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Previous Thread: >>127208190
nth for Traxex is the best waif/u/
>1 post early
Prepare to get nuked
>>tfw no girly goblin prince hero
>>tfw no hero that personifies /cuteboys/
>or /pol/ for that matter
SJWs should do something good for once.
>70% of the general is off topic shit posts
>lets delete a slightly early thread instead
>clearly an early thread is the bigger problem
mods are such fucking autists
>People keep picking anti mage in my games
>24 minutes before he gets a manta, vlads, treads, bf
>In 12 minutes a jugg has midas, treads and S&Y and is ready to kill every building on the map
>In 4 more minutes he'll get a basher
>by 24 minutes he has a skadi
why do people keep playing AM?
Anyone want to trade the new compendium bundles that became tradable yesterday?
I have the Morphling, Windranger, Drow Ranger, Leshrac sets. Looking for Razor, Wraith King, Lina, Witch Doctor.
new bloom will have Invoker arcana that is simultaneously a genderswap arcana and loli hero arcana, also he will be revealed to have always been a girl, but changed form because of harassment
sundering this cabal
with no survivors
>won a game with a 5k and 7k smurf(or so they claimed)
>was boring as fuck
I'm glad I wasn't on the receiving end, but god damn are such wins cheap. Sven probably wasn't, but the ursa was since he went 33/1/2.
So in a move to try and make myself play better, i've taken to whipping myself with a leather belt every time i lose. one lash for each MMR point lost. Anyway, just lost a game for 29 points. 29 lashes it is.
Just on my arm, nowhere too delicate. only, i'm typing this one handed right now because my arm is stinging and numb, and i think i broke the skin in a few places.
So, on reflection it might not be the best motivational strategy.
dude, its not dota related like at all. the whole point of this board is to discuss a single game in each general. there is no anime in dota. it is off topic. fucking deal with it
if you want to post anime do it in a general about an anime game
>suomi vs. canada 5-5
what hero do I play to calm my nerves
Pit Lord when?
Wasn't he ready for TI5 for christ's sake
this slut currently has 900 viewers, surely there are some sad lonely beta bucks among them
what do u think her VIP sub benefits are?
want to focus on increasing my mmr this year, and im not that experienced in ranked. Starting at 1.6k what heroes would you recommend I learn to play so I can carry the team if someone picks mid
you could try spamming offlane heroes. I have no idea how bad 1,6k is ,but i'm sure you can work on last hitting,buying bkb and remembering all your active items and easily climb 1k mmr in a month
Yea I've been watching my replays and have started always carrying TP scrolls and buying the wards because no one else does it. Just that with the support heroes I play it can be hard to carry if I have a nonce on my team that won't cooperate - so what offlane heroes would you recommend?
>I can carry the team
bad mindset to get into, youre 1.6k, youre not better than your 1.6k teammates so it makes no real difference whos carrying
just work on everything, one small thing at a time
last hitting, remembering active items, stacking jungle camps while moving around the map etc
So I started yesterday playing DotA 2, and so far I've tried Arc Warden and Witch Doctor. I didn't find AW to be too new player friends but WD seems fine to learn for a beginner.
Any other heroes you would recommend for a beginner?
That's a big list. Are these in any particular order of which I should learn first?
go ask this on reddit, seriously. 90% of this general is terrible and will give you awful advice. the people on reddit are much higher skill and can help you grow as a player much faster
hope this makes the list easier to digest. just look at their skills and decide if you like any of them
also >>127236310, seriously. you will learn much faster from reddit than from us
I don't have a Reddit account.
Ok will do. I don't know what MMR is but it sounds like ranked?
Alright. I think I like support the most but I'll try Wraith King first and see if I like him.
>people actually reading the OP
half that shit in there is outdated as fuck
it takes like 2 minutes to make a reddit account and spending that two minutes registering will save you tons of time when you actually learn useful shit instead of spending your time here arguing about what jungle hero you should pick in your 1k mmr games
Yeah it's ranked. Supports like lion and lina are also good. Lich is very easy and does a lot of damage so you should try him after wraith king. You're only gonna have fun for 200 hours after which you will get addicted and no longer enjoy this game.
It depends weither Supporting or Carrying turns out to be more satisfying
Just go with bots and try heroes, you'll find which ones that you can use easily; all the heroes are avaiable, go nuts
You'll get advice here, but the general has gone to shit a while ago. Basically 1% great stuff and 99% attention whores/shitposts.
Reddit isn't much better. It's more or less the same. If you're actually totally new you should google purges guide called "welcome to dota, you suck".
Just remember in most games no one will want to support/buy wards/pay attention to the mini map/carry a tp.
>Wow I'm so good!
>I just hope nobody enters the jungle
i mean honestly its a no brainer that if you want to get better you should post and lurk on reddit
if you honestly think this general will teach you anything and that 90% of the posters are not 2k you might be retarded.
i mean shit, all the pros post on reddit, when was the last time anyone important posted here? oh ya, never
>If you're actually totally new you should google purges guide called "welcome to dota, you suck".
That one is fucking terrible.
>when was the last time anyone important posted here?
I post here though
yes, on twitter you can find links to pro streams, guides, and generally learn the thought process of pro players who are 90000x better than the third world retard trying too force shitty memes here
Comments on both sites are shit. Absolute, unending waves of shit. Here due to anonymity people just try to rile people up with various crap, while reddits upvote system creates a mild hivemind.
Who gives a shit if pros have reddit accounts? When was the last time pros posted insightful replies in regards to gameplay? Only thing they do is participate in pathetic attempts at drama. Usually not even that if they're smart.
Both sites have a majority of posters who are 2k. Both sites post awful advice about pretty much everything in most cases.
I'm not defending this hellhole, or shitting on reddit, but the fact of the mater is that both sites are horrible if you want to learn dota, have extremely similar userbases and it would be for the best if they were both nuked and we started over.
no one on reddit will tell you how good jungle lc really is
What's the best hard carry for gitting gud?
I will have the Rocky theme playing on repeat the entire time
>people unironically recommend leddit
What the fuck is wrong if you guys?
>i mean honestly its a no brainer that if you want to get better you should post and lurk on reddit
No, reddit is consistently terrible and wrong and have a tendency to downvote people that post factually correct information.
Skill and knowledge wise reddit is just as bad as d2g. This is because most people that play Dota re in fact terrible at it (a very small percentage even play at VHS, which is at anything above 3700 mmr).
Yeah but I don't like Reddit. I prefer 4chan as I've been posting here since 2005.
Okay. I tried ranked in LoL a while ago but it was frustrating. I imagine it's the same thing with DotA?
Alright. I don't mind supporting. It's what I'm used to in all of the co-op games I've played.
So I tried Wraith King and I guess I didn't do so bad for my first time? The Broodmother player seemed to know what they were doing so I guess there's that. I'll try Wraith King again since he seems pretty simple.
All of them.
There is no dedicated best hard carry, all do different things and work against different matchups.
AM is generally the best for learning but you lean more towards a splitpusher than a carry for the most part. He teaches you tread switching if nothing else.
hey man did you download my replay?
Please just play normal games and accept that you're going to lose trying new things out for a couple of games, people who bitch about winrate aren't ever going to win an international tournament anyways so who gives a fuck.
idk about "good" but she's boring as fuck
wow i wonder what i'm gonna do this game
am i gonna farm into a blink, blink duel, right click my opponent and use my buffs off cd? you bet!!!
viper is the most straight forward hero like ever dude, if you really dont know how to play him you are fucking stupid and should uninstall dota forever before you forced 50 your team
She is good and she is fun, but she's a flood or drought style hero. She's really hard to make a comeback with because she relies entirely on winning lane hard and getting a duel or two won in the process, and using that momentum to snowball out of control and keep winning duels until she's got 200 bonus damage then she just walks up and three hits all the towers with her 5k health pool and skull basher.
Right now I feel like the most reliable and self-sufficient hard carry is Ember Spirit
Juggernaut is good if you want something easier to play
They are both carries who can fight early, split push and bail themselves out
ARTEEZY is considered best player for the whole year by many PROS, with him secret was considered one of the best or the best team in history of dota and dominate other top tier teams like they are tier 2 until their crumble with conflict in TI5, and even when he goes back to EG, EG is still one of the best team, and may be the best if they figure out the sumail+rtz team work and win SHANGHAI MAJOR. Look at the whole year of 2015, i dont see any carry is better in term of performance + results as RTZ, FEAR also deserve to win coz he won TI5 and DAC, but there is a reason FEAR chose to be supporter to give RTZ the CARRY role in EG even after he won TI5.
>one of the people that consistently is vocally about the recent retarded censorship rules
>argued for years with extremist feminists
Your powers of deduction is unparalleled.
I'm 2k trash and I've played more games on a hero
>>new players should feel like they're great at the game
Giving them the mindset that "It's ok to be shit since I'm supposed to be anyway!" or painting a shitty picture of the game over actually teaching them something useful is worse than shit, it's detrimental to the learning process.
Pointing new players to that "guide" is a fucking terrible idea.
>buying a blink on LC when shadow blade into silver edge is objectively better
Amount of heroes that CAN'T kill a hero with very low HP, no mana, no boots and no items: ???
>>buying a blink on LC when shadow blade into silver edge is objectively better
Blink is almost always better yet you fail to understand why. This is because you don't even understand the purpose of each of those items, nor how LC should play.
>You win against entire trilanes with that extra camp by the offlane
Winning against subhumans with dogshit heroes and they don't even trilane properly? What an achievement.
Look at this beta mongoloid who needs an artificial rush of endorphins from staring at a computer screen until it arranges the correct set up colors and patterns on its lcd display.
i attribute that for being the only reason that i was calibrated at 2800MMR when ranked came out
strength morph is stupid overpowered versus players with zero brains, you just do stupid shit, get free kills, strength morph and walk away. that was like 90% of my games as him.
i have over 4900 hours and i'm still stuck in 3.5K hell, maybe i need to revisit morphling now that my farm is way more consistent (600gpm on average).
I hate trees
Everyone hates trees
Tangos can plant happy trees
FUCK happy trees
>You have 10 seconds to name a good video game released in the past 5 years
There have been good games released every single year.
But I guess games like GTA5, Rayman Legends, XCOM, Metro, etc. were shit.
he doesn't need one. he's still an incredibly powerful hero that pretty much shit-stomps the fuck out of any low-skill MMR. just because he isn't the best carry, doesn't mean he's shit.
if the meta ever shifts back to rice meta, he will be considered an OP beast of a hero.
arguably, he's OP right now because they reduced the manacost on Ethereal Blade which was one of the huge nerfs to him back in 2012.
>did you even read it, actually?
Yes. When I started out years ago and then recently again.
It's fucking garbage. Only bad players recommend and people that haven't read it recommend it.
>you cant jungle her for shit.
That's exactly what I'm saying
>bots jugg splitpushing
>dying everytime we leave our base
>yolo naix and storm think they can 2v5
>mid rax lost, about to lose our other sets of rax
>kill 3 of them
>push back mid
>kill him again
>t4 gg push and win
is there anything abaddon can't do?
i just went aghs and greaves and spamhealed and shielded my teammates when they got focused and we just won by outlasting them
15k hero damage and 8.5k healing
even when it looks like an obvious loss you still win
How do you play him then? You can't afk farm anymore
the way i've always played him, you're supposed to play stupidly aggressive and bait people into feeding you by playing dangerously and punishing them with waveform.
you need to know how to manage your mana well.
>I can dispell it with PtA
>I-If I HAD the mana....
Or you could just lead in with crystal nova then wait for PTA till you Frostbite?
Also bear in fact that this is time that your LC isn't spending farming, which is the entire reason she's supposed to be there in the first place
we got a lot of kills at the end of the laning phase, then we started falling behind when they picked off cm, naix and storm when they were in the jungle
we also lost a few teamfights towards the end, at the same time they were starting to take our top and bot barracks
in terms of stats we were ahead, but we were in reality starting to crumble - which was the point when i rushed greaves and just stayed back keeping my team alive in duels and shit
i like to post here, but i don't want to be recognized so i'll get filtered everytime i post like you will
>Also bear in fact that this is the time where your safelane isnt losing
which is what all you faggots cry about.
also who is posting these low hp memes?
the only camp that actually causes LC to lose hp is the big centaur camp everything else HEALS you when chokepointing
i don't think it made a difference that he was jungling, because they would stampede and lc, rubick and jugg would try to get a gank on me
but after the first time i just stayed back and tried to get a few last hits with coil
That happens sometimes. The later you attempt the gank, the less likely it becomes though. As a CM, going for the dogshit jungler usually isn't my top priority.
low level crystal nova doesn't do that much, yes maybe it will spook a bad LC into wasting PTA but probably not
Note that circumstances have to be absolutely perfect to solokill a jungling LC and I have seen PLENTY of LCs that can jungle without getting lower than 75% hp
>also who is posting these low hp memes?
I've hated junglers forever but as soon as 'jungle LC is always bad' started becoming popular on Reddit I knew that /d2g/ shitters were going to start spamming it with their 2K understanding of the game
It's bad but people can and do get away with it all the fucking time even at higher MMRs
And most junglers are bad but there are plenty that actually do know what they're doing
Your average /d2g/ shitter probably auto-throws the moment they see jungle LC "see I knew we would lose"
>How do we know you're not the bad player here?
Because I'm not. I'm well aware of my own skill level and I consistently correct people and I'm right about pretty much everything I say since I don't make bold statements without proper backing.
But by all means, tell me why the purge guide is so amazing.
>I'm well aware of my own skill level and I consistently correct people and I'm right about pretty much everything I say since I don't make bold statements without proper backing.
I was only watching envy since he's the only relevant pro player besides ppd playing right now, but ppd is actually good so his stream isn't that entertaining. Watching envy be a retard and showing just how hard he gets carried by his team is fun to watch.
>when Dad is streaming
And who's that?
>Also a LC who then mans the fuck up can solokill CM easily
Why do you think the support goes 1v1? Do you think Dota is some gentlemans sport?
Are you one of those people that type
>it took 2/3 of you to kill me, haha!
All it takes is a CM and a rotating BH or something for you get your ass raped.
>It's bad but people can and do get away with it all the fucking time even at higher MMRs
Even if the LC players gets carried by their team that doesn't change the fact that you're being a massive cunt to the rest of your team.
Any idea how utterly painful it is for a solo support in those matches because your retarded ass 4th or 5th pick jungle LC?
I love when armchair shitters just keep continually altering the scenario
>b-b-but you had a bounty hunter all along!
>and you were smoked
>also CM picked up a haste rune
>a-and the clockwerk on their team helped out with a flare from offlane!
are you the guy who want apeshit about the purge guide a week back?
here's one reason why the purge guide might be considered good
it contains a lot of indepth information about the game that's not common knowledge to low and even a lot of medium skilled players
to a bitter know-it-all like you it offers nothing, but it's not supposed to, so no one is really bothered by your opinion on it
>You were the one to first start making claims here anon, the burden of proof is on you
I already did provide arguments which have yet to be countered.
If I examine purge's guide in detail and write several paragraphs on it it will just be ignored or handwaved away. I know how the people here work because I have done stuff like this several times before for the exact same result.
So please go suck Purge's dick elsewhere.
>entire team composes of meme-spamming buzzword abusing fucks who screech in chat like retards
>no matter how much "You are the only constant" applies you will still lose if a single person fucks up.
sometimes I wonder why I even play this game.
>I love when armchair shitters just keep continually altering the scenario
There is nothing to alter. If you think a CM is a hero that runs around and solo ganks heroes early game you're beyond retarded.
Point being that ganking an LC in the jungle is not difficult. Some heroes can do it solo, others might need an additional hero with them. However that doesn't change the fact that number advantage during a gank is standard.
i wouldn't ask him for game related advice, but he's funnylooking and can handle the bantz
it's okay to have someone to lighten the mood when there's nothing exciting going on ingame
Holy shit why is everyone so terrible in ranked RD? It's like almost everyone knows how to play exactly one hero even though there's almost a 50% chance of having one hero that they want.
Spare me your redditizing, Redditor
Jungle LC is situational and can work great provided the player isn't dogshit, which they often are. And the enemy supports aren't fantastic, which they rarely are.
What part of "I've hated junglers forever" do you not understand? I never jungle and frequently play solo support.
You stupid redditors think you've made some amazing understanding about lane dynamics but its old news to any seasoned player and we know how to work around it. Jungle LC has been a fucking plague for centuries so it's just laughable that only now are some people spamming about it.
>are you the guy who want apeshit about the purge guide a week back?
The fuck are you talking about?
>it contains a lot of indepth information about the game that's not common knowledge to low and even a lot of medium skilled players
Funny, mind giving examples because I sure as fuck don't recall that.
NEW enough to not know ?!??! is the new meme of 2016.
1k is a meme
no one wants to take the game seriously, people even pay money for 1k accounts to see what kind of madness goes on in the deepest trench
play normal, practice, recalibrate
you're wasting your time in 1k if you wanna climb
We've been talking about solo killing LC
Yes you can 2-man gank her with smoke if you really really want her dead but that takes a significant more amount of investment and coordination that aren't always available in a pub
>b-b-but what kind of dogshit bracket are you in where people don't 2-man gank
The dogshit bracket with jungle LCs which is all of them you fucking retard
Players in 1k are actually very inconsistent. Sometimes you have good players who know what they're doing, sometimes you have peruvians who feed. People are there mostly because they give up and not because they are bad.
>Holy shit why is everyone so terrible in ranked RD? It's like almost everyone knows how to play exactly one hero even though there's almost a 50% chance of having one hero that they want.
People have stuck to AP for fucking ages.
I have 2000 something ordinary RD matches, which makes up about 50% of all of my matches. Most players do not have a 50% RD match count.
> Players in 1k are actually very inconsistent. Sometimes you have good players who know what they're doing
No, you don't.
Source: My friend is a 1k player and sometimes I play on his account for fun and I always win easily even though I'm a 3k shitter because no one else know how to play the game.
>as a solo support
it aint going to happen.
I get the most assists and fewest deaths of the team on average. occasionally couple of games where I fucked up and those i fully accept as my fault.
but every fucking game there is that one core who suicide dives and whines the entire team wernt there to help. in caps lock
tips for recalibration?
Why the fuck did frosty toad nerf SF? Because he was picked frequently? The hero was balanced and wasn't even picked until that goddamn euls blink build came into fruition earlier this year around DAC.
Now he is complete garbage unless you have the easiest midlane of your life.
>Jungle LC is situational and can work great provided the player isn't dogshit, which they often are. And the enemy supports aren't fantastic, which they rarely are.
It isn't shit if
Your team has strong laning heroes and they don't suck
The enemy was weak laners, bad players and play passively.
It isn't situationally good, it can just situationally work for entirely the wrong reasons.
>The fuck are you talking about?
i had the same kind of discussion a week back, i was asking if it was the same person
>I sure as fuck don't recall that
of course you don't because it doesn't apply to you
i'm not even gonna bother going through the guide to handpick examples, because it's just that fucking obvious that if you don't realize the value the guide has to low-medium players then you need to check yourself
>Jungle LC has been a fucking plague for centuries so it's just laughable that only now are some people spamming about it.
I have told people this has been shit for years and not just about LC.
No idea why you bring reddit into this. If that is something they're posting about now then maybe you should stick to reddit then since you seem to know so much about them.
>the mid hero that every team WILL pick first phase if you give them the chance, will deal tons of damage at every stage of the game and can farm quickly is balanced
-buttmad SF main
There are things you take for granted that help you win in your bracket that don't happen in 1k, for example people who know when to push, when to smoke gank, when to rotate or TP or rosh, having heroes which synergize with each other, etc.
Every game will go to 50 minutes because there is no coordination and that's what makes it hard to win.
Players who queue up for meme mods like RD are either pretentious fucks who overrate themselves, or they play it because they're not particularly good with any hero
Pub Dota 2 is a game about two things. Morale and getting away with being greedy.
I love the meme that Dota 2 is always played robotically and optimally, it's really funny next to all the posts about how teammates continuously do retarded game losing shit
>of course you don't because it doesn't apply to you
Picking up on the stuff you implied is easy, especially if you can actually play the game.
The guide is constantly recommended because no one knows of any other guide than that trash shitfest writeup.
That's because you're also 1k (it's fine, but if you want to get better you should stop complaining about your teammates and git gud).
You can always pick a snowball hero if you wana win faster.
>I love the meme that Dota 2 is always played robotically and optimally
You should not go in with the assumption that your enemies are retarded, that should be a pleasant surprise, not something you plan on happening every single match.
>ally picks some bad jungler like lc or ld
>forced to solo support
>instead just throw the match
Feels good making those shitters lose.
Calibration is always just a few hundred more or less than your unranked mmr
If supports are what you win games on, pick them, but if you're 2K unranked mmr and stomp all ten of your games you won't magically end up 4K
That jungle LC isn't 'le 150hp free kill' you retards keep going on about
If you have to rotate in just as much effort as it takes to gank an actual worthwhile target like mid, why the fuck are we even talking about it? In fact, going to that much trouble to kill a jungler is obviously stupid
LC isn't even remotely the most easily ganked jungler, Ursas and Bloodseekers are really low HP for the first few minutes and can't do shit about half the heroes that find them
Im 2k and support every time.
I have this problem where i will stack camps for my team, tell my team that there are stacks, but then my team will NEVER use those stacks, which end up in the enemy hands when they inevitably start ganking our jungle later in the game
is there any way to fix this? i heard that to get to 5k support you need to stack A LOT and i do it but my team doesnt take advantage of it.
He still does that shit, retard. They only made it so that his weaknesses now eclipse strengths and can't do anything in the laning phase unless he has an IV with bottle. So there's absolutely no reason to pick him over QoP or TA since the former does way more burst now with less mana problems and the latter can do stacks with more ease and less mana.
So now you have a garbage hero that has difficulty filling a niche role.
I'm not 1k, I'm saying it's possible that he's better than the people in his bracket, but plays in a way where his team doesn't react to his plays.
In your bracket, you will make plays and your team will know what you are doing and react accordingly. In his, nobody reacts to anything. He has to play high impact heroes instead of heroes that are reliant on his team for follow up.
Just like PSG who loses in 2k but wins easily in 3k.
Thanks Sun Tzu but I find that going in with the assumption that both your enemies and teammates are retarded is generally reliable and anything else is the pleasant surprise. Being overly cautious is just as game losing as being reckless.
there simply isn't enough teamwork in low mmr for a support to be optimal for MMR. if you are good at farming that skill will be wasted if you support. it is probably better to solo support than 5 carry but that's the only generalization I would make.
this TbH be honest.
You can only git gud when you're playing against your own mistakes, not the enemy's
He's actually retarded and wears a helmet off camera, but we already knew this.
Get gud, stop picking CuCks until your teammates are ready to sleep with the gpm that you gave up by picking a swedish hero
Gathered. Just want to reach 2k coulden't really care about grinding any further then that. Ive accepted im not going to be a top tier or pro any time soon, just 1k games are pure suffering, LP is more enjoyable then that shit.
there are a million ways to learn the game
the guide is a good place to start because it teaches you the basics and most of the dota terminology, so if you still have questions after reading the guide you know how to formulate your questions so the person you ask knows what you are asking and how to answer appropriately
Stop focusing on it so much, there's probably better things you could be doing.
Good supports stack WHILE being useful, don't just spend all your time stacking and expect to win games.
Also pick heroes that can take stacks themselves
Play a support that can clear stacks
Also keep in mind that some cores can't clear stacks very well and by stacking a camp you're making it unusable for them I've actually killed my cores by stacking too much
>LC isn't even remotely the most easily ganked jungler, Ursas and Bloodseekers are really low HP for the first few minutes
Ursa isn't low hp at all if you chokepoint and Blood has a free heal, Blood is either at full hp or at about half hp while he gets all the jungle creeps low.
However none of them should be jungled.
It's true that you can't wait for any help on 1k (even on 2k), but the enemy team is as fucked as you are.
If you are better than everyone else in the match chances are that you're going to win at least 8/10 games.
Believe in yourself, my man.
I climbed to F O U R T H O U S A N D all the way up from 1.7k, it's do-able.
It only took me 4 major patches, too.
When Icefraud stop with the meme aghs on every FUCKING HERO, i'm done, switching to lol
I was in your boat
you want your pub games to be like what happens at TI. that can't happen at low MMR.
just give up and pick a carry every game. I am currently climbing with frickin' Sniper because my MMR is so shit people don't pay attention to where the damage is coming from.
if you find blood in the middle of a camp you can literally oneshot him with most nukes thanks to bloodrage amp and him being at 40% hp
chokepoint jungling can be incredibly dangerous in places where you creep block yourself into trees
I maintain that LC is one of the safest shitty junglers out there
Get gud, your spirit animal hero and just go to fucking town.
Pic very related
Aether lens is fucking core on 80% of good heroes this patch, don't skip it
Also what >>127244613 said.
You can flame a bit, call people shitstains in all chat and use some humor, tac pauses etc, just don't go full EE and start feeding or go afk in the enemy jungle 50 minutes in.
>Calibration is always just a few hundred more or less than your unranked mmr
yes, but if he spends his time on his current account to get better at the game, and the make a new account and has more success in his games he'll calibrate at a higher mmr where people are more competent and he'll have the opportunity to climb from there
that opportunity doesn't exist at 1k
read what i wrote above
don't queue ranked anymore if you wanna climb, because it most likely won't happen, or it will take a million years
you'll be queued with, and up against consistent inconsistently bad players
if you play normal you have some chance of playing with decent players
just practice, ask someone to watch your replays and give you advice, then when you've improved you can make a new account and calibrate (hopefully) at a higher mmr
pick op heroes, get gud at them, destroy noobs, climb mmr
>When Icefraud stop with the meme aghs on every FUCKING HERO, i'm done, switching to lol
I love Valve's recent shitty balancing approach
>oh this hero isn't picked
>let's give it a (new) aghs upgrade, that should fix it!
>You can flame a bit, call people shitstains in all chat and use some humor, tac pauses
This shit is game losing
A lot of teammates are on the very fucking edge of tilting
If you're autistic enough that you have to expose people to CLQ-level comedy in allchat, go ahead but you're probably throwing games that way
Envy has like the worst game sense ever.
Why is his team even listening to him
Pick offlane Abbadon. Go 1-4-1 and then max out MIST COIL NOT YOUR FUCKING PASSIVE. Save your retard team mates but don't be afraid to wade into a teamfight if you have your ulti ready to go. Abuse the fact that more supports don't zone out offlaners properly. Learn how to pull from camps as an offlaner. Build psuedo-carry shit if you can get away with it (Phase, Drum if you get decent farm or fed otherwise get Urn, Vlads because you're going to be on a team with 4 other melee cores). Either transition into a semi-carry or buy utility shit like Halberd or Solar Crest.
Big thing - most teams will glance at an Abbadon going across the river to their side and not a give a fuck. Abuse this. You can get more farm from the enemy jungle if you play smartly and farm creeps. Always recognize scenarios where you can just TP out after they throw all their disables on you and trigger your passive.
>he doesn't like CLQ
Okay, well I got to 4k mmr anyway.
Only real bonafide government check-cashing autists can't tell the difference between bantz and serious anger management flaming.
They know he's a pro so they listen to him hoping he carries them. Reality is he's absolutely retarded and almost always throws the game. Either his team knows this and they do everything in their power to save his dumbass or they're blissfully ignorant and do their jobs better thanks to placebo thinking it's envy making the easy win happen.
2015 had so many good indie games, that included. I've been playing Nuclear Throne and fell in love with it.
Who do you think keeps a leash on that retarded weeb? Envy is not a leader but knows when to listen to a good one.
good captaining has that effect on shitters
>if you find blood in the middle of a camp you can literally oneshot him with most nukes thanks to bloodrage amp and him being at 40% hp
You don't use bloodrage until you have gotten the creeps low and plan to heal up.
>chokepoint jungling can be incredibly dangerous in places where you creep block yourself into trees
Not anymore dangerous than jungling in the first place.
>I maintain that LC is one of the safest shitty junglers out there
Shit with some sprinkles on top is still shit.
Ace attorney:Dual Destinies.
I think it was less than 5 years
>he unironically doesn't like 9gag
t. alberto barbosa
Stay 2k, my man.
Well it clearly killed someone, so no.
>This shit is game losing
It really shouldn't be.
If you get so upset over some random person calling you a retard or shitter you shouldn't even be playing MP games in the first place.
Especially since you have a mute button.
>You don't use bloodrage until you have gotten the creeps low and plan to heal up.
Then you'll be even lower hp for longer amounts of time than if you used bloodrage+talon to blow up the big creep
>Not anymore dangerous than jungling in the first place.
But LC doesn't have to do this to stay over 75% HP?
>Shit with some sprinkles on top is still shit.
Okay Reddit, we wouldn't even be having this conversation if you obvious Redditors would shit on jungling as a concept and not just 'le jungle commander' who is not even close to the worst of the bunch
Can someone please explain why people watch EE? Is he basically the new IdrA (people only watch to see him rage)?
>He doesn't go Silver Edge/Manta and wreck every tower in the game
>he doesn't like Memes, Maces, and Magic: Dragon edition
He likes anime and plays just like me
I stopped caring about winning or losing once I got to 4.5k and still got matched with subhumans.
Now I only care about having a good time. So if my allies decide I should have a miserable time solo supporting, espcially when they want to go something dumb like jungle LC, then I turn the tables and make the match miserable for them.
After all, they don't listen to reason or requests not to jungle, so the only thing left is to deter them from doing it since their allies could decide to throw at the picking stage when they do.
>drop some sick maymays in all chat
>autists come here and whine about other people having fun when they lose
>not being 100% savage 100% of the time
I just like him because he likes anime. I don't necessarily like the anime he likes
EE has decent taste. At the least he watches a lot of anime instead of simply being that one redditor who's seen 20 anime and then claims SnK/OPM is the greatest anime.
He also reads VNs, follows Comiket circles, so he's a pretty high tier weeb.
He's been to Japan/Akihabara several times too which is more than a lot of weebs can say.
That's because he's not the one calling the shots, it's puppey. EE is an amazingly good mechanical player. But that's about the extent of his skill. His decision making is absolutely piss poor. Like the game before right now he told his entire team not to engage with Radiant in the jungle, then he immediately jumps in. If I remember correctly his exact words were:
>Guys just chill.
>JUST CHILL... I'm going in
His quick change of mind is confusing as fuck if you're playing with him and gives little time for his team to react. Not only that, but he was actually losing that fight. His Magnus landed a really good RP and that won the fight. In fact now that I look back he was saved multiple times by his team force staffing him around because he would stupidly jump in with no real plan.
Decent doesn't win you LANs. Most pros have decent game sense, but what defines actual good captains are the ones who think ahead and keep their players in check. Most pubs don't have even decent captains so envy fills in the role good enough, but you still seem him feed because he doesn't have a real captain to tell him "Hey, you know your plan about jumping into their team just because you have a BKB now? Yeah don't do it, it's actually fucking retarded."
It's not my fault I'm playing like total garbage, it's my team's fault for not drafting around my autism and picking four buffers.
GOD STEAM MOBILE AUTHENTICATOR IS SUCH A PIECE OF FUCKING SHIT
they have completely ruined trading
im sure that was there fucking intention
fuck you Valve. you are making it very fucking hard to defend any longer you stupid sons of bitches.
>>I don't mind being treated like dirt so I'll treat others like dirt
Why should I care about the opinions and words of some random person in a videogame?
I will most likely never play with them again either.
>treated like dirt
No, you're being told to get gud from an objective point of view by someone would benefit from getting of said gud
Have you considered not being a trashcan before posting here?
Why the fuck would anyone want advice from a miserable person like you?
>Do whatever you want kid, I honestly couldn't care if you lose you games by being a huge tool. I'm simply calling all of you out for doing dumb shit.
They're the ones losing matches because of throwing over someone calling them retarded in a videogame.
>meet a qt in solo queue
>we synergise well and stomp the game the two of us
>has a qt avatar and types pretty qt-like
>add him after the game so we can duo queue together and do cute things
>ask him if he has a microphone
>he says yes but is very reluctant to use it for some reason
>pressure him into it
>"o-okay anon but I warned you.."
>it's a 14 year old swede kid
>he doesn't even sound cute. he just sounds like a kid.
>lost all interest in him but now he's all clingy towards me for some reason
>tfw don't know what to do with him
what should I do with him family
i want to just delete him but i don't want to be rude
>get suboptimal team (debatable)
>get even worse teams since your mmr is tanking
Meanwhile, everyone else moves on and are progressing at a faster rate, getting higher quality of games.
guys! purple time man is actually fun to play now and I can't stop picking him. wat do??
So you admit that being a tool makes people throw games, yet you continue to do it?
Enjoy the trashcan, son.
>better than me at dota
Not likely, certainly not in my bracket.
No, believing you're shit isn't the first step to growth, it's the first step to becoming a huge CuCk and not going anywhere.
If they're your teammates, then you're the one losing matches because of throwing over someone calling them retarded in a videogame.
I bet you're one of those tards that show us your 15 game losing streak and whine about shadow pool
>Daily reminder that your teammates don't need your advice and are likely slightly better than you in every aspect.
When I told my ally that picking Necro ancients with our lineup when we had no offlaner and the enemy had a BH and then explaining precisely what would happen (and then it all happened precisely as I explained to him) he was the one that was better than me when he started blaming everyone but himself for the massive shitfest the match turned into and then leaving.
You're right, he should've ignored my advice since doing the opposite lead to such a great outcome.
>tell someone they're shit
>it's suddenly your fault that they're losing the game for you
why are you measuring dicks in crystal maidens?
Yasp is so fucking god tier
>They're the ones losing matches because of throwing over someone calling them retarded in a videogame.
But you are losing at the same time you fuckface, how hard is it too understand.
>not fucking cherry harvesting on a fucking cherry plantation of shit players making shit mistakes
>>get suboptimal team (debatable)
Nothing debatable about it.
Also playing solo support is downright miserable if you're actually competent since it flat out neuters you and forces you into babysitting position while the team keeps flinging shit at you. It's not fun at all.
>get even worse teams since your mmr is tanking
I already told you I no longer care about winning or losing, but having a good time. Solo supporting jungling LC players is not a good time and they deserve the loss.
I saw no point in grinding mmr since my allies were still the same egocentric and stubborn baddies even at 4.5k mmr, which is supposed to be the very top percentage of the playerbase.
>EE picks ember
>goes 7-0-4 in the first 12 mins
Was it PA who was bad the whole time and not envy?
>So you admit that being a tool makes people throw games, yet you continue to do it?
Well I don't really care. I just think people are retarded for getting so upset to the point where they throw matches because someone called them names.
Why exactly should I care about winning or losing in this game? There is no point in getting good at this game, which is something I realized once I got good.
If you don't turn pro you're wasting your time and effort.
If only 10 guys will be playing dota in 10 years from now, or any shit copy that came out in all these years it won't be over, and I will be one of those guys in one of these teams.
>be on a fucking cherry planet made entirely of shit players
>get accused of cherry picking one situation where the shit players were shit
Soon police will be at your door.
Beware of your anus in jail.
>Yes I can honestly say that teammates questioning perfectly valid item choices is far more common than ancients necro
Every single match I play there are things my allies do that they should not be doing and no matter your reasoning, math or tone. They will ignore you 99% of the time.
>be inna cherry galaxy, part of the 2k mmr constellation "Gitguud"
>point out that 90% of the time your teammates are shit, and you're marginally less shit because you're at least aware of being said shit
>get arrested for cherry picking and sentenced to low priority for "toxicity"
There's no other way. You have to be rude.
Ancients necro doesn't work anymore.
>How is an ancients necro bad vs roaming BH?
>The necro can out manfight the BH at any point in the game
These are the people that try and give others advice on d2g.
I know that
But while i was doing it, i definately fucked up some retards who thought they could come manfight me lvl 1
If i saw a tryhard shitter picking BH to roam on me, I would start with sentrys anyways.
Usually did for dewarding purposes too.
>have infinite knowledge about dota 2
>always be right about everything
>be superior to 100% of the playerbase
>nobody listens to me
>stuck in 3K because always get teamed up with literal retards
DAE FEEL LIEK DIS?? omgggg upboat plx
Judging by your post it appears you don't have fun playing with, in your opinion, suboptimal picks. Lower mmr means more suboptimal picks (this is just a statistical fact) which directly translates to less fun for you. You're not fucking over the other guy, you're fucking over yourself.
Also by complaining about having to play a support you do sound like a massive 2k shitter. Good players find a way to win no matter what and non-teenagers understand that in the game of dota you need fill a role you dislike once in a while.
>have infinite knowledge about dota 2
>be always right about everything
>be superior to 100% of the playerbase
>use all this power to do nothing but
post dank webmemes
This is actually me, but I'm 4k and don't watch the japanese moving picture jew.
Maybe that's why you're still 3k, my dude.
>have infinite knowledge about LIFE
>always be right about everything
>be superior to 100% of MY PARENTS
>nobody listens to me
>GROUNDED in MY ROOM because always get BORN TO literal FASCISTS
>Judging by your post it appears you don't have fun playing with, in your opinion, suboptimal picks
You don't understand how hard a support is neutered when they're forced to solo support, especially if that hero isn't amongst the rare few like Lich.
There is 0 fun to be had while solo supporting when you're a competent player.
This doesn't have anything to do with a "suboptimal" lineup, which I have explained to your thick ass several times now.
>Also by complaining about having to play a support
Solo support. Learn to read you illiterate ape. My most played positions are 3-5.
>Good players find a way to win
Now even more shit I have told you several times... you're exceptionally good at not reading.
I no longer care about winning or losing. I don't feel like playing a non-fun match and breaking my balls just to carry some idiot that decides to make my experience miserable for his own ignorant, stubborn and selfish reasons.
There is no reason for me at all to carry him. None.
>threatening to leave
>not threatening to last pick random and then not help out in any way
Why does every 6k mmr player give advice that says to main a hero?
>Why does every 6k mmr player give advice that says to main a hero?
easiest way to gain MMR is to just outplay your enemy
that is achieved by spamming one hero and learning all the limits of it in unlike your opponent
this however does not mean you are truly good, just that you can spam one shit hero, almost every one hero player ive seen is a complete trash player in general
This is why the current implementation of party MMR is such a dogshit system. If this guy were to queue in a party the system would treat him as a 4.9k despite knowing full well that he's actually 6.2k.
>Your main hero gets balanced by Icefrog
HOLY FUCK OD IS FUCKING RETARDED THIS PATCH WHAT THE FUCK