Dota 2 General - /d2g/

/d2g/, who's your pet hero that you really want to work in pubs but they never do?

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nth for Traxex is the best waif/u/

>1 post early

Prepare to get nuked

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>>127233693
>>tfw no girly goblin prince hero
>>tfw no hero that personifies /cuteboys/
>or /pol/ for that matter

SJWs should do something good for once.

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>70% of the general is off topic shit posts
>lets delete a slightly early thread instead
>clearly an early thread is the bigger problem

mods are such fucking autists

>>127234098
LC

>People keep picking anti mage in my games
>24 minutes before he gets a manta, vlads, treads, bf
>In 12 minutes a jugg has midas, treads and S&Y and is ready to kill every building on the map
>In 4 more minutes he'll get a basher
>by 24 minutes he has a skadi

why do people keep playing AM?

>1 meme early

Dota 2 is a bad game.

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JEWSSSSSSSSSS

>mongoliaman building aghs just because there is PL on enemy team
shit like this is why you aren't considered part of scandinavia

>>127234170
70% of the thread are kids going through puberty and think memes are hilarious, especially if they're twitch related.

>>127234324
Ignore this.

why do people think huskar was even nerfed that much at all?
The MR change only matters vs very burst/nuke heavy lineups

>>127234324
Found the jungler

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Anyone want to trade the new compendium bundles that became tradable yesterday?

I have the Morphling, Windranger, Drow Ranger, Leshrac sets. Looking for Razor, Wraith King, Lina, Witch Doctor.

Add me: https://steamcommunity.com/id/btyme/

new bloom will have Invoker arcana that is simultaneously a genderswap arcana and loli hero arcana, also he will be revealed to have always been a girl, but changed form because of harassment

>Chrome reporting captcha is fucked for some reason
>Only in chrome, and only for reports
mooot

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sundering this cabal

with no survivors

>>127234524
>actually using Chrome

epic

>>127234430
>I have the shittiest sets worth the least on the market
>I want the better looking sets that are higher priced on the market.

>>127234524

Worked twice for me, maybe there will more stuff to test it on soon.

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...............Hey!

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6 jungle lc games
4 wins

>>127234679
>Not using chromium

>won a game with a 5k and 7k smurf(or so they claimed)
>was boring as fuck

I'm glad I wasn't on the receiving end, but god damn are such wins cheap. Sven probably wasn't, but the ursa was since he went 33/1/2.

>>127234735
>Not using Firefox

spectre is my favourite hero

>>127234729
>losing all your lanes

>>127234729
So what, anything fucking works in unranked 3k games. Go play Jungle Leshrac next you fucking moron.

>>127234767
please stop defending these blatantly off topic shitposts

>>127234584
>>127234406

>>127234802
I like having a browser that doesn't take 3 years to switch tabs and start up

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>>127234710

Hello

>>127234854
Stop using a computer from 2000.

So in a move to try and make myself play better, i've taken to whipping myself with a leather belt every time i lose. one lash for each MMR point lost. Anyway, just lost a game for 29 points. 29 lashes it is.

Just on my arm, nowhere too delicate. only, i'm typing this one handed right now because my arm is stinging and numb, and i think i broke the skin in a few places.

So, on reflection it might not be the best motivational strategy.

>>127234816
its 4k ranked tho

>>127234767
dude, its not dota related like at all. the whole point of this board is to discuss a single game in each general. there is no anime in dota. it is off topic. fucking deal with it


if you want to post anime do it in a general about an anime game

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>suomi vs. canada 5-5
what hero do I play to calm my nerves

>>127234997
Dotabuff link or nigger jungler confirmed

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Pit Lord when?

Wasn't he ready for TI5 for christ's sake

>>127234729
dotabuff

>>127234952
do what i do. push ups during the queue until the next game if you lose

>>127235141
not a bad idea honestly

>>127235124
>>127235105
http://www.dotabuff.com/players/32407029

>>127234997
>4k ranked
I can play 4k ranked while eatinga spaghetti meal and still win. 4k has Peru niggerfaggots in abundance.

>>127234952
Soon you'll be into BDSM you sick fuck.

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this slut currently has 900 viewers, surely there are some sad lonely beta bucks among them
what do u think her VIP sub benefits are?

>>127235250
>anime avatar

opinion discarded

>>127235108
for the ching chong ping pong event

i bet they'll do the portaling wc3 models into dota 2 models to pander to china

>>127235250
>3000 games played
>negative win rate

LMAO

>>127235250
>75 abandons,
>sub 50% win rate
>neet pandering avatar
>autism username

you're 4/4, good job, you deserve this reply

>>127235372
>>127235441
check out my phrophet hostory m8s you will like it

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want to focus on increasing my mmr this year, and im not that experienced in ranked. Starting at 1.6k what heroes would you recommend I learn to play so I can carry the team if someone picks mid

>>127235495
personally i think he's still pretty strong if you just go acid/stun and get greevils lategame, or go 2-1-1 / 1-2-1

he can also support kinda

>>127235250
Carried in every single game, you could be on jungle tidehunter and received the same results.

>>127235597
you could try spamming offlane heroes. I have no idea how bad 1,6k is ,but i'm sure you can work on last hitting,buying bkb and remembering all your active items and easily climb 1k mmr in a month

I AM A CHAMPION

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>>127235772
Yea I've been watching my replays and have started always carrying TP scrolls and buying the wards because no one else does it. Just that with the support heroes I play it can be hard to carry if I have a nonce on my team that won't cooperate - so what offlane heroes would you recommend?

>>127235597
>I can carry the team

bad mindset to get into, youre 1.6k, youre not better than your 1.6k teammates so it makes no real difference whos carrying

just work on everything, one small thing at a time

last hitting, remembering active items, stacking jungle camps while moving around the map etc

a reminder that the meta has not changed in over a year and that meme mids are the only thing that matters in this game

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So I started yesterday playing DotA 2, and so far I've tried Arc Warden and Witch Doctor. I didn't find AW to be too new player friends but WD seems fine to learn for a beginner.

Any other heroes you would recommend for a beginner?

>>127235597
>1.6k
oh my god just make a new account

>>127236128
wraith king
venomancer
lich
sven
bounty hunter
clockwerk
vengeful spirit

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>>127236232

That's a big list. Are these in any particular order of which I should learn first?

>>127236128
go ask this on reddit, seriously. 90% of this general is terrible and will give you awful advice. the people on reddit are much higher skill and can help you grow as a player much faster

>>127236128
Play wraithking till you are 4k mmr. Playing the same hero again and again will make you improve.

>>127236297
by role:

>carry
wraith king
sven

>support
venomancer
lich
vengeful spirit

>offlane/position 3
bounty hunter
clockwerk

hope this makes the list easier to digest. just look at their skills and decide if you like any of them

also >>127236310, seriously. you will learn much faster from reddit than from us

>>127235907
dirge,lich(you'll probably outlevel everyone one if you play it right), spirit breaker

>>127236128
m8, you see the bit in the OP 'new players'?
that shits there for a reason

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>>127236310

I don't have a Reddit account.

>>127236337

Ok will do. I don't know what MMR is but it sounds like ranked?

>>127236392

Alright. I think I like support the most but I'll try Wraith King first and see if I like him.

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>>127236479
>people actually reading the OP

half that shit in there is outdated as fuck

>>127236495
you can make a reddit account in 2 seconds

>>127236495
it takes like 2 minutes to make a reddit account and spending that two minutes registering will save you tons of time when you actually learn useful shit instead of spending your time here arguing about what jungle hero you should pick in your 1k mmr games

>>127236495
Yeah it's ranked. Supports like lion and lina are also good. Lich is very easy and does a lot of damage so you should try him after wraith king. You're only gonna have fun for 200 hours after which you will get addicted and no longer enjoy this game.

>Vici can't even beat Newbee/CDEC.Youth or win tier 2 Chinese tournaments
You CAN'T make this shit up.

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>>127236128
It depends weither Supporting or Carrying turns out to be more satisfying

Just go with bots and try heroes, you'll find which ones that you can use easily; all the heroes are avaiable, go nuts

>>127236884
>a tier 3 team cant beat tier 2 teams

how is that surprising

Was 2016 the worst year for Dota so far?

>>127236495
You'll get advice here, but the general has gone to shit a while ago. Basically 1% great stuff and 99% attention whores/shitposts.

Reddit isn't much better. It's more or less the same. If you're actually totally new you should google purges guide called "welcome to dota, you suck".

Just remember in most games no one will want to support/buy wards/pay attention to the mini map/carry a tp.

>>127236392
>vengeful spirit
>support
Loving this meme m80

>>127236674
>>127236690
based reddit spies at it again

>>127237025
>Reddit isn't much better
This is the truth. The most hospitable place I found when I started was Facepunch

>>127237027
how about you suck my magnum dong buddy

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>>127235250
>Wow I'm so good!
>I just hope nobody enters the jungle

>>127236495
This is a bad game. The developer is not interested in balance. Don't play it please.

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>>127237038
i mean honestly its a no brainer that if you want to get better you should post and lurk on reddit

if you honestly think this general will teach you anything and that 90% of the posters are not 2k you might be retarded.

i mean shit, all the pros post on reddit, when was the last time anyone important posted here? oh ya, never

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>>127237025
>If you're actually totally new you should google purges guide called "welcome to dota, you suck".

That one is fucking terrible.

Hello?

>>127237273
>pros attentionwhoring
YOU DON'T SAY
So, is Twitter also a good place to learn dota?

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>>127237273
>when was the last time anyone important posted here?
I post here though

>>127237342
u wot m8

>>127237383
hey

>>127237415
Who's the qt m8

>>127237397
yes, on twitter you can find links to pro streams, guides, and generally learn the thought process of pro players who are 90000x better than the third world retard trying too force shitty memes here

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>>127237342

>>127237483
That's me!

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>>127237273
I post here

>>127237568
I still dont get this webm

>>127237608
You're cute

>>127237652
Thanks :3

>>127237647
theyre playing mafia

>>127237273
Comments on both sites are shit. Absolute, unending waves of shit. Here due to anonymity people just try to rile people up with various crap, while reddits upvote system creates a mild hivemind.

Who gives a shit if pros have reddit accounts? When was the last time pros posted insightful replies in regards to gameplay? Only thing they do is participate in pathetic attempts at drama. Usually not even that if they're smart.

Both sites have a majority of posters who are 2k. Both sites post awful advice about pretty much everything in most cases.

I'm not defending this hellhole, or shitting on reddit, but the fact of the mater is that both sites are horrible if you want to learn dota, have extremely similar userbases and it would be for the best if they were both nuked and we started over.

>>127237513
The master memers are redditors
Remember the /vg/ torunament?

So why exactly do people think 1 million dollars business loan is some insanely large/abnormal thing.

>>127237832
Dota 2 General

>>127237759
I know they are but i ment in the connection with the filename

>>127237832
dota 2

>>127237796
>/vg/ masters

probably the most irrelevant thing ever

>>127237215
>getting this low as jungle LC

How can people be this bad at jungling

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>>127237273
no one on reddit will tell you how good jungle lc really is

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What's the best hard carry for gitting gud?

I will have the Rocky theme playing on repeat the entire time

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>>127237025
>>127236310

>people unironically recommend leddit

What the fuck is wrong if you guys?

>>127237273
>i mean honestly its a no brainer that if you want to get better you should post and lurk on reddit

No, reddit is consistently terrible and wrong and have a tendency to downvote people that post factually correct information.

Skill and knowledge wise reddit is just as bad as d2g. This is because most people that play Dota re in fact terrible at it (a very small percentage even play at VHS, which is at anything above 3700 mmr).

>>127237215
lmao you must be fucking retarded

what's the avg price of PA arcana in csgo keys?

i looked around and it seemed like people paid 9k for lv1 and that's the one i want, but i'm offering 9k and nobody is answering

>>127238286
andy maga

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>>127236674
>>127236690

Yeah but I don't like Reddit. I prefer 4chan as I've been posting here since 2005.

>>127236720
Okay. I tried ranked in LoL a while ago but it was frustrating. I imagine it's the same thing with DotA?

>>127236919
>>127237025

Alright. I don't mind supporting. It's what I'm used to in all of the co-op games I've played.

So I tried Wraith King and I guess I didn't do so bad for my first time? The Broodmother player seemed to know what they were doing so I guess there's that. I'll try Wraith King again since he seems pretty simple.

>>127238118
>minimap

LOSING ALL LANES

How do I Viper? Aquila, treads, wand, mek, and dragon lance I think are all pretty much core on him but what do I go after that? Is Shivas a thing on this fag?

>>127237442
It is. It is bad for new players in numerous ways and gives them the compelte wrong mindset.

>>127238286
All of them.
There is no dedicated best hard carry, all do different things and work against different matchups.

AM is generally the best for learning but you lean more towards a splitpusher than a carry for the most part. He teaches you tread switching if nothing else.

>>127238389
HAHAHAHA what the fuck

what the fuck is that scoreboard dude holy shit

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>>127237215
hey man did you download my replay?

why can't LC be a good hero? or at least fun?

>>127238324
this general has be come so shit over the last year that reddit is unironically a much better alternative

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>>127238389
>Bots
Please just play normal games and accept that you're going to lose trying new things out for a couple of games, people who bitch about winrate aren't ever going to win an international tournament anyways so who gives a fuck.

>>127238118
>jungle lc
>that skillbuild
>talon
>even uses a dogshit set

>>127238508
idk about "good" but she's boring as fuck

wow i wonder what i'm gonna do this game

am i gonna farm into a blink, blink duel, right click my opponent and use my buffs off cd? you bet!!!

>>127238449
>Dragon Lance

Get agh's you fuck. MKB if you want damage

>>127238449
viper is the most straight forward hero like ever dude, if you really dont know how to play him you are fucking stupid and should uninstall dota forever before you forced 50 your team

>>127238508
She is good and she is fun, but she's a flood or drought style hero. She's really hard to make a comeback with because she relies entirely on winning lane hard and getting a duel or two won in the process, and using that momentum to snowball out of control and keep winning duels until she's got 200 bonus damage then she just walks up and three hits all the towers with her 5k health pool and skull basher.

>>127238324
i sure as fuck didn't support reddit, only thing it has that makes it slightly better is a lack of attention whore making pathetic attempts at erp

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>>127238286
Right now I feel like the most reliable and self-sufficient hard carry is Ember Spirit
Juggernaut is good if you want something easier to play
They are both carries who can fight early, split push and bail themselves out

>>127238478
fuck off sjw

Dota 2 is a bad game.

>>127238478
>new players should feel like they're great at the game
fuck off.
The first step to gitting gud is realizing you're shit.

>>127238698
i was thinking of just autistically spamming jugg for a game or ten just because he's the coolest hero in dota 2

>>127238506
>Winning against retards that don't even check the jungle for a FREE kill
Your point?

ARTEEZY is considered best player for the whole year by many PROS, with him secret was considered one of the best or the best team in history of dota and dominate other top tier teams like they are tier 2 until their crumble with conflict in TI5, and even when he goes back to EG, EG is still one of the best team, and may be the best if they figure out the sumail+rtz team work and win SHANGHAI MAJOR. Look at the whole year of 2015, i dont see any carry is better in term of performance + results as RTZ, FEAR also deserve to win coz he won TI5 and DAC, but there is a reason FEAR chose to be supporter to give RTZ the CARRY role in EG even after he won TI5.

>>127238723
All video games are trash. I only play this shitty game because I have a fetish for raging russian voices

>>127238716
>one of the people that consistently is vocally about the recent retarded censorship rules
>argued for years with extremist feminists
>a sjw

Your powers of deduction is unparalleled.

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>>127238762
>Only 10
I'm 2k trash and I've played more games on a hero

>>127238597
Yeah, you're totally filtered

>>127234164
MY DICK

https://youtu.be/yp36KgB6TPI
give this a funny dota-related filename

>>127238834
you're trash

>>127238756
>>new players should feel like they're great at the game

No retard.
Giving them the mindset that "It's ok to be shit since I'm supposed to be anyway!" or painting a shitty picture of the game over actually teaching them something useful is worse than shit, it's detrimental to the learning process.

Pointing new players to that "guide" is a fucking terrible idea.

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thank you based mods

>>127238868
kill yourself g00bergator

>>127238775
the list of heroes who can "freekill" a lc in jungle is miniscule


most heros are either slower or cant fight her at all or both

>>127238868
Can you fuck off with your gooberbabber shit

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>buying a blink on LC when shadow blade into silver edge is objectively better

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>>127239081
Amount of heroes that CAN'T kill a hero with very low HP, no mana, no boots and no items: ???

Offlane enchantress is so good with the new map lmao

You win against entire trilanes with that extra camp by the offlane

>>127239257
both are situational

>>127239284
1 crystal maiden

>>127239308
>skilling enchant on off lane enchantress

>>127239081
Same thing applies to Lone Druid Jungle right now.

It is actually faster to jungle w/ an Iron Talon + 2x clarities than it is to lane if you can't get solo experience.

>>127238834
>someone calls your worthless moba for what it is
>deflect with "a-all videogames are bad anyway"
10 apm at reading 10 apm at life

>>127239257
I dont know senpai. How do I use press the attack with shadow blade?

>>127239340
lol,frostbite+2 attacks and lc is dead

>>127239081
the list of 2 hero combos that can do it is pretty high though

>>127239257
>>buying a blink on LC when shadow blade into silver edge is objectively better

Blink is almost always better yet you fail to understand why. This is because you don't even understand the purpose of each of those items, nor how LC should play.

>EE still spamming PA

it was funny the first few days but holy shit how the fuck can this dude stand to play so much PA?

>>127239340
You probably play a hella shitty cm then m8

>>127239418
You have 10 seconds to name a good video game released in the past 5 years

>>127239371
I'm sure your untouchable lvl 1 will help you when you get zoned out by skywrath mage or any stun+jug combo in a trilane

>>127239081
Can confirm
Have tried to solokill jungle LCs many times and she can just dispel whatever and run off

>>127239519
i played morphling 100 games in a row when I first started in 2012

>>127239519
people don't call him eternal autism as a joke m8

>>127239418
>life
>good

>>127239371
>not wanting a cheap slow and free wards every 30s for a single point

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>>127239308
>You win against entire trilanes with that extra camp by the offlane

Winning against subhumans with dogshit heroes and they don't even trilane properly? What an achievement.

>>127239284
you cant jungle her for shit.

you dont even belong in this discussion since you apparently suck at this game and basic mechanics

>>127239024
>getting this triggered over a fucking TITLE
did you even read it, actually?
besides, the reason why purge shouldnt be advertised is because he killed 3 damage types

>>127239468
>>127239531
How is she gonna catch up to 320 ms lc with 280 ms

>>127239627
yes but morphling has more than 2 actives

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When will morphling be buffed

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>I buy Aether lens over Euls.

>>127239705
>Winning
Look at this beta mongoloid who needs an artificial rush of endorphins from staring at a computer screen until it arranges the correct set up colors and patterns on its lcd display.

>>127239752
preferably with brown boots or frost blast

>>127239583
if you are picking off lance enchantress into a lane where there is magic damage spam you are beyond stupid

>>127239581
magicka
wait, it came out in 2011
fuck

>>127239484
shut the fuck up you nigga

go gank her with 3 heroes and a smoke and keep crying that your safelanes loses at the same time


you cant have your cake and eat it too

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This is objectively the best banner

Prove me wrong

>>127239768
i attribute that for being the only reason that i was calibrated at 2800MMR when ranked came out

strength morph is stupid overpowered versus players with zero brains, you just do stupid shit, get free kills, strength morph and walk away. that was like 90% of my games as him.

i have over 4900 hours and i'm still stuck in 3.5K hell, maybe i need to revisit morphling now that my farm is way more consistent (600gpm on average).

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>tfw no adelaide

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Fuck trees
I hate trees
Everyone hates trees
Tangos can plant happy trees
FUCK happy trees
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONvrntzTpj4

>>127239845
>lcdcuck
cathode ray tube monitor masterrace

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>>127239919
>not this one

>>127239891
>you need 3 heroes to gank someone with 110 hp and no mana in jungle

ok

but

no

>>127239983
>tfw no adelaide gf

>>127239752
?
By ganking at night, abusing the fog and perhaps even using a smoke?

>>127239581
>You have 10 seconds to name a good video game released in the past 5 years

There have been good games released every single year.

But I guess games like GTA5, Rayman Legends, XCOM, Metro, etc. were shit.

>>127239827
LITERALLY an item for supports who make arcanes and need something to do with the energy booster later in the game

>>127238661
LC is completely dogshit nullified by a good number of pics and the only reason anybody even tries to make her work is because "muh qt brown tough waify XD"

>>127240064
>110 hp

you dont deserve the you but here you have it

>>127239812
he doesn't need one. he's still an incredibly powerful hero that pretty much shit-stomps the fuck out of any low-skill MMR. just because he isn't the best carry, doesn't mean he's shit.

if the meta ever shifts back to rice meta, he will be considered an OP beast of a hero.

arguably, he's OP right now because they reduced the manacost on Ethereal Blade which was one of the huge nerfs to him back in 2012.

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SECRET WILL NEVER LOSE A SERIES TO EG

>>127239746
>did you even read it, actually?

Yes. When I started out years ago and then recently again.
It's fucking garbage. Only bad players recommend and people that haven't read it recommend it.

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>>127239734
>you cant jungle her for shit.
That's exactly what I'm saying

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>bots jugg splitpushing
>dying everytime we leave our base
>yolo naix and storm think they can 2v5
>mid rax lost, about to lose our other sets of rax
>kill 3 of them
>push back mid
>jugg bb
>kill him again
>t4 gg push and win

is there anything abaddon can't do?
i just went aghs and greaves and spamhealed and shielded my teammates when they got focused and we just won by outlasting them

15k hero damage and 8.5k healing
even when it looks like an obvious loss you still win

>>127240242
How do we know you're not the bad player here?

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>>127240161
How do you play him then? You can't afk farm anymore

>>127239468
Frostbite can be immediately dispelled with press the attack
Also a LC who then mans the fuck up can solokill CM easily

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>>127240256
>Blacking out your name
lol

>>127240256
>ahead for most of the game
>win

woah :-O

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>tfw you'll never be as based as James

>>127240347
the way i've always played him, you're supposed to play stupidly aggressive and bait people into feeding you by playing dangerously and punishing them with waveform.

you need to know how to manage your mana well.

>>127240256
That is 100% a jungle LC

i tell you what about free losses

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>>127240394
>I can dispell it with PtA
>I-If I HAD the mana....

>>127240394
Or you could just lead in with crystal nova then wait for PTA till you Frostbite?

Also bear in fact that this is time that your LC isn't spending farming, which is the entire reason she's supposed to be there in the first place

>>127240729
t. 2k redditposter

>>127240545
we got a lot of kills at the end of the laning phase, then we started falling behind when they picked off cm, naix and storm when they were in the jungle
we also lost a few teamfights towards the end, at the same time they were starting to take our top and bot barracks
in terms of stats we were ahead, but we were in reality starting to crumble - which was the point when i rushed greaves and just stayed back keeping my team alive in duels and shit

>>127240482
i like to post here, but i don't want to be recognized so i'll get filtered everytime i post like you will

>>127240847
>Also bear in fact that this is the time where your safelane isnt losing
which is what all you faggots cry about.

also who is posting these low hp memes?

the only camp that actually causes LC to lose hp is the big centaur camp everything else HEALS you when chokepointing

Hello lads. Can somebody link me that webm of sheever and a bunch of other female casters dancing? It's for a friend who wants to see it.

>>127240482
>using a tripcode
lol

>>127240729
i don't think it made a difference that he was jungling, because they would stampede and lc, rubick and jugg would try to get a gank on me
but after the first time i just stayed back and tried to get a few last hits with coil

>>127240965
subscribed :)

>>127240782
That happens sometimes. The later you attempt the gank, the less likely it becomes though. As a CM, going for the dogshit jungler usually isn't my top priority.

>>127240847
low level crystal nova doesn't do that much, yes maybe it will spook a bad LC into wasting PTA but probably not

Note that circumstances have to be absolutely perfect to solokill a jungling LC and I have seen PLENTY of LCs that can jungle without getting lower than 75% hp

>envy playing DK Country music

Nice.

>>127240996
>also who is posting these low hp memes?

I've hated junglers forever but as soon as 'jungle LC is always bad' started becoming popular on Reddit I knew that /d2g/ shitters were going to start spamming it with their 2K understanding of the game

It's bad but people can and do get away with it all the fucking time even at higher MMRs
And most junglers are bad but there are plenty that actually do know what they're doing
Your average /d2g/ shitter probably auto-throws the moment they see jungle LC "see I knew we would lose"

>>127240145
>hero has counters
Wow say it ain't so.
Guess AM is trash because Shadow Shaman can stun him for 7 seconds completely nullifying his blink.

>>127241324
>watching doturd when Dad is streaming

>>127240325
>How do we know you're not the bad player here?

Because I'm not. I'm well aware of my own skill level and I consistently correct people and I'm right about pretty much everything I say since I don't make bold statements without proper backing.

But by all means, tell me why the purge guide is so amazing.

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>>127241796
>I'm well aware of my own skill level and I consistently correct people and I'm right about pretty much everything I say since I don't make bold statements without proper backing.

>>127241796
You were the one to first start making claims here anon, the burden of proof is on you

>>127241719
I was only watching envy since he's the only relevant pro player besides ppd playing right now, but ppd is actually good so his stream isn't that entertaining. Watching envy be a retard and showing just how hard he gets carried by his team is fun to watch.

>when Dad is streaming
And who's that?

>>127240394
>Also a LC who then mans the fuck up can solokill CM easily

Why do you think the support goes 1v1? Do you think Dota is some gentlemans sport?

Are you one of those people that type
>it took 2/3 of you to kill me, haha!

All it takes is a CM and a rotating BH or something for you get your ass raped.

>/d2g/ doesnt like kotlguy

>>127241796
>me ooga purge booga

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>>127241480
>It's bad but people can and do get away with it all the fucking time even at higher MMRs

Even if the LC players gets carried by their team that doesn't change the fact that you're being a massive cunt to the rest of your team.

Any idea how utterly painful it is for a solo support in those matches because your retarded ass 4th or 5th pick jungle LC?

>>127242053
I love when armchair shitters just keep continually altering the scenario

>b-b-but you had a bounty hunter all along!
>and you were smoked
>also CM picked up a haste rune
>a-and the clockwerk on their team helped out with a flare from offlane!

>>127241796
are you the guy who want apeshit about the purge guide a week back?

here's one reason why the purge guide might be considered good
it contains a lot of indepth information about the game that's not common knowledge to low and even a lot of medium skilled players
to a bitter know-it-all like you it offers nothing, but it's not supposed to, so no one is really bothered by your opinion on it

thx

>>127241719
THIS USED TO BE A FORSEN STREAM FeelsBadMan THIS USED TO BE A FORSEN STREAM FeelsBadMan THIS USED TO BE A FORSEN STREAM FeelsBadMan

>>127241976
>You were the one to first start making claims here anon, the burden of proof is on you

I already did provide arguments which have yet to be countered.

If I examine purge's guide in detail and write several paragraphs on it it will just be ignored or handwaved away. I know how the people here work because I have done stuff like this several times before for the exact same result.

So please go suck Purge's dick elsewhere.

>>127242035
how NEW are you?!??!

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1k shitter
>entire team composes of meme-spamming buzzword abusing fucks who screech in chat like retards
>no matter how much "You are the only constant" applies you will still lose if a single person fucks up.

sometimes I wonder why I even play this game.

>>127242235
>It's ok for me to set up the scenario but you can't do it

>>127242362
fuck off PSG
suck on my knot

>>127242235
>I love when armchair shitters just keep continually altering the scenario

There is nothing to alter. If you think a CM is a hero that runs around and solo ganks heroes early game you're beyond retarded.
Point being that ganking an LC in the jungle is not difficult. Some heroes can do it solo, others might need an additional hero with them. However that doesn't change the fact that number advantage during a gank is standard.

>Insult Purge's guide
>get a billion free (You)'s
I love purge really

>>127242115
i wouldn't ask him for game related advice, but he's funnylooking and can handle the bantz
it's okay to have someone to lighten the mood when there's nothing exciting going on ingame

Holy shit why is everyone so terrible in ranked RD? It's like almost everyone knows how to play exactly one hero even though there's almost a 50% chance of having one hero that they want.

>>127242228
Spare me your redditizing, Redditor

Jungle LC is situational and can work great provided the player isn't dogshit, which they often are. And the enemy supports aren't fantastic, which they rarely are.

What part of "I've hated junglers forever" do you not understand? I never jungle and frequently play solo support.

You stupid redditors think you've made some amazing understanding about lane dynamics but its old news to any seasoned player and we know how to work around it. Jungle LC has been a fucking plague for centuries so it's just laughable that only now are some people spamming about it.

>>127242250
>are you the guy who want apeshit about the purge guide a week back?

The fuck are you talking about?

>it contains a lot of indepth information about the game that's not common knowledge to low and even a lot of medium skilled players

Funny, mind giving examples because I sure as fuck don't recall that.

>>127242413
I'm a 2K player and I'm damn well sure I could carry every single 1K game
source: I'm not 1K

git gud

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>>127242375
NEW enough to not know ?!??! is the new meme of 2016.

>>127242413
it's 1k
1k is a meme
no one wants to take the game seriously, people even pay money for 1k accounts to see what kind of madness goes on in the deepest trench
play normal, practice, recalibrate
you're wasting your time in 1k if you wanna climb

>>127242437
>>127242527
We've been talking about solo killing LC
Yes you can 2-man gank her with smoke if you really really want her dead but that takes a significant more amount of investment and coordination that aren't always available in a pub

>b-b-but what kind of dogshit bracket are you in where people don't 2-man gank

The dogshit bracket with jungle LCs which is all of them you fucking retard

>>127242529
Purge isn't even a good or knowledgeable player so I don't know why you would listen to his advice anyway.

>>127242745
Players in 1k are actually very inconsistent. Sometimes you have good players who know what they're doing, sometimes you have peruvians who feed. People are there mostly because they give up and not because they are bad.

>>127242543
>Holy shit why is everyone so terrible in ranked RD? It's like almost everyone knows how to play exactly one hero even though there's almost a 50% chance of having one hero that they want.

People have stuck to AP for fucking ages.
I have 2000 something ordinary RD matches, which makes up about 50% of all of my matches. Most players do not have a 50% RD match count.

>>127242932
>32 ▶
>>127242745
> Players in 1k are actually very inconsistent. Sometimes you have good players who know what they're doing
>1k

No, you don't.
Source: My friend is a 1k player and sometimes I play on his account for fun and I always win easily even though I'm a 3k shitter because no one else know how to play the game.

>>127242683
>git gud
>as a solo support
it aint going to happen.
I get the most assists and fewest deaths of the team on average. occasionally couple of games where I fucked up and those i fully accept as my fault.
but every fucking game there is that one core who suicide dives and whines the entire team wernt there to help. in caps lock
>>127242745
tips for recalibration?

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Why the fuck did frosty toad nerf SF? Because he was picked frequently? The hero was balanced and wasn't even picked until that goddamn euls blink build came into fruition earlier this year around DAC.

Now he is complete garbage unless you have the easiest midlane of your life.

>>127242563
>Jungle LC is situational and can work great provided the player isn't dogshit, which they often are. And the enemy supports aren't fantastic, which they rarely are.

It isn't shit if
>A
Your team has strong laning heroes and they don't suck
and
>B
The enemy was weak laners, bad players and play passively.

It isn't situationally good, it can just situationally work for entirely the wrong reasons.

>>127242668
>The fuck are you talking about?
i had the same kind of discussion a week back, i was asking if it was the same person

>I sure as fuck don't recall that
of course you don't because it doesn't apply to you
i'm not even gonna bother going through the guide to handpick examples, because it's just that fucking obvious that if you don't realize the value the guide has to low-medium players then you need to check yourself

nigga

>>127242563
>Jungle LC has been a fucking plague for centuries so it's just laughable that only now are some people spamming about it.

I have told people this has been shit for years and not just about LC.
No idea why you bring reddit into this. If that is something they're posting about now then maybe you should stick to reddit then since you seem to know so much about them.

>>127243116
>the mid hero that every team WILL pick first phase if you give them the chance, will deal tons of damage at every stage of the game and can farm quickly is balanced
-buttmad SF main

>>127243079
There are things you take for granted that help you win in your bracket that don't happen in 1k, for example people who know when to push, when to smoke gank, when to rotate or TP or rosh, having heroes which synergize with each other, etc.

Every game will go to 50 minutes because there is no coordination and that's what makes it hard to win.

>>127242543
Players who queue up for meme mods like RD are either pretentious fucks who overrate themselves, or they play it because they're not particularly good with any hero

>>127243131
Pub Dota 2 is a game about two things. Morale and getting away with being greedy.
I love the meme that Dota 2 is always played robotically and optimally, it's really funny next to all the posts about how teammates continuously do retarded game losing shit

>>127242818
>We've been talking about solo killing LC

Yes and many heroes can do this. Some can't. What is your point? That LC is ungankable?

>>127243110
>tips for recalibration?
yeah, learn to master easy pubstomping heroes
some recommendations:
viper
abaddon
bristleback
necrophos

>>127243246
>of course you don't because it doesn't apply to you

Picking up on the stuff you implied is easy, especially if you can actually play the game.

The guide is constantly recommended because no one knows of any other guide than that trash shitfest writeup.

>>127243351
That's because you're also 1k (it's fine, but if you want to get better you should stop complaining about your teammates and git gud).
You can always pick a snowball hero if you wana win faster.

>>127243357
>I love the meme that Dota 2 is always played robotically and optimally

You should not go in with the assumption that your enemies are retarded, that should be a pleasant surprise, not something you plan on happening every single match.

>>127243540
any supports that are good for recalibration or are the supports just doomed from the start

>>127242683
>2k player
>saying git gud

You should git gud m8

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>ally picks some bad jungler like lc or ld
>forced to solo support
>instead just throw the match

Feels good making those shitters lose.

>>127243707
Calibration is always just a few hundred more or less than your unranked mmr

If supports are what you win games on, pick them, but if you're 2K unranked mmr and stomp all ten of your games you won't magically end up 4K

>>127243393
That jungle LC isn't 'le 150hp free kill' you retards keep going on about

If you have to rotate in just as much effort as it takes to gank an actual worthwhile target like mid, why the fuck are we even talking about it? In fact, going to that much trouble to kill a jungler is obviously stupid

LC isn't even remotely the most easily ganked jungler, Ursas and Bloodseekers are really low HP for the first few minutes and can't do shit about half the heroes that find them

u fucking 4k shitstains should be glad you'll never meet me irl

>Envy getting Phase every game on PA

why.jpg

in 1k you just pick slark mid and win every game

Im 2k and support every time.

I have this problem where i will stack camps for my team, tell my team that there are stacks, but then my team will NEVER use those stacks, which end up in the enemy hands when they inevitably start ganking our jungle later in the game

is there any way to fix this? i heard that to get to 5k support you need to stack A LOT and i do it but my team doesnt take advantage of it.

>>127243323
He still does that shit, retard. They only made it so that his weaknesses now eclipse strengths and can't do anything in the laning phase unless he has an IV with bottle. So there's absolutely no reason to pick him over QoP or TA since the former does way more burst now with less mana problems and the latter can do stacks with more ease and less mana.

So now you have a garbage hero that has difficulty filling a niche role.

>>127243624
I'm not 1k, I'm saying it's possible that he's better than the people in his bracket, but plays in a way where his team doesn't react to his plays.

In your bracket, you will make plays and your team will know what you are doing and react accordingly. In his, nobody reacts to anything. He has to play high impact heroes instead of heroes that are reliant on his team for follow up.

Just like PSG who loses in 2k but wins easily in 3k.

>>127243870
You. I like you.
Fuck those LC jungle pickers.
Yesterday I had a fucking Tinker in the jungle and I carried him to the victory, I wish I didn't

>>127243697
Thanks Sun Tzu but I find that going in with the assumption that both your enemies and teammates are retarded is generally reliable and anything else is the pleasant surprise. Being overly cautious is just as game losing as being reckless.

>>127243707
there simply isn't enough teamwork in low mmr for a support to be optimal for MMR. if you are good at farming that skill will be wasted if you support. it is probably better to solo support than 5 carry but that's the only generalization I would make.

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>>127243697
this TbH be honest.
You can only git gud when you're playing against your own mistakes, not the enemy's
>>127243921
He's actually retarded and wears a helmet off camera, but we already knew this.
>>127243998
Get gud, stop picking CuCks until your teammates are ready to sleep with the gpm that you gave up by picking a swedish hero

>>127243875
Gathered. Just want to reach 2k coulden't really care about grinding any further then that. Ive accepted im not going to be a top tier or pro any time soon, just 1k games are pure suffering, LP is more enjoyable then that shit.

>>127243570
there are a million ways to learn the game
the guide is a good place to start because it teaches you the basics and most of the dota terminology, so if you still have questions after reading the guide you know how to formulate your questions so the person you ask knows what you are asking and how to answer appropriately

>>127243998
Stop focusing on it so much, there's probably better things you could be doing.
Good supports stack WHILE being useful, don't just spend all your time stacking and expect to win games.
Also pick heroes that can take stacks themselves

>>127243998
Play a support that can clear stacks

Also keep in mind that some cores can't clear stacks very well and by stacking a camp you're making it unusable for them
I've actually killed my cores by stacking too much

>>127243882
>LC isn't even remotely the most easily ganked jungler, Ursas and Bloodseekers are really low HP for the first few minutes

Ursa isn't low hp at all if you chokepoint and Blood has a free heal, Blood is either at full hp or at about half hp while he gets all the jungle creeps low.

However none of them should be jungled.

>>127244052
It's true that you can't wait for any help on 1k (even on 2k), but the enemy team is as fucked as you are.
If you are better than everyone else in the match chances are that you're going to win at least 8/10 games.

>>127244167
you can bet he's doing "wtf are these guys doing here? I give up!!"

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>>127244181
Believe in yourself, my man.
I climbed to F O U R T H O U S A N D all the way up from 1.7k, it's do-able.
It only took me 4 major patches, too.

>>127243998

Play the things that work on your mmr not on the mmr you aim to achieve. Pick some stuns and kill the enemy laner.

>>127244391
What advice to get out of 3k bracket aside from not being a retard?

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>>127239812
When Icefraud stop with the meme aghs on every FUCKING HERO, i'm done, switching to lol

>>127244391
Climbing is easy if you're just determined and never throw or flame (since some of your allies will be pussies that break apart easily).

>>127243998
I was in your boat

you want your pub games to be like what happens at TI. that can't happen at low MMR.

just give up and pick a carry every game. I am currently climbing with frickin' Sniper because my MMR is so shit people don't pay attention to where the damage is coming from.

>>127244318
if you find blood in the middle of a camp you can literally oneshot him with most nukes thanks to bloodrage amp and him being at 40% hp

chokepoint jungling can be incredibly dangerous in places where you creep block yourself into trees

I maintain that LC is one of the safest shitty junglers out there

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>>127244470
Get gud, your spirit animal hero and just go to fucking town.
Pic very related
Aether lens is fucking core on 80% of good heroes this patch, don't skip it
Also what >>127244613 said.
You can flame a bit, call people shitstains in all chat and use some humor, tac pauses etc, just don't go full EE and start feeding or go afk in the enemy jungle 50 minutes in.

>>127243875
>Calibration is always just a few hundred more or less than your unranked mmr
yes, but if he spends his time on his current account to get better at the game, and the make a new account and has more success in his games he'll calibrate at a higher mmr where people are more competent and he'll have the opportunity to climb from there
that opportunity doesn't exist at 1k

>>127244181
read what i wrote above

don't queue ranked anymore if you wanna climb, because it most likely won't happen, or it will take a million years
you'll be queued with, and up against consistent inconsistently bad players
if you play normal you have some chance of playing with decent players
just practice, ask someone to watch your replays and give you advice, then when you've improved you can make a new account and calibrate (hopefully) at a higher mmr

pick op heroes, get gud at them, destroy noobs, climb mmr

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>>127244494
>When Icefraud stop with the meme aghs on every FUCKING HERO, i'm done, switching to lol

I love Valve's recent shitty balancing approach
>oh this hero isn't picked
>let's give it a (new) aghs upgrade, that should fix it!

>>127244779
>You can flame a bit, call people shitstains in all chat and use some humor, tac pauses

This shit is game losing
A lot of teammates are on the very fucking edge of tilting
If you're autistic enough that you have to expose people to CLQ-level comedy in allchat, go ahead but you're probably throwing games that way

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Envy has like the worst game sense ever.
Why is his team even listening to him

>>127239581
Rocket League, or A Game Where You Actually Can Have Fun

>>127243870

>intentionally lose
>thinking this fucks up anyone else but yourself in the long run

You must be a teenager or a slav.

>>127244793
You know in the time he takes to level a fresh account to be able to play ranked, he could have already climbed to that level normally on his main.

>>127244470
Pick offlane Abbadon. Go 1-4-1 and then max out MIST COIL NOT YOUR FUCKING PASSIVE. Save your retard team mates but don't be afraid to wade into a teamfight if you have your ulti ready to go. Abuse the fact that more supports don't zone out offlaners properly. Learn how to pull from camps as an offlaner. Build psuedo-carry shit if you can get away with it (Phase, Drum if you get decent farm or fed otherwise get Urn, Vlads because you're going to be on a team with 4 other melee cores). Either transition into a semi-carry or buy utility shit like Halberd or Solar Crest.

Big thing - most teams will glance at an Abbadon going across the river to their side and not a give a fuck. Abuse this. You can get more farm from the enemy jungle if you play smartly and farm creeps. Always recognize scenarios where you can just TP out after they throw all their disables on you and trigger your passive.

>>127245048
because they believe the meme that being a pro = good

So, what hero is free MMR this patch?

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>>127245025
>he doesn't like CLQ
Okay, well I got to 4k mmr anyway.
Only real bonafide government check-cashing autists can't tell the difference between bantz and serious anger management flaming.

>>127239581
Undertale

>>127244797
>lets AGHS his non ultimate skills as well xD HATS xDDD

>>127245048
They know he's a pro so they listen to him hoping he carries them. Reality is he's absolutely retarded and almost always throws the game. Either his team knows this and they do everything in their power to save his dumbass or they're blissfully ignorant and do their jobs better thanks to placebo thinking it's envy making the easy win happen.

>>127245162
invoker

>>127245271
It just doesn't make that much sense to give an aghs that is just a damage or range increase for the ult because aether lens is a thing now.

>>127245309
EE actually plays amazing when he's with Puppey.

He's only retarded in pubs.

>>127245250
le ebin bantz
>ez
>)))
>?
>>>/9gag/

>>127245129
Why not both? /d2g/ is for underage peruvians/slavs who got banned from reddit for being edgy and australians

>>127245250
Wouldn't that piss spear shatter from falling from ~10km?

>>127245253
2015 had so many good indie games, that included. I've been playing Nuclear Throne and fell in love with it.

>>127245398
Who do you think keeps a leash on that retarded weeb? Envy is not a leader but knows when to listen to a good one.

>>127245309
I dunno, EE has some decent game sense and can see behind the fog somehow. He basically predicts the enemy movements and is right 99% of the time.

>Be patient guys, I'll carry
-EE

>>127245162
tinker is always free MMR if you aren't dogshit

he's literally 1v9 the hero

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>>127245398
good captaining has that effect on shitters

>>127244710
>if you find blood in the middle of a camp you can literally oneshot him with most nukes thanks to bloodrage amp and him being at 40% hp

You don't use bloodrage until you have gotten the creeps low and plan to heal up.

>chokepoint jungling can be incredibly dangerous in places where you creep block yourself into trees

Not anymore dangerous than jungling in the first place.

>I maintain that LC is one of the safest shitty junglers out there

Shit with some sprinkles on top is still shit.

>okay guys we can go we can go can you go x lets go kill x
>well shit we are all dead *slurp*

>>127245352
I Wish lens wasn't a thing, it's a nice mechanic for itens but still, by the way jakiro with aghs still gets the range upgrade, no?

>>127245398
So hes shit when he have any impact on game decisions.

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>>127239581
Ace attorney:Dual Destinies.
Skyrim
Civ 5 I think it was less than 5 years
>>127245482
>he unironically doesn't like 9gag
t. alberto barbosa
Stay 2k, my man.
>>127245498
Well it clearly killed someone, so no.

>>127245162
>>127245142

>>127245585
Wait for the next patch which maybe turns his aghs quas into a non-shit spell.

>>127244037
>can't just use your spells every time they come off cooldown to farm huge stacks/creep waves
>completely shit

you're 100% a buttblasted sf spammer

>>127245650
>Skyrim
you just fucked up nigga

>>127245531
too bad you cant 1v1 towers

>>127245025
>This shit is game losing

It really shouldn't be.

If you get so upset over some random person calling you a retard or shitter you shouldn't even be playing MP games in the first place.
Especially since you have a mute button.