Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1446: Time Cube Edition

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Continuing on https://pastebin.com/DBXDuipL

>>52742935
>Swampborne Stagger
I'll look into it.

>perfect defence primacy
Well the way it works is that there are conditions in which you can't dodge or parry, the way it works is that such things get around Perfects by saying they are not-applicable. Some Perfects are so Perfect they explicitly say you can block even the unblockable/Dodge the Undodgeable. Perfects are expensive and have some odd interactions with such spell and techniques.

>>52742982
>No, you don't.
Er... > A being of any other origin than Kami that has Jumper of Flesh and Spirit gets a free purchase of this as well. Kami with Jumper of Flesh and Spirit will get three free purchases, so six links total.

Yeah you do.

>Having an option even mention in-jump purchases is questionable
I wanted to be clear on what it did and this word is fairly clear.

>The way it is now, the reflections wouldn't even have memories and skills obtained elsewhere.
Are you talking about the Jumper of Spirit and Flesh here or the Duplication Magic? I can't tell with your terms flipping around.

I've been gone for about two weeks, any update on WoW?

>>52740869
https://pastebin.com/06ieRHLc

Continuation of writechain, in Rurouni Kenshin.
>tl;dr Everything goes wrong. Everything.
Warning: This one isn't very funny.

>>52743125
I get that, it just seemed odd that this spell goes out of its' way to say even Charm-empowered parries don't work.

>>52743025
That's not true. Out of FF1,6,7,8 and 11 Gilgamesh only appears in 8 as a GF and 11 as a random NPC. Until the anon that claimed the other jumps finishes them, you only get 2 Gilgameshes out of FF.

>>52743158
Will you fuck off? We were talking about Fate/GO you sour grape.

>>52743151
It doesn't really go out of it's way to say that, as far as I can tell?

>Once the orb has exploded, the outpouring light cannot be parried and may only be dodged or soaked by means of perfect defenses.

>>52743158
ITT: We start this "nonexistent jump" bullshit again.

>>52743158
Honestly if you wanted to be a salt monster over Final Fantasy you didn't even get all the ones you're supposed to pretend are the only ones we've got when shitposting.
God it's like you don't even like FFTA or something.
Not like Gilgamesh is in that one, but you shouldn't forget it.

How big are the corpses of the Neverborn?

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>>52743151
Unblockable is unblockable unless you have a charm that explicitly states that it blocks unblockable things, at which point Defense Primacy is once more in the parry's favor. It's odd.

>>52743125
I think he means that if you just bought Divine Intervention without anything else, a large part of the perk's effects would do nothing.

Personally, while I like the perk a lot, I think he has a point in that it can be very empty if you don't have the right background or additional purchases, although I disagree with his logic in that even if in-setting Kami do not acquire their abilities through point-buy purchases, the Jumper's own acquisition of stuff through CP purchases is an abstraction that doesn't need to be directly equated with how it works in-setting.

Uh, what I'm getting at here, is that making one Symbolic Link free with Divine Intervention could fix it, even if it's a band-aid type of thing. Your call on whether you should bother doing so.

>>52743190
But senpai the jumps don't exist and you can't look them up in the drive :^)

>>52743190
The jumps don't exist until they're replaced why is that so difficult for you to understand?

>>52743192
My bad on forgetting FFTA

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>>52743216
Find me FFXV on the drive. Oh wait you can't because we rejected it for being trash.

>>52743234
And given how much you keep pushing this fucking envelope like a politician with something to prove, your intellect doesn't exist far as I'm concerned.

Let people jump what they fucking want to jump and stop pretending like you have any degree of clout you sack of rejected garbage.

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>>52743204
Ah I see! That makes a ton more sense, however he was talking about the clones to begin with which means the Jumper of Spirit and Flesh thing was a valid argument.

If he's talking about that then I guess you're right. Band-aid application might be a thing, just a note that if you have no Symbolic Links you gain one of your choice with the purchase of the Capstone would be good?

Thanks for the explanation!

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>>52743199
They're described as tomb-cities. But spatial dimensions are /really/ weird down there by Mouth of the Void.

>>52743158
Gilgamesh in 11 is a samurai pirate though.

He also shows up in 10 doesn't he? As a summon?

>>52743247
It was never posted to be rejected.
There was a desire for it, but interest waned when people realized that someone was literally running a cyber bullying campaign to fuck with anyone who expressed favorable opinions about it.
So no it wasn't rejected. Someone quite a lot like you was just such a collosal shitter that it wasn't worth the trouble uploading here.

>>52743264
>>52743292

Just ignore them, anons.

Seriously. They do this only to get a rise out of people. Let them fester already.

>>52743264
No.

People are only allowed to jump what I SAY they're allowed to jump.

>>52743244
> devour other pocket dimensions that you gain
Vid-related. Don't actually stop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pusZXECS0mM

>>52743190
>>52743158
Which one of the FFs are up for replacement? If I've played them I'll make a jump for it. Or who has the current claim on them right now?

>>52743320
Fuck off already, hombre.

>>52743108
Would it even be possible to create a time cube planet? What would something like that even take to create?

>>52743303
You're right. Lets argue about perfect defenses instead.

Do you think Sting would be enough to beat Adamant Skin Technique?
I don't think so, but since sting beats everything but magic and conceptual stuff which can merely "stand a chance" I dont' know.

>>52743285
>Gilgamesh in 11 is a samurai pirate though.
Maybe it is a good thing I stopped playing FF

>>52743334
I ask a question and you decide to blow a fuse?

>>52743320
You could replace FF6 if you want.

>>52743340
Coin-flip.

Heads, Sting wins.
Tails, Adamant Skin Technique wins.

>>52743244
Are multiple purchases of Domain discounted?

>>52743340
Within the Exalted jumps, Adamant Skin Technique.

Out of the Exalted jumps, >>52743356

>>52743244
Does a weapon imported into Soul Sword become unable to harm mundane matter?

>>52743244
Why is being God of a single element and being God of all Magic priced the same? One is far, far better then the other.

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>>52743244
>dimension lord v2 hell edition
I shouldn't like it as much as I do. I'm not even a demon kind of guy, but it's definitely got the kind of swag I want.

>>52743244
I don't think you actually listed the origins?

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>>52743340
Adamant Skin is soak. Sting is something that punches through things by being unsoakable. Adamant Skin doesn't have an 'Soaks the Unsoakable' clause so it'd go to Sting if I'm thinking about these interactions right.

>>52743353
They're just pissed because it's been used a shitposting point for so long and no one has bothered to actually replace the jumps. Nine, ten, twelve, thirteen, fourteen are all up for replacement and a couple of the smaller FFs too, probably look on the drive and just ask to check

>>52743374
>Within the Exalted jumps, Adamant Skin Technique.

Home field advantage?

>>52743244
It's funny how many things are just DC Occult's stuff with a different name and buffed more.

>>52743374
>>52743356
Neat an actual ruling. I was just trying to make a distraction, but it's nice to know there's a real answer.

>>52743382
Not all gods are equal. News at 11. Also, it says that your power and resistances are decreased the broader your domain.

>>52743244
>Black Swans
Whats the background on this? Anyways, can't wait to see it finished.

>>52743137
It's going like garbage because the jumpmaker is actually, legitimately garbage.

>>52743395
Defensive Primacy is mainly a part of the Shinma I think? Been a while since I got into the gritty details.

>>52743411
So why does it give examples for those two types of Gods where the Magic one can cast magic just by thinking about what he wants to happen and the lightning one can call down a lightning bolt. If they're meant to be weaker the broader you are, the perk certainly doesn't reflect that with it's examples. If they're not equal, they shouldn't be priced as equal.

>>52743394
But here's one point you're forgetting, shitposter.

Dirge acquiesced the jumps to Brutus. So technically, you need to ask Brutus for the right to replace them.

>>52743137
There has been, but since it's all been spoilered anonymous posts instead of a pastebin I couldn't direct you.

>>52743394
Thanks. I'll take a crack at 10. Didn't play much FF after that

Would Exalted Shaping Defenses work against Ziz and Behemoth's respective dickery in Worm? Do Terrestrials have access to Shaping Defenses?

>That whole 6+ custom charms argument
I can't be the only one who literally couldn't give less of a shit about charms, right?

When it came to wanking the DnD spells I have, I didn't actually fucking bother to look any up or do the leg work of creating my own, I just fucking made up that I had it, because why wouldn't I? Jumpchain is single player, why should it matter how I wank how I use a customization magic system?

So disallowing custom 6+ charms is meaningless, because what do I fucking give a shit about essence level? You're basically just saying I have to use canon spells exclusively as a wizard above 5th level spells, which to me is just bollocks, because I never bothered to think about what level my spells were as a wizard, so why should I have to think about what fucking essence level my charms are?

The answer is, I'm not going to bother at all. I'm still just going to wank that I can basically do whatever I want with charms up until an arbitrary point where I can't anymore, placing that limitation lower artificially is dumb because you're basically scare someone will have to use their imagination.

>>52743440
No we don't.

Brutus owns nothing but the drive.

:^)

>>52743445
You'll need to make it better than the one we already have.
Might want to take a look at it to see what your in for before throwing your hat in the ring.

How are Youko Senki and WW2 jumps coming along?
Did somebody say they were going to redo Familiar of Zero?

Is Incubator stuff from Madoka Magica suffciently advanced technology or genuine magic? Or some weird combination of the two?

>>52743463
Leave it in the last thread bozo.

>>52743445
You make a jump better then the current one and I will live-stream myself setting my house on fire.

>>52743445
Please don't. I like the jump that exists thank you. I'd rather you work on something new than replace a jump that is already serviceable and content rich with something lesser.

>>52743440
Dirge made his stuff open to remakes before then, he gave his jumps to Brutus but Brutus has said nothing revoking that permission.

>>52743489
No. Fuck you. Your word doesn't mean anything when it comes to what stays on the drive.

>>52743483
If you mean what magical girls do after getting their soul removed it's magic.
If you mean the removal process then probably not. Incubators don't have the emotional capacity to be good at magic so I don't think they are using it much..

>>52743440
What difference does it make if he wants to make the jump? He can just make it and upload it for Brutus to decide later if you want to call Brutus the jumpmaker. It seems kind of stupid that you only bring this up whenever it suits your argument but you don't credit Brutus for being the jumpmaker any other time.

>>52743425
There's no in setting justification for why defense trumps offense in Exalted. That's just how their powers work.

Really, I think Sting could get an object inside of a Solar, or even cut their limbs off which is a Crippling effect instead of damage, but they would still take 0 damage from that happening.

>>52743474
>Youko Senki
Does that have a manga, or are the images I keep seeing just from the LN?

>>52743493
So you're going to shit all over Brutus too? Why not make your own fucking drive to manage your own fucking collection of jumps then?

It'll be a lot easier than- Oh wait, it's actually harder than shitposting endlessly. That'd explain 90% of this.

>>52743487
He'll make a jump 12 pages long and say that it's better than the one that exists because it's 'concise'.

>>52743487
>>52743489
The FF10 jump is probably one of the worse ones Dirge made actually. It's good but nowhere near the level of effort of something like FF14 or Ragnarok Online. I could see someone being able to at least equal it.

Could I use the Canon Companion option in Blame to get both versions of Sanakan (full safeguard and Killy-Lite)?

>>52743514
>12 pages
>implying

Try five. And it'll be in ebonics like the Viking Saga jump.

>>52743397
Like what? There's Hell Lord and the generic magic perks. One's all but iconic and the other's pretty much mandatory for a jump about magic.

>>52743468
I thought we were supposed to make jumps that reflect the setting, not make a jump that's judged against another one. I liked the game, if it's open for a remake I don't see why I have to match some random standards that no other jumpmaker is held against.

>>52743525
How dare you bring up a Dirge jump.

Be ashamed.

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>>52743549
?

Rolled 1 (1d2)

>>52743356
1 Sting wins.

2 AST wins.

>>52743503
So the process of creating magical girls is SAT, but magical girls themselves use genuine magic? Alright, I can work with that. Thanks, anon.

>>52743525
See >>52743440 since anon wants to throw Brutus under the bus so badly.

>>52743507
It has an LN, a manga, and an anime. The art from the LN and the manga are both pretty good, so it could be either. If there's text on the page, it's from the manga, though.
The anime art is very much a divergence from either.

>>52743514
Not him, but for a lot of Dirge's jumps I feel they barely represent the setting. Like someone looked at the setting's wikipedia page and made a jump out of it. Like HPMoR.

>>52743559
Wow, that must really Sting.

>>52743547
Because we fucking have a jump and it's better than what you will make. I know, because you aren't going to fucking make it, because you're just using this as an excuse to shitpost.

>>52743565
Got a site I can read the manga on?

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>>52743352
He is actually a pretty cool guy

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>>52743461
Yeah it's ... Chaos-Warding Prana I think?

>>52743506
>There's no in setting justification for why defense trumps offense in Exalted.
Weird I remember there being one.

>Really, I think Sting could get an object inside of a Solar, or even cut their limbs off which is a Crippling effect instead of damage, but they would still take 0 damage from that happening.
Not really a counter point or anything but Unsoakable damage does happen, I mean you could Parry or Dodge Sting, via essence quackery making you perfectly block or dodge the attack in every conceivable dimension, but the damage itself might be Unsoakable. However that depends on how you categories the effects of Sting so a Jumper to Jumper basis would be better.

>>52743547
Because you want to replace it you will need to do better. Otherwise you have done nothing productive and have ruined it for everyone including yourself.
If you reflect the setting better than that is still doing better, but you should strive to be superior in all ways.

ITT: rampant autism instead of being logical and maintaining a personal drive for jumps.

None of you care about this. None of you legitimately, REMOTELY care about the subject you're arguing.

You're doing this just to be assholes.

Not even the 4chan method of just being an asshole, you're being the CUNTY kind of asshole.

>>52743569
I mean, that's just like, your opinion man. And it's also wrong, but still.

>>52743575
>I know, because you aren't going to fucking make it
It'll be made, no worries about that. I'm not going to bother listening to your standards though, not when multiple people here have already pointed out that the existing jump isn't good.

>>52743137
SO MANY COMPANIONS.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

>>52743605
The existing jump is good.
It just isn't up to his normal standards.
Which are miles above yours apparantly.

>>52743577
Botato, or just google "youjo senki manga"
http://mangapark.me/manga/youjo-senki-1/s5/c1/1

This is why jumps need to just be three pages of numbers.

Nobody reads the fluff anyway. Nobody cares about that. They want the numbers and the crunch.

>>52743605
>It'll be made, no worries about that.
I've seen this posted by antired so many times it's started to become funny.
You are a joke.

>>52743569
I feel it's less the content and more that his personal narrative overtakes the setting itself, particularly with that survey team stuff.

>>52743621
See >>52743522 and >>52743569

>>52743642
Why did you quote yourself?

>>52743185
It wasn't the "by charms" part that confused me, mostly.

>>52742982
Also, that...was SUPPOSED to be mostly a joke because I sometimes write very long combos and ramble on and on until I get a headache and forgot what I was trying to achieve. It's supposed to be total nonsense vaguely based on things I think about a lot; I seriously considered just typing "unintelligible gibbering from beyond the shores of reason".

Although the basic concept may or may not have had something to do with a wild idea I had about EX Rank Concealment, Nobody physiology, Page of Void and using Worldwalker's access to the Nevernever to-nope, nope I promised myself I wouldn't give myself combo brain freeze again by thinking too hard about this.

>>52743525
In all seriousness, as far as I know you just get the one Sanakan since she's her own person not a clone or anything

>>52743575
You're probably right, but FF10 does has some pretty big problems, like a whole load of perks that are exclusive to their background for no reason and a bloated blitzball section with exclusive blitzball perks for companions and a special snowflake mechanic for determining how you decide who can buy what.

>>52743579
Adamant Skin Technique is not a soak. "Perfect Soak" is fanspeak because it works sort of like a perfect defense. If you activate AST, it reduces the raw and final damage of an attack to 0 after all other modifiers, regardless of whether it is unsoakable.

>>52743506
From Ink Monkeys:

>The endless mountain Qaf was once great among the ranks of the Primordials. He was the primeval axis mundi in the time before Creation, when the titans marshaled themselves amidst the Faraway against the first reflexive efforts of the Unshaped to dissolve them back into the primal Chaos. He invented the principle of perfection as a defense against the hunger of the Wyld, a concept he shared freely with his Primordial peers

So yeah, defense trumps offense because perfection was originally invented as a defensive measure, not an offensive one.

>>52743642
The first post you link outright says it's good you donut.
The second is just bizzare. You can't fit setting in jokes into perk descriptions with just a wiki walk.

>>52743483
From what I remember, it's sufficiently advanced tech, because the Incubators don't have emotions and you need emotions to use magic, I think.
So you could say the Incubators have tech that looks like magic, that unlocks actual magic in humans.

>>52743647
I find it amusing that shitposter's efforts have brought us full circle to this. Thanks Brellin, it's like going back four months again.

>>52743634
Fuck you and your antifluff crusade, I care way more about fluff than crunch

>>52743645
>In all seriousness, as far as I know you just get the one Sanakan since she's her own person not a clone or anything
Damn, Diet-Killy Sanakan it is then.

>>52743461
No, because Entity dickery isn't shaping or anything of that nature so much as directing the natural world. You'd be much better off with environmental survival Charms.

Right, so, news for Nocturne. What I'm thinking of is doing something like Infernals, with backgrounds and Reasons being separate, with every background except Demifiend being able to pick a Reason if they want. Speaking of, Demifiend is a background, and in exchange for having more power upfront (and going with the canon of the Demifiend not being able to form a Reason due to being a demon), they won't be able to get the extra goodies from the Reason table. Current background plans:

>Drop-In, based off of Futomimi and Jyoji
>Average Student (name subject to change), based off of Isamu and Chiaki
>Cultist, based off of Yuko and Hikawa
>Demifiend, based off of Demifiend

And then the Reasons will be the canon Reasons. I thought about maybe having a custom Reason option, but I don't think that's really feasible.

Rolled 2 (1d8)

Gonna need another replacement

1.Undertale
2.Digital Devil Saga
3.Sailor Moon
4.Jojo
5.RWBY
6.Gargoyles
7.Peter Pan
8.Goat Simulator

No whammies, No whammies, No whammies

>>52743677
If you're going to use Dirge's jumps anyways there's like 5 Sanakans that he's spread out in his jumps. He was pretty much known for setting up duplicate companions like Lightning and Gilgamesh.

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>>52743634
But it becomes a boring slog to read if it's just one sentence of numbers and "u can do dis nao". And not only that I don't understand the asthetics of whatever I'm reading and am not tempted to write about my experiences in said setting.
If we had your way Modern Action Movie jump would be the gold standard.

>>52743683
Doesn't the demifiend fight and kill things that can destroy countless univereses with ease?

>>52743647
>Adamant Skin Technique

Hah, so it's like Killer Queen except it only works on your body and taking damage?

>>52743689
>DDS
I don't know what this is

>>52743645
Come on! I wanna stop existing while still existing!

Don't make me crib your style by using the Third to become a fully autonomous source of od/mana that does not require the world to perform magical operations, in conjunction with Nobody physiology and EX Presence Concealment (as you've said), capped off by Rumormonger in order to continually reinforce my ability to hide from reality itself by having the collective unconscious actively enforce the idea that I do not exist. And a fuckton of willpower perks, of course, in order to stop me from legitimately ceasing to exist.

>>52743683
>In exchange for more power
If this is full power demifiend, you're not going to be able to make stuff that offset the level of power you get from going that origin. Not without flat out making shit up/

Hey jumpers!

What's a piece of jumper science you really regret? Come on, we know you have one. You can't hide it.

>>52743319
>Don't actually stop.
...Phrasing?

>>52743358
Probably. I think that was my intention.

>>52743380
I actually haven't decided on that, yet.

>>52743383
I feel you, anon.

>>52743384
Nah, I keep forgetting about it. I'll add them and the intro eventually. But they're all free.

>>52743397
You know, funny thing is, I didn't even notice how similar Skyfather and Hell Lord are to Dimension Lord and Greatest Magician until after I had already written them out. But then I thought about it and decided that they're different enough to be okay. Skyfather focuses more on the whole "start your own pantheon" thing than the magical power you can throw around and Hell Lord is a smaller and more thematic dimension. And, IMO, they both have less raw power given immediately in return for some neat other things they can let you do.

Not sure what else is too similar?

>>52743420
The Black Swans were a whole thing with Doom, probably won't make it to the final version, I just forgot to remove it.

>>52743439
Here's the thing, anon: gods can actually do that anyway. I probably made it sound more impressive than it is because of the way I fluffed it, but a god of magic isn't going to be simply outdoing all other gods easily. I mean, the two most powerful sorcerers among the Asgardians are Loki, the god of Lies/Mischief/Evil/Stories, and Karnilla, who I'm not even sure is actually goddess of anything. And Enchantress isn't far behind. They got their power though studying and focusing their inborn power.

A god of magic would be naturally extremely talented at magic and have some more oomph to their spells, but they're not naturally going to eclipse everyone else and they can't accomplish something too far beyond what another god could with sufficient time and training. See Ares for a comparison; he's real gud at fighting, but he's not some invincible monster at combat.

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>>52743647
>Adamant Skin Technique is not a soak. "Perfect Soak" is fanspeak because it works sort of like a perfect defense. If you activate AST, it reduces the raw and final damage of an attack to 0 after all other modifiers, regardless of whether it is unsoakable.
Er not to my knowledge but if you play it that way okay I guess. I persoanlly thought that Unsoakable was fanspeak for 'this attacks damage can't be reduced' but I'm no rules lawyer on Exalted so... That's one of those Soak is not Reduced Damage arguments and I have enough of that from the game I play to not try it here where more experience players would ream me RAW.

>>52743696
You're telling me it isn't?

Every thread we have people flat-out admitting they don't read the jumps when they ask questions that are answered within the text.

Nobody here fucking reads.

>>52743696
Less fluff makes it easier to understand what you can do, numbers make things precise and you don't have to guess at how much things are. If the setting is interesting I don't need fluff to figure out what I want to do in there. If the setting is boring why would I want to jump it?

>>52743728
What does it matter what existing gods can do when the complaint was about the option itself being unbalanced, in that some choices gave you lots more then others?

>>52743699
To make a long story short, SMT entities are like Stand users: They can do really wild crap but they need to be in the right time, at the right place and can still be fought normally if you're a strong enough wizard who can get all up in their face. Mind you, you still have to be super buff to stand up to them in a straight fight but there's a disconnect between their battle prowess and their phenomenal cosmic power over things not directly related to battle for some reason. How much has varied a LOT over the franchise.

>>52743699
So it's a mid-powered jump?

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>>52743692
>5 Sanakans
. . .Where. . .

>>52743728
Does Marvel Magic do anything like DC's "Magic always has a price, extracted through suffering" thing?

>>52743760
He's full of shit.

>>52743751
So if I ask how strong it actually makes me, am I just going to be sitting here while people dither over it and never give an actual answer, just repeating the same shit about it being unclear? Or can someone actually say what the level of power you'd actually get from picking that option is, particularly in comparison to what the other origins are getting?

>>52743760
Between blame and sidonia? I know sidonia had a lot of crossover characters show up

>>52743769
Yeah, read Sorcerous Schooling. But it has a price because you're giving favors to cosmic entities.

>>52743244
Can we change the name of I Found It Beneath Me? Because people always forget that the context of that panel is Doom trying to shrug off his utter failure at being a god as it being godhood's fault, not his. That name would go better for a perk that lets you bounce back from failure easily, or something like that.

>>52743699
Nah, that's just hype, hype I myself bought into (which reminds me, still have to change the Demifiend drawback in DDS). In reality, the Conception is a natural process that the Great Will/YHVH has hijacked. What happens is that a universe eventually runs out of energy, and needs to be restarted or it falls into the Shadow Vortex and ceases to exist. The Great Will has been using this to try and find a way to destroy free will forever. Besides all that, the Demifiend has a full party of powerful demons backing him up, so he's not doing it alone.

>>52743724
See above.

>>52743798
If you do it right you can be the cosmic entity and then you don't own anyone shit.
Just sayin.

>>52743778
That's up to Disuanon up there, not me.

I'm sorry to say the answer is yes, there probably will be a fair bit of dithering from everyone else.

>>52743807
So how strong is it actually then if the hype is wrong?

>>52743728
Don't respond to shitposters. And I'm pretty sure Skyfather and Hell Lord are higher powered. Skyfather certainly beats the shit out of Greatest Magician. Greatest Magician starts you at City-level, whereas Skyfather is probably Solar System level at least, since it's more expensive than Elder God Hybrid. Unless that was based more on the other features of the perk.

Not that it matters, being separate jumps and all. Just wantd to point that out.

>>52743735
Alternate theory: The people who do read the fluff and enjoy it and understand the text don't see the point of posting because.... what the hell would they say? "Oh, I read your jump and understood everything perfectly and enjoyed the fluff!"?

>>52743760
There's 3 in Blame alone, I haven't bothered with Sidonia but I'm guessing that if they show up in Sidonia it's in the scenario. I would have thought Biomega myself but I don't remember anyone showing up in Biomega.

>>52743244
This looks awesome!

Just wanted to point out that even though Hell Lord is similar to the Dimension Lord perk from DC Occult, they're different in a good way! Dimension Lord is obviously more suited for people who want to run civilizations in their dimension or use it to summon armies, while the immortality from Hell Lord is great for defence!

Thanks for doing such an awesome job. So many good things to choose from, it'll be a tough decision.

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>>52743689
Digital Devil Saga- OOC: No fucking idea what I'm doing.
0/1200
Rolled for 25
Drop-in
Free Familiar Face
Discount Music Soothed the savage Demon
Free Stylish Outfit
Mantra Rank 9(Ragnarok)

Silent Protagonist+300


Seriously need that replacement for my rolls.

>>52743745
I think his point is that it IS balanced. Being a god of magic doesn't seem to let you autowin against other magic users, let alone win in general.

>>52743613
That nobody's ever gonna purchase or care about, yaaaaaay.

Seriously fuck off.

>>52743866
How about Tropico?

>>52743866
Chibi-Robo.

>>52743866
Practical Guide to Evil
Nanoha
Billy and Mandy

Gave three in case you've already hit one

>>52743880
Again, why do other magic users matter? All I am talking about is comparing one taker of this perk against another. Look at what it describes a God of thunder getting vs a God of magic getting? Do those really seem equal to you?

>>52743866
Try Mario.
Or Paper Mario if you haven't already been.
Or the regular RPG.
Doesn't matter which.

>>52743806
Not Jack, but what would you suggest instead? Who deserves to rule? What men hath wrought?

>>52743807
Wasn't he technically looking for order, not necessarily the end of free will? Seemed pretty happy about the WORLD OF STR his angels were pushing

>>52743866
Clustertruck Gauntlet

I dare you, as it's maker.

>>52743881
If you split up your hate between SoAnon, Dirge, Red, and now WoWanon, you're just going to achieve even less than before anon. Just stick to SoAnon and Dirge, you already had your hands full juggling them.

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>>52743726
I made the Hamhams too warrior like. I fear they may grow bored and start conflict for the fun of it. At least they still recognize me as their unquestioned leader.

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>>52743887
Already been

>>52743890
The fuck is that? And we have a jump of whatever that is?

>>52743891
I'll take Practical Guide to Evil, thank you

>>52743895
>>52743903
Thanks for the suggestions

>>52743895
I'll take Mario as my next replacement, right now.


1.Undertale
2.Practical Guide to Evil
3.Sailor Moon
4.Jojo
5.RWBY
6.Gargoyles
7.Peter Pan
8.Goat Simulator

>>52743881
It's not even him, anon. You're salting at nobody.

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Also the current Bonus Scenarios on the table! Elder Dragon Highlander & Nine Tails Sage (Kitsune Only). If anyone wants me to elaborate please ask.

>>52743613
Would you mind posting the full WiP?

>>52743920
Oh jesus christ.

>>52743920
Don't crash the universe too many times.

>>52743778
Other backgrounds have you as a normal human being, if one that can eventually learn magic, where as Demifiend gives you access to a demon's naturally superior capabilities along with a human's growth rate. At the moment, I'm replaying the game so I can get all the details right, so I can't tell you exactly how buff you will be, but the long and short of it is that with Magatamas you'll be able to gain natural defenses against elemental and physical attacks, to the point of outright nullification for some, as well as access to far more powerful magic/attacks in general.

>>52743827
See above.

>>52743900
For now He's exploring all the possible ways he can gain control. All the Reason endings are just Him looking at different options and avenues from which He can attain victory.

>>52743930
Well you've got me interested since EDH is the only way I even bother playing magic anymore.
Feel free to elaborate if you want.
Or you could keep it a surprise till it's ready. It's up to you.

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>>52743881
some of his companions look interesting to me.

So I suppose you'd be wrong.

>>52743745
... Because you're the same as they are? You could learn the stuff you get from being a god of magic anyway, but you can't just learn to embody fire.

>>52743769
It does. Technically. But holy shit it's way more vague and way less consistent than DC's portrayal of it. So I'm not going to constantly shove it in everyone's face like in DC Occult, because it's not clear snd it's not thematic.

Also, like >>52743798 said, the far more common price is owing some cosmic dipshit a favor.

>>52743830
I'm not sure the dude's a shitposter. I see his point, I just don't share his opinion.

Though yeah, the price is more based on the other effects of the perk and the fact that in some nebulous "some day future you might grow into your big boy shoes and stand up to Odin. But it starts you much lower than that, essentially letting you just focus your lifeforce to make things happen on a very localized scale without the magical training that world normally require. I should make that more clear.

>>52743862
D'aww, thanks anon.

>>52743880
Exactly.

>>52743894
See above. A god of thunder will be more than just thunder. They'll be the raging storm qs much as a person. A living facet of creation. Their shouts would shatter stone and they could make it rain fire. They can feel weather in their bones and call it to them like an eager pet.

A god of magic could do that, to a lesser extent because it's broad, but they could also learn to do do without being a god of magic. A god of thunder, with enough training, could do things comparable to a god of magic and ALSO be the god of thunder.

>>52743847
Dirge has a problem with going beyond just fluff and into rambling. Look at this perk, for example:

>Tools for the Duty 400
>Even if you’re a good pugilist, you can still benefit from having the proper tools available on your journey. But being a Guardian isn’t like being a Summoner, you won’t necessarily find people on the Pilgrimage willing to help you out with items and whatnot. The expectation is that you’ll lay down your life for the Summoner after all, why should people give you anything if you’re not expected to return alive in the first place?
>It’s a good thing that you know how to prepare your own tools and equipment, because not having to depend on others will make the longer legs of the Pilgrimage much more tolerable. Merchants and tradesmen aren’t everywhere
after all…

The entire first paragraph isn't related to anything. Yes, tools help people accomplish things, and lacking a way to get tools is the reason for which I would want to be able to make tools of my own. People don't give away things to people who are on suicide missions and sometimes you can't find merchants, which is another reason to want to make your own goods.

Like, yes, I don't need to have it explained to me why people would want to create tools or weapons. I can figure that part out on my own, thank you. None of this tells me anything about the setting that I didn't learn from reading the intro and the backgrounds. The important part of those two paragraphs is "It's a good thing you know how to prepare your own tools and equipment." Everything else is just words for the sake of having more words in the jump.

>>52743244
Hmm... Not sure if I Found it Beneath Me is on par with the other 1000 CPers. Maybe with some second-best to Doom-tier keikaku'ing?

>>52743934
Oh god uh.

Let me cut out the horribly skeletal parts and sure. I'd be further along but I took a few days break due to new-job-soreness.

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Jumpers! Does you have to deal with harem romcom shenanigans or just relationship shenanigans in general?

>>52743968
So fi they can do all this, put it in the goddamn thing because right now god of thunder looks piss poor next to god of magic. And make it clearer that the broader it is, the weaker it is, otherwise there's no reason to go for something more specific. Yeah a God of Thunder could eventually do a God of Magics stuff, but the God of Magic could do it in reverse and easier too, going by the info here.

>>52743972
So, you literally just want to rip out everything that isn't 'u ca nao do dis'?

>>52743972
Dirge isn't known for fluff to begin with, so I'm not sure what bringing him up as an example does except to further emphasize how bad he is at jumpmaking.

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>>52743920
Goat Simulator- I hate whoever suggested this "Bark!" DAMN IT AMMY
0/1000
Rolled for Free Pick, rolled again for Goat-Ville
Angel Goat
Goatborn


Easiest build ever.


1.Undertale
2.Practical Guide to Evil
3.Sailor Moon
4.Jojo
5.RWBY
6.Gargoyles
7.Peter Pan
8.Mario

>>52744042
But what did you do?

>>52743972
What jump is this, we'll push to delete it from the drive or put it up for replacement.

>>52744042
>justice in sailor moon

>>52743894
Yeah, it's okay. God's are already waaay better than mortals at magic, so being ridiculously better as a god of magic seems fine, since you are compounding bonuses from an expensive origin and a perk, whereas being a God of Storms doesn't directly synergize with your physiology as a God.

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>>52744042
>Sailor Moon

>>52744025
You don't have to reduce it that far. You can include feats. You can include setting information. You can include references to characters that inspired the perk.

But a strength perk doesn't need a paragraph of "Hey, sometimes you need to lift heavy things. And also having bigger muscles makes it hurt more when you swing a weapon at someone." in front of it.

>>52744040
>Dirge isn't known for fluff to begin with, so I'm not sure what bringing him up as an example does except to further emphasize how bad he is at jumpmaking.
Have we just gotten to the point where you will literally spout lies and bullshit in the hopes of getting people who don't actually know dirge to believe it?

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>>52744042
FUCK ME SIDEWAYS!
It's just a conga-line of humiliation for Tiger today.

>>52744057
He conquered all the goats. Fucked if I know. It's a universe with little information, because it's just a physics game.

>>52744065
Stalwart Tiger actually.

>>52744069
GO AWAY EBON DRAGON!

>>52744082
Anon he's been doing it for months.
Literally months. Have you been under a rock?

>>52744025
I'd rewrite the perk as
Tool for the Duty 400
You can prepare tools and equipment yourself just like how guardians can in Spira.
It's simple and effective.

>>52743806
Good point. I was kinda just scrounging for a name at the time. Any suggestions for a replacement name?

>>52743920
>>52743940
AHAHAHAHAHAGSPSBS

>>52743974
Maybe so.

>>52744020
Say pretty please, sunshine.

No, but really, that's the type of thing I'll spell out explicitly in the notes. That's like half the reason I post in thread, so I can find out what needs clarification.

>>52743954
Here you go. Just know that it isn't for the faint of heart.

Elder Dragon Highlander

For ten years you've toiled and grown in this world and now you feel something. A Gathering, it's the best way to explain the sensation, and with the proper step you are allowed into a timeless place. The event that transpire here, in the Time Rifts, won't effect your results from Kamigawa but now you stand before a being whose dormant spark also has felt the Gathering. This massive dragon, an Elder Dragon, turns towards you and you both feel the powers you've gathered over the years start fadeing. Doing battle with this dragon will take ages, as even though he isn't the beast he'll be 24, 000 years from the date of his entry into the Time Rift he is still a formidable foe. Who is the foe you do battle with in this world where your powers are failing both of you? This is a past shade of Nicol Bolas, Elder Dragon and legendary figure. Victory will grant you 600 CP to spend on perks in this Jump, defeat will merely take you back to Kamigawa as if the battle never happened wiping away all damages done by the Elder Dragon.

>>52744093
Absolutely disgusting. Needs more meat.

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>>52744087
MAKE ME, FOOLISH WARRIOR!

>>52744074
>You don't have to reduce it that far. You can include feats. You can include setting information. You can include references to characters that inspired the perk.
How about you fuck off and stop posting? You aren't the arbiter of what is and is not appropriate for writing perk text.

>>52744100
>Good point. I was kinda just scrounging for a name at the time. Any suggestions for a replacement name?
No, sadly. I mean, you could just swap it with Who Deserves To Rule, I guess.

>>52743972
Sure, but I enjoy the fluff as is. Sure, I don't need it in order to understand what the perk does, and sure, it could technically be cut. But you know what? I actually enjoy that. It makes reading through it easier, I'd be bored to tears if I had to read something as boring as "You can make stuff" for every single perk.

More relevantly to my point though: I'm never going to actually mention I enjoy it because again, what's the use of that? It's a jump. It's well done. I'll tell him it's well done when he posts it, but why the hell would I ever bring it up again? I'm not randomly going to go, "So hey guys, you know [Insert Name Here]'s jumps? They're fun and well written!", because that's just a completely useless post when there's no context.The people complaining about it seem like they're in the majority because to them there is a point in going, "Hey you know [Insert Jump Here]? It's boring/overfluffed/overpowered/underpowered/needs to be remade." so they say it a lot, but if a jump's well done, then... it's well done, and unless I'm building for it, there's no need to mention it because it's already good.

>>52744089
They're being outraged to be outraged dude, just leave'em be.

>>52744004
Nope because my jumper has pretty good communication skills. Despite how Ten's relationship with most of his companions were generally romantic in nature, Ten and I...haven't really hit it off romantically? It's weird.

Main Chain Nika has perks to deal with that stuff so there's like no fighting whatsoever, and Writer!Nika has some weird tension going on with Sage of the Forest and Cu, but overall it's peaceful. Cu doesn't really mind sharing my jumper either, but Sage and Nika are kinda...well, it's complicated between them. Nika doesn't really want to confess to Sage yet because they're unsure if he'd say yes or not.

So overall, no.

>>52744093
>It's simple and effective.
It's also fucking boring and generic. If that's what you think good perk text looks like, you might like mib's old jumps.

>>52744082
Fluff is different from having words for the sake of having more words in the jump, which is literally all he's known for, putting in words into jumps for no good reason. Dirge is known for pointlessly inflating word counts and putting in several hundred pages of filler that wasn't necessary in the first place. >>52743972 points out a good example of it already.

If you want actual fluff look at Red, or Heavens, Digger. They actually write fluff, not just throwing words out in verbal diarrhea.

>>52743968
So Elder God Physiology is way better for sheer power? And is godly lifeforce a soul? Or is it more like Chi?

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>>52744087

>>52744103
I dunno man. Seems a little weak since losing is just a rewind
Especially for that many points maybe putting some consequences for failure in there would be a good idea even if they aren't death.

>>52744141
To be fair, he's also known for having really good fleshed out scenarios.

>>52744074
I don't even disagree with you, but when your complaint is based on not liking a style of writing it just comes off as petulant when there's stuff that's flawed in the opposite direction on the drive like Warcraft 3 and Berserk. Whether or not the jumps you want to replce can be replaced or not, your personal preferences aren't shared by everyone.

>>52744118
Eh, I'd prefer to keep that because it's drawn directly from that scene of Doom laughing off the amped Purple Man to prove a point.

>>52744132
The whole point is to reduce the amount of unnecessary filler. If a perk can be summed up in a sentence, it should only have that sentence. Why does it matter if it's boring or generic if making a build only takes maybe ten minutes anyways? I'll be bored for maybe a fraction of a minute reading it and move on.

>>52744141
It's not like he wants to inflate the word count.
He's asked for people to tell him where to trim it down before.
If it bothered you why didn't you ever give him a heads up of what you think could have been changed?
It's not like he would have ignored you.

>>52744150
>Elder God Physiology is way better for raw power?
Definitely.

>And is godly lifeforce a soul? Or is it more like Chi?
Eh, probably more like Chi? Mortals can be imbued with it to become gods and gods can be stripped of it to become mortal.

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>>52744159
Yeah you're right I'll could remove the whole damages repaired thing and just pull you out at the moment before death. Then you'd have a ton of blue magic mind traps. I could also go the route of no matter what Bolas will remember you if ever you two cross paths again as a clause. How does that sound?

>>52744156
Hey NikaMoth, for You Killed Me, can I have it as them being summoned by the enemy? Because I've only killed villains in the other Fire Emblem jumps (like Validar or Nergal), so it makes sense for them to be summoned by the villains, right?

>>52744093
That's not even simple it's negative amounts of information.
It requires extra effort to even begin figuring out what it does.
It's hardly effective at doing anything.

>>52744213
To be honest, if it really does make you Thor's equal, that 600 seems better then almost anything else in the jump right now. Thor's destroyed things bigger then stars in the past. How the fuck does Ghost Rider match up to that?

>>52744163
I'm not sure where you're getting that from but it isn't true either. All of his scenarios suffer from the same problem that >>52743972 brought up. He turns something that could have been summarized in one paragraph into hundreds of pages that are just walls of text. You can literally go through a scenario and summarize it as "Kill this guy to get a reward and maybe some extra CP"

Literally, his scenarios embody how bad he is with throwing in words for the sake of a word count. Cats and Digger are much better at scenario writing and fleshing out scenarios properly than he is.

>>52744217
That sounds awful. A failure condition that affects other jumps and is indeed only an effect in other jumps is just bad.

Just don't make it rewind. Why does it need to rewind?

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Can Oathkeeper from Kingdom Hearts be applied to yourself?

>>52744237
Well then you'd die, but okay.

>>52744183
You're welcome to your opinion, but you gotta acknowledge that literally everyone else hates what you want.

So what perks would help me deal with Magic God Othinus in Railgun and Index? Considering unlike the other Magic Gods, with Gungnir she has 100% possibility on her side.

>>52744217
Might be a good idea.
I also like the idea of him remembering me even if I win. Although since he's just a time echo that might be odd from his perspective to remember something that never actually happened to him.

>>52744237
How does it affect other jumps?

>>52744222
My dude, Thor's only a star-buster at max wank. Usually he "merely" is a threat to planets. Also, Ghost Rider can hit quite a bit above his weight class, like, he's got some serious force multipliers.

>>52744256
Yes, god forbid a scenario have a potential threat in it. Especially when it offers 600cp.

>>52744166
I wasn't even calling for it to be replaced. I'd prefer if Dirge would come back to /tg/ and post his jumps so that he could get some real criticism. And, speaking as someone who doesn't know any of the settings he wrote for except FF, there are problems beyond just his writing being unnecessarily overwrought. FF10 has most of its perks exclusive to their backgrounds for no reason. FF13 doesn't offer a defense against becoming L'Cie other than the perk that makes you L'Cie, which only says that your focus will be acceptable to you but says nothing about providing immunity to Crystal Stasis or turning into a Cieth. Lightning Returns has problems with offering a ton of OC powers that are vaguely based on the setting while skipping over canon powers the backgrounds should have.

>>52744228
I am both of the people you just quoted, and I disagree. The scenarios spend almost all their wordcount telling you what happens in the scenario.

>>52744194
When the problem is the entire jump, we should have rejected the jump completely. Any jump that has the bogus narrative he tries to force into it would have been removed. If he wants to force a narrative that doesn't belong to jumpchain he should go elsewhere. Every option with more than a paragraph, delete and rewrite. If >>52743972
is any indication, I'm pretty sure people have told him that before, which is a good sign that he doesn't listen to people.

>>52744218
The Emblian Empire doesn't have summoners. That's why they twist the arms of the heroes in their contracts to fight for them in canon. Unless you take the drawback where past foes come back, as they do have actual summoners in that drawback.

So no, you're going to have to deal with them. It's entire possible to summon villains, as Reinhardt can most certainly be summoned by the heroes despite being a boss in the game he was in.

>>52744228
Not him, but I personally like to feel like I'm reading a story rather than looking at some objectives sometimes. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy shorter scenarios too like the Zendikar jump's. Way I see it, a little variety never hurt anyone, they're solidly put together and your personal preferences don't justify rewriting an entire jump.

>>52744228
>>52744279
>>52744282
You guys should both go to SB and have fun with PMs.

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>>52743934
>>52743992
Okay, here you go anon.

Keep in mind it's still horribly WIP because I took a break. I cut out the worst of the skeletal parts but I'm worried my 2-AM-self left behind shit I missed.

>>52744222
Zarathos fully unleashed is roughly in the same tier as Thor. And the fact that your strength scales with evil means you could become much stronger. Everything else seems about as useful. Being Strange-tier is a 600 cp perk . This jump is actually kind of high-powered if you look at it.

>>52744293
Oh boy. Well, that'll be an issue. Thanks, NikaMoth.

>>52744279
>FF10 has most of its perks exclusive to their backgrounds for no reason
Please don't bring this up again, I'm guessing you don't know how that was tied to why he left in the first place, in addition to this
>post his jumps so that he could get some real criticism

>>52744263
Is Bolas present in this jump? Is him remembering you going to have any effect in this same jump? If not, it's effecting other jumps or has no actual effect. Either way it's bad.

>>52744166
Here's the thing; his not liking the writing style is the basis for the idea that Dirge's jumps are bad and thus should be replaced, because his argument is that his jumps would be better liked by some people than Dirges, which completely ignores that people actually like what currently exists and wouldn't actually prefer something lacking fluff, scenarios, explanations, context, or even descriptive language.

This guy would be a shit jump maker if they weren't just a shitposter and actually bothered to make anything.

>>52744282
>when the problem is
>we should have

You seem to have trouble grasping the simple fact not everyone agrees with you that there IS a problem with the entire jump significant enough to warrant a replacement.

>>52744279
I wish he would come back too. You should shoot some of these critiques at him if you get the chance. I bet he'd at least consider it.
Although if I remember right the reason FF10 has class locked perks is because it was an update and he was trying to keep builds from getting nuked. I don't think it was the best idea, but it wasn't for no reason.

>>52744282
He wanted critique so badly that he made an SB account to get more.
He absolutely would have listened if it was constructive critique.

>>52744222
Yeah, I've been kinda worried about that, compounded by the fact that I'm not exactly an expert on Ghost Rider stuff. I was relying mainly on the fact that it's a fully unbound, true Spirit of Vengeance alongside the hax that a Ghost Rider is capable of. Penance Stare can seriously fuck just about anything with eyes.

Though I am completely open to suggestions.

>>52744302
Scenarios are meant to be objectives, not stories. Leave the storywriting to the jumpers. When you force a story on the jumper it dies warrant rewriting or at least removing the jump. There is already a narrative in jumpchain that Quicksilver set up, we don't need any more than that.

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>>52744263
>I also like the idea of him remembering me even if I win.
I'll add that to the list of maybe's pile but leaning towards no right now.

>Although since he's just a time echo that might be odd from his perspective to remember something that never actually happened to him.
He has fought Time Wizards before and had a similar thing happen then, where he was remember fights from time loops.

>>52744278
Eh, true enough.

>>52744326
Good points...

>>52744327
This, that's exactly what I was trying to say but clearer.

>>52744356
>quicksilver

Who the fuck cares what that loser set up?

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>>52744042
Sailor Moon- STOP DANCING AMMY! YOU TOO YUUKI! "I don't wanna!" ...."You're gonna make me suffer this too aren't you?" Damn right I am Raven! If I have to suffer so do you!
0/2000
Drop In
Free Subplot Sense
Free A Future Friend In Need
Discount Ahahaha, Nope!
Discount Starseed Awakening
The Power of Bonds
Fellow Senshi(Max)- *Ammy, Ilya, Yuuki, Raven, Zelda at minimum, others can be figured out later*
Silver Millenium Technology

Moon Mentor+300- "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!" Stop. Laughing. Raven. "HAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
Olde Foe+300
Unlucky Target+200- Oh for fuck sake
Reincarnated+200- Wait wha-


You fuckers can't force me to be a magical girl damn it!


Also I need another replacement

>>52744336
Well according to >>52744325 there's some story behind it, but I fail to see how offering a perk to other backgrounds breaks a build. If the perk is new, then it could never break a build. If it's old, then either I'm the right background for it (build is fine) or not (build broken).

>>52744356
>scenarios are meant to be objectives
Given how they started no that's not the case.
It's actually the opposite. Having a scenario just be do the thing get the stuff is doing it poorly.

That's why they are optional now, because people have their own stories they may prefer and would rather forgo getting hand held to live their own path.

We definitely need more jumps with loads of fluff and stories to get rid of the shopping list mentality.

>>52744356
>Scenarios shouldn't have a narrative
>Scenarios having a narrative is a problem that warrants jumps being removed from the drive
I guess that means all of Babylon's jumps should be removed too?

>>52744356
>scenarios are meant to be objectives, not stories

Says you and which army? Seriously, you keep saying this I don't even necessarily disagree with but you're utterly shameless in flaunting the idea your personal preferences should take precedence over everyone else's. If you cared to extend that train of thought to its' logical conclusion you'd be reminded a lot of Jumpchain's evolution has had no truck with what it was meant to be at the start, and everyone has had a say up til now in how it keeps changing. Not

>>52744386
Hamtaro

>>52744388
Well I didn't say I understood it myself. There's also a good chance I'm remembering it wrong, but he did have a reason.

>>52744386
Devil Survivor 2.

>>52744309
Bloated.

>>52744336
He made a SB account because Brellin literally brought up the same thing that this >>52744279 brought up, but at the time everybody just looked at the jump and waved it along because it was so long and it was an update to an existing jump.

And the thing is we're not going to get the next update anyways since we're so autistic we'll shit on anything not on our drive

>>52744404
I think I dislike you Mothra. But accepted

>>52744310
>Being Strange-tier is a 600 cp perk . This jump is actually kind of high-powered if you look at it.
It is high powered, yeah. But that perk doesn't make you straight-up Strange-tier. It's a talent booster along with some other goodies. And Classic "upset the balance of power so much that the fucking Living Tribunal showed up" Strange was only so powerful because he was wielding a plethora of god-tier artifacts and had the cooperation of all the big-name mystical and cosmic entities out there powering him.

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HEY GUYS. What did you do in R.W.B.Y.? Who did you waifu? Really, anything.

please

>>52744416
Didn't he leave because we were shitting on him anyway?

>>52744349
It seems balanced with everything in it's price range. Spirit of Vengeance might be weak, though I'm pretty sure the unbound version is cosmic tier.

>>52744416
We totes could have gotten them all if someone would have bothered to ask nicely instead of bitching at ASA nonstop to try and manipulate Dirge into posting them here.
Seriously what was that nigger thinking?

>>52744439
He left for a lot of reasons. Trying to guess at all of them is a pointless effort unless you can read minds in the past.
He was definitely tired of all the shitposting though that's for sure.

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>>52744438
Justice played the otherwise missing role of Gaston for a joke, which means he 'chased' after Worst Girl while pretending to be incredibly racist towards Faunus.

Tiger hasn't been yet, but I have....plans for Tiger should he roll RWBY.

>>52744453
He wanted to fuck with us. So to ruin our chance of anything good happening, he decided to shit in our cereal and make sure things took this conclusion.

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>>52744467
What horrors have you wrought with the power of Bio-kinesis /jc/?

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>>52744241
Yes

>>52744309
>51 pages
>it hasn't even finished the class section yet
Fucking delicious

>>52744438
Not sure yet, all I know is I'm not letting Penny or Pyrrha die.

>>52744435
Uh, last time you said it gave you Strange-level talent, a rep boost, training, and the boost in a give dimension. What else are you missing to be classic strange?

>>52744388
>there's some story behind it
When the jump first came out, nobody bothered to look at it. It slipped over to SB because people loved to crosspost new jumps over, and Brellin let loose on it because Brellin and somebody else were FFX experts and they already had exploits that relied on some things from FF X-2. Dirge took it really fucking seriously since I guess that was the only feedback he got and since Brellin never minces words, Dirge taking it seriously meant he blew up. The IRC tried to get him to calm down, he gave them a fuck off, and everybody took it as Dirge taking SB's opinion higher than the IRC's. Things went south from there.

True to Dirge fashion it ended with Dirge leaving for SB because SB had given him more feedback than anyone here, and that's apparently why the update to FF13 used the CC thing, because that was there to test out how it would work when reapplied back to FFX on the second update. Brellin also shit on how ineffectual the scenario was, so I'm guessing the second update is going to change that too.

>>52744438
I TOOK OVER THE WORLD, OF COURSE! Also, I started shipping the cast behind the scenes while everyone was trying to overthrow me, manipulating events in order to pair people up. I also turned RWBY and JNPR into magical girls and boys, because I thought it was funny.

>>52744498
>Yes
Are you sure, anon?

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>>52744438
Haven't watched it, any good waifus?

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>>52744438
I ruined all of Cinder's plans and waifued ECERYONE, also nabbed the Grimm semblance just to see what creatures I could make with it.

>>52744453
He was a shitposter, however you look at it. Either he genuinely wanted to get rid of Dirge. Or he was so socially inept, afraid of human interaction and miserably pessimistic he could genuinely think of no better way to motivate someone than negative reinforcement with cyberbullying.

The phrase gets thrown around a lot, but I sincerely wish that the latter was true enough that he killed himself out of self-loathing when his childishness completely backfired.

>>52744439
We hardly shat on him back before the Brellin FFX fiasco. I mean there was only one guy who kept telling him to leave after he came back and maybe one other guy who got pissed because he wasn't allowed to see Dirge's WIP drive, but Dirge didn't become public target until he left to SB.

>>52744453
Nobody cares enough to make a SB account just to ask him in the first place.

>>52744309
...how does the Vampyr option for Undead work? Can you just choose it over being a normal undead or what?

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>>52744309
Excellent. It'll be good to see it done.

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>>52744517
Thor is Best Girl, Belle/Beauty is Worst Girl.
Achilles is pretty great, but has her heart set on Joan of Arc
Some people really like Cinderella's villainous attitude and look, same with her minion Aladdin
Little Red Riding Hood isn't bad, though excitable, her sister Goldilocks is pretty fun.
Snow White is stuck up, but you might like that. Pinocchio is just adorable.

>>52744521
>EVERYONE

>>52744042
Pretty boring senpai.

>>52744309
>For an additional 100 CP, a mysterious letter finds it’s way to your hands - unmarked but for a wax stamp of a two-headed eagle, and a single name written in ink: Sarth. (Please go to the Quest Journal, page 25...)
>For an additional 100 CP, Juramir will find a raven wearing a pendant, and a mysterious crest. The raven caws one thing: “Rillia...” (Please go to the Quest Journal, Page ??...)

>Quest Journal
>QUEST JOURNAL

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>>52744512
Yes

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>>52744517
>Any good waifus
Quite a few, yeah.

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>>52744438
Well the first thing I did was fight my way out of the #%!@ ocean, across a thousand miles of Grimm, because that location roll SUCKS.

>>52744541
Anyone who does have an SB account would just not give a shit about it being posted here, and would just use it anyway.

>>52744438
I think the RWBY jump needs an update. At the very least, it needs enough semblances for there to be no duplicates between you and 8 companions.

>>52744548
Yes. I'll make sure to phrase that option better. Sorry about that.

>>52744560
...
. . .

FUCK

>>52744498
>>52744549
here's hoping I make faster progress in the next few days.

>>52744561
Is that you, Spyro? Is it possible to use Oathkeeping and Absent Silhouette on the same weapon?

>>52744541
People already have accounts. Anyone could have asked one of them to middle man shit. It was a zero effort thing.
There was absolutely no need to bother trying anything else.

>>52744309
Shit. I asked you to post it because I remember you mentioning a few times that you didn't receive much critique for most of it, and so I had wanted to look through it all and give you some, but I'm getting wrapped up in planning my build.

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>>52744550
Wicked Witch of the West is looks pretty good, too.

>>52744282
Man, you must hate Yoro's Jumps then.

>>52744309
The whole companion permadeath seems like a bad idea. If only because it makes Felsoul Pawn literally priceless for being chainbreaking. Probably bump it up to 400 cp, though I doubt people will take it even then. Otherwise looks neat.

>>52744597
It's quite alright man, this thing's gonna need like... several different review runs before it's properly done.

>>52744241
It looks like it's a general power that can be used on everyone, and it does not specifically state that it doesn't work on you so I would say yes.

>>52744615
... Note to self: Reword that option. I was meaning for it to be up to Jumper choice if the Felsoul'd Companion had permadeath or not.

>>52744438
Haven't been there yet but some of my plans include.

>Save Penny and give her some upgrades.
>Save Pyrrha and turn her into a Spartan.
>Troll Ozpin and ruin his plans.
>Set up a secret alliance with Atlas/Ironwood.
>Infect all the humans with a Faunus virus.
>Steal Cinder from Salem.

>>52744600
She is an edgelord who wants to wipe out humanity because she's an edgelord.

If she just wanted to wipe out the filthy faunus, like a normal person, she'd be okay.

>>52744600
I was going with the characters who would be your 'peers' with the way the jump is set up. Otherwise I would have mentioned The Good Witch of the North. And Belle's mom, not my type looks wise but she's fun.

I also don't know who Team Coffee is supposed to be.

>>52744452
Yeah, I'm not sure yet. I'll deal with that later on.

>>52744502
Off the top of my head, the important stuff that made Strange super buff at his peak would be his position as the actual Sorcerer Supreme, the cooperation of all the big names in the magical world (the Octessence, the Vishanti, the Faltine, etc.), a whole host of extremely powerful magical artifacts (the Eye and Orb of Agomotto, the Wand of Watoomb, the Wings of Needless Sorrow, the Darkhold and Book of the Vishanti, etc.), and the knowledge of how to cheat like a motherfucker. But to pull off the really big stuff, the most important thing is to have the big guys be willing to lend you a ton of power. If you can curry favor with the powerful mystical beings and forces and have the ability to actually channel the power effectively, then you can do some scary stuff.

But yeah, that's what you need to do powerful magic in Marvel: tons of knowledge and the cooperation of higher powers.

>>52744642
That sounds more like her supposed creator, who was an asshole that was jealous of his brother and so tried to destroy everything he created. Salem could just be following orders, we don't really know that much about her yet.

>>52744618
Any idea on how many Companions left to implement? I make it a point to take every free Companion I get and find a place for them within my Story/Chain.

Here's the Rewrite!

Elder Dragon Highlander

For ten years you've toiled and grown in this world and now you feel something. A Gathering, it's the best way to explain the sensation, and with the proper step you are allowed into a timeless place. The event that transpire here, in the Time Rifts, won't affect your results from Kamigawa but now you stand before a being whose dormant spark also has felt the Gathering.

This massive dragon, an Elder Dragon to be exact, turns towards you and you both feel the powers you've gathered over the years start fading, it’ll only be a matter of time before you power wan to the point where you’ll be fighting with only your bodies. Doing battle with this dragon will take ages, as even though he isn't the beast he'll be 24, 000 years from the date of his entry into the Time Rift he is still a formidable foe who has survived the wars of dragons.

Who is the foe you do battle with in this world where your powers are failing both of you? This is a past shade of Nicol Bolas, Elder Dragon and legendary figure.

Victory will grant you 600 CP to spend on perks in this Jump, defeat comes in two flavors either you are forced to flee out of the Time Rift, or you were slain by the Elder Dragon. If slain you chain ends, and even surviving the fight may end with dozens of memories lost to the Touch of Bolas or mental traps prepared that only the Elder Dragon himself will be able to sense and trigger. The risk is myriad.l

How is it?

Captcha that is a toy truck not a vehicle!

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>>52744590
I-I don't know who you're talking about. I'm just a friendly anon offering sagely advice.

Yes to your Oathkeeper/Absent Silhouette question

>>52744595
See >>52744582. The people that could be middle men don't have a reason to give a shit.

I can't imagine him coming back to /tg/ anyways, not with people trying this hard to turn him into the next big shitposter like DDanon. If the price is that we can't use a couple jumps without people shitting on us I think people would get used to that sooner than trying to get a jumpmaker back. In a way it's fucking hilarious.

where can I get a genetic archive of earths animals or something like it?

>>52744609
Yoro's problem with unnecessary wordiness is nowhere close to Dirge's, and whereas Dirge's problem makes every one of his jumps poor, Yoro has jumps where it works well.

>>52744438
I spent my time figuring out what the hell Dust is and how it works. Seriously, why doesn't it work in space? It's weird. By the end of it I had some pretty good knowledge of distilled geomantic energy, though, kind of made a parallel to Materia in the process. I didn't waifu anyone, though I did ship a bunch of people. Just...Ren, Nora is clearly in love with you. "Not 'together' together" is just her being too shy to say it. Jaune, same with you and Pyrrha. Ruby, your scythe does not love you like you love it. Weiss, I will punch your dad to death if it gets you to stop moping, I can do that for you. Blake, your ears gross me out. Nothing to do with relationships, I just had to say it. I'll help with Adam, though.

>>52744714
Okay, anon, I'm onto you. I hope he's doing alright.

Thanks, mate.

>>52744681
Any races & classes yet to be written in there, for one. On top of that there's plans for rewriting the turtle / Shen-Zin Su diet edition, there's going to be an Ancient with an option to be either an Ancient of War or Ancient of Lore, plus a member of each of the dragonflights and elemental types.

I think I've got the Canon Companion options properly tiered down, but I'm gonna need to tinker on pricing for things above Dragon Aspects, Wild Gods, and that kind of thing.

Races left to represent: High Elf, Orc, Tauren, Blood elf, Mok’nathal, Hozen, Goblin, Cenarian, Harpy, Furbolg, Quilboar, Naga, Gnoll, Kobold, Saurok, Mogu, Gorloc, Wolvar, Tuskarr, Vrykul, Broken, Arakkoa, Ethereal, Sporeling, Wildkin, Nerubian, Qiraji, Mantid, Nightborne, spider elf

Classes left to represent: Death knight, Demon Hunter, Druid, Hunter, Monk, Priest

>>52744754
Futurama has that doesn't it

>>52744721
ASA used to play middleman, before that shitposter admitted to attacking him in order to attract Dirge. Not actually sure if he knows about the subsequent shitstorms, but nowadays his account over there seems to exist mostly to build for Dirge's jumps and critique them.

And like you said, I can't even blame him.

>>52744754
Futurama. See if the Encyclopod will be willing to share its DNA archives with you. It has the genetics of everything that's ever gone extinct preserved in its biosphere. Given how many ecological catastrophes have taken place in Futurama's timeline, that would include most things alive today and everything extinct. Also lots of alien DNA. And if you want to make sure of it, just hop in the Professor's forwards-only time machine by a few billion years and find the Encyclopod then. Then just loop around the Big Bang again to get back to a timeline indistinguishable from the one you left.

>>52744707
>not using legacy captcha.
It's just writing two words. EZ PZ. All you have to do is set it in the options and you'll never need to select a street sign again.

>>52744754
Titan AE.
Or you could if someone ever made it.

>>52744641
How would I do spoiler 1?

>>52744836
Is it weird that I actually find the current system easier? I have issues with deciphering handwriting.

>>52744856
Resident Evil can do it, if you want a zero-effort solution. You can buy that in the virus customization section. If you value your CP too highly to do that, just stack biotech perks, I guess.

>>52744721
Sometimes I kinda wish for a restart button on /jc/ with a more firm hand guiding things from the start.

What are the strongest Willpower perks in the chain?

>>52744876
It'd just turn out like Conduit did, anon.

Nigh-almost the exact same way.

>>52744754
I think in Aria you can get a list of animals and plants brought to terraformed mars, which has at least cats and probably a fuckton of fish on it.

>>52744811
The easiest solution at this point is to replace all of the jumps, just so that the people hating on them have nothing left to stand on. Sure other jumpmakers won't make the same jumps for certain, but if we get several new jumpmakers out of it at least the whole thing was a net gain.

Except the thread has this mindset that any jumpmaker who tries has to be held against Dirge's standard. They don't want Dirge back and have no problems shitting on the jump, but they don't want the jumps replaced even if it'll make the Dirgeposting go away.

>>52744887
Using cybernetics and/or brain surgery to physically remove your ability to give in.

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>>52744836
I find it more fun to complain about them. Also I saw Slender Man pics during last Halloween which was neat so I do have fun with the current system just sometimes it goes a little odd.

>>52744893
And how'd that go?

>>52744895
What did we just say about bringing up Dirge jumps anon. Seriously.

>>52744900
>-even if it'll make the Dirgeposting go away.
It won't though.

>>52744550
Could you, uh, elaborate who's who there? I see a couple of characters in what you said, but I'm lost for the majority.

>>52744900
>Trying this hard to justify shitting on Dirge
>pretending like you aren't the anti-Dirge shitposter

>>52744910
Thrallherd became the public abuse-bicycle and people start making their own worlds and shoving them into the Conduitverse anyway.

>>52744876
>>52744910
Piss poor. How would you regulate anything anyways. Half the shitstorms that come up are because of regulations and rules.

>>52744505
Who did you ship?

>>52744900
Get rid of all the jumps.

Replace ALL the jumpmakers. ALL OF THEM.

Yes, even that one.

>>52744923
If he has no ties to the drive, there's no reason to even bring up his name. You could just shut down any conversation that even hints at them instantly.

>>52744948
>Yes, even that one.
You keep your filthy degenerate hands off the Worm.

>>52744971
REPLACE THE WORM

>>52744948
In all seriousness, I do think it's an interesting thought experiment to think about what early jumps would have been like if they were made today, in the current environment of jumpmaking. There's a more settled pattern to jumps these days than there was when they were new and people were experimenting with ideas, it could be fun to see what they'd look like now. Not that I'm actually advocating we do this, it would cause so much yelling. But if we could alter history or something like that, I'd enjoy seeing that timeline where we were making jumps like this from the beginning.

>>52744948
I don't know how you jump to that conclusion. There's basically SoAnon, Dirge, and DDanon who would fit the bill for replacement. SoAnon outright doesn't want her jumps on the drive. Dirge has given permission to remove his jumps, and DDanon didn't even get all his jumps accepted.

Why would you lump everyone else into that.

>>52744927
Thor = Nora
Belle/Beauty = Blake
Achilles = Pyrrha
Cinderella = Cinder
Little Red Riding Hood = Ruby
Goldilocks = Yang
Snow White = Weiss
Pinocchio = Penny

>>52744900
>>52744900
I'm going to humour you: You have no idea what you're talking about if you think the resident people who hate on jumps obsessively and maniacally are like if you think they would take that as anything other than validation to target someone else next.

>>52745000
Thank you kindly.

>>52744994
It wouldn't work considering who the people that pushed the envelop were. A lot of the ideas that we have now wouldn't have even come up.

>>52744856
>>52744875
Resident Evil is best for custom viruses, but Prototype also has a virus customization section and with enough investment the nanites from Generator Rex could potentially let you transform all life on an entire planet.

If you're feeling especially evil you could modify the Diclonius virus from Elfen Lied, or one of the many genetic viruses from Star Trek.

>>52744967
No matter how much you pretend otherwise, his jumps aren't going away and so you're wrong.

>>52744999
It's a joke, anon. One born of despair and exasperation.

>>52744754
Animorphs - DNA Samples
Eclipse Phase - Animal Genetics Library

>>52745003
The shitposters have proven multiple times that they shit on people who either have no means of arguing back, or they shit on people who have given up on arguing back. That won't change.

We're already giving them the validation to target Dirge, it won't stop them from targeting somebody else at the same time. At least by removing one of them they'll just fall back to the old routine at worst.

>>52745012
Most characters in RWBY are allusions to fairy tales or legends. Not all, but the majority. And everyone except Salem has a color-based name. Supposedly Ozpin isn't meant to have one, either, but I guess they screwed up and gave him one anyway? He's named after (and themed after) the Wizard of Oz and his color is green, that's a pretty clear link.

>>52745036
>his jumps aren't going away
Isn't this where the problem is in the first place? If it was anybody else that had made those jumps, people would be free to use them without getting harassed.

>>52744940
Well, let's see. I shipped Arkos at first only for Pyrrha to once again die thanks to a bad roll, so after that I moved on to Lancaster, which went better. Then there was Ren and Nora, Sun and Blake, Yang got with Weiss, and then I started doing shit like getting Oscar and Penny together because I was bored. Qrow and Winder ended up having a thing, but I didn't do that on purpose, they just hooked up after surviving a fight with one of my monsters.

>>52744940
>>52745074
Winter* Fuck.