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>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://store.steampowered.com/news/19848/
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://d2armory.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://yasp.co
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
http://www.gosugamers.net/
http://www.liquiddota.com/
livestreamer GUI: https://github.com/bastimeyer/livestreamer-twitch-gui

>BETTING
Cosmetic items: http://dota2lounge.com/

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>tfw I have been playing slardar since b4 it was cool
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What hero is worst choice for core position?
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IMPORTANT

http://strawpoll.me/6412818/
http://strawpoll.me/6412818/
http://strawpoll.me/6412818/

IMPORTANT
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hello
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>>127282810
>overeat
>wake up one day
>look in mirror
>neck is just gone
It takes a really, really stupid person to get that far.
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How do you build CK item wise?
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>>127299113
Wand + Treads + Drum + Armlet = ready to fight.

After I usually go SnY > Skadi / Heart > Assault

May need a BKB at some point if you're having trouble getting Phantasm off.
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>>127300794
>>127300750
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why is account buying a thing? is it cheap?
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>>127300901
People think they're better than the bracket there in so they pay for a higher MMR account only to realise they were exactly where they belonged to begin with.

Mentality of most dotards here judging from all the ME OOGA TEAM BOOGA posts.
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>>127300901
people think they deserve to be at a higher mmr

peoples mmr is too high and it takes too long to queue so they want a new account calibrated and ready to go immediately

shit like that

a 4.5k account is like $20
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reposting from other thread

>>127300026

A well played ember will NEVER die. Compare this to Puck who fits the same niche you pick it for. Puck will always be somewhat balanced just because yes, a well played Puck is unkillable but Puck really can't do any killing on his own without a team.

Ember is a better puck (he doesn't die) that does ridiculous bullshit late game and that sort of ridiculous bullshit (SoF rapier spam) is low skill. Carrying 2 rapiers and 1 shotting a support without any risk can happen in 6.86 because of various changes like Lotus Orb, Glimmer Cape and Linkens existing which allows for unpunishable SoF and remnant dives.
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>>127300901
After some casual googling:

https://www.epicnpc.com/threads/672231-Welcome-to-SHOP-NOOB-MMR-CHEAP-ACCOUNTS-3K-OVER-6K-ORIGINAL-MAIL-FOR-SAFE-HERE!!?s=7c940a002e01211a2bd2a746123a5d65
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>try my best, lead team, get best score and hero damage
>lose badly
>someone on team says to report me, drop all my items and feed 25 kills
>win
I hate this game so much
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noob question

is it better to play with one hero for all of your matches or is it better to switch it up sometimes when you're just starting out? i've played every single match so far as just one hero since i want to master it. is this a good way to approach it?
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>>127301341
Playing one hero is the worst thing you can do. You're learning nothing. Do you know every skill in the game? No? Congratulations you are sub 500 mmr.
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>>127301216
if you can win through that good fucking job most gulagites would just give up

>>127301341
spam one hero until you learn the games mechanics, after that use like 4-5 that can encompass every role

eventually you will need to be able to play a larger pool of like 15-20 heroes but don't even worry about that yet. just play the game
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How to play Meepo?
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hey guys did you know uhh ADELAIDE

LMFAO
ADELAIDEEEE HAHAHAHGA ADELAIDDEEEEE
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>>127301505
tab poof
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>>127300554

nice 4 chaos knight.
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One more time for the boys
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>>127301505
Play like any other hero, but you can stack without losing exp, gank without losing exp, get runes without losing exp, etc.

Other than that, just tab poof tab poof .... to kill someone.
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>>127301341

>>127301440
>>127301442
top is right if you want to become pro at dota but its just a game, have fun
and if you want to main a hero play juggernaut
also playing only one hero isn't how you master it you have to play against it/ watch replays of pros
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what hero
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why arent there any tournaments? does Valve want Dota 2 to die?
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I just had a 75 minute game and it made me wonder, what factors keep a game from drawing out too long?

In that particular game, it was a Legion Commander with 230 bonus damage from dueling.
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>>127301814
breaker
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>>127301606
It's what we do.
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>>127301814
antimage
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>>127301341
>>127301440
This is fucking bullshit.
You learn the game much better by spamming 1 or 2 heroes.
That's because when you know the ins and outs of the specific hero and basically play the hero subconsciously, you can focus better on general game stuff like map awareness, timing, smokes, etc.
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>>127301814
viper? dk? slark? idfk
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>>127301814
OD.
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>>127301814
it's drow ranger
fucking awful build jesus christ
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can someone post that picture of ppd's gf please
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>rtz plays mango bay
>start to dance uncontrollably

what's wrong with me?
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I see forced 50 is still a thing, despite not really playing for a month
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>Tried for sea qualifiers
>lose 2nd match

how do i git gud
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>>127302103
francis?
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>>127302036
I think she's pretty cute to be honest family.
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>>127301937
agreed senpai
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QUICK, I need Elder Titan tips stat
Should I bother maxing Stomp first in pubs?
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>>127302151
who
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>>127302157
post it I can't find it anywhere
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>>127302192
yes, just tell your teammates in chat not to wake them up
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How are these people dancing dota related
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What has Universe been building on void?

Alternatively what name has he been playing under?
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>>127302070
>people G E N U I N E L Y believe that forced 50% is real

It's honestly pretty baffling how deluded some of you dotards are who can't face up to the fact that you're not as high an impact a player as you think.

It's always MUH TEEM or MUH FORCED 50
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>>127302070
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>>127302047

>mfw
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>>127283259
Io
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>>127302192
You max your spirit like always
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I did it, guys!!!
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>>127302301
shh dont reply to them

thats what they want
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>>127302309
you left out the normal skill and normal match
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>>127302301
the SK in my luna game refused to join in at a critical team fight despite him having blink, and then I told my team not to fight and they didn't listen and lost a 4v5 and rax
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>>127302345
Congratulations!
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>>127302345
Gratz Anon, keep the grind going
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>>127302442
Thank you!
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>>127302345
welcome to hell
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>>127302345
haha 4k is not even good fAG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there's people that are 8K~! LOL fukcing oser
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>>127302345
now you get to play with peruvian shitters who'll keep you from hitting 5k
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>pick invoker
>win

Nice game dotards
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Guess who won.
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>>127302548
>purge is anti trump
based
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>>127302672
dire
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>>127302672
Bottom team because sven didn't buy a blink, also you need to remove the gold next time
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>>127302672
'dire
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>>127302548
>Purge is voting for Bernie
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*starts ulting a tower*
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>>127302790
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Vlads/Soul Ring/Dragon Lance Pushing Lina

Viable?
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>>127302790
nice try but we know this didn't happen in your game because no one picks that trashcan hero
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>>127302723
>also you need to remove the gold next time
SHIT
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>>127302434
and this is somehow valves doing, and not your fault for being stuck in a shit tier mmr because you are bad?
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>>127302790
>2 and a half FREE rings of health
>still sucks
how do we fix DK Knight?
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>>127302548
>purge always trys being the biggest "professional" at his "work"
>brings politics into videogames
he's lost it hasn't he
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>>127302913
It was a normal match, but I don't know why they don't just match by average MMR
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>>127302317
>has never seen the horror a surprise carry Io inflicts upon enemies

AA is the correct answer
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>>127303014
forced 50 is not a thing and thats coming from someone who has climbed 3.8k mmr
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>>127300554
Checked
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What counters Juggernaut?
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>>127303306
take his mask off
itll be extrememly paneful
uuuu
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>>127303127
I'm pretty sure it's a thing, it always ends up that someone throws in one way or another after a win streak

although some heros like Old PL made it irrelevant by how well you could do with them, spectre is close but spectre requires a team to be effective and that can't work in a pub
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>>127303306
ghost scepters
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>>127303306
Any tanky carry, or orchid, jugg's a pretty solid semi-carry all around though
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>>127303306
storm is breddy good since most likely he wont buy manta early, or if he does, you are fucked anyway
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Are any of these heroes good or no i havent played in a bit
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>>127302941
>a hero that is supposed to deal damage
>doesnt deal damage
str stat gain increase from 2.8 to 3.1 , dragon form physical damage bonus 20/40/60 and attack range bonus from 372 to 400

hes top pick/ban now, top midder and top safelane carry
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>>127302047
>mfw
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>>127302392
?
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>>127303563
bloodseeker is literal garbage now
necro gets hard countered by glimmercape
terrorblade is good for splitpushing and is a teamfight monster when he's slotted
np is good but you need to know how to not be a worthless 10 minute jungler
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FeelsGoodMan PepePls MANGO BAY FeelsGoodMan PepePls
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>>127303685
you won a jugg game in 14 minutes with only phase and aquila? lol what happened that game
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>>127303824
he probably deathballed with a lone druid

healing ward and lone druid is some scary shit
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>>127303824
>>127303887
Nah, we got multiple kills each lane, one of them tilted, fed and abandoned.
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>>127303685
Please for the love of god never build battlefury on jugg unless you're against Brood or PL
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So Dotards
Whats the build for Riki in this patch?
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>>127304070
repick dumb frogposter
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>>127304070
ring of timemachine
also filtered
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>>127303367
>it always ends up that someone throws in one way or another after a win streak
then dont be a bitch and tell them what to do, if you are doing well they will listen 100% of the time
valve cant control people in your games. you can.
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>>127302309
>got some lucky winning streaks
>wants to prove forced 50% WR wrong

lmao
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RTC not even going the machine gun build

baka desu
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who /perceptiveplayer/ here
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>>127304249
but it's my job to explain to them everything they're doing wrong and what they should be doing
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>>127303523
what do you mean he won't buy manta early
every non-braindead jug is going to go manta against any orchid buyers
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>>127303621
>good Terrorblade
I can see that working, actually.
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>>127304397
nice.
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>not going Caster Luna
baka desu senpai
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>>127304471
while you go orchid first item, they wont go manta first item

if he manages to farm up a core item AND a manta while you farm up an orchid, you are probably fucked anyway
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>>127304576
>going caster luna against a juggernaut
stay 2k
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>>127304658
that screencap is literally from rtzs stream you shitter lmao
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>>127303621
Since when was DK 'supposed' to deal damage?

The whole point is that he gets a lot of innate tankability which opens you up to build damage on him.
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think of things that would raise the skill floor

>skills can be set to auto level up
>skill points are auto applied past lv16
>bkb can be used while stunned but it will not purge the stun or debuffs until you are unstunned, just prevent any new stuns of magic damage
>when you buy soul booster the fucking piece of shit game doesn't make arcane boots
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>>127304786
get some comprehension lad
he didnt even imply that was you
what he meant was "you're 2k for thinking rtz should build caster luna against jugg"
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>>127304786
how fucking retarded can you be
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>>127304786
>that build
>caster
nigga you're so dumb
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>>127304794
remove dagger penalty
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So a new patch just downloaded NOW!

what does it do, I can't find any info on it
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>>127304791
if you ever played dk in your life youd know that even when you build damage item he still deals trash damage, you need level16 and to be overfed to stay relevant
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>>127304968
>>127304968


https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/3z7s0e/dota_2_update_january_2nd_2016/
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>>127304967
desu not that big of a deal
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>>127305045
thanks based redditfriend
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>>127304637
>Orchid: 4.1k gold item made of 7 pieces, the most expensive of which is 900 gold and the cheapest of which is 325
>Manta: 5k gold item made of 5 pieces, the most expensive of which is 2k gold and the cheapest of which is 450
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>>127304994
Not really familia.

A quick enough maelstrom gives him plenty of teamfight impact.
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best streamer
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>>127304794
>making the game braindead even further
>somehow raising skill floor
back to lol with you
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So what are we drinking tonight before a little bit of the good ol' Ultra-violence, boys?
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>>127305168
you seem to be confusing the skill floor with the skill ceiling
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>>127305168
what is it about dota that attracts illiterate fools
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>rtz makes dragon lance
>makes bkb
>starts building butterfly
>probably still wouldn't disassemble dragon lance

???
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>>127304794
being able to mouse hover a skill thats on CD, likewise to when youre silenced now
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>>127304794
>all heroes skill all their abilities before level 15
>some skills aren't worth leveling up over stats
>chain-disabling an important target isn't a valid strategy
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>>127305164
>all that horrible everything placement

No thanks
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>>127305164
>tfw this guy is hitting that every night
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So why aren't you playing Borderlands 2, the better MOBA, dotards?
:^^^^^^^^^^)
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>>127305370
ok

>if you have all your skills max when you level up, the skill point is auto applied

there
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>>127305053
Its a pretty big deal on heroes like shaker or sand king, but if you play a lot with those two you will learn the max blink range with time anyway
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>>127305485
How mad do ya gotta be to make that?
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Can solo hard dk work?
what items
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@127305485
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>Gonna mango bay it up in my bed
What did he mean by this?
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>>127304967
What penalty?
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>>127305665
clicking outside blink daggers range will blink you like 2-300 units shorter
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how to fix Dota:
4-man stack will play a 4vs4 game with another 4-man stack
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>>127305704
I don't understand, because I'm reading that as it having unlimited range but always leaving you short of the click.
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>>127305665
If you cast Blink Dagger at under 1200 range, you will blink to that spot.

If you cast Blink Dagger at over 1200 range, you will blink 1000 distance in that direction.

So in reality, Blink Dagger is a 1000 range blink that rewards you if you can sometimes hit the sweet spot between 1000 and 1200.

It's the stupidest shit ever.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuyV6G6atoQ
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mango bay is literally such a fucking based meme
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>>127305816
That literally makes no sense. The probability must of the events leading up to that must have been astronomically low, because the only way that could exist is if somebody had a seizure and started mashing keys in such a way as to program that in.
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>>127305830
>>127305962
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>Writing a bot to play Dota automatically
>Technically doesn't cheat, so VAC can't detect it
I just got all the visual and audio cues to register properly. Framework is ready, and I'm going to teach it how to Dota now. What heroes should it play? (Needs 2-4 options in case someone picks before him).
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>>127305962
definitely better than le carry abaddon or adelaide

those are the two worst memes of 2015 besides swnl and honey pot lans
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>>127305830
>>127306015
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>>127306038
if you can make a bot that can actually win games it would be awesome anon, valve would hire you or something idk
but you're probably memeing so meh
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>>127306038
abaddon (carry)
lich (carry)
sniper
zet
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>>127302548

Wow I didn't realise purge was such a cuck
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>>127306038
>bot dies to a savage roar
lol
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>>127306038
techies can simply be played by a robot
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>>127304576
That isn't caster, that's a standard build, caster is getting an aghs

also why are you playing on 720p?
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>>127305976
it's a penalty for double tapping blink

no one notices it
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>>127306127
We'll see. I mean, Valve had to code a lot of heroes at multiple difficulties (even though they could cheat). I'm just doing a few at one setting.
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>>127306192
it's a screenshot of RTZ's game, he went right click Luna instead of Caster Luna. He lost horribly.
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>>127306038
Meepo
Invoker
Chen just to see if its MMR drops by supporting
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>>127306301
but caster luna is highly situational and depends greatly on farm
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>>127306242
make a github repo on how you're doing it pls if you're not memeing it
when you die because it would probably be super hard someone can pick it up
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>>127306038
techies
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>>127305084
not him, but i never understood why people are so afraid of going to r/dota2 to get ACTUAL content?

you know you dont become a redditor, right?
the real problem is when you start liking the site, when you make an account, when you buy a fedora from ebay, when you start going to other subreddits that arent r/worldnews and r/dota2, when you make an account and start interacting, when you downvote someone not because you disagree with him, but because he hurt your feelings.
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>>127306587
>get ACTUAL content?
name one thing /r/dota has that /d2g/ doesnt
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>>127306587
>worldnews
im afraid u've already reached fedora tier m'lord
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>>127306587
I actually hate how I'm being forced to go to r/dota2 just to see the NEWS of dota because that's the only place where you can go for it without missing anything
i actually made an account to keep myself aware on how fucking circlejerking they are when they answer butthurted at my comments
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>>127306587
>r/worldnews
>sucking Putin's cock on a daily basis
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>>127306587
not 2 be contrarian or anything but when was the last time icetoad posted on there or they got some super secret exclusive valve leak? and what important dota news is there aside from patch notes?
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>>127306587
this is actual content:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuyV6G6atoQ
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>>127306684
umm
this??? >>127304968 >>127305045

>>127306701
>>127306763
i have literally never visited r/worldnews but i assume its very useful if you want to get an idea of whats going on? im sure if you go there you can form your own opinion about whats going on, and not automatically assimilate whatever opinion the comments are shoving down your throat, right anon?

>>127306734
you are right.

>>127306865
reddit always has autistic neckbeards who can track fucking anything, they got the whole Beesa and Ritsu thing, R. Lewis and Loda, all of that shit first appeared on reddit and people who browse there came to post it here, all drama and news is first posted there and if you want: patches, news, drama; you must go to reddit to find it.
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>>127306913
>beginning of rtz stream 7k views
>now 10k views
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>>127305146
His biggest problem is ultimately his base speed, which sucks.
So you're forced to buy a mobility item on him, even with ult up you're still slower than most people, especially since carries usually build yasha in some form whether it be an early SnY or a Manta. Even supports will run circles around you since they fairly often get a Euls.
So your first item needs to be some kind of mobility item, Shadow Blade or Blink.
Which runs into the problem of DK not being able to farm fast, so you need a Maelstrom, but that comes out after your blink, so it takes a while, and you really need to turn that into a Mjollnir because DK just so desperately needs attack speed.
Armlet is actually good on him since it gives him 65 damage and burst health, and hardly hurts him when it's on because of his ridiculous base regen.
But he's still not viable because even if you load him up with lots of 2k items you need six of them to make him work and round out all his weaknesses.

He's a carry that can't farm, can't chase, can't escape aside from hoping he can tank long enough to slowly meander to safety, and can't do damage.
Therefore you have to play him as an offlane initiator and just forgo damage. The buff helped him a lot now, he can stay in lane and just can't be forced out meaning he should have great cs during the laning phase, and his winrate went up from 46% to 49% in 4k and 5k, but you're not gonna be seeing 50%+ winrate DK anytime soon. But yeah I think he fills his current role fine enough, people better than me are winning almost half the time with him so he's not useless.

His winrate in lower skill brackets is actually worse now, probably because of unskilled shitters thinking the extra health regen lets him 1v5 or something stupid.
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>>127303935
shut the fuck up ape
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What's the arcane ring of Dota 2?
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>>127307147
literally mana boots
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>>127307140
Battlefury is one of the worst things you can buy on jugg basher/MoM is going to be better in 99% of situations, and a soul ring takes care of all your mana issues
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>>127301341
random every game
no exceptions
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post techies reaction images when things go just as planned
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>>127307245
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>>127301980
>phase boots on traxex
eeeeww
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>>127306587
>ACTUAL content
ok let me do that

>1st post, link of a gif *humor gif*
>2nd post, link of ingame humor
>3rd post, link of a gif *humor/bug gif*
>4th post, notice of a patch (who even gives a fuck about patch notes that isn't game balance)
>5th post, another gif *humor*
>6th post, a gif explaining that orcales spells actually do shit
>7th post, image of ingame humor
>8th post, video of miracle
>9th post, gif post of gems on WD ult
>10th post, a shoutout post to a team beating another team
>11th post, link to arc warden fan art
>12th post, image showing EE hasn't lost since he stopped picking PA
>13th post, gif of a combo in a pro game
>14th post, bug report
>15th post, advertisement regarding tickets
>16th post, image of some shitty exercise game for dota
>17th post, reminder of a show match
>18th post, image complaint about valve armory restrictions
>19th post, image of effigy bug
>20th post, image complaining about party stacks
>21st post, image of a retard in a pub game
>22nd post, image of dota twitch's page showing rtz stream
>23rd post, advertisment about buying charms
>24th post, notice that there's a patch out
>25th post, some text post about a survey or some shit

wow real amazing, can't believe I wasted time browsing reddit and then writing this post
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>>127301341
pick techies

literally zero skill requirement
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>>127307285
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>>127307245
>acting like bfury blink isnt the best build almost every game now

http://www.datdota.com/hero.php?q=Juggernaut&p=items

set it for 6.85 since 6.86 is empty for some reason? and see how dumb you are

soul ring, how dare u make me read ur posts
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>>127307347
yeah there's nothing happening right now, doesn't mean news don't get posted there
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>>127307245
>don't buy a farming item on a guy who scales exponentially off of farm, get a dueling item or an item that reduces his effective HP instead
>also rush an Aghs
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>>127307347
im aware of r/dota2 and reddit in general being a clickbait autistic circlejerk pile of steaming shit but sometimes you get lucky.
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>>127307347
sounds like us except we have memes
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>>127307423
Hey buddy, fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
Now ride off on it or stop talking about reddit.

Talk to me about Drow Aghs or something.
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>>127307397
>you gotta browse reddit for real content
>but wait a majority of the time there isn't real content

are you retarded?

I'll find out about anything *news* worthy within minutes on /d2g/
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>>127307376
>>127307414
Soul Ring gives you infinite sustain and with a MoM + Healing ward you can farm the ancients extremely early

in any case you should pretty much always be getting soul ring/mom on jugg

also battlefury takes far too long to come out if your farm is slow and you don't need it because you can farm the jungle quickly with blade fury and your soul ring
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>>127304794
or people could just gitgud or make scrubs play only with scrubs
match making system is total bullshit
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>>127307498
i thought aghs drow was just gonna be a niche meme if an alch is in the game but i've had a couple in my games that really worked, it was kinda hilarious, lightning and mkb minibashes fucking EVERYWHERE
i like it but im not sure if you should get it like, after like treads or buy a yasha or maelstrom before or what the fugg
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>>127307528
You can also farm Ancients very quickly with a Bfury and Healing ward as well as the jungle, all the lanes, and enemy laners since you won't die 25% sooner and have cleave damage on a guy that shits crits like crazy.
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>>127307528
requesting mmr so i know ill never see you
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>>127307509
>browse
>look at the main page for 5 minutes each day
wew anon
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>>127307509
>I'll find out about anything *news* worthy within minutes on /d2g/
If you went to r/dota2 you'd quickly realize those news on /d2g/ are posted by reddit spies.
Not complaining though. Leddit is just fundamentally shit.
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>>127307370
>start mining near rune spot
>sitting around next spot waiting for mana to come back
>CM goes down tiny stairs between me and first minefield
>second minefield literally zero mines
>oh_fuck.jpg
>I run for the rune so I could at least deny
>she runs away
>she steps on the mines
>first blood
>middle takes rune
>just as planned
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>>127307647
yea I'm sure you browse a site designed for click bait titles for just five minutes
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>>127307147
soul ring
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>>127307616
Drow does decent damage with a few points in her aura, but I feel like an early Aghs is a meh decision. Only gives her 10 damage and 10 attack speed, and although she technically can hit 3 targets at the same time unless she has some kind of orb beyond her frost arrows it's kind of meh.
I'd say at least a Maelstrom first
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if you make aghanims on drow you are a fucktard
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The age of MOBAs is over.
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if you pick drow you are a fucktard
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>>127307689
okay fine faggot, 20~30 minutes
meh
i suck
whatever
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>>127307805
if you are on a lose streak you better pick traxex
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>>127307370
>suicide
>just as planned
It's literally used when things are not going just as planned
except if you wipe
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>>127307924
>not planning a 5-man holy hand grenade shot with your Tinybro
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What can you do nowadays to keep Huskar from just fucking your shit up if he gets close to you? Force Staff?
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>>127308045
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what is a good item to buy on Earth shaker after mana boots > blink > HoD?

what if its too early to make aethers?
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kunka is shit
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>>127308271
veil
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>>127308271
you build treads into mask of madness into crystalys

jk you dont play that cheese shit
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>>127308271
force staff?
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>>127308329
you right im dumb
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I never was killed by afklers more then here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXAPIDf3wNY
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>>127308271

force
euls
shadow blade
octarine core from disasembled arcanes
sometimes rarely aghs
refresher

all of these are better than HoD and Aethers
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OH SHIT

I randomed lich

what is the current carry build for lich in 6.86 ?
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Mango Bay
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whats the best way to pick heroes to increase my mmr? i tried spamming one hero no matter what, doesnt work too well. i tried waiting until last to counter pick best i can, doesnt work too well either.

what do?
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>>127308625
BoT, aghanims, bloodstone, octarine, scythe
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>>127308709
stop supporting trump ez 7k
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>>127308625
treads, you want dat HP and atack speed
orchid so that you have something more useful than spamming your first spell like a retard
aghs, enough said
pigstick, you want to disable that ursa, don't you?
buriza, it's late game already and you want to outDPS half the enemy team
tarasque so you can beat 1v1 a mega creep wave
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>tfw this playstyle of weaver will never be viable because it requires too much farm to save people

AT LEAST ITS FUN IN OVERTHROW
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>>127308709
Just git gud. mmr necessarily follows afterwards.
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>use mic in csgo >3 different commends in one game and 2 friend adds
>use mic in dota >CYAK BLYAT IDI NAHUI

dotards???
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>>127308271
arcanes>blink>forcestaff>veil>octarine from arcanes>bots
at this point you can do whatever is needed
aghs/refresher/scythe/shivas/
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tfw cutie twitch slut that isn't russian and plays better than a 4k trash like me
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>>127303563
Terrorblade is alright, the rest are not as alright.
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>>127303082
aa was a mid ti1 nerd
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>>127309103
>necrophos
>bad
choose one
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Guys I want to kill myself.
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>>127309208
> Glimmer cape.

Iunderstand u havn't played in a while but that item shits on necro so hard it isnt funny
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>>127309052
shes a muslim cutie, i wonder how her body looks
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>>127309235
thats stupid
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>>127309052
>tfw no sandnigger gf
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>>127309235
don't lol if you do that you die faggot
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guys i made oc))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>127309238
you could just wait until they are at 35% hp instead of 50%
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>>127309323
good work
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>>127309238
it really doesn't
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>tfw when adelaide gives you a gift
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>>127309297
>muslim

She said on stream she has tattoos.

She has a boyfriend, who is not only a white guy but also a kafir (infidel).

She swears.

She dresses like a slut.

She also said she's not religious on stream.

Let's be real here, she would have acid thrown on her in her home country, or be stoned to death. Allah wills it.
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>>127309235
Go farm jungle IRL
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>>127309238
>a stunned enemy can use glimmer
/d2g/
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>>127309238
>glimmer cape
>nerfing necro
i understand u are a 4k shitter but you arent supposed to use scythe as a duel
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>>127309393
its been months
I still don't get it
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>>127309438
>he uses scythe on supports
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>>127309238
In high level play, Scythe is only used as a disable and not to execute people.
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>>127309416
still muslim tho
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>>127309393
i want adelaide to trip and have his head smashed in concrete
>>127309458
some dumb faggot australian trying to force his gay meme like the L O N D O N g
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>>127309052
>>127309416
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>>127309052
thank you allah
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>>127309052
>5.5k

>a girl is better than me at dota

Should I kill myself?
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>>127308709
spam a hero that's not hard counterable

SF, Ember, WR, etc.
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>>127309519
Why? Hes a nice person..
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>>127309416
I would have assumed he meant arab
muslim status obviously has nothing to do with how she looks, so my guess is that this retard thinks "muslim" is an ethnicity
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>>127309604
you could probably reach 5k easy if you were getting paid for playing. most people have real fulltime jobs and commitments other than dota. not saying you shouldnt kill yourself but you know...
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why is ephey so perfect bros
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>>127308794
this
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>>127307628
Except you're farming ancients at 30 minutes vs 15 minutes
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>>127309323
based neste going to beat all the ruskies so hard
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so is invoker the cancer of 6.86? I've seen it in every game for weeks.

seems the "strong in every phase of the game" type
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>>127309852
why do you people think bfury is bad on jugg.. if you aren't shit you can get it at 10 minutes consistently, then you just win
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>get low priority for abandoning a 7-50 shit stomp
>need one win
>constant afk'rs and trolls
>5 lost games
>lose my shit and abandon
>3 wins required
>uninstall dota
check mate valve.
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>Be playing carry
>7-0-3
>team is yelling at me for not engaging in 2v4, 2v5 and 3v5 fights
why do some people feel like the carry should always be behind them when I have a tp scroll, they're nowhere near a tower and my killstreak is worth more than the kills I'd get?
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>>127309647
LOL LOOK AT ME

adelaide?

adelaide?

im adelaide and i ban evade because its funny to post my city lOLL LOVE LIVEEEEEE

i fucking hate him
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>>127310048
Because juggernaut can't live very long in team fights if he's focused and battlefury takes far too long to come out in the average pub game, it's only useful if you have no other cleave and really need cleave

hell some games orchid is going to be much more important than a battlefury after your MoM/Soul Ring

also you obviously don't use MoM in team fights, only when you need to chase or gain movement speed to run with phase boots
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>playing solo support
>carry yells at me in all caps I didn't babysit him
>it's my fault he keeps dying from being out of position
>he yells at me for 10 mins straight, I pretend to be sorry, apologizing, etc.
>we lose early-mid game with 15k deficit and all outer towers lost, but somehow make a comeback with key pickoffs and smokes
>as we're pushing their base, I destroy all my items and start intentionally feeding
>he starts losing his mind
>I keep feeding and announcing my team's positions
>lose but it was worth it

I gladly take the -25 because players like him don't deserve to win.
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>>127307794
dota is an ASSFAGGOTS
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>>127310447
>MoM/Soul Ring
who the fuck would ever build those items on jugg this patch holy shit
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>>127310198
pretty sure it's a reference to the name of an anime character but i don't wanna steal your thunder
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>>127310749
I usually do, it let me farm ancients+hard camp pretty early after a shitty start while naga free farmed the entire jungle with radiance

even had to jump right into orchid and immediately got a kill on ember with it
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>>127309604
But it's on NA so...
Unless of course you are a burger yourself.
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>>127310991
can you google or are you too stupid
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>>127310138
If only you had friends you could stack and crush it.
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Why did everyone suddenly stop building Void like they did before?
Now I see people going for weirdest shit instead of the standard MoM maelstrom etc.
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>>127308271
aghnaims, battle fury and buriza faggot
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>>127310198
Your rage only feeds him.
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>>127310998
>512 gpm
you can get like 800+ gpm every game with bfury as long as you stack for yourself with your hotd
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>>127311207
But I would have never gotten a battlefury in time to win that game with the incredibly hard safe lane I was in

aside from that, ya, no, the attack speed is great, and MoM provides added mobility to get around the map quickly with phase boots
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>>127310998
here, all 4.8k + ranked games
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>>127311106
Maelstrom is a meme item.
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>>127310572
just mute and continue playing, maybe by some miracle an initiator on your team gets the farm he needs and will start dominating the game or something similar, never give up even if it looks 100% lost
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Greetings, fellow /dota 2 general/ users.

I am city: ADELAIDE and I approve of the item: Heaven's Halberd being used on hero: Oracle

It is much more viable than the playstyle: Carry Abaddon

Please build: Heaven's Halberd on hero: Oracle

Thanks again, /dota 2 general/ users.
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>>127311367
to be honest you can jungle jugg from level 1 now with talon if you have a hard lane and you shouldnt be losing any lane with jugg anyways the hero has such a strong early game
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>>127311449
can you fuck off and die holy shit you pathetic loser
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>>127311375
The win rate is most likely skewed because the juggernaut/team in question was already going to win due to his GPM allowing him to build the battlefury

>>127311462
I forgot that was a thing now, so that might be able to work, but ya, WW/Void off lane is no fun as nothing is killable really
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>>127311512
woah woah woah, just cause a user has finally been able to build the correct item on Oracle doesn't mean you can berate them with your insults. Apologize to them at once.
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>>127311589
like I said I can consistently get battlefury at around 10 - 12:30 minutes and if you cant you shouldn't be playing safelane
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>>127311589
also in safelane you dont have to get kills your only goal should be to farm as much as you can without dying
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>>127311598
xd
>>
put into low priority for the first time

what are some advanced techniques to quickly get back to ruining real games
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>>127311106
Difference now is that you want more hp to make use of new time walk and mom isn't ideal since you die too easily (reduced range on time walk means you will get off worse chronos than before and not always trap as many enemies as you'd like).
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>>127309490
You use it on whoever is the most dangerous.
I'd definitely ult a support if they can win a team fight through mass disables. Especially if our support can lock down the carry with his own shit or if I can just lock down both at the same time with a Sheepstick.
Supports can be some scary shit. Like Omni. If I can ult him before he ults I'm fuckin doing it.
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>>127311886
>what are some advanced techniques to quickly get back to ruining real games

Hoping the enemy doesn't DC because that makes the match moot since it doesn't remove a match from the required number of matches.
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>>127311449
Perth?
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>>127311886
Mute everyone
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>>127311715
>>127311782
You have much better luck than I do then, any time I go safe lane their offlane is incredibly strong

With the damage blade fury does you should be going for a kill wherever possible, just hope the enemy gyro isn't smart enough to TP in to help

usual start is Stout/Quelling + 3 Clarity and now with 1 Faerie Fire, slow healing, but highly efficient with the healing ward
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>>127312047

I already do that

thanks though that is a good tip
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>>127312013

so if I dc when one team has megas the game doesn't count?
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>trading hits with the offlaner
>have a disable ready
>easy kill if my carry comes, so i ping the enemy
>carry keeps farming
>i die and the offlaner has 5hp left
>carry gets mad because i'm "feeding" and he did no wrong for not helping

I am so sick and tired of carry players that don't understand basic laning.
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>>127312075
its not about how strong the offlane is, you can just abuse pulls as the safelaner/ go to jungle with some lifesteal
watch some replays of envy playing safelane vs a dual lane
and if your safelane is hard you should never try to kill them, only play aggressive enough for them to fuck off
and that starting build is pretty strange but it doesnt matter as much, I like to start with tangoes stout salve and slippers of agi to build into pms or another set of tangoes depending on lane
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>>127312234
Go back to reddit with your reddit image man.
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>>127312234
>supporting in low level pubs
i thought we were over this
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>>127312181
>so if I dc when one team has megas the game doesn't count?

An entire team needs to DC for the match not to count. Happens often enough in LPQ.
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>>127312280
im a man who loves looking for adventure
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>>127302672
>drums on zeus
what is this shitty meme
>no blink or force staff
>NO AETHER WIN LANE LENS
>>
When are EU qualifiers?
Even reddit knows nothing
Yes I am a redditor :^)
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>>127312290

if I ever get in fucking game

15 mins and twice some faggot didn't ready up so back to queue

lpq seems to be the only part of matchmaking that actually works as intended, everything else is fucking shit
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>>127305628
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuyV6G6atoQ
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why i buy forcestaff?
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>>127312271
It wasn't hard to begin with, it just turned hard when kills were missed due to no one on my team carrying a TP

as far as pulling goes I usually don't have time to stack and pull, mostly use it just to pull the lane back when it's pushed.
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>>127302672
Not a single person had a good build in that match.
Not one.
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Is it bad in 5k sometimes i still go forcestaff on bloodseeker for nostalgia purposes even though its game ruining most of the time
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>lost 21 of my last 23 games

Is the shadowpool real?
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>>127312315
>buying lens on a hero with already good cast range
>buying lens instead of veil
>sacrificing an energy booster for lens instead of octarine/bloodstone later on
what kind of logic is this
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tfw skeleton of free rating will never be meta again
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reminder to not enter a lane with the best JUNGLE HERO
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>>127312441
What do we say when we fall off the horse, Master Wayne?
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>>127312423
the most efficient way to farm in soloq is forcing the offlaner away from lane then pushing wave to their tower with spin/ autoattacks and then farming big camp between waves, you should be doing this every game pretty much
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>>127305976
It's an old holdout from wc3 mechanics that they decided to keep for arbitrary reasons despite not keeping other wc3 blink mechanics like minimum range.
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>>127312656
BIG GUY FOR YOU
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>>127312618
>got told how hard he and lc jungle sucked yesterday
>came back for more today
>even your cosmetic choice is bad

Are you a masochist?
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>>127312686
I take it you mean with a talon now, I could probably do that if I was ever against a passive off lane or solo off lane hero
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>>127312618
>muh trench level games
Reminder that in games of any decent level, the ONLY heroes that have a higher winrate in the jungle than elsewhere are chen and enigma.
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>>127312720
yes and it makes redditors go away
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>>127312741
dont need talon just quelling, talon only if you have a really hard lane like a aggrotri/ dual offlane with roaming sky or something then you just go jungle
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>>127312618
>Rush blink even before boots
>Go to lane, exclaim "Hey friends, I have my blink and duel, lets go"
>Sorry ass attempt to kill someone when you have zero damage and two idiots in lane who keep farming or somehow don't do enough damage to kill the enemy in time
>"It's fine guys, good strat I promise"

If you want to rush initiation and can't just, say, wait for a team fight or gank and walk up to someone low and duel them for easy wins, then rush a shadow blade instead. 8 minutes in the bonus 175 damage first hit and the extra damage on each other hit is far, far better for those early duels than a blink
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>>127312618
Reminder that you are memeing because that is literally the least useful level 6 build on any hero in the game ever achieved on purpose.
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>>127312860
For some reason I doubt farming the hard camp with just a quelling at low levels is going to work well before I have a morbid mask
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>>127312441

it's real, happened to me too
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>>127312902
do you not watch pro carries lane or something?
just mimic what they do
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>>127312618
Get better taste in cosmetics. LC has 3 good sets and you choice pieces from neither.
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>>127312973
I've been out of the loop for months and just started coming back in with this patch, there used to be a medium camp instead of a hard camp,

how does one even farm a hard camp effectively with jugg early, or does that involving putting points into crit, it can't be good for his health
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>>127313042
think it looks dope
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Its funny how noone who has lc arcana jungles hehe
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>>127313135
you can pretty much farm hard camp with any carry, and also you should always get a point in crit it makes you hit so much harder
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>>127313239
i have one but think its super ugly and the voice is shit
t. certificated jungler
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Hey guys, pick me even though I'm no longer a carry, offlaner, initiator or durable.

No idea what Icefrog was thinking with this patch.
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>not following PSG on twitch

why aren't you supporting our literal guy
help him leave the shadow kindgom
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>>127313340
he`s fun
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>>127313205
Clashes too hard in color and style, looks like a hack job. For a more unique look the Valkyrie set is better.
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>>127313408
fuck off PSG stop selfpromoting
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>>127313283
usually 1-1-1 for jugg, what do you mean any carry can farm a hard camp, I mean you can I'm sure, but you're going to take a lot of damage in the process unless something else I'm forgetting was changed
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>>127313440
idk it looks really cool ingame and i like the weapon
also rate my teams draft
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>>127313536
you should be pulling your creeps to the hard camp instead of the easy camp and farming it, even pulling the enemy creeps to it, and at the point where you are taking entire lanes you should be able to easily farm a hard camp with chokepoint jungling
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>>127313340
He's a better offlaner now than before, wtf are you talking about?
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>played DotA until 2009
>stopped playing the game because of life and I wasn't that interested
>graduated recently
>have been playing LoL for a few months and am in high platinum

Can I get into DotA2, lads? I have the same mechanics from before, so will I be able to just jump in with familiar heroes? League of Legends is a bit boring, and it's really annoying that I need to grind for every hero
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>>127313751
there are less heroes in dota 2 than warcraft 3 dota so heroes wont be a problem
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>>127313751
yeah, dota is pretty much a casual game right now
just buy shadowblade on every hero
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>>127313408
>not posting link to channel
good job
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>>127313751
>Can I get into DotA2, lads?

No reason to. Dota 2 is a massive timesink where most of the time you won't even be having fun playing it.
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>>127313705
That's an option, but any competent off laner is going to try and make your life hell for trying that, and isn't doing that going to cost me lane farm
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>linkens sphere blocks cask regardless if you're the first or second or last hit
>linkens sphere only blocks shackleshot if you're the primary target

not allowed to have any sort of advantage against that ginger bitch huh
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>>127313826
http://www.twitch tv/swayzesghost
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>>127313847
you gotta zone the offlane with your support, and how would it cost you farm you are pushing the lane first while not missing any creeps/ taking it with you to the camp to farm there
and if you are against a dual lane then just pull the small camp and farm it and the lane creeps at same time
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>>127313316
Give it to me then if you think its ugly ;_;
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>>127313987
See you're assuming that your support is at all competent, I assume the worst and go from there

But ya I do pull if the lane is pushed up, but most times I don't have time to pull through, or my support isn't good enough to do it

or depending on the carry it's a bad idea because the average ranged carry can't tank creeps under tower while a pull is going on
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is vlads literally the best item in the game?
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explain this dotards

https://twitter.com/fuckeveryword/status/683558420717244417
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>play selfish jungler lifestealer
>get streak
>play support
>lose

explain this dotards
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>>127314185
dotard is an actual word
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>>127314156
It is now, just won a game with vlads/dragon lance lina
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>>127314206
carries have more impacts on games than supports do
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>>127283259

You have never seen the mid Io that is miku something something. Horrifying stuff to deal with
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>>127314206
dem 8 minute treads are surely gonna win you the game.
he's slow as fuck jungler
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>>127314206
only reddit thinks jungling is a meme
the next ti will have jungle lcs
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>>127314206
new day
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>turning the tide of the game because of you due tactics and not because you got fed up
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>>127314093
dont even need a competent support usually you can zone the offlane by yourself as long as you dont pick something retarded, and you have to forget the entire pulling to the small camp when the lanes pushed, you want maximum farm not the enemy to get less farm because they will usually get farm anyways if your team is bad
you just want to put yourself as far ahead as you can
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Am I in hell?
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I'm 4.9k and i think this bracket is still bad, is 5.5k where game gets good.

What range do account buyers disappear
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>>127314206
>get carried
>win
>don't get carried
>lose

Maybe start adding the players that carried you and your winrate would improve.
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>>127300890
good point.
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>>127314337
Why are your kills so low on the heros meant to get kills
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Guys help, I haven't been able to download replays since reborn was officially released and every time I try to it just says "couldn't open decompressed replay file".

How do I fix it?
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>>127314206

matchmaking is all luck
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>>127314337
kills are too low
i had a full page with minimum of 10 kills each and almost all loses
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>>127314206
this is me >>127314318
I was with rhasta. you just suck with support. should have warded more faggot
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>>127311449
Adelaide?
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>pretty much never play a hero i don't even like
>still do well with it pretty much every single time and win
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>>127314429
is wr the hottest waifu?
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>>127313440
how shit is mine?
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>>127314416
the hero doesn't matter, every game one lane will lose and they'll start intentionally feeding or messing with the courier or shittalking the team. This'll be by 15 minutes, and the enemy will spend 15-30 minutes pushing us in
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>>127314579
Literally Lina. Now please help me make replays work.
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>>127314337
>those fucking item builds
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>>127314338
5.2k+ and the matchmaking will start putting you into the 6k games to balance the average MMR.
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>>127314569
How can you not like cm? She's a nice pure slut
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Can any of you guys explain how Sheever is only 3k despite playing 6,000 games of dota?

Imagine if you practiced piano for 6,000 hours and yet couldn't play a simple piece.
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>>127314338
You will have EE spamming pa till he loses your games
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>>127314359
>get carried
i almost puked m8
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>bb- b but if you support you can win these games!!
i lost a game as jungle lc guys
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>>127314805
lc is defiantly top 10 worst hero
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>>127314206
>>127314772
tagging myself
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>>127314594
You're using one of the worst sets and sword for the hero.

Errant Soldier, Stonehall Royal and Flight of the Valkyrie are the only good sets.
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>>127314718
she's a girl, therefore she's afraid of trying and failing at something. this makes her unable to learn like men do.

also it's hilarious how some people make their living by playing games (streamers) and they're horrible at them, mostly girls (again). just take a look at the league of legends category on twitch and check out their rankings, most of them play the game everyday and they're still at low ranks, hilarious
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>>127314873
woman aren't competitive as men
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>>127314873
>she's a girl, therefore she's afraid of trying and failing at something.
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>>127314718
>Can any of you guys explain how Sheever is only 3k despite playing 6,000 games of dota?

Because she stacks a ton with players MUCH better than her (actual pros), meaning she never has any incentive to get good or ever have to meet with any real hardships to learn from.
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>>127314935
it's true though. why else would women be so bad at most things, remember that men dont even have any physical advantage in video games like they do in sports, why are MOST women still so bad at them?
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>>127314995
not socially acceptable to play video games
woman should doll up so they can please men for free drinks
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HOW TO MAKE DOOM COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY BALANCED

>Infernal Blade grants true strike.

FIXED
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where is pit lord
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>>127315071
Doom is being picked right now? His Winrate is actually close to 50????
I thought he was dead
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Who else is working hard at not being a scrub? I think I'm starting to like this game

>>127314995
>>>/r9k/

Stay there please
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>>127315037
but anon
gamer girls are a thing
it's just that dota requires actual skill as opposed to candy crush
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>>127314772
Going from top left to right.

>carried by spectre and wr
>got lucky wr got matched with 4 trashcans because it was time for his forced 50
>tiny's forced 50, most likely tried too hard until the end when his entire enemy team fed out of control hence his deaths
>carried by zet hard
>forced 50 for OD
>carried by sf

Congratz, even in your cherrypicked matches you weren't the reason your team won.
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>>127315071
removing lvl death was the biggest bullshit and doom is shit fuck you ice frog
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>>127315079
srs question where is pitlord
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>Enemy team picks Pudge
>MLG hooks from across the map
>pinging his location never stops people from standing still under him
>lose

>Teammate picks Pudge
>Fuckwad who can't land a single hook
>bitches at team for not feeding with him
>too scared to hook people in lategame because enemy team is too fat and can pick him off by themselves

Rinse and repeat for Kunkka, Axe, Invoker, WR, and Zeus.

Pubs are suffering.
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>>127314805
>dat obviously suffering SD that did all he could with the 4 retards on his team, one of them being a jungling LC
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>Ehome's offlane Kunkka skills stats at 1

Er, dotards?
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>>127314337
>no strength giving items
>on Chaos Knight
>no damage items
>on Chaos Knight
OSNWAYD

Hey I have 400% base crit with ult and another armor reducing 275% crit.
Building damage? Psshhhaaww naaahhh
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>>127314805
That poor Shadow Demon. Jesus look at that lineup
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any lone druid autists in the house?
could i get some tips?
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>>127315301
>"pros"
no wonder ehome is shit
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>>127315357
CK doesn't need damage, he needs Str/HP to keep his illus alive since without them he is flat out dogshit midgame and onward. If he doesn't do something with his ult then he is garbage because the ult has such a long cd.
CK's problem is in no shape or form damage.
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>>127315396
>>127315285
am and pa got reported by the other 3 no one blamed the jungle lc
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>>127315402
treads for me, phase for bear. upgrade bear and rabid, sometimes I just leave the ult for late game. don't forget to turn phase boots on when chasing niggas. vlad on druid assault on bear beginning by hyperstone. after that make whatever item the particular match needs

with ult off you will kill much more, with ult on you will die less
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>>127315402
>any lone druid autists in the house?
>could i get some tips?

Bulldog's LD guide.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG9qqtdQwNY

Naturally consider the change in skillbuild and shit. Item builds and how to play the hero remains the same so it all still apply.
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>>127315464
CK scales exponentially off damage. Strength is good because it gives him both.
Which is why Armlet is such a good fucking item on him. Armlet, ult, 200 damage +250hp illusions. And this nigga rushed a fucking Manta.

And then got a HotD then started building a Skadi. I mean fuck. C'mon he's the one hero Heart is actually core on and gets the most benefit out of Armlet yet people don't want to build either on him.
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>>127315596
Bulldog is shit. I ain't taking advice from piece of shit.
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>>127315653
youre not me
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>>127315402
ult when you see an incoming projectile nuke/stun
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>>127315596
>blink dagger
fuck off with this meme item
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>>127315550
>no one blamed the jungle lc

Considering the match could've been salvaged with 1 more support they should've.
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>>127315671
We are one :3
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>>127315696
I hope you mean meme item on LD, and not in general.
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>>127315646
>Which is why Armlet is such a good fucking item on him

Only if you have wisp. I hopefully don't need to go into why when it's so painfully obvious.
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>>127315402
Only play him if you can play 2 heroes perfectly at the same time.
otherwise you're better off playing any other hero.
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How do I get good at Dota? I've been playing for a month and I still have no idea about builds, items etc. Without trying forth stuff without getting yelled at in normal games. I don't feed or anything, but it all seems like a clusterfuck with all the different heroes
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@127315750
janny what the fuck
do your fucking job or you wont get your paycheck this month :^)
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>>127315808
>How do I get good at Dota? I've been playing for a month and I still have no idea about builds, items etc. Without trying forth stuff without getting yelled at in normal games. I don't feed or anything, but it all seems like a clusterfuck with all the different heroes

There are no good guides on this at all, so you know.
This is why most people are generally pretty bad at this game and have such splintered knowledge. Why? People just keep playing and learning through endless trial and error.

Because of this there isn't even much point in getting good at the game since you won't get matched with and against genuinelly good players.
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>>127315808
play with a new hero everytime, actually read the skills and item descriptions. be patient. play with bots to learn stuff if you don't want to get yelled at. after you figure out your shit go back to pubs with heroes/combos in mind. try out EVERY hero.
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>>127315908
what a salty post
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>>127315808
Almost all advice you're get will be wrong or bad. D2g, reddit and so on almost entirely consist of players of not even average skill.
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What the fuck is that cringeworthy donation sound/gif on bulldog stream?
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>>127316041
>what a salty post

It's a realists view.
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>>127316089
He's a washed up living meme. What do you expect? It's all he does to cater to his viewers.
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>>127315769
That's dumb and stupid. Illusions fully benefit from the strength, but their health doesn't drain from the effect. Armlet is a super cheap way to give CK armor, lodsadamage, sustain, and buff his illusions. Get a Mask next and land a crit and the health drain might as well not be a thing.
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>>127315908
>endless trial and error
>I've played a game with a player with 2000+ games who built mana boots on kotl
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>>127315750
o///o
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>>127315703
Supports have half the impact of carries. Supporting is for shitstains
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>>127316160
>That's dumb and stupid.

You have no way to restore the HP lost from armlet so you will lose a lot of HP, especially during prolong engagements. It also doesn't give you any additional movespeed to keep up with enemies (especially magic immune ones). I could go more indepth but I'm honestly tired of having to repeat this every week.

Treads, s&y, heart into halberd and manta is the general way to go on CK if you don't have wisp.
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>>127314863
>worst sword
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>>127315808
One of the most important thing is to get used to not looking at your hero

You running back to base?
Look around the map
A-clicking through the jungle?
Look around the map

You don't need to be centered on your hero the entire time
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>>127314863
that one feels too much like an omniknight set to me. I like the errant soldier, but I think my black knight vibe is chuckleworthy.
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I want to buy an arcana, however I'm unsure of which one I want, dubs decides.
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>>127316338
Chaos Knight is one of the fastest heroes in the game. Who are you having trouble outrunning, Windranger?
And with a 6 second pull it's not like people without blinks can get away even if they're faster than you.

It's also not like you don't get a yasha ever. But Armlet is something you can pick up in the laning phase and then you use it to one shot people with ult up.
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>>127316257
>Supports have half the impact of carries. Supporting is for shitstains

Except that's wrong.

The enemy had a much stronger early and midgame and that is why SD's team lost.
With another support over the uselessly jungling LC they could not only have made their laning stronger (so as not to die in lane), but also made their rotations and warding stronger.

SD was also a poor choice for solo support since that hero shines at ganking, which he can't do when solo since solo supporting locks the support down as a lane babysitter for the pos 1.

Good supports makes matches 10x easier to win since they can help secure the early and midgame, meaning if your cores fail with such an advantage they would have to be next levels of shit.
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i'd like to get off mr bones wild forced 50% wild ride now
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I feel a 10 loss streak soon...
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>>127316463
You should start going every single replay and check just how much HP you're burning through.
You can't even reliably armlet toggle now which makes it even worse.

People just have this old idea ingrained in their minds that "ck should get armlet!", not even realizing that the reasons pros even went with armlet on that hero was because of wisp.
This is no different from the people that still go manta and linken on medusa.
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>>127316463
>Chaos Knight is one of the fastest heroes in the game.
sey increases MS on %. that's just another reason to give him sey. MS is the most important stat of this game.

and you guys are all forgetting about battlefury and vladmir
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>me am into bloodseeker and pudge :)
>me brewmaster jungle :)
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>>127316656
>normal skill unranked

who cares
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>>127316672
I still go linkens on Medusa, but only when the enemy team calls for it otherwise it's Skadi.

Have never gone Manta on Medusa though.
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19-0 as jungle lc
i mean reddit said its bad...
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>>127316678
Vlads aura doesn't benefit illusions.
BF is good on him but as CK you should be farming heroes, not creeps. It doesn't mesh all that well on him since his main gimmick is to pull someone out of position, so the cleave won't usually hit much unless the enemy team is bum fuck retarded and clumps your death ball instead of throwing stuns out and magic until the illusions are dead.

>>127316672
I usually get a Heart second for this reason. But as CK you don't fight long fights, you ideally get a pickoff and then fuck off to kill a tower while your ult is still up. If you can get another kill chances are it'll be quick unless you're losing, in which Charles Armlet toggle can be a lifesaver.
I try to only turn on Armlet as I ult, then one shot a guy then turn it off. Switch it back on for a pull, off again once they're dead or if I can't hit anything immediately.
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>>127316937
Literally carried by the meepo and rubick
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>>127316937
>treads
Spot the shitter.
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>>127316937
You just prior posted a match where the deciding factor as to why your team lost was because of you and your jungle LC pick, yet you still learned nothing.

However because of these cherrypicked matches where you either got carried or were lucky enough to get matched vs complete trash you selectively choose to ignore all the matches you lost because of the jungle LC pick.
This is the perfect example of a bad player that won't improve.
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>>127317005
I know, but you also have a team and you need lifesteal m8.
and what is this new meme that BF is only for farming? you will your tard strenght damage on everyone near you in the team fight AND life stealing all that area damage aswell.

his ult is good m8, but you can't rely on it alone. you can play him almost like you play mortred.
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>buying smokes and just smoking your teammates without notifying them to make them get aggressive

Is this a legitimate tactic in pubs?
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>>127316937
It's a coin toss. You farm 8 minute blink dagger then what? If your team is winning 4vs5, you will likely to win the first few duels and snow ball from there. But if your team is losing 4vs5, you will likely lose the first duel or getting no bonus damage because you have no other items beside the blink dagger. If you stay in the jungle to farm more items then it will only prolong the 4vs5 period.

Your team is more likely losing than winning a 4vs5 early game, if they win then it's not because of you, you just stay in the jungle and play the autistic single player game vs creeps.
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Is the new Aghs on LC viable?
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