/heem/ - 17 more hours edition

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First for GADOOSH

14 hours until Fight Pass Prelims

>posting with literal cucks

feelsbadman

>>77355023
what was our record for picks? i remember jones/corimer 1 was pretty huge for picks, this one is more standard in size right now

Will DC vs JBJ 2 be a decision?

How many hours left?

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>https://youtu.be/eccLPmw3c20
>Mayweather vs. McGregor - ALL ACCESS: Episode 1

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>>77355085
see:
>>77355060
and
>>77355023

>>77355081
80% jon finishes

>>77355093
What about 100% Jon? haha :-D

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>mfw could heem every in this thread

>>77355090
>>77355060
Thanks!

>>77355105
20% decision, didn't think i had to include it as its basic math

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rate my walkout song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsJ4O-nSveg

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>>77355023
>not using my webm

>>77355132
gay but she's really cute

Daily Goobs/Wifebeater reminder that:

even if Conor's side comes out to $100,000,000, which is doubtful because a lot of that is no doubt coming from back-end points (meaning he's likely not to see money from that for a long time if ever, google: Hollywood, back-end points, not getting paid), he has to pay out:

15% to publicist
10-15% to manager
15% to agent
$300-$500,000 for camp, pre-fight medical, travel
and
$121,505.25 (lump sum; income tax)
PLUS
39.6% of the income over $418,400 (income tax)

And... the
$100,000,000
shows up as about

>$14,000,000

in the bank.
Still alright money.

>>77355149
>it's a canada pretends to understand finances episode

>>77355139
t. born in 1998

>>77355132
baby king a cute

-wut?! is she really gay? i don't believe it

>>77355149
dumbass

>>77355132
this cocky bitch needs to get dominated (by my dick)

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>>77355149
lol

Are prelims not on FS1 like they usually are? Didn't see it on the TV schedule.

>>77355153
what is it you think I don't understand, kiddo?
please point out my error -- or is it just that you want to believe Conor will be a gigazillionaire?

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>>77355165

>>77355174
>when someone says weed is bad for you

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Horiguchi vs Tokoro
Aliakbari vs King
Garcia vs Gagloeva
Miura vs Tapa
Nasukawa vs Saiga

Rizin will startat 1am EST Saturday night/Sunday morning after UFC 214

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This is the ideal front yard. You may not like it, but this is what peak lawn maintenance looks like.

rate my walkout song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlu3UlYxTOU

>>77355189
you mean different varieties of grass growing in one yard, including crabgrass and clover?

>>77355190
pussy ass nigga song

>>77355201
so now you're gonna drop the n bomb

>>77355187
Are you still doing 214 picks?

>>77355172
No one uses post-taxes and post-tax income when they talk about things. So saying he makes 100 million is correct even if post tax it's less.

Plus conor has sponsor/endorsement etc opportunities. Also the % on what people take is way too high.

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>jones and dc will finally happen
>lawler cerrone
>tyron heems maia

>>77355189
don frye homeless
tim sylvia working as a roofer in Maine
cro cop cutting lawns in Vancouver

fuck mma

>>77355229
>being excited for Lawler/Cerrone

>>77355172
mate your talking about hundreds of millions of dollars from this fight. There is no way they would just let the money drip away like that. These people have fucking clever accountants.

For example you might have a situation where his COMPANY is paid the money, and his company pays him a yearly salary whatever.

>>77355230
Don Frye is homeless because his 2nd ex wife is a crazy golddigging bitch and his management and care takers didnt help him when he needed help the most in court and crazy gold digging bitch practically took every fucking cent under "their" name

>>77355230
It's too bad they don't take care of their vets, but it happens in every sport

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>>77355236
If Lawler has anything left at all he really ought to heem Cerrone in 30 seconds

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I just woke up, is the succ still on or did someone pull out?

>>77355255
>>77355230
Half the big names of today will go bankrupt probably

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>>77355275
succ imminent

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>last fight was close decision with judges known to help JBJ

DC
>best form of his career
>confident
>playing mind games
>amazing ground game
>dominated Gustafsson
>calm and confident at the pre-fight press conference
>never did steroids

JBJ
>probably worst form of his career
>mentally destroyed
>rusty as fuck, haven't fought in a year
>his biggest weapon taken away from him (distance keeping by eyepokes)
>still partying
>we don't really know his ground game, so let's assume slightly above average, since he has no real fight experience
>got dominated and lost to Gustafsson
>completely shook at the pre-fight press conference
>fucking shook in vlogs, his teammates know this so they're sucking his dick the whole time
>trying so hard to play mindgames at pre-fight presser face-off, and fails miserably
>fresh off steroids
>tried way too hard to act cool at the weight-ins


Literally explain why is everyone on Jon's dick. I'm gonna keep reposting this until I get a satisfying answer.

>>77355222

>>77355222
>No one uses post-taxes and post-tax income when they talk about things

That's exactly the point.
There are a lot of poster here who are so young they've never paid income tax.
You're right that if his cut is $100 mil he'll "make" 100 mil, but you and I understand it differently than a lot of tween shitposters here, and this is directed at them.

>the % on what people take is way too high.
just industry standard - though a lot of entertainment agents take 10%, and in fact are legally limited to 10% in California. But 15% is certainly not unheard of in boxing and in Vegas, so I went with that.

>>77355168
Nvm find out they are on FXX

>>77355301
>>got dominated and lost to Gustafsson
>>completely shook at the pre-fight press conference

what

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>>77355236

Who should the goof for 214 be?

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>>77355238
>These people have fucking clever accountants.
They still have to obey the law - especially in a high-profile event where the big name is being monitored by the fucking IRS. lol.
You just can't fuck over the US government anymore and expect to get away with it. Of course, you exploit everything you can, but it has to be done legally.

>For example you might have a situation where his COMPANY is paid the money, and his company pays him a yearly salary whatever.
I've explained this here before and I've got to get to bed so all I can tell you right now is that with an LLC, a C corp, and an S corp, the advantages just aren't financially significant - two of them don't really harbour potential advantage at all.

>The really significant issue isn't taxes -- it's how much of Conor's cut will the UFC be taking?

>>77355392
Gus.

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>>77355392
an actual goof like it's supposed to be

>>77355378
Fucking kek

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Can you imagine being prime Cain? Knowing that you could fuck up anybody in the world with your bare hands and nobody could even do anything about it? I mean he could just grab you and put his big beautiful juicy cock, slide it between your cheeks and pound you with his insane cardio for days and all you could do is moan from ecstasy that he's not pounding your face. It's crazy isn't it? No man should have so much power.

>>77355236
>he's not

>>77355433
It's just going to look like Cerrone/RDA 2.

>>77355416
I support your right to your fantasy, dad.

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Was Jones coked up at the live weigh ins?

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any /FanZants/ on

>>77355378
I hope Lawler gets some rest before the fight.

>>77355404
I just found out your money is fully 100% waterproof.

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Shut up and post your favorite female fighter

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>>77355378
>Le "Too cool for school" Man

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>>77355496

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>>77355496

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>>77355496

>>77355496
>favorite female fighter
lol

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>>77355496

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>>77355496

>>77355505
i kind of hope he gets schooled now desu

>>77355581
yep, me too

>>77355403
That was just an example. I have no idea how they'd arrange it. I'm not going to play amateur accountant like some people.

All I'm saying is there is no fucking way they'll be paying nearly 50% on all those millions. You'd have to be out of your fucking mind to allow that to happen.

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succ

>>77355491
For one of the three driest continents it's a bit weird that that was a priority tbqh.

>>77355491
rip proof too

americlaps btfo

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>>77355496
I love me some miesha

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>>77355576

>>77355599
prefer the original

>>77355403
conor wont have to pay america

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>Cormier heems Jones
>retires
>Jones fights Gus for the vacant belt
>Cormier says 'You're not a real champion, they just gave you the belt'
This is the best timeline

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>>77355613

>>77355496
They kind of all suck as fighters and there are too many attractive ones to name. But personality wise, I will always root for Holly, Miesha, and Claudia.

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>>77355496

>>77355640
If Cormier loses there is no way he stays at 205.

>>77355642
thats bad for us, we want it at .50, just usd so shit

>>77355666
imagine sliding your tongue all the way up between that

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>>77355475

Right here.

Which song will T-Wood walkout tonight?

I suggest either

A) Chocolate Rain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZ2xpQwpA

B) Life of O.J

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM7lw0Ovzq0

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>>77355701
I imagine it would be very sweaty

>>77355716
:8|

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>>77355733
>>77355716

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>>77355496
Ronda Rousey. I miss her so much she single handedly dominated the whole sport and made the ufc what it is today. She is the mike tyson of the ufc. I hope she will raise again. Her skills are still unmatched and will be for a really long time. Holly may defeated her in a fashionable manner but ronda defeated ronda first... also where is holly now?
Mark my words, Ronda will come back and she will take the belt again and she will hold it for years.

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>>77355733

>>77355719
Everybody Needs a Fence to Lean On

>>77355719
no idea but Jon Jones walkout song will 100% be about a king retaking his throne

>>77355753
WMMA died with Ronda

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>>77355576
CHOSENED

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>>77355496

the queen of boxing ofc

B++M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGKK8MgOffM

THIS IS THE ULTIMATE

>>77355727
That's a man

paige vanzant is disgusting

>>77355861
oh shit that's a human being

>>77355861
did I just watch a sloth bear eat a man's face?

my face hurts

>>77355861
wtf? wtf?! wtf!!

>>77355599
Haven't been on here in a while can someone give me a quick rundown on the succ meme?

>>77355716
why is there an old embroidered leather couch behind her?

>>77355904
follow your mom to the docks one night, kiddo

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>>77355861
lol bears amirite

>>77355496
the Japanese baby-king woman, whatever her name is.

I like her aesthetic, women fighting isn't really my thing. Or even a thing.

>>77355922
lmao

>>77355301
Jones isn't "off" steroids and Cormier has always been on steroids. Jones is just better at it since his brothers are in the NFL.

Jones is maybe slightly shook but I've never seen anyone as shook as DC is right now. He's terrified that if he loses he'll have failed at everything he's ever tried to do in his life.

>>77355928
>I like her aesthetic
she got that lunch-lady thiccness to her

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****OFFICIAL THREAD THEME****
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrjStSqu_w4

****OFFICIAL THREAD THEME****

>>77355598
>All I'm saying is there is no fucking way they'll be paying nearly 50% on all those millions. You'd have to be out of your fucking mind to allow that to happen.
this is why i posted that, because a lot of people, like you, think that there's magic surrounding big money. there's not, there's nothing but reality. And while the total isn't nearly as thrilling as you'd hope, it's a LOT more money than any of us will ever make.

The fact is you HAVE to pay taxes, and you HAVE to pay your manager and your agent and your publicist, and those people work on percentage. And just because we never hear about them doesn't mean they don't exist.
Conor has a lawyer and an accountant - he also has to pay them. He needs groceries and haircuts, too. Nothing is free, reality is a bitch but Conor is doing just fine.

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>>77355928

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Will artems next fight be a title shot lads?

>>77355999
azor jon

>>77355999
they actually lit his hands on fire

>tfw will probs miss half of the fights later
god damn it lads

>>77356019
negro artem vs slave mendes

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>>77356026
The absolute mad lads!

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>>77355613
Canadian money is rip-proof, waterproof, and see-through. burgers and 'roos btfo.

>>77355904
it's pathetic, don't even bother
for teen bottom-feeders only

>>77355999
why tho

>>77355953
i'm getting a completely different vibe from DC, but I guess we'll see.

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>>77356044
slow your roll

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>

>>77356057

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>tfw no king(female) bully gf

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>>77356057
>doesn't even succ
beat it, nerd

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this is a guaranteed memes card, even if it sucks

hell, especially if it sucks

pepper your angus

>>77355989
lol
is that Tom Cruise?

>>77356098
I WAS ABOUT TO SAY CAN'T BE TOO TALL

THEN SAW HE WAS ON A BOX ROFL

>>77356044
Nice woman scientist on there Sweden Jr.

>>77356004
she's adorable.
but why is she posing with Lana del Rey's big brother?

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>>77356098
lol
yes it is.

>>77355733
>>77355914
lel

>>77355475
>feelin real sassy

what did she mean by this?

requesting autistic canadian to sperg about van zant's financial situation please

>>77356147
>what did she mean by this?
can't just post a selfie gotta have a reason

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>>77356075
how can they even copy?!

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>Wake up Jon, it's all over.

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>PREDICTION TIME

in 12 hours, where does the succ meme stand?

>people buying into the JBJ personality cult
>hurrr he's so savage hurrr
>ignoring reality
>post-USADA
>meh against OSP

Thanks for the money, fools.

>>77356218
should really say 24 hours, forgot what time it was

JBJ betters should be feeling pretty nervous today.
If only they had done more research.

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>>77356237

>>77356237
bettors*

>>77356226
>>77356237
why would the OSP fight matter at all samefag

first of all, jones had zero reason or motivation to get up for that fight. he wanted to embarrass daniel, not taking it out on osp.

in his most listless fight he 50-45s OSP and somehow that's a bad thing.

he wants to end the DC saga more than ever and send him into retirement

Where's the prediction cuck?

If he misses my picks again I'm gonna heem that goof.

>>77356226
i mean he 50-45'd OSP with double his strikes and like 5 td/passes to 0 and broke his arm

he also beat DC convincingly already

>>77356095
it can't suck there are too many good fights, at least one of them has to be memetastic

youve gotta be a special type of stupid to lose a fight with a 12" reach advantage

who has even done that in mma, struve?

>>77356292
ferguson has a huge reach that he doesn't use

>>77356301
i would bet he never had a full foot over anyone, especially in his losses

was funny listening to Cruz give his DC path to victory

>had the right recipe last time
>just needs to do more of it

40 year old failed olympian gonna magically gain cardio, i only know one way that happens

>>77356292

Semmy Schilt.

>>77356327
cruz was def hinting he thought jones would win

>>77356218
DC

would Romero cuck DC in a wrestling match today even with the size difference?

>>77356279
jon is fighting from emotion
dc is smarter and has learned from their last fight

still jj has the reach and that's a huuuge advantage

who was shook in the staredown

>>77356355
no

>>77356356
jones never seems to fight on emotion in the cage, he's always pretty surgical

he stuck to the gameplan last fight going to the body early and then made in-fight adjustments when he needed to, like wrist controlling in the clinch. head and arm ties were getting him lit up with uppercuts, then he switched and went back to dominating

>>77356365
neither one
dc was laser focussed, weighed in "sideways" staring at jj

>>77356356
>jon is fighting from emotion
>psychopaths have emotion
news to me

DC is going to no longer be a professional mma fighter in approximately 17 more hours

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How many fighters you know are on designer peds rightnow without knowing?
>https://www.usada.org/growing-evidence-ostarine-athlete-risk/

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>>77356408
Win or lose I think he retires

JON JONES

GET YO DICK TOGETHER

IM SUCCIN

>>77356434
you're better than this

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>>77356408
losing by close 5 round decision probably won't break him but a KO or submission probably would

>>77356447
savage comments

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>>77356459
honestly I never even read the comments until now

I feel offended now maybe I should crop them out

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>>77356455

LISTEN HEEM, I'M FUCKUNG DRUNK AND ABOUT TO PUT MY BET IN, DC OR JBJ?

IM ABOUT TO DROP $100 ON SOMEONE BUT NOT SURE WHO

>>77356500
jon jones inside distance

>>77356500
put it on DC by TKO trust me all the signs are there

>>77356500
jbj but more importantly you should go look up some important facts about how Alcohol poisoning is a serious — and sometimes deadly — consequence of drinking large amounts of alcohol in a short period of time. Drinking too much too quickly can affect your breathing, heart rate, body temperature and gag reflex and potentially lead to a coma and death. Alcohol poisoning can also occur when adults or children accidentally or intentionally drink household products that contain alcohol. A person with alcohol poisoning needs immediate medical attention. If you suspect someone has alcohol poisoning, call for emergency medical help right away.

>>77356500

I was gonna tell you to wait and see what Australia will pick and then bet on the opposite but then I noticed your flag.

>>77356500
Maia is a better underdog pick

>>77356500
DC

you will regret it if you don't

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>>77356500
look at this man

now put the house on Bones

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Jon Jones will win.

>>77356530
wow has he been eating steaks look at those guns

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>mfw dc retires in the cage tonight

>>77356581
>mfw when jon doesnt let him have the moment and trashes him even worse post-fight

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>tfw DC's career depends on this win but he's just gonna get bullied again by dat ridiculous reach advantage

>>77355090
Hnng

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>>77356581
>stay up all night just to see a broken DC call it quits

>>77356365
Jones smiled. Fighters who smile at weighins statistically lose more often.

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>>77356619
This will literally happen
And maia will get ko'd

>>77356619
where did you find this pic of me

DELET THIS

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>why the succ meme
>why bully dc guys

who is more fake, Jones or DC?

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>>77356665
Jones

>>77356688
why? because he tried to get people to like him?

of course he's a dick, he's the best asskicker of all time.. that's his fucking title. he's a fucking asshole so what.

anyone else score the first fight 50-45?

i scored round 2 a draw and round 4 a 10-8

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>>77356698
>wanting me to justify my opinion

>>77356743
DC doesn't even know what he is.

I think he's going to be a commentator come this time tomorrow for the foreseeable future.

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>>77356743
Why did you save it with the same filename I did Bruce ?

https://www.instagram.com/sugaseanmma/

Knew this dude was a twat

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>when you inhale molten weed

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>>77355496

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The weak should fear the strong.

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>>77356879

>any fighter in MMA
>not either a twat, red neck, nigger or straight up douche bag

>>77356581

great meme pic

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>>77356879
>vegan
>DUDE WEED
>meme tattoos
>"partying"
>reddit

>>77356941
>not either a twat, red neck, nigger or straight up douche bag
JDS

>>77356957
so your standard 20-30 with a social life

>>77356941
Kelvin, Faber, Cain

I want to say Wonderboy but he's kind of a twat.

>>77356997
Wonderboy is literally the nicest guy ever

>>77357004
did you see what he did to weidman last fight

complete twat move

>>77356997
Kelvin and Faber are douches

>>77356941
Tony Ferguson honestly

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>>77357017
proof it out, bongo
>faber is a saint and kelvin seems to be a good sport

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>>77356941

>>77355754
my dick is confused

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>>77357047
Faber is a good guy who carries himself as a douche, check the record bud

>>77357047
Faber and Kelvin are both dude weed lmao type. They're nice guys but that doesn't make someone who refers to themselves as Cali kid not a douche

Same with Sage, crazy nice guy but...

>>77356982
>normie
>good
you know where to go back to

>>77356997
na he isnt

hes actually a pedo

>>77356941
Eh Demian Maia?

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>>77355753

the ronda hysteria train was glorious. I rode that shit to the ground. I actually lost a few hundred during her downfall.

However, I also like the new well-rounded female fighters they have on now.

>>77357086
how can I go back when I have it open in another tab

>>77356941
Machida, Vitor, GSP, Moose

looks like picksguy has abandoned us, I have no picks and i must lose after the first fight

>>77356941
maia, the korean bois, dom, bobby knuckles

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>>77357204
ctrl + tab = go forward
ctrl + shift + tab = go back

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>>77357346
thanks anon

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>>77356581
Goobs really channeling his inner Cruise here

>>77357395
she was made for porn

>DC retire
>Champ is a known cheater who cheated all his life

/heem/ will defend this.
Fucking succ

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>>77355189
>Mow cop

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>>77357532

>caring about how dirty Jones is
>it's a fucking fight

all champions cheat

>>77357470
degenerate

>>77356665
Man I'm gonna miss DC so much when he retires. I don't think we appreciated him enough when he was fighting lads ;_;

>>77357590
shut the fuck up you goddamn fag

>>77357532
jones literally didn't get caught using peds, just an estrogen blocker

every pro athlete is on peds

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>>77357575
thanks for the (You) mehmet.

>>77357620
LITERALLY THIS

>>77357575
Dontcha hide it, dirty bugger, ya fancy a shag with dem lil'rose, putting ya dick right into her piss flaps

>>77357622
wrong, clomid raises test all by itself

also you're a fucking retard

>>77356941
Masvidal, Maia, Holloway, Whittaker, Thompson, etc. I can go on

>>77357633
>blockhead frog
fitting, right onto the neck

>>77357590
Me too, mate. Saddly /heem/ is full of chollos

>>77357620
Something wrong, mate?

>>77357659
lol no it doesn't you dumb fuck

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/r/mma on the left, /heem/ on the right

>>77357666
>Holloway
HAHAHA
>Masvidal
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHA

/heem/ butthurt when me boy DC knock out the chicken leg limp dick punk in the 1st.

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>>77356957
you may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like

>>77357649
you're no wrong lad, fair play

>>77357622
and blocking out estrogen doesnt enhance performance? lmaoo

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The SUCC is ON, my friend.

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>>77357733
Me in the middle,
I regret nothing

>>77357774
it doesn't actually if you tank that shit your fucked

dont @me with ur shit knowledge cunt

>>77357752
How is Holloway any of those things?

Masvidal I can understand but I feel he's not serious most of the time

>>77357789
oh youre saying estrogen enhances performance

damn must be why everyone is on the birthcontrol these days

>>77357766
this guys gotta be the tallest bantamweight in the ufc, must be around fucking 6'0

>>77357804
Max is a wigger who talks like an idiot, how is he not a douche?

>>77357718
>Clomifene is sometimes used in the treatment of male hypogonadism as an alternative to testosterone replacement therapy.[15] It has been found to increase testosterone levels by 2- to 2.5-fold in hypogonadal men.[15]

>>77357828
>wigger

he's a spic you retard

>>77357843
BTFO

aussie managed to sink to a new low

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They bribed judges sacrificed Holly Holm FOR THIS?

>>77357843
>In hypogonadal men
At least read what you reference my man

>>77357882
Holly was losing so badly she started to wrestle for the first time

How are you guys going to watch it? Someone link me a good stream

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>>77357860
He's a coconut nigger ya dummy

>>77357920
half of the fucks on here crawl over to plebbit for streams LOL

>>77357814
you need to balance the levels dipshit you have no idea, you can't tank estrogen

>>77357843
>in hypogonadal men
get the fuck outa here, jones is 6'4 and ripped he's not low test midget

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>>77357905
>Costa Rica
Opinion disregarded.

>>77357930
Whoa, take it easy with the racial slurs /pol/AND. Amirite??

>>77357843
and just so you know what its actually for, is bringing NATURAL test production back up after you've done a test cycle

BUT JONES DIDN'T POP FOR THAT

>>77357959
Is spain even good at non-women sports?

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anyone got an updated version of this for 2017 or at least 2016?

>>77357948
>he's not low test midget
reminder that time when his test levels were that of a 70y old grandpa

>>77357948
>>77357900
you're fucking retards

of course jones will be gypogondal by now, that's what happens when you take steroids, when you stop using them you can't naturally produce testosterone properly anymore

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>>77357959
Breivik telling me to stop being rayssis, now that's rich

>>77358020
that'd be a masking agent, what he pop'd for is for bringing natural test production back up, because you've had HIGH test levels so your nuts have stopped

not replying to your disgusting lack of knowledge again, you ignorant dipshit

>>77358035
>when you stop using them you can't naturally produce testosterone properly anymore
Myth

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>>77357900
>>77357948
oh sure, that thing they use to raise test totally only works on "hypogonadal men." remember when TRT was only supposed to be for hypogonadal men too. oh and why would elite athletes in their physical primes need hypogonadism medication....what widely used substances can crash your natural test production and cause that condition....? no...couldn't be

>>77357993
jones did pop for clomid, idiot.

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>>77357995
Wouldn't know, I'm not a Spaniard. Calla la boca, Costa Rica.

>>77358044
Touche, honkey.

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USADA was a mistake

>>77358068
so youre admitting that he was on steroids

lmaooo based aussie btfoing himself

>>77358086
>jones did pop for clomid, idiot.
meant he didn't pop for test

>>77358115
never said he wasn't, i said JONES LITERALLY DIDN'T POP FOR PEDS

which he didn't

>>77358082
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24636400

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022534713045801

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306987709000528

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S001502821400140X

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/036354659001800417?journalCode=ajsb

>>77358149
aint reading that shit, he's right its a myth, you only fuck them after prolonged abuse

>>77358142
you are retarded. even pretending it only works on low test people, how is a low test person artificially raising their test not performance enhancing? jesus christ you're so fucking stupid.

is she autistic?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE_w3IiOl6M

>>77358177
shriveled balls gold coast gym rat detected

>>77358177
retard

inb4 >I was only pretending to be retarded xD

>its an aussie thinks hes a steroid expert because he read some stuff on a bodybuilder forum so you must agree with his bias episode
jones has used steroids if you disagree then ur ignorant or trollign

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>>77358004
no i do have this though

>>77358193
google is clomid a ped

tell me the results, tanking your estro with no test increase isn't going to improve your performance

you are wrong