EDH/Commander General /edhg/

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>>55111573
I'm embracing my inner Timmy.

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>>55111613
Ill see your book and raise you an 80s cartoon

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>>55111573
I almost made Kambal my newest commander, ended up going with pic related

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Fourth for Vampires.

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>>55111637
Feel free to do that. Dinotopia has some truly spectacular art, I really do recommend finding a hard copy, James Gurney is an influence on a lot of MtG artists.

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>>55111573
>Any Ixalan legends you are excited to build around? How are you going to build their deck

The only way this deck could be made for me even more is they were Dinosaur Dragons.

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Building this guy, post spicy tech

>>55111703
Daru Spiritualist

>>55111683
Same here.
But Goring Ceratops makes me angry.
7 MANA 3/3.
AND IS RARE TOO.
FUCK YOU.

>>55111703
Tree of Perdition

I badly need to reform this deck, but what direction should I take it in for maximum shenanigans? Maybeboard is stuff I've been perusing in my free time (though there are a couple shitty cards in there I haven't gotten around to removing); I'm already planning to cut the taxes, GA/Pili-Pala meme combo, and replace Magus with Memnarch.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/perpetual-motion-machine-1/

what is the most special snowflake tribal deck possible? gorgon?

What is the most meta slave/no fun allowed one? Vampires?

Are there any obnoxious staple cards taht should be banned, like Sol Ring or Cyclonic Rift?

>>55111683
The problem with dinosaur tribal is that support for it will be very far in between, since dinosaurs doesn't fit in 99% of the sets.

>>55111745
Also maybe tree of redemption if you can give lifelink at instant speed

>>55111771
Why can't they just put dinosaurs in core sets? Come to think of it, they can cram dinosaurs into way more setting than you think.

What do you guys think about proxy alter commander cards? I mean someone who takes a commander, goes to a proxy maker, maybe puts it in a extended art frame and puts a completely different are for the card? Would you let him play with it or just request to have the original card?

My playgroup is kinda conflicted on this issue.

>>55111756
why ban sol ring? mana crypt I could potentially see because of price point but even then not really

>>55111771
Well, we are getting 2 set worth, plus maybe something in Dominaria.
There were dinosaurs there, right?

>>55111819
>objecting to people making all of their cards into qt animu grills
As long as all of the rules text is there, what's the problem?

>>55111819
I understand being iffy on proxies into multiple decks when they only own one copy or none at all, but why could it possibly matter if it's a straight alter or something, as long as it's legible?

>>55111819
I would be ok with it either if they own the actual card and can pull it out to show it or if its an actual alter done on the real card. Im not ok with people using that to just skimp out on buying expensive cards

>>55111573
>thread question

I was thinking about building Ramirez De Pietro for pirate tribal around the time the sheet got leaked so it is nice to get a catch all pirate captain. Wish the ability was better and that it was a grizzled middle aged man or a young sexy lady Instead of a granny. But what ever, it will still be fun.

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I started working on building a Neheb deck recently. Anyone have any spicy secret tech?

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>>55111888
those alters

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>>55111905

>>55111907
Someone paid to have this priceless cardboard defaced in such a way.

>>55111968
>priceless
Except it has a price, which he paid.

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>$29.00 on TCGplayer

I felt like an idiot buying 2 of them for $10 two days ago and I got the vampire deck so I own 3 but what the fuck? This price cant hold.

>>55111991
I'm sure it'll dip back down, but certainly not back to $10. You did good.

>>55111991

yeah it's a buyout for some reason. Only a page left on tcgplayer. doesn't really make much sense to buyout something like this so early from release.

>>55111905
illicit auction
acidic soil
kaboom

>>55111982
Probably with autismbucks. Your tax dollars financed this disaster.

>>55111905
Price of Progress

>>55112015
Have investors ever been this rampant before?

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>>55111754
>most special snowflake tribal deck
Eye

On a more serious note, imps are an extremely fringe type that has enough creatures to build a deck out of, but they're mostly bad creatures. http://www.smileylich.com/mtg/magocracy/visual/Imp_[Tribal]_visual.html

Slivers and maybe now vampires are more aggressive tribal decks that pose an actual threat without totally relying on Coat of Arms effects to win.

>>55112048
I don't pay taxes :^)

>>55111819
I would definitely play with it. 4/5 times they look dumb but it doesn't affect the game so it's all good.

>>55111838
>price point
By that logic the dual lands would be banned.

This is a casual format so you should play whatever you're comfortable with and come to agreements with the people you play with.

>>55111869
>I understand being iffy
What difference would it make if they resleeved and moved cards around in between games? That would just be a waste of time.

hey hey ho ho this shitty format has got to go

>>55111968
there's people who pay 20 dolars for a shitty sketch of a bad designed character while still living on a minuscule flat so i'm not even surprised

>>55111819
alters are ok as long as it has something to do with the actual card. proxies are not ok unless it is for testing purposes and you plan on buying the card

>>55112155
It just seems to be right at the edge. I don't personally care, but there's more of an argument against that than there is regular old alters

>>55111573

Is there any reason to avoid lowering the average CMC of the spells in my deck? I undestand edh is supposed to be slower but I really don't like just loading my deck down with multiple spells that are 6 CMC or greater. I don't use any mana rocks that cost more than 2.

>>55112080

well recently it's felt like there are a lot more people trying to "invest" in magic. Think what happened was that last years commander decks jumped up value super hard due to lack of product, so a lot more people are trying to get in on this year's commander decks in hope's of getting some easy cash.

Teferi's Protection is kind of interesting due to Phasing. It probably won't see any sort of reprint for a while, but could easily find itself in another supplementary product. The card can't be worth $30 though, the entire deck itself is like $35-40 MSRP, and a single card can't carry that much value by itself.

>>55112206

>a single card can't carry that much value by itself

at least not while the product is still widely available*

>>55111754
I tried making "Lich" tribal work, but it's just too much of a crap-shoot since so few of the Zombie and Wizard tribal cards are both.

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>>55111991
>tfw got 4 for 10 a piece

>>55111991
AND YOU FAGGOTS LAUGHED AT ME FOR BUYING 30 OF THEM WHEN THEY WERE 10 DOLLARS EACH

WHO IS LAUGHING NOW?

>>55112255
I'll stop laughing when you move them.

>>55112255

better start selling them now.

>>55111991
There is no obvious Flusterstorm/True Name Nemesis in this commander set so I think people are just assuming that this must be the constructed playable card.

It's not actually going to be a significant Legacy/Vintage card like those were though so the 30$ price is a meme (unless the print run is tiny).

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Aside from Doubling Season memes, does he have a spot in any deck you can think of? 3 mana for continuous looting might be good in certain strategies.

I love his new design. The outfit looked so weird with the cloak contrasting it, but the shorter hair and asymmetry really help it come together.

>>55112352
You can just admit you're gay. As for the card, it seems pretty weak unless you're doing some sort of ophidian/looting theme. Honestly, kind of weak even then given that you can just run Coastal Piracy.

>>55112352
maybe something like Sygg or Edric?

>>55112352

fuck jace
fuck maro
fuck you

>>55112080
There have always been silly reactions to new printings or rule changes. When Laboratory Maniac was first spoiled I went online and ordered a playset of Levelers for $1 or less and the next day he spiked to 5$ or something stupid. There is a combination of more literally autistic people playing magic and trying to profit from it and a more concrete change in that the game keeps getting older.

Speculators and normal demand are more and more impactful as the game gets older and the number of players keeps increasing. Sisay and Empress Galina are 17 years old and Galina has never been reprinted. There are tons of non-investors today that just want to buy one copy of her so that they can steal a planeswalker from their friend who plays superfriends.

Drop of Honey is a more radical example. It's a rare from Arabian Nights and this year it started seeing a very small amount of play in Legacy sideboards so the price went from around 200$ to around 450$ extremely quickly. Speculators are part of the problem but get so mad at them that it is easy to ignore the tiny supply.

>>55112352
Jace the body sculptor

>>55112348

I disagree, the price on this card is for its being a new edh staple, on the level of Cyclonic Rift, because it's the Cyclonic Rift answer

>>55112206
>and a single card can't carry that much value by itself.
That is exactly what Flusterstorm and TNN did though. Even while those decks were on shelves those cards cost 30$.

Why is there still no "destroy all creatures and all artifacts" wipe?

>>55112453

I don't think TTN and Flutterstorm where super high cost when the sets were only a week old. Once they found a home in older formats, then yeah their prices spiked. The decks themselves were a lot harder to come by too due to a short print run, and increased a ton in value from MSRP. The current product is still going to be wildly available and easy to find so there's no reason for Tefferi's Protection to hold a $30 value.

>>55111991
>tfw bought one for 3 euro
That's for reprinting Zedruu in front of my nose you kikes

>>55112506
I was there and they were 20$+ from release. People knew how good they were from when the were spoiled. TNN didn't have any kind of Tarmogoyf effect where it was underrated for a while. Flusterstorm is only played in Vintage but it was identified as a top tier counter spell immediately. I'm still shocked that Vintage +cEDH is enough demand to keep Flusterstorm at $80.

>>55112492
Austere Command is almost that

Are the Amazon prices currently worth it ($50.00-$55.00) for the C17 precons? Neither my local Target nor Walmart have stocked the pre-cons, and it the next closest one is a good 40 miles away.

>>55112905
no

I need as many R/W ways to dodge "exile all creatures" or "tuck all creatures" boardwipes as possible. I already have Ghostway, Eerie Interlude, Teferi's Protection, and Legion's Initiative. What other options are there?

>>55112905
>Neither my local Target nor Walmart have stocked the pre-cons
That's better than being sold out. I would ask them for info on when they come in and try to get them for MSRP. The decks are only a week old so I think there are more coming.

>>55113051

4 is more than enough, 3 seems better but do as you will

>>55112587
Teferi's protection isn't played in either and honestly it's just a novelty card

He can't protect you from Aetherflux Storm or Labman, and I don't think a 3 mana don't lose will cut it in vintage

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>>55112352
I want Jace to cum inside me

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>>55113051
Planar Guide, but it blinks everyone's creatures.

>>55113051
That's all of them unless you can repeat Flickerwisp's ability enough times to flicker your board.

>>55113146
Still good against the wrath-playing control deck.

>>55113099

My friend runs Esper control and has 10-12 boardwipes against my tribal combat deck, so I want as many options as possible, even if I don't use them all.

>>55113146
>>55113159

Thanks, anons.

>>55112352
Not edh but Im thinking of him taking a spot in some U/W monument decks in standard right now
I'll put one in spymaster

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>Realizing a couple days later you could have won a game you lost

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>>55113289
>Figuring out your one out 30 seconds after you scoop

>>55113051
Sac Outlet + Second Sunrise/Faith's Reward
Glorious End

>>55113329

Good suggestions, thanks anon.

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>>55113329
>Glorious End
Better pair that shit with an Angel's Grace

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/erebos-sac-race/

Can /tg/ muster up any recommendations for monoB sac?

>>55113590
sadistic hypnotist

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>>55112492

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>>55113590
Gate to Phyrexia

>>55113634
$15 seems a bit much for an effect that's largely redundant if I have Karn out.

>>55113605
gud card, now I just have to find something to cut for it, thanks

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>>55113590

>>55113676
now that's some spicy tech

>>55111991
>monastary mentor restricted
YOU FUCKED UP

Does this means that my tsabo tavoc can now destroy planeswalker?

>>55113769
>destroy target legendary creature
anon, you may be retarded

>>55111643
You done fucked up.

>>55113769
Only a Sarkhan or Gideon Jura

>legendary creature
Gotta read the oracle text bro.

>>55113788
>gideon jura
>indestructible
If you can get around that....

>>55113810
>0: Until end of turn, Gideon Jura becomes a 6/6 Human Soldier creature that's still a planeswalker. Prevent all damage that would be dealt to him this turn.

OG Gideon is the only one that isn't indestructible

>>55113769
The uppercase "L" in Legend means the creature type "Legend". Compare it to the text for Captain Sisay and it'll make sense. There are some cards like Willow Satyr that are completely ambiguous but wotc errated them to include creatures exclusively. Willow Satyr would be spiking hard if it could steal a planeswalker. It'd be at least $100.

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So I finally received my Wizards and Vampires precon from the mail, and I just opened the Wizards first and I immediately noticed this on the Inalla card, after taking out the shrink wrap.

It's hard to capture it on my phone camera at night, but the circled top right corner is bent on where the light is. The Kess and Mairsil while not bent, has their top right corners still has slight perforations on it.

I'm afraid of opening my Vampires deck and see how fucked up it is. Does Wizards even do anything if you complain about these defects?

>>55113825
Oh I see you literally meant the one that turns into a 6/6, not the character himself.

>>55113834
Those cards look completely fine but if you call wotc customer support they will probably replace them or refund you.

>>55113857
they're fine at face value but once you hold them and inspect them, especially the Inalla card, the bend is noticable.

>>55113883
Call customer support, they look fucked

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>>55111573
>buy friend an AGOT 2nd Edition core set
>says thanks by giving me his modest collection
>packed in small tupperware containers, clearly hasn't been touched in forever
>Sword of F&I and Eladamri's Call just fucking sitting on top

>>55112905
My target has stocked them but I only saw one of each. Got a cat deck for a friend. I've been debating if I should go back for dragons or vampires.
My Wal mart has not stocked them but where at least kind enough to put out a few plastic cubes with a few old commander decks.

>>55111613
>>55111678
Is it the same book that came bundled with the PC game? I still have all that shit with the deck of cards, too

>>55111905
As far as stuff not on EDHRec, I like Generator Servant.
T2 servant -> T3 hasted Neheb -> 4 mana from hitting someone -> profit
I like seize the day -> aggravated assault (or seize the day -> seize the day -> whatever for 12 mana on turn 3)

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/deathlink-and-lifetouch-ayli-eternal-pilgrim/

New to Commander, how'd I do?

>>55114333
Ancient Ziggurat and Mirrodin's Core are both bad. Basics are better.

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Jesus fucking christ.

>>55114440
I told you dumb fucks like 3 days ago.

>>55114440
You can probably get it on ebay for $35-40 right now. When I last checked tcgplayer there were only two NM copies listed and they were both over $50.

The planeswalker change doesn't even really affect Sisay decks that much. There aren't any new lines of tutoring that come from it. It's all for superfriends decks.

>>55114471
Well, considering Atraxa is the most popular commander of all time...

>>55114466
I got one for $2 out of a rare bin from my local store right before the first spike. At the same time, I also got a Garruk, Apex Predator for $2. I think they had some cards marked incorrectly.

Lads help

New-Mirri Goon Squad (hatebears) or Seton Stax

Which should I shitbrew

I'm in an awful position where I am constantly thinking about cards but unable to play. I've been sorting bulk cards since our garage got flooded (got all of them out before, but now it is just cluttering my room). Looking at thousands of cards. Fucking so many revised Remove Souls and shit.

But I found like 10 cards I was literally looking for for my EDH decks, so I can't like stop and just throw them all away. I also found a Blowfly Infestation and like 7 Mystic Remoras.

I wish I could be free for a bit. I wish I didn't have to concern myself over losing tens of dollars because I threw away giant boxes of utter trash.

>>55114562
Donate them to a local youth group and teach them how to play. You clear up space and find new people to play with. Then you can get them into EDH so they never have money for drugs. Win-win!

>>55114556
Mirri. She looks fun as fuck, since you can swing with impunity and not worry about blowback. Also GW is a great color combo for fucking people over, mono-G not as much (but still strong)

>>55114597
As much as using 10 Revised Tsunami's and thirty slowtrip variant from Ice Age to teach 13 year olds what the stack is sounds fun, I literally don't see donation as being a viable option.

You certainly could make a deck out of these, but it'd be pure sadism to inflict that on people.

Why do I have so many copies of The Brute? Why was it printed so often, man?

What commanders get fucked over by Wheel of Sun and Moon?

>>55113785
w-why

>>55114845
Daretti
Any monoB graveyard commander

I just got a new play mat that's predominantly blue. I also should branch out and play some control. Anyone got good blue commanders? Doesn't have to be mono, just includes blue. I already have combo decks too so something else preferably.

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>>55111654
Yeah, but grixis vampires are superior.

new legends look like crap. I don't like the way they're limiting triggers with "one or more" these days. It's like they hate johnny.

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>>55114967
>new legends look like crap

How should I build my cats? Tribal? Equipment? Hybrid of both?

>tfw c17 printed just enough tribal goodstuff that your Baron Sengir vampire tribal finally graduates from a meme deck

>>55115091
With as few cats as possible, instead using good creatures.

>>55115110
Well shit why'd I even buy it

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>play edh with the boys
>new guy to group using ur dragon, only 5 cards swapped around
>he ends up winning

>>55115149
How the fuck? Is your new guy Kibler?

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>>55112352

anointed procession + parallel lives + buttpirate jace

ALL OF THE TOKENS

>>55115159
it was his first time using his own deck too

other commanders were scarab god, edric, kalemne, and oloro

>>55111703
Rolling Stones

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>>55115149
>playin brand new cats
>super crush the fuck out of everyone and they hate me out game 2
>mfw I just wanted to play a meme cat deck

>>55115232
Assault formation effects all walls + other creatures you co trol with defender, can function as a temporary anthem, and allows your critters to still assign with their butts if doran dies

fog bank should be banned

>>55112905
I work at Target. We got 2 cats and vamps and 1 dragons and wizards. All but one of the cats was bought by employees the day of them releasing. I'm waiting on another shipment so I can get the other 2 I didn't buy.

>>55114862
Eh, mostly because I think Oloro's boring. You probably won't even cast him ever.

>>55115293
Trample, landwalk, menace, fear, intimidate, 'can't block/can't be blocked this turn', tap down, remove abilities, Protection, shadow, horsemanship

>Personal Favorite
Hero of Oxid Ridge

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>even Thalakos Deceiver spiked from $1 to $8

This is getting silly

>>55114925
I'd play Garza Zol vampires.dec if her art wasn't so hideous. Jeleva would be terrible as a vampire tribal commander, though.

>>55115396
I love watching these fools waste their money driving up prices to the point that EDH players will not ever pay for them. They're too busy chasing the carrot to notice that their own investment is turning toxic by their hands.

>>55113629
>without flying

>>55111730
7 Mana 6/3 technically

>>55115396
For what reason ?

So, what else spiked so far?
>Dragonlord Dromoka
>Captain Sisay
>Teferi's Protection
>Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
>Scourge of the Throne
>Oversized Freyalise
>Ramos, Dragon Engine

>>55115442
No, technically it's a 3/3, effectively it's a 6/3.

>>55115435
Somebody in a previous thread mentioned Reki and I realized I hadn't gotten one. I paid $4 and he's jumped up to around $9 already.

>>55115462
Inalla.

>>55115442
And doubles all your other attacking creature's power Its not a good card but it is a big splashy one. Its rarity is fine

>>55115477
Yawgmoth's Bargain.

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>Untaidake has jumped from $0.50 to $15

I hope these people get hit by a bus. All of them at once, like they just all happen to be in the same place at the same time somehow and one bus plows through their entire crowd.

>>55115477
>Oversized Freyalise

You're going to have to explain this one to me.

>>55115477
Why did Ramos spike?

>>55115517
Because it isn't until cards get in the peoples' hands sometimes that half the playerbase realizes something the other half had already figured out.

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Why are Eiganjo Castle foils going for $30? Am i missing something or is this more speculation?

>>55115503
They'll likely walk out in front of one when they realize they've fucked themselves to the tune of hundreds, if not thousands trading what is essentially unregulated penny stocks, and that their portfolio is the MtG equivalent of irradiated farmland - vast and potentially usable, but far too toxic for anyone to put real money into.

>>55111703

Ikra Shiggidydiggidy
Sidar Kondo
Behind the Scenes
Assault Formation

Though those are all kinda givens...

>>55115555
But... it doesn't protect planeswalkers and the only ones that turn into good creatures already prevent damage...

Excuse me, I need to go vomit.

best commander for aristocrats?

mardu boyo seems like an easy answer

>Thread question
I was going to build Pirates before I realized the deck would be really shitty.

I caved and got the Wizards pre-con. How much money am I in for to properly upgrade it?

Also r8 my zombies deck: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-wonder-twins-1/

>>55115583
Yup, with Edgar's ability to make fuel for your Aristocrats he's your best bet.

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>Wrath to Exile
This seems like a good wipe in a control shell or token/ramp deck. Aven Mindcensor/Leonin Arbiter, anyone?

>>55115583
Marduchesa. Rummage freely thanks to extra cards in hand and use the 1/1s if someone ever takes the monarchy from you to get it back and then feed it to an outlet. Wheel and deal out of the yard from that point.

>>55115557
You don't understand. The current, unsustainable price spike isn't the real goal. If anyone does actually buy copies of Untaidake for $15 from them, it's a massive profit, but the market will eventually drive it back down. The thing is, it's not going to drive it back down to $0.50, and they're going to be selling them the entire way down. People buy some at $12? Still a huge profit. People buy some at $8? Still a fairly large profit. It eventually settles down at maybe $3? Still a noticeable profit.

It's going to take a while, but this is still raking in money hand over fist. That's why it's going to keep happening. None of the "investors" that actually matter are the ones paying the upjumped prices, so it's not actually going to end up hurting them in the long run.

>>55115606
Follow up with Armageddon.

>>55115555
>>55115567
It's because Captain Sisay can search it. More people playing Captain Sisay directly translates to more people buying "tech" that works well with her. Being able to search up lands if you need to makes Sisay even better.

>>55115477
I can't wait for the Beanie Baby market crash.

>>55115555
>>55115567
Apparently its a 1-of in D&T, fuck Modern

>>55113146
>Activate Legion's Initiative exile ability
>Activate Planar Guide's ability
>Enter combat
>Play Containment Priest

I love dumb combos.

>>55115606
I plan to target myself with this after swinging in with Hero of Bladehold/Hanweir tokens

>>55115669
I agree with the sentiment but your timing is all sorts of fucked up

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>>55115619
And Commander players will still refuse to pay that $8 pricetag. I understand that these threads don't see it a lot due to the nature of this website drawing more hardcore enthusiasts, but there is a massive portion of EDH that plays on a budget, and nobody, NOBODY on a budget is going to touch this shit with a ten foot pole. If they think that they can eventually make a small sum moving down the slide as people calm down, they are sorely mistaken, especially with this blatant financial manipulation pissing people off and convincing many to turn away from them out of spite. Their actual buyer range is almost nonexistent thanks to their own fuckups, leaving them to sit on hundreds of dollars of dead product.

>>55115481
>want to put in more draw for the Dragon precon and keep it for battlecruiser/playing with the kids at the LGS
>oh hey Reki might be nice, there's a bunch of legendary dragons
>it's reaching $11

>>55115695
>all sorts of fucked up
>just typed the activation wrong for the stack

k

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The thing that gets me most is that all these buyouts are for one style of deck but it tags so many other strategies.

And what the fuck is even going on with the old-ass card buyouts? Who even plays those cards?

So I pulled the trigger on a dumb Karametra land tribal deck I've been drafting and pulled the trigger lest Ixalan spike anything I want. Not counting the expensive ass stuff I've had for years I budgeted $50 so Knight of the Reliquary was a no go, but if the deck works well enough I might give it a go.

Any suggestions/ideas? So far it's been a lot of fun vomiting out lands then murdering people with them.

https://pastebin.com/v662yRUD

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>looking to build newzuri
>like having mats that match the deck
>finally have a reason to seek out a simic mat
>OG Fathom Mage was for some jap GP 5 years ago but also has an ugly face
>promo (pic related) is drawn by an artist who no longer has a store
It's probably for the best since I gathered a harem of playmats, mostly by accident but god damn if it isn't annoying.
>Flip Avacyn, Basandra, Liliana Last Hope, Athena from Force of Will.

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>>55115710
You're on 4chan, the least you could do is at least write your abilities and triggers in the right order.

>>55115722
Imaginary value. Bloat the market hard enough, early enough, and you can be expected to make a profit no matter how hard the bubble deflates. This shit is illegal in established industries for a reason.

>>55115762
Fuck, you're right.

>>55115699
>And Commander players will still refuse to pay that $8 pricetag.

That's not important either. A few people probably will and hey, that'll be "nice", but even when the dust settles, if it stops at say $3, then someone who "invested" $100 into copies of Untaidake stands to make $500 if they sell through them.

Like I said, it'll take a while to make the money, but it will still ultimately get made. The big stores that are capable of staging large scale buy outs are the ones that have the time to wait for the return on it, so they're going to keep doing it.

We'd all be much better off if it were a financial blunder that will ultimately ruin the people that made it, because that would put an end to it, but that's practically a revenge fantasy at this point. The sorry truth is that this is still a viable profit scheme, and that means it's not going to stop so easily.

>admiral Brass is based on the artists mother

>>55115804
More like admiral ass

thoughts on pic related? Anything spicy or is the best way to build her just ramp and big spells?

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>>55115759
I just design and order my own mats. Dropping some dumb shit you know no one else has is cool.

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>>55115808

all pirates are girls

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>>55115832
shit

>>55115834
a e s t h e t i c

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>>55115840
No, they just look like girls.

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>>55111703
Ensnaring bridge
Fell the mighty
Dauthi Embrace

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mizzix gun love this

>>55112352
I still don't understand why make him legendary, just so they can change the pw rule and allow him to create copies? Wouldn't this fuck up the rest of the walkers' balance?

>>55116000
It's because casuals got confused about legendary rule and planeswalker uniqueness rule

>>55116023
>It's because stupid new players got confused about legendary rule and planeswalker uniqueness rule
FTFY

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I completely forgot this existed. Why was this made? It's so bad.

>>55116000
Not really. What they realized is that a lot of Planeswalkers are distinct enough cards that the uniqueness rule wasn't serving any sort of larger mechanical purpose. Outside of EDH, most decks aren't running different flavors of the same Planeswalker anyway. The only exception is seeing LotV and Last Hope together rarely.

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Is it essential to have a planeswalker in your deck? I was thinking of getting pic related for my oloro deck

>>55116023
>>55116000
if you think about it having a rule for planeswalker uniqueness and legendary creatures is really goddamn redundant. the slight difference between the two mechanics is not worth the extra rules.

>>55116201
They are one of the best permenant types in the game and synergyse with everything.

>>55116201
I wouldn't say essential. It's like any other card. If it fits the strategy and you have room there's little reason to not run it.

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>>55116234
ok that settles it then.

question, If I have only 5 influence points can i spend 5 to reach 0? or will it kill it?

>>55116268
They're called lotalty counters. You can spend all 5 but once a plansealkers has 0 loyalty, it is sent to the graveyard.

>>55116268
You can spend planeswalker points down to 0 as long as it has enough to pay for it. For example to use Sorin, grim nemesis last ability you would need 9 or more points. If a planeswalker ever has 0 points it does die.

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>>55116000
INFINITE JACE PADDLESLAPPING ORGY

>>55116268
http://magic.wizards.com/en/game-info/planeswalker-cards

>>55115293

>no one should have a way to block one of my guys for free a turn!
I fucking hate shitters like you.

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>>55111573

Looks like he is doing some kind jutsu.

>>55116398
Aren't the Jace Tokens nonlegendary?

>>55116462
Correct.

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>>55116409
All the cool kids are doing it.

>>55116573
>Link looks like he is going to clone himself
>Zelda looks like she has a Rasengan ready in her right hand
We Naruto now

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So this is a staple in any deck that runs creatures, right?

>>55116605
No.
Getting one essentially vanilla creature, no matter how large or how cheap, isn't particularly impressive in EDH. It probably has some niche, but it's extraordinarily far from a staple.

>>55116626
Staple in Markov vampires?

>>55116664
Not a stale but a good card

>>55116664
Closer.

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How many of you run checklands on a regular basis? Do you consider them to be better than painlands, tangolands, or other budget options?

>>55116762
Slam them into every multi color deck I make, getting them to come in untapped takes no effort most of the time.

>>55116762
The funny thing about thinking of them as a budget option is that they get better the better your budget is. They scale in reliability with a higher density of shocks and duals, and fetches to get them.

>>55116762
I have all 10 in my big_dragon_cocks.dec

>>55116605
>>55116664
neither. even if you played this in a deck that cares about destroying creatures a lot, like a token sacrifice deck or one full of boardwipes, a huge vanilla creature is still underwhelming in edh. in edh you want to play creatures that generate value.

>>55116942
>in edh you want to play creatures that generate value.

Well, there's a tiny bit of leeway here. Normally, this is not a value creature in any regard. In Edgar, he's able to generate value because he's a Vampire, and he's the only Vampire with flash. He's significantly more playable in Edgar than anywhere else. Admittedly, I wouldn't consider him a staple, since there are only certain builds of Edgar that I think would profit from him, but there certainly are builds that would.

>>55115834
W2C friendo?

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Would you let Vraska stonegaze you?

>>55111776
What are you even talking about?

>>55117121
I'm not sure where they were going with the "instant speed" part, but Tree of Redemption with lifelink and Doran does seem like something that could be useful.

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>>55117118
Part of me is already hard as stone if you know what I mean

>>55117118
She doesn't have to turn me to stone to make me rock hard, if you know what I'm saying.

>bought Wizards, Cats, and Vampires
>barely even play EDH anymore

Wtf is wrong with me

>>55117179
>bought none of them
>play EDH on the regular

Feels good, man.

>play a completely homebrewed abzan counters deck
>powerlevel so low I fly under the radar for most of the game
>people don't realise I have big guys that untap in every untap step

>>55117118
Not with that butterface, no.

Did they already announce what creatures are getting erratat to dinosaurs?

>>55117322
Not yet. They usually don't announce stuff like that or publish full lists, they just make the changes on Gatherer alongside the CR update.

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Thoughts on this guy? Seems like a cute trick for politics

>>55117604
Used to run him in a wizard tribal deck, but he was pretty soon cut because he didn't do all that much.

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>sliver hivelord

>>55115866
bretty gud with stuffy doll

>>55117121
>Be attacked with Doran and Tree out
>Block
>Switch life total
>Give lifelink
>Higher life than before
Maybe Children of Korlis for good measure

What are some auto-includes for GW Mirri? Trying to avoid Voltron strategies

>>55117604
tap creatures are generally pretty weak in EDH if you don't build around them, and this creature's ability isn't even that great. the only place where i see that creature having a place is some kind of really casual pillowfort deck, but even there it's weak

>>55116605
i only really see it being good in Kresh where you are already having creature die, and you most likely have lots of fling effects too

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>tfw accidentally shuffle your graveyard a little
>forget you had corpse dance in the deck

>>55115503
I'm looking everywhere and I don't see any of those price changes. Who the fuck even wants to run Untaidake? I have one gathering dust, I don't even want to play it. I could never get rid of it. Please tell me this is real and people are buying Untaidakes like retards.

>>55115503
>still 0.15 cents on mcm

Why would anyone pay more than 2$ for a bad, situational ancient tomb?

>>55118217
tell someone at the table to shuffle your graveyard, that way it'll feel better for everyone

or just remember everything like i do and put the creatures back in the correct order

>>55118382
Because no matter what it can still be used for your commander.

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See that bump?

Quickly! Nobody tell Rudy!


i'm telling you guys to invest in cryptolith rite

>>55118403
Or just know what's in your fucking deck and avoid the problem in the first place

>>55118469
Is Rudy the one that marshals these assholes on buying out the tribal staples?

>>55115555
It's extremely gold in EDH and always has been. If you have a white general then it's probably better than a Plains. Also it protects Thalia in Death and Taxes decks.

>>55118469
>>55118622
Who's Rudy?

>>55118642
A shithead

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>>55118642
legendary investor creature

>>55116762
These look so much better than the old ones.

>>55118882
Dragonskull Summit, yes, but not the rest.

>>55117892
>>55117892
>>55117892
>>55117892
pls help

>>55118426
And it always has been usable on your general. It's a shit card and people will learn that.

Even in a deck based on planeswalkers, having a land that ONLY casts them and your general is shit. It's a trap like Ancient Ziggurat.

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>>55119014
It also casts Captain Sisay.

>>55119090
Yes it does. This card has been around for a long time and I've seen it used before. It's much worse than it looks.

>>55119452
Works plenty fine in my Kozilek deck.

>>55118684
HA! MEMES!

>>55119531
>land that can't cast mana rocks
Sure it does.

>>55116108
I played this as a mono white control deck for a long time
almost never used the activated abilities but when I did it was pretty funny
5 mana 5/4 flying vig is the reason I played her

>Been building Empress Galina copy/steal deck for a while
>Just taking it slow, getting a few cards at a time
>Never got around to getting Galina herself
>This price spike happens

Wizards, pls.

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>>55119605
>tfw i wish this card had vigilance

4 mana 5/4 flying with no downsides

>>55119612
>15€ on mcm

I mean her effect is sweet but she is not worth that much.

>>55119640

Exactly, which is probably why I'll go Memnarch instead while waiting for prices to drop. I have to rebuild a bit though.

>>55115477
This is getting completely out of hand recently. I hope the bubble will finally burst.

>>55118426
I'd take Temple of the False God over it, and that land isn't good.

>>55119738
I've been saying that for 5 years and have come around to feeling like it will never burst (until an actual market crash when collectors/players/investors alike have to consider selling cards to pay their bills)

>>55119612
>want to grab a card for my EDH deck
>I can't because it became the target of some dumb spec

It happens all the time recently, seems we are their target now.

>>55119014
>it's a trap like Ancient Ziggurat
>[laughs in Animar]

>comes down tapped (-1 mana)
>next turn you can tap it for 2 colorless mana and lose 2 life


or you could just play two lands, not lose life, and not fall behind

>>55119790
>have to consider selling cards to pay their bills
I doubt this will happen. A lot of these guys have a ton of disposable income

what are some lesser known group hug effects? edhrec is totally crap for group hug tech its like everyone just throws in a bunch of howling mines and calls it a day

>>55120192
Of course I'm not saying everyone will sell their collection but SOME will have to and the prices probably drop at that point.

>>55118953
New Dragonskull Summit is the shittiest of the bunch.

>>55120285
>SOME
Over time, yes.
There's no guarantee that the every so slight increase in supply will outpace the purchasing of the investing majority that will buy that shit up instantly.

This wouldn't be a problem if Wizards would just fucking reprint shit in a timely fashion.

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>>55120263
was only printed in 2015 RW deck

>>55120389
oh that reminds me to pick up a !noteternalwitness

>>55120387
It also wouldn't be a problem if you played with proxies.

>>55112379
Coastal Piracy has to be reprinted in Ixalan, right? Could we also get Larceny to boot?

>>55120522
confiscate when?!

>>55120498
True, but at some point along the way we could also just make our own cards to solve other problems we have with the game.
Hell, why not make our own rules?

>>55120522
>>55120542
more like CRACKDOWN

>>55114556
Gotta be Goon Squad. Don't forget Gaddock.

>>55118351
That's the catch, no one is buying for those inflated prices. Soon the price will go down to a couple dollars and will stabilize at that because investors aren't going to sell them for a loss, so all they do is go around increasing the price of cards that were cheap.

If they manage to sell a couple of Untaidake for $3, they already made a profit even if they bought a dozen of them.

Guys, ever played ''How many Reserved list cards do I own?''.

I'll take a quick guess and say I'm on the low side with 3.

>>55120592
I know nobody's buying for those prices, but I straight up don't see any changes anywhere for selling prices. I don't see the 15$ price jump.

>>55120522
Expedition Map when

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>>55111573
Gishath, obviously. Dinosaurs are the GOAT.

>but carnage tyrant is a $10 pre-order on star city jews

>>55120552
>hail hasbro
You're a very good goy

>>55115834
1986% RAD

>>55120656
Untaidake didn't spike that much, but check Galina, or Mirror Gallery.

>>55115832
>>55115843
It's basically Simic with a solid advantage engine. Just slot in a Mind's Dilation for teh lulz.

>>55120552
That's an awful thought leap,

>>55116762
Checks are pretty awesome. Decently powerful and relative cheap... unless you're talking about the Innistrad ones. Which better get reprinted in this block. Seriously.

>>55120640
Woah, 3 is really low. I've never counted or organized my collection but would guess I have at least 100. There are tons of cards on the reserved list that aren't good, expensive, or played.

>>55120656
You need to look on those sites that anyone can sell, not store sites or sites that look on store sites only, also, they are only spikes, some of them go from minutes to hours, they rarely maintain any ridiculous price for more than a day.

>>55118469
Untaidake has always been among the shittiest cards in the game, though. Nobody is seriously going to buy these out as a response to PWs... right? I mean, I suppose Atraxa Superfriends could take advantage of it, but it still seems very jank to me.

>>55120715
>wanted to pick up mirror gallery for 4€ on friday
>ixalan spoilers happen
>suddenly 11€

Man do I love this fucking game.

>>55117892
>>55118996
Aura Shards
Mirari's Wake
Privileged Position

>>55120842
Wake and Privileged Position seem expensive for something with a lot of taxes involved

>>55120825
Speculators aren't necessarily any good at magic.

>>55117892
Pathbreaker Ibex, Jazal Goldmane, Elspeth (all of them), Odric 2.0, Dub Season/Parallel Lives/Annointed Procession, Fresh Meat, Cathars' Crusade, Rhys the Redeemed, Dauntless Escort/Selfless Spirit, Mirror Entity, Twilight Drover, Hero of Bladehold, Premiere Captain, Mirari's Wake, Beastmaster Ascension, Leonin Sun Standard, Sakura Tribe elder, Mentor of the Meek, Captain of the Watch, Kjeldoran Outpost, Skullclamp

>wanderwine Prophets spiked from 0.40€ to almost 4€ in a day
This is going to dip back down by at least another euro over the week, right?

>>55120842
>>55120865
Isn't Mirari already in the cat precon?

>>55120591
But Gaddock is expensive and wouldn't fare well in a creature-heavy meta

>>55120935
It's $15 in the States. Send help/guns.

>>55120945
I meant mana-wise. Though I am in green

>>55120945
Anon could just be getting some 2017 singles and going from there

>>55120964
>bought a Mirror Gallery at $7 for Mairsil shenanigans
>now $34
Wewy lads

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I saw someone had tech for this commander a few threads back
what exactly can you do here?

>>55121001
Can't wait for C18 when everything quadruples in price.

>>55121116
what a terrible card

>>55121116
that was in reply to an aurelia deck actually. They were advised to remove Basandra due to her lack of synergy and Grand Abolisher being overall better

Add:
>Skullclamp
You’re in Boros, you need the most broken equipment in the game to patch your draws.
>Mindstone
Early ramp and late draw
>Legion’s Initiave
Your creatures are your win-con. This provides protection from enemy (and your own) boardwipes/removal while giving a baby anthem and can even be used to enable haste & reset Iona’s Color, Twilights -1/-1s, Flip Red Akroma, or perma-exile with Angel of Serenity
>Cloudshift
Another flavorful card that functions similarly to Legion’s Initiative EXCEPT with the addition of milking out an extra (third) combat step with your commander. (Cast it before Aurelia Attacks in the Second Combat step, she becomes a new object, and attacks for the ‘first’ time again [Eldrazi Displacer works similarly but must be done in response to her untap trigger, also requires anus mana])
>Wear//Tear
A must. It is arguably the most efficient instant in Boros
>Hanwier Battlements/Hanwier Garrison
The land offers an extra outlet for haste (including opponents’ creatures which may offer political power) and the soldier provides little dudes you can Clamp late game.
>Scroll Rack
Together with land tax, you will be able to sculpt hands better than Bluefags
>Godo, Bandit Warlord
Extra combat step, is a human (Herald of War), and can give you useful tools (sunforger/skullclamp)
>Sun Titan
Not angelic, but can reccur lost lands and utility permanents (sphere, clustone, mindstone, MOM)
>Reya Dawnbringer
You’re doing Angel tribal senpai, wtf where is she?
>Emeria Shepherd/ Emeria Sky Ruin
That many Plains demands these two cards
>Kjeldoran Outpost
Allows you to generate value even when hellbent, amazing synergy with skullclamp

>tfw Jace, Vryn's Prodigy didn't spike yet

>>55121196
>>55121116
the deck in question:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/20-11-16-Uvo-aurelias-legion/

i find it hilarious that people are freaking out about the price spikes when tribal is a shitty strategy even with all those cards

>>55121219
I mean edgar is pretty strong tho.

>>55116762
Fetch > shock >>> check = pain > tango >>> reveal > fast >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scry > all other always tapped lands

Filter lands are on par with checks and pains in 2c but in 3c+ they're very awkward

>mfw I live in a third world country, so not only there are not many investors here, but investors from outside are not willing to pay shipping prices

>>55121174
>Terrible Cards, Great Art: The Boros Story

>>55121304
In 1v1. Regular aggro doesn't work most of the time in EDH.

new bread when?
I'd bake but I don't know how to link previous threads and I don't want to be bullied.

>>55111703
idk if this is spicy but dusk // dawn is good in doran

>>55121705
You go >>[OP Post number]
So next thread will point to >>55111573

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How terrible is this deck idea?

>play pic related
>99% of nonland cards help your opponents
>if someone try to mess with you play counterspells/removal
>wincon is blightsteel colossus + blade of selves out of nowhere (cheat haste/extra turn/flash because blue&white)

>>55121980
>>55121980
>>55121980

>>55111730
Thankfully you are playing Naya anyway, so you can always insert shit like Fires of Yavimaya, Ogre Battledriver or even Lightning Greaves. That dino can become a Craterhoof Behemoth if you can give it haste.

>>55118882

I really like Drowned Catacomb.

>>55121916
The best deck idea.

>>55118684

The one thing that makes me curious is why he has the "removes their pants" ability. Is it a reference to something?

>>55115840
>tfw Wizards will never let me have my Blackbeard deck

>>55116664
Maybe not, even in 1v1.

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>>55115834
>currently shitbrewing a Mairsil spellslinger list featuring Jhoira for maximum memes
>Fully embrace Mister Jank memes
>Unironically want to use all the weak-ass photoshop skills I learned in high school to make a Vaporwave-ass playmat

>Unironically love meme playmats

I'm the kind of person who would totally make a playmat for each of the decks I'm unlikely to ever take apart, and then a handful more for brews and the like. Decks I'd actually shell out a playmat and maybe even sleeves for:

- Rashmi Artifacts brew (currently online only, slowly building irl)
- Sydri Artifacts brew (combos out with the water tower, as expected)
- Grenzo, Dungeon Warden brew (has a couple combos but few are realistically infinite)
- Queen Marchesa brew (mardu are my spirit colors and I love me some politics, token subtheme)
- Dwynen "Welcome to the Jungle" double-tribal brew (beasts and elves)

Might post inspirations on what each one might look like, at some point.