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>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://store.steampowered.com/news/19848/
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://d2armory.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://yasp.co
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
http://www.gosugamers.net/
http://www.liquiddota.com/
livestreamer GUI: https://github.com/bastimeyer/livestreamer-twitch-gui

>BETTING
Cosmetic items: http://dota2lounge.com/

Previous Thread: >>127368763
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2 hard carries and 3 initiators is the only proper way to draft a team.

bkb is actually such a bad item.
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I see forced 50 is still a thing, despite not really playing for a month
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ICE
FRAUD
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Since this is now core on the balanced ebola pope of lmao no buyback, what's the increased kill threshold of his invoke combined with aghanim scepter?
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>get carried
>feed
>get carried
>abandon
>feed
>do OK
>do OK
>do OK
>feed
>feed
>feed

>3/11 games in which you even seem to have played slightly optimally
>complains about 50% winrate
???
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>>127386715

>aether lens is core on Necro

wut
i don't know if it increases radius on Q but even if it did it would still be a bad item choice on a hero with unlimited regen who blink is already core on. and if you need magic resist for survival glimmer is a superior choice for everything
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>>127386715
Who cares, just throw an ult when they are low
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>>127386715

Glimmer cape/Aether lens and the other new support items are such a disgusting copy of how LoL does support items.

Then the jungling changes, memeback gold, insane amount of carries encouraged to be in every game... IF is straight up copying LoL, it's not coincidence. All the dumb rettitards and other associated dicksuckers just eat up everything this hack fraud adds to the game.
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I play pretty much only squishy support and do really well. When I play Rubick I die 40 times a match. Why? I don't understand.
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>>127399948
maybe IF is making Guinsoup and Penisdragon feel what he did to doter
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>Why do I lose games Anon?
1. 40% - Lack of sleep
2. 25% - Hungry
3. 10% - You are greedy to win that you forgot how to win properly
4. 5% - Your team suck
5. 20% - You suck

>or you don't play selfish jungle lifestealer and win games
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im still afraid to ranked matchmaking
help
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>>127386715
It's not really worth getting a Lens just to increase the cast range of Sycthe, it literally does nothing else for him.
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>>127406045
>Normal Skill
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remember guys

anything can happen in dota
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dead thread
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>>127386715
Necro is the only hero that aether lens is bad on.
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>>127388106
you sure showed him
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mmr is just a number
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Ludwig "zai" Wåhlberg is a Swedish Dota player from Skara, Sweden, who is currently a sub for Evil Geniuses, working on finishing high school. He last played the offlane role.
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>>127412618
He's also an honorary American as far as I'm concerned.
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>get reality rifted by CK
>surrounded on all sides by throbbing horsecock
>still manage to blink out in time
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>>127411901
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>>127412618

God bless
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>>127412618
zai is my favorite player of all times
his stream has nice weird music, when he talks its usually something cynical and he plays godlike
its like he knows every hero completely, and he can offlane well with any hero
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>>127412791

God bless
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>>127412894
literally fucking viable neck urself
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>>127413074
>deephouse and minimal techno
>weird
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Who's the best support ??
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>>127413074

i liked that song he played with just a girl having an orgasm and moaning for like 5 minutes, good stuff f a m
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Name a hero that fuccboi goggles aren't viable on.
Professional tip: You cannot.
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*blinks in*
*misses meld strike*
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>there's 90k people watching someone speedrun a strategy game
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Guess who won.
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i did it boys

played my first game again after almost a full year

everything is hard now
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>>127413562
Stop that, anon.
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>>127413719
The team without psg on it.
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>>127413479
The problem is the damage and range boost are negligible, and those are the only reason you would buy that over something else. 8% is nothing and 100 range is almost joke worthy.
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>>127413719
Radiant because they didn't pick druid who went MKB without anyone on the other team having evasion.
Also support lesh never works out
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>>127413886
Good thing its double that hey?
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>>127413719
balance knight
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>tfw ur bf is THE literal masterdrafter

i wanna be slotherina
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>>127414050
only decided to stick with him because he made a million
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>not a single attorney hero
Defend THIS, dotards.
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>>127385227
Fuck me, that picture is amazing.

>>127386715
if you got veil of discorded,youre dead on 80% i think.

>>127400379
rubick needs positioning you twat


have you all ever died against leavers?
I did, dont be me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXAPIDf3wNY
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>low priority
>beastmaster doesn't level his summons once
>we're against a bunch of auto attack heroes

please kill me. just kill me.
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>>127414165
Omni?
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>>127413479
i can
Sniper
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>>127414276
>shrapnel range might as well be global with it
>assassinate damage + DUDE RANGE LMAO
>protection against wizard nuking
>easiest manafix of his life
No, you can't.
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>>127414165
Lion's been to hell and back and back to hell and back. So presumably he has an attorney, pretty good one too given that all Lion does is go round fingering people. I can only assume that they do indeed exist in dota and that we can only hope for one in the future.
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>>127413956
Well shit, but still most spells really aren't bleeding for 200 extra range, especially when you compare with another item that effectively adds up to 1200 range.
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>rushing blink
midas is better than rushing blink now fuck off retards
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Rate this Clinkz theoryshitter build
>treads-soul ring > dragon lance > hex > deso > bkb > crit/mkb
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>>127414361
>2.3k for nodamage on a dps hero
stop
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>>127414410
Kek't.
>>127414458
>still buying blink on a map designed for slow fucks on anyone who isn't a STR based stun initiator LOLing @ (you)
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>>127414482
theorycrafting more than 3 items is pointless it depends on the game
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Wake me up
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>>127414361
>127414361

Here are some more:

Slardar?
Wraith king? (albeit the manafix is still ok, the range on his stun doesnt really do shit. Is his ult increased? i think not)
Ursa. Definatly.
and ember spirit
note, this is not because ember doesnt benefit from it, but because it is not cost efficent enough to be counted as viable.
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>>127413479
Its pretty useless on troll. If you want regen and magic resistance you'd probably be better off with a hood, and the spell range only effects ranged axes.

Its also pointless on ursa.
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>>127414482
trash, dragon lance is bad, you should also get an aquila for splitpushing (aquila with soulring keeps you away from base forever) and deso is better earlier than hex because its an early/mid game item plus you wont kill shit with a naked hex
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>>127414638
>n o r m a l s k i l l
>o
>r
>m
>a
>l
>s
>k
>i
>l
>l
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>>127414482
>>127414696
You should only get Dragon Lance if you're getting BKB and Butterfly immediately afterwards.
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>>127413479
Tinker.
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i am so excited for the shanghai compendium ! i cant wait to pay valve money to get a few of the new, well made, well play tested cosmetics !
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>>127414165
how can I defend it without an attorney hero?
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>>127414913
That's a kickass set, nigga.
The only thing I'd change is give him the weedpipe with the custom smoke trail, easily 7/10 without it.
Fuck yourself, you're just mad that you're not the one making gorbillions in hatbux everyday
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>>127415005
You can of course represent yourself.
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>random shapes all across my screen whenever someone uses mic

why does this still happen
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>>127414169

fucking leavers though
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>>127415027
Ty
i dont really like the pipe too big
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>>127414681
But ursa gets +8% fury swipe damage
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>>127413479
Spectre.
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>>127415305
>implyimg
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>>127415305
fury swipes is physical damage senpai
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>>127415454
>Increased spell damage
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>ask booster how much it is to get out of 5 low prio games
>7.50 euro

best deal in the history of the entire earth pretty much.
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>>127415454
>>127415534
Actually it's probably still not worth it though
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>>127415534
can you just go away
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>>127415678
With two aether lenses it is already +16% damage increase
w00w... in some boss fight mods might be even worth it
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>>127415813
might as well just build a basher at that point
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>>127415935
>>127415813
>>127415454
>>127415534
>>127415305
Since Swipes are physical, you can just get armor reduction to deal more than 8%. You only have 6 slots to spend.
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http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2053178428

What went wrong?
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>>127415813
>4.6k for basically nothing
theorycrafting times' over kid go to bed
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>>127416240
You spend all the farm on items that aren't good on Lina. Octarine Refresher Agha is actually way better than AC Hex Agha for killing Luna. Your team doesn't have a proper carry to manfight Luna, so you need to annihilate Luna before she gets to use Satanic.
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what if

Aether Lens LINA?
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>>127416240
Luna was riding a giant fucking rat and only two of your teamamtes had boots of travel

travel might be my favorite item btw
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>>127416529
only with aghs and if you are getting 3 of those
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are we all dead or just watching AGDQ?
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>that one guy on the enemy team who doesn't read patch notes
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new meme: aether lense supp chaos knight
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>tfw played with 5k's

I'm just a little 4k please don't
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>>127414215
Had that happen to me once in a normal game. We were playing against techies
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>>127417332
>playing against 6k's in overthrow
>they pick broken shit like OD and doecunt
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>>127417115
I'm not seeing anything unviable due to mechanics
The battlefuries are dumb seeing as none of your team would group together though
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>>127417115
Bf riki isnt that good anymore, better off buying diffusal and deaduli
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>helped a friend get out of low priority
>I end up wishing we were back in it because our teammates are somehow more horrible than the tards in low priority
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>>127417657
>>127417801
??
exactly
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>>127417801
>nobody buying maelstrom
if you only knew how much dps it adds in tott
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tested this ursa aether lens meme because I have nothing better to do

it doesn't affect fury swipes damage
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>>127416610
Is Manta really that good on rat Luna compared to S&Y?
Her passive only give raw damage, range illusion get more reduction in base damage, not to mention TD.
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d2g I know you guys are 5k pubstar, I wanna ask what items should I buy before radiance on Spectre? PT+Urn+PMS? PT+Vanguard? No meme please
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i just tried out new huskar and holy shit, is he in the dumpster
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>>127418137
I love me a classic tabs gag.
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>>127416219
>desolator on ursa
0k speaks
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>>127418137
Yea I figured that out in d2wiki :^)
thank you for responding
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>>127418268
Phase and urn.
seen some people go for aquila after urn or just skipping urn for it if someone in your team already has an urn.
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>>127418137

>not my wifes son
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>>127418252
nah
only if the enemy team has some kind of debuff to fuck with you
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>>127418137
>World News
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dead
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le only constant is you faec

lost the game because the PL snatched aegis from me. twice.

actually paying my booster to get me out of low priority right now. being put in low priority now means racking up 10+ losses in order to complete 5 games. it just isn't possible with these players.

ember spirit is a fucking bullshit hero btw.
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What went wrong?
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>>127386715
It could be, but Necro has no other skills that benefit.
Death Pulse doesn't have range in the first place.
His passives don't benefit.
And you want a Blink Dagger/Force Staff to cast the ulti anyhow if you are not in range to do so.

>>127413886
>8% is nothing
>In a game where Invoker has a 500 pure damage Nuke and Meteor

>range boost are negligible
>In a game where casting aoe stuns from range wins teamfights
>Where the extra Meteor and Coldsnap range literally wins teamfights
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>>127419424
> double skadi
it is like you don't even want to deal damage
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>>127419424
Who has higher mmr psg or lelouch?
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>Tusk was nerfed
;)
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>>127418462
I am not advocating Deso on Ursa. I am saying it's better than Lens for what it does. Typical 4K trashcan reading comprehension.
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okay guys

i have like 200 hours in this game so i decided to spam juggernaut to try and get good

nothing but losses so far

any tips for the tilted scrub? maybe a hero change?
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>>127419693
I know I'm shit but I always like picking up deso after the game is pretty much won to completely destroy towers.
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why do russian streamer listen almost exclusively to english music?
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>>127419524
trying to survive the anticipated damage shitting output of sniper and ember

we actually would've won the agme but someone controlled void and chronod us out of nowhere and we got teamwiped by sniper. figures.

>>127419597
lelouch. but not for long. boosting to 4.5k soon
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>>127419790
why do white streamers listen to almost exclusively nigger music?
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>>127416240
Ds has no blink
Invo still has urn
Bananamancer has orchid for some reason
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>>127419785
Well it's not that bad against heroes that have very high armor, especially now that Abyssal damage was nerfed. Not a particularly good item as a core item, but situationally worth it, especially in cases where you have to try and rat raxes over fights that you always end up losing thanks to game being 10-30 in the enemies favor. Not a common scenario, but sometimes you need to make moves like that.
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>>127420149
wrong team
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>>127419790
American music is popular globally.
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Any GOOD players ITT? 5k+ (yeah yeah, d2g doesnt play dota)

Do you find that this game is worth getting good at? What does it do for you? Does it become a more rewarding game the harder it gets?
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/g/139752/4435b97578/
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>>127419693
minus armor effect doesnt work on ursa because fury swipes is an untoggleable orb
you fuckface
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How to play and build le double mysterio man?
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>>127420205
Doesnt matter
Bara went semi carry
Bristle has maelstorm for some reason instead of getting pipe
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>>127420205
Not that guy, but not getting Agha on Venomancer is pretty damn stupid. The ulti damage was nerfed the last time he was touched, but it was buffed with Agha. Banana is a viable MMR climbing offlaner for example, because the ulti with Agha is really damn strong spell now that Huskar is a bad meme.
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Daily reminder that Jungle is viable now
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>>127420296
midas into necro 3 travels octarine manta
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>>127420254
>Do you find that this game is worth getting good at?
No game is worth getting good at, but that's not the reason you play games.

>What does it do for you?
It's fun to play with friends once in a while.

>Does it become a more rewarding game the harder it gets?
What? I assume you mean the more you play or the better you get, and it does sort of.
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>>127420295
Swipes has not been an orb for over a year, soon 2 years. Naturally you with your ladder anxiety that doesn't even play the game doesn't know of this. :^)
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>>127420254
>5k+
giving my opinion anyway

games get MUCH better the higher your mmr gets both in the sense of fewer peruvians and also fewer people looking to ruin games. you will still have shitty games but more often than not even losses are legitimately fun. Not to mention the occasional game when you queue into a streamer and get to meme in front of 20k+ people
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>>127420406
Reminder it always was.
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>>127420428
no point going radiance?
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>>127420559
ill consider your input anyway 4.7k friend
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>>127420559
Honestly sometimes when I have like 60+ minute Very High Skill games I don't even care if we lose because I actually spent an hour playing with actual good players going back and fourth seeing who is better.
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>>127420254
Only if you play with friends really. I played to 5.5K around 2 years ago, but haven't really felt like playing alone ever since then. It's still really fun to play with your buds, assuming they aren't fucking awful to the point that you are never challenged properly by anything else besides your team losing trilane to Riki. Might play to 6K now that fun offlaners like Clock are viable again. (Less Huskar, AM, Alchemist)
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>>127420739
your clone only lasts 20 seconds and you want to go full 9/11 on their towers while it's only 20 minutes in. Radiance is mostly farming item in this case but when you have fucking two midas you are okay on farm.
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le sigh
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When ya boy on that Timber...
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>4.7k mmr
>thrown into a 5.3k average game with two 6.2ks
>they pick 4 cores, jugg jungle, lone druid feeding a dual offlane

It doesn't get better, it never will get better
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rime casting chink qualis senpai
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>>127420901
>he doesn't jungle jugg

a TRUE memer will take the loss if it means memeing a glorious meme
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>>127420830
lelouch why won't you add me so we could meme together
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>>127420987
sure, shame the ""safe""lane morph fed like a shitfuck everytime I left and the lone druid did the same

600mmr below the average and I had the most game impact, broken shitty system
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>>127420830
>less cs than pa without bfury
>getting carried by pa
>being proud of beating tinker and elder titan, aka the worst heroes in the game
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>>127420704
>nerf on wildkin
sad
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>>127419790
because the West is the best son
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>>127421132
PSG pls.

>>127421247
>farming on a hero who dominates early to 40 minute mark.
Spot the retard.
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>Sneaking around as a Tree with quick Ahgs planting trees in enemy jungle
>Enemy about to farm a Quad stack
>Sneak in and plant a tree in the camp just before he comes to farm
>mfw pressing R

Treant is a pretty good hero if you can go Midas into Ahgs
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What are some aggressive heroes in every sense of the word?

Does lots of bullying in lane, can force out teamfights and tower defenses whether the opponent wants to or not

I feel like playing this way is where I'm most comfortable
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>>127421358
i even did good last time i played timber! i don't even play him!

psg and lelouch, a story of unrequited maymays
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Venge is cute!
I'm going to marry Shendelzare!
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>>127416494
I thought if I got refresher I would be fucked after luna aegis'd.
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>>127421529
centaur
>towers killing themselves because of return
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what am i suppose to do against people who buy bkb and force staff as Earth shaker?
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>>127421764
i already play lots of centaur. great hero
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>>127421529
beastmaster, enigma, leshrac, death prophet
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>>127421529

DP, Lycan, Luna, Skywrath, Venge
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>>127419807
>Building HP against primarily physical damage
>no AC
>no Butterfly
>thinking the mana from the Skadis will provide more EHP than armour

Ya blew it.
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>>127421529
Jakiro. liquid fire wins early game by harrassing the enemies in lane, and wins the mid game by taking all tier 1's early. then get eul's and start setting up ice path macropier combos. then get agh's aether lens because it is hilarious the range you get.
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>>127421634
Ohayou! :3
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>>127421634
and why would she settle with a loser like you?
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>>127421913
Lesh? He any good mid this patch? Arcane rune is a thing now I guess

>>127422096
I might try Lycan. What's he good for other than ratting and deleting supports
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>>127422147
>posting badCelestia
baka desu familia
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I am still extremely new to Dota which hero is the most like Kreig from borderlands 2.
I mean like in how they play.
I am still trying to find a main and most the heros I have played have while been allright to play have not really clicked and in borderlands I like going full rip and tear with krieg
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>>127421529
>no one mentioning spirit breaker
LITERALLY shitfuck kids from across the map
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How do I get out of the shadow pool? Every single game I play has someone leaving in it or just selling all their items and giving up.
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>>127422306

>what's Lycan good for other than ratting

but that's literally the point of the hero
brown boots -> vlads -> necro 3 -> travels
constantly switch between lanes, when people are missing and you don't know which lane is safe just jungle and let wolves push a lane out

if you want to join fights build stuff like bkb/abyssal after that shit otherwise go standard rat items like AC/Deso

they also gave wolves a thing to slow attack speed so he can manfight carries better now
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>>127414050
>>127414153
which one is pepedoos gf?

is it the bluehaired one or the blonde gurl
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What is the correct Drow build and why is it blink mom?
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>That feel when you've been force to play unranked because you are trapped in forced 50 hell
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>>127422534
>not getting bkb just so you can always wolf/tp out
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>>127422749

if you need bkb just to hit towers than it wasn't a good game to pick Lycan or any rat hero for that matter
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>>127422306
He's still pretty good. His nerfs are overblown.
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@127422451
Axe is pretty good in the trench games, since no one tps in to help if Axe starts to creep skip
you might even get to play against dual melee carry lanes if you're lucky

also maining is not a thing in dota you lolbabby, some people main a role but maining just a single/few heroes is just stupid, especially when you're just starting

leave maining to professional players who decide to main a role
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I dont want to play any more.
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>>127422830
Don't like this @ meme.
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>>127422451
is this a meme ?
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I need to go full 9/11 tard on it all.
I want to 1v9 while blasting naasheds and doing triple rax 20m in.

What hero? Still le wolf man? Or double triple necroman is best?
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Why is zeus so ez?
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>>127423036
>push r
>receive gold

literally

free midas
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>>127423025
andy mage will always the answer
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Season 3 of Breaking Bad is kind of bad senpaitachi. Is season 4 any better?
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>>127422957
>normal lobby
>normal/high skill

yeah this game isn't for you
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>>127423119
>Andy the magician
>20m in rax
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>>127422985
better than adelaide autism or that abaddon carry retard
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What went wrong?
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2053553240
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>>127423132
>getting better at the game in normal is a crime
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>>127423123
season 3 ended with gale being murdered right?

I can't tell you if season 4 is better, I liked the entirety of breaking bad. I just wish there was more of it.
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>>127423204
>http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2053553240
invoker sucks
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http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/c/c7/Undying_lasthit_02.mp3
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is support lesh viable
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Hey guys, bot coder dude here again.

After wasting the whole day, Techies bot has successfully learned how to lane. With a heatmap for player movements based on hero, time, and even MMR (all based on games where a Techies player was on the enemy team, to avoid skew towards rune spots), first blood is a near certainty for him now. Nowhere is safe.

He still has no fucking idea what to do after the laning phase, although he *can* determine when it is over or when to try and end it.

I'm also going to add demining countermeasures soon, since he likes the rune spots a bit too much.
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>>127422957
but you're feeding like fuck in most of those games
it gets really frustrating to lose several games like this in a row:

im slark and my friend is playing zeus, other 3 guys were a three man stack
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>>127423339
you can literally program it to tp to a lane place fb mines and never last hit, make specific spots for it to go with smoke etc and it'll win 50 percent of games

dont forgot to name it broxy bot
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>>127423339
>Unleashing satanic bomberbots
You're a total MADMAN

What language and how do you make it interact wtih doturd?
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>>127423339
make him get travels after aghs and push lanes like a mad cunt

thats what I did every techies gae and it worked excellently
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>>127423361
>losing to a 4 core lineup when you have memefight heroes like chen and slardar
nigga...
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>>127423361
usually im not the one feeding early game. i get blown out later game, and usually were so fucking weak by the end, they fountain dive us 2 to 3 times as well.

But I do fuck up my own share of games as well. im only a shitter
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i'm a total newbie and i'm really enjoying playing AM and PA, which other carries should i try?

i really like these two because they have great animations and farm really fast. i also like blinking all over the place
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I need to breed Traxex
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>>127423579
try lancer though he is pretty out of meta at the moment
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>>127420254
>Do you find that this game is worth getting good at?

Of course not.
Unless you aim to go pro the game is a complete waste of time. To get genuinelly good at it you need to spend thousands of hours at it but in matchmaking you will never get to play matches at a high level amongst equals.

This is why I stopped playing the game a year ago.
>>
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2051691762

take a look at medusa's build

how?
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>>127423579
pa is pretty bad once your opponents know how to start buying silver edge, and later when they get good enough to be able to farm mkb reliably

am is a great choice

try spectre. shes super squishy until she's farmed but she has global presence + vision with her ult. her ult is amazing and is what makes spectre ridiculous lategame. she has a nice attack animation and will teach you how to just right click creeps and not die in lane pretty well
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>play support
>bully offlaner
>stick wards down
>eat shit for your team in teamfights
>???
>free mmr!

This is amazing, im consistently the worst player on my team and it doesnt matter!
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>>127424027
epic
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>>127424027
yeah support is my favorite way to play dota honestly
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Whats Lion's (Demon Witch)
favorite animeal??

...Impala
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>play on my smurf
>get completely and totally different type of matchmaking and players, everyone talks every game

wow. my psg account really is permanently modified in some way
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>>127423339
madman

i hope you fuck matchmaking shit up

togheter we can beat the system to death
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>>127424153
its seriously not
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>>127423893
that guy has been winning a lot of games with radiance/manta/vanguard void
what. the. fuck.
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>>127424247
it seriously is. the matchmaking is COMPLETELY different.

when you've been muted and put in low priority well over a hundred times each, your account gets permanently modified in osme way. you are stupid if you don't think this is true. why WOULDN'T they do it?
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Is Shadow Fiend still OP mid?
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>>127424267
I meant his skill build

unless it's an error, he skilled Mystic Snake to level 3 at level 4
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>>127424027
Literally my shadow shaman game

>Shackle offlane
> press q
> Hex pudge
>feed to LC
> doesn't matter SF is snowballing and game ends.
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2053414032
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@127424296
>getting muted and low prio on a regular basis
what a toxic piece of shit

>>127424367
yeah that can happen if he jumped straight from level 3 to level 5 due to some early kills and then leveled mystic snake with his 4th skill point
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>>127424367
Dotbuff gets fucked once a hero levels several levels without upgrading a skill.
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>>127424512
ah

I didn't really consider that. It was just weird, since I would LOVE to be able to skill Mystic Snake to level 3 that early.
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>>127423456
It reads the audio output from the game alongside scanning for visual cues while flipping across visible areas on the minimap. As a result of not reading from the game itself, it's undetectable.
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When does the forced 50 kick in?
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>have 20 ping
>feels like i have 200

what the fuck is wrong with this game
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>>127423398
I already named it ixmike bot.
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Fill in the blanks.

>How to fix Team Secret:
>Kick ______ and replace him with ______
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>>127424671
get a bunch of virtual machines and flood the game with techies suiciders
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>be solo off-lane BB
>against a TB and a CM
>suddenly, our Magnus comes top
>tower dives
>I try to help
>TB ults me, CM freezes me
>barely manage to get away
>fucking Magnus chases them to the inner tower and dies
>starts spamming pings on me and going "RETARD BB"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY75MWJIC7U
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Ok for people that have tried out both modes. Which ranked mode is best for soloplay? Which one results in the best experience?

All Pick or Random Draft?
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>tfw haven't played dota in 4 months
i'm scared to even touch it again

the rust is real, and i was never that good to begin with
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>>127424791
They would all end up floating to the same MMR bracket then it would be a bunch of wasted accounts.

I still have to do 3 heroes after this in case the bot loses its first pick. The idea is to see how far a fully autonomous bot can go in ranked MM.
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>>127424935
that's the idea anon, to make a bracket hell.
Make sure it's 3k ~
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>>127424230
If I ever released the bot publicly I'm positive it would ruin MM.
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How many items can I get away building on Spectre before radiance?

Also I'm not a good farmer (I play AM and my BFs usually come somewhere inbetween 15 and 17 minutes), can I realistically play her well enough?
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>>127424875
unless you're jumping into trench-level ranked on the first game, you literally have nothing to worry about
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Support drama queens are the worst. They need to make sure that everybody knows what a great deed they are doing by supporting and then throwing a fit and refusing to buy wards or whatever.

4k retards
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>>127425070
that's the idea anon.
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>>127424768
>misery
>literally anyone
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>>127424985
The implicit problem is that the bots play with/against each other, negating the purpose of it.
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>>127425142
there's no good offlaners in europe
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>>127425083
>carry gets ganked
>4 wards on the map
>NOOB SUPPORT FUCKING NO WARDS REPORTED!!!111!11

typical carry mindset
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>>127423258
I camped him hard as bh
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>>127425153
ANon.
The perfect match
1 human
9 bots.
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>>127425161
zai
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>>127425079
>How many items can I get away building on Spectre before radiance?

Get enough to offer basic sustain and some stuff that increases your farm.
If you didn't get quelling as starting item it's good to get it early in lane.
Aquila is fine to get and so are Tranq boots if you're mostly gonna farm and maybe help out with your ult every now and then (you don't always need to jump to illusions).
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>>127425263
he's retired
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>>127425258
Then I would have to code the bots to play 10 different heroes instead of the 4 I'm doing now.
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>>127424831
>All Pick

this
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>>127425079
aquila, phase
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>>127425327
To make it feel real some of them will DC anyways.
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>tacos on my USE

wew
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>>127425221
hello reddit
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>>127425395
>Canadacucks on my EU West
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>>127425446
hi 4chan ;^)
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>>127423339
Make them feed if they detect Spanish from a player on their team.
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>>127425523
Make them speak ONLY in spanish if on EU and ONLY in russian if on US
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>tfw bought SF arcana
>instantly lost first game
not cool lads
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>>127425523
If they get LPQ I have to play those games manually unless the bot gets super lucky with the pick phase.
>>127425578
They ping and use chatwheel. The bots aren't selfish, hoarding all the info to themselves. This is easy enough to take out and modify though, since I grouped all the communication together.
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>>127425723
>Entire enemy team is mia
>Durr let's gank the one visible person
Winning plan you got there.
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>>127425723
keep playing you'll get better!
don't use short or medium raze past 40 min unless you're very behind!
sf has a cool death animation, it's ok if you feed!
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>>127425884
>don't use short or medium raze past 40 min unless you're very behind!
why?
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What's the fucking build on faceless?
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>>127426138
Build tanky
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>>127426138
I've seen people go stuff like vlads or blink and fighting early.
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>>127426138
manta, radiance, vanguard and octomeme

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/16106615/matches?date=&hero=faceless-void&skill_bracket=&lobby_type=&game_mode=&region=&faction=&duration=&timezone=Etc%2FUTC
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>tfw no Pugna arcana that makes you a cute loli who goes aroung sugging digs
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>come to gank a lane
>"teammates" just stand there and not even attempt to help out, just stand there expecting me to 100-0 the opposition or maybe even didnt realize i'm there despite my pinging and chat announcements i'm coming over
k
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>want to play jakiro
>can't because he has no hats and I have a crippling hat addiction
When?
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What is most overrated item in the game?
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>>127426674
Boots
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>>127426674
aghanims scepter
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>>127426674
ags
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>>127426674
Force staff
It's so expensive for such bad stats and hardly ever saves anyone
Unless you're against clock or something, you might as well just get a glimmer
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>The losing team position 5 can't buy everything that's needed for a game
How do people like this breathe?
Do they seriously not know what playing position 5 means or do they think they actually meed a forcestaff+urn every single fucking game? With passive gold generation its basically impossible to not be able to afford wards and smokes as position 5
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>>127426817
If position 5 was good in the game the he wouldn't end up in the losing team.
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>>127426817
redditors that think they REALLY need those arcane boots
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>>127426817
>passive gold income increase
>gold spill for just being there
>cheaper support items
>support mains complain that they still don't have their dicks sucked enough
bad meme
bad fucking meme
>>
>have lost 11 games in a row
>last game legion goes 13-1
>ez win
>tries to solo duel bristleback and/or dragon knight 3 times in a row
>completely throws game doing this

have honestly forgotten what it feels like just to win a game. not being given a fair chance.
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>>127426907
>>127426969
Redditors are fucking retarded
>So chip in and get vision on the map/utility items.
or at least don't freak out when they keep giving up kills to gankers.
>Being the sole person on the 'losing' team responsible for: Courier, flying courier, vision wards, sentry wards, dusts, lane salves and smokes means no reasonably paced force staff ~

>force staff

I am probably being baited
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>>127426969
> arcane boots
> buying bad soul ring
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>>127427046
the only constant is you :^)
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>>127426674
>What is most overrated item in the game?

Aether

It's only good on like 15 heroes tops yet everyone keeps fucking buying it for every single hero they play.
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Mfw I got complacent while hitting the throne with my 2 rapier ember, get first hit bashed by their pa and double critted, lose the rapiers and the game one minute later at 75 mins for a nice juicy -25 to round me down to -100 for the day
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>>127427042
i miss the time when supporting was actually a sacrifice
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>>127426969
>2 supports in team
>10 minutes in, 4 wards in stock, courier is still walking
>both supports have arcanes completed
LOVE this meme
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>>127427245
should dodge this hit
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>>127427283
flying courier is useless anyway
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>>127426674
Heart
most of the players are sub-3k retards and retards just love that item
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>>127426817
>How do people like this breathe?
>Do they seriously not know what playing position 5 means or do they think they actually meed a forcestaff+urn every single fucking game? With passive gold generation its basically impossible to not be able to afford wards and smokes as position 5

Here's the thing.
Sometimes the support is solo.
Sometimes the player isn't playing a hero that functions well as a position 5.
Sometimes finishing an item will be more helpful to the team than buying wards off cd (a Rhasta finishing his brown boots will be more useful during ganks than if he bought some wards the other support could've gotten this time).
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>>127426674
orchid

countered 10 minutes after it arrives and basically useless after that
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>>127426674
magic wand.
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>>127427453
>picks a bad hero for the situation
>complains
nice la
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>nerf lone druid by making his bear worth 300 gold
>nerf pl illus because old pl was op as fuck
>LE WE REPEAT THE SAME MISTAKE EVERYTIME BUT DONT ADD NEW HEROES TO PRO DOTA

Why is Valve so shit at balancing and why do they always do the same mistake? Just give the fucking illu bounty.
>>
>Was playing a bane just a moment before this post, sure it may not have been my best performance on that hero, but I was doing well, got my arcanes, urn, wand pretty early. Anyways team had some bad time and we lost some teamfights, shit looked dire, I managed to buy a glimmer cape now shit started to hit the fan I was constantly flamed for not buying the blink dagger, even tho I used my glimmer to save teammates jesus christ I got so tilted I had to mute them, almost started to feed if it weren't for our TA that saved the game.
>TL:DR I agree with op, don't expect us to be 6 slotted by 20 minutes when we give up all farm to our carries, buy wards, sentries, couriers, roam, gank etc.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
POSITION 5 AMIRITE GUISSE?

>>127427453
If you pick position 5 and finish arcanes before flying courier you deserve to be sub 2k
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>>127427573
>>picks a bad hero for the situation

You typically pick supports first. It's the teams fault if they follow up a position 4 support pick by picking 4 cores or another position 3-4 hero as a support.
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>>127427781
>you
>typically
>pick
>supports
>first
what fucking world is this?
Why are you not instalocking invoker?
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>>127427731
> hero with 30% winrate is op
low tier bait bro
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>>127427731
>Just give the fucking illu bounty.

IT'S NOT AN ILLUSION YOU FUCKING RETARD
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>>127427876
>high micro hero has low winrate
>people who don't rush necro and can't micro
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>>127399948
the jungling changes havent actually made jungling any better than it was before. they've only really made people start jungling bloodseeker and lc (which are both still just as bad in the jungle)
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>>127427897
aghs + lens + oct + refresher
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>decent nerfs that make the hero no longer impossible to escape or dodge even when played by a complete retard
sure
>damage clips and duration nerfs
ok, sure
>more damage nerfs
uhh.... sure...?
>more damage nerfs
why tho
>more ability duration and effects nerfs
why
>Fixed Geomagnetic Grip Geomagnetic Grip being able to pull you out of Duel, Black Hole
what do you mean FIXED?
>complete removal of ability functionality and strapping it to shitty aghanim gimmick
??????
>completely fuck up every single one of his voice clips and responses that i loved so much

fuck this, im done
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>>127428051
>62% WR in pro dota
?
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>>127428051
The patch he was released in was one of the best patches I can remember
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How do I build Venge?

Arcane, Medallion/Force, Aether, (Solar,) Aghs?
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>>127428125
Pic related is including the time he was un fucking touchable
>>127428163
he was bullshit, now hes weak shit
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How to play oracle? Skills to learn first?
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>>127428014
yeah but he also has a dogshit winrate even in 5k+ mmr games
sorry but this champ is just garbage
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FINALLY GOT MY INTERNET BACK
HAHAHA TIME FOR DOTA 2
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>>127428205
>using the statistics which are fucked due to massive amounts of retards playing him
:^)
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>>127428205
He still has decent win rate in higher skill brackets.
I'm biased as fuck because he is my favourite hero, but I still don't think he was nerfed too hard.
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>>127428497
>>127428650

Fuck, man, ive taken each and every nerf up the ass, and i still did good, but it feels like its half the hero i played after they removed the grip "get-your-retard-teammate-out-of-jail-free" and shitty "reborn" shat all over his voice.
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What was the single biggest nerf in dota history?
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>>127428826
post TI2 morphling nerfs

the hero is still dogshit due to them
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Gimme a dank steamavatar my old one has gotten boring.
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>>127428826
storm spirit remnant from scaling to constant 100 mana cost
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>>127428892
>not remembering AM in his prime
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>>127428826
removal of gambler
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>>127428950
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>>127428983
Prime AM was due to the limited hero pool more than anything else
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>>127428950
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THIS GUY IS SO FUCKING SHIT IM SO GOD DMAN MAD
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>>127428950
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>>127428308
max purifying flames by 7, no exceptions
lvl 1 skillpoint either into quas, fortunes end, for a pseudostun and easy first blood on tards, or wex, fates edict, to make enemy not get lasthits while getting rightclicked like a bitch with your balanced 1.4 bat
play him mid
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>>127428190
>How do I build Venge?

Aether rush.
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>>127429095
K
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>Qop gets Aghs as first item after treads
What are some other telltale signs of a lost match /d2g/?
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>>127428950
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>>127429180
viable in certain cases
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>>127429180
People that think an entire match is lost after one bad item purchase less than 20 minutes in.
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>>127429180
picking meme heroes like carry abaddon
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>>127429180
>picking farm heavy heroes
>picking heroes who need to come online
>picking weak supports
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How do I carry as Rylai?
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>>127429180
>What are some other telltale signs of a lost match /d2g/?

This one, Jamie
>4th pick LC that marks jungle
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>>127429180
>intelligence spellcaster champion gets threads and not arcanes
GG
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>>127429180
someone last picks jungle LC
on the other team
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>play some relaxing smurf while my booster gets me out of low priority
>get this jugg memer from here
>thinks he's good but is normal skill
>carry him
>UR SHIT
>UR BAD

save it for a game where you didnt get carried and outdamaged :(
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>>127429180
>Alch max greed first
>First item rush hand of midas
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>>127429501
BKB+invis+ult
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>>127429180
enemy gets the jungle LC
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>>127429596
>shittalking as aghs + lens ES Shaker
top lel
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>>127429180
>picking phase
>"need tank"
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>AGDQ went down the shitter when a gurl gamer got to eat an HOUR AND TWENTY MINUTES longplaying 4-player co-op L4D2 on easy
Fuck this, I'd rather play a game of Dota.

0 decides what hero/build I use for this next game.
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>>127429596
>all those terrible item builds on everyone but ursa
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>>127429180
>"i want to lane with my friend xddd"
>someone pick x hero, its good
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>>127429852
>vlads
>good
you fucked up there m8
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>>127429852
my item build wrecked shop son

reminder that aghs luna is EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY OVERPOWERED AND FREE MMR
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>PSG is the luna aghs shitter
this explains everything
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>>127429910
>luna
>free mmr
yea maybe in 2k mmr
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@127429910
>le epic aghs kills
>meanwhile enemy has ALL of their towers standing, while your team has only 1 outer tower and exposed mid racks
top fucking lel
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>>127429180
>What are some other telltale signs of a lost match /d2g/?

When my allies start telling me what to pick and what to do when I have not only have 200 more MMR than them but also 1000 more matches played.
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>>127429963
I thought this was common knowledge
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>>127429852
Jugger build is ok, im not sur eabout mkb tho, i guess just for the raw dmg but still
Es build is fine
Cm build is fine
Tiny build is fine
Dont like vlads on ursa or sny personally
Lol at zeus and lc
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>teammate contests your lasthits
>he blantantly misses them WHILE fucking up yours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTKd82Dh8Dk
i want league refugees to go
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>>127429910
you know aether lens doesnt increase AOE on your ult right
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>>127430050
>1000 more matches than the average shitter
>still doesn't consider others advice
yeah you're not gitting gud ever
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>>127429891
>tons of physical damage on enemy team
>enemy has natural ac carrier
>meanwhile your team has no armor

Yeah, Vlad wasn't bad there.
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>>127430084
yes it does, it increases the castable range, you can cast it on teammates also
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>>127429910
>94 lh 9 kills
>aghs, lens and soul booster
that bonus gold from leavers sure helped
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Reminder that as of 223 hours ago we are living in the Pudge Meta
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>>127430084
Even if it did, increasing the AOE would be a bad thing desu

If anything, I'd want to make it smaller
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>>127430164
you dont know what AOE is do you
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>>127430004
luna's winrate peaks in both sub-2k and over 5k+ mmr (54% winrate) games though

>>127430079
>aghs lens ES
>fine
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>>127430229
>people who think pudge is viable
>hero with only 1 good spell you need to aim viable
top kek
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>>127430330
>a billion seconds BKB piercing disable on low cd
>bad
phew
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Reminder
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>>127430294
Whats wrong with aghs lens es?
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>>127430330
>i know better than T1 teams
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>>127429910
>lol look at this epic cherrypick vs shitter where i buy items that don't even benefit me like aether

Yeah, amazing.

>>127430079
ES built Aghs over Veil (enemy had no illus or a bunch of units) and got a retarded Aether.
Getting Aether, Blink and Force is redundant. She should've cut 1 of those items and worked on a more useful item like a Solar or something bigger.
Tiny getting blink when he has wisp is retarded. The entire point of wisp is that you don't need the blink. He also has no fucking armor.
On Ursa both items are situationally good, in this match they were acceptable pickups because of the enemy picks and items.
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>>127430330
>being picked 40% of the time
>over 50% win rate
yeah he's not meta
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>>127430503
>Tiny getting blink when he has wisp is retarded
The wisp is there for +as, blink is always good on Tiny. Many pro players still pick up a blink with an io on their team

The tiny's biggest problem was that he didn't farm for shit.
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What is the dota equivalent of TF2s Vagineer?
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>>127430503
>The entire point of wisp is that you don't need the blink
Uhh no, the entire point of wisp is to make you more tanky and give you as, blink is always good because wisp theter range is fucking retarded that you can jump in as tiny, blow someone up with ava toss combo and get wisp on you to smack shit around
The veil on es is situational as well as aghs, i dont know why he built lens tho, i never even tried that item. Getting both force and blink is rly good on es, i almost always build them and aghs is always good no matter if there are illus or not
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>>127430139
I have 1000 more matches than them, 200 more mmr and yet I should listen to their advice when they tell me to pick jungle Naix vs the enemy Slardar (since "slardar is a str hero") when we had 1 support and I had last pick.

Or how about the time when they got mad at me for maxing Glimpse first and not Thunder strike to "harass" with in lane?
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>>127428950
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>>127430771
The fact that you have 1000 more matches than them but are still being matches with people like this should tell you something, no?
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>>127428950
Dota releated?
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>pudge survived the reddit passive-aggressive kneejerk balance patch untouched

>so valve / icefrog (if he's still around) think him perfectly balanced

i've been waiting years for this meta

this meta where teams other than na`vi pick pudge
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how the fuck do I aim boulder toss on stone remnants with quick cast on
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>>127413479
>bristleback
>sniper
>drow ranger
>ember spirit
>tinker
and the list goes on senpai
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>>127430585
>>127430708
You get said blink later if needed. The fucker had Aghs, BKB and treads. His problem is not fucking mobility right now.
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>>127428950
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>>127430503
>Tiny getting blink when he has wisp is retarded. The entire point of wisp is that you don't need the blink. He also has no fucking armor.
why are retards always so vocal and stubborn with their opinions? you can ARGUe that you can skip the blink on tiny with wisp, but blink on tiny is such a huge increase in power on him at any stage for fighting, farming, splitpushing, basically everything, so why wouldnt you get it?
wisps main function is mana, relocate and AS/dmgresistance in THAT order in the early game, and in mid/late its a tossup between relocate and AS/dmgresistance
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is anyone streaming?
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>>127430891
>get blink later
The entire point of blink on tiny is to get it as early as possible while you can still instantly blow people up

This is basic shit man
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Best looking Beastmaster right here.

Only fags wouldn't agree.
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>>127428950
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>>127430891
What the hell.. Just stop please
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>>127430891
His problem was that he was a bad player

He had an okay item build, he just didn't know how to play the game
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I've been thinking.
Why not just pentalane mid and push t3 at 5:00?
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>>127431167
Uh, what do you plan on doing when the four other team members turn up outleveling and outfarming you?
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>>127431167
I've been saying this for a while now. I don't actually know because I've never convinced a team to actually try it.
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>>127431167
because heroes aren't strong enough to do that at level 1 so towerhugging defensive play hard counters that
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>>127431167
because they see your dumb push draft and get 1 hero like kotl which delays your push and you lose because they're 10x as farmed at 15 minutes gg no re
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>>127426674
vanguard linkens vlads

holy trinity of garena pubs
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alright legit fucking question.

what do you ACTUALLY do against

1) late game furion when he has all the meme items
2) late game pudge when he has all the meme items

first is literally you wanna push too bad thats not gonna happen
second is literally let me just hook into the blue oh that didnt work guess ill try again in a second ok now it worked
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>>127431238
>heroes aren't strong enough to do that at level 1
what if you get a crystal maiden to ferry an axe who builds 2 stout shields a hard camp creep kill, so you have a level 2 axe + other strong low level heros and gank their mid while they're blocking creeps

easy 5 man sub minute 1 first blood then go back to laning, gg no re
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>>127431217
Having won the game by that moment.
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>>127385567
reminder that JUNGLE LC is your way out of the trench
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>>127431530
How do you plan on winning when at 5 mins in all of your heroes are underfarmed and underleveled and they've had two free lanes to piss around in?
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>>127431525
ive read some dumb shit on d2g before but this
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>>127430972
>The entire point of blink on tiny is to get it as early as possible while you can still instantly blow people up

Yes but that isn't needed with wisp since you gank with relocate. I say again, his problem was not fucking mobility that match. He fucking died like shit.

>>127431047
Ok then trashcan.

>>127431078
Without Ursa he would've had a borderline negative armor rating vs a high physical dmg lineup and you're telling me his build was fine?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWTxaz-RVWo
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>>127431650
>4 man level 1 smoke is dumb shit
yeah I guess if you don't like winning
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>>127431510
>late game pudge
He deals virtually no damage, just ignore him.
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>pick position 17 supportcuckhero
>expect to get carried by people like piv related that cant break 400 gpm with freefarm
>complain that you lost but you bought wards

this is best meme of all time t b h

If you werent shit in the first place you would pick core yourself and get farm easily because scrubshits literally cannot shit on weak lanes.

But yeah, that requires you to get goos and not being the person with 9 last hits in 10 minutes with free farm.

>hurr but pubs dont buy wards in my bracket

implying you even look at minimap when you are struggling to breathe and last hit simultaneously.
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>>127431845
thank spoopy spectre ghost
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>>127431845
summoning psg
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>your teammates complain about you not pushing
>game ends
>highest TD

erry time
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>get 4stack of germans
>I'm only person on team with positive score
>they say to report me for not executing flawlessly in fights where 2 of them ran away with full hp and mana
>sell items and intentional feed

every time. why don't people learn?
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>>127432060
so?

i bet you think the person with the most kills is the best player on your team too
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>>127432097
>telling the one person whose actually pushing they're not pushing
>don't see the problem
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>>127432078
All I'm hearing is
>I like to 1v5 why my team isn't following me ;(((
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>>127432192
nope it was 5 on 5 teamfights

sniper with dragon lance literally runs away with 100hp/mana without shooting someone once or shrapneling

>we lose fight due to global silence and wd ult
>"your fault tusk"
>>
me good
>>
Team bad
>>
team booga
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>>127432234
>Losing with Tusk
>>
me play good do

team bad is play

ooga me

team booga
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how come nobody likes him? I dont see him in tournaments.
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>>127432314
treads dragon lance claymore sniper at 30 minutes

game was over anyway
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>it can't ever be your team's fault
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>>127431845
THANK SPOOPY SPECTRE GHOST
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>>127432438
no one ever goes around in these threads saying it's never your team's fault

it's just that you can't control how good or bad your teammates is so if you actually care about winning instead of bitching on 4chan you work on your own play instead of getting angry at your teammates
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>>127432438
its just a tired narrative from a group of people who don't have their own thoughts and just repeat whatever they know

you know damn well it isnt always your fault so dont bother with the negashit here
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>>127432343
Laning a melee hero is hard.
Laning a melee hero without a escape, who is squishy, and has subpar base damage is even harder.
Basically you gotta stay ranged form the entire laning stage, use melee form to reduce damage and trade hits if they get in melee range.

His skill cap increased wastly, and he is hard to play.
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>>127431167
because going highground isn't easier at 10 min than it is at 30?
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>>127432531
it almost looks like you can see axes BIG RED BALLS
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so this...is the power...of romania

dude sitting there steady biking to power his computer probably

yes i paid to get out of low priority no it doesn't even bother me. 8.50 usd to not win 5 low priority games is literally the best value that has ever existed on the planet earth
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>>127432343
He is extreemely weak to magic in a heavy nuking meta so far. Could change further down the line though.
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>>127431510
>1) late game furion when he has all the meme items
kill him or have two people who can push out lanes without feeding, then push out the third lane to base
cant do that?
you've lost m8
>2) late game pudge when he has all the meme items
stop feeding him you fuck
have blink, force and stun for when he hooks someone so they can live, and have bkb on your carries so they can pop it and fight pudge/his team after being hooked
can't do that?
you've lost
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last patches ran stale mb but holy shit does this patch ahve some broken as fuck heroes what was he thinking
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>>127432531
>His skill cap increased wastly

what did he mean by this?
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>>127432438
never give up
just kidding
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>>127432234
>running into a fight against global silence and death ward
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>>127432791
>sniper not just autoattacking wd once to knock him out of death ward
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>>127432693
If you have a easy time laning, due hitting for +20 damage at level 1, and you get a stout shield, its easy.
When you don't get that, you have trouble lasthitting, you have to actually lane while contested.
Thats basically the change.
He used to be able to leverage his base damage in melee form, lasthit when safe, and win lane without a lot of effort.

Now you have to really try. He is still rather good, because 1 point in Fervor is amazing for trading, but it requires a lot of effort and there is large gains on switching between ranged and melee form between attacks for movespeed and armor.
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>>127429910

I actually watched this game, in addition to getting all the leaver gold he was carried by BH who set up a ton of kills early game skyrocketing his gpm but then PSG renounced him in twitch chat claiming the game was all him.
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>>127432927
it's called banter son, one day you'll under...no you have autism you can't understand shit like that actually
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>>127432784
>doom not going aghs
eeeeh
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>>127432234
>Having a sniper on the team that doesn't attack move
>And always ulties 20-30HP over lethal range, due forgetting about magic resistance
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>>127433026
>people of this skill level
>knowing how much damage their skills do
???
talking about a guy who had, once again, treads dragon lance claymore at 30 minutes
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What are you guys doing to celebrate runescape's 15th birthday?
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>>127432975

No. He unironically believed that his team was shit and he was good.
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