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I've eaten way too much this weekend edition

Time to starve myself.

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Previous thread >>5606341
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first for neet hours
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>>5607710
over there maybe
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>>5607710
Tru nigga hours you mean
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>>5607710
I'm a psychiatric inpatient, not a neet.
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>>5607710
>neet hours
lainanon would like to have a word with you
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who in cali please have sex with me my fuckbuddy friendzoned me and i need to watch youtube videos while we suck each other's gts
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hey /mtfg/ I'm gonna go pick up some donuts, what kind do you want?
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>>5607710
hey kiwi
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>>5607723
None. I've eaten way too much this weekend. It's time to starve myself.
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>>5607723
the kind that burns calories
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>>5607724
hi sheen
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>>5607725
Hey thats my line.
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>>5607728
how.ru
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>>5607740
i'm ok!
waiting for wednesday so i can laser again
trying to get out of my job and into a better one
hbu?
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>>5607749
just waiting on the call or email to know if I have this job or not
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>>5607751
same here
good luck c:
anyway i should sleep now, it's like 6am
g'n!
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>>5607751
I need a new job, but I can't decide if I should interview as a female or a male. I don't feel ready for girl-mode, but being a super-femme-weirdo-with-tits isn't much better than not passing.
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>>5607751
fingers crossed you hear back Shan
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>>5607755
nini and good luck to you too
I should go to bed too its almost 9pm!

>>5607757
I interviewed female even though I don't pass that well
>oh there seems to be a mistake on your birth certificate
>uh, actually... there's not
>oh, OH

>>5607758
me too
ty
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Ugh
Time to start first day as a teacher
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>>5607768
good luck bb. ill be praying for u.
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>>5607768
good luck Angie :)
you are going to kill it
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>>5607762
Yeah, I'm thinking about taking the plunge. I'm filling out online applications using my fem name right now. If I pussy out, I just won't answer any calls.
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>>5607779
at some point you just gotta woman up, you might look and or mostly feel like a hon but it is your life now afterall and just have to do it toprove to yourself that you have the ovaries to do it
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>>5607771
>>5607778
Thanks
I'm nervous as hell
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>>5607793
cuddles soon. how long does this thing last again? my memory is fucking garbage.
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>>5607768
Good luck Angie, you can do it
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>>5607768
Good luck
What are you teaching?
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>>5607793
give them heck
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>>5607796
7 hours and 45 minutes

>>5607797
Thanks

>>5607802
I'll try
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>>5607785
Wow, thank you so much for the encouragement. You're fucking awesome ^.^

I'm so sick and tired of being in this stagnant half-fem rut. It's hard to break out. But like you said, I just gotta woman up.

My bf lives a while away and I won't be seeing him until Valentine's. Perhaps I should surprise him, with new-and-improved femme me >:3
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>>5607804
fuck. hang in there.
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Sheen, you are officially become badass. Hope I can build up similar courage. March is going to be a stressful month. If my birthday present isn't a round of cuddles and headpats, I'm reviewing my friends' contracts desu.
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>>5607807
I hope I can
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>>5607815
you gotta, or i can't come die/ in your arms.
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>>5607815
if it's too long you know how to get out early
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>>5607762
wait uuh, why do they need your birth certificate for a job interview?
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>>5607800
Microsoft office
Just fuck my shit up

>>5607818
I gotta survive

>>5607823
Franku has best life hacks
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>>5607860
That should be easy to teach, what year are the students?
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>>5607839
I'm am curious of this now also
>>5607860
allahu lifehax
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whats the best diy srs technique
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>>5607866
9th grade
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>>5607839
>>5607867
to make sure I'm not a dirty foreigner taking an Australians job I guess?
the 457 visas are for doing that
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>tfw made homemade pizza just for partner
>she sits on redit reading while you wait for her to eat it while its getting cold
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>>5607880
she is a cis girl and she only cares about herself
what do you expect
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>>5607880
>tfw no slut to make me pizza and only pay attention to her when I feel like it
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>>5607872
>sheen will never be a dirty foreigner taking my job
t-that's fine I'll just work it I guess. did they say how long you'd have to wait to hear back?
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>>5607883
She's trans as well ;~; I th-think she cares..
>>5607884
I'm only a slut for her though, does that count?
>tfw she sees the post so starts eating it >~>
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http://www.activistpost.com/2016/01/flint-residents-told-that-their-children-could-be-taken-away-if-they-dont-pay-for-citys-poison-water.html

Gotta love how dumb America is
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how do you get a gf
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>>5607888
wednesday apparently
and then I need to ring them on thursday if I don't hear back
but I guess that would automatically mean that I didn't get it
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>>5607911
Ask grill out, Yuri love is best love
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>>5607915
how do you meet a grill though
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>>5607905
>decentralized solutions to water distribution should be a goal that we start working towards.
Pretty dumb

>>5607911
Funpost on mtfg until someone confesses their love to you
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I've been coughing for about 12 hours straight and I feel like death
I just had a large mug of green tea with lime and honey and I can feel my throat again
Now I'm going to take a shower and go to the doctor
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>Tfw have perfect night of cuddling and watching funny anime with cute friends and I feel fantastic
How is everyone else?
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>>5607911
you lie and lie, like guys do all the time
>>5607912
here's hoping they call
>>5607925
that's terrible, I hope it's nothing too serious
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>>5607923
>tfw ur not anyone on mtfg's crush
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>>5607929
Kill yourself
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>>5607932
I-I've always liked you best Maddie...
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>>5607872
interesting
I don't think you'd even need to provide ID here or anything.

well I hope it works out :3

>>5607929
the opposite of that
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>>5607930
Thanks
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>>5607935
O-oh my goodness...
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>>5607923
>taking out one piece that isn't negative and ignoring the other parts
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>>5607932
you're pretty Ms Madeline b-but no homo
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>>5607941
>tfw you will never lift with Maddie
>tfw you will never cook post-wo meal
>tfw you will never cuddle and sex afterwards
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>>5607947
He works for the mercenary, the masketta man...
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>>5607930
I need this job
like, I wasn't joking about the suicide thing...


>>5607932
iktf but at least you have a (you)

>>5607936
>well I hope it works out :3

ty
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>you will never celebrate straya day with jörmy

why bother
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>>5607947
Y-you too
>>5607951
You wouldn't want me anon, Im annoying and bratty and I always have to be the small spoon >.>;;
>>5607957
Yassss that's the stuff
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i want someone to hold me desu
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>>5607957
I really wish you were Sheen ;-; you're too lovely to just disappear, you haven't run out of chances in life a lot of the bad going on in your life was me less than a year ago
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>>5607964
iktf
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shower time
Adderall
a glass of whiskey
and diesel jeans
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>>5607977
nice, thats a combo of things i can agree with for sure
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>>5607967
I'll probably pussy out like usual but its a good chance I'll be upset enough to go through with it
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>>5607986
No you're too pathetic to achieve anything in life, even something as simple as killing yourself. You're going to be posting your garbage here for years.
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>>5607989
Calm down that T rage
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>>5607702
starve urself bitch
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Happy Australia Day
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>>5607986
I was really overweight a year ago and unemployed until less than 6 months ago in a new city with no support or real money in this time I've lost 40kg and could very well be managing my own eb games. you can do this Sheen I believe in you
>>5607989
E P I C
P
I
C
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>>5608009
....i wish i started transiton chubby instead of a toned handsome guy.

Tbh, if transition doesnt work out, i'll feek like i wasted a perfectly fit, handsome boy with respect for women and in touch with his emotions.

....if only i started a little chubby with a softer bone structure
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>>5608009
>lost 40kg
tfw did that once, tfw can't do it again
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>>5608007
Happy straya day cunt
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>>5608009
Sheen needs to lose like 100kg at least
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>tfw loser neet who didnt even graduate high school
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>>5608007
Premature m8.
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>>5608028
how heavy do you think I am?
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>>5608009
I went from unemployed neet at 110kg to 60kg with a shitty job, woo. There is always hope.
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Hiiii everyone. Good morning. Wish me luck on getting to my appointment in the city today. Or a cool fiery explosion if I crash and can't make it.
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>>5608023
You too you cunt

>>5608050
Right time here
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>>5608059
good luck for the non-explosion part
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>tfw you put too much vinegar and not enough olive oil in your salad but if you try to fix it youll probably make it even worse

fuck this gay earth
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>>5608059
good luck at your appointment beepy! nohhh no fiery explosions, only good things
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Been looking for a job for 2 years. Time to bomb parliament or an hero?
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>tfw linking threads to mom
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>>5608078
why
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>>5608078
I really wouldn't, but at least there isn't any kayla posting
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>>5608071

Why not both?
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Happy straya day to every ausgrill on here
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>>5608081
she asks about stuff

>>5608082
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>>5608101
That's adorable lmao
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>>5608098
Happy Aus Day
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>>5608033
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>>5608104
Merry Tony remembrance day
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>>5608108
hi mado
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>you will never give yourself ffs with a shotgun
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Will spiro tits always be pointy and weird or do they eventually even out? What other AAs are available in the US?
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>>5608112
Wew. Why not?
I would have if I could buy one.
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>>5608033
Don't feel bad, there's always adult school/online school. Some places still hire without highschool education. Or maybe you'll find someone to care for your neetness.
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>>5608108
why are you throwing up at me
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>>5608111
Hello there
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>>5607702
OMG my picture on the front page!!<3!!<3<3

I feel like Spider-Girl
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Question on blood work. I ended up having T levels below cis women counts, and no FSH and LH, basically. Do I need FSH and LH at the expected quantities or am I okay with them being nonexistent essentially. I was taking 50mg for that blood test and halved my dosage to 25mg to see if I will still have T controlled with those levels less affected.
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>>5608118
Cause tfw
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>>5607768
Ganbatte senpai!
>>5608033
Almost me tbqhwy.
>>5608112
Stop reading Invisible Monsters then. :^)
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>>5608116
Because i'm yuro.

>tfw strong masculine nordic features and will never pass
>tfw make yourself sick by seeing your man face
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>>5608125
tfw what?
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>>5608110
RIP Tony Abbott who did literally nothing wrong
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>>5608129
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>>5608132
Mado
How many of these pics you got? Post your folder info
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>>5608132
im still confused

pls dont kill me though
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>>5608130
anyone who can be 54% themselves is never wrong
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>>5608033
iktf!
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>>5608114
I was on spjro and my tits were never cones
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>>5608128
Yeah I'm too...
Best freedom they got in the US, that you can just end your life humanely.
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>>5608134
When I'm home and at my computer. Its a decent amount.
>>5608136
No promises
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>>5608114
>>5608142
a lot of bs about what does and doesn't cause what is just anecdotes and wishful thinking

cypro isn't available in the US, tho there are some more atypical ones that I've even been trying to look into
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>>5608033
That's alright bro

I bailed out of a basic computer course
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>tfw just had my first ever multiple orgasm and while post-op

Vaginas are so great, even if they're a vagina made from a recombobulated penis.
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is it weird if some days your left boob is bigger and some days your right boobs is bigger
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>tfw anti-neet services orientation about to start
wew lasses. It's time to learn to love Mr. Goldstein.
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>>5608153
Is it weird youre still AA after 2 years?
What the hell am I doing wrong?
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>>5608153
left boob will in the majority of cases be larger than the right cus its closer to the heart
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Just tried to by titty skittles through all day chemist. Will it go through? And if it does I'll soon be joining you all, what do?
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>>5608112

>ywn giving anon a high five with your hand
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>>5608101
Hi oryx's mom
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>day off
>woke up at 10am
>lay in bed for 4 hours because i should epilate parts that are gonna hurt today and i don't want to
>get up at 2pm and do it
>it doesn't hurt
>what a fucking waste of time

giant epilator that will rip my whole head off FUCKING WHEN. srsly, get on it braun
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>tfw hon and pig disgusting face
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>>5608168
I'm a super silent person, don't make much noise during sex, can't even shout if I wanted to, but epilating my stomach/chest makes me moan in pain.
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>>5608176
I'll pay for your ffs
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>>5608176
>my thoughts manifested into an anon poster
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I was sad so i ate an entire bag of chips and now I regret it

I'm fat please help
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>>5608185
Don't think ffs would be enough, anon.

My head is like 3 times larger than cis women and I have a disgusting man body.
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>>5608185
Not that anon, I wanted to explode in jealousy then I realized no money in the world is gonna fix me...it's not like I cant afford surgeries but nothing can buy me a friend that fixes my inside ;_;

Curious if you're serious though. If I were millionaire I'd make some trannies happy for sure.
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>>5607993
>starve
fuck you cunt
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>>5608200
samefag is obvious samefag
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>>5608185
what an ass
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>>5608148
interesting
what atypical ones?
i'm trying to find a GnRH antagonist.
since the oral non-peptide -golix's are still in clinical trials they're way too expensive, so i'm trying to get hold of an injectible, degarelix. just one shot a month.
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>>5608196
every time
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>you will never be a super successful billionaire business woman
>you will never fulfill the dreams of desperate transgirls everywhere by paying for their transition

Horrible feel
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>>5608198
>If I were millionaire I'd make some trannies happy for sure.
listen to your own words
if people are fucked mentally, no amount of surgery would help
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>>5608180
t-that's hot desu

i don't make a noise its just embarrassing really, my left half of my body is more masculinised than the other side with a difference in body hair development by about 5 years. i have to epilate my ass, but only my left buttcheek. it's not bad in itself but my butt is kinda round and bubbly and its that bit where it meets the thigh and holy shit that usually hurts.

>tfw doing a half assed job of epilating always makes me giggle
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>>5608215
I'm on zoladex which is a gnrh analogue implant that you get every 3 months. Good shit completely nukes T but expensive if you have to pay for it.
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tfw u get to the exit and then the one fucking invisible pinky behind you gets you because you had sound off
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>>5608240
tell me about it. GnRH analogues are much better for you than spiro and cypro but their price is prohibitive. it sucks that it feels like the medical industry is cheaping out on us at the expense of our health.
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>>5608226
My transition unfucked me a bit, trust me.
It's just that I've got absolutely noone to "be female" around. I'm a proper tomboy and I hate all of it and wanna let go of my old super masculine self, just never learned how.
And the loneliness alone is driving me mad.

>>5608236
Thats odd. Epilating always makes my skin look real bad and it never stops looking like I got minor acne all over.
I don't dare epilating my butt though.
Plus walls are thin, I don't wanna moan, bloody hell.
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>>5608250
Pharmaceutical companies are legit evil
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so i have like
7 hours to do this basically because i'm getting dick later. i woke up like an hour ago i'm soOoOoOo bored. like i kind of want to make breakfast but then i'm like ... or u could not and u could just fuck a lot tonight worry free lmao. i already epilated 80% of my bod so... prepping for sex is annoying

wyd mtfg how is your monday going?
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I just took some photos of myself to send to a new hair stylist I'm going to be seeing. For the first time ever I think I look like a girl. No tricky angles or anything, when the fuck did this happen? Can't stop smiling now.
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>tfw you jerk off to alleviate the stupid pent up sexual tension from avoiding jerking off so you can think clearly
>finish
>feel like a disgusting man

thanks
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>>5608263
It's going great. I'm finally starting to accept what I am. I think I'm leaving LA today and transitioning back home.
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>>5608256
I'm all alone too, and it's probably one of the main reasons I'm here and doing this
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>>5608281
that's nice that your family will be there for you
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>>5608240
Just googled prices
>easily $950+ for one shot.

Hell, i could save up cash for srs or an orchi by foregoing the injection and using normal aa's
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>>5608285
Doing what?
If you want we could skype when I get home.
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>>5608291
Well that's the thing. I've only told my mother but first thing I'm doing when I get home if telling everyone else...

It's gonna be too much fun.
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Aw the trans Lieutenant colonel didn't win Australian of the year, I liked her. At least the winner was baller as fug.
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>>5608293
Come live with me and you can get it for free from the NHS.
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>>5608300
I only just heard about Aussie of the year thing.
Only candidates I heard about were the trans army person and the army dude about equality.
Who were the other people?
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>>5608302
I can hear the sound of kayla raging at this already
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>>5608298
why not lay low and save money and have a plan (job, place to stay) should things go bad at home
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>>5608302
if you know how to get GnRH analogues on the NHS through a gender identity clinic pls share your wisdom with me srsly.
i honestly thought they'd just put me on spiro or cypro which is why i decided to skip the bullshit red tape and self med.
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>>5608307
http://www.australianoftheyear.org.au/honour-roll/?view=results&year=2016&categoryID=0&desc=Australian+of+the+Year+2016

But yeah David Morrison is gr8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaqpoeVgr8U
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>mfw atheists whine about being suicidal because their life sucks
Why dont they just fucking kill themselves if theyre so convinced there is no god or anything. Not like they have hell to be afraid of, just end yourself if life is so shit, youre gonna die now or later anyways and since NOTHING happens when you die you might as well just get it over with.
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>>5608312
My gender therapist is like the most wonderful person in the world. She got me started on hormones and blockers asap, didn't have to wade through any of the bullshit other people here have to. I don't even see an endo because she says they give sub par medication so I just get the good stuff straight from her. I guess you just have to get lucky.
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>>5608321
i've had nothing but bad luck with the nhs in other areas of my health :/
would it be too much to ask who the gender therapist was or where/which area she works?
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>at doctors office waiting because of a cold
>nurse comes out to call a name
"ANITA DICK"
>someone actually stands up and follows her
W O W
O
W O W
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>>5608312
No doctor in the uk is going to put you on spiro crap, we're not barbaric Americans. The standard aa's over here are cypro and lupron or a similar gnrh
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>>5608332
Is this bait? Why would you take hormones if you don't want boobs?
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>>5608328
She's based in Edinburgh, Dr Kennedy
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>>5608332
You are a fucking idiot
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reposting this here from my thred, pls advise:

I'm years into HRT but still living as a guy because I look nothing like a girl. I probably will never be happy with myself even if I get FFS. I'm over 6 feet tall with a very male frame, there's no surgery for that shit. I'll never have kids or probably even have a good long term relationship. I'll have to take medication all my life. etc.

So i've been thinking about just stopping HRT and trying to be a normal guy, start lifting and shit so I actually look presentable as SOMETHING instead of a giant androgynous mess with manboobs that's scared of being seen by people. But i'm worried that i'll just start having bad dysphoria again, and then my HRT progress will be lost. After all, estrogen supposedly alleviates dysphoria, so maybe i'm just feeling that and if I go back then i'll feel like shit. Right now i'm feeling like this is just a mental illness that I can potentially transcend by fulfilling a more masculine role. I'm not even feeling bad about visualizing myself as a man, in fact it seems a lot better than what I am now.

What do you think, would this be a mistake? Anyone have experience with this?
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>>5608320

wew lad
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>>5608320
Well, you seem to think atheists are all selfish amoral jerks. Actually, most of us know something lives on when one dies. Nothing really mysterious about it either, it's just called memories. And bad memories can really mess someone up. So, even when you're desperate, knowing the last memory you'll leave is that of a grisly, self-inflicted death and that it will likely fuck up people who care about you, some of them permanently. Well, that's enough to stay someone's hand. To go easily? Well, that would require both a lack of faith, and a strongly rooted belief in one's complete isolation. It happens.
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>>5608340
>>5608336
alright alright, i get it, im an idiot.

I just thought i was trans before, then i decided im not, but by then i'd already started hrt and it just made me feel good about myself. I liked what it did to my face and most of my body, and controlled my libido and made me feel calm and a lot more sane.

When i ran out,i told myself i was done with it, but then i started hating the way my face looked again, i started getting thicker body and facial hair. I looked coarse and rugged, and my self esteem started to drop again, so i just decided to buy another load. Then when i ran out again i panicked and bought another load. I just like them, i don't want to transition, but i just want to be feminine, and feel good about myself.
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>>5608338
>tfw i tried to touch base with an old friend of mine in edinburgh hoping to come out to her... still no reply
thanks though!

>>5608335
hmmm. does anyone know what it's like dealing with the initial surge going onto a GnRH agonist? do they prescribe finasteride or something else to stop that surge spiking your DHT until your test drops again?

>>5608343
if i were in your shoes (and i'm kinda heading that way) i'd keep on the hrt but start lifting and hide my manly frame behind muscles. female bodybuilders are a thing and the muscle mass might misdirect peoples' attention and give them a reason for your manly frame "oh, she works out, probably does roids that's why she looks like a man". you'll (we'll) still need FFS to really pully this off though, and don't actually do roids. at most cycle ligandrol.
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>>5608358
if the breasts are a problem for you, raloxifene maybe? it's used to treat breast cancer (and endometrial but that doesn't count for us), and osteoporosis. it's a weaker estrogen agonist than the usual like estradiol, but it's an antagonist in breast tissue and has been used off-label for gyno in males granted it hasn't progressed too much.
what it could do:
-prevent and even reverse your breast development
-retain/maintain the feminine features you want to keep
-protect your bone mineral density
-your libido will still be controlled (killed)
-you'll possibly be more prone to depression than on proper estrogen
-carries the same types of risks for thromboembolic events as other estrogens, i don't know if to a greater or lesser extent than estradiol valerate.
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>>5608358
Just stay on the fucking hormones and get the double mastectomy. There. You can now live as a sterile man with a significantly female body and hormone profile. This yoyo business is just making you crazy.
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>>5608358
>hating your body
>hrt making you sane
Apply whatever labels you want to yourself, you have gender dysphoria. What made you decide you aren't trans? You sound trans.
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>>5608387
sounds more like a nutjob
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>>5608387
yeah they probably are but i look at it this way.you can probably treat whatever the etiological origin of gender dysphoria is as discreet. that is, you're natally predisposed to want to present as the gender other than the one you were assigned. it's kind of a "nature" thing, whereas your life events, or "nurture", might lead you to feel insecure about fully expressing that to the point that it becomes engrained and really hard to feel secure completely letting go of other gender signifiers.
so that's the way i see it really is that a lot of non-binary people are probably the same kind of gender dysphoria with conflicting insecurities.
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>still at doctors office, reading a book
>50~ish year old man starts talking to me, says I look like someone he knew named Jason
>shake my head and say no, go back to reading
>he keeps talking to me for a few minutes before deciding to bother someone else
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>>5608387
I'm just not. I don't feel like i am female, although i don't really see myself as a man. I don't want to transition nor do i think it would be worth it. It would be humiliating and potentially just make me look worse.

I would like to be female, but i don't know if that's really it.
>>5608385
I know. Maybe one day i'll have the money and balls to do it.
>>5608381
Is it expensive?
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>several months on hormones
>have to go to a funeral where my ridiculously bigoted family will be
>they already think I'm a fag and keep searching for signs (not out to them)
>boytits.jpeg

fuck
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>wake up
>no food in the fridge
;_;
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>>5608406
yes. more expensive than estradiol. you can buy 84 x 2mg progynova on QHI for €14.20. so how many would you take a day? for your purpose i'm assuming definitely no more than 4mg, so for 84 days you're paying €28.40.
84 x 60mg raloxifene, more like €158.
you'd only want to take one a day so you don't get a pulmonary embolism or some shit, so you're not going to see further feminization, i'm just guessing you'd hopefully see maintenance of what you've achieved on estrogen.
you're paying more for less results, but that's the price you pay for not wanting boobs.
one option could be to cycle between raloxifene and estradiol?
take raloxifene until the breast development subsides, go back on estradiol until it starts becoming a problem again (since it'd be cheaper to be on estradiol), then jump back on raloxifene.
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>>5608406
You don't have to transition to be trans. Moreover, the 'mentally female' aspect of being trans is overstated, you were raised male, everyone here was, you're not going to feel like a woman under those circumstances.
>I would like to be female
Trans. Sorry f.am.

Nobody is saying you have transition or follow any sort of traditional course for dealing with it, but it really does sound like you're dancing around the reality that you have gd and you would rather be female.
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Hey, I'm new here and I feel awful.
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>>5608429
You'll fit right in.
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>>5608429
What's wrong?
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>>5608224
iktf
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>>5608429
Hi Kathy and yeah welcome to the pit of self wallowing in misery
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>>5608406
Check out your insurance coverage. It's not uncommon for preventative mastectomy to be a covered procedure.
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>>5608413
I have something in my pants you can eat ;)
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>>5608429
Welcome to hell
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>>5608198
>>5608197
>>5608194
>>5608185
>>5608176
>tfw your mom supports you in whatever decision but has no money for the absurd amount of work on your face
>>5608429
Welcome friend. Post your feels senpai.
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>>5608437
I have a lot of doubts about my gender identity although I know that I am a girl and the thought of being stuck in a man's body for the rest of my life depresses me. Still, it's hard for me to let go of doubts and uncertainty. I might be having full-blown panic attacks these days if I wasn't on anti-depressants already (been there).
On the upside, I feel more confident in coming out to my mom every day. I'm tired of hiding my epilator and make-up ;-;
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>>5608302
I'd drive you crazy.
....hopefully crazy enough to have you orchi me.
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>>5608449
why is the pit so deep
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>>5608457
Doubts are pretty shit
I've experienced them a lot
Somedays I could be going from full-blown self-hatred dysphoria to "Am I really trans?"
Don't let that get to you.
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I have an interview to a locksmith job in 4 hours, I am afraid out of my mind. It will be my first real interview. How do I not panic and look weird?
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>>5608462
You tell me desu, thats a question i've been asking for a long time ;_;
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>>5608463
>Somedays I could be going from full-blown self-hatred dysphoria

I feel like screaming every other hour. At least the unceasing sadness makes me motivated to exercise to distract myself with physical exertion. It's a weird feeling to care about my body for my own sake instead of pleasing anybody else.
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>>5608468
be friendly, smile. =]
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>>5608468
Try not to be a cunt.
>oh wait ... this could be a lie, too
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>>5608468
Look up details about the company.
http://www.inc.com/travis-bradberry/how-to-ace-the-50-most-common-interview-questions.html
Pretend to be tony stark. I'm not kidding. Watch iron man 1. Pay attention to how tony stark acts. Pretend to be him.
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>>5608468
Be everything you aren't I guess.
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>>5608480
But tony stark is a rich attractive man :(((
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Is 2mg of Progynova too low? I will be getting bumped up to 4mg in 2 months. A lot of websites say 6-8mg is recommended dose, but all the actual medical recommendations in Au say 2-4mg.
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>>5608472
I'll have to commend you for that, I've been doing some unhealthy things as of late because of dysphoria.
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>>5608484
Robert Downy Junior did spend time in jail.
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>>5608486
2mg is low, 4mg is typical, 6mg is typical for people that poorly absorb estradiol. For very poor absorbers I've heard as high as 8mg.
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>>5608480
Well I watched wolf of wall st this morning with an entire pot of coffee. I don't know what to do, I feel worried I can't answer anyone's questions and I actually weep when I look people in the eye.
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>>5608500
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>>5608500
move some place where the mentally challenged get helpers for their day to day life, it's the only way you'll ever live "independently"
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hihihihihiihihhihhihihihihihihihi

:3
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>>5608500
Do you have health insurance? It sounds like you have pretty bad issues besides dysphoria and could need some counselling or more intense psychotherapy to deal with life.
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>>5608508
post butt
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>>5608492
can you start on 4mg though? or should you have a month of 2mg first? idk
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>>5608510
:O L-l-lewd

p-plus its only 16:26 ><
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>>5608510
yes let's all go to jail
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>>5608511
i'm not rushing on to a higher dose of estradiol, i'm sticking with 2mg for now. the most important thing to do is nuke your test.
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>>5608514
underage pls leave

>>5608513
post butt!
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>>5608509
Dont waste your time replying to Kayla, shes histrionic as fuck
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>>5608509
>Do you have health insurance?
I am getting on it oficially today any time I can pick up the phone but I have phobias over using the phone because my mom would beat me up when I was younger because I answered the phone and the guy she was cheating with would be on the other line.

But yeah I have horrible social anxiety. I became a hermit just to avoid humans as much as possible and every time I go near people I feel they are all looking at me and judging me poorly. I went to the mall for an interview shirt a month ago and I threw up because too many people were there and they all made me feel like they hated me.
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>>5608520
no lewdanon ><
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>>5608426
>Trans. Sorry f.am.

>Nobody is saying you have transition or follow any sort of traditional course for dealing with it, but it really does sound like you're dancing around the reality that you have gd and you would rather be female.

just fuck my shit up f a m
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>>5608527
butt?
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>>5608531
t-t-too lewd :O
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>>5608526
So how many more lies can you produce today?
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>>5608524
Kayla and Haysack sitting in a tree
W-H-I-N-I-N-G
"My life is terrible can't you see...
WHY ISN'T ANYONE LOOKING AT ME!?"
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>>5608517
yeah, i'm starting 25mg spiro though and ramping up a little quicker, 2 weeks instead of 1 month
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how do you make your boobs bigger
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>>5607702
Please add this link to the next OP for makeup resources:

http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
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>>5608538
oh shi... am i doing something wrong by starting on 100mg?
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>>5608534
=[
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>>5608543
I started on 100
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>>5608542
Nice link desu

>>5608541
Massage them
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>>5608550
n-no lewdanon ><
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>>5608556
=P
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>>5608536
Its totally the truth. I get afraid as fuck and usually never answer my phone. I haven't even made my clinic appointment for a hrt refill because I am afraid of being yelled by the person I am talking to. Every time I talk to a person now it seems like they hate me and are scolding me, I can only see people as hate filled monsters trying to hurt me.
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>>5608553
i need specific techniques
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>tfw no boy to slap you and cum on your face
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>>5608517
Yeah, I know I should just wait 2 months but I want it now. Hopefully 50mg cypro is enough as well. I've read of higher dosages but my GP is pretty firm that nobody would ever need more than 50mg so increasing it is silly.
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>>5608562
Dont ask me my breasts are non-existant rn
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>>5608567
1 7 3 8 yah ay ay
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>>5608541
Implants. Scroll though the vid, person went from A cups to DD cups in seconds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luNahOEvqco
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>>5608571
nice meme
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>>5608579
or this vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZk5CdFCkys
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hello everyone
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>>5608543
i may do the same. i'm just paranoid about strong side effects
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I'm going outside to exercise. Ignoring onlookers when I take my nordic walking sticks with me might actually be exercise for going girl-mode. Who knows? See ya later girls~
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>>5608599
takwe care kathy =]
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>had a dream where I overheard my mom noticing signs about me changing
>decided to come out to her in the dream
>she wasn't accepting at all and basically disowned me
Well guess I'm not doing that for a while
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>tfw not being held
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>>5608619
=[
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Good night
Happy Australia Day
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>>5608529
Sorry, I know it's not what you want to hear, but we've all seen the denial dance before.
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>>5608538
It's probably not necessary to start that low, if you have an allergy to Spiro you'd know after your first dose. 100mg is a more typical starting dose. I was dumb and started with 200mg.
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>tfw every feature on face is super masculine and awful man body
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>>5608634
iktf
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>>5608468
I hope I'm not being a bitch in asking this, but how many 'first real interviews' have you had in the past few weeks?
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>tfw keeping my insurance after all
>tfw it covers FFS and SRS
>tfw it might cover BA
I don't know how to describe this feel. I want to scream.
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Daily reminder that all passers in this thread started HRT with:
>a weak chin
>little brow bossing
>a round face
If you don't have these things you're gonna have a bad time.
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>>5608632
alright, thank you! i feel a lot more excited now since i don't have to start super low.
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>>5608641
What insurance covers FFS?!
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>>5608637
Not like I ever wanted to pass anyway.

>>5608645
This is true.
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>>5608632
>>5608648
erin didn't notice a reaction to spiro until hitting 3-4 weeks in when hitting full dose
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Ay, I'm 5 months on mones. Is it common to feel like they haven't done jack for your face? People say they see it but I feel like they're bullshitting me to keep me from killing myself
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>>5608652
NYSHIP does.
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>>5608648
>>5608655
Seriously? I didn't know erin had a spiro allergy, or that it took that long to show up. I've heard mostly of breaking out in hives or feeling like crap almost immediately.

>>5608638
>believing kayla
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>>5608659
>implying hrt does anything for your face
Oh anon.
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>>5608661
Had my code disabled on another board desu.
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>>5608664
i guess i'll just start at 100 for 2 weeks then up to 4 after that.
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>>5608664
It was shortness of breath and breathing issues for a bit. Probably not an allergy but some other sort of bad reaction.
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>>5608671
up to 200** not 4 wtf
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>>5608665
Softening of skin and padding your cheekbones with fat, to name a couple.
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Tfw Kayla the pathological liar will never constantly lie to you and tell you that you pass
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>>5608681
I still have manly skin on my manly face.
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>>5608682
I'd rather she tell me I don't pass...
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fuck
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>>5608645
I-I hope that describes me... I hope girls in this thread who get dysphoria about their skull structure can all get facial feminization surgery eventually :/
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>>5608727
post pic we will tell you
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>>5608694
rip
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>>5608659
Super common. Everyone that I knew through that period said my face changed a lot, I didn't notice any changes.

>>5608674
Blood pressure related? I had an adverse reaction to spiro as well but it took 2 years to develop. Glad she's alright though.

>>5608671
That's reasonable, good luck!
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>>5608727
Most tgirls look like the Red Skull from Marvel lol
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>>5608727
At least Kyler never will.
Curious what this place would be like if people werent so awfully poor though.
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>>5608726
Real dysphoria hours! Who tf crying?!?!?! Why you ain't smash that mf kill me button?!?!?!
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>>5608739
Whose in your butt recently?
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>>5608740
>tfw I have that chin and jaw
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>>5608739
>Everyone that I knew through that period said my face changed a lot, I didn't notice any changes.

I guess it's one of those things that progresses so slowly that the person in question just can't even tell. Kind of like hair growth, you don't notice until it's really fucking long.
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>>5608736
I would if posting pics of myself on 4chan didn't seem like such a terrible idea and if I didn't abhor photos of myself that much.
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>>5608740
>ywn be anything but a red faced NatSoc
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>>5608740
>tfw arab genes
Of all the people I really should look like that but somehow I dont.
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>>5608752
>basketball shoulders
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>>5608754
Allah doesn't want you to transition
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>>5608757
aww you're jelly, how cute
still doesnt make her less dead you jelly jellyfish
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>>5608763
how she ded?
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>>5608747
One thing I noticed pretty quickly was the change in skin quality. Went from thick, oily, skin to a thinner, pretty balanced one in a matter of months. Made me look a lot younger. Of course, I now have to use both day and night skin creams, since I'm not really as young as I look and estradiol is bound to make it really dry if I don't care.
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>>5608764
Suicide, probably because of mean hons like >>5608757
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>>5608747
It's residual self image. I don't see a lot of difference years later, although I know that my face has changed. It takes a long time to work past that.

>>5608745
What do you mean?
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>>5608645
>tfw have all of the above
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>>5608771
lizbell is a cruel mistress
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>>5608773
Have you got that bp stretched this year?
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>tfw noone will help you escape your life
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So I have to watch Lola Rennt by tomorrow and they're only showing it at school late at night so I read the summary on Wikipedia
What the actual fuck
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>>5608760
But then why did he grace me with an okay face?
Curse him for my shoulders though. And pretty much everything else.
I need a body transplant.
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>>5608779
>>5608779
a cruel man
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>>5608783
>tfw all hrt was turn me into a twink
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>>5608771
>>5608763
Jokes on you im a cis male with no dysphoria
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Do you have any tips for coming out to my family guys? I've had a few close calls already and each time my mom gets more upset with the idea of me being trans.
>in high school she was upset with me because I kept shaving my arms and legs
>first day of college she found my stash of girl clothes and wanted to take me to a psychiatrist for a moment before I told her that was stupid
>since then she's found girl clothes and makeup a few more times
>she's convinced it's a phase and tells me that it's stupid
I'm 20 now and about to start self-medding. Wat do?
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>>5608790
>tfw all hrt did was turn me into a man with long hair

>>5608794
>mom watching tv
>hi mom i'm a tranny
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>>5608786
That movie is hot garbage
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>>5608726
my MEME
ctfu bruh
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>>5608791
a cis male judging trans girls? you're a real winner
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>>5608796
It looks like it but it's German so I get to be told to watch it for class
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>>5608783
>tfw noone will help you find back into life
Escaping is easy.
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>>5608789
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>>5608757
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>>5608773
My self image is ten kinds of fucked up. I'm not even sure I still have a proper one.
Would help if I didn't have memories of dead people getting pretty invasive when I look in the mirror. I've given up FFS plans for now. Don't want to end up asking the surgeon to look like a dead lover of mine because I wasn't in control...
Anyway, I know I've changed because some women have become increasingly jealous of my looks. That's a good sign in my book.
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>>5608799
I do it because it makes me hard
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>>5608807
everyone is so jealous of your looks
mine too
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>>5608727
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>>5608803
I suppose that's more of what I meant, want to do that together anon?
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>>5608811
JUST
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>>5608796
I thought it was cool.
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>>5608811
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>>5608811
Lookin good, hon!
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>>5608811
Is this what transbians look like?
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>>5608817
Sure, but how?
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>>5608818
>>5608820
>>5608823
>>5608830
tfw its more passable than any of you
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>>5608811
Me in 6months desu
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Are the meanies in these threads trells or insecure tgirls who project their self-hatred on others?
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>>5608837
That hairline is must be connected to his asscrack
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>>5608807
I'm trying to learn to trust other people's feedback instead of my own. It's hard to ignore mirrors though. ;~;

>>5608781
Nope ;~;
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>>5608847
its okay, at least you dont look like this hon
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>>5608843
The only way a trip will be spared from mean comments is by posting a few good butt pics.
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>>5608855
Basically being told butts or gtfo on 4chan makes me somehow... good? Gender is so weird.
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>>5608852
That face makes me so hard. Somewhere deep inside, he has already realized that he will never be a woman. I'd just want to ravish that pathetic man-ass while whispering mean things in his ear.
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>>5608862
*somehow feel
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>>5608836
I'm not sure, we're probably both neets
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>>5608865
none of us will ever be women, but we can aspire to be pale imitations

we have that
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>>5608872
true
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>>5608843
the latter i think
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>>5608847
Well, it's what I do anyway because with my depression, I'll always hate my looks. Nah, what really bugs me is when I find myself daydreaming and expecting to look like someone who isn't me at all and feeling properly shocked by what I see. I usually manage to reassert control right after it, but... Well, I don't want this to get worse.
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>>5608872
I can never be the badass shonen protagonist of the show I saw as a preteen, but I can shitpost all day long

I have that
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>>5608852
>lol I posted it again

>>5608865
Wtf man
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>>5608876
Do you take any of your meds anally?
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>>5608883
wtf man
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>>5608881
pretty much

you can at least cosplay though. which show?
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>>5608871
We're probably not even in the same country. I'm probably NEET these days but thats definitely not the real me.
Where are you at?
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>tfw you have to hide half your face to even look a tiny bit feminine
>tfw huge manly features
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>>5608889
The US, I'm a neet
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>>5608886
Darker than BLACK

I'm not sure I could cosplay chinese electricity man
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>>5608885
Is he fatter than Jocelyn?
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Pre-hrt. Do I have potential?
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>>5608900
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>>5608894
Figures, I'm german.
Just fly over here imo.
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>>5608913
yes
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>>5608921
That shadow makes it look like you have a moustache
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>>5608923
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>>5608918
>german
Eww
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>>5608923
They're spectacularly ugly either way.
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>>5608895
you should go for it if it'll make you happy though!
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>>5608926
Wot?
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>>5608937
No one likes a Nazi.
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>>5608936
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>>5608940
point taken.

but i think there's a point at which your "haha, i'm dressing up as this character!" becomes "i think i am this character! look at me!

as long as you're self aware + willing to laugh at yourself you can do whatever you want. most people here are not prepared to do that.
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>>5608938
NEET confirmed.
Jerk.
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>>5608940
Q'plah!
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>>5608952
Enjoy that muslim cock invasion, Hans.
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>tfw u look in the mirror and see a man wearing makeup
fuuuuck. i hate this ;_;
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>>5608968
Sure thing kiddo.
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>>5608974
>tfw I look at old maddie butt pics and I want to berry deep inside
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>>5608974
well you aren't passable, just being honest sweetie
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>>5608985
i hope i don't get beaten to death today because i'm already dressed and wearing makeup and i have to go outside now but i don't want to
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Daily reminder that sitting on Mtfg likely makes self image issues worse
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>>5608989
tbhonest, you probably make people feel sorry for you
guys only beat up hot trans girls because they trick them, people like you and Cait jenner dont fool anyone so you're totally safe
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>>5608989
Would you rather get beat up or get your butt virgity taken away?
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Could I pass?
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>wake up
>go for my run
>get back and eeat something
>shit post for a bit
>read this
http://noisey.vice.com/blog/death-metal-misogyny
>kek
>next I have to stuff
>need to call people about srs stuff
>apply for jobs after that
>code
>maybe go see my therapist about getting a letter about srs
Also tumblr hugboxed me.

https://www.reddit.com/r/transpassing/comments/42jztd/mtf_475_years_hrt_no_make_up_how_well_do_i_pass/
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>>5609045
Post buttock?
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>>5609045
yikes, you really don't pass though
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i'm back :D
>>5609047
Lewd-anon, you're still here?
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>wake up feeling like I was BORN a girl xD
12:00pm
>miserable man dude man


How do I make it stop??
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>>5609073
Accept reality.
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>>5609072
=]
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>>5609074
So what you're saying if they every girl has low points in her daily life and it's normal.

Thanks, anon. :)
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>tfw no way to escape the hugbox
>tfw people have lost the ability to be honest
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>>5609088
Show me. I'll tell you like it is, bitch.
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>Get notification from BAH
>"We are pushing you out an additional month"
Welp. Fuck it. I'm getting the hell out of this area.

Who wants to drive trucks?!
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>>5609088
>tfw getting hugboxxed everywhere you go
>tfw you know your delusional, but still can only see the man in the mirror staring into your soul.
also, unsee it to me senpai. i won't hugbox you desu.
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>>5609094
I'm already being called ugly and stuff.
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>>5609102
Whatever
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>>5609101
Nayzak is the best./
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>>5609102
You like that, don't you? Slut.
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>>5609102
well... you probably are
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>>5609108
Yeah whatever dude.

>>5609111
No because i'm too manly to go fix it without making the other people uncomfortable.
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>>5609088
>>5609101
>tfw I unintentionally hugbox
What the fuck do I say to someone who says the want to kill themselves? I want to kill myself too, but I've never been in the position I'm at.
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>>5609118
IM UGLY AND HATE HUGBOXING
>show a pic
NO I DONT WANT TO BE HUGBOXED BECAUSE IM SO MUCH MORE PASSABLE THAN EVERYONE HERE
>tard
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>tfw your family makes you want to neck yourself
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>>5609123
>do whatever makes you happy :3

>>5609125
Except I don't pass at all faggot, I look like a man with long shitty hair.
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>>5609123
tell them you know how it feels. tell them that it is a legitimate act. it is courageous, yet it is a large act. it is not something to do in the spur of the moment. take a week to dwell on it and plan. if you feel just a bit better, put it off for another week. after all, our lives are so short, what's another few weeks in the context of all of history? that's what i'd say, but i dunno. i'm not good at encouragement desu.
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>>5609127
Just imagine the shame you bring unto them
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>>5609132
I'm not telling someone I care about to do what makes them happy, because that'd be suicide. Or maybe I'm just selfish..
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>>5609132
well you are a man with long shitty hair...
Theres no way you look worse and any less manly than "melly" here
i'm sure you're okay
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>>5608843
A little of both. Also Ignore the suicide troll Tilly is fine. Talking to her now.l
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>>5609146
i bet you're popular at school
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>>5609156
post butt
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>>5609147
Then you're a shitty friend.

>>5609150
I look so manly people force themselves to be nice and hugbox me.
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>>5609156
I am actually ;)
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>>5609162
Good for you, now get out there and live your life
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>go outside
>get misgendered
i shouldn't have left my apartment today. i hate being trans
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>>5609169
have you tried bitching about everything?

works well! just see how well it worked for kayla
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>>5609169
boymode until you fail. its the only way
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got myself a new mug from goodwill
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>>5609183
whatever, i hardly bitch about everything. sorry for posting my feelings about being trans in this thread made specifically for that
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>>5609188
>tfw perfect man mode that never fails.
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>>5609189
nice
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>>5609196
aww you just want to be hugboxed because you're manly

theres a thread for that you know
> /hons/
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>>5609169

ik it sucks but the further along you get the less it'll happen, until it never happens. don't let it get u down.
and then you'll be like me and just get rejected once you spill your tea to men who hit on you incessantly irl. life is great!!!
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>>5609196
why do you take the anons seriously? just filter it out
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>>5609217
you dont filter anons hon
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>>5609183
IT DOESN'T WORK. i keep trying tho.
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>>5609223
did i say filter the anons? did i fucking stutter? i said filter it out.
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>>5609235
wow, check your t levels bro, you're really upset
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>>5609237
my t levels are pretty high right now yes on account of me not starting my hrt yet

no but really, i'm not emotionally unstable and i truly don't care about the fact that i'm biologically a man. just getting that out of the way so you can shitpost more effectively. don't my previous posts in this thread give you some indication that i don't think like most of the posters here?
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>>5609210
thanks. it probably wouldn't have stung as much if i wasn't already dysphoric today but w/e, i'm starting voice therapy in like 2 weeks and things are getting better. i think that might be the first time i've been misgendered (although i've definitely been clocked) since going ft
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>tfw too manly to ever pass
>tfw ugly as fuck pig disgusting face
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>>5609263
face fits the person
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>>5609258
aww you're upset because you're a crossdresser and not a cute passable girl

thats pretty gross actually

this thread is for mtf, not mt-crossdresser
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/mtfg/, how drastic has your bra size changed over your transition? When I first started wearing them, I wore a 34A, and did for about eight months, but over the past six months I had to switch to a 34B, now (Two years in) I wear a 32C, and it's starting to not fit me right. Could muscle and weight changes combined with waist training moving some of my ribs around explain the drastic change? After training for a bit today I realized the changes started a short time after starting to train. After I order a smaller corset I feel it won't be long before I'm a 30D or something, if things continue as they are.
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>>5609282
it hasn't, dfc for life
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>>5609275
i am both cute and passable, but you can't change chromosomes. what are you not understanding?
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>>5609287
prove it hon
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>>5609262

yeah i totally get that. when you feel dysphoric even without getting clocked you think everyone is staring you down and knows ur secretly a man lmao!!! jk but you know what i mean.
once your voice passes you'll feel a lot more confident and things will get loads easier too. idk. transitioning is a process. like i wasn't ever really misgendered once i started living full time but that was because i had a ton of extensions in and wore 5 gallons of makeup so even when i got clocked ppl knew what i wanted to be called. it takes years to get to the point where you like ... you know get comfortable with accepting yourself, then experiment more with your look, then (hopefully) starting hormones, then figuring out what style DOES work for you, and getting your voice where you want etc........ it takes at least 2 years in total to be 100% where you wanna be. so ya. it's fine. ur a work in progress don't be so hard on yourself.
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>>5609282
i don't wear a bra and if i ever do it's just going to be one of those sports bras to hold everything in
so i have no idea
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>>5609288
i've posted my selfie before, if you care that much go look through the archives.

trolling me really doesn't do much, since i see trans shit in general as a mental illness too. i'm just taking the only path i can to deal with it. does it make me a retard? yep. does it make me a freak? yep.

gets me through the day though, and i'm cute enough to live the life i want to lead. can i help with anything else?
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>>5609301
calm down man
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>>5609288
Want to spit at a real hon? Have at me. I hope you've got better insults that what you've thrown around so far.
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>>5609306
you asked faggot, neck yourself
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>>5609310
I thought you'd be waaay younger
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>>5609321
same, i hope im not here when im 50
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>>5609169
/huggie

Be strong for all of us ;_;
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>>5609323
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>>5609330
Welcome to the Hotel Trannyfornia...
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>>5609335
Such a lovely place...
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>>5609330
Fixed the photo for ya
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>>5609335
that was horrible

kill yourself
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>tfw ugly as fuck and probably look like a man
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>>5609343
>that was horrible
Thank you. I aim to displease.
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When did you first notice the first effect of your HRT? What was it?
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>>5609346
>tfw
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>>5609347
Then fucking kill yourself
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>>5609347
Or are you programmed to displease
You can check out anytime you like
But you can never LEAVE
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>>5609348
puffy nips like a week in?
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>>5609349
>tfw everyone says you're ugly
>tfw can't fix ugly
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>>5609348
>When did you first notice the first effect of your HRT?
1-2 weeks
>What was it?
softer skin

apart from the psychological effects of finally having started it.
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>>5609357
didn't say you're ugly and you can fix your hair, lose weight, glasses etc.
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>>5609352
I already did. They just wouldn't let my body die.
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>>5609362
Not only you.

I wish I wasn't too manly to go get a proper haircut.
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>>5609363
suicide isn't a joke you stupid asshole
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>>5609371
Think I don't know that? Think again. I spent the last nine months in a nuthouse because of what I just mentioned.
>>
Anyone SUPER SMART with voices? apparently my pitch is around 240Hz permanently and I am unsure if thats too squeaky. I also wonder if lowering it could make it louder and less monotonous

>>5609371
on 4chan everything is a joke.
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>>5609357
I'm literally sitting next to an ugly cis girl but her fashion sense is impeccable.
She is ugly,but she has taste. Taste good a long way.

It's not ALL about being pretty.
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>>5609381
I sound like a tranny at 250Hz and my man voice is 170Hz ;_;

>>5609382
I have taste too but i'm not confident enough to go fix myself.

Too manly to leave my apartment.
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>tfw you will never get pregnant
its not fair my taint is begging for it
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>>5609348
my insomnia eased off really quickly.
bout 2 weeks in i noticed my pee smelled different.
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>>5609348
significantly reduced anxiety
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>>5609385
Prove you have taste. Link me one cute blouse.
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>>5609385
>my man voice is 170Hz
Can you even call it a man voice at that pitch?
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>>5609396
No, I don't think there's anything wrong with my taste though.

Just been neet for way too long and now i'm too manly to fix myself.

>>5609399
I think so, it's pretty manly and intimidating.
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>>5609407
How can you think you have good taste if you can't prove it. Kill yourself, muh nigga
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Finished my first day of teaching.
Didn't have to stay for the last class because the teacher (who I'm colaborating with) had a doctor's appointment.

Kids are shits
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>>5609412
at least your aren't as manly as lizbell
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>>5609412
Did it go well?
>>
how do you cope with /soc/ hugboxxing you?
>>5609412
how bad was it? are they normal 0th grade shitters or fucking total cunts?
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>>5609310
I think youre lovely. I mean, handle those whisker pores, wear something your age, and be sure to nail your voice....

But i think youre lovely
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>>5609407
>170Hz
>manly and intimidating
That's teenage boy territory lain. My "man voice" is lower than yours, and my voice didn't even fully drop.
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>>5609423
thats better than your mom hugboxing you, mine called me pretty a few minutes ago and im not even out to anyone yet
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>>5609423
did any other trannies post in that thread?
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>>5609419
Way to go off topic

>>5609422
It was fine

>>5609423
Just nornal highschool kids.
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>>5609429
whats your Hz nowadays?

>>5609431
>not out and getting called cute
oh anon, I have some news for you
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>>5609429
I think it's because I don't use it a lot because it can get really manly.

How do I stop sounding like a tranny at higher pitch though or at least stop sounding like anime. It doesn't really fit a man beast such as myself.
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>>5609431
i wake up to my mom hugboxxing me. ;~~;
>pleb, you're lucky you're cute.
>>5609433
i don't think so? or at least i didn't clock em.
>>5609434
at least that's somewhat good. some schools around me are fucking hell holes.
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>>5609436
maybe its inconsistent? like maybe some syllables drop in pitch which make the whole thing sound deeper? that would be something you can just train
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>>5609439
alright :)
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>Thought I was working with some pretty chill people
>legitimately quit my second job because I saw it was impacting the job I liked
>new manager comes in a couple days ago
>he's a "productivity focused" manager which means all he cares about is money.
>he's allowed to fire me on his first day with no interaction with me
>work my fucking ass off on my last day and he gives me 50% of my hours back
>now only have 10 fucking hours a week
Well he said "if you continue to improve we might see about getting you some of your hours back." this decision was based entirely on one managers interaction with me for ONE DAY. And then I had the store owner up my ass all day about every tiny mistake I made all day, to the point where I had to go outside to cry twice.

it's amazing how quickly someone can go from seeming chill to being a complete fucking asshole.
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>>5609426
Hey, I think I'm ugly. And rather creepy. I was just trying on that jacket to see if it still did fit me, because I didn't really get to wear it much after buying it. That was right before the shit hit the fan, and in the past century now that I think of it.
As for wearing something my age, no thanks. I don't want to look like the wizened widow I am. I'll have all the time to wear black apron dresses when I'm 70.
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>>5609441
oh, shit did i r8 you? grats senpai you pass.
>ywn ktf
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>>5609443
Wait, what? What's your contract say about that shit?
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>>5609443
You probably made customers uncomfortable because you were an obvious trans dude.

He was focused on running a business, not making you feel secure about your transition hon
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>>5609440
It's too high I think but maybe I just need to use it more and practice talking louder too.
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>>5609435
I'm back to training it at the moment, I'm not happy with where I'm at for now. Consistency is the biggest problem.

>>5609436
You're probably pushing your pitch too high. Focus on the reasonance instead of pitch for now. Also, instead of focusing on going higher, focus on keeping from dropping too low.
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>>5609447
>contract
this is america my friend.

also it's a resteraunt.

>>5609448
>baiting this hard
none of my managers even know I'm trans
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>>5609457
except every one does know, they really do and you know it
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>>5609439
>i wake up to my mom hugboxxing me

Oh! You poor thing! My mom only reminds me every other day that she had two BOYS and calls me "a grown ass man" every week. But it must be so hard for you :'(((
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>>5609459
I can smell the T rage
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>>5609457
nigger i've heard your voice, you scream tranny when you open your mouth
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>>5609456
How do I practice that?
I just read stuff out loud with head voice or whatever.
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>>5609445
Hey, I dont give a shit what you think about yourself.
I think youre lovely.
Dress how you want, its your life
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>>5609457
>no one knows im trans
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>>5609459
>>5609465
The samefag is real
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>>5609465
There are 2 cis girls at my work that have deeper voices than me.
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>>5609456
I have a physical throat problem that makes it impossible to stop airflow while speaking. talked to a doc a year ago, and he said it was unfixable and I should be happy with what I have currently.
Id very much like to have a normal voice tho. At least its not a man voice. just awkward
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>>5609457
>this is america my friend.
I am so sorry for you. Also for the fact you're stuck working in a restaurant.

I'd look for a better 2nd job if I were you, because 10h/week is bullshit.
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>>5609456
What app is that
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>>5609469
Now what?
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>>5609473
yeah, I'm stuck only working on the weekends.

now might be a good time to start nursing school and see if financial aid will help paid for my housing.
>>
This might be a stupid question, but is high cholesterol an issue for starting hrt?
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>>5609478
Yeah, it is, especially if you're overweight. Estrogens significantly increase the risk of developping cardio-vascular diseases. So, make sure to get that under control. HRT is no good if it kills you.
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>>5609472
>at least its not a man voice. just awkward
iktf. At my absolute worst I sound like a teenage boy. What does your throat problem do to your voice exactly?

>>5609466
Do that, use an app to look at your pitch, and listen to recordings of yourself. You might want to look into using teamspeak or something given you play so much vidya.

>>5609474
Voice Pitch Analyzer for android
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Well I'll can see this place is dead today
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>>5609490
but I have 47 chromosomes ;_:


(define (melly chromosomes)
(cond ((< chromosomes 46)
(life_is suffering))
(else (be_normal_cis_male)))))
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>>5609489
>iktf. At my absolute worst I sound like a teenage boy. What does your throat problem do to your voice exactly?

lets see if I remember this correctly: since the airflow isnt obstructed, producing sounds needs a lot more strength/pressure, which makes resonance and especially alternating pitch/intonation a lot harder, so I tend to sound monotonous and quiet (yet very soft). Id assume that to speak with a voice others would consider conversation-loud, I probably need as much energy as a normal person thats talking VERY loudly (but not yet shouting).
I can keep that up for about 20-30 minutes bevore my voice sounds like I am sick, but it isnt very fun.
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>>5609489
Should I keep the pitch around 250Hz?
It honestly sounds too high to me but I heard 250Hz was good.

Would love to be able to use voice chat in video games tbhon.
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>tfw gf sends me pic related
>tfw can't stop crying out of happyness
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>>5609503
K
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>>5609503
HEY GUYS LOOK AT ME: the post
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>>5609503
I cried reading it too. Fucking memories. And by that, I don't mean memories of fucking. Well, not only. And definitely not memories of Fucking, Austria, because I'm pretty sure I've never been there.
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>>5609503
good for you i suppose?
i'm glad you're happy
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>>5609515
My toast could use some of that jelly
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>>5609461
that sucks, anon. i'm sorry. i just feel like i lost my mind every time that topic comes up desu. i didn't have that happen so i can only imagine what it's like but sorry.
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hey
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>tfw you have a qt boy voice that makes the girls swoon

I gotta try it with the boys sometime ;~;
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who /wantdie/ here?
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>>5609499
That really sucks, but at least you've managed to get your voice to a passable place. Did training help your endurance at all?

>>5609500
250Hz is probably too high, try to bring it down to around the 200Hz to 220Hz range.
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>>5609531
u kno it
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>>5609532
>Did training help your endurance at all?

barely, it mainly raised my pitch. if I start from my normal fem voice and then count while raising the pitch I can reach 350 Hz without breaking o0 super weird
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>>5609526
What the hell if that gif from? Some Japanese godzilla film?
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>>5609531
I want dye. But Fiebing's is bloody expensive for what it is.
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>>5609531
Me

>>5609532
I'll try that then.
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>>5609456
That app is nice, though as I was reading it I was thrown off a bit by how my voice sounded more practiced than it has in past weeks. Was weird. I just hope that doesn't go away
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>>5609503
This is making me feel all romantic
Thanks for sharing, Lily
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>>5609490
It is very dead, normally this thread is page 1.

>>5609532
Hi Elanna
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>>5609553
How am I supposed to get a qt trans gf if you do that? Live anon. Live!
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>>5609548
Pretty sure it's pacific rim
>>
So yeah... I posted this earlier but...
Basically the job is pushing me off my start date once again. All the way back to March 8th. At this point I'm nearly broke (I get 836 in disability payment at the start of the month) and I'm officially tired of waiting for a job that looks like it just won't happen.

Now, I'm a fair bit upset about this desu. I kind of put my hopes into this mess and I'm ready to just call it quits while waiting.

Now, I called a few trucking companies. A few of them want me to come on. I'm ditching Maryland as soon as I can.

Momma's gonna go and be a freaking trucker.

I'm bummed, yeah, and I could use some cheering up, but just knowing that I'm not stuck seems to be enough of a consolation.

Just wanted to share that with you all.
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>>5609548
nope
its from pacific rim and its an australian jaegar (mecha) fighting a kaiju (monster) because all the countries in the world have jaegars to defend themselves from the kaiju
the australian jaegar is central to the plot because its the most advanced jaegar in the world apparently.
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>power went out
Gr8. Just fucking gr8. Can i just get 10 seconds where something doesnt go wrong in my life.
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lets pretend to have a "Career" edition like lesgen seems to have right now while i was a-scrollin'. MUST BE NICE FOR THEM.
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>>5609531

25/8/366
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>>5609567
>>5609574
Cheers. Not seen that movie.
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>>5609571
Good luck in your new job!
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i am happy things went well for you angie. i hope it wasn't too stressful.
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>>5609583
inpossible
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new thread
>>5609592
>>5609592
>>5609592
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>>5609546
Whoa, that's really high. Are you able to sing at that pitch? o.o

>>5609553
Godspeed lainanon

>>5609560
Reading passages and conversations are different, I find that I sound better using apps like that. It takes practice to be able to converse in the same way.

>>5609562
Hey moap, how's it going?
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