Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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First for triggered by Guard with bad paintjobs.

>>54184596
Are these particularly common?

>>54184612
you will rarely run into bad paint jobs

>>54184596
That a taster cubbard what else do you eat whilst painting?

Thinking about starting a new army, AdMech is my favourite pick. Are they any fun to play?
I'd start with 3 start collecting boxes, any thoughts?

>>54184596
>TFW still more paint on them than 95% of the Tau armies out there

>>54184596
>deliberately trying to start Guard vs the thread shit
kill yourself

I collect Crons and my fiance collect dark eldar but i wamt to start collectkmg some SM or CSM. i like alpha legion fluff, but im afraid playing them may be boring as they dont have any special units or anything. What can I expect from them for 8th? Should I check out some other factions?

Am I just too obsessed with bad guys?

Inb4 alpha legion aren't bad guys

>>54184666
Im starting to become offended since it's always my shitty Guard he uses.

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How many Techmarines is too many Techmarines?

Is there a lore based limitation on how many Conversion Beamers a chapter can field?
I know there isn't any sort of rules stipulation as far as that goes besides how many Techmarines you can field, since Master of the Forge no longer has a seperate stateline.

>>54184669
No one can really answer that yet. I would just wait until you see leaks.

>>54184669
Alpha Legion has always been more about having a certain play style rather than tons of special units/characters.
Infiltration, MSU, having multiple smaller threats that combined can take out almost anything, that sorta thing. The way I've always played my Alpha Legion is by fielding units equipped in such a way that they have tools for almost all types of targets, which most opponents find extremely annoying to play against because there isn't one clear target they can take out in order to protect their deathstar/big stompy model/other valuable thing.

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Orruk™ Warboss Anon here.
I will not not convert him into Warboss on bike but I still find it pretty gut to let him ride on a chubby boar. How should I build a unit of 5 nobz to save some bits for a Warboss and a Nob with Waaagh! Banner convertion? I mean which weapons should I use on nobz and what should I left from nobz kit for the warboss and banner nob?

>>54184666
>>54184692
Its the same fucking guy who used to start Ork shitshows starting back when the Wulfen came out. He's just a sad falseflagging faggot, just ignore his posts and the replies

>>54184669
CSM are going to be getting a codex soon, and so are SM. Just buy the GWs MKIII and IV plastic kits and maybe some forgeworld bits and run them as either.

>>54184692
At least you've taken the time. I paint well, but i can't stand painting more than half and hour, nor frequently. Your effort is apreciated, anon.

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>Dark Manlets actually unironically fielding Deathwind and Ravenwing in the age of 6 Unkillable Quad Fusion Commander

Thanks for the EZ game, Gue'la.

>>54184726
The best bit to make a Waaagh banner is probably going to be one of the Big CHoppas that comes in the box

>>54184719

What kind of things made them different from the other chapters? Is it just the playstyle? What fluffy rules have they historically enjoyed?

Does anyone have the pdf for the Dark Imperium novel? I know I saw it floating around on here earlier...

Fuck my life, I just tallied up everything I need to do to "finish" the models I've collected over the past 4 years, I've been playing with a half painted half built army that long.

>>54184696
Think you're allowed as many tech marines as you want, they're not limited by the codex astartes.

And beamers are rare weapons, they probably have a lot, but not enough to use most of them if they ever lose or break them.

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>>54184765
Sounds like somebody got his ass reamed by a DA army and is shitposting to hide the pain.

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>>54184783
Never being able to get slay the warlord on Alpha Legion.

>>54184726
DIS ERE MEKKBOY SED E'S GONNA STIK SUM STUFF ON YER BORZ LEGZ SO HE RUNZ AS FAST AS A BIK DUZ, YA GIT

WOT YE SAY TO DAT?

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>>54184692
see
>>54184758

>>54184813
>top right helmet
Looks like Clockwerk from Dota 2

>>54184758
Its just mind boggling to me. I intentionally rush my infantry (because fuck 70+ Guardsmen) and take my time with my Vehicles and 40-50mm guys. I have no illusions that any of it is good but apparently my fruit hangs lower than other "Guardfags"

>>54184813
Tau upgrade packs when?
At least restock the Farsight enclaves shoulder pads gw.
And Farsight. And all the named characters, seriously what the hell.

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>>54184799
>Implying DA are the lowest tier in 8th
>Implying they will ever get out of the index

Buttblasted GayMarines ;^)

>>54184596
Guard players are the only ones who finish their armies. They also seem to be the only ones who consistently play.

>>54184783
Also get to take chosen as troops and everybody gets infiltrate

>>54184765
Was it just the commanders or did you field his flamer bodyguard too?

>>54184848
Man, Tau are so salty they're barely mid tier now.

>>54184770
Well, I have a model with a banner to convert but I'm not sure if I should "sacrifice" a slugga to make a kustom shoota I don't even know how the fuck these weapons are looking desu

>>54184783
The use of cultists (before they had their own unit entry and models) and being able to infiltrate infantry. Alpha Legion has always been light on special snowflake rules, and the only special units they've had are in 30k (which no one ever uses because they're the worst units of that game) It's more of a DIY legion

>>54184863
It'll be interesting to see how/if this translates over to 8th.

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>he buys bitz instead of maiking his own

>>54184870

I do like DIY and kitbashing and stuff. I think I may stick with it.

>>54184869
literally however you want, take an extra magazine/clip from another shoota and glue it onto the housing of the gun sticking out sideways.

It's super simple

>>54184867
>Riptide barely mid tier now

FTFY.

>>54184869
Kustom shootas are just the twin linked shootas the AoBR Warboss uses.

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>>54184890
I just love killing 400 conscript / game

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An Exalted Sorcerer and Ahriman gain the Daemon keyword when upgraded with a disc. Does that mean they also gain Ephemeral Form for also having the Tzeentch keyword?

>>54184887
I'm interested to see what the undivided legions get in the codex. Hopefully something close to traitor legions, I want my fast bezerkers back.

>>54184912
No, stop cheating

>>54184912
No, because they still lack the special rule in their unit entry. Fateweaver also didn't have it untill they added it through the FAQ

What sub factions can I hope for in the Drukhari codex at Christmas time? I'm hope it's not just a split between Kabal, Wych Cult and Coven and that there's seperate versions of each though I don't know how they'll do it.

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What the fuck is this shit?

>>54184912
ephemeral form is not a keyword but rather an ability.

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>>54184966
supply has run out so theyre gonna make some more but you could still find it in the shop

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Who was wrong here?

>>54184966
Appears to be a Carnifex

>>54184996
Lorgar.

>>54185003
That's no longer available online! Not just temporarily out, but apparently not coming back!

>>54184966
People took the money they made selling their unpainted Riptides on Ebay to the GW store to buy their new Carnifexes and GW ran out.

>>54184895
>>54184908
Huh, so I will left him as he is but I will use a cybork head for him and glue a shoota on his back when I buy a boyz box. what about nobz and the warboss? What is the best gear for them?

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>>54184966
They took all the Orks too

>>54185024
>tfw all my LGS has left is two gaunts/gargoyles boxes and a couple hive tyrants.

>>54184851
>>54184827
>>54184758
Apologists, ladies and gents. I bet all your armies look just as ass

Tyranids and Orks after Death Guard then?

>>54184870

Would it be crazy to make alpha legion marines in non-chaos armor? Without the horns and such? Since they are known for sneaky tactics and being I disguise?

>>54184966
I'm assuming it's because nids got a big boost lately so tons of people are buying them. Helps that the models are pretty dope.


>>54184839
Don't pay attention he's autistic. Your guard look pretty good and 75% of shit I see is unpainted anyway so you are doing great lmao. Even if they were painted badly it wouldn't matter, some people are into this hobby for the gaming primarily, some for the painting and modeling, and some for the lore and just to have fun. It's all good.

>>54185057
Used to be all Power Klaws but that is way too fucking expenisve

Id recommend a mix of Big Choppas, Regular Choppas and 1 Klaw. Klaw for the Boss as well

>>54185057
Warboss seems deadly with a klaw, but if you don't want to hit on 3s then you give him a big choppa. Gets him up to 8 strength, good rend and 2 damage.

Nob squads I usually put in one klaw, usually the boss, two big choppas for heavy hitting and the rest choppas. If you're not starved for points just use all big choppas and a klaw or add more klaw for more heavy hitting if you're facing a lot of tough armor or tanks.

>>54185071
Post body

>>54184851

Necron player here, I love painting and basing my army.

But as far as consistently playing, I only wish I could. No friends play. I've probably played 2 games of 8th by convincing my girlfriend to play

>>54185094
You mean uh pre-heresy alpha legion?

>>54184696
There's no such thing.
t. cogboy

storm bolter or heavy stubber for guard vehicles? -1 to hit for heavy and moving, but longer range although higher points cost, opinions?

>>54184910
Hazards are still better for 3+ or better save stuff.

>>54185057
Forgot to mention, if you're REALLY starved for points but still want good rends, use power stabbas. Someone said it's the cyborg spear arm, but I suggest stolen power swords or sword choppas it's sparky bitz glued on.

>>54185017
I bought some shit from Elite Games and they said I'm looking at a 2-week delay for some Death Company marines, because GW have been seriously not pumping out shit at the moment. Fucking annoying - means I'm gonna have to substitute them with another tac squad for the local tourney and I forfeit a CPS since I can't fill my Vanguard slots.

I can only speculate but I think they've diverted a lot of their resources to making bulk batches of these new Primaris and DG kits that a lot of their less popular shit is falling behind on supply.

>>54185131

Did they stop all of the cloak and dagger stiff post-heresy? I would prefer to keep current time period I just don't like the chaos aesthetic sometimes and I honestly feel like the big showy horns are a little bit opposite of the Alphas sneaky MO

>>54185094
Alpha Legion are arguably one of the best ones for not using non-chaos armour.

>>54185124
No game store to go to? If you do visit the store, leave the girl behind.

It just ends up badly if you've never been there.

>>54185149
Storm Bolter is better. BS5+ is shit. Stubber for Pask or Tank Commander since it will be BS3+ and BS4+ on the move for them.

Storm Bolter also gets more shots up close, so it's better on Chimeras or Taurox/Taurox Primes because then you can fire a bunch of shots up close, charge with the Chimera after you unload.

>>54185177
The Alpha Legion's cloak and dagger got even worse post heresy, to the point where it is doubtfull that all AL know what they all are up to. They've even succesfully replaced a lord inquisitor with one of their agents.

>>54185189

I've been to GW a few times, she's been with once or twice. It's pretty hit or miss with it either being dead, or a large group that seems kinda cliquey. Maybe I'm just to shy haha

>>54185216
>>54185182

Well then that settles it I'll be making some non-chaos chaos marines.

>>54185094
I never understood that some marines would sit there and make their armor look "evil". Black Legion? Word Bearers? Red Corsairs? Sure, why not. I can buy that.

But why the fuck are frothing, raging madmen going to sit there and embellish their armor with spikes and gilding the edges of their armor and making scary faces on their knee pads when instead they'd rather just massacre everything in sight, then go massacre everything in sight somewhere else? I doubt even the Iron Warriors would make themselves spiky. They're too busy making shit be as functionally FUCK YOU as possible to have evil spikes. Function over form.

>>54185149
Storm Bolter. No moving penalty and an additional shot within 12" range.

Except you're talking about a Basilisk or other Artillery, of course, where you should take neither.

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>>54184867

>>54185217
We had an autistic dude accompanied by his girlfriend in our FLGS few weeks ago, he took a whole hour to come in and ask someóne for a game.

>>54185195
What about the range? Lot of vehicles, esp tanks have far greater range than 24 or 12 to get into rapid fire, so it be better to actually get those shots, even if you have to move around for positioning. Last ed heavy stubbers were better and look cooler too, you could even put the heavy weapons team shield on them, and probs closer to fluff

>>54185238
Using what rules though?

>>54184650
I don't play them myself, but I do know that Onagers are the best tanks in the game right now if given neutron lasers, and the infiltrators are fantastic.

Gameplay wise they are pretty standard, loads of cheap infantry backed by heavy vehicles.

>>54185268

Probably alpha legion, assuming their rules aren't garbage when they come out

>>54185094
Na, it actually makes more sense to do so, seeing as they don't hang out in the eye.

>>54185071
I bet ive got thousands upon thousands of well painted orks because im not a WAAC army swapping shit posting bait tier faggot like you.

No youre not getting pictures fuck you.

>>54185166
>>54185109
>>54185117
>power stabbas. Someone said it's the cyborg spear arm
Not gonna lie - I have a problem with working out how some weapons look like. Bu thanks for advice

>>54185240
Well I'm pretty sure the World Eaters' armor is possessed to look that way. Like they splattered so much blood on their armour that Khorne thought, "yeah, I dig that" and planted a Daemon onto the armour. That's where the trim and the faces come from and everything else is just dried blood the Marines splatter onto their armour thanks to their Chainswords and -axes.

>>54185296
With Orks it doesnt really matter what they look like, I have no idea what Power Stabbas look like either

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>>54185094
4 U

>>54184832
And?

>>54185259

Haha. Well when you're not used to the community, and only communicate with the community through 4chan, sometimes you may be afraid they will be hostile to newbies so I can see why he may have been nervous. Especially with a girl with him. But he is better off than me, I've never played a stranger

>>54185319
And what? I was just commenting on it.

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>>54184563
Do I have to add two big shootas to the point cost for Zhadsnark da Ripper or do named HQs get a pass for point cost?
Also there is no mention of 'ard case for battlewagons in the xenos 2 book point cost page but In the ork wargear section in forgeworld book they are 3 points.
What da fuck I do about that?

>>54185246
Kharn is bald?

>>54185317

YESSS

>>54185217
Try looking for groups over Facebook and other sites. They tend to have open play days and invite old and new to come play with them.

At least my group does.

>>54185337
No you dont have to add the Big Shootas, No idea about the case, never noticed it wasnt there

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>>54185292
>I bet ive got thousands upon thousands of well painted orks because im not a WAAC army swapping shit posting bait tier faggot like you.
>tfw you have tons of Orks that you've gathered over the years, but you've never had time to paint them.
>tfw you've been playing as da boyz since 4e and realize people will think your a WAAC fag because some of your models aren't painted yet

Fucking sucks man.

>>54185240
chaos forces are known to have slaves or workers making chaos stuff for them and after being in hell long enough your armor will change or start to meld with your skin

at the least iron warriors are very concerned about their safety and hazard stripes while world eaters aquire talismans to show their devotion to khorne

>>54185337
>Do I have to add two big shootas to the point cost for Zhadsnark da Ripper or do named HQs get a pass for point cost?
Look at the damn point lists. On top of each table it tells you quite clearly "Wargear Included" or "Wargear Not Included". With most named characters, it will say "Wargear Included", so you don't have to pay for the guns.

>Also there is no mention of 'ard case for battlewagons in the xenos 2 book point cost page but In the ork wargear section in forgeworld book they are 3 points.
You add it for the Forgeworld stuff and assume the non-FW stuff gets it for free.

>>54185240

This is why if I ever made a CSM army (not that I would, strictly a xenos lover) I'd make them with loyalist marines but heavily damaged or run down, blood painted iconography with marks carved into armour. Maybe fur or trophies of other races.

>>54185408
Place your Assault on Black Reach-exclusive models in prominent positions and label anyone who doesn't know what Assault on Black Reach was a fookin' noob.

>>54185411
>chaos forces are known to have slaves or workers making chaos stuff for them
Even so it always struck me as odd that they would ask their slaves to waste time creating nonsense spiky embellishments and shit when the Chaos Gods have always favored and rewarded action above anything else.

>>54185335
" And?" as in " And that's relevant how?".

>>54184798
I remember old lore had only the Master of the Forge trusted with the Conversion Beamer, but I feel like I could get around that being a Salamander army, since they have a Forgefather and a Master of the Forge, and possibly more high ranking armory staff, considering in the Pantheon council chamber on Prometheus the armory has three seats to represent them, so they have either three Masters of the Forge, or Argos has two very high ranking assistants.

When would you want to take the Servo-Harness instead of a Conversion beamer? It's actually more expensive than a C-beam is, considering it only costs 8 points to replace the base servo-arm (12 pts) with a C-beam(20 pts), whereas the harness requires you to buy a second servo-arm, a plasma cutter (7) and a flamer (9) for a total added cost of 28 pts, and I feel like the long range conversion beamer plus possibly a combi-weapon or something would be a better choice than a making your character that exists mostly for repairing vehicles into a melee fighter, that only gets two more short range shooting attacks and no extra melee attacks, just the option of making two more powerful strikes at WS4+ instead of his power axe at WS3+

Are servitors worth it?

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>>54185405
Thanks!

>>54185484
FUCKING THIS

Running some numbers and Custodians seem really really strong. 54 points with sword/shield. A Lascannon damages them 15% of the time, of which they survive with a wound left a further 33% of the time. Each dude also takes about 90 bolter shots to bring down because of t5 sv2+. Two groups foot slogging with a Culexus is about 650, seems like it would be all but impossible to remove and would roll over anything in front of it.

>>54185501
>Are servitors worth it?
Nope, not now that Plasma Cannons have to make Hit rolls.

Wrapped up the last of the subfaction-specific CSM cost-calculations!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h0hk_IdJ7fivDEjMiIpKM5yMMB8HTm64lZHuKdLZCIU/edit?usp=sharing

The super Smite on Magnus is really nice.

>>54185493
Are you bitching about an offhanded comment in a fucking general lmfao get over yourself, faggot.

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>>54185520
"You just bought then on ebay you fag".

>>54185408
Same here anon, im painting like mad now, also this >>54185484

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>common as fuck unit that everyone has is OP
>HEY GET THIS FW SHIT BRUHH LMAO

every thread

>>54185527
Yep, the only problem is that, without any sort of teleportation rule, they are glacially slow unless you shell out for a Land Raider, which are expensive as fuck. In fact, add 2 Land Raiders and a Dreadnought, remove the Culexus and you pretty much have 1500 points together.

They also struggle with Vehicles a bit. D3 damage isn't so very useful when you'll wound most tanks on 5+

>>54185546
Simmer down, gorgeous.

>>54185602
Nah, I'm good, babes.

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>>54185586
>hating on forgeworld
Just buy chinacast then you sperg.

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If I were to buy the Admech SC, and can only get one other box (like the skitarii or kastelans), what should I get?
I don't own anything else from 40k.

>>54185487
maybe it's like retail

>My master Chaos Lord Bob of the Walmarte Legion, we will be in the warp for the next 72 hours; what is your command?
>Go make me chaos stars. I want the slaves to be detailing power armor with stripes. I better not catch anyone on their phone or i'm taking away arms!
>As you wish lord. Are we reviewing the whispers of the warp?
>Yes, we have fallen to 65% in our devotion to the dark gods. I will have the best rating in the district or I will have your head! Remember to punch out for your allowed blood drinking break as well.

>>54185611
>shitty models
>shitty rules
>shitty prices

>>54184596
PEACH
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>>54185610
You aren't though :)

what is the most boring army to paint

what is the most fun army to paint

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What should I start

>Nidzilla

>Deathwing terminator army

So I just made a pretty good trade and now have a whole lot of Necrons.

What units are you finding good this edition?

I have a 1000 point tournament next Sunday, do I just run warriors and a Ghost Ark?

>>54185669
>boring
Nids with tons of gaunts.
>fun
Chaos stuff

>>54185671
As someone who has both Nidzilla

>>54185671
Nidzilla

>>54185543
Is it worth it to put my dude on bike? Only 12 points for an extra wound and movement.

Though I'm planning on sticking the guy in the thick of my Dreadnought detachment, so he doesn't need to be faster than 6" and he will have Ironclads flanking him to soak up wounds.

>>54185671
Deathwing are cool lorewise but boring to paint.
Deathwing are amazingly fun to play tho

>>54185599
Their vehicle damage looks fine, 5 of them won't one turn destroy unwounded t7 vehicles alone but they will average about 8 damage. I wonder how bad it would be to try and get away with not taking 700 points of landraiders for them.

>>54185321
>Realise I have no friends
>Go to GW to meet fellow autists
>Fail to talk to anyone
And now I'm blogging about it on 4chan.

>>54185635
>wrong
>weren't they pay to win a moment ago?
>they're not really that expensive unless you go and get a titan or decide to pick up HH

>>54185685
Pretty much your bread and butter, yeah. Orikan is practically an auto-include.

Immortals buffed by an Overlord and Triarch Stalker support is also very good.

>>54185714
Yeah, last edition he was able to fire his Conversion Beamer on the move if he had a bike, but the bike doesn't give that bonus anymore, so it's really a matter of choice.

If he's your Warlord, I would suggest you give him the bike, if only to make sure he can survive an additional mortal wound from a sniper rifle.

>>54185784
Shitty rules doesn't mean they're weak.

Badly written stuff with little thought can be strong or weak, but its shitty either way.

And the models look like ass dude. There's like 5 or 6 models total that look good.

Just got a skitarii sc. I'll get one more box. They've got Sicarians, Skitarii, Kastelans and Kataphrons. What do I get?

What the fuck did they do to my Thunderfire Cannons? I was planning on creating a Imperial Fist Dakka army and now im too disgusted

>>54185791
Oh man I didn't realize he gave the Warriors an inv save. Yeah I will pick him up for sure. I'm fairly new but at only 1000 points I can fit 60 warriors and that seems almost unkillable without bigger guns from a bigger point game.

>>54185890
???

>>54185875
Save your money and wait to get anotherSC box. Finish your first one before you keep going.

>>54185962
Godammit kastelan robots are so sexy

>>54185806
I was thinking making my Vulkan He'stan or my Chaplain Dreadnought the Warlord instead of a techmarine, he'd just be there to do cool shit like conversion beamer people and fix the Dreadnoughts.

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>>54185850
The models look great, what are you on?

>>54184993
Who the fuck bought out all the Haruspexes? That's almost 300 points a pop.

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>>54184563
>8th edition is 100 years after 7th
>Every Tau player's snowflake female commander is dead

Feels great man.

>>54185890
the same thing they did to all blast weapons, randomized d3/d6 hits. lasers or flat damage ie 3/2 seem to the go to weapons now

doesn't affect me much since my skullcannon hardly hit and the defiler stayed about the same

>>54185317
It occurs to me that since you can load washes/glazes straight into an airbrush, I could actually perform this technique on 100+ models within the span of an hour.
> Dat feel when you get an airbrush for christmas
> And all your shit is suddenly so much easier.

>>54186058
Gue'vesa battlesuits when?
Farsight is the greater loss though.

>>54186091

farsight is immortal

>>54185850
Infernal Predators
>200pts for:
Combi-Flamer
Heavy Flamer × 2
Infernal Firestorm Cannon

5d6 autohiting 8" shots

2d6 are S5 AP-1 D2
2d6 are S5 AP-1 D1
1d6 are S4 AP0 D1

Warptime can make it move 24"
And as durable as a Predator

Is it worth its points?

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I'm having an awful time making (read: min-maxing) a 2k necrons list with 8rrs.

I've been playing around with the battalion+air wing+ spearhead or the fast attack suppliment, but its just tough getting all the things I want. I really like warriors this edition, especially backed up by orikan, but I'm not running Ghost Arks in these lists because I'm sinking points into D-Scythes and more potent anti armor

What are you guys running?

>>54185612
Robots. Triple phosphor ftw.

>>54186128
Better than a normal predator.

>muh FW so good, so well written, so well balanced durr

>>54185671
Deathzilla.

YUGE deathwing termies.

>>54186061
Feels good to be a Tyranid player right now actually. Exocrines have a flat 6 shots, not D6, and may fire twice if they don't move. The cumsplatter cannon can now shoot more and better than a Leman fuckin Russ.

Old player coming back for v8 here. Do most vehicle accessories like dozer blades just disappeared ?

>>54184563
Awkward question, but where are the rules for force weapons? I cannot find them anywhere

>>54186228
Melee Weapons list

>They're power weapons with Damage D3 instead of Damage 1

>>54186058
>>54186091
I thought Tau fluff didn't cared about agin since Firsight is pretty much inmortal and most characters with name are always in cryogenic sleep.

>>54186228 just add D3 dmg to a power weapon profile.

>>54185714
>>54185806
Also the bike Techmarine does get twin boltgun, which is cool if you want to squeeze a bit of extra attacks out of the guy. And it's a mandatory wargear, I think, making the biker cost 14 points more for 8" of extra movement, an additional wound and an extra storm bolter.

>>54184910
>flamers
>being any good against conscripts
>in "lol D6 hits no matter how tightly packed they are" edition
Are you retarded

>>54186228
There are no special rules for force weapons. They have their own weapon profiles and that's that.

Effectively, they're the same as their power weapon counterpart, but dealing D3 damage instead of 1, no retarded instant death snowflake rules anymore, just a bunch of extra damage.

>>54185090
They'll definitely both be in the next batch of four.

Not because of that shit being sold out though. Carnifexes won't get new kits I guarantee it.

>>54185582
I'd be doing the same except I completely forgot how to paint these guys (that and I need to check and make sure my old Chaos Black primer still works).

I haven't been active since late 5e, so I have zero idea what the "Assault on Black Reach" is.

I do have nearly a full mobs' worth of 2e boyz, gretchin, a lobba (at least I think it's a Lobba... it's a catapult-type thing), and an old 2e warbike that came with no rider when the guy I bought the greenskins from sold me all his Ork bitz way back when. Most of my painted guys are kitbashed right now.

>>54186206
No, they're still on my models. I checked.

>>54184563
Query:
I'm planning on using the mk 3 marines and some of the death Guard pointy helm bits and running them as plague marines.
Would that be ok under tournament standards?
I'm planning on running that team with blight launchers since it's not on the sprue.

The lore for my dudes is unstead of bloated creatures like most death Guard are, they were killed before Nurgles Rot could take full effect and instead became reanimated, dessicated corpses forever unable to leave their heresy era suits.

>>54186194
Exocrine cannon was always supposed to be better then a Russ. Exocrines were originally the Tyranid equivalent of Shadowswords, they're borderline super-heavies.

Fairly new to 40k here, I dont play the tabletop because im too poor for GW, but I read 1d4chan as a hobby and play Dawn of war regularly. I love the setting but I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed by the sheer amount of fluff surrounding everything, while everyone else seems to know so much about everything. Do I just keep reading fluff or is there other stuff I should be doing?

>>54186273
I thought so too.

But as it turns out, yes, nothing is precisely amazing against Conscript blobs, but of all the shit you CAN throw at them, auto-hits of S4+ are still pretty much the best you can do, for the simple reason that they're the most reliable way to force loads of saves on them. And if, by some stroke of luck, you end up being able to fire at their Commisar with the Flamers, you can roast him off the board and make the Conscripts run away screaming.

In point of fact, Bloat Drones are pretty good at liquifying Conscripts.

>>54186313
I mean, the rules to use them, can't find them in the index

>>54186309
Assault on Black Reach was the box set containing Orks fighting space marines.

>>54186317
Yeah you're fine.

>>54186350
Read the lexicanium until your eyes bleed.

>>54186128
3.8 damage vs t7 vehicles, 5.3 vs marines, 9.3 vs guardsmen. Just use Claw+Scourge Hellbrutes instead.

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I've been wondering about getting some Thousand Sons. Dat Magnus is really turning my painting fix on.

What would you feel about fielding Kairic Acolytes as Tzeentch cultists? Would the 32mm bases be a problem? I've been thinking about wether or not give them guns - I've been thinking about just not to and say they shoot finger guns (sorcery). Yay or nay?

>>54185162
you shit 3+ stuff with one of your 6 Quad fusion commander, not triflamer suit

>>54186273
>Removing 100+ conscript a turn is bad

Sure thing bronze.

>>54186304
>>54185090

Why are these NPCs so convinced they're right up next in the lineup?
Ahead of the remaining dozen marine flavours, aeldari, aimperial aguard, and chaeos

>>54186309
>I haven't been active since late 5e, so I have zero idea what the "Assault on Black Reach" is.
>claims he plays Orks
>claims he was active til late 5th ed
>doesn't remember the 5th ed starter set that had Orks in it which every Ork player ever would have bought
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>54184890
Explain me how to make my own plasma rifles for IG please

>>54186364
All the rules on the unit... data cards are everything they have.

Yes, they're mostly gone.

>>54186411
>100+ conscripts
If math is that hard for you no wonder you played the Riptide race to carry you last edition.

>>54186405
>What would you feel about fielding Kairic Acolytes as Tzeentch cultists?
Yay
> I've been thinking about just not to and say they shoot finger guns (sorcery)
Nay

>>54186405
Don't need cultists, you got those bird fuckers.

>>54184912
No, but they benefit from Changling's aura as it affects TZEENTCH DAEMONS

>every thread has that same Taufag shitposting and that same IG asshole posting the same picture of his shitty army

Fucking hell, get a tripcode allready so I can filter you.

>>54186419
Because GW is roughly updating shit oldest to newest outside of the obligatory Vanilla Space Marines come first that happens almost every edition, and they're going to wait the longest amount of time possible before rendering all parts of an index outdated. If you weren't retarded you might have noticed the pattern already. Chaos Space Marines was the oldest Codex, so it's the first one after Marines. Grey Knights are the oldest non-vanilla Marines, so they got updated next. Then it's Chaos Daemons, Tyranids, Astra Militarum, and Orks, except I'm betting that they might skip Daemons for awhile.

>>54186405
Sounds good to me, I use the khornates from aos as khorne cultists.

>>54186425
m8, I wasn't exactly paying much attention to campaigns back then. I was mostly playing games between myself and a couple of my friends outside of GW/LFGS.

Can't blame a guy for not knowing about a campaign when he was a rather casual player.

>>54186353
A 6x crisis Flamer blob will kill 28 cons a turn, then you charge in melee and either make them retreat or you just fall back and shoot again the next turn. Even 20 Khorne Berserkers or 30 boys can't get through a 50 con unit in one turn.

>>54186317
That's a terrible idea, for a variety of reasons.

1) Mk3 Space Marine suits are way smaller than the new Death Guard models. Seriously, the new Plague Marines are huge. Not quite Primaris huge, but still big compared to a normal Space Marine.

2) For now, the only new Plague Marines available aren't modular meaning the pointy helmets aren't separate pieces.

3) The only things that can conceivably work as Blight Launchers are a) the upcoming Easy to Build model holding a Blight Launcher, which, again, isn't modular and is as huge as the other new Plague Marines and b) a Forgeworld Legion Destroyer with a Rad Grenade Launcher (off which the Blight Launcher's design is explicitly based) but as far as I know that Grenade Launcher dude isn't available separately from FW so you'd have to buy a whole Destroyer squad for each Blight Launcher you want.

>>54186529
No problems with larger bases? It's quite a difference in close combat.

Really tempted to paint my Admech in the Ryza scheme, but then Cawl isn't useful to me anymore :/

R'varna or Y'vahra?

>>54186411
Hazards pump out 16 shots each at ap -1 with ats.

>>54186433
>take original bit
>make mold out of it
>recast with greenstuff

>>54186556
I jused used smaller bases, they aren't that expensive.

>>54186538
It wasn't a campaign, it was the starter box. Like the new Dark Imperium one with Ultras and Death Guard that's plastered fucking everywhere? It was advertised pretty much to the same extent in 5th ed. If you played back then it would have been almost impossible to miss it, and if you played Orks it would be been twice as hard.

I love mass marine dakka, so if i can i usually rock as much marine firepower as possible, I play imperial fist so it makes since. End up against someone who bought into the conscript hype. Turns out 200 conscripts cant move effectivly through propper terrain while being drowned in land raider crusade fire and ironclad dread dakka. Taticals with chainswords handled what was left. Deep strike termies on his vehicles.

>>54184790
I have it but I'm not at my computer. Il post later today or tomorrow if I don't forget

>>54186135

Always warriors. As many as you can take. The ghost arks are nice, but if you don't want it then just get enough cryptek to cover your guys. I usually only do 1k to 1.5k matches but 2000 shouldn't be hard at all to build that enough points for all of the fun bits. If I made a 2k it would probably be a CCB (now that FAQ gave it the character keyword) and maybe a couple of stalkers. Really just buy the things you REALLY like first then spend all leftover points on warriors...

>>54186552
Did you deepstrike the suits first?

>>54186552
Yes, that's what I said. Flamers are the best thing for removing blobs. because they're a lot of shots that don't have to rely on hit rolls.

Considering getting the Dark Imperium box to get back into the hobby. Are Stormravens worth a damn? I'd like to try a Chad Marine air assault force.

>>54186445
I know you didnt go to college. but don't make it that obvious.
Triflamer list can remove easily 150+ conscript a turn. We are talking between 36 and 45 flamers in a standard list, on top of ablative drones and 6 Quad Fusion commander

>>54186554
I saw the pointy helms in the 30k section of forgeworld bits
I didn't know the new Plague marines were huuuge
Also I wasn't planning to run a blight launcher in that squad, mostly cause buying a destroyer squad would be useless for me.
Btw are they announcing DG termies?

>>54186593
>Tacticals with chainswords
Que?

>>54186572
>recast with greenstuff

I feel like a dumbshit for not thinking about this before. Is the quality okay though ?

>>54186572
Tried the R'Varna a few times lately and it has done nothing but make huge sucking noises. Especially against Nids, the thing it was made to kill, it just gets tied up and did jack all.

>>54186590
IT WAS A STARTER BOX?!?!

AND I MISSED IT BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE REGULAR TRANSPORTATION ON HAND BACK THEN?!?!

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUU-

>>54186643
Also noticed I didn't write NOT running, my bad anon.

How does this look for a Genestealer Cult list?
Its for 2000 points, something as a goal to work up to.

+ HQ +
>Acolyte Iconward [53pts]

>Magus [85pts]: Familiar, Power: Mass Hypnosis

>Patriarch [150pts]: Power: Might From Beyond

>Primus [76pts]

+ Troops +
>2x 5 Acolyte Hybrids [103pts]
Demo Charge, Heavy Rock Drill, 1x Hand Flamer

>2x 10 Neophyte Hybrids [61pts]
2x Grenade Launchers, Shotguns, Bolt Pistol

>3x 10 Neophyte Hybrids [72pts]
Heavy Stubber, Mining Laser, Autoguns

+ Elites +
>5 Hybrid Metamorphs [117pts]
Cult Icon, 2x Whip, 3xTalon, 1x Bonesword, 1x Handflamer

>2x 10 Purestrain Genestealers [100pts]
10xTalons

+ Fast Attack +
>2x Cult Armoured Sentinel [55pts]
Plasma Cannon

>Cult Scout Sentinel [50pts]
Autocannon

+ Heavy Support +
>Cult Leman Russ [235pts]
3x Heavy Flamer, Eradicator Nova Cannon

>2x Cult Leman Russ [190pts]
2x Heavy Bolter, Battle Cannon, Lascannon

>>54186558
>Paint Cawl in Ryza scheme as well
>say they're all from Mars and their Servitors accidentally cleaned their red cloaks too hot and they all became orange

Is this really so hard? So long as Forge World Ryza doesn't have its own unique set of rules, just count them all as Mars.

You'll be SOL once Codex: AdMech comes out and you end up wanting the Ryza-only traits, but eh

>>54186657
Oh fuck your right, i'm a cheating fuck. I thought you could replace their bolt pistol with chainswords. To much time playing CSM

>>54186693
Google "battle for vedros" and see if it's available in your country.

>>54186552
>20 Khorne Berserkers or 30 Boyz cant go through 50 cons in one turn
In what world do you live

>>54186703
Good point. I'll wait for codex then.

>>54186135
Necron Air is really not that great this edition. And by "not that great" I mean complete trash.

If you are looking for good anti armor, you might want to try Tomb Sentinels : big scary gun, good body and annoying threat that needs to be dealt with un your opponent's deploy zone. I run two coupled with a Triarch stalker to make them hit more reliably. Also, the model is gorgeous.

Also, as >>54186600 said, you never have enough warriors.

Also, Also : Tesla weaponry is a trap : you don't get that much extra hits to justify it as anti horde weaponry and the AP - makes them pretty shitty at killing armored stuff. In short, go Gauss or go home for every unit you get.

>>54186641
>Triflamer list can remove easily 150+ conscript a turn
Oh yeah? 2200 points worth of Crisis Suits?

>>54186697
I should add that this is a Brigade detachment for +9CP

Do flamers auto hit during overwatch? Rules state a 6 is always needed regardless of modifiers.

>>54186135
Run warriors in big blobs, run something to baby them (lychguard or scarabs), crypteks and overlords. You need overlords to boost your bs or melee abilities, crypteks to get your guys back, and the shrink wrap to prevent telepory charges.

>>54186759
Flamers don't roll to hit, they always hit. So yes.

>>54186643
Ah, okay, then yeah, Mk3 and FW Death Guard helmets works out perfectly.

The DG Termies haven't been announced yet precisely, but a picture was leaked from Warhammer World of a Death Guard Terminator holding what appears to be a Plaguespitter. No clue what their standard loadout is going to be, so don't buy any Deathshrouds or Grave Wardens yet.

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>>54186572
>Hazards pump out 16 shots each at ap -1 with ats.

I know I have 9 of them, but they are strictly worse tham triflamers suit for both anti-fliers (very important) and antihordes.

And the 3+ thing you shot with the quadfusion anyway.

>>54186774
Thanks for the info anon

>>54186753
I mean you can even math or even bother opening battlescribe. I cant do anything for you anymore

>>54186734
Berzerkers with axes and pistols and boyz only kill about 40. Of course they'll never get there at full strength.

>>54186830
Take Zerkerkers with axes and chainswords then.

>>54186797
>battlescribe
You literally need a listwriting program to hold your hand for you and keep making up bogus numbers about flamer performance that are way out of whack and you think I'm the one who can't do math? Top kek

Please go invest in a bunch of crisis suits with triple flamers so we can all hear about the total ass-devastation when you get beat hard.

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>>54186753
huh bro, even 12 crisis will remove on average 75+ conscripts. and its like 800 points

>>54186882
Try calculating again, remembering that flamers don't have AP in this edition.

>>54186879
So you cannot math AND cannot read.

AstraMiliCuck eternally BTFO once more

>>54186882

Triflamer
3d6 shots
10.5 hits, 7 wounds, 4.67 GEQ kills
*12 suits
56 kills

>>54186918
I don't play IG you dumbfuck

>>54186882
The Immolation flamer that is S5 AP-1 2D6 has problems with deleting more than 4 Cons on average

>>54186939
Astra Milicuck in full denial

P O T T E R Y
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>>54186882
12 suits get 36 flamers, which get 126 hits, of which 84 wound, and 56 aren't saved. If that;s 800 points I have to agree with the autist screaming that you can't kill 150 cons within 2000pts wort of triflamer suits.

>>54186830
Is this adding the extra attacks from Green Tide, Choppas, and the Boss Nob?

Cause that's 116 attacks form 29 Boyz

>>54186660
You'll need a bit of practice, first few will come out wrong. I'm still trying to get my uruk crossbowmen just right but a gun is far simpler than a whole model.

Is it a bad idea to run a melee Leviathan dreadnought?

>>54186515
Is this a double falseflag or are we up to triple?

>>54186925
Just to add to this

Factoring in the price of conscripts vs triflamer crisis, the suits need 5 turns of shooting just to break even on their points. That's if they don't take any casualties all game.

Good luck getting 5 turns of shooting when you cannot shoot flamers after Deep Striking and starting on the board puts you way out of range. And if you pay for a bunch of stealth teams with homing beacons then you just added to the points you need to make back, so it actually hurts your situation rather than helps.

Flamer spam is a shitty meme that won't survive the early meta.

>>54186993
Is it a bad idea to run naked through a howler monkey enclosure with my bare ass stuffed with peanut butter and grapes

What's the best setup for a Chaos Lord in Terminator armor?

>>54186993
Yes but think how fucking manly that Marine is

>>54186925
so you definetly cannot math.

Are grey knights getting updated models anytime soon?

>>54186918
Say that to my Startes Flying Circus, stay on denial Riptide Fag, are your Crisis even primmed?

>>54187030
That's not the same anon, but his math is exactly on the money. At this point you're either baiting or actually retarded.

I mean you can't even spell the word "definitely" you fucking idiot.

>>54186830
>Berzerkers with axes and pistols
Yep, stopped reading right there. Nobody plays Berzerkers with Pistols, you idiot. You replace their Bolt Pistol with a Chainsword so you get another attack in melee (2 actually because you get to fight twice) on top of the 2(/4) Axe attacks.

>>54187008
This.

Also I would argue that Conscripts spam and horde armies in general are pretty memetastic as well and only work on mathhammer.

First tourney results put flying circus at the top for now.

>>54186925

Oh right I forgot morale
So pop commisars for big kills

>>54186974
30 with green tide and pistols and big choppa nob is 39 kills.

>>54187080
Pop the commissar with what?

>>54187019
Prolly chainfist with combi-bolter or combi-plas. Combi-melta maybe.

>>54187077
>Also I would argue that Conscripts spam and horde armies in general are pretty memetastic as well and only work on mathhammer.
Agreed.

Stormraven spam seems to be the real issue atm, but then nobody has had much time to adapt yet so we'll see how things shake out in the next month or so.

>>54187097
Surprisingly low, guess that's why you take Banner Nob

Assuming Angron and Ghazzy both show up at Armageddon, at the moment Angron (being a Chaos empowered Primarch and all) would beat Ghazzy pretty handily in a fight right? Would it be reasonably to have Ghazzy be like, the Beast sized and blessed with strength and such by Gork and Mork? Would that be enough to make the difference?

I know this is speculation about something that might not even happen, but I personally find it interesting because these are both fight-happy melee characters.

>>54187023
I used to run em claw and drill and yes he was quite the badass but now it seems like shooting is in vouge

>>54187112
Sniper drones hit on 3+ (if a marksman and controller are nearby) and rapid-fire at 24".
Tau rely a lot on unit synergy now.

I have been out of the loop since before 8th was confirmed. Can anyone give me the cliff notes of what has happened

>>54187141
Ghazzy was last seen fighting bugs on Octarius, it was said somewhere that after Tzeentch and Khorne turned half of Armageddon into a daemon world the Orks there were forced to team up with the Guard and now there are barely any left. And Angron never showed up because Tzeentch cucked him or something.

>>54187062
More like nobody has converted their berzekers yet idiot, with axe and sword they get 49 kills, congrats you win.

>>54187113
What exactly are the benefits of combiweapons?

>>54187019
For when you need to be a jackass and ruin a Power Level game? Chainfist and Combi-Melta.

For actual games? I'd say give him two Lightning Claws and have done. Bunch of attacks that hit 2+ rerollable and can reroll To Wound and have decent AP, all for pretty cheap.

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>>54186697
Anyone up for a bit of advice?

>>54187169
Fluffwise or rules-wise?

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>>54187169
Riptide wing is kill, taufags eternally btfo and are trying push flamer memes.

>>54187197
I think the triflamer is just finding SOME use for crisis, given that Commanders are strictly superior in almost every other department. Triflamers are okay for anti-horde, but that's about it.

>>54187190
Fluff first. I hope they power uped the nids like they needed to lore and rules wise

>>54187178
>More like nobody has converted their berzekers
>implying I didn't build them precisely that way originally because I thought it looked cool
Not even bullshitting, I got so much flack for building them "WYSIWYG-illegal" and now I get to fuck shit up with them.

>>54187187
Will you post tummy and/or butt after we advise?

>>54186029
It's for the Exocrine.

>>54187179
Give you a special weapon to shoot.

You can fire it on both setting for a penalty of -1 to hit for extra dakka.

>>54187197
Their favorite new meme is the quad-fusion commander.

After they failed to kill my Flying Hive Tyrant with TWO of them last game and immediately got overrun and fucking annihilated in close combat the turn after as thanks for their troubles, my local Taufag is furiously shit-talking people on the internet for being bad at this game and my keks are bottomless

>>54187216
They can take cyclonic ion blasters now, I was thinking of using that for anti-hard.

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>>54186882
>12 crisis
>remove 56 conscripts according to anon's math
which is 168 points
>750 points of conscripts + orders remove 12.34 battlesuits each turn which is 800 points
ayyyy
inb4 ethereal damage control" b-b-b-bbut you won't get them all in rapid fire range"
you won't get your 12 tri flamers in range with your 8 inch move and 9 inch deep strike at the end of the phase either
conscripts are almost 5 times as effective

>>54187169
Wounding has changed, it's toughness is double strength for 6+, half strength for 2+ now
Ws became a standard role to hit
Initiative is gone, chargers attack first, then it's I pick unit to attack, you pick unit to attack
Vehicles have a toughness and save like everything else
Ap is now a modifier to save
Cover is a lot weaker, if you're in terrain (and obscured by it unless infantry) you get +1 to your save, no intervening going on
Deep striking is over 9 from enemy, no scatter
Templates gone
Charge restrictions almost all gone
Characters can't attach to units, but can't be shot unlss closest model
Things cause multiple wounds now
Instant death gone

>>54187147
I imagine it just loping forward like the Imperial Knights in DoW3 trailer, smashing things aside to get to its opponents

>>54186058
Was gonna say, they cryofreeze their commanders for future service constantly, I suspect Shadowsun doesn't spend more than a few months out of cryo at a time, and only then during battles.

>>54187187
Too much has changed for Cult this edition, I'm not sure what I can offer. My only advice is play the list and see what works and then make adjustments.

Also work Goliath Trucks in if you can, they're fucking wonderful.

>>54185109
>>54185117
>>54185166
I just notcied that none of you has recommend a slugga or any other shooty weapon for a nob - why? Are they useful only as full melee?

>>54187263
How many conscripts can a max flock of Razorwing birds take out?

Melta or assault Cannon on a contemptor?

>>54187320
>orks are a dakka race
>bs5+

>>54187222
All right.
>Cadia got run over by Failbaddon, Creeed got stolen away by Trollzyn
>Biel Tan got fucked so hard the Eldar Death Goddess Ynnead was finally born
>Rawbooty Girlyman woke up from stasis and basically crowned himself Nu-Emperor
>Before he got put in stasis 10.000 years ago he told the head Tech Priest Cawl to use Primarch geneseed and make some super Space Marines
>those super Space Marines are now finished
>just in time too, because a giant warp rift split the whole galaxy in the middle and every part of the Imperium is now mega fucked up
>Girlyman and his super Marines and some Custodes and other stuff are now flying through space systematically un-fucking shit as best they can
>but Chaos keeps fucking things up even faster
>Tyranids and Orks are stronger than ever
>Crons are Crons

>>54187222
We haven't seen much new nid lore yet, Leviathan sort of lost/is losing everywhere but they brought back Hydra from 5th edition as a new major Fleet that's cannibalizing all the old splinter fleets right now.

Rules wise they fucking kick ass if you know how to play em.

Hey guys I am a mass infantry guard player who only uses painted models and has played in prev edition and whatever I can say to make it look like I'm not a WAAC guy.

Is there any sort of accepted method of speeding up dice rolling if I have to roll something silly like 400+ dice in one turn or will people just have to sit there while I pick out the 5+ rolls. I don't want people to be waiting on me rolling that many dice.

>>54187325
Not enough. Razorwings are a worse meme than memescripts.

>>54187320
It's not bad just dont spend points on it

>>54187372
Seems legit.

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>>54187187

Purestrains are 10pts each and absolutely fucking broken.
Broken enough to make Acolytes and Metamorphs completely redundant.
In fact, Metamorphs were shitty to begin with.

Your army should consist of nothing besides Purestrains, the HQ to run them, and maybe some shotgun Neophytes to look cool.
Hope you didn't buy too many £5 Acolytes last year.

>>54187345
Thank you, how did they new Marines thing blow over with the community

>>54187325
7

Could someone please link me to a repository of 40k audio books? I'm sure there was a Mega link once but I seem to have lost it.

>>54187317
Thank you nevertheless.
Are they? They just seem so expensive for a few Autocannon shots at 5+ if you move

>>54187372
You won't be considered a WAACfag, just annoying to play against. Try to find a dice rolling program and ask your opponent.

I only have one blob of 30 Conscripts, but I usually bring 2-3 heavy weapon squads and 3 infantry squads and my turns take fucking forever. My games are super fun, but take so long with all the dice rolling that ends up doing very little.

>>54187048
>Startes circus vs a list wherre everymodel can btfo the stormshit in assault and where 6 Unkillable QuadFusion commander could btfo 12 StormShit by themselves

When will they learn

I have a ~1000 point Tau army from 7th I have no Riptides the other tau players at my LGS laughed at me for it and they're doing just fine but I want a change
Do I pick Death Korps mechanised infantry and make my wallet cry or Thousand Sons and hope they get their own psychic discipline in the codex?

>>54187320
Points really, don't wanna spend it on big choppas and kustom shootas. You go one or the other, not both.

But slugga help when you can shoot into close combat.

>>54187425
Because of the new matched play rules, half of your army needs to start on the board, only half can Ambush. That means you want a way to get those guys mobile, since RttS is no longer a thing. Goliaths are relatively cheap and tough, so they get your guys where they're going in one piece.

>>54187423
it's in the OP in the old crap section

>>54187345
>head Tech Priest Cawl
He's not Fabricator General, just some random Archmagos out of thousands who happens to be radical as fuck. He WANTS to be FabGen, though, which to me is excellent grounding for a Mechanicus Schism book at some point where the Lords of Mars throws all her spectacular bullshit at each other, and we can get out DarkMech on in the meantime.

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>>54187398
>In fact, Metamorphs were shitty to begin with.

What the fuck were they thinking

10 pts Stealers are retarded too, I'll feel dirty fielding them. At least Shotgun neophytes are dope though, love those guys

>>54187197
>Complain about Taufag while reposting the pic I Taufag spam with in everythread

Here is another of the same set faggot

>>54187400
Well, from day 1 GW have been telling people the NuMarines AREN'T replacing the normal ones, but people still keep bitching about their armies being worthless.

desu it really doesn't help that once you've seen Primaris Marines in real life, normal Marines look grotesquely misproportioned.

>>54187464
Thousand sons. Try something new.
Make them proper TSons though, 30k bodies and upgrade packs and all.

>>54187425
Don't foget the democharges and passengers firepower.

>>54187398
I heard that too, but i would want to avoid full-on WAAC if possible. Thanks for the heads-up anyway

>>54187433
Yeah see I want to make it less annoying. Hopefully I can find something and someone accepts me using it instead of rolling so many dice.

How do heavy weap squads work out for you? I thought they'd get wiped first turn like in 7th.

>>54187464
>laughed at you for not owning a riptide
Why does tau attract cunts ?

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>>54187249
Thats why you have Triflamers Bodyguard faggot. Tyranid eternally btfo and loose 80 gaunt to overwatch

>>54187433
I really wish that die-rolling apps become more standard. Especially when it comes to things like the Flockspam. The idea of rolling 80 dice, rerolling 2 out of 3 dice, just *to* hit, for a single 70-point unit (or being on the end of such a rolling process) really isn't my idea of fun. :/

>>54187484
just let papa Cawl be fabricator General, I mean besides forbidding GitS logic engines what has the current FG done?

>>54187489
well?

>>54187464
>playing the WW1 guard as mech infantry
Almost as bad as FFG making the Napoleonic guard mech infantry

>>54187320
Skorchas are fine on nobs. Either Skorcha+Big Choppa vs saw or Skorcha+choppa vs 2 big choppas as a compromise between damage vs marines or vehicles.

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Take good care of your drone dogs.

>>54187489
Post it then, I need more fit tiddy.

>>54187527
because they have serious inferiority complexes which they disguise with a superiority complex

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>>54187263
Pic of 750 points of conscript build (not even painted)
:^)

Keep dreaming on the paper faggot.
every tau player as 12 suit, 1 or 2 guy in the world have 750 points of conscript

>Astra Milicuck being this assblasted

>>54187479
Ah, forgot that rule. I'll see what i can change, but i reckon it is not possible to fit all that into a Brigade...
>>54187510
Do they get Demo Charges for free? And Heavy weapons get -1 if the Transport moved right?

>>54187537
I'd say considering Mars is full of Daemons, rouge AI, radioactive mutants and a fucking C'tan any Fabricator General that doesn't let Mars fall is doing a good job

>>54187528
Flamers on Overwatch do practically nothing to big bugs, lol. They just charge first to absorb the OW fire and then the stealers come in behind. Gaunt fire killed most of the drones before they got a chance to soak wounds.

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>>54187544
sorry, name is nessa devil, yes she do HC

>>54187551
>what is the 23rd mechanised regiment

>>54187614
Cawl will just get his personal army of IW and AL primaris marines and organize an expedition to the noctis labyrinth to go get the STC to make black hole cannons

I still prefer that than organizing auctions for forges in Mars

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If deathwing is viable and fun this edition, does that mean Draigowing is viable too?

>>54187528
Stop sucking tau dick, gw does it enough.

>>54187665
Most deep striking stuff is decent this edition.

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>>54187665
>Deathwing viable

hunhun

>>54187643
I didn't say they mech Krieg didn't exist in the fluff, I said it goes against their aesthetic.

Drone spam is more cost efficient
240 pts of drones 17.76 geq kills
Include a drone controller somewhere nearby
26.67 geq kills
If you have fireblade in volley range too
40 geq kills

>>54187684
That is a fucking great colour scheme right there

>>54187527
>Confusing cunts with WAAC players
Honest mistake, take some time to disregard the tau hate and learn to spot the WAAC faggots. Then vow to never, ever play them. They burn out fast then.

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>psycannons suck
>but kheres assault cannons are great

>>54187665
Was curious about this too. Look at this report:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIOc_HulB8g

>>54187520
Lascannon and Missile Launchers get targeted instantly. If you deploy them in cover, the 4+ save will help them survive long enough to take an okay amount of fire, which is nice, but so far they haven't lived longer than 2 turns. They've never done much damage for me either.

Mortars are really great and cheap. They don't do a lot of damage, but they usually fire all game for me. Heavy Bolters are also not targeted very much, but they don't do much damage either. I might throw in my heavy weapons into infantry squads instead.

>>54187535
It's a pain in the ass for everyone involved. I rolled 120 dice to get like 1 dead Marine. That's why I only take 1 Conscript blob, but even so, all my heavy weapon squads, and infantry squads and the blob do a lot of rolling for few results. Most of my damage comes from Bullgryn melee, Ministorum melee, Manticores and Tank Commanders. The rest of the shooting is spending lots of time to soften up units by 1-2 models or wounds.

>>54187665
How is deathwing viable again?

>>54187759
its only viable in bronze league

Anyone used Anna Bess recasts? Are they good quality?

>>54187618
they do more than you think.
sure only 1/9 get through for damage, but if you need to charge a big bug and a swarm into a single suit you're committing a lot to each suit.

If it's a group of multiple suits, thats going to add up to enough damage the big bug has a reasonable chance of dying.

The better plan to me would be use something with adrenal glands and charge from 8.1 inches away, so you only need a 7 to make it in and flamers can't overwatch.

>>54187766
>>>/v/