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>tfw no air-cooled gsxr750

you done goofed, son

>>17182020

Who here meets riders off blackpeoplemeet.com

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Socal meet W H E N?????

I wanna see u fuccbois

>>17185527
ur mum

>>17185527
ur dad

what bike should i get 2 get a qt gf?

>>17185559
GROM

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>>17185527
>post Busa

>>17185559
any old looking step through scoot. Just be prepared for her to only pretend to love you to get close to it.

>>17185559

Doesn't matter, 99.99% of women don't give a shit what bike you have. Get one that a woman would think looks sporty.

>>17185607
But if you think about it, it's the women in the .01% that you'd really want to impress.
If a woman knows her bikes, that's pretty god damn sexy.

>>17185559
MV Agusta F4CC

>>17185559
wr 125

>>17185622

Well then you get a bike that is genuinely good. But then if you're trying to impress that woman, it's not the bike that you're riding that'll impress them, it's your riding. Get a decent bike and become a good rider.

>>17185564
>>17185631
he said gf not bf

>>17185662
see >>17185631

>>17185665
thats a fags bike no women would fuck a 125 fag

>Open track day, full leathers required = $100
wew

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>>17185671
>no women would fuck a 125 fag

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>>17185671

>>17185632
So it really all boils down to the rider not bike.
So you should buy a something you like and can get good on.
Fuck bitches, get money.

>>17185702

To impress a genuine female biker yes. Otherwise, just get a glitzy brand like a Ducati or something.

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>tfw close my eyes when drifting off to sleep
>tfw see the lane split stretching away in front of me

huh that's kinda neat

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>>17185710
That's pretty much how I do everything.
I do it for me. Fuck bitches, cause they be triflin.

>>17185559
We have 4 girls in our local whatsapp riding group, 3 of them ride sumos, one a ninja300
So get a 690 sm covered in stickers

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>>17185466
>Motorcycle Questions & Answers

I know the Ninja 650 and the SV650 are both commonly recommended intro bikes, but I when I realized just how similar they are, I started getting curious about their differences and the implications those could have for someone choosing between them.

here's what I see so far:
>sv slightly more tucked than ninja
>ninja has banana seat, sv has separate
>sv has 90 degree v-twin, ninja has parallel twin
>sv makes a little more hp (70 to 64?) and so has a bit more top speed (130 to 135 mph?)
>sv is 30 lb lighter (437 to 465 lb)
>sv has 50 more miles of range and a little better mpg
>ninja is fully faired, sv has bikini fairing or naked (think there might be a naked ninja but don't think it's sold in the US)

the torque seems about the same, and which one looks better basically comes down to how you feel about fairings I guess.

which one would you pick if you had the money and the choice? It seems to me like the SV pretty much cleans things up - but then again, people buy and ride cruisers, so maybe I'm missing something. How big of a difference is the engine configuration?

>>17185733
Normie girls would think thats just a cheap dirtbike.
>Key Tee Em? Is that Korean? Like KIA?

>>17185758
get a litter so we don't need to answer your questions anymore

>>17185760
>american women

>>17185758
I don't know about the newest models, but I've ridden older naked versions of both and they're honestly pretty identical. I like the SV better because
1) carbed ones are cheap as fuk
2) I don't like the look of the exposed shock on the Ninja

But if I had found a Ninja 650 first I'd probably be happily riding that now.

Talk me out of getting a small, lightweight, good handling, good in traffic, steady at 60 MPH, nimble, lithe, bike guys.
I want a ninja 300 winter test edition. Ktm 390 looks good too.

>>17185881
It's shit

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>>17185881

>>17185881
Ktm 390 is a meme bike that redditors buy

Don't get it

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>>17185881
the previous generation 390 Duke had some heat and quality problems. It seems like they fixed some of those problems with the new generation and added a really cool color dashboard.

Paging MI fag with yellow gsxr
Hey neighbor.

>>17185936
>cool color dashboard
sounds like straight outta marketing
fuck off punjabi

redpill me on the wr500

Anybody know where I can find the ground wires on a bandit 650 SA k5? Trying to find out why the electrics are totally dead, managed to find only the main ground (or earth) and have no idea where the others are connected, like the gennerator, carbs ones etc.

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>>17185758
I bought the SV650s this winter, it's my first year riding

I love it, I store my insurance and registration in the pillon seat, although the seat may also come off on the ninja, I haven't rode one before though.

The seat even on the S version is comfy enough to ride on for an hour and a half at a time, although I'm looking at clip-on risers eventually. The position is upright enough, but I tend to ride up close to the tank. The only problem is on 1.5 hour+ rides the seat hurts my 6'0" 140 lbs ass.

$2,600 for a 2005 and it's plenty fast and maneuverable to keep me happy for a long time. Cheap insurance and a very versatile bike.

>>17185760
>flashy looking bike with "cool brand" sickers
>chad is riding it wearing a cool hoodie/ jersey with bodyarmor underneath, looking like a footballplayer

I guess they wouldn't even care if it's a ktm, yamaha or suzuki, as long as it looks like "badass" toy from a gang-movie

>>17185971
Don't get risers you will not feel sporty enough. Go hit some turns

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>>17185950
How many other bikes in the Duke's price range have a color dash? The damn things probably aren't even that expensive, but manufacturers insist on putting shitty 2 color dashes in instead. Even Moto Guzzi managed to do something interesting with theirs by putting Bluetooth on the V7 III so you can hook your phone up to the bike.

>>17185995
who the fuck gives a fuck about a color dash?

>>17186000
I could see some practical uses for it that you couldn't get from a monochrome one

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well fuck, after so many attempts of fixing this mess my chain guard finally broke off. Both fixing points gone and the only solution left seems to be welding.

guess ill just ride without one and test some different chain lube that hopefully sticks better.

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>>17186000
Given how many of them have showed up on the top end bikes, I would say that a fair number of consumers care.

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Getting a new back tyre for my vtr 1000,

120/70, 17

Pirelli a good choice?

>>17186034
git a bridgestone S20 or 21

>>17185758
they are so similar you buy the one you like the look of.

I got the ninja, brand new. cheap bike, fully faired made it comfy to ride on road trips with a pillion wearing no gear.

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>>17186026
at least it changes colors in the dark...

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>>17186051
>ABS
>On a dualsport/supermoto

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What do you guys think of the TR 650 Terra?

>>17186036
Good all rounders I guess?

>>17186051
how hard is it to see that speedo when your riding?

>>17186066
more like roads oriented sports tires.

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>>17186057
kinda cute but the Nuda outshines it by lightyears

>>17186076
neat, getting the s20, cheers

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>>17186057
Wouldnt mind one for myself.
Sexy looking bike.

>>17186056
thats exactly why the button is there tho, so you can turn disable it at will.

plus you get an insurance discount for having abs. evens out the extra cost.

>>17186036

The S20 is a great street tyre. You've got to run lower pressures in them than the pirellis (firmer sidewall), but once you figure out what's working you get better grip from them.

>>17186034
>120/70

Did you say back tyre?, that sounds like a front to me

I also recommend a Bridgestone S21, they stick like chewing gum in hair

>>17186087
yeah sorry, 180/55 for the back

Where do we get tyres? was about to use http://www.blackcircles.com

>>17186078
what are maintenance intervals like on a bike like this?

>>17186087
S21 is really expensive doe, the S20 isnt all that worse, features the same 5 compound tech and is a lot cheaper to get.

>>17186091

If you're going to run the s20 (more likely the s21, not many s20s left), run a 190/55 instead if you've got the space/it'll fit your rim. Handling will be better, the 180 will be a bit twitchy.

>>17186100
like on any other i guess? Its a modified version of the BMW F800 engine.

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>>17186074
not hard at all

>>17186102
the sidewalls aren't designed for this shit and reduces stability
ive tried it and the tire felt wobbly under brakes and coming out of corners unless you jacked the pressure up to the point it just felt too hard and lost grip

>>17186102
>Handling will be better

not really. It will be more stable and get more grip (as if youd need that) but harder to handle.

>>17186101
They are expensive but its worth it for the grip

I never had a set of S20's but went straight to the 21's as i read that the 20's were good but wore quickly in the middle of the tyre and that the 21 is the same tyre but more durable in the middle

Alright. 91 CBR1000, 01 R6, or 97 GSXR750 SRAD as a track bike? I'm talking strictly track, no street riding.

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Whats the difference between R, R G and R J?

>>17186121
>the sidewalls aren't designed for this shit and reduces stability

If the tyre is too big for the rim, yeah. If it's not, then it's fine. Check your rim size and the bridgestone guide.

I did a 120/70 180/55 and a 190/55 and the latter combination just works out better. One of the tyre guys reckoned a 120/60 if you go the former, but I never bothered.

>>17186134

They're all honestly a bit long in the tooth unless you're racing pre-modern.

Consider some of the pre-2010 bikes, the r6s cost, but you can pick up gsxr750s for cheap now that they aren't in a competitive class anymore.

are there any street leather jackets with a back protector reaching all the way to the bottom?

>>17186135

If you're not sure what tyre is best suited for your bike use this checker, if you're bike is on the list it will say which is the proper size

http://www.bridgestone.ie/moto/

>>17186134
R6 or the GSXR
R6 is newer and might be a bit easier to get things for but it depends on the condition of each

>>17186148
a track bike and a race bike serve different purposes
I would look at it as a learning platform rather than a competitive machine and 90s sports bikes still offer a lot of quality, they're not as fast as a modern sports bike but they're not exactly slow

>>17186161
yeah ive got the proper size, i have options between R, R G and R J. Don't know the difference between them

>>17186173
>I would look at it as a learning platform rather than a competitive machine

Then you'll want something more modern. The older ones will throw mechanical issues at you to boot, which you don't need when you're learning to go fast.

>>17186135

R just means "radial" which is how its built internally.

not sure but i think the J and G variants are meant for specific bikes, probably the tires they are sold with.

>>17186160
how would you sit then you retard

>>17185672
that's pretty cheap. I've never seen any for less than $250

>>17186193
So my thinking is that I'd like to be going to 5-6 track days this summer and I want a cheap way into it, there's no way I'm taking my FJR1300 on the track. I'm completely fine with mechanical stuff and I'd be doing a full inspection/service before and after every excursion. Was just curious which might be the best option. I think I'll go with the r6.

>>17186194
This. RJ tires are Yamaha R6 original equipment. Don't know what RG stands for. Beats me whether there's a difference to the regular R tires though.

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>>17185672
>>17186222
>americans

>>17186223

If you can't wait to save up and you're just going to go out and buy, take a look at the gsxr750. The SRADs aren't as pretty but they're solid, and the 750 will be more fun at the track.

>>17186224
mite be for the Gixxer.

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>>17186236
>wanting to ride on a crowded glorified country road full of crazy bimmers for $27 a lap, adding up to $110 per continuous hour of riding, plus waiting at the entry toll booths for half an hour every time

what style of music is always playing in Russian videos (dashcam especially)?
Techno? or what?

>>17186236
>170cm
Stop posting please

>>17186246
>waiting at the entry toll booths for half an hour every time
that's not how it works tho

>>17186249
Russentechno

>>17186134
none of those

>>17186223
You can get something a generation newer with EFI and slightly better components elsewhere if you look at 2001+ CBR600s or 2003+ for the other 600s.

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>>17186257
hab i mir gedacht, aber kann ich beim Radio nicht suchen.

>>17186254
>170cm
talkin bout my dikk? :-------DDDDDDDDD

>>17186260
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3tQcTLvphs

How cold is too cold for 130whp super sports on the road

>>17186236
That looks terrible. We can get that level of riding for free just by riding backroads in the US.

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>>17186266
well that was a meetup, of course it's gonna be a lot of bikes lmao
>>17186265
-6 celsius

>>17186265
what do you mean? The bike will be fine at any temperature. It just comes down to how cold you're willing to get as a rider.

>>17186265
depends on your riding style

>>17186260
u must be this tall to ride --->

You are only this tall --->

Tough luck wr :(

>>17186193
Compare a late 90s - 00's sports bike to a brand new one and the only differences you will see are power, weight and computer assistance.

A good track bike doesn't need cutting edge technology, it just needs enough performance to work on your skills without being limited by the bike. A late 90's/00's sports bike will definitely not limit anyone short of a prodigy from practicing their technique for a while. Focus on your own lap times not what the guy next to you is doing. These bikes will have enough adjustment to set up the bike for yourself and will have plenty enough performance to let you work on your track skills.
Having a bike capable of cornering at 70 instead of 65 or having 150hp instead of 120 isn't going to make you a better rider, being able to get the bike to behave like you need it to closer to its limit will and sports bikes from around 2000s definitely offer this.

The biggest thing they miss out on though is computer control which could turn a crash into a close call but you should be taking a gradual approach to track riding..

>>17186280
i don't get what you're trying to say

>>17186287
You aren't tall enough to post here

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>>17186296
try to stop me

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>>17186255

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>>17186303
ofc the traffic can not flow if the booths are blocked you retard

>>17186281
>the only differences you will see are power, weight and computer assistance.

No, but I feel like this is a losing conversation. If you want to buy a 90s bike because they're cheaper, buy one. Just don't whinge when it blows a head gasket and the bill is more than the sale value.

>>17186236
>having cars on the track with you

not sure this is really an improvement over the touge desu

so where the fuck can you get a motorcycle trackday for $100? Maybe if you get a season pass with an outfitter that mostly works at back-of-beyond tracks like Chuckwalla and Thunderhill, but even then I think it's more like $150.

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>>17186258
Okay, if I go another month I can grab an 07 gsxr600 that's already track prepared. I guess that's probably a better option.

Honda CB-1
Honda Hawk GT

Two of the greatest little bikes to be had...
Which should i buy? Or should i buy both?

>>17186322
>the bill is more than the sale value.
that's not gonna be all that much, especially if you diy. even if the situation is quite as dire as you're making it out to be, which I doubt.

>>17186325

It is.

>>17186323
Lad, it's $85 for a day with 5 sessions at my local track.

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>>17186329
Suzuki Goose

>>17186323
if you are so scared of cars you shouldn't be riding lmao

>>17186348
I'm not scared of cars, I'm scared of BMW drivers on race tracks.

>>17186344
donde esta tho

>>17186348
or I should ride on the street for free instead of paying for a track that lets cars on

>>17186325
"track-prepped" bikes are generally worth less than the same bike in stock form. How much are they asking?

>>17186347
Not available in my area, but good suggestion though

>>17186367
because there are no cars on the street?
hahahaha

>>17186389
well i guess the hawk wins because one-sided swingarm.

>>17186395
there's fewer cars on my local touge than there are on the ring, and it's also free

>>17186372
$2800 obo, he's had it for sale since January. I'm thinking I could probably get him down to $2400.

>>17186395
If you know where to ride, you will find barely any cars.

Today for example I on a road that was prohibited for vehicles wider than 1,4m.

>>17186418

Has it got a ttx rear shock? Forks look to have been sorted by someone.

>>17186411
I would agree, the styling and "features" of the hawk really makes it stand out.

On the other hand the cb-1 has gear driven cams and 13500rpm redline, just listen to it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cipg6lNTQvc

>>17186395
>cars on the track
>I pay

vs

>cars on the street
>I don't pay

HMMMM I JUST CAN'T DECIDE WHICH ONE'S BETTER

>>17186434
meh, as far as twins go i still prefer a V.

which the Hawk has.

>>17186444
>>17186455
why are you so scared of cars that you even have to samefag

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Well well well, it is almost confirmed my buddies' R6 will be an insurance write off.

Needs new subframe, front fairing, maybe new triple tree and a bunch of random shit here and there.

I'm hyped to see if he'd like sell the remains, I'm pretty sure I can eBay this one back to track and street duty in no time.

>>17186322
Aside from maintenance issues I'm interested to hear what you advantage you think a newer bike will give someone learning to improve their riding. Not competing with other people, but their own riding. Let's say I'm not talking earlier than 1995 and you are talking from around 2005 onward, right?

I could go on about new and older bikes alike bending valves or shitting their bearings or blowing gaskets, but maintenance issues are too variable to say a 2000ish bike is going to blow up as soon as you start riding it on the track, you are arguably always going to need to replace parts, and less likely to have them on a newer bike but they certainly aren't immune. Do the maintenance and it won't happen for a seriously long time, it will take a weekend to a week to get the whole engine done if nothing is really wrong.

>>17186462
Cafe it

>>17186433
Don't know, haven't made contact with him. His ad doesn't have a lot of detail.

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-sport-bikes/winnipeg/suzuki-gsx-r-600-2007-track-bike/1259498087?

>>17186462
if its an insurance write off, the insurance company takes it

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>>17186481
Here it does not. I got my bike's market value and then sold it for 500€. And another 2000€ as compensation for my injuries. I'd rather not have it happen again though.

>>17186475
I'LL RETURN THAT R6 TO STOCK AND YOU CAN MAKE IT A CAFE RACER AFTER YOU TAKE IT FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS

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>>17186499
lmao worst yamaha why can't you faglords on your island ride

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFgWZ0CEewA&feature=youtu.be&t=7m28s

>ride on the track they said

>>17186499
Why would I want a R6? If I liked them I would want to cafe them.

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>>17186512
You know who is from Mallorca?

>>17186466
>>17186466
I can't comment on any bikes prior to 2000 but I can say that the three bikes I own 2002, 2003, and 2005 have never experienced any kind of problem you would expect related to age. Then again, it might just be because they are god mode GSXRs. The only maintenance work I have had to perform was replacing the steering head bearing on my 03 which is pushing 35k miles. Not bad for nearly 15 fucking years of sitting. So unlike most people, I am pretty biased when it comes to the old bike vs new bike debate. I see literally no reason to buy a newer bike in this day and age. It's not like gyroscopic physics change from year to year. The overall geometry from year to year remains virtually the same. The only real distinction I would make from "old bikes" and "new bikes" is fuel injection but that started as early as 1999 in the 750s.

tl;dr youre a fuccboi if you buy a new bike. ABS/TC/Rider Modes are complete memes reserved for redditors

>>17186539
ur mom?
xddddddd

>>17186524

Taking a bike on the burgerking is just a terrible idea in general. Way too slippery and bumpy, just not a bike track at all.

>>17186539
The wrecking ball? Must be related.

>>17186524
>shit happens at 7:33 ish people

>>17186524
The absolute madman kept it up, pretty impressive

>>17186542
Same
Ive got a `96 suzuki thats never needed any work done on it. At 37,000 miles the clutch is just now starting to slip a bit in 5th. Rides perfect otherwise.

>2007 r6, 35k miles
Or
>2008 cbr600rr, 29k miles
Both same price, good condition.
I like the lower miles on the honda but i heard the r6 is actually the better bike.
This is going to be a mostly track bike.

>>17186625
Both very low milage so that wouldn't be a problem

>>17186625
r6

>People intimidated by carbs

Carbs are incredibly easy to maintain with a few simple, relatively inexpensive tools.

The worst part is usually just removing and reinstalling them, depending on the bike.

But I guess keep thinking they're high maintenance and shit, it'll improve the used market for me.

>>17186654
>keep thinking they're high maintenance and shit
lmao only americans do that

>Digital dashes on bikes
>Useless and crap
>Throttle by wire

Ugh I hate this trend. None of these bikes with everything running into a single screen are going to work worth a shot in 20 years when any of a hundred $0.0003 surface mount chinese electrical components shit the bed or go out if spec.

Please give me simple indicators and mechanical speedo/tach. Don't mix unnecessary or superfluous features into the fundamentals, so I can just strip the useless crap off without needing to buy aftermarket gauges.

>>17186560
But it can go so right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inc9cGasgsA

>>17186560
t. never been to the ring on a bike

>>17186654
>>17186716
I have nothing to add but agreement.

hello /dbt/

how do i wash/clean my supersports? i dont want to scratch or damage the plastics.

>>17186784
Pressure washer with a low pressure head and a soapy rag

>>17186236
>that runoff
Holy fuck. I'll pass. Thanks. And by pass I mean not attend.

>>17186625
Mostly track? Get the r6 but if you want a road bike that cbr has better mid range

>>17186784

I wash all my bikes the same way.

Ride to the local self serve wash, soak the whole bike in degreaser first. Then I switch to high pressure soap, then rinse, then spot free rinse.

~6minutes of quarters and a short ride for air dry. If I'm being anal I'll wipe my sidewalls down and polish any spots off when I get home.

>>17186799
>that runoff
??????

>>17185936
>fancy dash on a bike made by poos in loos
>incoming moisture problems

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Subjective brand approval of motorcycles in Germany.

AAAAHAHA HAHAAAHAHHA HAAAHAAA

>>17186867
>brand approval
what did he mean by this

>>17186872
The brand being perceived positively.

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What do you think boys?
$4500, 1500 miles

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>>17186867
>Suzuki 22%, 31%

Holy Fuck the Germans are classless pieces of shit

>>17186867
>Nazis like Nazi brands the most

stop the presses

>>17186883
>1500 miles
Do it.

>>17186893
I don't think it's a scam, but not sure.

>>17186625
6k mile difference is negligible. If you ride much you're going to make up that much mileage in one year anyway.

>>17186867
no surprise.

Everyone over 50 rides a GS 1200, everyone below 30 wishes to own a KTM.

>>17186894
If its the one in the pic it looks pretty new.
Go check it. Look at tyre wear, brake pads, chain and sprokets and compare wear between the footpegs and the passenger footpegs.
You should notice if the milleage isnt truth.

>>17185971
>his ass is 6 feet long and weighs 140 lbs

What's the size of the master cilinder's piston on a ER-5? 12 or 13mm ?

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Slow thread.
You know what to do:

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>>17187046
>inb4 water spots

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>>17187046
Dominoes?

>>17187098
>two grills
more?

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>>17187046

>>17186478
Looks all stock to me.

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>>17186344
still waiting on this


>>17187046

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>>17187046
SUH DUDE

>>17186654
>People intimidated by carbs

Some people have no interest on working on their bikes and want them to be as reliable and maintenance free as possible ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

>>17186512
I think I know way too many racer wannabe faglords, myself included.

>>17186466
>>17186542
Really late to this party but

Comparing 95' to 05' you can find improvements in literally everything:

>suspension
>braking
>weight distribution
>steering
>fuel economy
>tire sizes sometimes (120/60 and 170/60 pls go)
>bikes can be up to 20 more powerful, see the CBR family.


Weight shavings and horsepower increments you can see on a spec chart, but the more subtle and IMO important things like suspension, steering and brake feel you have to ride the bikes to fully appreciate. They can be massive over a 10 or 15 year period.

The TC on some modern bikes can be a very useful learning tool, although if you want to go balls out you'll probably find yourself wanting to disable it soon enough. There's a reason why "track mode" is a thing.

But that's racetrack stuff. Some say the VFR750 is the best bike ever made. I think F4i's are pretty amazing and I s-s-secretly think R1200GSs are cool b-b-but don't tell anyone

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What's the bike equivalent of the Land Rover? The bringer of civilization to the undeveloped world? The first bike half the world has ever seen in person?

>>17187217
yamaha XT

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>>17187217
pic related. or maybe klr.

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GOTTA CATCH 'EM ALL

>>17187201
>some say <their preferred shitheap> is the best bike ever
That's pretty much a meme. People fall in love with some bike they had and put it on the pedestal. I do it to the SV sometimes, but it's a good bike for what it is.

>>17186542
Traction Control is necessary to ride the new 1000s fast. If you think you don't need it, then you're just a slow street rider who truly doesn't know anything. There's a reason you can adjust the intervention levels and still slide the bike into and out of turns.

Of course no one needs it on the street, but it's a cheap safety measure. Same for mortals at the race track. Just like ABS, if it's set properly then it doesn't kick in unless you need it to.

>2005 GSXRs god bikes
I have an 06 750 race bike. It's wonderful for its age. Ohlins shock and GP suspension cartridges. The thing rails.

I test rode a 2016 R1 at the track and it's a fantastic machine. It was so planted and the only downside was the ABS getting in the fucking way for a second. It was all preset and in a derpy power mode, but super easy to get comfortable on.

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>>17187046

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>>17187237
Good mention.

>>17185894
>>17185909
>>17185924
>>17185936
So what would you recommend? I didn't hear anything bad about the ninja. Seems like used ones can be had for cheap.
Looking for something to commute with over the summer, about ten miles round trip.

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>>17187046

>>17187404
Also need to mention, I'm really comfortable on dirt bikes, off roader for 13 years, but I don't want to jump on something big for the road. Small and good handling, maybe a little underpowered is ideal. Don't want to get in over my head like so many beginners do.

what movie should I watch? It must contain motorbikes and be good.

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>>17187480
ghost rider

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Newbie here wondering about upgrading my bike.

I've been riding a Piaggio Fly 50 for 4 years now, and want to upgrade.
I'm just a british student so I can't afford anything too expensive.

What are /dbg/'s thoughts on either an Aprilia Habana or a Suzuki RV125 Vanvan?

>>17187422
>dirt bikes for 13 years
You don't sound like a beginner to me

I am definitely a beginner and I was thinking of getting a 300, but after talking to some rider friends and doing some research I'm getting a 650.

How fast is traffic on your highways? Are you commuting or carving? My understanding is that handling a small bike through twisties is as much fun as you can have with your clothes on, but getting blown around like a feather on a freeway is uncomfortable and 70-75 mph leaves you not a lot of wiggle room. I'm familiar with driving a 3 cylinder geo metro at those speeds and it's scary entering a left-side on-ramp in traffic with shit-all for acceleration. I'd rather have more power if I have do it exposed on a bike.

>>17187496
[spoiler]I actual kind of liked that movie[\spoiler]

>>17187422
GOD
BIKE

>>17187480
>Dust to Glory
>On Any Sunday
>Road (2014)
>The Fast and The Furious (I saw this one for the first time recently! lolcantturn, but not bad.).

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>>17187517
fug forgot pic

but yeah if you spend a lot of time on the highway get a 650

>>17186524
he has skills yes but any other bike would go down

this the power of BMW

>>17187501
im mexican and my first bike was a 2004 sv650. I was a student at the time. I know have a cb600rr.

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>>17187509
i've tried to watch it three times, I fell asleep all three times
>>17187480
now seriously anon, the one about burt munro, something like the world's fastest indan I think it's called, I really liked it

>>17187422

What kind of dirt bikes anon?

I had about 6 years experience on dirt bikes before I got my first street legal motorcycle, which was just a 1980's 200cc dual sport shitbike. I rode that for a couple of years, then upgraded to a 650cc dual sport which will really do just about any kind of riding you want with appropriate tires.

I'm at a total of 13 years riding experience now and just starting to get some bigger road bikes, 1200cc cruisers and 80's 750cc sports. I thought adjusting from the dual sport to road bikes would be hard, but I was pleasantly surprised at how easily I adapted. Honestly the hardest jump I've had was from the 200cc dual sport to the 650cc. I feel like I'll be ready for a modern 600 class sport soon, but I also hold myself to a pretty high skill standard. Plenty of retards just grab a 600 sport as their first bike and most of them don't die, even if they're shitty riders.

>>17187501

>4 years on a 50.
>Looking at 125s

Anon, it's time to get a 200-300cc bike at least.

>>17187480

Fuck all the other suggestions.

If you want an actually good bit of film about motorbikes, watch "TT3D: Closer to the Edge".

It's a documentary, but very well done and has a lot of incredible footage. Don't worry about the 3D thing, it's fine in regular old 2D.

>>17187506
I'm just not good in traffic and want something basic that won't get me into too much trouble. I'm 6'0 and 220 but I'm much more comfortable on a 230 air cooled dirt bike as opposed to a 250 race bike. I like riding a bike comfortably at it's limits instead of uncomfortably at it's idle.
Traffic a shit, 55 zone but people do 70 all the time. Lots of bro trucks doin the ol bob and weave.
There would be a few twisties but mostly non interstate highway.
Even a Honda or Kawasaki 650 dual sport sounds good, i would probably be really comfy with the handling even though it's not as good as some on the road, but ninjas are cheaper.

>>17187517
I've not browsed dbt in a long time. Is it a meme bike or actually good?

>>17187501
>6 Years riding

My first bike, an XT-350, had more horse power than both those bike combined. You are more than ready for a 650 Thumper/1000 Twin/600 i4

>>17187572
Mostly trail riding on a 230 and 250 Honda.
I think the skittishness is from a bad experience I had with a Sportster. Beautiful bike, we just never got along.

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>>17187577
>>17187605

UK law stops me from going above 250CC without doing another test in a year's time.

The other advantage of a 125 is they're cheaper.
Just comparing an RV125 with an RV200 the price goes from £1000 to £3000.

If you can suggest any aesthetic looking bikes suitable for an A2 license, that don't cost more than £1500 I'm all ears

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>>17187598
>>17187610

If you're used to dirtbikes and worried about getting something "too powerful", look around for a good price on a used XR650L.

Air cooled, very dirt capable, familiar riding position, etc. Easy transition from strict dirt bikes. I upgraded to this from a 1982 XL200R and it only took me a couple hundred miles to get comfortable on it.

I have other bikes now, but this one will always be bae. I've put about 18,000 miles on it since I bought it in 2011(?) and I love the thing. That's a pretty even mix of 80mph interstate riding, in town commuting, and pure off road.

You can get them pretty cheap and they're outrageously easy to maintain. In the time I've owned it, all I've had to do to it besides regular maintenance is

- New plug boot (old one dried out and tore)
- New CDI box (known fault of these, 10 minute fix)
- Replaced swingarm pivot bolt (my fault, sunk it and never greased it after)

All easy, all cheap.

>>17187648
Maybe getting a better licence, a bigger bike is always better at such small displacements.

>>17187648

>£3000 for a 200

You've got to be shitting me. I bought a 750 and an 1100 last week for less than $5000 for both.

I think you should save your shekels and move somewhere less shit anon.

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SAM SIGN UP SPAM POST

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>>17187659
I literally cannot get a better license at age 20 in this country.

>>17187669
£3000 is the cheapest that bike goes for
.
The Habana is ~£700

There's a chink bike called the Lexmoto Valencia going on autotrader rn for ~£625 but I'm hesitant to buy chink bikes

pic related is the Aprilia Habana

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>>17187700

Welp, don't think I'm going to make it lads.

>Been riding for more than a decade.
>Never done any kind of group rides.
>Would like to ride with anon.
>Would be like 4,000 miles of riding just to get there and back.

Maybe next time, it will be closer....

>>17187707

>Habana

Whatever you do, definitely don't get that.

>>17187719
There are one or two people coming from Colorado, you aren't that much farther and you have a much more enjoyable ride
You should set aside a few extra days and make the trip!

>>17185559
You need to find the exact point of RPMs and speed where your bike will vibrate the most. Cool vibrations make girls go wet because it physically stimulates their clitoris and vagina.

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>>17187731
Why not my dude?
I live in a city and quite like vespa style scooters.

Pic is my current bike

>>17187745

>bike

Hate to break it to you

>>17186524
>he keeps it upright and manages to keep going

fucking nice

>>17187422
duke690, 701, ninja650, sv650, z650,

c'mon man, there's loads of bikes that will fit your needs better. If you didn't kill yourself launching yourself off some cliff after 13 years of offroading, you can be confident in your throttle control on a streetbike.

plus, take this scenario which actually happens more than it should.
two cars merge into you at the same time, you can't brake because there's cars behind you, you can't go left or right due to the merging idiots. And you can't go forward since you're throttle is fully open on your 300cc bike.

>>17187733

It's tempting, but I'm planning a handful of 4-5 day trips this year and I'm already kind of running on the edge of how much time I can take off from my job before my employer starts looking at me funny.

If I can get my project car sold before then, maybe. Just maybe.

The only bike I have that would be comfortable enough for me to run that kind of distance without stopping to rest every 60-100 miles would be my '82 Gold Wing. I guess it'd be kind of fun though.

>>17187864
No one's gonna judge you for bringing a Goldwing, close to half the people coming so far have cruisers

>>17187506
Yeah because a 300 is in any way comparable to a Geo Metro for acceleration you tard.

>>17187836
>plus, take this scenario which actually happens more than it should.
Just slightly more than never, particularly if you aren't dicking around in the middle lane waiting to get run into
>you can't brake because there's cars behind you
That's not how roads work.

>>17187864
>>17187733
>>17187908


I guess this would be a pretty rad ride. I'm not a huge fan of riding on interstates. They're always less fun roads, and they usually have worse scenery than lesser highways. Wind is a lot more fatiguing at 80 than it is at 55-60 too.

That's 8 days of riding at 10 hours a day, which is pretty rough.

If I sucked it up and took the interstate route it would be like 6 days at 10 hours a day.

I guess I could just say fuck it, quit my job which I hate anyway, and leave like beginning of July to just explore my way East. I probably have enough in savings to cover the trip and however long it would take me to find a new job.

God damnit, I shouldn't do that...

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>>17187934

Forgot pic.

>>17187745
>4 tempi

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>>17187948

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>no bike
>no gf
>no life

how do i stop speeding on my bike? i've only had it 3 weeks and i keep doing 60 in 45s

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>>17187975
There is no stoping.

>>17187940
>>17187934
That looks fucking awesome!
Not gonna encourage you to quit your job, but if you really do hate it, it might be the best thing for you
You only get one playthrough of this life, better to do whatever makes you happy before you slip back into the void
Speaking from experience here, I quit working for 8 months and lived super cheaply off savings. Spent most of my time riding and traveling to different countries, I'm back to work now and honestly, I wouldn't change a single thing about what I did
It really opened my eyes to the way most people live

>>17187962
No excuse for not solving at least one of these problems

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How can you call that a skid plate Honda.

>>17187962

First things first.

Start pinching your pennies. Eat beans, rice, crock pot chicken thighs and shit. You can eat dirt cheap if you apply yourself. Stop buying anything you don't absolutely need, and think about what that means. Cancel your cable subscription, move to a pay-as-you-go phone plan for $40 a month or something. Put every spare dime into savings that you aren't spending on utilities, rent, or food into savings.

Sell all your stupid shit. Your game consoles, figurines, guns (besides maybe a single handgun and long gun), whatever over crap you've accumulated that you can get more than a few bucks for.

Buy a motorcycle and gear. Start riding it regularly and learn how to do all the basic maintenance. If you get a jap bike you'll only need like 10 tools to do most things.

When your lease runs out, take anything you can't replace for dirt cheap and store it with family or worst case get a small storage unit and pre-pay like 6-12 months.

Then just leave, man. Go explore your world for a few months. Couchsurfing.org is your ally, or maybe there's a better alternative now. Idk. You can find safe, comfortable, free places to camp too just about anywhere if you're paying attention.

Take as long as you need. You'll know when you're ready to come back to "regular life". You don't even have to go back where you started, maybe just start a new life in a new city.

You'll be a better person for the experience.

I spent 5 months on the road, and about $600-700 during that time. I was comfy most of the time, never went hungry, and nothing bad happened to me.

>>17188003
It is capable of performing a skid, no?

>>17187975
get a helmet with minimal noise and wind protection, then ride a naked bike...

>>17188008
Do this, just bring a hammock and you never have to worry about where you'll sleep that night

>>17187996

Funny you should mention that.

I did it before, for like 5-6 months. Saw most of the Western US in that time. I just told anon to do it >>17188008

Maybe it's time I took my own advice and did it again. I've been itching to for a while. Current excuses include waiting for my wife to pay off her student debt, and waiting for all the estate crap to be over from a death in the family earlier this year. There's a non-zero chance that'll all be done by July, so we'll see.

>>17188013
Skidded across the garage floor to the pile of knick knacks and random peices of random garage junk. That's about the only skidding that plate has done.

>>17188027
Hope you can make it, Goldwing Anon.
Godspeed o7

>>17188035
Fokkin hektic, mate!

I skidded once

Not a fun experience

Wear leather gear ;-;

>>17188003
Post pic of it installed. Gotta look gorgeous.

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>>17188048
Shitty picture. Just got it all done and it's sitting in the garage. I gotta work on adult stuff today and actually clean that garage out.

>>17188037

Thanks m8.

I'll monitor the updates, and if a manlet with a thousand yard stare on an ancient naked Gold Wing shows up, you'll know what happened.

>>17188070
That Africa shaped cutout is qt
:3c

>>17188078
There won't be more updates desu, just reminders and I'll verify the camping situation in like 2 weeks

>>17188070

>Enjoy your oil changes.

Who are you kidding, you're never going to put a real gouge or dent in that thing.

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>>17188048

Versus the Honda one the mounting bracket design black dog has come up with is ingenious. Hats off to them.

>separate bracket that is permanently mounted.
>rear of plate has essentially a lug or tow hitch like hardware that fits in and slides into place.
>front is just two bolts.

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>>17188084
You caught me. I probably won't. I'll be fucking your mom after she gets wet looking at my AT parked up at Starbucks. She will confuse the soy mocha latte stain on my KLIM gear as mud and think I'm a real bad ass.

>>17186367
Gimli Manitoba

so if you lock your front brake at anything faster than a snail's pace you're pretty much guaranteed to crash right

>>17188125
depends on surface, bike, and how gud you are. But pretty much.

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I cut out my bar pad and put my speedo in there. How bad does it look?

>>17188105

Good for you, maybe you can even put a smile on her face. Not like my dad hasn't had one or three extra marital relations in the 25 years they've been married, she's due one.

I never understood the whole "imma fuck your mom" thing. Who gives a fuck? What, does thinking about your mom getting borked make you jealous or something? That's fuckin' weird anon.

>>17188135

Could have done better.
Could have done worse.

5/10.

>>17188106
I thought you were just making shit up from that name, but apparently not: http://www.mrasuperbike.ca/trackdays/

Well, fuck. Why don't we have this in the states?

>>17188133

I locked both my front and rear once and probably wouldn't have crashed, if I hadn't smashed into a car.

Turns out dirt knobbies on a <300lb motorcycle don't brake very well on asphalt, but they sure do skid well.

>>17188144
Way to recover. Why you mad? Did an ADV bike touch you inappropriately?

>>17188125
It's fine as long as you're going straight.

>>17188154

I don't know what you're on about.

My local MSF chapter has a track intro day for like $150, and full regular track days at Arizona Motorsports Park are $179.

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>>17188135
Pretty fucking bad, if it were glued down then it would probably be pretty decent. You're almost there.
I give it incomplete/10.

>>17188154
Fuck if I know why the US is so expensive, it works out to like $60 USD since the loonie is in the shitter. The track's nothing to write home about though, but it's good enough.

https://youtu.be/FgGUXokEYdc

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>>17188008
>pay-as-you-go phone plan
>$40 a month

You can get some as cheap as $20 if you don't actually use your phone much. search: ting and usmobile

------------------------

In other news: I boring webm now.

>>17188151
>>17188179
The hole for the screen is actually cut pretty close to rectangular and would fit pretty well if the stretch didn't make it prop up. I think I'll need to get some double stick tape to hold it down

>>17186481
>if its an insurance write off, the insurance company takes it

Most insurance companies in the US will allow buybacks or settle for giving you a bit less for the wreck and letting you keep it. Most people don't ask because most people aren't mechanics.

The insurance company retains "totals" to sell at auction, but they have to pay to transport, store and sell the bike so if you cut a deal and keep it WITH THE TITLE you and they can do well.

Do your homework where every you live.

>>17188158

Nothing wrong with adv bikes, they're great. Africa Twin especially.

It's just too bad about the faggots that typically own them and think a road that a 2WD suburban utility vehicle could handle is "extreme off road!".

>>17188179
Gimli is just super cheap, probably because Gimli is a shitty track in the middle of fucking nowhere. Shannonville is $190, Mosport is $270, Mont Tremblant is $280, Castrol Raceway is $250 which is pretty bullshit looking at that, Mission is $165

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>>17188198
What are your opinions on the TR650 Terra, oh off-road God?

>>17188173
$150 > $85 and a $150 trackday is damn cheap. I don't think we have Sportsman races either, though I could be wrong about that.

though in all honesty the biggest things keeping me off the track right now are
>tfw no full leathers (working on it though) and
>tfw would have to ride to the track

>>17187217
The most successful motor vehicle in history is what you seek, for no other bike comes close to it's accomplishments:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Super_Cub

>In continuous manufacture since 1958 with production surpassing 60 million in 2008, and 87 million in 2014, the Super Cub is the most produced motor vehicle* in history

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>>17188216
they're chink 125s made for the third world

>>17188216
That's a Yamahondasaki cbzf650lr with what looks like the tail from a klr699f

>>17187201
The only intimidating thing about carbs is knowing your bike will run like shit relative to even 90s FI (the no O2 sensors, no carbs kind) all the time because you have primitive mass market carbs instead of a performance set that costs more than your used motorcycle

>how to actually clean carbs, if you let your bike sit with shit gas:
>check the fuel filter for gunk
>put fresh gas in the tank
>still habve a problem?
>pop the top off
>open the drain screw
>blast that little hole with carb cleaner for half an hour
Unless your bike sat for 20 years it works every time. Carbs are generally maintenance free if you baby them.

A clogged injector, failing fuel pump, or clogged filter on a FI bike is actually more wrenching-intensive if it happens.

>>17188198
If I wanted to do trails I'd get a 450. The AT is perfect for cruising at double even tripple the speed a 2wd suburban could handle on long trips across continents while enjoying the freedom a bike offers.

I also have a liter bike but it doesn't mean I have to pretend to be Rossi to enjoy it.

Plus where are the assumptions coming from. You seem to be in every thread making radical assumptions.

>>17188205

I've literally never seen one in the US and I don't know anything about it.

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>>17188223
>>17188235
I know i'm shitting up your thread and i'm sorry but can i get a serious answer, i couldn't figure it out myself

have you ever been doored /dbt/

>>17188255
Okay, because you are self aware of your shittiness, it looks like a dorsoduro 750.

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>>17188245
He's just a fagit

>>17188260
No it doesn't.

>>17188267
Ur right its a KTM
I'm stupid

>>17188216
left is a XT660X
center is a CB500F or X
right is an NC700X/NC750X

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>>17187700
I'm trying to make it there but I don't want to say for sure yet.
>I really need a windscreen for the highway trip there
And tools to change oil and shit down there probably.

>>17188270
The lc4 sumo to be precise

>>17188207

Biggest things keeping me off the track right now are I don't have a bike that I would want to track anyway, and I don't have a set of leathers.

The part of the year where it's too hot for me to even want to ride at all just started, but I'll probably be looking for a cheap, beat up 600 class sport bike and buying a set of leathers in about 5 months.

Fortunately I also have a dual sport and the local motocross track only charges $30 per rider for open practice. I already have full gear for that so I'll probably be hitting it up some in the mean time.

>>17188216
Lc4 690 super moto

Fuck off

>>17188241

You're forgetting the syncing part, which nobody seems to do for some reason.

>>17188299
Unless you fuck around with the screws it doesn't really get out of sync. I've owned carbed bikes for the last 12 years and had to sync one set.
>because I had to rejet it.

>>17188245

I'm just talking shit on the internet anon. It's to let off steam.

Every time I go on my local craigslist I see some form of KTM or BMW adv bike for sale with $2,000-10,000 in aftermarket upgrades and accessories and less than 10,000 miles for sale.

I couldn't ask for a better example than this.

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/mcy/6117101157.html

It makes me seething fucking angry every time, and I'm taking it out on you and the rest of the /o/ adv crew until your bikes show some signs of actual abuse.

>>17188317

How many times during those 12 years have you actually checked the sync to see how far off it was?

>>17188338
Maybe once or twice, they were off very slightly but not enough to make a noticable difference.
They all ran just fine.

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>>17188324
I guess i need to get some pics of the knocks on my skid plate

>>17188357

Here's another one.

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/mcy/6127227114.html

>2008
>Shitstorm of aftermarket crap
>Less than 8,000 miles
>Currently in climate controlled storage

Just fuck these people god damnit.

>>17188324
But adv bikes make some pretty dank street bikes for hooning in comfort with a little bit of occasional dirt riding on the side. You don't have to do extreme trails to make use of the bike. It's no worse than the 99% of supersports that never lean more than 3 degrees.

>>17188274
Post strips

>>17188376
>not taking advantage of half price pristine condition bikes with shitloads of extras
You're looking at this all wrong anon.

>>17188385

You're right, it's no worse than most supersport buyers.

I hate them all.

I can't even be smug about how much better of a rider I am because they don't actually ride so I'll never meet one on the street or trail and embarrass them on one of my shitbikes.

>>17188400
What's your problem? People buy bikes and have fun with them in their own way.
There's nothing wrong with riding casually and not pushing a bike to its extreme.

>>17188411
just ignore him man
it's just alphonse being an underage cuntwad again

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>>17188324
What other people do with their money makes you angry?

Here. I've owned it for three weeks. I guess I'm supposed to have 50,000 miles and parts falling off.

On another note the first damage and why I felt like an idiot for not having bought crash bars earlier. Hit snow/ice on a blind corner and slid out. Knew it was up there didn't know how far up the hill. Road was old fireline cut with a dozer and not maintained. A 2wd suburban wouldn't have made it.

I guess now I have your approval. Gee makes my day so much better.

my 09 gs500 does some popping sounds out of the exhaust, what could it be?

could it be some bad spark or whatever, because it's raining on and off for the longest time all of spring

>>17188432
Probably need your valves adjusted

>>17188400
Show up at a track day then. If they're affordable within a 2 hour drive anyone interested in being a le gud rider will be there, not dragging knee through a roundabout.

>>17188432
Might be running mean or rich
Or >>17188438
Maybe also a stuck choke but not as likley

>>17188438
is that an easy DIY for a novice?

>>17188503
>>17188503
>>17188503

>>17188497
Not him, but literally did it for the first time on a car today; if it's anything similar you just need basic hand tools and a feeler gauge. It's easy.

>>17188411

Buy a bike that meets the requirements of the way you're going to ride.

If you buy a sport bike and ride it like a grandmother to the grocery store you're a shitstain.

>>17188426

> Gee makes my day so much better.

It must if you went through the effort to get it in the first place.

>>17188497
Depends

Ninja 250/500: As easy as changing a spark plug
GSCXR600: Yeah, it's pretty doable
VFR800 VTEC: It's not an easy DIY for anybody

>>17188518
So what you're saying is I should garage my sportbike for grocery shopping and buy a honda cub just for that? And also have an africa twin laying around for when I want to take a long trip that might involve a single patch of gravel? And have a classic looking UJM or cruiser for when I go to a bar or restaurant? And have a torque monster naked bike if I ever want to do a wheelie?

A bike is a fucking bike. You can do normal bike stuff on a sportbike without compromising your highway on-ramp knee drags.

>>17188426

>What other people do with their money makes you angry?

Yes.

It should make you angry too, and we should all shame them collectively.

>>17188538

>itt
>missing the point

>>17188566
you could do one good trip to the track/twisties a month and the relative tire wear would make it look like you had massive tendies if you rode gently every other day

/dbt/ is full of people that think you need to push it as often as possible and run the edges of your tires ragged before they're square or you don't deserve a sportbike and should get a cruiser (insert something about cheating wives and effeminate men here)

>>17188606

I never said any of that.

I'm talking about people who literally don't ride their bike to its capabilities EVER.

Not the guy that does a couple grand adventure runs a year and uses his bike as a commuter the rest of the year. Not the guy that goes to track day once a month or every two months, knows how to ride his bike, and still rides it to work sometimes.

Those people have bikes with actual miles on them and the signs of being used for what they were designed to do.

I'm talking about the guys with little to no riding experience who go out and buy the "fastest" or "best" bike based on reviews and specs, talk about how capable it is constantly, and put a couple thousand miles on it before selling it, or a few hundred miles a year, or never run a hard hundred miles on their adv, or never take their liter bike to the track. It's THOSE guys.

They're just doing it as a status symbol, like a flair badge on their backpack or something. "This is part of how I define my personality!" just because I own it. It's like stancefags or retards with $3000 safe queen guns with round counts in the hundreds at best.

>>17188644
Yeah it's mildly unnerving for an enthusiast to see, but remind me again how anyone besides yourself is letting that affect you?

>>17188657

I'm just trying to shame them, because they deserve to feel shame.

>>17188663
you deserve to feel shame for how fucking autistic you are

>>17187700
too busy being doxxed by some jackass putting together a /dbt/ meet up in the US

>>17188644
Literally describing my father. Except here is where you are wrong. The man rides hard when he does ride, he just can't ride every day as he still has a demanding job at age 67 that requires he travel the world. When he does get home he always has the latest and greatest Ducati can offer him. He still has his first Ducati he bought in the 70s in showroom condition. Now when you see him trade in a like new bike you get upset? I just hope he can take enough time out of his schedule to enjoy the new toy he got as mom keeps him limited to 10 at any one time.

Be happy for other people.