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Old bread >>5685285
No but I might be crazy and delusiona, you never know.
>spend evening playing ssb with best friend because sports are for real men, not women and artists
>get him to give me a draft of his novel that I haven't seen in five years
>halfway through the first book
>he has several books planned out
He's a madman but he's mine, and I wouldn't have it any other way
Hopefully I'll find something else he didn't know about the book this time
Bit early for a new thread but whatever.
nth for Dinosaurs.
>Take that Gem!!
this week you only get chasers
Also, who needs a documentary when you can just check books out of my bookshelf?
mtfg why can't i stop thinking about the sex i had with that boy? him ripping my skirt while he grabbed my ass, shoving me up against the wall and holding me up while he fucked me, slamming into me and pulling my hair from the back. i wanna think about something else but i can't ;_____;
Sure why not, i'm almost certain i'm only bisexual because so fucking lonely.
I just realized my homework was due in an hour, not tomorrow. And I haven't even started.
I have been really nervous lately because I feel Im losing way too much hair, I havent told anybody but been crying a lot lately.
Today my mom told me that my hair looks weird, like I had too few hair but long and it looked weird, and that I should cut my hair.
Now Im wearing a beanie hiding all my hair and i havent shave in like a week. my life keeps getting worse
>tfw don't know if you pass and is super delusional and retarded or if other people are retarded
>the cambrian explosion
>those geology books
>those rocks and minerals
I-I think I love you aria
Are you a QT gem?
I don't know why but you inexplicably strike me as a QT.
An entire program in fucking COBOL, which I'm shit at.
>crossdressing aap python programmer?
Does this mean dressing up in boy clothes to program and getting off to the thought of myself as an attractive boy? If so I already do that...
Wouldn't know sadly, never used it ;~;
Why are you learning cobol of all languages?
I got my degree in Geology after I got out of the Army. I wanna continue doing geo work but I have a security clearance and I should put that to work while the oil glut is on.
>Why are you learning cobol of all languages?
Muh banks. Muh retired cobol programmers. Muh job market.
I'm a trans cheerleader girl for a college football team.
i have been here almost every day since i was posting with this trip every day
i even posted a picture of myself earlier :x
i used python for one of my classes, which i don't understand because its a web development degree, but i REALLY fucking hate how the indentation/whitespace matters because my work flow is generally a lot different that most people's and i have to fight old habits to do anything in python which makes doing anything with it incredibly slow.
>tfw you just want someone to save you from your stagnant life
Science is surprising.
So... anyone else get dramatically worse at tolerating the cold since starting HRT? This is the warmest winter I've been alive for, and 4 layers is almost mandatory to avoid shiver-induced muscle cramps.
I knew it was a common effect, but didn't expect it to be so pronounced.
>tfw no good friend to pull you out of your neet cave and push you to go fulltime already
Do you like cheerleading? What do you think of your outfit? Is it compromising to your comfort?
I also don't know much about cheerleading in general so what kind of position do you fill?
I thought trans girls were supposed to be good at programming, why is this language so fucking shit.
>maintaining decades old code bases running on half functioning legacy mainframes
All the money in the world can't buy back your sanity anon ;~;
OK that actually sounds like it sucks. The syntax is supposed to be really easy to get, but having whitespace and indentation matter, idk.
Sadly I was kidding, but I have been tempted on more than one occasion to get some guy clothes again to fuck around with.
No need to be hateful.
I studied ballet from a young age. I was one of those boys growing up. The outfit is pretty corny, but I don't mind it. And it's pretty comfy, as the materiality supports for hyperflexibility. I'm a side base, someone who helps to lift flyers and support them.
I made really good friends with a few of them, I peacefully coexist with all of them, but I'm not the alpha leader of the team. It's ran like a seniority cult and somewhat cliqueish.
I don't know, I'm going to hand it in late and work on my C# homework due at 8 AM tomorrow instead.
Taking CS in college was a mistake, I wish I was getting fucc from a loving bf right now instead of sitting alone and stressing over ancient programming languages.
We need an updates mtfg group pic. Like on one hand, you got people like me who live dual lives as geologist government workers, to cheerleaders, to programmers, to complete neets.
I suck at photoshop though so I can't do it (Though if someone used Ellie Sattler to represent me I'd appreciate it)
I'm sure you'll have a happy and normal life too. The pitiful anons make me sad but at this point some of them are basically deliberately sabotaging themselves.
Wow, good for you. I'm glad you're enjoying your life and making the most of it. I'm stealth too and part of me wants to come out for better trans-representation, but I also don't want to become an icon at the sake of sacrificing all the other components of my personality and skills lol. I don't want people focusing on my transness as my identifying quality.
Should maybe try upping my iron, yes. Going to be on a (mostly) vegan celiac diet soon, so no time like the present to learn pro nutrition strats.
But I'm tired of being cold. Will endeavour to have a bf/portable heater by next winter.
This one mtf programmer would look so much better if she would just shave her hairy eyebrows.
i mean, im not salty. im happy for her and i dream of a day when transition is behind me enough that i don't have to think about it like 90% of my waking life and i have some higher self-esteem. i don't think i would post here anymore if that were the case
My life can be enjoyable most of the time, but not all the time. I feel like most people can say the same? Do you mean how you don't want your trans identity to define who you are as a person and for it to overshadow or trivialize your other qualities as a person? Being trans is a very new thing, so people aren't used to it yet and it is a big deal unfortunately. I haven't come out to anyone since moving here. I think they would treat me completely different too and I fear it. I'm happy for you too ^^
i guess ;_; but then i just miss him.
idk like anything. idk it both is nice to think about but it's also shitty ;_; he was messagin me earlier so i talked to him for a bit today but i don't wanna miss him. i wanna just do normal stuff like thinking about him takes control of the rest of my thoughts and actions and makes other things harder to do. at least when all i thought about was money i was focused lol
How does it feel knowing that even if you had money (which most of you NEET whores dont) that there is no surgery that will change your jaw structure or shoulder width? These two things are dead giveaways and will always be an obvious tell of your true gender. You literally cannot do anything about it except take myspace angled photos and look for validation on the internet.
Do any of them know you are trans?
Are you post op?
>Being trans is a very new thing
it really isnt
>when ur nothing but a joke to /lgbt/
kayla used to cutepost more now all she does is post bait or respond to bait
Didn't we used to have like a /mtfg/ tinychat/video chat thing going on in the early days of /lgbt/?
What ever happened to that? Is that still a thing?
I believe that she's referring to awareness of trans-people as a normal element of living in western society. Most people still see it as something ghastly (especially in the US) when it doesn't necessarily have to be given the modern medical standards.
but everyone already treats me like a woman and if I'd been more confident about starting I would probably look a lot better and if I kill myself before 40 it wont be because of tranny stuff
Relative to other spectrums of the LGBT, I feel like most people haven't had the exposure to it. Their level of exposure could also depend on things like geographical circumstances, cultural upbringing, etc.
You are correct when you say that I don't want my transness to overshadow my other qualities and goals as a person. I'm interested in math and science and that's how people see me. If I had to explain my transness to people, it would detract from what's more important. It would also detract time from me being able to indulge and improve in my hobbies.
*picks u up by the shirt collar * uh BACK off dude???
>tfw will never be a cheerleader
>tfw will never get a boyfriend and hang out with girls all throughout high
>tfw will never be female to begin with
Lanky femboy at the last desk in right row here.
*shoots you in the eyeballs with a bullet from a gun*
heheh, get fucked
Posting an updated photo of the top of my shelf for gem.
I included my favorite earrings for her as well since they contain a certain gemstone she likes.
>Gem form of Peridotite.
>Peridotite is the dominant material of the earths mantle.
>Rare on the surface and thus actually kind of worth owning.
>Hey look, a raptor claw!
>But you are a girl
Debatable. I may feel like one and pretend to be one but biology and everyone else in my life dictate otherwise.
>who even wants to be a normie?
I want to be a normie. I want to be a cis boy or cis girl, whatever's fine.
Shit feel tb-h fampai
>but depressionposting is all i have anymore.
meh, even mindless repetition g ets boring after a while
Seeing how it was blacks that just won him that game..
We wuz kangs n sheeeeit famalam black betty
I don't have a doctorate. I spent 8 years in the army and fucked around after getting out. I don't have the patience to wait until I'm 38 to have a doctorate.
>Hach horse is a thing from around Hachinohe Japan.
>Unit emblem on a coin.
>Our unit was only 37 people.
>We all got medals for Operation Tomodachi since we did a metric fuckton more than other units in the Area at the time.
>tfw someone today told me im getting too small and skinny and that I need to start lifting weights and eating more
Y-Yeah I'll get right on that. I mean I would if this girl voice in my head would just go away ;~;
>tfw I'm the first person to play Death Grips' new Baneposting song in Drive Any Track
Ty friends that's enough for tonight I think. Idk why but ever since I was like 6 and saw some PBS doc about the post-dinosaur world and it had that huge fucking flightless bird running around cakawing and eating little mammals I've always wanted a little dwarf one as a pet. Do I have to settle for a pet chicken?
I know you own rainbow knee highs, GNU/Melly.
You could always get a parakeet, a macaw, or something like that. Hell a turkey or even quails can be bought for cheap and raised indoors.
(I'd go with a bobwhite quail. Easier to deal with)
Sooo.... Has anyone else realized the music used in Trump's ads is the same music from that documentary?
I don't believe it or not. Well I did at one point, but my mom take them. I was like I bought, well I like them so I will use them and I was like fine
fuck you, I self compiled myself with clang and llvm using a toolchain that that had no gnu project programs.
Potion Seller, I tell you I am transitioning into a woman and I need only your strongest hormones.
I want to tie you to my bed and slowly cover your whole body in bite marks
How can I cute post when I am miserable?
at least I got drunk tonight
>bring some girl home with a trans friend
>can't tell if she's trans or some cis lesbian who just decided to go to the lgbt group
>leaves to the bathroom and my friend and I start talking about it
>her piss hits the water
>we instantly know
I thought peridot was just the gem form of olivine though?
>Peridotite is the dominant material of the earths mantle
oh my god that raptors claw looks cool!
All I have for fossils is a small fish, fern fossilized in talc, and I used to have a baby megalodons tooth
also my favorite gem is probably either amethyst or aquamarine, mostly because of their colors
I hate cut and polished gems though because I feel like their unique crystalline structures are the coolest looking thing about them
also also trilobites are really cool so I'm kinda jelly
Birds don't have sphincters capable of "holding it in" if you will. No matter what you do, it's pretty much impossible to potty train a bird.
Just get a birdy diaper and call it a day~!
Just to fuck with us.
Or, if you're serious, because neurotransmitters don't maintain a constant level, allowing varying levels of other chemicals to cause fluctuation in the intensity of dysphoric feelings, while exhibiting a general trend toward greater dysphoria as your brain gets more and more used to operating with it as a "default" state.
Also here are some of the thigh highs I got while I was in Portland and visited sock dreams.
I look like shit because I just got out of the shower lol.
yeah when I use the bathroom I hear girls sound a lot different than what I do lol, even when I sit.
Kayla, I might be going out your way in a few weeks to a casino out there in Palm Springs. I am going to tag a long out there and maybe see someone I know who lives out there now. If I am not too busy with them maybe we can hang out?
But there is a chance I will be very busy with her, idk. I play stuff by ear...
Everyone likes Beryl and Quartz...
Actually I like Amethyst since it's my birthstone but shhhhhhhhh
Peridotite simply refers to the minerals of which Olivine is a part. Pic related.
I grew up in Ohio. Oddly enough Trilobites were easy to find due to the actions of the Glaciers eventually exposing Ordovician and cambrian rock layers.
oh god i'm faaaaaaaaaaarting
that is possibly the meanest thing you have ever said to someone who is so nice
IDK, all I plan is to walk around Palm Springs and hang out with an old friend. I don't really expect nothing to happen lol.
i am like 1/16th jew. I look nothing like a jew, I was raised catholic in a Republican household. Why do you think I am a jew?
Yeah I remember it being a small little house and then having to wait in the rain for the bus to take us to the max and then the max to OMSI.
The thread has gone full retard (Thanks Kayla.)
Gonna watch this till it ends:
>MFW thread went full retard due to Kayla posting literally the most "Oh poor me" comment period.
honestly her bone structure gave me dysphoria feels
oh anon how wrong you are
shes also insanely attracted to cute femboy looking just starting to transition transgirls
I love you elanna
Also cool!! My birthstone is opal
And thats really neat, I've never actually found a fossil before. I found a bucketload of petrified wood with my dad when I was like 12 but thats it
yes I get it, you want to go see the prostitute known as Jenifer/anteater more power to you
its more that true
>that is possibly the meanest thing you have ever said to someone who is so nice
maddie posts to boost her own confidence, nothing she says is nice, its all self serving hokum
>friend gifted me the dota winter battle pass
>doing the support quests while solo queuing
>everyone commends me and tells me i'm really fun to play with
>all 4 teammates tip me
>get violent nose bleed and have to stop playing
that was fun
Don't we all.
[spoiler]wishes don't become true[/spoiler]
leave kayla alone you pieces of shit
>boohoo kayla has said mean things about us in the past!!!
>boohoo kayla is a compulsive liar and constantly makes up stories and refuses to admit it!!!
>boohoo kayla always complains about her life and is oblivious to how annoying it is and is incapable of realizing her life really isn't that bad and most of her problems are entirely her fault and totally solvable!!!!
>boohoo kayla has shrek's teeth!!!!
so what? none of these are reasons to fucking antagonize the girl like this. if you don't like her, filter her! she is clearly trying really hard to be better and make friends here. can't you guys forgive and forget?
Petrified wood counts as a fossil though.
Permineralization and replacement allows first minerals (usually silicates) to crystallize in the gaps in the structure of the object in question. Then as water percholates through, you get deposition on the molecular level, thus creating a perfect fossil copy down to micro level. So where you might have had polymer chains before, you now have a complex calcium carbonate structure.
I live in Maryland now though, I know of some really good exposures. There was this really amazing horn Coral exposure I wish I could have spent all day cataloging.
WTF, she is a pretty cool person and she never worked the streets. you are just jealous of her because she is cute, she has that English degree you want, and she passes.
And no, I don't plan on having sex with her lol. She is just a friend ...
You seem to think I travel around having sex with as many people as possible when the treat is I haven't had penetration since like late October. Although I was really trying to hook up with my friend's roommate, but he didn't want to go all the way ;_:
also here is the flag for you racist.
>check out girl
>gf says she's pretty
>say you were just looking at her body
>not like that
>you only glance to see how they look and move
>she doesn't believe you
>tfw you don't look at boys because they make you blush
>tfw no boy would want you anyway
You realize the East coast contains the Northeast Megalopolis and the nations capital, it is also the defense and satellite hub of the World with the most active ports and is considered the center of culture and fashion in the United States?
I'm just saying, make sure you know what backwater means because where I live is pretty much the opposite of backwater.
we all know mtfg is just for people to talk shit to make themselves feel better, just like you talk about the chewed up bubble gum meat betwixt your leggings trying to convince yourself mutilating your penis was the right idea
The east coast is only considered the center of culture and fashion in the US by east coast trash. You'd have a better position if it weren't so laughably self-serving. Who the fuck cares about satellite hubs?
(And from manufacturing, to launch, to ground sat tracking the East coast isn't the center of shit regarding satellites.)
How fucking pathetic does a region of the world have to be that it can only claim bald lies for its relevance?
Honestly, what you need is to have sex ...
like seriously, you are basically Elliot Rodgers over here and think everyone's life is better than yours because they had sex. Go find a chaser or something to lose it to. You will see how overrated it is.
>Who cares about satellite hubs?
Pretty much silicon valley desu. Also, you realize that a significant portion of your internet traffic hops a satellite at multiple points right?
Oh, can't forget telecommunications which The East coast is the center of.
I could go on but let's not forget medical research, the most colleges pumping out medical degrees, the most labs doing research and development on new technology.
You realize too that the most launches take place from Canaveral? Vandenberg ain't got shit on Canaveral.
What's the left coast got?
Funny thing too, the east coast does have the most manufacturing hubs, the largest ports, and the highest density of concentrated wealth per capita.
Tell me more about how the east coast doesn't have shit.
Trip on Kayla.
>MtFs here who will never ever pass
>aren't braindead nuts
Pick one and only one.
Mostly by traveling and being a nerd on my computer.
I should start coding again, but I am really lazy.
You basically have two options:
1) Take titty skittles and see where that takes you, if it improves your life any
2) Repress further and become a masculine mess who'll mst likely end up a late transitioner (a hon) or dead
I've already done the first (after trying the second for way too long) and it's improved my life significantly, but it doesn't change that I won't ever pass. How do I deal with it in an emotionally mature way?
It just feels like I'm boxing myself in, you know? Either I transition and it ends well (lmao yeah right), I transition and it ends poorly and I off myself, I just off myself now, or wait 5-10 years and roll again with even less chance of a good transition.
The only sensible answer is clearly to stop bawling my eyes out and bitching on 4chan and transition ASAP but it just feels like I'm signing up to commit suicide later.
Sorry for ranting all over your general.
Does it numb the pain?
Louder, harsher, quicker.
I guess you could consciously moderate your stream or something, but that's the mark of a psycho woman impersonator as opposed to a normal, well-adjusted trans girl.
Damn, I am not going near the OC anywhere soon lol.
Well do it for the team and smack some tranny ass. I mean her dick is pretty cute.
idk the closest she has gotten to being somewhat inmate with someone was when I was joking around with her and gave her a titty twister.
Also if you don't want Kayla, what about me? I live in the valley though. I love guys and transgirls though.
Sheen, I'm sure that's not true. Last time you posted (that Anon wasn't being 100% terrible to you), it seemed like you were making real progress on improving both your fitness and your finances.
Whether or not you pass perfectly, or even well, you seem like the kind of person who'll attract someone - if you can ever manage being happier. I know that's not much solace, but you seem like a nice young woman yet to realize that about herself.
Courage and determination will take you far, and you've got a good bit of both.
gf got me sick, what's the best way to destroy her?
>>How do I deal with it in an emotionally mature way
>By not taking answers through 4chan. Talk to people irl, they'll provide a "mature" opinion.
Those scare-quotes are scaring me, Anonymous. That said, you're probably right that using 4chan as a support group may not be particularly helpful. Ugh.
Kind of weird and she runs across cross walks like crazy, has tons of anxiety and was afraid of going to a gay bar with me.
Me personally I will go to the abby with my straight friends or something. I am pretty open minded and lost most of my fear about life.
I mean I want a relationship lol, but idk I need a dicking and it has been so long since I had a dick in my ass.
I just want a bf/gf ;_:
I realized though that my happiness should not be dependent on if someone gives me the title of girlfriend though.
idk I was kind of buzzed from drinking a margarita right before.
There's always the option of going on HRT but continuing to be boymode 24/7. It's what I'm doing for now, at least. It's slightly less bad than being a caricature of what I really want to be, I guess...
no that's exactly what she wants! she must be punished!!
>tfw you have a bigger bladder than a cisgirl
>tfw you go to a public bathroom and pee for an uncomfortably long time
>tfw clocked by pee
>having a gf with a gt
And here I am stuck with a vagina.
im not a transbian though, i just happen to mostly only go after qt transgirls and cisgirls cus thats what i find attractive
i am bi though, I'm just not a sub
>shes also insanely attracted to cute femboy looking just starting to transition transgirls
yes, something about that aesthetic is so insanely pleasing
how're u today elanna-kitty
You sort of...have to accept that it's OK to be a trans woman. Not all of us get to pass (perfectly, often, sometimes at all) as cis women, and that feels awful.
But you're doing this to make your life more livable, right? Work on your face, your voice, your body, your style, your mannerisms, to be more comfortable with them, and to have better results, sure. But when all's said and done, look at what you've accomplished and leave what you haven't aside for another day.
You're a trans woman. You've got only the body you've got to work with. Even if it'll never look like a cis woman's (and for some of that, that's inescapable), that doesn't mean it can't be beautiful in its own right, or, more, that you can't be.
Androgynous characteristics are attractive to people. You WILL eventually meet people who are comfortable with that about themselves, and if you work on it, you may be able to be comfortable with that about them, and you too.
Just do what I do and use a single stall bathroom or wait until they use the hand drier before flushing everything out. Then wipe a few times to pretend you went silent poo. #stealthlife
>manager of gamestop comes in
>i ask him what it's like working there and we chat
>he offers me a job on the spot
s-should i work at gamestop?
They're pretty tiny so I could probably just pass them off as gynecomastia anyways, but I just wear an extra jacket or something and they become basically un-noticeable. I guess it might be harder if you get more growth than I have, though.
>Kind of weird and she runs across cross walks like crazy, has tons of anxiety and was afraid of going to a gay bar with me
I never thought I'd say this but I kind of want to hug Kayla now
Reminder that if your gt is bigger than 4 inches you are not trutrans!
>show gf picture I posted
>ask her if I've been bad
>she tells me yes
>pull off my pants and bend over my desk showing her my red panties, tell her I should be punished
>tfw she wouldn't reward me
mm im good
ex gf started drunk texting me and im getting a bit frusterated but im good otherwise
imma make some general tso chicken tonight for alison and then we're gonna get drunk and watch documentaries
also looked at lots of apartments today and i think we found the one we wanna move to so im kinda excited :3
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if the nipples are stimulated enough they will produce milk
any actual growth would require a long time of stimulation and would revert if you didn't fuck with them for 4+ hours a day
its "milk weight"
Thank you, Akaka; what you're saying is reasonable, and right obviously. And I guess it's not that I won't be able to pass that I have difficulty accepting. My biggest issue at this point is really that I think of myself as less legitimate of a transwoman because I waited so long to start transitioning, that I'm a disgusting fraud pretending to be something I'm not because of that, and that looking like a male is a reminder to myself about that shame I feel. I know that that's not reasonable because I wouldn't feel that way about someone else in the same situation as me, but when I'm thinking emotionally I end up feeling like I'm ruining things for others and selfishly profaning something sacred with my ugly nature. That doesn't make sense; I need to work on applying to myself the same standards I apply to others, and accepting that I'm not foul for existing and doing what I think I need to do to be happy with myself.
Thank you, again; I'll try being more fair to myself.