[Daily Bike Thread - /dbt/]

First for Harley a shit.

>>17756903
Second for indian just as bad

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Third for God bless Suzuki

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>>17756903
4th for BMW a best

Fourth for No American Products are good

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>>17756909
Including american posters

6th for confirming third

Nth for get contact lenses

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>mine tomorrow

cannot fucking wait

Nth to get proper eyes, you blind fucks

>>17756916
N+3th for they dry my eyes out

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>>17756908
#th for honda still running while you're getting your cuckbus system's issues worked out at a dealer

>but hans i only changed a lightbulb

>>17756920
Dailies are shit

>>17756924
#+1th for box'a'neutrals

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>>17756924
I find this ironic where the BMWs wrecked the TT while the Honda nearly killed Guy Martin
Also Canbus is the superior system Jap crap pleb

>>17756924
At least the gearbox has more gears than neutrals in a BMW

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>>17756917

>>17756926
I get weeklies and wear them for about 6 months.
I definitely going to go full blind at some point.

>>17756926
I found monthlies to be even worse

>>17756929
Toyotas dominated the last nascar race so my corolla must be the best car

say I wanted to get a motorcycle license.
what are some cheap motorcycles that aren't total crap and are under 260cc (laws learner permit riders from getting anything over 260cc except for some specific ones)

What would a bike from a non bike company look and be like.
Say mitsu or suburu made one, or a chevy or ford bike.
Well I guess a chevy or ford bike would just be harley.

>>17756941
Your analogy blows:
1. That bike is a super stock, and it holds overall section records (including over superbike).
2. The TT is on public roads which stimulates similar conditions faced by your everyday rider

Stay BTFO my man

>>17756944
I always wondered what a Toyota or Nissan bike would be like.
Imagine a GM or Ford bike, kek.

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>>17756929
>Canbus is superior look at how simple it looks! it has less stuff to go wrong!
>mode of operation is neither simple nor reliable
>mfw i splice a relay in for a simple USB accessory plug for $5 while you scour ebay for $50 modules to plug into your cuck electronics and shop around for expensive powerlet-to-whatever adapters

Like if you want more than one farkle just put in a second fuse box nigga.

if I wanted to win races I wouldn't care, but for a daily instead of a weekend warrior bike I don't want your engineer-autism pleasing nonsense.

>>17756917
You finally moved your sv, or you give up and finance it?

>>17756949
Nissan bike.
240 version of a bike, or a Juke version.
Mazda bike, with a rotary

>>17756940
I'd rather carry a bottle of eyedrops around than go back to glasses. My monthlies don't bother me unless I sleep with them in.
>>17756937
I know people who leave dailies in for a month, sleeping included. It's a horrible idea.

So you know when you've done something in routine for years and then one day an anomaly breaks that? Today I dropped my bike on my driveway because I forgot to take of my disk brake lock because my helmet strap decided to be uncooperative. Fortunately only the brake handle got bent but still. Because of a fucking misaligned d-ring.

>>17756959
It is a horrible idea.
I leave them in for months on end, sleep included. It's not that bad comfort wise. But as far as my eye health goes, just the worst. I'm also more susceptible to pink eye.

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>>17756957
>Nissan Juke motorbike

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>>17756944
>tfw no shapely performant T H I C C mitsubishi supersport

>>17756949
A toyota bike would be a yamaha engine in a really floppy chassis with a shitty suspension. However, some japanese street racers would mod it until it was sorta good and convince people that the stock bike was actually brilliant.

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>>17756968
With the nismo tune

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>>17756951
Oh man I sure do love antiquated rats nest of cables and fuses.
Meanwhile I can get aux light kits which integrate fully with the bikes, brakes, daylight sensor, high beam/low beam, and is programmable using the bikes own controls.

>>17756981
I don't see what's wrong with just putting a big fucking light on it and wiring up a new switch separate from the main harness, or putting it on the same switch as the regular high beam.

Oh wait you describe it with buzzwords like rats nest and antiquated so it must be bad

>>17756976
They made a Nismo Juke? WHAT THE FUCK?!

>>17756990
Yep, and apparently it was pretty good performance wise.

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>>17756986
>I don't see what's wrong with something which is objectively inferior, less controllable, and requires adding new controls to the bike

>>17756981
And I can build my entire cluster from one trip to (radio shack equivalent).

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>>17756995
>Money spending rider of justice

>>17756995
Because it's infinitely easier to work with as a home mechanic using readily available generic parts and you don't need that level of light control for anything but showing off to your friends

You don't have to add new controls either. Just use existing switches. It's not hard. Properly installed switches do not carry the load, they trigger relays and can trigger more than one relay.

>look guys the program has a disco lights setting
>party at my garage tonight

>>17756986
Having additional wiring running everywhere and mechanical fuses is antiquated my friend

>>17756981
This is some high quality b8

>>17757007
How is that meant to be a bad thing? There are very simple rules to follow so it's nearly impossible to fuck up and works fine, albeit strangley with minor fuckups, unlike cuckbus which can be thrown off and become inoperational by something as simple as using the "wrong" bulbs that would have still worked in a regular system.

Also, your shit is insanely expensive for shit as simple as adding lights.

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>>17757004
Oh man we should have stuck with analog projection too, because it's easier for the end user to repair.
Nevermind that it doesn't perform as well it's easier for me to tinker with!

>>17757003
>being poor

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>>17756917
Nice! Enjoy the bike anon

>>17757017
External functionality is a concern, and one separate from canbus. you can do plenty fancy shit with a traditional harness and fusebox system, just have the computers remote and close to the powered component, thereby making them easy to replace, add, or even... add to another bike!

How expensive and recent the internal wiring is of little consequence, until it breaks or needs to be modified/gutted for transplants and parts.

I guess BMW bikes are now leasemobiles meant to be owned as bone stock for a year and then traded in for the next model after two years

inb4 comparing this to carbs when EFI is as simple to deal with as a fucking blinker

As someone working with canbus at a professional level I can say I fucking hate the system, but it is nice to work with.

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>>17757017
In that it allows for the possibility of repair, yes.


....you are aware we're all supposed to be motorcyclists?

>>17756905
No

>>17757038
But you can repair canbus systems too. Just that you don't have the skills doesn't mean it's impossible

>>17757038
>you will never have a flying motorbike
feels bad man

>>17756942
Depends on the style,
Sport= ninja 250
Cruiser= rebel 250
Offroad= literally any four stroke 250, avoid chinese
Naked= ???

>>17756954
Yeah, it's gonna be picked up on Friday, but I got some cash from relatives to get my new baiku tomorrow already. Sold it criminally under value, but it was a good deed so I don't care too much.
Got a cornering training coming up and a 2 day tour right after, wanted to do those on the new bike already.

>>17757018
Thanks!

>>17757047
Never get a cruiser under 1000cc

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>>17757047
Naked; Nighthawk 250.


She's indestructible.

>>17757052
>sons of anarchy
Eww

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>>17757041
Build me a canbus. I want to see that shit on YouTube.

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>>17757056
You don't know real terror, child.

>>17757041
Canbus repair is as simple as any other repair. Bad wire somewhere making a light go out or whatever? Redo the connection. The solid state electronics themselves are unlikely to fail, but if they do, they can not be repaired unless you

A: take the time to go through the entire complex circuit (nobody does this) and hope to god you can source that one bad chip or faulty resistor, or that it's just an easy to spot blown capacitor
B: buy new electronics (triple digits in parts)

The only real disadvantages are that you need a fuse block for everything. You have to take your time and do a lot of routing through the entire bike instead of stuffing everything behind the front fairing in 15 mintues with a relay soldered to a bare spot on the low beam bulbs connector and a big fat wire with a fuse holder running straight to the battery. That would make the canbus system flip out.

>>17757060
Sure thing aspie

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>>17756924
Th for R1 the king

>>17757060
is that kanon matsubater from love dream: cinderella girls?

>>17757057
I said repair, that's different from making it.
I repair canbus systems at work sometimes, it's easy as shit.

>>17757061
You should always take your time repairing. The part that has failed might not be the part that caused it.

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>>17757064
Yamaha a shit. Blows up as soon as your warranty's out.

I'd rather own a Suzuki. At least then you can locktite a little longevity in.

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>>17757073
>mfw honda is just overpriced, slow suzuki

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>>17757073
>>17757080
>Jap shit
Yawn

>>17757093
>owning an unknown brand
kek

>>17757096
>Aprilia
>unknown

I hope you're just pretending to be a retard

>>17757093
>the most succesful italian brand uses japanese parts and design philosophy but with a blatant disregard for profit margins and buyer accessibility that the japanese could never bring themselves to have

Really makes you think

>>17757093
>#bearacer

>>17756944

I have always wished porsche would make a Superbike because ive been a lifelong fan of the 911s.

Also a Lamborghini bike, because I bet it would be mental.

>>17756944
I bet Mercedes would make incredible bikes.

>>17757107
they would just be BMWs but with more failure prone electronics and expensive parts. total money pits.

I wonder what an Aston Martin bike would be like

>>17757106
>porsche motorcyle
I wish this nightmare on no man

>>17757117

Gorgeous

>>17757119

Dont buy 928s or 944s (poorfagporschrs) and you wont have electronic issues.

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>>17757117
Probably like the new Norton V4 ss

>>17757117
Style, comfortable and made to cross the continent in a matter of hours

>>17757123
Not really bike related, but since you seem like you might know.
$8k usd too much for a 77 924? I feel like it is.

>>17757131

I wouldn't touch one with a 10 ft pole.

>>17757155
Ok, thanks.
Just saw one on craigslist that looked kinda cool. And don't know much about porsche other than they can be money pits.
Should probably go with the 65 new yorker I was looking at then.

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I want one nao

>>17757193
750CC 52HP
5
0
C
C

5
2
H
P

LMAO

>>17756929
>one rusty uncompetitive rider has one problem not seen before or since
>but because it's a meme rider at a meme race it represents its entire racing history
I didn't know Alphonse posted in dbt

>>17756974

We call that kawasaki

>>17757206
Guy martin also raced BMW and did well
He even raced older hondas and he did, predictably, well
It's just the new one that's reportedly shit

>also fuck you, guy is /ourGuy/

>>17757209
No, we call it Yamaha.

>guy martin
why do people care about a slowfag who can't talk straight?

>>17757211
Nah, Yamaha handles the best out of the japs AND they have the most complete electronics package, bordering on s1k territory

On the other hand Kawasaki has ktrc which is barely wheelie control, is ridiculously choked in street map and had to copy Ducati of all people for frame bracing

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>>17757217
He can't ride straight either.

How pigfat would a chrysler motorcycle be?

>>17757217
Fuck off mate
>>17757223
Just wait for the new automatic goldwing and instal a hand shifter

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How autistic would it be to only like someone because they have the same name as the best motorycle brand in history?

>>17757230
What, you mean Dunlop?

>>17756942
Honda crf250L

Note the L, this might be the best bike ever built.

Wrf250r can come too, but has been discontinued.

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>>17757210
He raced other bikes this year and wasn't impressive.

JSB is the only place they have real factory support (everywhere else it's just regional sponsorship) and they win there.

>>17757231
He must mean Suzuki.

>tfw you will never go to japan and take a qt suzuki wife
>tfw you will never name your son Grant Suzuki Xavier Richards in honor of your wife's maiden name and st. Francis Xavier

>>17757237
>dissin muh guy Guy
are you the fastest cyclist/hillclimber/motorcyclist/gravity racer AND river boater?

ride a kawasaki and do so PROUDLY

>>17757252
but make sure to stop by the shop every now and then, or you won't be riding a kawasaki for very long

>>17757258
if you've got something to say lad you just go ahead and say it

>>17757246
Why that saint

What are the best resources when it comes to performing bike maintenance yourself? I assume YouTube is high on the list.

>>17757266
no, your bikes workshop manual is the highest on that list.

>>17757247
I didn't say he was shit I said he was rusty

>>17757266
Workshop manual
Haynes manual
Bike specific forum

>>17757266
/dbt/

>>17757268
Step one of pmcs, make sure you have the tm

>>17757266
Manual plus youtube and you can figure pretty much figure anything out. Anything other than basic maintenance, big three resources are money, space, and tools.

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>>17757264
Because I need an excuse to shove an X in there or my son will be named after a slow piece of shit.

Honda guys have it easy

my bike has kind of a loose chain lurch and constant chain nose, but my chain slack is in spec and it doesn't pull away from the sprocket

what gives? is that normal?

>>17757280
Didn't even see the initials.
Funny.

You could just say you're a fan of the xmen.

>>>/wg/6998102

we had some anons post a lot of nice stuff, but pls contribute some nice pics if you got any

>>17757280
Hmm...
Charles Bronson Roberts
Would be pretty bad ass name.

>>17757289
And then he turned out to be a SJW warrior under the name of Carly

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I just Test rode this weapon and it was pretty cool

>>17757294
>name your son after a honda
>it turns out his brain is a box of neutrals

>>17757301
I didn't get a chance to Ride one yet, but i did have a CB650F in riding School, which to me lacked Character

>>17757301
>that swingarm

hirarious

is it worth getting a tail pack? The Oxford one looks really good but it's £89.99.

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>>17757297
>weapon
>er-6

>>17757329
pretty sure that's at least a z800 m8

>>17757347
I see 2 cylinders, i laff

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>>17757347
It's the Z650

>>17757329
>>17757347
It's a Z650, but it felt pretty damn good to me, considering I've been riding a pretty big shit bike for the last 2 years. Next up is an XSR900, that might change my perspective again

>>17757347
No mid range naked has regular forks post 2005.

>>17757362
You should compare that one to the z900 really.

Alternatively mt07 vs z650

>>17756895
Guy from previous thread, my dad got the Vespa GT200, I had a go on it today and it was quite different from my Ninja in terms of riding experience. Nowhere near as fast obviously but the acceleration is quite good for a scooter, the makes it sound boring as hell though because the engine makes a constant droning noise.

>>17757382
*the CVT makes it sound

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>>17757373
I'm not really looking at these bikes because I want to buy one straight from the showroom, I just want to ride a few new bikes because I just got my license

Devilish, I know. The bike I'll probably get is pic related, although I'm really liking the lower weight and more torque from these new bikes

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Fuck yes gentlemen.

Spokes are bast.

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>>17757425
>mgw kein gussradwichser

>>17756944
Subarau would make the next bike to win Dakar for the next thousand generations

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>>17757442
>subaru
>in charge of motorcycle design
ill admit it looks cool.

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>>17756944
Fuji Heavy Industries (subaru. because everything in japan is something heavy industries.) actually made a bike once. It was complete shit and 80% chinese parts. Literally nobody bought it. It was quickly forgotten.

>60% chance of rain the whole day
y/n dbt?

>>17757486
would you try a crit-build with a 40% crit rate?

fuck yes go for it

>>17757486
y

rain isn't that bad, it just means you can't get hektik

only bitch boys dont ride in the rain

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>>17757490

Agree'd

>>17757491
ironically, modern liters with high quality electronics packages are better bikes for rain riding than shitty beginner bikes, so it's manly men on brand new supersports who show up in the rain while all the scared kiddos stay home

>faggot: m-my gs500 doesn't have ABS or traction control, i don't want to learn how to drift it yet i'd probably crash
>r1 rider: WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>17757489
I'm a loser not a nerd.
>>17757490
The issue is that I have class and then work.

>>17757509
>his r1 has 2 inch wide chicken strips the post
i bet even drobe would beat you on the touge in the rain on a gs500 even if he did run into a truck.

ride my shitbike 250 in the rain and cold all the time
gotta slam the idle up to atleast 2k otherwise it stalls when i stop
cleaned the carbs and everything, she's having none of it
probably be right if i let it warm up for half an hour

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>>17757516
i don't have an R1 but it sure would be great

i promised myself i wouldn't buy anything actually nice until learning good wheelie control, scraping my knees without crashing, and using the whole tire with enough frequency to have solid wear instead of those spotty "i leaned once" chicken strips

once i meet my own criteria crossplane R1s will be sub-$5k on the used market so it's okay

What 2018 models have been revealed so far? Harley's will be tomorrow and I saw Indian posted a few. Has Moto Guzzi or Triumph shown theirs yet?

>>17757497
So sexy

>>17757532
It isn't 2018 yet stupid burger

>>17757536
oh woops haha

>>17757527
>once i meet my own criteria crossplane R1s will be sub-$5k on the used market
keep dreaming

>>17756942
>except for some specific ones
Have a look at your laws, Royal Enfields are reliable and pretty much haven't changed their design much from the shit they used to produce in WW2. They are legal for learners all throughout Australia.

Basically British standards, using Indian labour. Its a win-win and you get a durable, easy to tinker with bike with many available spare parts and accessories for a very low for any comparable vehicles (Well maybe not the Chinese knockoff brands)

>>17757536
MFW I always try to discuss bikes with all you no-bikes. One day I'll learn my lesson, Europoor

>>17757537
>>17757543
bipolar mate?

>>17757543
>"MFW"
>no image attached
fuck off newfaggot

>>17757550
>>17757552
really don't know what you expected from another yank who simply cannot handle the bants

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I'm still learning. Are these chicken strips?

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Can I buy a half decent bike for 500€? If so, which ones?

>>17757538
>started riding literally two months ago
>mid 20s
>implying i'm not going to take years to get consistently gud

fuck it, let's sell the R3 and buy a daytona.

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>>17757563
no those are red arrows

>>17757563
>>17757568
i'll tell ya but it'll cost ya

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>drive cars for over 10 years
>never really like it
>absolutely fucking hate fixing or maintaining em
>get a 50cc manual moped due to boredom
>get hungrier
>get license and 600cc bike
>absolutely fucking love motorcycling
>start to get into fixing and maintining it
>love doing that shit too

still hate driving cars and fixing em tho, what gives

>>17757574
I am willing to pay

>>17757552
no just lazy. You can assume it was a face of sad resignation though.

>>17757574
Sent 0.0001 BTC :)

>>17757563
ye

>>17757563
yes

dont worry about removing them, only faggots here care about that

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What phone mount do y'all niggas use?

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/woodvale/motorcycles/1993-wp-gsx-r-750/1154343481

Or?

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/albany/motorcycles/kawasaki-zx750r-2000-model/1157097314

>>17757621
i mount your mom

>>17757621
tank bag

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>>17757563
no this is the chicken strip

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>>17757621
RAM mount x grip

>>17757625
Fugg right off doubleyou are

>>17757621
Pocket in pants

>>17757581
Cars were built so that even the weak could become adventurers and travelers. Keeping them safe from the elements and letting them cover large distances with little effort. Everything about them screams "SAFE"

Motorcycles, on the other hand, thrust you back into the world and all of it's dangers. From thunderstorms to shitty road conditions and it's up to you weather you survive it or not.

Motorcycles are for the strong, cars are for the weak. That feeling you are experiencing is the call to greatness

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So real talk right now

Do modern bikes (as in 2016 and upward) with ~80 hp feel as good acceleration and handling wise as bikes from 2004-2008 with ~100hp?

>>17757645
no

hell no

80hp bikes are exclusively cheap beginner shit now with garbage frames and heavy shit steel boxes for swingarms

>>17757645
Most 80hp bikes now are heavy as fuck and have a very linear, boring power band

So no

>>17757645
No. And the reason is invasive electronics. ABS is fine, not the rest.

>>17757645
Define what you think good means.
Under most circumstances you'd never notice any new fangled traction control riding on pavement. The actual throttle response isn't going to be any different, its not like fly by wire systems are exponentially faster now. Aside from just a couple high end bikes theres nothing out there with a radically new suspension.
You're still just dealing with an engine and transmission for the majority of ride characteristics apart from the suspension and tires.

>>17757650
most still manage to weigh under 195 kg wet though, like the mt07

>>17757653
what would you describe as an exciting powerband (no snark)?

>>17757654
I think most bikes in that range don't even have any more electrics than ABS and maybe an alarmsystem

>>17757635
It's funny, to drive a car today you must wear a seatbelt, it must be full of airbags, it must be full of crumple zones, it must have body work shaped to protect peds and they are more and more full of electronics that literaly drive the thing for you.

To ride the biggest badest cock rocket you can buy you must wear one of these.

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>>17757676
>one of these

>>17757666
I mean good as in agile, good cornering and reasonable speed/acceleration where you don't have to wait until 14k to hit the powerband

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>>17757671
>what would you describe as an exciting powerband (no snark)?

Exciting:
Black
Orange

No soul, no passion:
red, green, blue, yellow

Too much soul and passion:
Light blue

>>17757683
Those characteristics don't really rely on any electronic systems. Cornering is all about the wheel base, fork geometry, rider position. A good motor and gear box will always feel fast and responsive throughout. Things haven't changed much on the consumer market over the past 10 years.

>>17757563
Yes.
post cb400

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>>17757684
yes, I have to agree, I'd definitely consider supersports exciting

Unfortunately, that's out of my range right now. I was more thinking about the Suzuki GSR600 or even the CB600F4i (not the RR)

>>17757687
Interesting. I would have thought that frame development would have advanced in the last 10 years

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>>17757563
Yeah thems tenderloins.
you need to get some sand paper and rub them off so you can be street rossi on online forums.

>>17757704
The trickling down of bleeding edge race tech to consumer bikes is pretty slow. Besides when it comes to computational models of frame flexing and how it affects ride quality, they aren't done at street speeds. Riding on a street you have a magnitude lower forces to contend with than on a superbike track, so there isn't a huge motivating factor to bring that to the consumer.

>>17757704
Just buy the fucking ducati

And no, frame development doesn't happen to cheapo non-sportbikes because it's a waste of money and drives costs up for reasons the customers don't care about.

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>post in facebook group
>looking to buy a dual sport/sumo
>specifically say "supermoto" and "450cc" and my price range
>someone messages me their R1 that's out of my price range
>mfw

Why do people lack basic reading comprehension...

>>17757716
This or actually learn to corner for maximum self enjoyment.

>>17757704
>>17757722
You just have to look at non japs
You can tune the frame on the rsv4 like you would tune an instrument...
Vyrus makes literbikes that weigh like scooters

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>>17757728
idk, why do people put road tyres on a dirtbike without doing the full conversion?

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>>17757716
Like NakedAnon?

>>17757725
>>17757722

>Just buy the fucking ducati
what ducati?

and what you guys say definitely makes sense, I'll definitely consider that when I'll keep on looking for a new bike

>>17757734
>You just have to look at non japs
I wish the Japs would make a bike like the Aprilia shiver

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>>17757747
who is NakedAnon?

>>17757737

For fun? For being able to put your other set of wheels on and go on dirt?

>>17757756
Speed triple Anon
Zach

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do i save money and buy an alpinestars / dainese suit or go buy a spidi/ixon now?

Ixon is the cheapest, any 1 got experiences with this brand

>>17757764
buy held

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>>17757756

>>17757764
they have good reviews all round according to google.
regularly gets 4.5-5 star ratings from reviewers.

>>17757769
lol didn't even get his knee down

>>17757748
Wat
Just get an SV
Stock for stock they have the same power to weight
They both can swap suspension with a gsxr/RSV should you want to upgrade
The only real advantage the Aprilia has is it can be made considerably lighter

>>17757769
im disappointed by the fact that he wasnt completely naked.

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>>17757776
Go ride naked on a naked bike and get your knee down and post webm

>>17757780
Me too ;)

>>17757779
the SV1000 is so fucking rare here though, I could probably save up for an Aprilia while I look for a Suzuki lol

>>17757737
T. Man who hasn't ridden a sumo

>>17757794
>sv1k
Then get an RSV
>liter
>based rotax will outlast anything japscrap
>powerwheelies in third
>great suspension
Just invest in a battery tender and don't abuse the rear brake

How long do wheel bearings last? Are they worth replacing on a 25 year old bike?

>>17757801
Do you feel the wheels dragging somehow?

>>17757797
No point to a sumo where i live, sumos are for city people that want to pretend to be dirt bike riders and act cool

>>17757799
wait I'll just go and get my money shitter

>>17757765
in the shops where i buy held isnt much cheaper and desu im not a fan of the brand

>>17757772
thanks anon, i cant imagine that they are too bad seeing as they are in motogp


also what do you guys think of berik and arlen ness?

>>17757824
false, Held makes the best stuff around

delet your post

>>17757769
where is this? austria?

>>17757829
do these road marks look european?

>>17757811

Projecting much? It's fun as heck to ride a sumo. Why get mad at folks for enjoying riding? Live and let me mane

>all these 650 cucks going on about their shitbike
>meanwhile my 1200 satisfies me for now

>>17757837
because nine out of ten sumo riders don't give a shit about cornering and just act like faggots

>muh wheelies brah
>it's drop proof brah
>i can ride over curbs brah
>i skidded the rear at a stoplight brah lets see you do that on your 400 tonne gixxer brah
>the ultimate hooligan machine brah

this also applies to groms to some extent, for some reason

>>17757848
What bike fag.

>>17757848
>implying you'd ever push a 1200 to near it's limits.

>>17757848
le funny bandit 1200 man

>>17757764

Spidi isn't bad, just a bit lairy.

>>17757848
That 1200 is a completely different machine. At some point you want something smaller next to it.

>>17757816
>i'll put on my money hat and...
Look, RSVs are cheap af
>>17757824
Arlen ness the guy is pretty nice, his ducati build was pretty enjoyable
The sponsored suits i have no idea, but i wouldn't mind one
>>17757848
His 1200 has less power or torque than my 750

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>>17757854
I did as I was touring around Scotland

>>17757852
no bully the top speed isn't that high 130mph I think but the torque is incredible

>>17757621
RAM X grip

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>>17757868

>>17757864
>1200
>less torque than a 750

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>>17757854
It's not difficult to do so

>>17757863
And this guy is right, I'm definitely considering something smaller to go with this.
Thinking dirtbike, with a set of street and dirt tires.

>>17757868
>I did as I was touring around Scotland
Do you even know what a limit is? That bike can do more than you might think. Scraping cylinders is normal.

>>17757871
i just checked specifications and hes talking shit I have nearly twice the torque he has.

>>17757851
>for some reason
what part of city people trying to act cool don't you understand?
city people are the only people that own a grom.

>>17757882
Which bikes were you comparing.

>>17757874
>pushing a fucking bandit to its limits

because it has many
because its a shitbike

>>17757868
>telememer
>shaft drive

Do you even lean?

>>17757851
Just that one line skidding at a stoplight
I did that on my 500lbs bike. It's definitely possible on any bike.

>>17757904
Shafts are better than chains and belts.

>>17757905
No you can't, you need a super light sumo with infinite grip brah. Your pigfat poser bikes can't compete. And it's faster in the twisties brah. Just ask someone who can actually ride. I don't do that it's too dangerous and wheelies slow you down.

>>17757900
I said it's not difficult.
It's an awesome shitbike tho.
Cheap as fuck, easy to work on, still a lot of power, can lean pretty ok, and very comfy.

>>17757909
nay

>>17757897
im guessing he's talking about the Z750. I have an R1200R

Have fun sinking into the earth every time you brake and then having to spend an hour adjusting your filthy chain when you get off the bike.

>>17757911
>too weak to control a larger bike

I can read the sarcasm, but that's kinda my thought

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>>17757920
No brah, sumo bros are alpha males.

Sportbike fags quiver and put their butts up in the air like the gay little anime girls they wish they were when a hulking mass of man meat like THIS rolls into town cornering harder than they could ever dream of with a 400cc single cyllinder.

>>17757916
'scuse me, you said something about pushing it to the limits. But no telelever will keep your bike straight at the limits. That rear wheel will come off the ground.

>>17757916
You definitely have more torque then.
I compared my bandit to a gsxr, which has roughly the same torque.
I just picked the first 750 that came to mind.

>>17757927
>a hulking mass of man meat like THIS
Sorry, couldn't keep my laughter in. That's too hilarious.

>>17757916
>not having full adjustable Öhlins fork and mono
>not knowing the joy of perfectly oling and tensing your X-ring chain every 1000 km.

>>17757927
I'd fuck that guy.
He'd have to wear a dress tho.

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>>17757927
holy shit, that guy must roll in bitches every night

pic related

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>>17757927

>hulking mass of man meat

>>17757929
>That rear wheel will come off the ground.

That happens to every bike braking hard. I do fuck up stoppies into the slow corners pretty much every lap, even with a bit of rear brake thrown in prior to settle the front down.

>>17757980
The telelever system is supposed to negate that and usually keeps the bike firmly placed on the ground. Only when breaking properly hard will the rear actually lift

>>17757829
North Carolina, usa

>>17758008
Not to be confused with North Carolina, Russia

>>17758008
>usa

wtf i thought north carorina was in japan

>>17757980
>every lap
wow ur so cool dude

>>17757980
Listen scrub, if you're braking that hard you can't corner. I don't need to brake hard for slow corners. Slow corners are called slightly less fast corners to me, and I power wheelie out of every apex.

>>17758008
you could have just said USA

>>17757848

>sportster faggots think this.

>>17757999
The fuck you on about, memelever tries to reduce front dive

>>17758092
yeah because 70% of america isn't flat farmland

>>17758122
you're right, it's 95%

>>17758092
>>17758030
>>17758020
Fucking sperg samefag

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>>17758137
try again mr. fat man

>>17758119
Reducing dive == less lifting rear

>>17758137
The joke


Average consumer airplane cruise height


Your head

>>17758194
No
So much no

>>17758194
no, not really. Weight will transfer to the front whether the forks compress or not.

Site for Romanian bike classifieds?

>>17758286
Ask your local Gypsies?

>>17757927
>CJ wishes he was this manly

>>17757624
Bumping

>>17758286
Dutch classifieds + €200 for a random thief.

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What is the best sport touring bike?

>>17757909
>shafts are heavier than chains and belts

fty

>>17758303
R1200RT

>>17757916
hes talking about the shiver of course.

Im the guy with the Z750 and i dont give a fuck about torque because i live the 5 digit RPM lifestyle.

>>17756895
Moving soon to another state. Can bring my bike with me but might sell it for extra cash.

2000 929rr. Should I sell to upgrade next season to something a little new or keep it?

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>"engines" that displace less than 750cc
>"engine configurations" that aren't I6s, V5s, I4s, V4s, I3s, V3s, or V2s
>"motorcycles" with steel tube cradle frames and dated wrong-side-up forks
>"brakes" that don't have two discs up front and 6 pot calipers minimum
>"final drives" that aren't chains and sprockets
>"rear suspensions" that aren't a monoshock with a linkage
>"aftermarket pipes" not made in the bike's country of origin
>"gear" that isn't high quality leather or $2000 all-weather 6 gorillion denier goretex ballistic supertex armorthread textile
>"helmets" that cost less than $400

i. shiggy. diggy. pigii.

>>17758303
Turbobusa.

>>17758319
I have all of these. What do I win?

>>17756951
CANBUS also exists to reduce manufacturer cost. Since most bikers barely use their machines, they'll be long out of warranty when problems crop up so that's not an issue.
Modern riders don't work on their own machines so bikes need not be designed for owner servicing. Owners should pay a mechanic like myself and stick to mods like beaded seat cushions and anime stickers, which I'll also install (for money). Eventually motorcycles should be sealed electric units welded shut and with automated data links (Onstar on steroids) for complete factory and law enforcement monitoring, update flashes and troubleshooting. As Germany proves, complete bureaucratic control of society is a universal good. A TASER net could prevent unlawful modification by simultaneously shocking chassis intruders and frying the ECU. Police department coordination should regulate ECU replacement. Advanced electronic ride-by-wire could provide enhanced safety within anti-hooning parameters and detect hooning via cameras plus blackbox data retention and streaming to Traffic Informatics Fusion Centers.

Cultural enrichment buses prove total government control of driving, riding, bicycle and pedestrian traffic necessary. Think of the children!

>>17758325
An empty wallet and no gf

>>17758325
A lifetime supply of crippling depression.

>>17758319
i dont think there is a V3 engine that displaces more than 500CC

>>17758331
>>17758340
Shit I knew I shouldn't have listened to those condescending anime girls on /dbt/

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>>17758348
Two strokes are exempt from displacement shaming as a universal rule. Even a 125cc two stroke is faster than a 600cc four stroke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0STBzr75XzQ

>>17757230
Hyosung?

>>17757270
These. Youtube videos are helpful but you have to be able to sort out bullshit from gud, which is why the listed resources are best.

I don't recommend non-factory manuals unless no factory books are available.

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>>17758361
>tfw no RS250 to smash liters, 600s, sumos, and 250/300s on the touge with

>>17757280
Inflicting stupid names on your biological mistake will make them hate you forever, which you deserve if you do that.

Choose a name to enhance his career and social prospects. Name pets stupid shit.

>>17758393
>downhill
see you at the top of the hill kiddo

>>17758394
good idea.

>Be native american
>name your son Small Italian Two Stroke Scours The Togue For Scrubs On Liters, or "smits" for short
>Everyone makes way for the alpha male of the century

>>17758319
What if the aftermarket pipes are a factory option from the OEM? I know BMW does this with akrapovic and the 2017 s1000r

>>17757581
Your reaction is normal. Cars are horrible to work on compared to bikes (and trucks).

Ride on. You got enlightenment early.

>>17758416
Cars are comfy to work on. They are crude and simple.

>>17758424
That's bikes. It's an engine held up by a minimalist metal oval with everything else bolted to either the engine or the metal oval.

>>17758424
I'm a mechanic and unless you only work on ancient shit cars are neither crude nor simple compared to motorcycles. Modern car engine compartments were designed for ease of assembly, not maintenance.

I like getting paid to work on cars, but the owners dry any tears of exasperation with their delicious money. OTOH there are no similarly complex bikes, not even bloated touring pigs.

Show us a simple, crude car made in the last ten years.

>>17758393
how bout a 500CC single?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBCYS4tK-5c

>keep my biking a secret
>go to friend's party
>thought it would cool to show up on my bike and surprise the people I haven't seen since school
>they don't care and think im a fucking weirdo freak poser

>>17758303
vfr 800.

>>17758593

JETZT NEUES
JETZT NEUES
JETZT NEUES
JETZT NEUES
JETZT NEUES

>>17756917
fucking hideous bike.

Hold me /dbt/. The R1 I was lurking on sold a few days ago.

>>17756895
can you restrict a Z900 to A2?

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Let's see if this pic didn't end up being Australian...

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>tfw you buy a cruiser but spend your time looking for dirt roads

I love this little turd but I can't rip it down the serious trails without smashing it to bits. I'm a month into ownership and yet I'm still dreaming of an affair with a TW200.

Fug me, I may just go full retard and scrambler this thing