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/heem/: When Will They Learn? Edition

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Previous thread: >>64682073

Upcoming MMA events:
1/17 - UFC FN 81: Dillashaw v Cruz
1/29 - Lellator 148: Koscheck vs Secor
1/30 - UFC on Fox 18: Johnson vs Bader
2/6 - UFC 196: Werdum vs Sea Level Cain
2/19: Bellator: Shamrock vs Gracie III
2/21 - UFC FN 82: Cerrone vs Means
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for Datsik
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First for Uncle Dana
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loooooooooool
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2nd for Schaub
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>>64688814
what is this from?
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>>64688832
>he doesn't have fightpass
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>>64688793
goddamn kuck. i had a new bread fresh and ready for delivery.
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It feels good knowing that i can
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>>64688832
Dana's new show where he picks fight in the street. In every episode a former fighter coaches him
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>>64688888
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>>64688855
Oh fuck what was that, thanks for the webm lad
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>>64688853
quick being an unfunny overweight fat fucking american shill and tell me what this is from
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>tfw /heem/ made the front page of Reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/3zewco/making_love_with_her_eyes/
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>>64688884
>>64688888
Now thats something let me tell ya goofs
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>>64688888
>he doesn't get to watch all the great original programming
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>>64688888

>wasting quints on this shit

THATS FUCKING ILLEGAL
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>>64688814
Is that really Dana? Goddamn
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>>64688884
>>64688888
Impressive. Imagine how proper it would have been had you tagged your own post tho.
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holy shit i got quints for the first time

mama i did it
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>>64688888
>mfw quints on /heem/
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>>64688880
id watch it
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>>64688943
>but he still doesn't have fight pass
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>>64688943
MOM BABY WE DID IT! YEEEAAAHHH!
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Whenever I'm peaking in a set and its getting down to the grueling pain, I imagine a boxing or mma icon to the side of me, shouting encouragement.

Similarly, when I do a push up set, I imagine them doing the set with me. I work harder and push myself more every time.

Today, it was fabricio werdum.
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>>64688983

>no known weakness
>yfw prime Vitor was invincible
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>>64688983
>no known weaknesses
>USADA
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ALTITUDE
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>>64688983
>no known weaknesses
>tfw Vitor was jesus
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>>64688994
randy beat him back then though
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So now that Lesnar is out of the picture due to his diverticulitis, do you think that John "The Prototype" Cena could have a shot at the belt?
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>>64689019
How do you beat a man that you can't see?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8ZRZ10rlGQ

UHWAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB WUB
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>>64688983
I always remember to take my True Revival Touch before I get into a long period of training
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>>64689124
Still can't believe this fight is happening, and the UFC is unironically using the term "sea level Cain" during broadcasts.
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>>64688888

>quick being
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>>64689124

That's YOU AND ME tier
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>>64689165
Sea level Cain vs Motivated BJ vs Chuck with that look in the eyes

who wins?
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>>64689216
Deer meat Hendricks.
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Name 5 non-heavyweights who would unironically beat Brendan Schaub in a sanctioned fight.
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Did Holm KO'ing Ronda the only female KO victory in the UFC?
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>>64689273

>That sentence

I'm so sorry lads, but you know what I mean right?
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>>64689258
JBJ, Gus, DC, Romero, Rumble, Conor
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>>64689273
ronda alexis davis

>inb4 it wasn't one

that's what it's recorded as so shut up
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>>64689273
Ronda knocked out Bethe
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>>64689292
It's okay, basic reading comprehension isn't required to post on a taiwanese fishing website like this one.
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>>64689331
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>>64689331

I have the flu and barely slept last night. Though that's not a good excuse for hitting submit on that post.

Already forgot about this >>64689329
I guess in hindsight it doesn't really register cause Bethe tagged her with every punch she threw in those 30 seconds.
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What are some good fights to get a friend interesting in mma?
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>>64689388

Lawler vs. Condweet
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http://youtu.be/i-Gcmtvz03g
@3:13
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who is one ufc fighter you would not let get close if you saw them in person?
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What event/fight would you lads like to have witnessed in person the most?
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>>64689388

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrwJQhCSLRo
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>>64689124
>nobody has incorporated Rogan's "OOOHHHHHHH" into a wubstep song yet
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>>64689486
UFC 189 hands down
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Edgar vs Maynard II is the way to go I believe.
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Yoel Roidmero has been tested 6 (six) times by USADA
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>>64689486
I would have loved to have been invited to one of Arianny's Abu Dhabi events 2bh
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>>64689486

193 main event

:)
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>>64689486

UFC 194
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>>64689532
Yoel Romero is turning 39 in April
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>>64689388
Griffin vs Bonnar
Mir vs Nogueira
Lawler vs MacDonald
Almost any Jon Jones fight
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>>64689532

And this is how we know USADA tests are 100% beatable
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>>64689532
>>64689557

He's a former Olympian and has good genetics.
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>>64689578

There's good genetics, and then there's "good genetics"
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Bellator needs to stop being Gaylator and remove UFC from the monopoly spot. Just give fighters bigger wages and watch them all come around. Fuuuuck Dana White, he'll pay when he sees fighters leave his scams for a better paycheck.
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Good to see that Brazil got banned for posting that off-topic image. Notice how clean and on topic we are with the fight discussion now?
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>>64689601
Sorry you had to see this
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>>64689601
>Just give fighters bigger wages
I'm glad the solution is that easy, thanks for the input
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>>64689637
How is it possible for a man who is not a bitch to like Dana White?
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>>64689660
Sry forgot that you're a cuckold>>64689637
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>>64689660
>>64689672
>it's the /pol/ swede
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>>64689532
>you can't be fit at 38 years old

He's been an athlete his whole life not some random guy who popped out of nowhere
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>>64689468
Alexander Emelianenko
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>>64689601
Are you this daft?

>why don't we just make more money????
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>>64689124
jesus fucking christ
UFC suck so bad at that stuff, so they just pile on the sensory overload
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>>64689601
>long contracts hard to run out
>premiere promotion and spotlight
>will bury you for not signing early
>6 months exclusive negotiation
>1 year matching clause
Zuffa has this on lockdown
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>>64689744
Oh wait... shit... uh... fuck, I don't know...
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>>64688814

Wait, I thought uncle dana was more curvy desu
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>>64689486
Fedor vs Cro Cop
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>>64689737

This is what most people fail to understand tbqh.

Same thing with Sage.

If you've been an athlete who competes at an elite level a considerable part of your life you're going to look good whether you're 38 or 19.
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>>64689315

>Conor
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Just watched Lookin for a Fight. What a great show. I might actually maintain a fight pass subscription for this. Serra is a hilarious. I laughed when he was talking shit to Tooth for touching his hair and then touching the taffy. Also how can Tooth eat a canoli if he's vegan?

Some pretty good heems too.
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>>64689815

Hi sage
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Posting this again
http://strawpoll.me/6450271/
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>>64689809

>still doubting
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>>64689839
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>>64689839

Here lads

>>64689850

>conor unironically beating a dude who has almost a hundred pounds on him

Okay la, he will beat him la
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Silly silly vs Barao

http://youtu.be/MxXjNyRv1uo
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>>64689876

NO ONE CAN TAKE THAT LEFT

I SEE STIFFNESS IN BIG BROWN
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>>64689833
Hi /r/mma
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>>64689877
Great fucking fight, I think Cruz might be fucked here
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Sage Northcutt
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>>64689839
IT SURE LOOKS LIKE SHE'S WELL PREPARED FOR HOLY HOLM ROUND 2
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Conor's "visualization" will crumble once he faces a superior opponent like RDA.
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Quality banter between Artem and Saul.
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>>64689839

I would be rooting for her hard in the rematch if instead of this she'd post footage of her in the gym like bonny Jones.

Is she trying to get sympathy from her fans cause all this just proves is that her entire tough not a DNB act was a marketing facade.
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forgot pic
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>>64690076
Artem is an irrelevant faggot who cant fight
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>>64690076

Saul's already beaten this journeyman. No point to prove tbqh.
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>>64690076
twitter banter truly is pathetic
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>>64690076
>arse
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>>64689906
You clearly haven't seen his fight against Gonzaga
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>>64690076
Both guys are practically begging for a spot on the London card.
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>>64688814
dana on the roids again
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>>64690177
Is that the silva/bisping card?
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>>64689493
Searched for "Joe Rogan remix" on Youtube just to see if there was anything, interesting results desu
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>>64690207
ya
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>>64688814
He's a big guy
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>>64688814
I died when Serra said something like
>I knew I was gonna have to take my shirt off, so ive been easing up on the pizza. You mighta sawr an ab.

Sad that there are people on here so poor they cant scrounge $10 a month to watch the matt serra comedy hour.
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>leave Robbie to me
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>>64690248
>It's legit
Why on Earth would someone want to hack Weidman's account?
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>leave Conor to me
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>>64690289
Where is CM punk realistically going with his UFC "career"?

How the fuck did he get the dumb idea to become an MMA fighter?
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>>64690308
>hack
>type in "jointheteam" in the password field
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>>64690324
>Where is CM punk realistically going with his UFC "career"?

Ask his bank account that question.
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>mfw a sneaky leprechaun steal my gold in 13 seconds flat
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>>64690324

>Not wanting the memes

Get in my mount broo!
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>>64690324
>likes watching mma
>does wrestling
>gets offered a contract by dana
>gets paid and will most likely never fight

why wouldn't he become an "mma fighter"
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>>64690340
I doubt he needs the money
If that was the case he'd stick to mandrama where he'd make far more
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CM PUNK IS A MUUUUNSTER

UNDEFEATED IN THE OCTAGON
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>>64690360
>not wanting more money
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>>64690380

>in the last year CM Punk has a better record than Aldo
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>Bruce Buffer will unironically say "With a Mixed Martial Arts record of 0 wins and 0 losses"
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>>64690396
>implying he won't say "Making his MMA debut"

dumb fucking idiot
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>>64690396
He'll just say "this mixed martial artist is making his professional debut"
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>>64689747
Holy fuck you really know nothing about the UFC.
Dana White alone is worth 350 million dollars and the UFC made profit of 600 million in 2015.
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>>64690383
Did you miss the second part of the post? More money would come from sticking to mandrama, I doubt Dana's shelling out the kind of cash they are. Even Brock stayed with them because he was offered more
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>>64689258
rockhold, corey anderson, rumble, jones, DC
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>>64688918

Now why would you and suicide from that?
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>>64690422

He's making a ton of money for just showing up and shilling shit, he doesn't have to do mandrama matches which hurt.
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>>64690324
>How the fuck did he get the dumb idea to become an MMA fighter?

Look I know everyone on heem is a keyboard karate fag. Never been in a fight or trained. But I train a Roofus Sport. I'm probably the only person on /heem/ who trains. With that said he's one of my teammates. I asked him why and he looked into my eyes and he told me "this isn't CM Punk talking to you, this is Phil Brooks talking to you I can do this". He told me how he watched MMA fights and told me how he knows he could defeat everyone from 155 up to 185. He told me how he watched Hendrick/Lawler,GSP/Condit, Sanchez/Gilbert,Zombie/Porier, and told me he sees weakness when he sees them. He sees a lot of holes in their games. How he could exploit them and defeat all of them easily. He also told me that he can tell everyone in WW can't take a punch. And if Diaz was able to drop Robbie with some pitter patter shit then he will have no problem knocking out Robbie or anyone. How they have no power. How Undertaker,Brock,Cena, and even Goldust all hit him harder than anyone in MMA can. He believes in himself and that's all he needs. Now just believe me.
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>>64688983

Unless you kidnap the sister.
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>>64690360

It's not exclusively about the money. He's trained BJJ with Rener and if Dana called you saying he wanted to sign you to UFC, would you say no?

1. You'll be doing something you're interested in.
2. You will make a lot of money out of it. Way more than 99% of the people working there.

Even if he gets completely potatoe'd he's still going to make money.
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>>64689258
any 185er can probably easily beat schaub
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>>64690360

The mandrama schedule is the most ridiculous work schedule in any profession on Earth. Not even the president of the US works the kind of dates those people do.
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How to spot a casual with keywords:

>conduit
>dillasnake
>lesnar
>mcgoat
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>CARLOS IS A HECK OF A FIGHTER MAANG

I love Robbie's voice tbqh
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>>64690446
Eventually he'll have to fight, and I think he'll take more damage from the fight than from the wrestling matches.
Though that said all Dana has to do is give him some shitter, watch the buys go up and then he can reitre after his one win
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>>64690545
>Almost loses the fight
>Immediately says he's up for a rematch
The Blood King is a madman
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>>64690567
>almost
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>>64690580
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>>64690580
Lawler 2,3 and 5 mane
I can see it

Go watch the fight again lad, it's fun af anyways
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>>64690517
Or if they use the word casual
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am i banned?
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>>64690567
Robbie was too busy looking at Condit to notice he could just blast him as he comes in.
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>scoring meme kicks
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TAKES A LOTTA ENERGY TO BE A ROCKSTAR
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>>64690701

>Getting KO'd by a spinning meme kick
>State of our current MW "champion"
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>>64690642
y-yes
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>>64690638
You just used it.
Checkmate atheists.
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So /heem/ how do you see Sage Northcutt's career going?
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>tfw no fights this week
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>>64690812

>LW champ
>WW Champ
>MW Champ
>LHW Champ

Maybe HW champ if he feels up for it
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>>64690818
Give me you addres and I'll give you a fight
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anybody got the vid of cruz owning dillashaw? it got taken down on youtube apparently he made dillashaw look really stupid
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>>64690846
http://www.mma-core.com/videos/Dominick_Cruz_Dominates_TJ_Dillashaw_in_Trash_Talking/10119213
>snek in da grass
>dummy

What's next for TJ?
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>>64688814
I think Dana is on more than whiskey.
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P1: https://youtu.be/Aejfv6GLhws
P2: https://youtu.be/z9KBF8QPzAw
P3: https://youtu.be/RR_0WnbyAqY
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>>64690916
no thanks reddit
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I miss chubby Dana!
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Dustin Poirier: $84,000 (includes $42,000 win bonus)
Joseph Duffy: $20,000
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who else /feels/ for Honda?
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>>64690902
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>>64690926
I have no idea what Reddit like or dislikes. How do you know?
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>>64690902
thank you based brit bro

Cruz is master bantz
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>>64690818
that would probably still kill you
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>>64690955
Tell her to stop being a big meanie then I'll feel for her
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>>64690946
>"Chad went from 43,000 to half a rock flat! And that's just to show up to get your ass whooped!!"
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>>64690967
forever a boy
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>>64690946
dustin's little peahead is gonna get removed
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>>64690946

>104k combined
>Conor made 11 mill his last fight
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>>64690980
To me thats not bantz, thats Curz being a fight analyst. He is goat. That snake is the grass is stuck in the mud
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>>64690955

Hey Ronda, maybe you should be an overly emotional cunt and people would genuinely like you dummy.
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>>64691012
sure he did
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>>64691012
>>Conor made 11 mill his last fight
proofs?
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>>64691094
Primary Source: Conor
Secondary Source: Dee
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>>64690970
>>64690926

those fucking cucks, this is literally on the front page
https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/3zewco/making_love_with_her_eyes/
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>>64690902
Wait, why did TJ claim his MMA record was way better when Cruz is 20-1?
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>>64691033
its cerebral shit talking. dillastupid is just too stupid to get in a war of words with cruz but like you said hes also a fight analyst so his iq of fighting is way higher
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Focada, centrada, disciplinada. || Focused, disciplined.
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>>64691141
Dominick has 3 fights in the UFC
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>>64691208
Didn't he specifically say MMA record though? I'd check but I'm on a tablet and shit's a bit slow
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>>64690955

not me
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>>64690946
If already posted my bad. The none of our fucking business post.

Main Card (Pay-per-view)
Robbie Lawler ($500,000 + no win bonus = $500,000) def. Carlos Condit ($315,000)
Stipe Miocic ($60,000 + $60,000 = $120,000) def. Andrei Arlovski ($250,000)
Albert Tumenov ($20,000 + $20,000 = $40,000) def. Lorenz Larkin ($36,000)
Brian Ortega ($12,000 + $12,000 = $24,000) def. Diego Brandao ($36,000)
Abel Trujillo ($20,000 + $20,000 = $40,000) def. Tony Sims ($12,000)

Preliminary Card (FOX Sports 1)
Michael McDonald ($20,000 + $20,000 = $40,000) def. Masanori Kanehara ($14,000)
Alex Morono ($12,000 + $12,000 = $24,000) def. Kyle Noke ($26,000)
Justine Kish ($10,000 + $10,000 = $20,000) def. Nina Ansaroff ($10,000)
Drew Dober ($13,000 + $13,000 = $26,000) def. Scott Holtzman ($12,000)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)
Dustin Poirier ($42,000 + $42,000 = $84,000) def. Joseph Duffy ($20,000)
Michinori Tanaka ($12,000 + $12,000 = $24,000) def. Joe Soto ($20,000)
Sheldon Westcott ($10,000 + $10,000 = $20,000) def. Edgar Garcia ($10,000)

50K bonuses


Fight of the Night --- Robbie Lawler vs. Carlos Condit

Performance of the Night --- Stipe Miocic

Performance of the Night --- Michael McDonald
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>>64691227

>Jones 1st
>Werdum,DC,Rockhold below Aldo
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TJ could have thrown some cheeky banter to Cruz but he's not smart enough

>K-keep talking
>I'm going to knock your ass out
>My UFC record is better than yours
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>>64691012

>Conor made 11 mill his last fight

I'd be shocked if he even made a mill.
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>>64691227
Is there even a point pointing out the bullshit in this list
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What's the best UFC promo video ever?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fodfCEuTzgE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUqemCdwYog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIYt6vNLFgw
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>>64691261
Some people just aren't quick witted.
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2016 we r ready for war!! Can't wait.
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>>64691251
How is Lawler making so much? $500,000 is pretty insane considering he doesn't really seem to be a massive draw. He puts on top fights, but his name isn't really on the tongue of casuals or anything
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>>64691227

The only right thing about this is that Jones is no. 1. Everything else is wrong.
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>>64691254
he would fit right in an ISIS beheading video
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>>64691275
Either this; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnAxKohNpOQ, or this; https://vimeo.com/19996239
GSP always got the best promo treatment.
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>>64691296
Strikeforce contract and then he kept on winning in the UFC, I suppose
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>>64691294

Where's Chad?
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>>64691300
he's too short 2bh, it's bad PR to make the caliphate look like a bunch of over compensating manlets
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>>64691314
based UK

gsp/shields promo was GOAT
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>>64691275
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK3_q3RQAWU
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>>64691296

>Champ
>Two defences
>Doesn't deserve 500k

Dana please
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>>64691294
>Team Alpha Cucked by Paige
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>>64691346
It's the opposite desu, I'm surprised Dana's willing to shell out that much
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>>64691322
He was having nightmares about his 2015 again so they put him in the ASMR chamber
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Hahahahah
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I got so spoiled in December I expect for there to be at least 4 fight cards in a month now, with a card happening every week

Thanks Dana
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>>64691273
Not really m8, at this point I assume the whole thing exists just to irritate people
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When the 194 Embeddeds were comng out and McGregor was doing all the mewvement I couldn't stop laughing

Now it looks like more and more fighters are following suit. Maybe it's not the meme I thought it was
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>>64691314
I've never seen that Shields/GSP promo. It was pretty cool.

>>64691294
Where's Chad, and Benavidez,and Castillo, and PVZ? Snakes?
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>>64691395

Jones has the best bantz tbqh pham.
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>>64691430
Benavidez is in Colorado currently
https://www.instagram.com/p/BABIa_um-4p/
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>>64691261
>When Dominick asked him how are you going to beat me
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>>64691478

FABER GETTING KEKED
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>>64691429
>following suit

naw mate just because mcgregor did an embedded first doesn't mean he invented it Cruz and Dillashaw deserve more crdit
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>>64691478
>garbrant to Jackson
>benavidez to peanut butter man
>Chad to suicide
how long does alpha male have left?
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>>64691478

That's where Chad needs to go.
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>Everyone is too much of a coward on /heem/ to stand & bang with me
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>>64691478
Goddamn Australia I just having a kek. What the fuck?

>>64691543
I'll let you bang. I let you bang.
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>>64688855
please tell me this webm is from that weigh in that joe had a rod on the whole time
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>>64691543

YOU CAN'T TAKE ME RIGHT

NO ONE CAN
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>>64691543
>implying you're not scared shitless of getting in my guard
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Goodnight /heem/

Lawler won round 3.
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>>64691572
Bro I bet you don't even fight with Pride rules
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>>64691251

Wow, the real robbery is McDonald winning sub of the night and not T-City
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>>64691594
>rules
>in a street fight

Hope you got goggles for Christmas, bud
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>>64691579
shut the fuck up, he did not you stupid dick
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>>64691478
>midget
>will never get a belt
>has a rat face

How did Benavidez land Olivi?
Just how?
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>>64691579
night, you're right
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>>64691624
McDonald's was better due to the transititon
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>>64691543

Listen, the fight can go anywhere I want it to. I can stand and bang or I can put you on your back and control you from there. Black belt under Damian Maia, rolled a couple of times with members of the Gracie family, did a teaching seminar in Brazil during my holiday there.

Even so, I don't think you'd be able to threaten me standing. Rafael Cordeiro was my striking coach. My boxing, my footwork, agility, athleticism, mobility, understanding of movement, legit one punch knock out power, leg kicks, step in elbows, oblique kicks. I don't know, I just don't see how you think you're a threat to me standing up.
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>>64691629
You need rules when you're a karate black belt so you don't take it too far and kill every baka that steps to you
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>>64691651
h-he's very charismatic
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>>64691650
pretty sure two judges scored it for him which in turn means he won it
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>>64691651

Better personality than all the lanklets on 4chan confirmed
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>>64691655

lol what?

T-City sunk a standing anaconda, landed in side control, rolled backwards over his own shoulder into a mounted one armed guillotine, got reversed and landed on his back, and immediately sunk a triangle from guard

that is way, way better than escaping a choke and taking your opponents back for a rear naked. Rear naked choke? lol come on
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>>64691651
Olivi is cucking him with a black guy, her google+ account proves it
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>>64691699

Yes the same judge who scored 30-27 to someone who lost 2 rounds.
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>>64691699

>outstruck 2:1

>opponent throws 300% of the strikes you throw

>win round without a takedown, submission attempt or knockdown
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>>64691714

>MUH T-SHITTY

He's gonna get rekt as soon as he fights someone good
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>>64690638

>being this casual

y m8?
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>>64691736
notice how I dismantled your argument so you abandoned it?

oh pardon me, of course you did lmaooo
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>>64691543
i legit used to box, granted i was garbage compared to everyone else. i think i can take you tough guy
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>>64691714
And Kanehara had full mount on McDonald going in for a tight head in arm choke until McDonald sweeped him and scrambled onto his back
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>>64691012

Schaub makes 100k per webcast, he'll make more money than Conor within a few years.
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>>64691733
Love thumps can hardly be considered strikes
>Condit fanboys are still butthurt
I'd call a doctor if I were you
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>>64691783
I still think Ortega's was better. Getting out of the choke was way more impressive on McDonald's part that taking Kanehara's back and sinking the rear naked
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>>64691806

Are you his publicist? How much does he pay you to keep his brand relevant on a website with an MLP board?
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>>64691806
i think hes making more now. fox gave him his own tv show
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>>64691543
>all these keybard warriors
Seriously? How the fuck do you guys live with yourselves? We got a bunch of fucking faggots saying they could heem everyone here but no one, and I mean no one here ever has. I've heemed people, not just out but I mean permanent heemed them. Them sleepy forever. I was a Marine. I served as a Forward Observer and Field Radio Operator for Hotel Battery, Third Batallion, Fourteenth Marines, Fourth Marine Division. I'm a black belt fourth degree Konoshiny in the Marines Martial Arts. That means I'm taught to kill, not knock people out,I mean straight up kill. Rip out throats,snap necks with one hand, heart punches, rip out your finger bones and stab you with them. I'm a monster,straight up. If the UFC offered a super secret "Kill of The Night" bonus I would win that shit in a heartbeat. You guys say "I bet I could heem everyone here". I'll take you up on your bet because I FUCKING KNOW I could heem everyone here to the living death. Next time you fucking type some stupid shit that you're gonna beat someone up think again about what you're typing and who you're typing it to. Cause it might be me.
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>>64691733
go watch the round condit threw baby shit that barely connected, Lawler threw actual punches, Condit must have thought he was sparring
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>>64691807
>Love thumps can hardly be considered strikes

The rules explicitly state that volume is the most important factor dude

It doesn't say one single word about how much damage is done. It says that effective striking is who lands more strikes.
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>>64691830

Schaub matters more than you so why even bring it up?
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>>64691846
>go watch the round condit threw baby shit

flying knee to the face

baby shit

lol
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>2 days later
>still getting baited by Britain when there's nothing you can do about it

Condit won, but why are you guys having the same argument still?
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>>64691853
No they do not, they state that both significant strikes and the number of strikes landed are the most important.
Condit's little love taps do not count as strikes therefore he loses.
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>>64691723
Noke was robbed though...
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>>64691873
Only strike of note he landed in Round 3.
Meanwhile Lawler landed like 4 hard shots off of that, not to mention his counter right hands and counter elbow.
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>>64691843
>rip out your finger bones and stab you with them

Are there any martial arts films where this has actually happened?
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>>64691736
>He's gonna get rekt as soon as he fights someone good

That's what casuals say about every single up and coming exciting fighter, see Conor.
You should shut the fuck up instead of draining the fun out of everything.
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What does fighting feel like?
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>>64691875
>Condit Won
I guess that's why he's the champion now right?
OH WAIT

NEVER EVER
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>>64691843
Thanks for the fresh pasta m8
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>>64691927
Kek I don't even like Condit that much but the stats prove it

>I will keep saying Robbie won cause he literally won even though he didn't deserve it
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>>64691909
If he's still on the juice he'll do well
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Why is the UFC allowed to monopoly MMA? Isn't there some law that stops this from happening?

They killed the sport.
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>>64691843
>I served as a Forward Observer and Field Radio Operator for Hotel Battery, Third Batallion, Fourteenth Marines, Fourth Marine Division.
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>>64691953
>muh stats regardless of context
Go back to point karate, faggot.
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>>64691879
you might want to check the rules there bud lol

you're dumb by the way

>>64691903
Too bad the rules don't once mention how hard a shot is then, eh? lol you funny guys
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http://www.mmamania.com/2016/1/4/10708642/ufc-expected-announce-holly-holms-next-fight-early-as-this-week-mma
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>>64691988
>Canadians being retarded yet again
http://abcboxing.com/Unified_Rules_of_MMA_Judging_Criteria.pdf
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>>64692036
>>64692036

lol why didn't you link the UFC rules bud?

oh pardon me, we both know why lmaooo
>http://www.ufc.com/discover/sport/rules-and-regulations#14
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>>64691398
There are multiple spicy bangers before the month ends calm down casual.
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>>64692051
Because the UFC rules are outdated and the provided PDF shows the changing of terminology from 'damage' to 'effective' and exactly what effective striking means
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>>64692081
You got BTFO'd, and you've known you were BTFO'd since you googled the UFC rules, realized that they literally prove you wrong, and scrambled to find something else

hope you enjoyed it, ya fuckin idiot lmao
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>>64692112
>Literally can't even respond
Canadians are the dumbest "people" to have ever existed
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britbro is bringing major bantz
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ITT: Things Carlos Condit doesn't have
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>>64689877
He will have no chance against Cruz. He only looked good because Barao just stands in front of him all the time, his striking accuracy is still weak and he has been knocked out by Dodson in the past, so he is susceptible to go down himself.
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>That picture

Are we posting things England will never have?
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>>64691322
Out hunting deer where he was before the Conor fight.
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>>64692081
>>64692123
>UFC rules are outdated
>links a PDF from 2012

The UFC link canada posted even says "Effective striking is judged by determining the total number of legal strikes landed by a contestant."
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>>64692163
As a counterpoint: Cruz has not fought against high level competition for 5 years, his last fight was a year and a half ago and he goes for more accurate striking and as such does not to tend to weigh in on his punches,
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>>64691873
Wasn't even to the face, and ok, thats one actual strike and 20 baby ones
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Did Rogan talk about 195 on today's podcast? If not I won't listen.
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>>64692188
And those rules are from before 2012.
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>>64691969
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>>64692174
Except we have the current FW and future LW champion
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>>64692209

Yeah he said Robbie clearly won
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>>64692240
Seems plausible, but where are you getting that info? Can't find any publication date on the page
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>>64692257

I said England, not Ireland.
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>>64692209
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0maW69GF3Q

5 mins in and he's talking about building a house with weed
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>>64692159
not strictly true my man
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>>64692262
>Robbie clearly won

under pride rules maybe
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>>64692262
I'm not sure if you're having a giggle m8, do you know where Rogan starts talking about the fight?
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>>64692281
theyre talking about bread
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>>64692290
Interm titles are memes
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>>64692336
okay 4 mins
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>>64692245
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>>64692272
>Seems plausible

There is a PDF link on the UFC rules page that links to a similar document without a date on it that doesn't contain the "damage" addendum.

There have been countless decisions where people get pissed and argue that one fighter should have won because they did more damage, but the win is awarded to the fighter who had a higher volume of striking. It happens all the time and people complain about it all the time.

The decision on Saturday is actually the only decision I can think off offhand where a fighter that was outstruck by that margin was awarded a win based on the damage they did.
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>>64692343
Carwin was for real
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>>64691998
I think a lot of people are going to be surprised.
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>>64692352
That is legitimately scary. Can you imagine having a mild disagreement with him and he gets angry and suddenly does that to you?
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>>64692352
why do people even listen to this nerd? What are his credentials on the mat?
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>>64692240

>those rule are from before 2012.

>the very first page includes the Strawweight division
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>>64692380

>beta bitch confimed
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>>64692352

I CAN'T LET YOU GET CLOSE
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>>64692399
You do realise the SW division has existed before the UFC created theirs?
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>>64692380
lmfao
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>>64692352
How often do you think Ariel gets this treatment?
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>>64692360
Oh I'm agreeing with you here, there just wasn't a clear date on the official UFC page so I couldn't tell one way or the other if he was right
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>>64692352
What's the name of this guy?
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>>64692443

Doofus McCuck
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>>64692443
Robin Black, does excellent, technical fight analysis.
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>>64692486

That's Areil Helweny, you idiot.
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>babby strikes mean more than significant strikes
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>>64692443

The cuck lord
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>>64692360
>The decision on Saturday is actually the only decision I can think off offhand where a fighter that was outstruck by that margin was awarded a win based on the damage they did.
Bendo vs Cerrone 3
Which Cerrone rightly won
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Who is this?
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>>64692412
He's a big guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSCN1groLak
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>>64692510
Sorry but MMA is point karate, it's not about hurting somebody it's about just tapping them to score points
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>>64692516

>Which Cerrone rightly won
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>>64692523
a literal faggot
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>>64692539
61% of Bendo's strikes were little taps to the thigh
That means about 46 of Bendo's 71 strikes were insignificant little foot taps.
It was only in round 3 where Bendo actually stepped up with some damaging hits, and that is the round he won
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>>64692534

>non-fighter
>hothead
>fat ass

I'd butcher him from thee bottom.
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>>64692534
rampage is such a cool guy
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>>64692510
listen dude, I'm not saying that's the way it should be, I'm saying that's the way it fucking is.

This is like if I said to you "dude, don't point a toy gun at the cops, that's fucking stupid" and then you reply
>it's okay to kill someone for having a toy gun

I'm telling you what the actual fucking rules actually are. I'm not telling you how I think they should be. You are stupid.

>>64692516
I do not think that had anything to do with damage done, because there was zero damage done by both fighters. Cowboy moved forward for a lot of the fight and had good octagon control too.
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>>64692534
So funny to see Luke Thomas spill his spaghetti around fighters, the Liam McGeary one in particular was funny.
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>>64692588
It was down to damage done, Bendo outstruck Cerrone by 30 strikes (which is significant for a 3 rounder) but most of his strikes were like Condit's- little love taps.
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>>64692567
>61% of Bendo's strikes were little taps to the thigh

The UFC website says 33%
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>>64692567
>little taps to the thigh
I bet you couldn't take more than 3 of Bendo's quirky thigh punches
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>>64692600
>It was down to damage done
neither of them did any damage
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>>64690955

>keep your chin up

That didn't help her last time
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>>64692380
If he did that to me I'd heem him. And I'd heem you too. I don't give a fuck that he was in the Salvation Army. I'd still beat his ass.

>>64692443
Colombian Cuck
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1451958577203.webm
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>>64692605
Those are live stats
>>64692629
He didn't do any thigh punches in that bout
>>64692642
Except they did, damage is naturally done by any impactful strike
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>>64692673
Well he's gonna have you on your arse, shoulders on the mat, legs wide. You're gonna have to heem him off your back. How many times has that happened in MMA history again? Twice?
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>>64692657
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>>64692696
>Except they did, damage is naturally done by any impactful strike
no damage was done in that fight by either fighter
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>>64692673
Is that from his Cuckshed?
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>>64692696
>He didn't do any thigh punches in that bout
o-oh
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>>64692693
Is another /heem/ memer a Joe Budden fan or is this line from somewhere else?
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>>64692712
Damage doesn't mean "broken nose" or "bloody face" you know right? A head kick doesn't magically phase out of existence because the opponent wasn't rocked by it.
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If you disagree with any of the following you don't understand MMA judging:

Jones beat Gus
DC beat Gus
Condit beat Lawler
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Conor vs Chad is coming up on FS1.

Rory was beating the shit out of Robbie at the end of the 3rd. Not sure how he didn't finish.
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>>64692725
>not knowing that that is a biggie line
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>tfw dad says you're still his boy
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>>64692738

Neither do you
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>>64692733
Right, the judges are making physics calculations in order to determine the actual impact of every strike thrown
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>>64692706
>Twice?
I just heemed someone this morning during sparring from the back. I do a worm guard where I move like a worm,shift,movement side to side angling to find that perfect punch. He kept hitting me hard, I gave it back. He was out. So would Luke.

>>64692713
I don't know if it's the shed but he said that room is in his house. It's the room he goes into when his wife has white men over.
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Do you think it'd be a wise decision to give up my life so I can move to California and stalk Paige?
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>>64692738
>DC beat Gus
How could you even argue against that? After round 3 most of the fight was Gus turning his back and running away
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>>64692763
But Rockhold is his man
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>>64692738
Jones did beat Gus
DC did beat Gus
Condit did beat Lawler

You are correct
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>>64692763
what an asshole, blocking the peoples views behind him
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>>64692791
word on the street has it that she has an alcohol problem
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>>64692788
Exactly, it's not a perfect system and relies heavily on some projection but it's logical to agree that generally an uppercut does more damage than a jab.
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>>64692791
probably would be a wise decision

>>64692796

>How to be a Man by Chris Weidman
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>>64692791
It's not like you've got anything better going on, right? I say go for it.
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>>64692725
>people remember Joe Budden
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>>64692793
I don't know how anyone could think that tbqh
I had it 2 and 2 going into the 5th but Gus did absolutely nothing in that round.
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>>64692803
>You are correct

water is wet
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>>64692793
Jogging away is a perfectly viable way of circling the cage. Look for more fighters to adopt that technique.

2-3-4 Gus
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>>64692819
Pay off the Herb so Rockhold batters you more?
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>>64692813
>but it's logical to agree that generally an uppercut does more damage than a jab.

That's not what you were arguing, though. This, ladies and gentlemen, is moving the goal posts.

You were arguing that, despite having no visible damage and no actual reaction from the fighter to imply that they were hurt, that judges score some strikes higher because they appeared to have been thrown with more force.
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>>64692809

>sit the fuck down ur ruining it for everyone
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>>64692845
Jogging away is an awful way to circle the cage.
You tire yourself out much quicker, lose a more demonstrated approach at cage control and can show your opponent your back

In fact that's probably Gus' biggest weakness and the reason why he is so close yet so far from a title.
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>>64692821
Being able to stand behind Paige in line at Starbucks is more important to me than my family. You're right.
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If Lawler/Condit went to Round 6, who would have won?
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>>64692872
>Trying to equivocate damage
Again, I said that damage is not a "broken nose" or a "bloody face" learn to read you stupid canacuck.
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>robbey
>condit won

It's about time to stop now. You're wrong and eventually you'll realize this.. the sooner the better for all involved.

Thanks. -Reel Fite Fans
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>>64692901
Lawler, Condit was getting destroyed in round 5.
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Some UFC fighters are catered to so fucking hard.

Andrei gets starched within a minute and he drops one spot to be tied with Overeem for third overall. Stipe moves up one spot to second.

Why did Arlovski leapfrog Stipe without even fighting?
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>>64692901
>green and gold shorts

Conor can even make Reebok cool.
>>
How /justbleed/ would it have been if Rory had died of blood inhalation?
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>>64692845

>4
>Gus
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>>64692910
And then you tried to pretend that you were implying that different strikes are worth more than others, rather than the same strikes being worth more than the same strike thrown with less force.

At the end of the round, the judges don't look down at their scorecards and they read
>one stiff jab
>five flick jabs
>one heavy jab
>two fast jabs
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Who will the champions be by the end of The Year of Our Lord and Saviour 2016?
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>>64692969
Different strikes are generally worth more than others, that is true, and the same can be said of same strikes thrown with different force or landing more effectively than others.
>At the end of the round, the judges don't look down at their scorecards and they read
No but they make a mental note of the damage the fighter did and give the round to that fighter
Hence why Lawler won
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>>64692901

Robbie would have ended Condits life
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>>64692966

He'd be our god in the afterlife.

I'd create an unholy shrine in my bathroom for him.
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>>64693009

No he wouldn't because he was just as tired.
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>>64692974
MM
Cruz
Edgar
RDA
Rory
Chris
Jones
and fuck it, Overeem
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>>64692974
>Rothwell
>Jones
>Rockhold
>Rory
>Beeb
>Pettis
>Snek
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>>64692974
125 will be Benavidez after MM vacates
135 Dillashit
145 Edgar
155 RDA
170 Lawler
185 Rockhold
205 Jones
265 Overlel
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>>64693003
>No but they make a mental note of the damage the fighter did and give the round to that fighter

No, they don't

hence why this is a fucking rarity and the vast majority of the time it goes to the guy who threw more volume
hence why GSP beat Hendricks
hence why Jones beat Gus

Refute those two examples bud.
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>>64692974
Jon Jones, Jon Jones, Luke Rockhold, GSP, McGregor, McGregor, Dillashaw, Rousey, Johnson, Gadelha.
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>>64693048
GSP and Jones both did damage to their opponents, with those fights it came down to the judging of damage in one equal round.
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>>64693081
with both of the fights the volume prevailed over the damage, and the damage was very lopsided
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>>64693128
The damage was only lopsided in their respective rounds that they won.
I don't know why you're even comparing these to Condit/Lawler anyway because that what makes that unique was that Condit was not actually throwing hard strikes whereas Gus/Jones/Hendricks/GSP were.
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>>64692901
Hard to say, Condit recovers quickly normally (like he did almost instantly in the second) but he was taking a beating. Lawler was gassed and probably would've remained pretty out of breath.
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>>64693128
Just jumping into the conversation here, but I think the usual judges rule-of-thumb of 'volume>damage' is just due to laziness, and the slowness of the human eye. There are plenty of times when a fighter wins a round on volume, and if you go back and watch it in slow motion you'll see that not even one punch connected.
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>>64692968
>literally outstruck Cormier
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>>64693176
yeah robbie is great at rolling and blocking with his arms/gloves
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>people are calling Robbie Robber Lawler
>fans are criticizing him for stealing the fight
>they blame him
>not the judges
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>>64693159
Those body kicks, the occasional leg kick as he swept across (most were nothing though), those elbows and a lot of those straight punches when he had his back to the cage or were in the pocket were visibly troubling Lawler. It's why he was wobblied multiple times or just backed off/was very hesitant to go after him as he had him on the fence during the fight.

Lawler's best moments were the end and him unloading hooks as Condit rushed in half of which didn't even hit. What I want to know is where his fucking jab went.
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>>64693159
>was that Condit was not actually throwing hard strikes whereas Gus/Jones/Hendricks/GSP were.


You were arguing that the more damaging strike is the worth more than the exact same strike that did less damage. GSP vs Hendricks is literal proof that fights are not scored that way. The vast, vast majority of controversial decisions stem from a fighter being awarded a decision based on volume rather than damage done. The entire idea of "winning the fight but not the contest" is what that is based on dude.
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>>64693246
I scored it for Condit but I'm actually glad Lawler got the dec. I do think Condit was doing actual damage, but it's rare to see judges give the lower-volume striker the decision, and Robbie was kicking ass in the last round.
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>>64693231
Which Rory exploited brilliantly with that headkick which put Robbie in trouble-ville.
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>>64693261
People just somehow come to the conclusion that Condit didn't do damage to Lawler, when Lawler is the one who looked way worse at the post fight conference.
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>>64693296
>and Robbie was kicking ass in the last round.

and the last 90 seconds of the fifth round

and nowhere in between>>64693317
>Which Rory exploited brilliantly with that headkick which put Robbie in trouble-ville.
yeah maybe right before he QUIT
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>>64693317
yup. another danger punch on robbie would be a GGG russian boxing hook to the body
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>>64693261
The times Condit landed hard strikes and hurt Lawler were the rounds he won (1 and 4) in all the others Lawler significantly landed more impactful strikes.
>>64693295
Except GSP did land hard shots
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>>64693349
Tumenov was ripping into Larkin's ribs that night too now that I think about it. Could you imagine Lawler vs Tumenov? I just did, and it gave me a stiffy.
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>>64693372
>I can measure an strike's damage and impact
Surveillance systems have improved so much
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>still more active than schaub
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>>64693416
Yes, it is based off a generalisation of strikes via their purpose and a specific feedback from certain strikes.

A much better way to judge a fight than
>Fighter A hit Fighter B with 30 thigh punches
>Fighter B hit Fightet A with 29 head kicks
>Fighter A wins
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>>64693372
>Except GSP did land hard shots

Judging by the fact that Hendricks was never hurt and after the fight looked like he was coming home from a date and not a fight

right?
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>>64693461
Which is entirely based on a fighter's ability to be cut, which is not the damage I am talking about.
How about you learn to read for once?
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>>64692974

Meme Mouse
Dominick Cruz
Jose Aldo
RDA
GSP
Romero
Rumble
Werdum
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>>64693372
He hit Condit with a few check hooks and a forearm. It wasn't that significant tbf to over rule the control and effective strikes that were nullifying Lawler the rest of the round.

>>64693317
Lawler's head movement was also exploited by Hendricks in the first fight when he was punting Lawler's leg as Lawler sat heavy on it after every exchange. If Lawler gets heem'd in the next year or so it's coming by head kick. I hope he doesn't, because whoever takes that WW belt after him will have nowhere near the amount of spicey bangers Lawler has.
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Kek

>Call out CM Punk
>I'm interested
>>
Anyone else think Jon Jones is going to lose?
>>
>>64693481
A few? After Condit's flying knee Lawler landed flush with 3 or 4 heavy hooks.
More than Condit did the entire round
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>>64693476
You got BTFO
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>>64693504

Cage rust is real. Anyone can lose.

That said, not to DC. AJ maybe.
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>>64693481
Unless Pigg Rigg makes weight, Rory gets another shot or Condit gets another shot I can't see anyone currently in the WW beating Lawler.
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>>64693448
>I can count every connection and target in real time
Seriously improved

Then again, I'm not visually 20/20, so I just watch exchanges and see who got the worse of it
>>
>>64693513
Great response, I will take that as a sign of concession.
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>>64693504
No?
>>
>>64693545
Woah, you mean there's a margin of human error in something? You're a genius.
I've rewatched the fight 3 times and I have given it to Lawler every time.
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>>64693547

"fights are scored based on damage inflicted and not strike volume" - some fucking retard
>>
>>64693591
Please read
>>64693448

Then answer
>>
New thread

>>64693571

>>64693571

>>64693571
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>>64693591

Condit didn't commit many of those kicks, most were half power at most. It isn't as simple as volume vs damage.
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>>64693612

lmao
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>>64693536
Tyron is getting his shot soon or perhaps Maia, Tyron is getting heem'd, Maia might be a nightmare if he can get it too the ground but he'll most likely just be heem'd.

>>64693509
7 or so check hooks and one combo that landed flush don't win you the round in my opinion m80.
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>Tell me right here how you're going to beat me
>I-i don't need to
>I'll do it right here I'm going to beat you because i'm better than yo
>I-i would have told you im going to knock your ass out
>How?
>D-dont worry about it
>>
>>64693685
TJ got verbally raped in that video
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>>64693625
>70 posts early
What the fuck are you doing
>>
>>64693661
Maia has awful takedowns as shown by the Gunnar fight, won't get passed Lawler's TDD.
Best he can hope for is a guillotine

And 7 or so check hooks does win you the round if your opponent throws very little of worth
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>Be Dana
>Look for a fight
>Find one
>He's now on Fight Pass Prelims
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>>64693685

>Why don't you talk?
>Because I don't need to.
>Why?

>Because I'm better than you Dominick and I'm going to prove it in the cage and shut your mouth once and for all.

>I think you're scared to talk because you don't want to say what you're gonna do because you're scared to eat your own words.

Listen, while you've been out I've been the best. I've learned everything you thought you knew and improved on it. You'll make a mistake and I will capitalize, that's what I'm gonna do.

>drop mic
>fucking dillashaw
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>>64693625
>legit 1 million posts early
Chill out bro. Let the thread his 520 posts then make a new one.

Also GSP beat Hendricks. I don't give a fuck about muh stats.

R1: GSP
R2: Hendricks
R3: GSP
R4: Hendricks
R5: Probably the most disgusting,faggot,riding the fucking bicycle I've ever seen.
>hurr durr I'm winnin welp just gonna leave it to the judges and let GSP hit me a bunch of times even though every time I punch GSP he does the stanky leg
>I'm down to drug test
>wait this is super duper drug testing that they can find shit even if I mask it with an IV's or agents
>nah I'm not down to drug test
>muh bicep
>I made wait Dole-che
>Imma fire Dole-che
>do I look like I been in a fight
>look at GSP and look at me who won?
>I'm glad I beat Robbie tonight?
>damage?
>deer meat
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>2016
>people still think pig rigg beat GSP
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>>64693625
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>>64691395
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>>64690812

>Sage Northcutt

Sage Northcutt vs Stephen Thompson is the fight I want to see. If one goes up or down a weight class. Would prefer to see at 170 though.
>>
>>64694297
Tip top lyl
>>
Hahaha are you all such post-event casuals that we have a new thread going already?

LMMFAO
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>>64693834
There's still no way GSP won round 1. None. Zero. Anyone think that he did is delirious.
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The GOATs, together at last.

Serious question, though - Will Rockhold ever lose? And if so, then to whom?
>>
is "spicy banger" the new supreme meme for 2016?
>>
>>64698187
I've only heard it on heemspeak.
>>
>>64698187
Fuck yes. All the SPICY BANGER spam during Prozacha/Nemkov and Poirier/Duffy had me literally writhing in my seat with laughter.
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New Fighter and the Kid: UFC 195 Review Edition

https://soundcloud.com/fighterandthekid/episode-113
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>>64698240
>the look on his face

you just know
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>>64688888
The time has come and so have I
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>>64698187
It's a 2015 meme though
>>
http://mmapain.com/dana-whites-ufc-looking-for-a-fight-episode-2-matt-serra-losses-it-once-again/
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453rd for Good Guy Conor.
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>>64699227
Now that I posted that pic I feel it necessary to explain that the girl is his niece. It's not just some random.
>>
>>64699242
That's exactly what he wants you to think
>>
heem literally killed itself
>>
>>64701275
Rip?
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How would you score the Lawler/Condit fight using the Road fc "Unlimited Points System"?
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>>64709852
how is the last a 10-8 for robbie is joe retarded? It was a draw for the first half condit was just outstriking him and the last half of the round robbie was beating him
>>
i live in abbot kinney if anyones looking for a fight
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