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You are getting 4chan threads in the mail?
You know you can just access this through the regular internet right? we have our own board and everything!
Repostan from ded thred
Whoa, that's really high. Are you able to sing at that pitch? o.o
Reading passages and conversations are different, I find that I sound better using apps like that. It takes practice to be able to converse in the same way.
Hey moap, how's it going?
I'm gonna see someone else tomorrow. He lurks /toy/. =]
>hes taller than me
>tfw no trans mother to teach me the ways of the girl
Yeah I can totally get how it would be different, luckily it's not far from the voice I can use in conversation if I try, but it does slip into a more andro voice sometimes. I think it along with being in the questionable range is most of how I get gendered properly.
While we're on topic, posting best RE grill.
A lot of sjw LGBT folk assume that being LGBT automatically means you cannot be conservative. It's kind of fucking stupid. I usually link them this video whenever they make an argument like that:
Sure, the newsroom is liberal as fuck, but I do feel that they make a lot of strong points. In this one, they preemptively take a shot at the rise of identity politics by pointing out the absurdity of reducing a person to their identity.
Pretty good, just got back from the dentist and grocery shopping.
That's ok, we have awesome weed. At least on the west coast.
/toy/ eh? Is height a concern, are you tall yourself? Seriously though text back the other guy. Two dicks are better than one.
Hold me /pol/, hold me and protect me from the mudslime invasion.
Ive always been into /pol/ shit since I was a teenager though.
Looks like a paradise of western culture if I ever saw one.
Thanks. I copied the link. Will use it in future.
I mean, on many issues I'm right-wing, on a few I'm left, and on a couple I'm grapefruit sherbert.
Most of my views are right-wing so generally that is what I say I am. I hate this one-in all-in rubbish.
the other guy is 45 and lives with his kids hes most probably immigrant from Ghana call me racist but I'd rather be with someone I can talk about pointless stuff with than some guy that talked to me a few times because I was crying nonstop those days and I really miss guy he not my bf but I enjyoed his company so much I feel like I'll never see him again and we'll drift apart but goddam I really want him to succedd he seems sad sometimes... ,__.
We'll keep you safe, and you'll never have to worry about those muslims ever again~
Den mother is a center left libertarian.
Don't assume that since someone agrees with someone else they are on "The other side".
>by law, need to buy health insurance
>no company covers both of the doctors I regularly see
>need to choose which one I'll be paying out of pocket for from now on
Fuck. I'm starting to wish we had a single payer system here...
If your politics are informed by shitposting on 4chan then I'm not sure you're in any position to tell other people that they won't be taken seriously.
Also there's a shit ton of right wing memeing about liberals and le SJeWs, its not like its purely a left-wing phenomena.
No problems, I'll be sure to beat some children and burn a witch too, in your honor.
>tfw catch my face in weird lighting for a moment in the window reflection
>tfw realise one of the most masculine traits on my face is the way my beard shadow highlights certain lines and shapes and stuff
>tfw realise I could possibly pass as a tomboyish girl with just laser and bangs
I know it's gonna come crashing down later on but I'm gonna ride this wave of gender euphoria for as long as I can
It's pretty much as old as 4chan.
Lurk moar newfag.
>implying I have my political opinions because of 4chins, and not my life experiences
IF YOU ARE EASILY DISTURBED, DO NOT CLICK THE LINKS:
Den mother means any mtfg poster who is about 29 or older. It comes from the argument that 30-32 is the average life expectancy of any transgender person. It gets made fun of and adopted by the older posters where we sit back and saying "Yeah I got another year in me before I croak".
Originally, an adult female in charge of a Cub Scouts troop. (Cub Scouts are like the pre-pubescent version of the Boy Scouts, similar to how the Brownies are the younger version of the Girl Scouts.)
Here's what Google has to say about it.
>unironically going on /pol/
>unironically going on /pol/ if you're trans
you do realize they think we're degenerate abominations and want us to die right?
>unironically giving me a 6.5/10 average
tfw drinking from a can comfortably for the first time as an adult
rhinoplasty, best decision of my life
The smugness is what gets me. I'm an isolationist-nationalist-libertarian, yet modern communist wannabe's such as yourself call me shit like nazi for loving my nation and people.
And what about your second point? So far, all the left-wing memes about right-wingers that I have seen are very Americentric, and many (though not all) right-wing memes about liberals and SJWs have thus far proven to be quite realistic.
The world is not America. Stop thinking we're all like you or want to be you.
I mean, say what you want about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least they have cute uniforms.
When did I call you a nazi? Defensive much?
I dunno what you're going on about with anything else in your post either, because whether or not you think they're realistic or not doesn't invalidate my point that right-wingers meme just as much (if not more) about liberals than vice-versa.
You realise /pol/ does not stand for "politics", but for "politically incorrect", right?
Many, if not most of the "Vote X" threads there are made by idiots from reddit who think doing so is edgy.
I'm not that person, that was clearly just someone shitposting.
And yes, I've both read The Selfish Gene and know what a meme is. Complaining about strawmen liberals and SJWs are definitely memes considering how much Reddit tier people do it.
How about both of you take your politics discussing asses back to /pol/ eh? If you two wanna have a cheeky argument for the sake of good times, I'm cool with that but when a joke goes too far den mom has to step in and speak up.
I await the "You just mad" and "STFU freak" etc responses. But come the fuck on kids. At least try to find some kind of common ground.
My point was proven.
>TFW the kids react exactly as mom predicted.
>TFW one of them misses the point so hard they assume it's about making mtfg a safe space.
>Believing den mom even endorses safe space.
It forces people to pay for something they can't afford or be fined even more. Im sure its a system that works great for hospitals, doctors, and pharma ceos- but for most of the people I know it's fucking garbage.
>tfw "den mom" thinks it was me, one of the people she criticised, who replied to her post, and not some random anon.
Tell him I can't do without my titty skittles and feel horribly depressed after getting rejected?
Oh no! No no no I just picked the two who were getting a little too snicky with each other.
Also, I apparently couldn't compose a sentence worth a damn so I deleted the original post and tried not to fail so hard the second time.
Though I really just expected a few people to bitch about the matter, then one random idiot to take what I said out of context because they are feeling a little... shall we say... defensive?
Fucking tim curry. Can I marry him? I know I know, I like women and all but damn I'd be his wife.
>If you pass and are white they seem to like you.
If you pass, everyone likes you, or have you seen any non-passing trans people on TV lately?
There's quite a few anons from Africa and the Indian subcontinent who post regularly, and they don't get called "nigger" or any of that shit there. And you should see the upwelling of support for the Yemeni and Syrian guys who occasionally post in the Syria threads....
Oh yeah, and the support shown for black Americans who don't act "gangsta"....
There's more diversity there than here, I'll bet.
>tfw look in the mirror and can briefly imagine myself passing
I don't know why I got this mood boost after being insecure as heck all day but it feels really nice and I have some hope
How is that even a question??? That's the dream.
>implying I'm ever gonna move past the goddamn AA cups
>tfw had a movie night with this girl set for sunday night
>she tells me shes feeling sick
>still feeling sick
>she still will probably feel sick
I'm not sure if shes trying to not seem like an asshole and put me off until I'm not interested, or she really is sick. Oh well this is my life. I shouldn't ever get my hopes up about anything. It only leads to more despair
Yeah. Im pretty stoned as it is. I always am.
Yeah but Im clearly only swooning for the stormfront breed of /pol/fags. And eh I guess you're right, passing is awesome. I wish I had more female friends though.
There are hon threads, like do people post hons and laugh at them or is it hon only and nonpassers allowed?
I'm gonna take pics when i get home. I was happy about finding some things i like, but I hate spending money, and i had to interact with people at the shop that were all like "oh, ok...." and shit. Just stylish girls looking at me with my poofy fag hair like "what". I know i look like a freak ughhhhdhdhdhg
My girlfriend of two years is going to break up with me just because of our political and life style differences. She doesnt want to give me children and live on a giant ranch away from the city. She'd rather live in Jew York city, and major in women's studies/social science.
And this is after all I've done for her.
She doesn't sound right for you pham. Dump her and find someone who is non-SJW and appreciates you for being you.
yep that's me. I like mtfg threads. I think I have figured out how to keep up with them. they move fast.
Aww thanks for putting hon in quotes. I am intimidated in here cause you are all so very pretty.
The picture is shit, but what you can't make out is a dozen hand made red velvet cupcakes, her favorite, which I had to make twice 20 mins before I surprised her because my dog got into them, a glass rose, her favorite book in a limited print, leather bind, and I wrote her poetry, sang her songs, and we cuddled under the stars.
Thanks, thats what i'm planning on doing.
>andro as shit
>fail in life so no money for medication let alone therapy or surgery
I've been unhappy with my gender since I was 12, I think I'm just going to end it now.
>Im clearly only swooning for the stormfront breed of /pol/fags
So, 400lbs and pasty?
I mean, I like the Nazi's stylish uniforms as much as anyone, but that breed of men died out in Germany in 1945.
Today's wannabe's are not the same.
That's really creative by the way anon. I'm a sucker for romance so if someone did that to me I'd probably madly fall in love. I mean cute lights, presents, yummies and gazing at the stars while cuddling? I can't see why someone is willing to let all of that go for a few differences.
Unless you were really persistent about kids but I doubt it.
I read them when I'm bored, but I'm a "cis" (probably) guy.
You should post more often, I don't know how to say it without coming off as sounding like a chaser but you seem really nice.
Well all I can say is don't give up after you drop her. You'll find someone else eventually, someone you'll form a stronger connection with. Someone who actually communicates their thoughts instead of getting all passive aggresseive on you.
Hello, I have heard about this forum through a friend, and just wanted a place where I could talk about my life. My friend would call it, "blog posting".
I was diagnosed as a polyamorous gender-neutral being by a psychologist I see weekly, and was wondering what my next step should be moving towards my transition.
Huh, how strange. Id never noticed them before, /lgbt/ isn't my main board though so.
When you die you just die, I guess a return to nothingness can be calming though.
Are they all like that? They wouldn't make good race warriors then at all.
Im not gonna hugbox you, I hate being lied to. All the anons saying you pass are lying, sorry.
I am new, and old, and not very with it, but shit I can spot that bait.
Hey guys, how well will I pass? I feel pretty confident about how I look. :3
aw, that's sweet of you. but let's stick with the eye contact and handholding first. i would rather do whatever you desire that makes you happy. i don't want to be a complete waste of time.
I don't go on tumblr, it is a very lewd place and I'm not fond of it.
I'm genuinely just looking for advice because I've been self ostracizing for a long time now because I don't feel I present myself how I feel I should present myself, I truly feel at odds with myself.
Gender-splash polyamorist judeotaoist galaxykin of Egyptophillipine ancestry (mixed with Cherokee roots) here. I recommended my friend this blog very recently and I am happy to see her here!
no problem anon I hope you have a nice evening <3
where are you from?
oh god. this is gold
you cant have sex without handling her tho!
rule of thumb: take NOTHING seriously and always expect people to lie. Still do offer advice though, and never attack people for their looks. DO have fun tho!
thats how I try to post.
Please do no exile me from your safe haven.
I do not feel safe anywhere but here now, you have all been so welcoming despite your cruel jokes at my expense, I think I can stay here while I think of my next step.
thank you all kindly!
>old guy friend tells me i sound cute
>in reality sound like a mickey mouse
>soooo tell him that he is a dick
wheres my award for being awful towards nice people who mean well with their hugboxing?
Going to sleep now~
Good night everyone.
Everyone should hug the "hon" anon desu.
really? I am a AGender poly-romantic furry positive demisexual polysexual trans-cis-gender womyn of color but of above average privilege and minor we-waz-kingz ancestry. I am a collection of systems with an old japanese man, a furry from Iran, and a Murican slim woman who is the primary head space. I am body and fat postive and work for the bernie sanders campaign championing the cause of making aware of intersectional privilege. I am working to a sociology major at a liberal arts college which should be paid for by the state for free so I can make 80k a year at a womyns book store.
moap is dumb af and doesn't know anything about looks. she consistently gives literally the worst, most off base advice in passgen i've ever seen. fyi. you should do what will make you happy about ur weight but you pass fine rn and ur voice is good too
Okay, I'm willing to humor you.
First, could you explain what you mean when you call yourself gender-neutral? (Or I guess your psychologist called you that; is that how you identify?) Second, what have you done so far to transition, and what would you ideally transition to?
Good thing I have coding, arch linux, and when shit hits the fan I can go live in a woods.
:"D oh god, thats actually p good
how long have you been working for disney
Autistic alien intelligence Nagato Yuki or timid moeblob Nagato Yuki?
>Are they all like that? They wouldn't make good race warriors then at all.
The ones who define themselves as stormfront types on the interweb, often yes. Sorry.
Look for people who prefer to be called nationalists, or somesuch, and people who don't blame the jews for dumb shit like not getting a job. You need to be selective, yet open-minded.
I know, I know, it's a PITA. Imagine being male and wanting a slightly right-wing girl (cis OR trans), it's even harder....
Mhm! I don't feel I belong as either gender, but in the very middle.
My main issue is that I have very high testosterone, and naturally through physical activity have gained muscle mass that makes me look very masculine.
I would much rather be androgynous, so in order to go in a more zen direction, I'll need to work on my femininity!
so far I've been taking my mom's daily vitamins (she's post menopausal) as well as massaging my chest daily. As I said previously, I'd like to be more feminine, so to transition closer to a female than a male.
I like the Puyo version of Nagato Yuki.
Cute, has a personality, loves senpai, is a little adorably clumsy.
i don't even come close to passing.
Same tbhon but you could probably pass because brown.
Some guy told me I was in the wrong toilet today, I genuinely thought I was about get the shit kicked out of me. He looked pissed for some reason. I'm terrified of ever going in there again now.
Okay, that's pretty straightforward if you're willing to try hormone replacement. To reduce testosterone, you'll want to get on an anti-androgen. I don't know if you would want to fully suppress your testosterone like regular MTFs do, it might be enough to lower it a bit. If you're not getting rid of your testosterone completely I'm not sure if you need estrogen to prevent bone loss, but you may or may not want to take some in any case. Talk with your doctor, in any case. If you don't want to use hormones, there are other options.
i am banned in Britain for supporting trump and having guns.
>tfw almost all toilets are gender neutral here
>tfw will never get beaten up for using the wrong bathroom
>tfw manly enough so people don't even notice anything
Shrooms will give you answers.
It could be worse, sorry for raining on your parade.
Smoke weed all day every day.
>tfw pass and attractive
Finding some one to protect me in the race war is going to be more difficult than I anticipated.
You toally do come close to passing. You aren't there yet you aren't a hon either.
Check your passing and attractive privilege PLZ
Yes, definitely do that. For most people the standard HRT medicines and doses are pretty safe, but especially if there are other complicating factors like a heart condition or such you definitely are smart to get expert advise.
All women are whores, therefor you are all whores. Discuss.
>tfw getting gendered female in boymode
I don't get it, but I like it.
Ihave no idea. I probs am desu
>Giving your partners access to your financials
>Watching anime with friend while cuddling and holding hands
>She presses my hand against her boobs because she knows I'll get super flustered and embarrassed
bullies are the worst
If anyone compliments you, they're just hugboxing.
If anyone genders you properly, they just being polite.
If anyone is looking at you, they're clocking you.
If people hit on you, they're just mocking you.
....A little bit. It depends on the beating and who's giving it.
I know, I wasn't referring to you silly, I was referring to Eliot.
Why cant I just be a delusional human being without everyone judging me about it? Girl clothes are just cuter and more comfy ok!?
Yeah but you'd whore if you could, so whore at heart.
It's just a simple fact of womanhood.
Search your feelings, you know this to be true.
Aren't whores worthless? I post this hit because I want some one to argue and prove me wrong, and you all just submit and accept it.
You fucking whores!
She felt mine up too and told me how nice they are which was also embarrassing
>tfw you see pics of traps etc. and realize that most of them are probably doing all the shit they do on cam while living with their parents
I mean I know thats my situation at least.
Cute feminine boys my age (so late teens).
How about cute fem boys in their twenties who hope to one day transition? Just asking for a friend.
We play around a lot but I don't wanna ask her to go past the boundaries her bf asked her not to cross, at least I get plenty of cuddles and kisses though.
Life is too complicated, Remy.
That's fine with me too I guess. Can't really help who you fall for after all.
Couldn't possibly turn down your "friend" ;p Definitely gonna end up sexually frustrated tho ;~;
I've been sexually frustrated since I was 11 so it wouldnt be anything new.
I mean I'll tell my friend that hes your type and he'll probably just say that he wishes he could hold your hand too or something.
Tell your "friend" to balls up (for as long as they have them) and tell me that themselves. The reward might be very pleasant for them c;
I've been invited to go to a talk about some library closure or something at my old uni city (booooring) but the invitation is from some uni mates and my old principle lecturer and mentor, and people will want to go for a drink afterwards and catch up. i've not seen my lecturer in 5 years. i've not seen my uni mates since last july. i've had a lot happen since then (laser, starting hrt, going fulltime, legal name change, facial surgery, growing boobs, finding my girl voice). I want to see my friends but... I'm really fucking nervous.
Oh, well I'll just get right on telling him about you. Its not like he thinks about Ricky every now and then anyway so I'm sure it will make him smile.
Fucking racist scum. Give the land back to the Abos your fucking cumskins!
As long as I am sent to a better country.
>start taking zinc daily
>I still feel like I should be a girl, and if I could press a button and make it happen I'd do it in a heartbeat
>but I now feel like I might be okay with being male instead even if I feel like I'm in the wrong body
>Like it's not a life-ending thing, merely a regrettable desire that I'll never be able to fully achieve
Is this a trap
w-what. the first thing i do when i get home is take off my bra