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Titties edition

OLD THREAD: >>55089175

RESOURCES

>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.mtgcommander.net

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net

>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
http://manabasecrafter.com/

>/tg/ EDH General Discord
https://discord.gg/UE9Vqzu

CARD SEARCH

>Official search site. Current for all sets.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/

>Unofficial, but have GOAT search interface.
http://magiccards.info/
http://scryfall.net/

Thread Question:
What are your pet cards which you stick in every deck in appropriate colors?
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>>55094308
Thread Question: Helm of Awakening. It's an all-star, particularly in my Emrakul deck.
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Instant speed grave hate + regularly gaining more than 12 life. What's not to love?
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>>55094383
>What's not to love?
2B
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>>55094383
3 mana, only hits creatures, lifegain is shit, doesn't cantrip
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How is this for a Sunforger package for Alesha?
>Boros Charm
>Eerie Interlude
>Enlightened Tutor
>Lapse of Certainty
>Path to Exile
>Return to Dust
>Swords to Ploughshares
>Utter End
>Anguished Unmaking
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>>55094362
Of the 3, Queen Marchesa is definitely the best, but you seem like you want other players to draw and the best Queen Marchesa does not let other people draw. But you can build a version of her that is more about forcing action instead if just using her as a command zone phyrexian arena if you dont mind a suboptimal version.
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It's time for your examination
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>>55094308
>What are your pet cards which you stick in every deck in appropriate colors?

So much utility.
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>>55094417
i just want to have fun, playing cards i find interesting.
timmy for lyfe
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>>55094431
that card is really good. My favorite is pairing it with kederekt leviathian for 3 mana instant speed devastation tide with buyback
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I need token-producers, token producers for Mazirek!
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>>55094415
Not sure it's worth it but I've been meaning to try Comeuppance in Sunforger packages.

I also like Unexpectedly Absent in sunforger packages since it can answer anything (temporarily)
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>>55094453
Both Monarch and Mathas's bounty xounters seem like theyd have s fun game behind them. Never played eith it but Monarch in particular strikes me as being really fun. And i can imagine the fun tasble talk with Mathas's bounty counters.
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>>55094461
Sengir autocrat
Kozoroda Guildmage
Golgari Germination
Endrek Sahr
https://scryfall.com/search?q=%28o%3Acreate+o%3Atoken%29+id%3Abg&status=302
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>titties edition

Well, speaking of titties, enjoy this blog post.

>met a cute Latin lady at work
>total cougar status, THICK with a sexy accent, into Lord of the Rings and has clearly taken exceptional care of herself because she looks younger than I do
>After hanging out a few times she finds out I'm into magic because, apparently, nerdy white boys are her type
>Asks what it is, and clearly I'm embarrassed to talk about it, but hassles the shit out of me until I explain
>buy her one of the new precons the day they come out, cats, and I'm playing Wizards
>she has a blast, just fucking loves it
>Wants to know all the cards and gave me take her to the flgs to show her off to my friends
>yesterday we played magic at a picnic table in a natural history museum
>Today she went with me to pick out new cards for her deck
My life is awesome boys. Stick with commander, apparently bitches like it.
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>>55094540
Post pics
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>>55094504
maybe a queen marchesa deck should be brewed then.
pillowfort politics might work
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>>55094540
unsubscribe
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Queen Marchesa or Sydri?

they both seem like fun build around commanders, would probably play Aetherflux eggs Sydri and I'm not sure what I'd do with Marchesa
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>>55094308
>Question
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>>55094892
Fuck you
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What's the best precon deck to get into commander>
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>>55095009
whichever one seems the most interesting to you, outside of wade into battle or gay kings they are all good
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>>55095009
An eminence commander or oloro. They mechabically are the closest to 60 card magic
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>>55095023
Even both of those decks have some pretty good staples and at least gay kings getd you kraum (and I think ludevic is fine but whatever)
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>>55094874
Marduchesa isn't really build around. If you want a build around commander then you want sydri
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>>55095049
ya, i just hate them
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>>55094905
>implying I should play vintage with it instead
Good one, anon.
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>>55095050
what do people do with marduchesa then?
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>>55095127
goodstuff/value/combo
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>>55095127
i'm a shitter but here's what i got going so far

https://deckstats.net/deck-13902149-0991c64548478f9df4b8d200f01ab125.html
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>>55094552
I'll try to get one later tonight, but she's Guatamalan, about 5'2", has long naturally curly hair, cute round facial features, nice full lips, around 140lbs. Really nice skin, you'd have no idea how old she is unless she told you, and the accent is pure fucking sex.. She'd probably give Nin a run for her money upstairs, and recently lost leonin'd me with battle mastery t5 into my durdlefest board. I was pretty impressed.
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>>55095009
Don't. Brew one yourself.
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>wanderwine leaps up to $20

So where do you guys see this stopping at, given that it's the Hot Deck Of The Moment? I know Lorwyn was incredibly underprinted, but I don't know how much EDH can push up a single card.
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>>55095023
>>55095034

Thanks.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owQtmwiwLpQ

I watched Tolarian's video on the best precons.

His list;

Honorable Mentions
>Entropic Uprising
>Power Hungry

Ranked (Worst to Best)
>Breed Leathality
>Eternal Bargain
>Mind Seize
>Plunder the Graves
>Invent Superiority

I kinda wanna hold onto this deck for a while. I'm leaning towards Invent Superiority, because it's available for a decent price at a store near me.

Is it the wrong move to get it?

Thanks again.
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>>55095230
Nice score if this isnt all just a ruse
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>>55095352
Getting a good 4c manabase gets very expensive very fast. Otherwise go for it.
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>>55095127
my friend has made a dany targaryen theme and given her a bunch of dragon cards
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>>55095371
Thanks anon, I appreciate that. I'm honestly really happy for the first time in a while. I can't wait to show her my Brago flickerstax and artifact tutors deck. One day she'll be good enough to beat it, if I'm lucky.
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How can I further tune my erebos decc?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/erebos-sac-race/
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>>55094540
Damn nigga that's tight. You're living my dream

How old is she?
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>>55095127
Goodstuff or defensive/pillowfort strategies to make the most of Monarch
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>thread question

Manifold Insights is my favorite card from C16. Three guaranteed non-lands is great for 3 mana. You might be thinking "well they'll just give you the worst cards". But you get around this by only putting good cards in your deck.
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>>55095633
She's 40, I'm 25.
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>>55094415
I'd add Teferi's Protection in there.
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http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/no-favorites-everyone-dies/

Any thoughts on my take on stax?

>>55095669
Fair enough, but you will generally not get what you need at the moment, unless you can strike a deal with someone
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>>55095701
Yep, living the dream

Good on ya, don't fuck it up
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I really hope that Nu Radha is both a thing and EDH playable.
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>>55095795
3 cards for 3 mana is actuslly a good rate. My problem with the card is that its actually worse than drawing the top 3. If a win con is in the top 3, you will never draw it with manifold insights. But the hard ca may still be worth it.
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>>55095127
Aristocrats. If anyone hits you, you get to take monarch back and then fuel sac outlets further. Built correctly, you won't need any substantial draw outside of the monarchy due to how often you spend your whole turn wheeling in and out of your yard.
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Looking for some more shit for my Inalla list to pick up once I get my paycheck for this month: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/hi-inalla-mays-here-with-lots-a-dudes/

As mentioned in the description, generally looking for some (not SUPER expensive) upgrades that would interact well with the deck theme and Inalla's Eminence.
Also, suggest me something to cut for Cyclonic Rift.
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>>55095923
vivid lands are just plain bad, you should be fine with 35 land. Gives you room for rift+1
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>>55095962
A lot of people mistakenly think that Vivid lands are good because they were once used in a good Standard deck. But that manabase functioned purely based on how Reflecting Pool worked with those lands and because the deck was just a conglomeration of color-heavy spells like Cruel Ultimatum and Cryptic Command.

Vivid lands are trash.
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>>55094308
That Stuffy Doll is an awesome touch.
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>>55095923
>zero grave hate

I want to play in a meta where you can get away with that.
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>>55096054
Try mine. I get away with a lot of disgusting shit with Alesha and my friend does likewise with Meren. Until I nuke his yard with Tormod's or Bojuka Bog
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>>55094383
>creature

It was so close to being a good niche card.
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Thread Question: If the deck has B, Liliana Vess is one I tend to try and fit in.
If it has W, Eldrazi Displacer is just a neat package of value.
If it has G, Ramunap Excavator has just became a favorite.
If it has R, Pyroblast and REB are what I absolute love to use.
As for colorless cards: Ashnod altar is an absolute all star in any deck I play, no matter the theme.
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>>55096054
My meta is Xenagod "cheat shit in from hand", Nekusar "just draw cards LOL", God Tribal and Teysa Combo-Tribal. The only decks using the grave at all are my own Kaalia deck, the Nekusar guy's Sidisi deck and the God guy's Kaalia deck and we rarely play those casually anymore and unannounced. I honestly often just forget about it since it's never really any use.

>>55096035
Yeah, I am well aware Vivids are bad in almost all circumstances (I'd argue they're OK in Atraxa Proliferate decks). Only reason they're in there is because they were in the precon and I didn't bother upgrading the lands yet.
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Anyone got fun Mono White? A buddy of mine already has Odric, Lunarch Marshal, and I don't have much interest in equipment.

Any ideas? Something fun?
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>>55096176
Hokori stax
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>>55095841
Oh right. That is a huge downside.

>>55094308
I always add Sheoldred to any black deck

One card that I wanted to make work was pic related, but the most impactful plays have been to cast for 0 and sac half of my guys in Mazirek
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>>55096176
>fun
>monoW

Oh have I got some bad news for you
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>>55094308
>Thread Question

I honestly don't have any. I tend to like tribal, so maybe some of the new cards from C17 will work their way in. Even my Brago deck has a side of spirit tribal.
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>>55095838
Radha, catfucker 1rg
elf warrior
Whenever a creature you control becomes tapped you generate (r/g)[hybrid mana may be spent as though it was it was a mana of either color and only pays for one mana]
1wg: untap all other creatures you control. If radha, catfucker becomes tapped before this ability resolves counter it instead. You cannot activate this ability more than once per turn
["What powerful muscles you have Ajani." Radha, queen of keld]
2/4
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>>55096204
That card looks awesome for my suicide deck
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>>55096176
Lin-Sivvi for a fun tribal deck.
Masako the Humorless for some janky shit that surely must have some retarded random interactions.
Soraya the Falconer to make people hate you because of banding.
Celestial Kirin board wipe tribal.
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>>55096285
Could also do that with it. Just pay the life


Why a suicide deck?
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>>55096176
Kataki, tax collector.
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>>55096369
Because I thrive on blowing out entire tables while having a single-digit life total

Also life is a resource that I abuse with impunity
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>>55096326
These are all great suggestions they're all so fucking cool. Thank you anon.

Anything Lin-Sivvi excels at? I know a ton of the rebels can just tutor for each other.
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>>55096411
Aside for Death's Shadow, are there any other cards that benefit from a low life?
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>>55096433
https://edhrec.com/commanders/selenia-dark-angel

Selenia is a really good commander for low life shenanagins. Most bullshit stuff can be found on this page.
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>>55096453
Huh. Sounds fun
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I didn't know such a counter to Blood Moon existed. I know a guy who really loves Blood Moon, I guess it's time to put in jank in my deck to make him taste his own medicine.
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>>55095923
Flesh Carver has been great so far in mine, lot of synergy with her Eminence
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>>55096516
The WW upkeep cost hurts but Conversion is fucking amazing.
Honorable mentions are Tsunami, Boil, and all the functional reprints
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>>55096413
Not him, but Lin-Sivvi/Rebels have an easy infinite life combo with Task Force, Outrider En-Kor/Lightning Greaves, and Miren the Moaning Well. It would let you win off of Test of Endurance or Aetherflux Reservoir.
This list looks like it shows some of the combos/things Rebels have:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/white-rebel-motorcycle-club/
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>>55095838
Radha's already EDH playable.
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>grab inalla at convention
>hit up cardshop afterwards, snag a Riptide Lab for $7

actually pretty excited to build this deck now.
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>>55095923

I would consider cutting Trophy Mage, since you can only tutor 5 things, most of which are mana rocks.
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Is Xenagod worth running in a Ur Dragon deck? Its very tempting to land Ur Dragon and make it a 20/20 (Or worse)
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>>55096516
Do you feel in charge?
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Greeting edh friends! The other day I went to wal mart and found a few old commander decks in plastic cubes. Being the impulsive shit that I am I bought all 3. Inside ended up being Freyalise / eziuri, claw of progress / and kalemne.

Any ideas on what I should do with them? (already opened them, just looking for ideas/upgrades/what to pull out)
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>>55096899
Turn Freyalise into Elfdrazi, or just full on Elf Tribal with Ezuri at the helm.
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>>55096662
We're going back to Dominaria. Radha's from Dominaria.
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>>55094461
Creakwood Liege
Marionette Master
Mitotic Slime
Ogre Slumlord
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>>55096516
Let's just fuck everything up. Make sure to play solemnity too.
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>>55094415
Maybe a crackling doom for those pesky voltron?
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>>55096433
I just really like paying life and sacrificing my own shit for cool effects
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Any cool tech for her?
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Is Mirari's Wake too expensive for a GW Hatebears deck? Mirri's gonna be at the helm, and while it'd help for buffing my 2/2s and other little guys and as a mana doubler, it just feels like it'd be too slow.
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What do we think about pic related in Inalla?
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>>55096747

I thought about this card but I think there's better.
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I need low-cost, instant speed buff spells in Jeskai, stuff like Mighty Leap that gives keywords is preferred but flat buffs works too
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Who is the most pillowy comfy passive commander where I don't have to mass a meme army to win
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>>55097470
Rush of Adrenaline
Brute Strength
Sure Strike
Artful Maneuver
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>>55097492
Marduchesa or the Bois. Insurrection usually wins you the game if it goes uncountered.
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>>55097351
It's very good but I like Intruder Alarm better. With mana rocks, Cloudstone Curio or Equilibrium, and low mana creatures you can easily get cheap or infinite etbs and with enough rocks, mana.
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>>55097470
Fatal Frenzy
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>>55097351
Engine is pretty much good everywhere, but I don't think it's really anything special for Inalla.
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>>55096899
How could you tell they were commander decks?
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If I flash in a Hushwing with an ETB ability on the stack, does that ability fizzle?
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Nope!
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fugg why does Sisay cost so much
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>>55097790
No, it's already triggered, you can't retroactively prevent it.
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>>55097850
Legendary Planeswalkers soon, Stalker.
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>>55097223
Play a bunch of cheap reanimation like Animate Dead and Necromancy. After the first time you cast her, you can just put her in the graveyard and suddenly Animate Dead and Dance of the Dead are Demonic Tutors #2 and #3.
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>>55097965
Yeesh
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>>55097850
Because it looks like Ixalan will have a rules update that makes all planeswalker cards now "LEGENDARY planeswalker" cards. Sisay spiked the hardest but you should also buy Reki, the History of Kamigawa right now too.

People speculated hard on Sisay and she has relaxed slightly now. It looks like she will become an automatic inclusion in super friends decks, which are really popular with casuls. Sisay, Honor-Worn Shaku (tapping planeswalkers for mana will be very cute), and Reki are the most obvious cards affected by this but if you find more then please share.
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>>55098044
Also, every single mother fucking foil Sisay is bought or being hoarded by a store. REEEEEEE
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>>55098044
You forgot Mirror Gallery. Also I want Yomiji, Who Bars the Way, to have a niche.
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>>55098103
Now that's a good idea. Yomiji is a whole new card if he applies to planeswalkers.

Keep in mind, the leak could be fake. The Ixalan rare sheet is either fake or the game is heading for a whole new level of cancerous rules changes with the legendary planeswalker bullshit as well as new "Oblivion Ring" effect rules changes because there is a creature there that costs only 3 mana or something and can create infinite etbs or draw games by exiling/returning itself.
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>>55098148
He's improved, but he's still 7 mana.
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is there any neat stuff you can do by infinitely tapping lands?
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>>55098194
Darksteel Garrison makes a creature huge.
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>>55096899
The new boxes are pretty large and have two booster in them, but can be seen through the top/bottom so you can see inside them pretty easy. the tokens are apperently in front to probably hide what they are, but you can still see the set symbol which helps for figuring out with year it has. I easily recognized one as the c14 (with green tokens so obviously freyalise) and c15 (one had the red elemental token in front which ended up being the boros one, and anouther had the experience token in front so which one it was was a mystery)

Aside from being able to tell the decks from the tokens/set symbols, the commander decks are a good bit bigger then the intro decks the other cubes have so picking them out initially was pretty easy.

Also each of them had a khans an bfz booster in them, not sure if that was true for the non commander ones, but one pack of khans had a polluted delta so I am not complaining.
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>>55097749
>>55098244
Replied to myself by accident
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>>55098044
The only reason the new Jace is legendary is because his ultimate creates two nonlegendary copies of him. It's supposed to represent him creating a perfect body double of himself and the rules have to get a little wonky for him. I don't expect a rule change, especially in the wake of a shift away from Gatewatch walkers due to fear of a Superfriends archetype being too strong in Standard not going anywhere.

>>55098273
Thanks, mate! I need to swing by the rack tomorrow at work and see if there's anything good.
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>>55096747
I'd argue Trophy Mage has a right of existence solely because Ashnod's Altar is a legitimate win condition of the deck while also having at least a few other targets.
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>>55098323
Vraska and the new girl also have "Legendary" on them and I don't see Golgari and Boros to create copies of themselves.
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>>55097790
No, but you can flash in the gryff before the creature that causes the etb effect clears the stack.
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>>55098071
>mfw I had a Sisay deck back in the day and my best friend bought me a foil invasion one for my birthday
It's time to rebuild boys
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>>55098194
Kill someone that controls Sorrow's Path
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>>55098148
>leak could be fake
There are people who actually believe this? The promo dino they revealed was on the sheet. As was the mini sun titan vamp I think
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>>55097223
panharmonicon
Conjurer's closet
faceless butcher
mimic vat

return from graveyard zombies and skellingtons
reanimate
tokens

flicker if you want to add blue or white
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>>55095352
The professor sucks ass

Invent superiority is fun. It can get crazy with line slinger.
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>>55095540
Honestly man. That's noice. She is 40 though. You'd have to adopt.
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Should I make a Zedruu?
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>>55098759
Should I kill myself?

put some effort in.
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>>55098816
So... the answer is yes? Right?
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>>55098556
some of it being fake doesnt mean all of it is fake. Could be real art and some cards could have their text shopped.

i think that whoever did the leak did so for profit. whether that means the leaks are real and they just wanted people to buy shit amd get overly hyped for cards like sisay, or if some things are just a compete fabrication to sell bulk is up in the air.

Also if they are going to mention a rules change it will happen soon. there are going to be two whole sets spoiled in the next 3-4 weeks
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>>55098556
I just don't want to believe that wotc is doing these dumbass rules changes. This is the worst thing they've changed since damage using the stack.
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>>55098881
>speculators make high quality but not perfect imitations of cards that they somehow have knowledge of and access to the art of
>it's all so that they can buy Sisay at 5$ and then sell her at around 15$
I hope things aren't that bad yet.
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>>55098881
>>55098888
There's healthy skepticism and then there's denial.
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>>55098932
>high quality
Nigger do you have access to some crystal clear shots or something? Because unless you have access to different photos then i do someone could have easily whipped up like 4 stickers to put on the text boxes of different cards. It wouldn't have to be good and it would take less than 10 minutes to do, and it would explain why the photos we have are so completely shit.

If you don't believe we are being manipulated in some way, can you tell me why the photos we have are so fucking awful? Clearly someone wanted to share this sheet and had the ability to both take and upload multiple photos. If we had a half dozen more photos taken in a non-shitty way by the same camera then we would know beyond a shadow of a doubt what every rare and mythic in the set was. We don't, so why? If you want to share this stuff, why not bother to upload completely legible pics? The whole thing seems really fishy anon, and you don't have to be a paranoid wackjob to notice it.
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>>55098888
>This is the worst thing they've changed since damage using the stack.

It's nice you'd use that example, since it was ultimately a big improvement to the game.
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>>55097223
Why's this Sidisi like $5 when the mythic is $.70?
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>>55099051
Yeah, the only people who thought it was stupid are the ones that abused the shit out of sacrifice abilities.
Mogg Fanatic was a monster 1 drop
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>>55099049
By high quality I mean they're all very believable as cards. The only things that aren't formatted perfectly are the Oblivion Ring Creature and what appear to be legendary planeswalkers.
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/edhg/, I'm building Kaalia, but she's expensive so I only have around half the shit needed and it'll take me probably a while longer to amass the rest of it. So in the meantime, I need a relatively budget commander to build. I bought the anthology and Ezuri's precon as a reference to what I have. What I've been considering are
>Feldon of the Third Path
>Upgrading the C14 Freyalise deck since it's elfball and most of the shit's already there
>Rakdos, Lord of Riots
>Upgrading Meren C15
>Upgrading Ezulri C15
>Mardu/4C Warriors, but the manabase concerns me
And I absolutely hate G/W and R/U. I haven't considered a whole lot of +3c because of manabase.
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>>55099063
Because this one sees play.
Demand takes precedence over availability.
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>>55099049
You have to be a paranoid wackjob to think the reason is "scraping a few dollars off of manipulating the price of Captain Sisay."

Being as some of the cards have been proven real, the logical step to jump to is "This was a viral marketing strategy by WotC," if you want to have a conspiracy theory. Otherwise there could be any number of reasons, like the photographer having only a limited amount of time alone with the sheet to take the pictures.
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>>55099083
>Because this one sees play.

Is she used in Modern/Legacy/Vintage?
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>>55099106
Sidisi 1.0 is pretty much only played as a commander. Sidisi 2.0 is used as a commander and used in a lot of decks.
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>>55099049
These were revealed by the same person who spoiled the Dragon precon, I believe. So this has gone from "random guy" to "twice verified source" with the confirmation from the Ixalan promos.
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>>55099082
Meren is probably the strongest straight out of the box, although she folds to concentrated commander hate, like Kaalia
Kaalia is hot garbage out of the box and is only good for degeneracy, might as well table her for the foreseeable future since you'll at least need an Iona and Avacyn.
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>>55099089
>wizards having anything to do with the secondary market
You realize how much money they'd make if they printed more Moxes?
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>>55099153
Viral marketing is not the secondary market.
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Man I can never seem to win. I always kill one guy but die shortly after.
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>making Planeswalkers Legendary and a card thats clearly not formatted right/misprinted is going to ruin the game
Also even if that dumb Pirate isnt changed before release date (and they definitely arent changing the way Oblivion Ring effects work) it only works if you have no other creature if not you call a Judge for slow play and they HAVE to stop the loop.
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>>55099220
You play aggro or a super explosive beatdown deck, don't you?
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>>55099051
How? I don't see it at all. The game was deeper and gave both players more options when damage used the stack. Bounce spells like Boomerang worked completely differently, for example.
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>>55099286
>The game was deeper

Not really. It actually makes a lot of your choices very obvious.
>Do I need to sacrifice my Goblin Arsonist or swing with it? Both, of course!
>Should I Unsummon my creature to save it or let the damage go through? Aha, both again!
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>>55099265
Well yeah if it was combo id kill everyone at once or lose. I usually just kill one guy.
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>>55099141
false, you are talking out of your ass.
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>>55099318
>Goblin Arsonist
Mogg Fanatic, my bad.
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Damage on the stack was dumb and honestly Magic from the time of the Modern border change till RtR is sooooo much better then early Magic. 7th edition was a great turning point.
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>>55099318
Yes, Mogg Fanatic, Sakura Tribe Elder, and many others were more powerful. It didn't change game balance at all, both players had the same rules and creatures with those types of abilities were played more often.

wotc could change the rules on tapping or something and have the same type of result; different cards become good or bad.
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>>55099318
I'd argue that the choices are just as obvious as ever but cards like Mogg Fanatic stopped being good. Takign damage off the stack was just a way to protect creatures and focus the game on them even more by making them die less often.
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I need some advice for Scarab God. I'm trying to build degenerate combo.
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>>55099089
Bruh, lets say for a moment the legendary planeswalker thing is bullshit. It would take a guy just a few minutes to print up some stickers and slap em in the right spots. Then they could buy up a bunch of sisays for less than 5 dollaridoos and sell them for 25 a pop (what they were going for at the height of this shit).

You could make a decent chunk of change for less than an hours work. Alternatively, what reason did the leaker have to NOT try and profit off of his situation?

Im not saying this is what happened, maybe the leaker was just retarded and made hostage taker and hoped the price of impact tremors would go up and that this would be a modern deck. The leaker doesn't have to be a genius, he could have totally fucked this up.

I do believe its more likely something fishy happened at this point though
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>>55094415
Isochron scepter too perhaps?
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>>55099383
having a mirror mad phantasm in your graveyard and a labman in your deck wins you the game.

palinchron/urborg/coffers is a thing

walking balista is a good infinite mana outlet and is fetchable with trinket mage.

in addition to the usual tutors, entomb, intuition and buried alive will all let you combo out.

you can bring a shitton of counterspells, and you have no reason to really tap lands on your turn except to pay for the god.
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>>55094540
Proud of you anon! I got gf into magic by taking her to HOU prerelease. Then I proceeded to say standard is shit and introduced her to Commander. She just bought the Dragon deck and is researching how to fix manabases while sending me constant texts of cool cards she could combo off with in the 99. It's cute to watch so I'll give it a few weeks before I annihilate her with my spikey Teysa combo
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>>55099383
Add in Alter of the brood and Undead Alchemist for a janky 2 card combo

Add in tree of perdition too while you're at it
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>>55099404
God damn you're a paranoid wackjob.
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>>55099518
Only a leaker falsifying cards would call me out on such a thing.
FOUND 'EM BOYS
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Is it the hottest card ever printed?
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>>55099485
>I got gf into magic by taking her to HOU prerelease.
Interesting, I'll try taking mine to Ixalan prerelease
How did you convince her?
When did you teach her the rules? Before? During the deckbuilding phase?
How did it go during the matches?
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>>55099082
Upgrde Newzuri, it's a fucking blast

Drawing half your deck with that UG elf with evolve
Infinite turns with sage of hours
Threatening board with champion of lambholdt
Utter insanity with homarid spawning bed
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>>55099544
No, Red hot hottie is
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>>55099544
Card? Probably
Art? Not quite
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>>55099063
>>55099083
The '3rd set'-factor also plays a role
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>>55099373
>I'd argue that the choices are just as obvious

The point is that it is a choice now. Before you never had to choose because you had your cake and ate it too.
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>>55099063
Khans was opened SUPER heavily due to fetches and being a popular and fun three color block. This drove supply of all other cards in the set way past the demand for them, and caused prices to go to shit for most everything but planeswalkers and format staples like fetches, Swiftspear, Impersonator, and so on.

Also KTK Sidisi isn't really played outside of commander, and just isn't that great in general.
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>>55099761
First time I hear a good thing about fetchlands
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>>55099792
Only poorfags hate them
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>>55095809
>having sex with old hags
>living the dream
Disgusting
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>>55099848
God forbid someone likes a thing you don't like.
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>>55099842
Okay, you're right
I've found three more good things
>More landfall trigger in your turn
>Titania tech
>Gitgud frog tech
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>>55099848
>older woman who knows what she wants and how to get it
>teen/2X girls who have no clue what they are doing or who they are

I know what i'd be choosing
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>>55099917
There's also the Brainstorm interaction.
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>>55099967
>Brainstorm
>Landfall
>Titania
>Gitrog
>Other land drops shenanigans
>Other shuffling shenanigans
So fetchlands are only a good thing in EDH?
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>>55100006
Legacy too.
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>>55100006
Expand the Titania section because Sun Titan and Restore are also good cards for reanimating fetches.
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>>55100006
There's also a marginal benefit from stocking up on them if you play Delirium cards like Ishkanah.
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>>55099917
You're forgetting the most basic thing of dual land color fixing with shit like shocklands and battlelands. A R/W fetchland can get any R/X source or any W/X source.
It's what made late KTK-BFZ block such a 4c nightmare.
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>>55100047
And Splendid Reclamation.
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>>55099917
>Titania
>good thing
Don't get me wrong, she's strong and fun.
But she's probably the most degenerate "honest" commander there is.
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>>55099572
She went 1-2 but really enjoyed it for the atmosphere and people she played against. I went 3-0, which isn't relevant to your question but I just wanted to share.

I taught her the rules a week before by using a 2 Amonkhet draft decks (with all the rares taken out) and playing her with it patiently. Magic is easy to teach but then sometimes a few concepts are hard to grasp like the stack.

After teaching her how to play sorta, I explained card rarities and began adding rares to the deck. This also allowed me to explain mana curves / mana bases by sorting the cards by their cmc.

Now with a general grasp of the game and some stronger cards we played it out. I admit I let her win a couple games to get her excited for more but eventually she would steal a game and then two from me.

Afterwards, I would occasionally text her card previews during spoiler season because I was excited.

By then she was so hyped for HOU that the rest was history.

This is like a step by step guide on how to get your normie pals into magic.

Another quicker way is to get really high and play which works too!
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>>55100066
I didn't forget but that's literally my problem with them
Because they are easy mana fixing, they are a must-have playset for most Modern decks (and standard when they are legal there) and artificially drive the entry price up

But we're in /edhg/, so this discussion isn't on topic, let's keep talking about EDH shenanigans
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>>55100122
I forgot to add
Three colors deck shouldn't be as easy to play as mono and two colors deck but fetches allow that
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>>55099572
>>55100099
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/latest-developments/making-introductions-2011-12-23

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/teach-their-own-2012-06-18

There have been a few articles about showing new players the ropes, and it tends to work well enough.
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>>55100145
>There have been a few articles about showing new players the ropes, and it tends to work well enough.
The first problem with your significant other is getting them interested in the first place
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>>55100171
Lucky for me, I'm in the 1% where I'm a girl who had to look for a guy who liked Magic instead of the other way around. In case it helps give some insight into "how to get a girl into Magic", I'll say that it was Innistrad that drew me in. Not the mechanics or the cards, but Innistrad itself. I got into Magic through my interest in the art and feeling of the setting.
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>>55100204
>Grill liked the Twilight set
Color me surprised.
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>>55100145
At first I thought Magic Duels would be a good way to introduce a newbie to the franchise but it was actually fucking horrible and everyone I showed it to hated it.
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>>55100229
I'll fuck you up. I ended up falling in love with Mirrodin (because it was Innistrad 1), and from there I got into playing Affinity in Modern. Artifacts are my favorite thing and so my first Commander was Sharuum, which made me fall in love with Esper too.
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>>55099383
Nested ghoul - Whenever a source deals damage to Nested Ghoul, create a 2/2 black Zombie creature token.
Pariah's Shield - All damage that would be dealt to you is dealt to equipped creature instead.
Any way to make something indestructible in black (darksteel plate, eldrazi monument, that which was taken)

Noxious Ghoul - Whenever Noxious Ghoul or another Zombie enters the battlefield, all non-Zombie creatures get -1/-1 until end of turn.
Grave Betrayal - Whenever a creature you don't control dies, return it to the battlefield under your control... That creature is a black Zombie in addition to its other colors and types.
Can get out of hand. Easily board wipe small things, then big things. Gets around indestructible.

These cards individually are not great, nothing else can fill their roles. Are glass cannons degenerate?
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>>55100204
My girl is an art major so I'd like to use that aspect of Magic to get her into it but it's pretty hard since it has nothing to do with the mechanics of the game
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>>55094874
Marduchesa is what ever you want her to be. She's goodstuff, pillowfort, aristocrats, removalandwipes.dec, royalty and advisor tribal, combo, reanimator. Marduchesa can do it all.
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>>55100284
Well, basically like I said for >>55100263, if you want someone to get into Magic, first you find something that will get them to pay attention to it. It doesn't matter how much it involves the cards just yet, the important thing is that they're looking. From there, you can start to see what that person would actually be interested in, and you can use that as a hook to drag them in farther. My path went Innistrad -> Zombies -> Fume Spitter -> New Phyrexia -> Mirrodin -> Artifacts. It just takes finding the first step of that path.
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>>55100303
I'd like to second this and say Marduchesa is fucking awesome political edh deck. I just use a bunch of obscure ass shit and people end up always enjoying themselves when I bust the deck out.
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>>55100319
Well, she did find my foils really pretty (FNM Aether Hub and Masterpiece Wurmcoil among those)
That's a start, I guess
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>>55100319
>Fume Spitter
Also Mortarpod and Phyrexian Metamorph, now that I think about it. Metamorph probably did the most to show me how fun and versatile artifacts could be. A single "fun" card a person loves to play is a great place to go from.
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>>55095345
Believe me Goy, its going up :^)
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>>55097223
>55097223

Sidisi + Sheoldred + Disciple of Bolas
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>>55094400
>hating 2B
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>>55094308
Cute mob is cute! Cute!
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>>55096781
It's a indestructible haste enabler in a deck whose main way to win is punching people in the dick with flying lizards, hell yeah run Xenagod in it. Just make sure he doesn't turn into a creature.
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>>55100532
>So-cute mob
Yes, it is.
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>>55100532
I cant believe i never thought to put this in my Hydra token ramp deck.
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>>55100303
>>55100323
How exactly is she pillowfort/political?
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>>55100648
The assasin token and 3/3 hasty deathtouch commander damage are pretty good don't fuck with me insurance and it is fun letting go of monarch on purpose and watching people beat the fuck out of eachother for monarch while you build up a fort of Ghostly Prison/Sphere of Safety/Kazuul and Darien so that when you land your monarch card you will have and maintain the draw card at end of turn and people will need to pay 7 mana per creature that attacks you and you will get a number of 1/1 soldiers to send flying back at them. Marduchesa is a no lose value engine. Either you're drawing an extra cards or getting a recurring hasty deathtouch token every turn. And potentially both. You can build what ever you want and and she will hold that shit together like glue.
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>>55100532
CUTE
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Which blue cantrips are playable in EDH? I'm thinking of jamming them into my deck to make it run smoother, and I was worried about the difference of not having enough vs encumbering it with the ones too shitty to bother with.

Ponder
Brainstorm
Preordain
Serum Visions
Anticipate
Gitaxian Probe
Sleight of Hand

So, /edhg/, which ones are too bad to run?
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Just finished this UB Taigam reanimator/shenanigans list, any suggestions? I know for damn sure that there are things here that really shouldn't be, and vice versa.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/taigam-the-bad-one/

>inb4 reanimate
>inb4 snapcaster mage
>inb4 fetches/shocks

working on it, not made of money.
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Any of you guys have any ideas on how to improve my equipment storm deck? I think I have it as streamlined as it will ever be but always got that feeling in the back of my head that it's missing something

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/sram-trash-heap-of-victory/
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>>55098044
Does this mean that people will be able to use any planeswalker as their legendary EDH commander? I loath the idea, but some spastics have been demanding it for ages.
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>>55101323
Unless the Rules Committee allows it, no. It's not like you can use Unscythe as your commander just because it's legendary.
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>>55100902
Anticipate and Gitaxian Probe would be the two I wouldn't use.
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>>55100902
Semen sight and slight of hand suck
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>>55100902
What's the deck? Probe is kind of weak if it's not to increase storm count or set off a counter for mizzix. Ponder, brainstorm, and preordain are the holy trinity. Serum visions is alright. I've not played with slight of hand but anticipate is okay. I only play it for cantrip consistency.
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>>55101472
>Probe is kind of weak
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Opinions on Cast Out?
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>>55101565
It's better in 60 card format. I mean it's okay in edh. You peek at their hand and draw a card but okay. Cantrips in general are kind of weaker in edh because you can't run multiple of the same for consistency which is what cantrips are really useful for.
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>>55101576
o-ring effects are kinda weak in EDH. the enchantment will eventually get destroyed by something and your opponent get his creature back, as well as a new ETB
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Scarab God + Kindred Discovery+ Lab Maniac
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>>55101606
>Cantrips in general are kind of weaker in edh
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>>55101640
It gets better if you have Enchantment recursion.
Sadly, it's hampered in that respect by being too large for Sun Titan.
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>>55101648
>Frogposting makes me look clever
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Because our other 2 backed out, my buddy and I played our precon 1v1. I think the Vampire deck is fucking sick, and Eadgar Markov's eminence ability is just so stupid good.

I played Wizards. I got myself into a loop with that 6CMC Minotaur, Havengul Lucy and using Inalla's Eminence ability to get tons of value. It was pretty fucking awesome.

But yeah, it looks like the Eadgar Markov is gonna be the best of the Eminence commanders.
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I stopped following magic years ago, and yet to this day they still haven't fixed comments on gatherer. I mean wtf? Those comments helped me as a novice player and seeing them still disabled is just depressing.
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>>55101648
Yeah, they are. At least compared to 60-card formats.
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>>55101940
They say they are working on it but it's more likely on the backburner because they don't have someone who works on the site.
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>>55094415
Tithe, to search for Mistveil Plains so you can put back your other instants you want to Sunforger.
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Are Ixalan previews today or next week?
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>>55102180
Probably next week. Ixalan drops at the end of September.
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>>55102180
Today is the day we bathe in Midrangefags tears when they update the Modern ban list
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>>55101645
First off it's Locust God
Second off you don't even need a Lab Maniac on the field, or even any untapped lands.
Just draw your entire deck, exile simian spirit guide then cast firestorm, discarding everything but pact of negation (and force of will + 2 blue cards of you're rich)
Lab Maniac win cons are nothing special.
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>>55101648
They literally are.
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>>55099917
Life from the Loam
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>>55099917
Shuffle library for 1 life
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>>55102180
Did wizards say anything about the leaked ixalan print sheet? I mean, if they are going to hype up the set, they will need to preview either new cards, or explain why there was more to the planeswalker type.
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So is Path of Ancestry gonna be another one of those cards people bitch about because people put it in ever deck?
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>>55095701
>She's 40
>cute
>latin
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>>55097054
Radha's already EDH playable.
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Would this combo fit into mono black Sidisi?
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>>55102445
Chances are the leaked sheet has kind of screwed the Ixalan Spoiler Season. Granted, there are cards we can't make out so it's not totally NPH Godbook round 2, but it's still gonna be lame
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>>55102445
>Did wizards say anything about the leaked ixalan print sheet? I mean, if they are going to hype up the set, they will need to preview either new cards
The sheet was blurry as fuck though. They aren't going to acknowledge the sheet and will probably show off either a planeswalker or a legendary creature.
>or explain why there was more to the planeswalker type.
That will only be relevant to whenever they show off the new Jace which is still vague as to what he does. Spoiler season will still be fun since we only saw rares.
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>tfw edgar doesnt making flying vampire tokens
I was sold a lie!
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>>55102483
I know anon. I'm saying I hope we get a new Radha that is EDH playable.
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>>55102486
why embalmers tools and not alter of the brood or blood artist?
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>>55102486
The 1 less to cast doesn't change the B that the Gravecrawler costs
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>>55102486
It would, but I'd probably try to focus on something with more exchangable parts so Sidisi can just tutor the one damn thing that you don't have multiple virtual copies of.
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I'm surprised I don't see this card on more G/W deck lists since it's a tutor Sun Titan can bring back and people almost always run Sun Titan.
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>>55102509
Never mind me, can't read.
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>>55102530
the card you are looking for is rooftop storm
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>>55095127
I run her as my "combat only" deck, and with discard as a subtheme.
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Absolutely disgusting. It looks like a planechase card or some bullshit like that.
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>>55102605
That looks a lot like Hearthstone.
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>>55102605
Source?

Are you hating on Planechase?
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>>55102605
>transformers in ixalan
HOoooly shit, what?????
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>>55101933
>Havengul Lucy

Is she cute?
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>>55096176
SAAAAAMURAAAAI
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>>55102605
looks more like a fantasy flight games card
like netrunner or game of thrones LCG
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>>55102796
everything is a samurai!
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>>55102605
>flavorful borders
>more art
I like it. Ixalan looks like it will be a flavor block. Too bad they couldn't fucking think of a blue planeswalker that wasn't Jace.
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>>55102841
>greatest thief in the multiverse
>pirate setting
>tfw you will never get an eye patch version of dack feydon
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>>55102678
Wotc's twatter.

The only thing that I like about it is the Future Sight land symbol.
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>>55102605
>tfw you start to run out of ideas
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>>55102841
We could even had Tezzeret, he already looks like a pirate, and Vraska vs Tezzeret in a pirate war with dinosaurs would have been great. And they hatefuck in the end
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>>55102972
Didn't Tezzeret replace his penis with Etherium back in Test of Metal?
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>>55102605
>>55102937
>https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/902168905787076611
Post the whole thing, dude. It looks cool as fuck.
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>>55102972
Vraska is SO CLOSE to being cute but they keep fucking it up.
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>>55103028
>tfw this card will be in FTV: Transform
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>>55103028
I hope we'll get more of those
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>>55103028
still looks dumb, invocation levels of thisdoesntbelong
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>>55103067
It's nowhere near as bad as the Invocations. Those things were damn near illegible in some cases.
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>>55103067
Honestly that new frame is probably my most favorite experiment they've done. Better than all the masterpiece frames.
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>>55101323
>Does this mean that people will be able to use any planeswalker as their legendary EDH commander?

It's still not a creature
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>>55102605
I'm actually a fan.

Also Treasure Cove was the best "Treasure" series Learning Company game, fight me.
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Buy your Sisay's (and Honor Worn Shaku) now, /edh/ this is not a drill. Don't complain in a week or a day when she triples in price.

I'm glad we were just talking about this last night and I ordered one then. Now I have to hope the store ships it.

>>55103153
It looks ok and will be a great foil if the foiling process isn't shitty this set.
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>>55103210
>foil riptide lab I ordered was "shipped" but never arrived
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>>55094308
I've bought the new grixis commander deck and want to use pic related as my general.
Can I use activated abilities like the one from Memory Jar with him where I need to sacrifise the card to trigger the abilitie ?
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>>55102605

It works for the set, I think, but I wouldn't want all my lands to look like this.
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>>55103210
>We will soon be able to tap planeswalkers
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>>55103210
Why is she spiking so hard? Is it because they're making PWs legendary?
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>>55103236
Yes, and you sacrifice him.
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>>55103263
Yes
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>>55103263
That's what some speculators are counting on. I don't think they'll be making all planeswalkers legends though. I think it's something they'll only do for a few here and there.
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>>55103293
It's already happened, go to wizards' website.
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My Reki deck got a significant boost. I need to buy a Karn and an Ugin.

Any other good Walkers for monogreen? I ran flip Nissa, but now I can do Garruk and cantrip.
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So it seems people were right. They ARE printing Legendary Planeswalkers...
New jace is legendary. Now I wonder if they will make them all legendary
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they just showed all the leaked cards in full

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/behind-scenes-alleged-ixalan-card-theft-2017-08-28
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>>55103236
Yeah, but you'll have to sac him if you do.
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>>55103336
It says all PW from now on and in the past will be changed to Legendary and are subject to the legend rule.
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>>55103354
>the double strike triceratops is only 3/3
I mean sure, it's never gonna attack solo and you're never casting it because Gishark but damn it could have been a bit bigger.
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>>55103354
Thank you, WotC
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>>55103398
what does this mean basically? You can only have 1 PW on the field?
Or only 1 of each name? (which i thought already was the case)
Can PW now be commanders?

>>55103409
I still prefer Gishark to Gishath
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>>55103264
>>55103366
Nice.
Even if I need to sac him for Memory Jar I have the 7 card draw, can dicard another card with a good act. ability and exil it from grave when i cast Mairsil again.
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TRIPPLE STRIKE CONFIRMED IN IXILAN!
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>>55103354
Ehehehehe, this with repercussions sounds fun.
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King of vanillas.
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>>55103468
what how
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>>55103452
They're changing from the Planeswalker Uniqueness Rule, which was "No two Jaces," to the Legends Rule, which is "No two Jace, the Mind Sculptor."
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Ordered my Sisay right before the article went up, get fucked speculators.
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>>55103354
...Can someone explain this to me? Why is the card on the right a rare? Aside from having one more power, it's totally weaker.
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>>55103452
You can have one of each, multiple of each name. You can do a full Gideon deck now. PWs still aren't creatures though, so unless they say "This Planeswalker can be your commander" like the 2014 Commander deck ones, then no, you can't use them as commanders.
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Well, bought all my Garruks and an Ugin for Reki.

Karn's a million dollars, so I skipped it.
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>>55103468
where did you see this?
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>>55103520
Everything remotely useful is a rare now.
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>>55103513
>>55103527
its on their twitter
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>>55103354
Wow, I love how forthright they're being with this.
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judges how does triple strike work is there a third strike phase now during combat?!
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>>55103543
Give me something solid where is a picture.. Unless its employee twitter, I didnt see it on the MTG page.
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>>55103543
im on their twitter now and I don't see it.
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>>55103236
If Mairsil had been printed exactly like that outside of EDH would he have been Mythic?
I can't see this card being anything more than a rare.
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>>55103568
>>55103573
you fucking retards got duped lol
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>>55103535
Literally the only thing it has over Looter il-Kor is one more power. In every other way it's weaker.
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>>55103354
That black explore pirate is solid gravehate. I like it.
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>>55103520
cards have to be neutered to be considered fair in standard.
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>>55103210
Empress Galina not only steals generals but planeswalkers now too.
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>>55103601
Welcome to the new rarity policy. Lightning Bolt was a common.
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>>55103601
It can block.
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>>55103597
Are you a retard?
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/ixalan-mechanics
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>>55103625
I hope they print good vamps for my edgar deck.

So far Mavren Frein is good, and the +1+1 counter one looks ok
>>
>>55103639
Fair point. Forgot shadow worked that way. But honestly, when are you gonna save that type of creature for blocking?
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>>55103646
He's talking about Triple Strike.
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>>55103646
Whoops disregard me I'm a faggot, I messed up reading the reply chain.
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>>55103646
where do you see triple strike on there?
>>
>>55099322
Revel in it, brother. Build your deck(s) to either withstand more damage/removal/disruption than they can throw at you, put everyone on a timer, or just make whatever explosive plays you're doing more explody. Panic is your friend
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The merfolk of this set are really cute.
>>
Kinjalli is the RW planeswalker
Angrath seems to be a Black Red one
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>>55103646
>double faced cards again

holy fucking shit, stop it wizards. no one fucking likes these
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>>55103646
i fucking hate double-faced cards

do wizards think that people play without sleeves?
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>Jace
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>>55103700
I like them.
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Dino EDH looks pretty janky so far. I like it though.
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>>55103723
holy shit I want it
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>>55103723
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLu4Xw6tcCA
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>>55103723
>New Naya Commander
>It's shit
>>
>>55103784
We've known about him for weeks, anon.
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>>55103723
looks like shit to be honest. its just going to end up like vehicles and energy where there isnt anywhere near enough support and wont be for another decade
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>>55103723
>7/6 with trample and hexproof AND can't be countered

>4GG

wat
>>
>>55103784
He has haste, he's going to punch you in the dick and get at least one dino out, if you wanted more cEDH shit then wew, you're a idiot for looking for it in something that's pure timmy.
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>>55096516
>tfw run both Blood Moon and Conversion in Boros
>>
So they are bringing back damage on the stack with triple strike

Neat.
>>
>>55103723
Kinjalli's Sunwing looks pretty cool.
>>
>>55102506
>>55102510
1. Grave Crawler
2. Embalmer's Tools or Altar of the Brood
3. Phyrexian Altar or Rooftop Storm

Rooftop Storm allows the following cards in the 2nd combo piece
Altar of Dementia
Blasting Station
Spawning Pit
>>
Djeru Gideonfriend Never Lose 1 Million Times Gideon.
>>
>>55103354
>green gets a 4/5 for 4 that draws you cards when it is dealt damage
>blue gets a 2/1 that loots when it deals combat damage and you need to pay 3 to make it unblockable

Just kill blue already
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Am I the only one that likes this stupid thing?
>>
>>55103880
>cheap-ish graveyard removal that draws you cards or Outlasts itself
It's good on curve and can fight Sun Vampire, sideboard worthy.
>>
>>55103880
I like it
>rare
oh its going to be one of those sets isnt it
>>
>>55103916
You mean like every set nowadays?
>>
>>55103935
>You mean like every set nowadays?
no
not at all like every set nowadays
worse
>>
>>55103880
Nope, said so right here:

>>55103610
>>
>Empress Galina price spike
Wew
>>
>Hostage taker is still the same.
yay
>>
>>55103946
>>55103916
Gravehate that either draws cards or gets bigger and "scries" seems completely reasonable for a rare.

It isn't Scooze, but it is closer than you think, even if it does tap.
>>
>>55103959
>Empress Galina price spike
4wutpurpose
>>
>>55103880
really good.
>GY hate your opponent and then draw a card or pump it for 2

this is going to see lots of play. Black aggro
>>
>>55100096
What's a honest commander?
>>
>>55103588
Sure he's way better in edh then in 60 card games but you could play him with a lot of flick to make use of him.
He's still pretty medicore for a mystic but I like him
>>
Every nonfoil Empress Galina has been bought from TCGP, I warned you.

>>55103962
He received day 0 errata. No cancerous game draws.
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>>55103973
>Empress Galina can take control of Legendarys
>PWs are now Legendary
Really cycles the sodium/potassium pumps.
>>
>>55104016
I'm so fucking glad I don't give a shit about either her or sisay and only care for the new vampires for granddaddy markov and pirates.
>>
>>55104013
Yeah, fuck those people. I got myself one from some random card shop called Atomic Empire for 7 bucks just now. I needed one for Mairsil.
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>>55104013
>just bought all the foils
It is a good pain.
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>>55099536
Where you at?
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>in MaRo's State of Design article he says that they were too complex in 2016
>too complex
Fucking kill me, they're gonna dumb it down even more.
>>
>>55104106
>let's pec away at it
Color me shocked that Tabak is gay.
>>
>>55103880
>no sorcery only timing
Get fucked, Outlast.
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>>55104106
i want that janky son of a bitch
so pretty much goes infinite with doubling season right?
just keep making more and more jaces eventually draw/discard whole deck infinite 2/2s
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>>55104137
>outlast

Top of the list for garbage mechanics that could have been amazing if not for the speed restriction.
>>
>>55104106
>The sudden sound of Captain Sisays all over the world being sleeved in Atraxa decks
>>
>>55104173
just like level up :(
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>>55104127
Maro is the cancer killing magic.
>>
>have Vernal Equinox
>flash in Revel in Riches
>flash in Deathbringer regent, cast Fated Retribution, or remove divinity counter from Myojin of Cleansing Fire
>right before upkeep for instant win

Or use a sorcery boardwipe and risk enchantment hate
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>>55104127
>they're gonna

Didn't you notice? It already happened. >>55104106 look at all that streamlining, now players only ever need to remember one universal Legendary rule instead of two very similar but not quite the same rules.
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>Under the new rules, if a player controls more than one legendary planeswalker with the same name, that player chooses one and puts the other into their owner's graveyard.

>This means that if you control Jace, Unraveler of Secrets and cast Jace, Cunning Castaway, both Jaces can exist under your control.

TWO JACE
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>>55104427
Gideon tribal is now complete.
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>>55104427
QUATRO JACE
OCHO NISSA
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>>55104427

ALL OF THE GIDEONS
>>
gideon tribal is now even better
>>
>>55103880
that will be a pretty decent card in standard
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>>55104463
>t2 Tests Gids
>more Gids
>more Gids
>too many Gids to handle
>opponents scoop rather than look at another Gideon
Now do I do it with Djeru or Babby Gids?
>>
>>55104463
NEXT GIDEON
>+1: Search your library for a Gideon card, reveal it and put it into your hand.
>-3: Return target Gideon card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
>0: Until end of turn, Gideon Lord becomes a 4/4 Human Soldier creature with indestructible and "Other Gideons you control get +1/+1 and have plainswalk" that's still a planeswalker. Prevent all damage that would be dealt to him this turn.
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>>55104515
JUST GIDEON MY SHIT UP
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>>55104515
>>55104536
Shaka, when the walls fell, but alter the art to look like Gideon.
>>
reminder to buy all captain sisays that you can
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>>55104549
Just give Shaka a whip. When people say it doesn't look like Gideon remind them that Gideon doesn't look like Gideon.
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>>55104536
Make sure to dress up like gideon and say a bad gideon quote every time you play a gideon
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>>55104563
reminder that sisay is a toxic as fuck investment that already dropped most of its value after the first spike because it wont be played in any other format than edh and that there are only like five good planeswalkers in the format.
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>>55104638
>>55104638
>>55104638
>>55104638
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I like the 'fix' that because a few people play two Niv Mizzets in commander, they're changing the rule for planeswalkers so douchebags can have two or three Jaces out at the same time. We know the sort of player.

I can't understand what was so hard to know that planeswalkers are unique by subtype name so you can only have one Chandra at a time. That's literally all these is to it, it's not hard to get. Planeswalkers are rare enough that noobs won't immediately become scared and confused bringing FLGs everywhere to a halt.
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>>55103502
thats not a vanilla you nigger
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