EDH/Commander General /edhg/

First for Gideon tribal

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>>55104638
>Thread Question: Ixalan spoilers are happening! Are you excited? Why or why not?

Gideons on top of Gideons

copy all the Gideons!

>>55104649

They will errata all PWs as legendary.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLu4Xw6tcCA
Don't care how jank the deck will be, I'm building it.

>>55104620
>wont be worth it in any other format other than EDH
>EDH is one of the most popular formats
>atraxa super friends is the most popular deck in EDH
>PW are now legendary
>wizards does not reprint expensive cards
>already short supply

its literally the perfect investment, passing on sisay right now is literally like saying no to free money

>>55104670
You can still control multiple different named gideons though.

What does everyone use for testing decks? I use Forge, but it's buggy as fuck, and it's a pain updating it to get new cards. Any better programs out there? I basically just want to be able to play vs AI and have access to every card

>>55104670
And? You can still vomit 7 Gideons on the field, give yourself an unremovable "You can't lose," emblem, and turn them all into indestructible creatures.

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>>55104638
Jace + doubling season = infinite jace.

Is that even good for anything other than making my opponents sick?

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R8 my wife

>>55104704
Infinite 2/2s at least

>>55104704
Are planeswalkers permanents, could mill em out with altar of the brood ?

>>55104638
>Are you excited? Why or why not?
just opened my c17 deck
this was poor timing

>>55104717
why are simic commanders so disappointing? rashmi is the only one thats even mildly interesting and its just a good stuff deck at the end of the day

>>55104726
They are.
>>55104704
If you have one attacker you can filter through your entire deck.

>>55104668
man I bought a mirror gallery like a week ago for wizard tribal
now I wonder if I should just sell it

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>tfw instead of being excited for each new set, you live in constant fear of what will Wizards fuck up next
Just stop releasing new sets, please

I mean
LEGENDARY
PLANESWALKERS

SHIEEEET

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>>55104683
>PW are now legendary

I can't hold all these planeswalkers!

>>55104740
1 mana cheaper and she'd be too stronk.
She's perfect for mana dorks.dec

>>55104704
>doubling season
>ult jace the dunning fagaway
>all clones get doubling seasoned
>use one clone to ult and the other to make an illusion
>repeat for infinity
>figure out a way to give them haste
>get boros charmed
>many keks

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>>55104649
>>55104668
Here's another leak from the next set.

>>55104683
>atraxa super friends is the most popular deck in EDH
proof? and don't give me that tapped out shit since people fucking put their precons on their and it clutters up edhrec. Same with decks that have been dismantled.
>wizards does not reprint expensive cards
Its literally already been reprinted, and if you think 10 burgers is expensive you should be aware that they just reprinted miraris wake on friday.

Finally its just not that good. I would rather have a djeru in a superfriends deck because it finds me my shit the turn it comes down, rather than dying before i untap. In a sisay deck i would just avoid most PW anyway since i would be going for a paradox engine win.

So, so far my Reki deck suddenly became more superfriends-y and my black deck got a new bit of grave hate.

What other stuff are you guys planning with today's spoilers and/or confirmed card text from leaks?

>>55104770
I hope the one I ordered arrives. I needed it for Mairsil even before the announcement.

>>55104717
finally a commander bad enough to justify playing cancer.dek

>>55104783
Rakdos Charm.

>>55104761
I live in constant fear of what investors will buy out next.

>>55104788
>Gideon of the Gideon
>Gideon with Eyes Wide Gideon
>Grand Arbiter Gideon the Zillionth
>Gideon, hound of Gideon

>>55104813
oh ya, my bad i get the charms mixed up sometimes

>>55104842
>Eight-and-a-Half-Gideons

>>55104793
>proof
literally edhrec my dude

>Finally its just not that good.
for now it isnt that great but all future PW will be legends so it will only get better with time. its an investment friendo get in on it now before its too late and you are one of those fags whining about card prices in the future

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>>55104788
>and have plainswalk

>>55104842
>Gideon's 1,000-Gideon March

>>55104704
>Jace + doubling season = infinite jace.

this might be a challenge for the gideons

>>55104793
>and don't give me that tapped out shit since people fucking put their precons on their and it clutters up edhrec
Oh yes, I forgot, "lots of people play Atraxa" is a more unreasonable claim than "Atraxa decks aren't real but all other decks are." Even if a third of Atraxa decks on tappedout were fake and no others were then Atraxa would still be the second most popular commander ever.

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>>55104842
False Gideon

>>55104869
>Can't even read
>Thinks non-reserve list cards are worth anything

The two of these are definitely related

>>55104788
So what happens if Gideon becomes a creature and then you copy that creature?

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>>55104816
Good thing my waifu is safe.

>>55104906
Ah, you're right. He probably needs to either say he becomes a legendary creature, or he's still a legendary planeswalker.

>>55104904
>non reserve list cards are not worth anything
>looks over at my foil goyf

>>55104948
>Notices your foil goyf

OwO what's this?

>>55104948
Future Sight or bust

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Atraxa is cancer

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>>55104981
I have something better

>>55104981
Whoops, almost got me.

>>55104996
>that flavor text
Card could've been so much more.

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>>55105007
>>55104981

>the dinosaurs have feathers
Fuck yeah. They're looking nice.

>>55104948
>Looks at FTV: Has a foil goyf
>Looks at MM: this time goyf is only a rare
>Duel decks: goyf vs goyf
>Goyf 2, a better goyf to surpass metal gear and make all other goyfs worthless

Enjoy your "secure" investment anon, I'll be sitting on a stack of foil grim monoliths and beta duals.

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>>55105026
If you're allowed face-down cards on the field before I cast something, so am I

>planeswalkers are all legendary
does this kill the format? i don't want to play a planeswalker deck.

>>55105045
>WotC repeals the Reprint policy
>Investors lose the lawsuit
>FtV: Duals
>Duel Deck: Duals
>Stacks of dual lands in fat packs

I mean, if you're going to go the "WotC can't be trusted and they'll tank the secondary market like it's Yugioh" route, you might as well assume they'll go full retard with it.

>>55104981
>Playing Slobad, Goblin Mastermind vs not 1 but 2 Atraxa decks
>Have a handful of 2 CMC rocks
>Both Atraxa players tap out to play their commanders on turn 4
>I untap and cast Wildfire
burningwaifus.jpg

>>55105068
You will play Atraxa and you will like it, now go buy a doubling season and a sisay before the investors buy them all.

>>55105068
Don't worry anon, you can always make a deck that goes infinite under turn 4

>>55104717
>voice of THUNDER
>not even red
Do they even care anymore?

What are some infinite combos in mono green ezuri?
>thread question
Does a bear shit in the woods? Motherfucking dinosaurs!

>>55105068
They can't be commanders without more rules changes on Sheldon's part.

The removal of the planeswalker uniqueness rule only affects Reki, Sisay, Empress Galina and like, Chandra or Gideon theme decks.

What if
Hold on
But what if
What if new packs had a tiny tiny (much less chance than lottery cards) to contain a reserve list card?

you know they're gonna do it at some point

>>55105119
Priest of Titania+Umbral Mantle/Wirewood Symbiote.

>>55105119
Concordant Crossroads, sac outlet, Nim Deathmantle, most elves.

>>55105068
>does this kill the format? i don't want to play a planeswalker deck.

do they magically turn into creatures?

No.

They can't be used as commanders, nothing will happen to the format

>>55104793
I love seeing these cEDH tryhards be blind to the rest of the world. MOST magic players are casuals.

In a cutthroat competitive game, Sisay is 4 mana and does nothing the turn she comes into play. She's not good there. In more relaxed games she survives longer and if you use her even just twice it's great value. Cutthroat EDH is fringe and the most spergy format, the players do not drive prices the way that the average players do. (Check the price of Laboratory Maniac)

>>55105068
>does this kill the format

Please explain what you mean. Do you also think that they are going to make all planeswalkers in to creatures instead too?

>>55105136
They did that in Zendikar.

>>55105136
>tiny tiny chance
Go die

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>>55105136
>you know they're gonna do it again at some point

>>55105136
They already did you dingus, look up zendikars treasures.

They also didn't have to break the reserve list to do it.

>>55105161
>>55105175

cool, I didn't play magic at that point in time

I hope they do it again

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>>55105136
>everyone else cracking ancestral recalls and dual lands
>you get a Kobold Overlord

>>55105136
Zendikar already did it

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>>55105115
The way I see it, lighting must always be red, but thunderclouds (like a storm over an ocean) could be blue)

>>55105082
Glorious. I like that each of the 2016 commanders are vulnerable to all of the dualC-hate cards(sans Autumn Veil)

>>55105203
>The way I see it, babies must always be black, but the parents white
Not following you fampai.

>>55105154
>If you run removal in your decks its somehow a cEDH deck

I don't know how you are thinking I am talking about cEDH when i said fucking djeru is better, who costs more than sisay does.

I'm just used to playing the game with my opponents having removal. Do yours not?

>>55105240
I'm used to playing games where Sisay isn't the only creature worth urgently removing.

>>55105232
I'm equating the thunderclouds to be more like torrential rainclouds than a thunderstorm

>>55105240
>dies to removal

What commander should I run?
I have a pretty competitive 1v1 Zur deck, but it can't stand up to the group hate when I'm playing multiplayer with friends, and I'm killed off asap because of threat potential. What multiplayer deck should I build that is consistent and can defend itself against possible group hate?

>>55105255
Are those things like elesh norn, dirty mike, or vorinclex? Because if they are then thats why you aim for sisay before she can tap. Doing otherwise is bad threat assessment. Maybe you only play with other tards on the shortbus though. It would explain why we are having this conversation.

>>55105264
when there is an alternative that doesnt its a pretty compelling argument

>>55104740
I think it is the same with dimir, the color combo is so strong on it's own that they can't print anything too powerful or it would break the format

>tfw wizards reveals a 2 mana removal that lets you draw a card

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>all the plens are wetting themselves over Sisay and Galina
>this new superfriends auto-include costs $0.07
Heh

>>55104704
Infinite Illusion Jace Bukkake. Liliana must be thrilled.

>>55105451
Everything above MP was already bought out on TCGPlayer and a playset of them is now $3 or $4 on eBay.

If you didn't already get them, the window is closing.

>>55104788
Can this be real? Please?

>>55105361
Mikaeus, Kaalia, Animar etc. At least Sisay doesn't combo off the whole table (or at least one player with Kaalia) within a single turn.

>>55104816
Life must be hell in burgerland where you can't enjoy the truly free market that is MCM

>>55105451
>superfriends slapping themselves with a spatula for extra mana

>>55105556
MCM isn't immune to buyouts.

>>55104638

FUCKING FLIP CARDS BECOMING STANDARD

FUCK

>>55105545
>At least Sisay doesn't combo off the whole table

Do you not know what paradox engine is? if you are playing a sisay deck i will absolutely kill sisay on site. She is more of a threat than kaalia.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

>>55105565
>jace clones spanking other jaces to get "mana"

>>55105620
Paradox engine is smalltime without mana rocks.

>>55105565
kinky

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>>55104672
I'm ready for this. Time to dust off my childhood collection of Jurassic Park toys. They will make glorious tokens.

>>55105620
>She is more of a threat than kaalia
Kaalia is a threat because she can shit out a free Iona on turn 3.
If it's turn 8 and Kaalia still doesn't have a stoopid strong board then they probably never will.

>>55104672
>4/5 for 4 that draws you cards for basically existing
We're not powercreeping we swear!

>>55105579
And yet it doesn't happen, because it's a free market where individuals trade with individuals while americlaps have to live in a "free" market where corporations trade with corporations.

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>>55104717
Smells a bit fishy desu

>>55105631
It works just fine with mana dorks. Speaking of which did you know that there are legendary dorks that sisay can tutor up? And that they often provide a lot of mana?

>>55105686
>and yet it doesn't happen
One example for all: All Is Dust

>>55105168
i never understood this. where do these cards come from? Are they reprinted from the printers? or are they from some giant collection that wizards still holds onto (and might be illegal)

>>55105704
that... wasn't really a coordinated buyout, was it? the price just went up because modern babbies started playing it in Tron or something

>>55105653
and sisay is strong because she can win the game in about the same time frame. Sisay will storm kill people with paradox engine, or set up a lock with hokori, or do some other bullshit.

Are you seriously telling me you don't consider sisay a kill on site general?

>>55105707
>or are they from some giant collection that wizards still holds onto (and might be illegal)
Why on earth would it be illegal to print extras 20 years ago and hold on to them? Because that's what they did.

>>55104638
Haha, OP, you seemed to have forgotten the Discord info. Here it is:

/tg/ EDH General Discord
https://discord.gg/UE9Vqzu

Don't beat yourself up about it though. Just try to be less forgetful next time.

>>55105691
How many of them have haste?

>>55105750
the hero we needed
not the hero we deserved
thank you based anon

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>>55105579
>>55105686
Fuck you buyouts happen on MCM

>pimping elfball deck
>turns into collecting old green foils
>only hollow, rofellos, etc left
>slowly saving up 'cuse expensive
>Ursa foils get bought up within a week
>cant find a single goddamn copy now
>mfw so close yet so far

>>55105707
They dug around their lots and got them off people.

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>>55105736
why are you arguing with retard? /tg/ is provably fucking awful at magic. you are wasting your time trying to convince some idiot that a repeatable tutor is good, if they dont already understand that they probably have a learning disability

>>55105741
isn't the whole reason why the reserve list a legal loophole because they stand to profit on them at any point?

>>55105750
You're late this time

>>55105792
>>55105741
>>55105707
the reserve list isnt a legally binding contract. why on earth do people think it is?

>>55105790
your right, imma stop shitting up the board with this.

So do we have any confirmation that hostage taker is getting day 1 errata or a rules change? I havent seen anything about that yet.

How many pieces of draw do you like to have in your deck?

How many tutors should you be running before you go for coffers/urborg in a 3+ color deck?

>>55105684
No one is blocking that so you have to spend cards to draw cards with him, it also only counts instances of damage instead of drawing a card per one damage.

Wait. So with this new rule, can you have a Gideon Jura and a Gideon, Champion of Justice out at the same time?

>>55105796
Sorry. Was on 2 week work training so catching up on everything at the office. I'll be more prompt next time anon. You deserve better.

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>>55105790
>to convince some idiot that a repeatable tutor is good
tick tock
tick tock

>>55105815
Its mainly because wizards treats it like one and does actually fear possible legal repercussion. If they didnt treat it like this then I don't think anybody would mention lawsuits.

That being said, if wizards didn't act like they were scared to break the reserve list it wouldnt be much of a force to keep people invested in the hobby. So whether or not its an act by wizards is up in the air, but they certainly behave like its legally binding.

>>55105815
>>55105792
Even if it was legally binding there's nothing in it that says "We won't include cards we have lying around in current sets."
>>55105853
https://twitter.com/EliShffrn/status/902187390063714306

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>>55105857
Or any other equivalent. Or just ping it with some pinger.

>>55105861
Yes, only their name has to be unique.

>>55105853
Matt Tabak on twitter. Day 0 errata so that it cannot target itself.

>>55105762
With cards that expensive and rare, the reach of the (((Americans))) go past the ocean.

It's pathetic that a card as common as Sisay literally can't be found on the US market while there are several dozens available on MCM all because of "investors".

>>55105908
so its being re-printed with the errata?

>>55105815
Because people are dumb.

>>55105930
>look on Tabak's twitter
>half the posts end with ;-P
This anger isn't rational but I'm keeping it.

>>55105923
that card is so fucking busted
repeatable burn effects are at BEST 1-1 mana
here you do 4 damage for 1 mana
fucking
busted

>>55106007
And yet it's just a colorshifted card that has existed since Alpha.

>>55106020
both are busted
though admittedly the black on is better because of coffers
if you are playing a creature light deck in either color and not running these you are doing it wrong
or you are playing in a turn 4 meta and well who gives a shit about those people

>>55105078
>tanks the secondary market like yugioh

Don't remind me anon, it hurts to look at my valks and exciton knights

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>yfw all the reserve list buyouts in the last few years were actually wizards buying back their own shit
>yfw they are the treasure cards in ixalan and ixalan 2
>best selling set ever
>investors reeeeeeeees are heard on other planes

>>55106043
They're basically expensive damage wraths unless you really cheese them, though, or did you not notice the sac clause?

>>55106043
There's also:
>indestructible
>regeneration
>pro-red/black
>million ways to disenchant it before you untap
Tbh even in Gisela I almost replaced it with Inferno

>>55105975
>investors
I honestly am going to use her now because of the change. There is a lot of genuine increase in demand.

>>55105983
When it's reprinted yes. Until then the Ixalan printing is not the oracle text.

>White vampires are Paladins of the Blood Fast
that sounds so cool

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>>55106090
>>55106089
stick a couple indestructible in your deck and its an expensive REPEATABLE wraths
its really sweet in pic related

>>55106061
When I first seriously got into Yugioh I bought a playset of Veilers and Maxx Cs for $150. Now I could get them for $20.

>>55105905
even if they did sue hasbro would literally bend them over in court and rape them. hasbro sues people for

>>55106387
>tfw players of secret and ulti veilers and max c
>tfw knew a guy who spent like 500$ on kozmo dark destroyer when It came out
>tfw my 900$ pumped nekroz deck isn't worth anything
>tfw they banned ulti cannahawk

I wasn't ready for these feels anon I really wasnt

>>55104717
Aaaaaand STRAIGHT into Animar.

>>55106463
holy fuck its true you can bounce her multiple times

>>55106086
no one at wizards is smart enough to think that far ahead. most of them probably dont even know how to tie their shoes

>>55106426
I understand your feels bro, I hope magic never becomes playable for new people because the 8 people who still play legacy will remain players who buy standard packs forever

>>55106387
>>55106426
>>55106592
>They act like this is a bad thing
As someone whom plays YGO and MTG, fuck off. I wish Wizards would adopt Konami's reprint policy. The price of this game is fucking ridiculous.

>Bloodline Keeper is 20 bucks
Man, peoole really hyped on this vampire train.

ixalan looks real sweet t b h

>>55106623
fuck is it really? it was 10$ when I last checked

>>55106061
I would rather the value of all the cardboard tanked until everything is worth pennies than have garbage like goyf being worth hundreds and stuff like manabases being the price of a cheap car.

>>55104740
I like Zegana, she's simple but that's what I like in my generals.

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>>55106622
>The price of this game is fucking ridiculous.

RRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEE FUCKING POORFAG GET A JOB RRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEE

>>55104717
too expensive but it's in green so it's ok / 10

>>55106622
>>55106660
It's not konamis repro t policy that bothered me. I have all that stuff because I wanted shiny cardboard in all my decks.

It's konamis backlist and endless powercreep that makes me upset. My card is worthless because they needed to sell new sets

That being said i totally agree that mtg investors are fucking cancer

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What do you guys think about going from a ramirez depietro pirate tribal (black and blue) to pic related. Think it would be worth it to add another color or think I should stay with dimir colors?

>>55106783
Green can get her out turn 4~5, any expensive general in green basically gets 2 CMC slashed off of its cost just for being green.
>>55106796
Yeah, konami's banlist basically exists purely to push new product.

>>55106771
I have two EDH decks collectively valued at over $1,000. And those can be considered "budget" to some players. I make 75k per year, I am not a poorfag. This game is asininely expensive, I shouldn't have a down payment on a car worth of cardboard sitting in a $35 deck box and $15 worth of sleeves.

>>55106818
>Grixis pirate leader is a fat old woman

I find no charm in New art. I really wish I had played during lorwyn

>>55106818
Pirate tribal will be awful regardless. Choose whatever flavor you like and stick with it.

>>55106818
Adding another color can be helpful, and Admiral is better for pirate tribal then Ramierz.


Shame that Admirals ability will probably never happen

>>55106818
Another Ramirez player here, sitting in the same boat as you, so to speak. I'm probably going grixis with it, but no longer having Ramirez as commander feels pretty bad. Also ree @ the influx of pirate players ruining my special snowflake tribe.

>>55106842
look i JUST bought a tropical island with my savings and i will NOT have it devalued because poorfags like you can't into edh. pick another hobby if you dont want to spend 1500 dollars on manabases

>>55106944
>1500 dollars on manabases
You are part of the problem.

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>>55104704
>Justice league is kill
>they bring back jace anyway
just fuck my shit up senpai

>>55106844
>waah why won't WOTC only have art of sluts and sluts only

same reaction when kess full art was revealed.

>>55106900
I can't imagine this getting a lot of play with planeswalkers when it's ETBT, 2 life per activation and only colorless mana.

>>55106900
You know that if tis was worth it, itd already be played since you always have at least one important legendary spell T all times in most commander decks, right?

>>55106983
>there is nothing in between
>men don't exist either

>>55106975
They were never killed, and splitting up the cancer that was Chandra and Nissa can only be good. Gideon returns to Theros and frees an undead Mardu Elspeth W H E N.

what's the chance we'll see a birds of paradise reprint for this set?
fits the ixalan world and the "add one colour" thing they seem to have going (treasures)
but it was printed recently in conspiracy

i'm gonna say no but i'd love a new ixalan themed art for it

>>55106375
It's much shittier for black though, since most of the time you're on lower health than everybody else.

>>55106623
>tfw just bought a foil one for 13€ on mcm

It was the last one, investors are filth. I hope they spike bloodghast tho, I have a playset of that.

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>>55106842
>>55106944

>>55106983
When did I saw I wanted sluts? Freyalise is fine, thalia is fine, Azusa, the pain chick who's name I forgot, mizzix, baneslayer angel, the enchantresses, Chandras mom are all example of female characters that aren't terribly designed fat old women

I mentioned lorwyn because the storybook style was incredible

>>55107046
at least your commander gains life

>>55106983
to be fair, none of the pirates look slutty, which is kind of a failure. Sure, knights and shit should be heavily armoured badasses regardless of gender, but pirates of either gender should be wearing as few clothes as possible. When you hit the water every bit of clothing you have on you is going weigh you down and be cumbersome as hell.

On top of that piracy is one of those professions you don't find many old people in. If you live long enough to grow old as a pirate, it means you were a good pirate and you can retire. If you were a shit pirate you never got the chance to grow old.

That and its a pretty active lifestyle. Definitely not for grandmas

>>55107082
When you aren't losing life, that is.

>>55107087
The old lady has nothing better to do in life, she gets the heebie jeebies when she's not out buccaneering and plundering.

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>art has an ugly dude
>"lmao look at this fuckin guy this art is flavorful and interesting"
>art has an ugly womyn
>"fucking wotc sjw cucks pandering to females and numales, stop bringing politics to card games you fucking liberals"

>>55106818
First, I'm kinda disappointed at the fat lady. It's not the worst design they could have gone with, but for the all-pirate-color-covering pirate lord legendary of making EDH pirate dreams come true, I wish they'd gone with the stereotypical dude-with-crazy-beard. Geoffrey Rush's Hector Barbossa or Tim Curry as Long John Silver, the pirate from the Merchants and Marauders box cover, maybe Captain Hook even if he has a mustache and not a beard. Heck, look at any image or interpretation of Blackbeard, down to the period woodcuts depicting him. That, my friends, is what the boss of all pirates should look like. Beckett Brass... I mean I'll buy that as a decadant pirate captain lady, I'm, not going to be upset unless we manage to get zero saucy pirate wenches in two sets (Even under current WotC one shouldn't be too much to ask) but I feel like the design should have gone to a sub-commander like Lannery Storm (whose own art isn't bad. At least she's not wearing a phantom of the opera mask like I thought from the blurry leak version, that would have been a baffling stupid design choice)

It's like if they had made Gisharth some lesser-known dino instead of a T-rex.

As to her abilities, I mean, this was already a known factor. She's shit, but if you want to play pirate tribal she's your cap'n. Especially since the red pirates look pretty good so far. I mean, there's Furnace of Rath Pirate who's probably worth the include alone.

>>55107026
>Gideon returns to Theros and gets spitroasted by gay kings and makes indestructible gargled cum fart tokens
ftfy

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>>55106844
To be fair the full art makes her look a bit thinner then the card art where she comes off pretty rotund.

>>55107087
>most fanserviced "Pirates" out of all named Pirates are Jace and a topless muscle man
I'm fine with the players into guys also get something to look at every once in a while, especially with Garruk not being there as a constant testosterone bomb anymore, but they better at least have some Pirate con-artist seductress chick stealing shit from your opponent in one of these two sets.

>>55106983
>Lowryn was all art of sluts
It looked like a children's storybook, dumbass.

>>55106944
>He had to save up for a fucking card
What a loser

>>55107188
Can someone make a betty white version of this like they did with kess?

Any advice on this Edgar deck. Been playtesting a lot with it on xmage and its really solid.

What do you think I should add/cut?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/edgar-markov-and-his-swarm/

>>55107188
I really like the "old-ass, last generation Pirate queen" idea they had and badass old people are always some degree of fun, but she just looks not nearly enough like a roughened veteran of the seas and more like a chubby, cute grandma in cosplay.

At least she's not Kess levels of bad and wears clothing more befitting her age and figure.

>>55107187
Kangz died hundreds of years before Gideon was born. Stop being retarded.

>>55107087
I kind of agree with you but a) we have almost no commons and uncommons. Even modern SJW-riddled WotC has thrown us a bone in the form of a good looking lady every opportunity so far. Not as many as some might like or remember, but it happens, and pirates are begging for it. and 2) the fancy mass of coats and shit is pretty damn pirate when you're talking captains or a self-described "Admiral" Maybe not authentic but if Hook can rock it so can Ixalan Pirate Captains.

>>55107188
this art is great, i dont get why you guys are hating.
i like how it looks like she broke the boat when she swung in

>>55107215
shut up you timmy fuck, you wouldn't stand a chance against my meren combo deck

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>>55107271

>>55107188
I like her, but I'm pretty sure I'm not supposed to feel "great, it's a cute granny" when talking about a pirate captain, she's basically old Mother of Runes tier.

>>55107188
Yeah, that does look a good deal better. Also the chick swinging in on the lower right means they haven't totally forsaken the idea of female crew in the style guides.

She may still be the first card ever that I alter or have altered, though.

>>55107188
Is that j.k rowling

>>55107188
It's pirate Meryl Streep.

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>>55107310
I cant unsee that now.

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>>55107188

>>55107270
/r/ing Betty Whire shooped over Miley Cyrus on a wrecking ball with a pirate hat.

>>55107032
Standard can't handle a mana dork that good

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>>55107228
This perhaps?

>>55107343
Ugh im on my phone and at work so give me a while

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>>55107287
Mommy isn't a grandma anymore.

>>55107228
>>55107228
Any thoughts on running the god weapon enchantments or Purphoros God?

>>55107404
>1/1
>She will not touch a weapon

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>>55107404
Hence the "old".

>>55107155
>false equivalence: the post

>>55107389
not enough cards are in that would require it, I did playtest with it a bit and it felt like a dead draw most of the times.

>>55107421
nope, would be shit with the deck

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>that raptor

Thank you for giving my Marath deck infinite draw wizards

>>55107438
Apparently I can't read today, sorry.

>>55107435
>>1/1
>>She will not touch a weapon
She throws a mean punch though.

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>>55107505
Nah, no big deal.

>>55107545
>settle
>not scuttle
why

>>55107494
>have infinite mana and +1/+1 counters
>could blast each player to death
>blast your own creature instead
You don't have a Marath deck, do you anon?

>>55107567
I do. However drawing cards is fun.

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>>55107563
Because.

>>55104717
>finally get Maro commander I alwayed wanted
>7 mana
JUST

>>55107188
>Pirate Mom
Fuck I hope there's enough good pirates to make this a thing.

>>55107584
>have wincon
>don't win
It's a dick move.

>>55107389
I assume this is essential for any tribal deck?

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>suddenly spikes to 20$

Is vampire tribal really that good now?

>>55107666
She's green, you can literally just slash 2 off of her cost.

>>55107764
No, it's purely to try and profit off of newbies that don't know better.

>>55107764
its really strong. the fact that every creature you cast gives you a free creature, which can then be pumped...yeah
not to mention mardu colors have basically all the removal you would ever want

>>55107766
5 mana for a non-green commander is also pretty rough

>>55107764
I think it's more a flavor of the month deal than anything, but it's definitely the strongest its ever been.

>>55107764
If you have three vampires out and cast this, you can flip it for an extra black on the same turn for a lord that pumps other vampires by +2/+2

I'd say thats worth $20

Is there any way to avoid graveyard hate as Meren? I can't figure it out

>>55107764
I need it for Mairsil. Surprisingly few dudes that tap to make dudes.

>>55107870
Golgari has plenty of enchantment and artifact removal for stuff like RIP, Cage, or Anafenza.

You just gotta deal with Bojuka Bog. No real way around it.

>>55107864
and then pump out 4/4 vampires which can be pumped even more

>>55107870
It's like targeted removal and Kaalia.
Either your curve out beautifully or you fold.

>>55107870
Don't go all in every time. Meren honestly does okay against most grave hate in comparison to some other generals.

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>>55107870
You could shuffle it all back and later deal with the enchant that is fucking you over.

>>55107890
>You just gotta deal with Bojuka Bog. No real way around it.
Worms of the Earth can hold the bog back a little. If you absolutley must stop it you can use Living Plane + Torpor Orb.

>>55107997
>Worms of the Earth
why wouldnt you just take the 5 damage?

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>>55107343
5 mins in ms paint

>>55108046
Probably Revoker or Pithing Needle holding back.

Also wtf that's the weirdest card I've ever saw.

actually the best way to deal with bojuka is to expect your opponents to interact with you in the first place, and not leave important shit laying around in your graveyard for no reason

grave hate happens, deal with it

>>55108046
In 1v1 or if you have to Bog meren RIGHT NOW or lose. Worms is a political card, rarely does someone WANT to be the table's hero and take 5 to the face for the benefit of all.

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Dear /edhg/,

I have an idea for a deck, but it hinges on a few things. My question for you is whether there exists any draw spells requiring only one generic mana to cast. I plan to have Grand Arbiter Augustin as the commander, and try to run a deck consisting only of spells costing one generic mana. It'd probably be shitty, but also fun.

>>55108072
Sadly you can't Pith worms. If you want to be evil about it, though, Eon Hub makes the worms unstoppable.

>>55108087
Wut. Worms of the Earth is literally lava axe. Lava axe isn't playable in edh.
Honestly it's even worse than lava axe.

>>55108106
Short answer is no.
Long answer is look up the eggs archetype and see if that's what you want to do.

>>55108130
"Hey anon, you can eat lava axe, or you can wait for one of your other opponents to eat it instead."

Who eats the Lava Axe?

>>55108176
Literally the guy that goes to the left of you, assuming he has lands in hand and is at a comfortable life total. If you had lava axe you at least might be able to kill someone with it. I would take 5 life over the tempo hit every time, unless I was at risk of dying to it. And if I had to pay the five life to bog Meren I definitely would.

The card is worse than lava axe anon.

>>55107032
Apparently even things like Llanowar elves are too strong of a mana dork for standard, so they probably think birds would break the format or some bullshit

>>55108106
there seems to be a few "sac to add mana, when it hits the graveyard draw a card" artifacts.
Conjurer's Bauble
Chromantic Star / Sphere
And two of each blue and white spellbomb

>>55108369
Are we in a place now where Shock is considered too good?

Wotc are such cocksuckers. When tey brought Lightning Bolt back into Standard for a few years it was extremely well received and made the game more fun.

>>55104704
I'm excited for this planeswalker change. It kind of makes sense, if you consider that people can manipulate time and you can basically bring over 2 jaces from alternate universes, you just can't bring 2 of the same guy.

But Gideons though. Gideon tribal can be a thing, and can be strong, I hope this motivates them to make more different planeswalkers.

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>being concerned about filthy, uncivilized, grimy, criminal, masculine pirate bitches when Grixis just got its cutest and smartest cutie yet

Shit taste, all of you.

>>55105689
I never noticed there was a fucking brick with the fish.

>>55108506
Your wizard might be cute, but pirates are fun, Anon. FUN!

>>55108323
You're playing in theoryland, anon. The player to the left of you looks at the player to the left of him and asks "Is this land drop worth 5 life to me?" and more often than not passes the opportunity in my experience.

Don't get me wrong, Worms of the Earth is a bad card. But it's one of those weird, dumb bad cards that now and again hack's a table's brain to delightful effect.

>>55108506
inalla is shit
becket brass is hilarious

>>55108506
>She's pretty enough to overlook the shitty asymmetrical facial tattoo

Feels good for once.

>>55108581
>implying you always have a land drop in hand

>>55108634
If you don't there's not much point in eating 5 now is there?

>>55106818
>Beckett Brass was a fat granny
Godamn it wotc. I don't have a problem with a granny here or there, but as a captain leader? Seriously? Her cookies must be delicious to make so many ill-mannered and rude pirates under her thumb.

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>>55108506
>Shit taste, all of you.
>looking to grixis for qts
shiggy

>>55108729
Bet she knit their clothings herself.

>>55108683
its literally better as a spell that does nothing in vial smasher than it is as a spell in a regular deck with all that text

>>55106818
>>55107188
>one of the hallmarks of satan is that he makes things ugly

>>55106818
>>55107188

>she isn't even fat or ugly, just old

why couldn't we have gotten some really fat lady who looks like she drinks seawater

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>>55108918
I;d like to say you couldn't be stupid enough to think a card like that is worse than vanilla, but I've been on the internet for more than a day so anything's possible.

>>55105815

B-but muh 'promissory estoppel'

That's what smart asses who read a bit of leagalese on the internet usually claim while having no real education in law.

>>55105707
they "just found some lying around". I started playing a few years ago and have seen box openings of that old shit. Imo the cards shouldnt look so fresh repacked unless every employee was wearing gloves and given blowjobs to ignore the hundos they were putting in.

>>55109095
if you have vial smasher out a random do nothing 6 drop does 6 damage to a random opponent
without vial smasher it does 5 damage to a random opponent (first to want to play a land)

>>55109117
5* not 6

>>55107188
This shit looks like a fucking parody of SJW art.

>>55107240
>At least she's not Kess levels of bad and wears clothing more befitting her age and figure.
I never even knew she was old until right now. I even have her card.

>>55107270
>i dont get why you guys are hating.
She simply doesn't look the part.

>>55107188
this is reaching final fantasy tiers of belts = ropes

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>>55109260
>yfw her cape is a sail

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>>55107188
>wearing rope around her neck

>>55108581
>The player to the left of you looks at the player to the left of him and asks "Is this land drop worth 5 life to me?" and more often than not passes the opportunity in my experience.
Are you playing against people with legitimate mental handicaps?

>>55109302
>>55109271
Why are the ropes on her arm tied to a bigger rope? Is it so she doesn't fall off?

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>>55107188
>a fucking rope on her neck
Why are Magic fans such sjw cucks?

>>55109330
If there's anything a pirate knows, it's Becket Brass's ropes, the symbol of her piracy.

>>55109330
Yes, she's well passed her days or swachbuckling.
>Alright now deary, give me a push so I can make it to the other ship.

>>55108729

Her crew are all her children and grandchildren.

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>>55107188
She should have been ugly
I want her to be pic related

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Seems pretty gud

>>55109521
>makes treasures
this is good
>makes you win
this is bad
Who liked mechanized production?

>>55109596
>Who liked mechanized production?
I do
MECHANIZED CLUES

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>for each creature that died this turn

wrath's best friend

>>55109677
This + that new legend are going straight into edgar.

>>55109694
All three rare vampires are, even vampire sun titan

>>55109727
Forgot about Sun Vampire, but yeah that one too. A shame sanguine sacrament isn't that interesting.

That new gravehate is going to be interesting in Anafenza.

C18 is now allied color pairs, but using the least effective way of playing those colors. What are the decks?

"Hey, that card looks like it might be fun. I wonder what some stuff I could use with it is."

>Every card related to it is bought out and spiked %400 and TCG price hasn't even updated.

I'm not crazy, speculation has gotten worse than it used to be, right?

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If I attack with Tilonalli's Skinshifter and copy my Combat Celebrant, can I exert it?

>people actually bothered that a dumpy middle-aged bitch is a pirate.

I hate the pandering wotc is doing with shit like Samut and Kaya because their characters suffer for it but I'd say this comes off as just plain inclusiveness. It's fine, it's nice.

This pirate bitch is more interesting than Samut or Kaya ever were. I just hope they don't go and make her a dyke 'because dykes are tough and a middle-aged pirate captain bitch may as well be a dyke.'

Here's hoping.

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>>55109828
>I'm not crazy, speculation has gotten worse than it used to be, right?

>>55109855
Literally one of the ones I was looking at. There is no way making planeswalkers legendary is suddenly going to make her $30

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why is this guy so fucking expensive

>>55109884
Because he's Goyf levels of fuckup

>>55109850

think people are just tired of ugly old white ladies showing up in cards. I don't need to be reminded of my inlaw when playing magic.

>>55109828
Currently it seems like every investor is hellbent on buying out any tribal related card in existance. Fucking shared animosity doubled in price just because

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no more gravecrawler, no more baby jace

>>55109878

the buyouts have gotten pretty ridiculous yes, but this card won't retain a $30 price tag unless it sees some serious play. Even in EDH I don't think this card can really put in that much work.

>>55109783
Post Anafenza list.

>>55109919

well it was the tribal shit along with the fact that The Locust God pretty much OTKs with it, and all the HoU gods were hot shit last month.

>>55109897
>tfw just sold goyf for 60 bucks

easiest money of my life

>>55109855
>5 mana
>costs two to activate
>does nothing the turn she hits the field
>only really going to see play in casual edh

Sure is worth 30$.

>>55109967
>just 60 bucks

>>55109982
Goyf doesn't see that much play anymore, give it another masters set and noble hierarch will be more expensive than goyf. :^)

>>55109920
I could see myself running this in decks I normally wouldn't want to run Rest in Peace, as in every deck with Eternal Witness.

>>55109855
>Edh was a format made for legends
>card never saw play
>planeswalkers are now legends
>omg $30
>still sees no play
>investors gon invest
People shitting up the game even more
Unless its ABUR Ant/Leg there is no possible way its an investment

>>55110053
Once her price has gone back to normal I might try to run her in patron of the moon.

>>55109843
no

>>55110053
I have run her in the past and it's a pretty decent ability. It scares the shit out of everyone and puts a big target on you though so it's hard to use profitably.

Stealing planeswalkers is fringe but also a unique ability. I bet she never goes below 10$.

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>tfw this is allowed

>>55110053
Also Arabian Nights of course. My mtg investment goal is to collect a full set of Legends. I play a lot of the cards in EDH and getting 1 of each would make it a true collection to take pride in.

>>55110103

yeah price memory will keep her high for sure, but this is not a $30+ card. Speculators are going to seriously start hurting this format though unless Wizards starts doing some aggressive reprints.

>>55110124
>>55110103
I ordered it for 7 bucks today for Mairsil. I don't think this'll last.

>>55110122
I hope you have two expensive cars to sell.

>>55109944
Okay, but don't get mad when it's $800 of goodstuff and a few hate pieces.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/anafenza-hates-you-3/

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can't touch this fish

>>55109855
Out of curiosity, how expensive is Captain Sisay right now in the States?

>>55108506
>2.017x10^3
>wanting 2spoopy4u cultist spikefest
>not wanting gunnery granny vorthos valhalla
>shiggitydiggity

>>55110168

she's $40 on TCGplayer right now, but her spike was back when the ixilan sheet was leaked since you could read the legendary text on Jace.

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>>55110168
speculators on top of speculators

>>55110214
I feel so sorry for you. She's €20 in Europe, though that's still basically quadruple since June.

>>55110226
Gross, she will not even see play outside of edh and maybe some fringe legacy deck.

>>55110248

this is probably more accurate >>55110226

tcgplayer only has like 6 copies of the card left. so this card could easily hit $60 in the next few days.

>>55110141
I only mean 1 of each card, not 4. Tabernacle is 1k, Moat is 500, Abyss/Chains/Nether Void together is about 1.2k.

I'm estimating the entire set costs about 5k. It's doable over time.

>was on time to get Patron Wizard, Urza's Incubator, Wanderwine Prophets, Riptide Laboratory before the Spike
>wanted Sisay and Galina but too late because lol pricespike
>constant paranoia now of cards that will spike up in the future

Who can we erase from this world to stop this ridiculous speccing bullshit

>>55110162
This thing is infringing on Kira's copyright. Someone at wotc is blatantly trying to make a merfolk version of Kira because Legacy Merfolk decks played Kira years ago.

>>55110270
EDH investing is getting more and more profitable however.

>>55110374
>got a foil bloodline keeper for 13€ before the investors strike

Shared animosity is also 4.50€ for an italian version on mcm, guess I made the right choice to go with vamps instead of wizards.

>>55110270
Doubling Season and Atraxa don't see play outside of EDH either.

>>55110420

yeah MCM is generally a lot less volatile when it comes to spikes compared to the US. If it wasn't for shipping I'd probably be getting a lot of my cards through there instead.

>>55110396
This is someone looking at kira and going "hey lets try and make modern merfolk in standard"

>>55110214
>planeswalkers in edh
Wat?