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Previous Thread: >>127368763
I see forced 50 is still a thing, despite not really playing for a month
Since this is now core on the balanced ebola pope of lmao no buyback, what's the increased kill threshold of his invoke combined with aghanim scepter?
>aether lens is core on Necro
i don't know if it increases radius on Q but even if it did it would still be a bad item choice on a hero with unlimited regen who blink is already core on. and if you need magic resist for survival glimmer is a superior choice for everything
Who cares, just throw an ult when they are low
Glimmer cape/Aether lens and the other new support items are such a disgusting copy of how LoL does support items.
Then the jungling changes, memeback gold, insane amount of carries encouraged to be in every game... IF is straight up copying LoL, it's not coincidence. All the dumb rettitards and other associated dicksuckers just eat up everything this hack fraud adds to the game.
I play pretty much only squishy support and do really well. When I play Rubick I die 40 times a match. Why? I don't understand.
>Why do I lose games Anon?
1. 40% - Lack of sleep
2. 25% - Hungry
3. 10% - You are greedy to win that you forgot how to win properly
4. 5% - Your team suck
5. 20% - You suck
>or you don't play selfish jungle lifestealer and win games
Ludwig "zai" Wåhlberg is a Swedish Dota player from Skara, Sweden, who is currently a sub for Evil Geniuses, working on finishing high school. He last played the offlane role.
He's also an honorary American as far as I'm concerned.
>get reality rifted by CK
>surrounded on all sides by throbbing horsecock
>still manage to blink out in time
zai is my favorite player of all times
his stream has nice weird music, when he talks its usually something cynical and he plays godlike
its like he knows every hero completely, and he can offlane well with any hero
i liked that song he played with just a girl having an orgasm and moaning for like 5 minutes, good stuff f a m
Name a hero that fuccboi goggles aren't viable on.
Professional tip: You cannot.
The team without psg on it.
The problem is the damage and range boost are negligible, and those are the only reason you would buy that over something else. 8% is nothing and 100 range is almost joke worthy.
Radiant because they didn't pick druid who went MKB without anyone on the other team having evasion.
Also support lesh never works out
>not a single attorney hero
Defend THIS, dotards.
Fuck me, that picture is amazing.
if you got veil of discorded,youre dead on 80% i think.
rubick needs positioning you twat
have you all ever died against leavers?
I did, dont be me:
>shrapnel range might as well be global with it
>assassinate damage + DUDE RANGE LMAO
>protection against wizard nuking
>easiest manafix of his life
No, you can't.
Lion's been to hell and back and back to hell and back. So presumably he has an attorney, pretty good one too given that all Lion does is go round fingering people. I can only assume that they do indeed exist in dota and that we can only hope for one in the future.
midas is better than rushing blink now fuck off retards
>still buying blink on a map designed for slow fucks on anyone who isn't a STR based stun initiator LOLing @ (you)
Here are some more:
Wraith king? (albeit the manafix is still ok, the range on his stun doesnt really do shit. Is his ult increased? i think not)
and ember spirit
note, this is not because ember doesnt benefit from it, but because it is not cost efficent enough to be counted as viable.
Its pretty useless on troll. If you want regen and magic resistance you'd probably be better off with a hood, and the spell range only effects ranged axes.
Its also pointless on ursa.
trash, dragon lance is bad, you should also get an aquila for splitpushing (aquila with soulring keeps you away from base forever) and deso is better earlier than hex because its an early/mid game item plus you wont kill shit with a naked hex
>n o r m a l s k i l l
i am so excited for the shanghai compendium ! i cant wait to pay valve money to get a few of the new, well made, well play tested cosmetics !
That's a kickass set, nigga.
The only thing I'd change is give him the weedpipe with the custom smoke trail, easily 7/10 without it.
Fuck yourself, you're just mad that you're not the one making gorbillions in hatbux everyday
You spend all the farm on items that aren't good on Lina. Octarine Refresher Agha is actually way better than AC Hex Agha for killing Luna. Your team doesn't have a proper carry to manfight Luna, so you need to annihilate Luna before she gets to use Satanic.
>that one guy on the enemy team who doesn't read patch notes
>tfw played with 5k's
I'm just a little 4k please don't
>playing against 6k's in overthrow
>they pick broken shit like OD and doecunt
tested this ursa aether lens meme because I have nothing better to do
it doesn't affect fury swipes damage
le only constant is you faec
lost the game because the PL snatched aegis from me. twice.
actually paying my booster to get me out of low priority right now. being put in low priority now means racking up 10+ losses in order to complete 5 games. it just isn't possible with these players.
ember spirit is a fucking bullshit hero btw.
It could be, but Necro has no other skills that benefit.
Death Pulse doesn't have range in the first place.
His passives don't benefit.
And you want a Blink Dagger/Force Staff to cast the ulti anyhow if you are not in range to do so.
>8% is nothing
>In a game where Invoker has a 500 pure damage Nuke and Meteor
>range boost are negligible
>In a game where casting aoe stuns from range wins teamfights
>Where the extra Meteor and Coldsnap range literally wins teamfights
trying to survive the anticipated damage shitting output of sniper and ember
we actually would've won the agme but someone controlled void and chronod us out of nowhere and we got teamwiped by sniper. figures.
lelouch. but not for long. boosting to 4.5k soon
Well it's not that bad against heroes that have very high armor, especially now that Abyssal damage was nerfed. Not a particularly good item as a core item, but situationally worth it, especially in cases where you have to try and rat raxes over fights that you always end up losing thanks to game being 10-30 in the enemies favor. Not a common scenario, but sometimes you need to make moves like that.
Any GOOD players ITT? 5k+ (yeah yeah, d2g doesnt play dota)
Do you find that this game is worth getting good at? What does it do for you? Does it become a more rewarding game the harder it gets?
How to play and build le double mysterio man?
Not that guy, but not getting Agha on Venomancer is pretty damn stupid. The ulti damage was nerfed the last time he was touched, but it was buffed with Agha. Banana is a viable MMR climbing offlaner for example, because the ulti with Agha is really damn strong spell now that Huskar is a bad meme.
>Do you find that this game is worth getting good at?
No game is worth getting good at, but that's not the reason you play games.
>What does it do for you?
It's fun to play with friends once in a while.
>Does it become a more rewarding game the harder it gets?
What? I assume you mean the more you play or the better you get, and it does sort of.
giving my opinion anyway
games get MUCH better the higher your mmr gets both in the sense of fewer peruvians and also fewer people looking to ruin games. you will still have shitty games but more often than not even losses are legitimately fun. Not to mention the occasional game when you queue into a streamer and get to meme in front of 20k+ people
Honestly sometimes when I have like 60+ minute Very High Skill games I don't even care if we lose because I actually spent an hour playing with actual good players going back and fourth seeing who is better.
Only if you play with friends really. I played to 5.5K around 2 years ago, but haven't really felt like playing alone ever since then. It's still really fun to play with your buds, assuming they aren't fucking awful to the point that you are never challenged properly by anything else besides your team losing trilane to Riki. Might play to 6K now that fun offlaners like Clock are viable again. (Less Huskar, AM, Alchemist)
your clone only lasts 20 seconds and you want to go full 9/11 on their towers while it's only 20 minutes in. Radiance is mostly farming item in this case but when you have fucking two midas you are okay on farm.
>thrown into a 5.3k average game with two 6.2ks
>they pick 4 cores, jugg jungle, lone druid feeding a dual offlane
It doesn't get better, it never will get better
sure, shame the ""safe""lane morph fed like a shitfuck everytime I left and the lone druid did the same
600mmr below the average and I had the most game impact, broken shitty system
>Sneaking around as a Tree with quick Ahgs planting trees in enemy jungle
>Enemy about to farm a Quad stack
>Sneak in and plant a tree in the camp just before he comes to farm
>mfw pressing R
Treant is a pretty good hero if you can go Midas into Ahgs
What are some aggressive heroes in every sense of the word?
Does lots of bullying in lane, can force out teamfights and tower defenses whether the opponent wants to or not
I feel like playing this way is where I'm most comfortable
Venge is cute!
I'm going to marry Shendelzare!
Jakiro. liquid fire wins early game by harrassing the enemies in lane, and wins the mid game by taking all tier 1's early. then get eul's and start setting up ice path macropier combos. then get agh's aether lens because it is hilarious the range you get.
I am still extremely new to Dota which hero is the most like Kreig from borderlands 2.
I mean like in how they play.
I am still trying to find a main and most the heros I have played have while been allright to play have not really clicked and in borderlands I like going full rip and tear with krieg
>what's Lycan good for other than ratting
but that's literally the point of the hero
brown boots -> vlads -> necro 3 -> travels
constantly switch between lanes, when people are missing and you don't know which lane is safe just jungle and let wolves push a lane out
if you want to join fights build stuff like bkb/abyssal after that shit otherwise go standard rat items like AC/Deso
they also gave wolves a thing to slow attack speed so he can manfight carries better now
What is the correct Drow build and why is it
>That feel when you've been force to play unranked because you are trapped in forced 50 hell
Axe is pretty good in the trench games, since no one tps in to help if Axe starts to creep skip
you might even get to play against dual melee carry lanes if you're lucky
also maining is not a thing in dota you lolbabby, some people main a role but maining just a single/few heroes is just stupid, especially when you're just starting
leave maining to professional players who decide to main a role
Season 3 of Breaking Bad is kind of bad senpaitachi. Is season 4 any better?
Hey guys, bot coder dude here again.
After wasting the whole day, Techies bot has successfully learned how to lane. With a heatmap for player movements based on hero, time, and even MMR (all based on games where a Techies player was on the enemy team, to avoid skew towards rune spots), first blood is a near certainty for him now. Nowhere is safe.
He still has no fucking idea what to do after the laning phase, although he *can* determine when it is over or when to try and end it.
I'm also going to add demining countermeasures soon, since he likes the rune spots a bit too much.
but you're feeding like fuck in most of those games
it gets really frustrating to lose several games like this in a row:
im slark and my friend is playing zeus, other 3 guys were a three man stack
you can literally program it to tp to a lane place fb mines and never last hit, make specific spots for it to go with smoke etc and it'll win 50 percent of games
dont forgot to name it broxy bot
usually im not the one feeding early game. i get blown out later game, and usually were so fucking weak by the end, they fountain dive us 2 to 3 times as well.
But I do fuck up my own share of games as well. im only a shitter
i'm a total newbie and i'm really enjoying playing AM and PA, which other carries should i try?
i really like these two because they have great animations and farm really fast. i also like blinking all over the place
>Do you find that this game is worth getting good at?
Of course not.
Unless you aim to go pro the game is a complete waste of time. To get genuinelly good at it you need to spend thousands of hours at it but in matchmaking you will never get to play matches at a high level amongst equals.
This is why I stopped playing the game a year ago.
pa is pretty bad once your opponents know how to start buying silver edge, and later when they get good enough to be able to farm mkb reliably
am is a great choice
try spectre. shes super squishy until she's farmed but she has global presence + vision with her ult. her ult is amazing and is what makes spectre ridiculous lategame. she has a nice attack animation and will teach you how to just right click creeps and not die in lane pretty well
>stick wards down
>eat shit for your team in teamfights
This is amazing, im consistently the worst player on my team and it doesnt matter!
Whats Lion's (Demon Witch)
it seriously is. the matchmaking is COMPLETELY different.
when you've been muted and put in low priority well over a hundred times each, your account gets permanently modified in osme way. you are stupid if you don't think this is true. why WOULDN'T they do it?
Literally my shadow shaman game
> press q
> Hex pudge
>feed to LC
> doesn't matter SF is snowballing and game ends.
>getting muted and low prio on a regular basis
what a toxic piece of shit
yeah that can happen if he jumped straight from level 3 to level 5 due to some early kills and then leveled mystic snake with his 4th skill point
It reads the audio output from the game alongside scanning for visual cues while flipping across visible areas on the minimap. As a result of not reading from the game itself, it's undetectable.
>be solo off-lane BB
>against a TB and a CM
>suddenly, our Magnus comes top
>I try to help
>TB ults me, CM freezes me
>barely manage to get away
>fucking Magnus chases them to the inner tower and dies
>starts spamming pings on me and going "RETARD BB"
Ok for people that have tried out both modes. Which ranked mode is best for soloplay? Which one results in the best experience?
All Pick or Random Draft?
>tfw haven't played dota in 4 months
i'm scared to even touch it again
the rust is real, and i was never that good to begin with
They would all end up floating to the same MMR bracket then it would be a bunch of wasted accounts.
I still have to do 3 heroes after this in case the bot loses its first pick. The idea is to see how far a fully autonomous bot can go in ranked MM.
How many items can I get away building on Spectre before radiance?
Also I'm not a good farmer (I play AM and my BFs usually come somewhere inbetween 15 and 17 minutes), can I realistically play her well enough?
Support drama queens are the worst. They need to make sure that everybody knows what a great deed they are doing by supporting and then throwing a fit and refusing to buy wards or whatever.
>How many items can I get away building on Spectre before radiance?
Get enough to offer basic sustain and some stuff that increases your farm.
If you didn't get quelling as starting item it's good to get it early in lane.
Aquila is fine to get and so are Tranq boots if you're mostly gonna farm and maybe help out with your ult every now and then (you don't always need to jump to illusions).
Make them feed if they detect Spanish from a player on their team.
>tfw bought SF arcana
>instantly lost first game
not cool lads
If they get LPQ I have to play those games manually unless the bot gets super lucky with the pick phase.
They ping and use chatwheel. The bots aren't selfish, hoarding all the info to themselves.
This is easy enough to take out and modify though, since I grouped all the communication together.
manta, radiance, vanguard and octomeme
>tfw no Pugna arcana that makes you a cute loli who goes aroung sugging digs
>come to gank a lane
>"teammates" just stand there and not even attempt to help out, just stand there expecting me to 100-0 the opposition or maybe even didnt realize i'm there despite my pinging and chat announcements i'm coming over
>want to play jakiro
he has no hats and I have a crippling hat addiction
>The losing team position 5 can't buy everything that's needed for a game
How do people like this breathe?
Do they seriously not know what playing position 5 means or do they think they actually meed a forcestaff+urn every single fucking game? With passive gold generation its basically impossible to not be able to afford wards and smokes as position 5
>passive gold income increase
>gold spill for just being there
>cheaper support items
>support mains complain that they still don't have their dicks sucked enough
bad fucking meme
>have lost 11 games in a row
>last game legion goes 13-1
>tries to solo duel bristleback and/or dragon knight 3 times in a row
>completely throws game doing this
have honestly forgotten what it feels like just to win a game. not being given a fair chance.
Redditors are fucking retarded
>So chip in and get vision on the map/utility items.
or at least don't freak out when they keep giving up kills to gankers.
>Being the sole person on the 'losing' team responsible for: Courier, flying courier, vision wards, sentry wards, dusts, lane salves and smokes means no reasonably paced force staff ~
I am probably being baited
> arcane boots
> buying bad soul ring
>What is most overrated item in the game?
It's only good on like 15 heroes tops yet everyone keeps fucking buying it for every single hero they play.
Mfw I got complacent while hitting the throne with my 2 rapier ember, get first hit bashed by their pa and double critted, lose the rapiers and the game one minute later at 75 mins for a nice juicy -25 to round me down to -100 for the day
>How do people like this breathe?
>Do they seriously not know what playing position 5 means or do they think they actually meed a forcestaff+urn every single fucking game? With passive gold generation its basically impossible to not be able to afford wards and smokes as position 5
Here's the thing.
Sometimes the support is solo.
Sometimes the player isn't playing a hero that functions well as a position 5.
Sometimes finishing an item will be more helpful to the team than buying wards off cd (a Rhasta finishing his brown boots will be more useful during ganks than if he bought some wards the other support could've gotten this time).
>nerf lone druid by making his bear worth 300 gold
>nerf pl illus because old pl was op as fuck
>LE WE REPEAT THE SAME MISTAKE EVERYTIME BUT DONT ADD NEW HEROES TO PRO DOTA
Why is Valve so shit at balancing and why do they always do the same mistake? Just give the fucking illu bounty.
>Was playing a bane just a moment before this post, sure it may not have been my best performance on that hero, but I was doing well, got my arcanes, urn, wand pretty early. Anyways team had some bad time and we lost some teamfights, shit looked dire, I managed to buy a glimmer cape now shit started to hit the fan I was constantly flamed for not buying the blink dagger, even tho I used my glimmer to save teammates jesus christ I got so tilted I had to mute them, almost started to feed if it weren't for our TA that saved the game.
>TL:DR I agree with op, don't expect us to be 6 slotted by 20 minutes when we give up all farm to our carries, buy wards, sentries, couriers, roam, gank etc.
POSITION 5 AMIRITE GUISSE?
If you pick position 5 and finish arcanes before flying courier you deserve to be sub 2k
>>picks a bad hero for the situation
You typically pick supports first. It's the teams fault if they follow up a position 4 support pick by picking 4 cores or another position 3-4 hero as a support.
>Just give the fucking illu bounty.
IT'S NOT AN ILLUSION YOU FUCKING RETARD
the jungling changes havent actually made jungling any better than it was before. they've only really made people start jungling bloodseeker and lc (which are both still just as bad in the jungle)
>decent nerfs that make the hero no longer impossible to escape or dodge even when played by a complete retard
>damage clips and duration nerfs
>more damage nerfs
>more damage nerfs
>more ability duration and effects nerfs
>Fixed Geomagnetic Grip Geomagnetic Grip being able to pull you out of Duel, Black Hole
what do you mean FIXED?
>complete removal of ability functionality and strapping it to shitty aghanim gimmick
>completely fuck up every single one of his voice clips and responses that i loved so much
fuck this, im done
How do I build Venge?
Arcane, Medallion/Force, Aether, (Solar,) Aghs?
Pic related is including the time he was un fucking touchable
he was bullshit, now hes weak shit
>using the statistics which are fucked due to massive amounts of retards playing him
Fuck, man, ive taken each and every nerf up the ass, and i still did good, but it feels like its half the hero i played after they removed the grip "get-your-retard-teammate-out-of-jail-free" and shitty "reborn" shat all over his voice.
Gimme a dank steamavatar my old one has gotten boring.
THIS GUY IS SO FUCKING SHIT IM SO GOD DMAN MAD
max purifying flames by 7, no exceptions
lvl 1 skillpoint either into quas, fortunes end, for a pseudostun and easy first blood on tards, or wex, fates edict, to make enemy not get lasthits while getting rightclicked like a bitch with your balanced 1.4 bat
play him mid
>Qop gets Aghs as first item after treads
What are some other telltale signs of a lost match /d2g/?
>What are some other telltale signs of a lost match /d2g/?
This one, Jamie
>4th pick LC that marks jungle
>play some relaxing smurf while my booster gets me out of low priority
>get this jugg memer from here
>thinks he's good but is normal skill
save it for a game where you didnt get carried and outdamaged :(
>AGDQ went down the shitter when a gurl gamer got to eat an HOUR AND TWENTY MINUTES longplaying 4-player co-op L4D2 on easy
Fuck this, I'd rather play a game of Dota.
0 decides what hero/build I use for this next game.
>all those terrible item builds on everyone but ursa
my item build wrecked shop son
reminder that aghs luna is EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY OVERPOWERED AND FREE MMR
>What are some other telltale signs of a lost match /d2g/?
When my allies start telling me what to pick and what to do when I have not only have 200 more MMR than them but also 1000 more matches played.
Jugger build is ok, im not sur eabout mkb tho, i guess just for the raw dmg but still
Es build is fine
Cm build is fine
Tiny build is fine
Dont like vlads on ursa or sny personally
Lol at zeus and lc
>teammate contests your lasthits
>he blantantly misses them WHILE fucking up yours
i want league refugees to go
Reminder that as of 223 hours ago we are living in the Pudge Meta
>i know better than T1 teams
>lol look at this epic cherrypick vs shitter where i buy items that don't even benefit me like aether
ES built Aghs over Veil (enemy had no illus or a bunch of units) and got a retarded Aether.
Getting Aether, Blink and Force is redundant. She should've cut 1 of those items and worked on a more useful item like a Solar or something bigger.
Tiny getting blink when he has wisp is retarded. The entire point of wisp is that you don't need the blink. He also has no fucking armor.
On Ursa both items are situationally good, in this match they were acceptable pickups because of the enemy picks and items.
>Tiny getting blink when he has wisp is retarded
The wisp is there for +as, blink is always good on Tiny. Many pro players still pick up a blink with an io on their team
The tiny's biggest problem was that he didn't farm for shit.
What is the dota equivalent of TF2s Vagineer?
>The entire point of wisp is that you don't need the blink
Uhh no, the entire point of wisp is to make you more tanky and give you as, blink is always good because wisp theter range is fucking retarded that you can jump in as tiny, blow someone up with ava toss combo and get wisp on you to smack shit around
The veil on es is situational as well as aghs, i dont know why he built lens tho, i never even tried that item. Getting both force and blink is rly good on es, i almost always build them and aghs is always good no matter if there are illus or not
I have 1000 more matches than them, 200 more mmr and yet I should listen to their advice when they tell me to pick jungle Naix vs the enemy Slardar (since "slardar is a str hero") when we had 1 support and I had last pick.
Or how about the time when they got mad at me for maxing Glimpse first and not Thunder strike to "harass" with in lane?
>pudge survived the reddit passive-aggressive kneejerk balance patch untouched
>so valve / icefrog (if he's still around) think him perfectly balanced
i've been waiting years for this meta
this meta where teams other than na`vi pick pudge
>Tiny getting blink when he has wisp is retarded. The entire point of wisp is that you don't need the blink. He also has no fucking armor.
why are retards always so vocal and stubborn with their opinions? you can ARGUe that you can skip the blink on tiny with wisp, but blink on tiny is such a huge increase in power on him at any stage for fighting, farming, splitpushing, basically everything, so why wouldnt you get it?
wisps main function is mana, relocate and AS/dmgresistance in THAT order in the early game, and in mid/late its a tossup between relocate and AS/dmgresistance
Reminder to sit up straight
Best looking Beastmaster right here.
Only fags wouldn't agree.
I've been thinking.
Why not just pentalane mid and push t3 at 5:00?
because they see your dumb push draft and get 1 hero like kotl which delays your push and you lose because they're 10x as farmed at 15 minutes gg no re
alright legit fucking question.
what do you ACTUALLY do against
1) late game furion when he has all the meme items
2) late game pudge when he has all the meme items
first is literally you wanna push too bad thats not gonna happen
second is literally let me just hook into the blue oh that didnt work guess ill try again in a second ok now it worked
>heroes aren't strong enough to do that at level 1
what if you get a crystal maiden to ferry an axe who builds 2 stout shields a hard camp creep kill, so you have a level 2 axe + other strong low level heros and gank their mid while they're blocking creeps
easy 5 man sub minute 1 first blood then go back to laning, gg no re
reminder that JUNGLE LC is your way out of the trench
>The entire point of blink on tiny is to get it as early as possible while you can still instantly blow people up
Yes but that isn't needed with wisp since you gank with relocate. I say again, his problem was not fucking mobility that match. He fucking died like shit.
Ok then trashcan.
Without Ursa he would've had a borderline negative armor rating vs a high physical dmg lineup and you're telling me his build was fine?
>pick position 17 supportcuckhero
>expect to get carried by people like piv related that cant break 400 gpm with freefarm
>complain that you lost but you bought wards
this is best meme of all time t b h
If you werent shit in the first place you would pick core yourself and get farm easily because scrubshits literally cannot shit on weak lanes.
But yeah, that requires you to get goos and not being the person with 9 last hits in 10 minutes with free farm.
>hurr but pubs dont buy wards in my bracket
implying you even look at minimap when you are struggling to breathe and last hit simultaneously.
>get 4stack of germans
>I'm only person on team with positive score
>they say to report me for not executing flawlessly in fights where 2 of them ran away with full hp and mana
>sell items and intentional feed
every time. why don't people learn?
nope it was 5 on 5 teamfights
sniper with dragon lance literally runs away with 100hp/mana without shooting someone once or shrapneling
>we lose fight due to global silence and wd ult
>"your fault tusk"
how come nobody likes him? I dont see him in tournaments.
no one ever goes around in these threads saying it's never your team's fault
it's just that you can't control how good or bad your teammates is so if you actually care about winning instead of bitching on 4chan you work on your own play instead of getting angry at your teammates
its just a tired narrative from a group of people who don't have their own thoughts and just repeat whatever they know
you know damn well it isnt always your fault so dont bother with the negashit here
Laning a melee hero is hard.
Laning a melee hero without a escape, who is squishy, and has subpar base damage is even harder.
Basically you gotta stay ranged form the entire laning stage, use melee form to reduce damage and trade hits if they get in melee range.
His skill cap increased wastly, and he is hard to play.
so this...is the power...of romania
dude sitting there steady biking to power his computer probably
yes i paid to get out of low priority no it doesn't even bother me. 8.50 usd to not win 5 low priority games is literally the best value that has ever existed on the planet earth
He is extreemely weak to magic in a heavy nuking meta so far. Could change further down the line though.
>1) late game furion when he has all the meme items
kill him or have two people who can push out lanes without feeding, then push out the third lane to base
cant do that?
you've lost m8
>2) late game pudge when he has all the meme items
stop feeding him you fuck
have blink, force and stun for when he hooks someone so they can live, and have bkb on your carries so they can pop it and fight pudge/his team after being hooked
can't do that?
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If you have a easy time laning, due hitting for +20 damage at level 1, and you get a stout shield, its easy.
When you don't get that, you have trouble lasthitting, you have to actually lane while contested.
Thats basically the change.
He used to be able to leverage his base damage in melee form, lasthit when safe, and win lane without a lot of effort.
Now you have to really try. He is still rather good, because 1 point in Fervor is amazing for trading, but it requires a lot of effort and there is large gains on switching between ranged and melee form between attacks for movespeed and armor.
I actually watched this game, in addition to getting all the leaver gold he was carried by BH who set up a ton of kills early game skyrocketing his gpm but then PSG renounced him in twitch chat claiming the game was all him.
>Having a sniper on the team that doesn't attack move
>And always ulties 20-30HP over lethal range, due forgetting about magic resistance