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this thread sucks

>>34153900
>that eokek setup

>>34153900
>bunch of overweight old guys with 2011-era builds
somehow I'm not surprised this is the BCM guys

what red dot should I buy?

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Can someone tell me where can I buy a rail like pic related?

I kinda love the way that the M4s from the IDF look so I wish to make a clone of some sorts.

What other stuff would I need to make a IDF M4?

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>>34153607
m600u

>>34153556
14.5

>look at AR build
>price at MSRP is $1311 before sights
>almost $500 of that is an SSA and a Mk14 rail
Should I even bother with either? I like the SSA-E on my AR-10 but I'm not sure i want a 2-stage on a workhorse rifle

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KISS carbine master race reporting in

>>34154221
the G2S has the same feel as a SSA and goes for $110ish when on sale
the rail is expensive but if that's what you want go for it

>>34154232
I bought one of the DSG basic uppers for $189 and I like it
babby's first FSB upper

>>34154242
upper is PSA

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Outfitting my AR after pic related but with an MK8, SL-S, and M600U. Thoughts? I'd go with the a T2 but an MRO works with my astigmatism

anyone liking the moe sl hand guards?

It's autistic as hell, but I wish someone made a free float M-LOK rail with an FSB cut for mid-length gas systems.

>>34154342
get one that stops at the fsb

Almost finished with my build. Need advice for iron sights, charging handle, and BCG. Any recommendations?

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Saturday night steak was a success gentlemen. Didn't take a picture because I was hanging out with my normie friends, but I assure you it was delicious.

>>34154781
BCG: if you want milspec get phosphate otherwise nitride. if you want to spend a bunch of money there's plenty of other options (different coatings, lightweight, adjustable gas)
CH: BCM gunfighter at $35 works. raptors and geissele are about $65-75 on sale. there are also knockoff raptors for $25-35
iron sight: magpul pro $125 for the pair on sale, kac rear from ebay $65, magpul mbus $65 for pair on sale, carry handle sight $50-60. there's a lot of options

>>34154781
http://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-5-56-premium-full-auto-bolt-carrier-group-psa-ar15-m16-7075-t6-forged-mil-spec-charging-handle.html

>>34153971
My MRO and ADM mount, $300

>>34154917
There's a million coatings for BCGs. Any standout coatings I should look for? I'm going to be getting a suppressor for my rifle in a year or so, if it matters. I'm not a fan of carry handles, so I guess I'll go with whatever BUIS are cheap? The charging handle seems to be a matter of comfort, so I'll just get something ambidextrous and easy to use.

>>34154957
nickle boron

>>34154957
>i need a device to aim my gun when optics go down
>i know I'll get some cheap junk that could fail at any time
>can't see any issue with this
Mbus Pro or KAC. Polymer magpul MOE buis is acceptable if you don't mind them being fuckhueg

>>34154963
I was leaning toward the Troy Dioptic sights. Decent or trash?

>>34154972
Waste of money. KAC and Magpul MBUS Pro are better and smaller. The only reason to buy Troy is if it's 10 years ago and they're the only metal folding buis in the game.

>>34154972
LWRC makes a great set of sights too

Im building a Shrek inspired AR would this lower be good for a Shrek build? http://www.eparmory.com/EP80-Receiver-Zombie-Green-p/ep80zombie.htm

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Apologize

>>34155049
it needs to be ugly so sure
make sure you have a cream coloured handguard

>>34154972
In a world of quad rails and 90 degree light mounts, Troys make sense. Having such a massive chunk of metal hanging over the side of the picatinny didn't matter. But now we have ultra slim handguards and 45 degree light mounts to tuck that shit in close, and a huge buis like Troy will get in the way and limit how you can configure your gun.

>>34155081
no

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Camping with ARs best camping

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Hey I'm selling these rail covers they're new never been installed
$10 shipped

>>34155558
>dickmod
no thanks

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>>34155558
cant you just return them

>>34154945
Good price

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>>34155867
Goddamn, block 1s just look so good.

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>>34155938
all blocks are beautiful

>>34155959
Agreed, but there's just something about block 1s lately that make me muh dick real hard.

So if didn't have that scope but you had to buy another LPVO, would you stick with the NF?

>>34155982
if i wanted that much magnification, yes bc 10x in a 17 ounce package is gr8. if i was doing a spare no expense ultra gucci build id prob get a swarovski z6, if i was doing a general purpose mid range gucci id go accupoint

>>34156010
Man I wish NF would make a 1-8x. That what I really want and from what I can tell the options are either cheap shit, medium shit that's not good, or extremely expensive shit that I won't cough up enough money for.

>>34156105
just get the accupower 1-8x and be done with it

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>>34156113

26 ounces goyim.

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>>34156173
>>34156113
Yeah, that doesn't bother so much as that I've heard it doesn't do very well at all in certain lighting conditions.

>>34155653
I've had them for too long.

>>34156189

Might be worth waiting for an update then.

>>34156189
get a vcog

>>34155938
>block 1
>lean barrel or handguard against a barrier
>POI shift, miss your target

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Goddamn i really want a Diemaco m4 again

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>>34153900
Surefire used to make m4 quad rail?

>>34156223
>Update
It just came out, and trijicon went with the illumination from the 1-4 accupoint.

And NF isn't really known for bright illumination on the reticles either.

>>34156300
thanks for the blog post

>>34156332
Gotchu m8

>>34156326
They're cheap too

>>34156331
>And NF isn't really known for bright illumination on the reticles either.
can confirm, its really only useful in a low light environment

>>34156343
Cheap as in shitty?

I don't think they make them anymore?

>>34156380
Dunno how good they are or not, I've just seen a few for under 100

>>34156359
NF looks cool on the outside, but why do they all have special snowflake reticles?

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>>34156428
what reticles are you looking at? i have the mil-r, fairly straight forward

>>34156458
I guess not enough christmas tree.

>>34156428
You don't really know much about nice glass do you?

>>34155558
>>34156195
post the PRO on your rifle

Are ACOGs considered a meme now?

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>>34156492
Bless

>>34156509
Define meme anon

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>>34156509
yes they were BTFO by barska months ago

>>34156509
no they're nice

>>34156516
ayy
do you have any pictures of your CAR build?

>>34156509
Elcan spectre 1.5x-6x variable is the way to go in the modern world.

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>>34156516
>>34156548
I can go pickup my barrel today at 1pm

>>34156580
>elcan
>modern

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>>34156580
*wiggle wiggle*

>>34154009
>likes jew weapons

>>34156609
>>>/pol/

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>>34156602
daily reminder you're only 1/3 white

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>>34156537
get that disgusting gun bunny >>>/out/

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>>34156625
at least i'm not a nigger like you(pic)

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>>34156625

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>>34156626
just when i thought you werent going to join the ranks of "just another shit-tier newtrip"

many such cases

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>>34156626
Hey man, shes #ourgirl
just calm down with those negative vibes

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Should I buy a DPMS AR for $384 new?

https://www.deguns.net/DPMS-Oracle-5-56-AR15-60531-dpms-oracle-for-sale-p/60531.htm

I already have s nice daniel defense ar, but I wouldn't mind getting a cheap one while they're cheap.
Anyone with good/bad experiences with this rifle?

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>>34156641
>>34156647
shes a degenerate semen demon.

>>34156653
Ytho

>>34156653
I dont understand your logic, but go with god my son

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>>34156655
your point?

>>34156655
see, you two have something in common

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>>34156634
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>>34156683
What is this gr8 new meme

>>34156666
>>34156668
https://www.instagram.com/scuzi23/?hl=en
>best glock wielding female.

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>>34156683
more than your god

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>at least im not black

>>34156698
The only thing worse than Ian is his fan base

>>34156688
its a website i showed them yesterday and now i fear ive created a monster.

http://kairos.com/diversity-recognition

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>>34156697
>Doesnt even post a pic

>>34153900
Tfw, went to legs to peruse their revolver selection yesterday, it sucked but while there managed to score a thousand rounds of American eagle for cheap and was gonna go chooting today but it's pissing rain

>>34156698
i told you yesterday you dumb banananigger that it doesnt work well with facial hair leave ian alone reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>34156702
>having to mess with the ratio
come on m8

>>34156712
i linked her instragram which is open and has over 1k pictures of her, WAT ELS CUNS I DOO FA YOO TDAY MASSUH?

>>34156697
>literal nasty girl
>already had kiddos
>cog fantasies are raising another man's children

>>34156718
It doesn't do 2d this program is fuckin shit

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>>34156726
truth hurts doesnt it tyrone

>>34156729
>tori is the town slut
>degenerate behavior
>party girl with daddy money
>tramp stamps
>is into BBC

kek

>>34156730
Futa tigers don't have human ethnicities

>>34156659
Maybe I want a cheap AR to convert full auto and have some fun with someday when I retire to Backwoods, USA.
Or maybe I just want a cheap AR to abuse and shoot steel cased/bi-metal through and not feel guilty.

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>>34156733
not really

>>34156733
post the original image plox

>>34156653
Have fun with your FTE/FTF

>>34156485
Reticle choice also matters retard NF shill.
Inb4 "glass means scope" to cover your ass

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>>34156744
Delet that ;-;

I didn't even think to try that actually tho I was trying to get a pair of reaction images I had on my phone. Also it doesn't work on irl cats

>>34156653
I guess I could see doing so for just hosing steel case with a bump stock or binary.

Ive talked to a couple RR owners who buy the cheapest uppers they can find for just dumping mags and throw them away after a few thousand rounds at cyclic.

>>34156749
is this shit supposed to be impressive?
we all know youre a little bitch with a lisp.

kys permavirgin.

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>>34156765
more impressive than you

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>>34156749
>post yfw ywn break 50% white

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What is the heaviest variable optic /arg/ would dare to put on a rifle?

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>>34156666
I'm more of a Natasha Nova kind of guy. I like to have slightly skanky hot girls that you fuck mean and call them a skank while you cum in their ass

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Could be worse

Exclusive rare FA

>>34156778
Vortex Razor

>>34156778
That gif is legendary.
19 oz, but 16-17 or lower is better.

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>>34156786
My dude you look like a low budget Leon Kennedy

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>>34156786
>not having a whole folder full of rare prarieniggerAnon pictures

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>>34156782
sure

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>>34156778
what barrel length tho

>>34156786
>yfw FA stands for federico alejandro

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>>34156811
she's gonna shoot her dick of

>>34156762
That's my idea. Thank you.
>>34156746

>>34156811
shes kinda butterface tho

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>>34156817
>what barrel length tho
This is purely a thought experiment so I guess assume a 16"

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>>34156827

>>34156829
probably wouldnt want to go any heavier than 25 ounces including mount

>>34156799
Kek I have dale cooper hair right now, that pic is pretty dated.

>>34156873
is this you >>34156805

>>34153946
>these guys
>overweight for being 40+ years old
nah, these guys are still in okay shape
>>34154232
>no light.
missing a fundamental piece of fighting rifle there senpai.

>>34156829
thats a cool looking gun

>>34156873
>white people
I dunno how you can deal with anything longer than a #2 m8, shit bothers me so quick

>>34156879
From a few years ago ye

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>>34153900
https://youtu.be/lu_QxQF-GNA

>>34156903
I had long as fuck hippie hair in high school

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>>34156898
Thanks dude
>>34156879
No its me

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>>34156916
buzz4lyfe gotta be high speed low drag

>>34156907
>>34156923
put the two of you together and you almost make one adult male :^

>>34156655
so? she still wouldn't fuck you.

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>>34156929
>implying

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>>34156942
>not being a living meme
disgusting normie tier my dude

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>>34156957
If anything I felt really fat in this image because im wearing a combat shirt over a normal cotton shirt with a plate carrier ontop of that.
>>34156967
This is exactly why I'm stockpiling keymod rails

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>>34156967
>makes fun of skeletons
>is a skeleton

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>>34156983
>I felt really fat
oh, so you're anorexic

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>>34157003
Atleast I dont have a lisp

>>34157009
at least i weigh more than a 5yo

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>>34157009
And you are significantly better off financially.

>>34157014
Drive over here and fight me

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>>34156983
>This is exactly why I'm stockpiling keymod rails
smart. can sell them on ebay in 20 years as rare retro AR parts

>>34156987
>what are you, TRYING to be purposely wry?
>on 4chan??

>>34157028
no thanks, i'm not a violent nigger like you

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>>34157023
>just got another raise at work
mfw
>>34157032
> can sell them on ebay in 20 years as rare retro AR parts
I will keep them for baiting /arg/ for the ages

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>>34157032
i tried to make it work for the app but it didn't

>>34157060
muhfugen bix nood dlet this

>>34153900
How do I quit being an indecisive faggot that can't decide on what parts to get?

>>34157089
flip a coin

>>34157060
>wearing skinny jeans while larping operator

wdhmbt?

>>34157089
>build a 16" middy in 1:8 twist, mlok rail, SSA or MBT trigger, sopmod or CTR stock with the LPVO in your price range
>have solid do everything rifle

>>34157121
ssae*

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>>34157116
>skinny
>jeans
some of the best hiking pants

>>34157143
Tight pants tight... trails?

>>34157143
get out with that yuro trash

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>>34157032
What hardshell?

>>34157089
Start tripping.

Whats the best 20" barrel I can get? FN?

>>34157143
>no pockets
>4 belt loops
is this a joke

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>>34157172
rei brand, cant remember what its called

>>34157116
>straight leg jeans
>are skinny jeans

pick one

>>34157125
Too light.

>>34157191
nice meme

>>34157143
Those aren't prana zions

>>34157143
Those aren't fjallraven kebs

>>34157229
i dont like the incorporated belt

>>34157239
still havent tested mine innawoods

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>>34157245
>still havent tested mine innawoods
Same t b h. My weekends have been eaten up by machinegun shoots and celebrating.

Might try to get out with them next weekend

>>34157188
this is the thread that will argue with GT about gear and guns they have their heads completely up each others asses

>>34157271
they fit real nice tho, i expected them to be baggier but they have a nice cut. shame they dont make more of their pants in long sizes

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Hey guys my lower has a 3rd hole pin like pic related, but I see that most ARs only have 2.


Why?

>>34157295
nice department gun

>>34157295
Means you win

>>34157188
Everythings a skinny jean when you're a lardass.

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>>34157285
>they fit real nice tho, i expected them to be baggier but they have a nice cut.
Yeah this is my favorite part, they also dont make noise like most synthetics
>shame they dont make more of their pants in long sizes
Real fucking lanklet problems, I know the feel
>>34157295
Weight savings, dont worry

>>34157308
I'm not a police officer and it's on a lower my brother gave to me, what does it do?

Doesn't seem to effect the functionality of the gun at all and I only noticed it now

>>34157313
decided on an A4 for that tube then eh

>>34157326
>telling lies on the internet and thinking arg general will fall for them
nah m8 you weren't 'just given' a full auto lower

>>34157366
To be fair, summer has started

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Is there a bigger embarassment to the industry than BCM and tango down?

Pomegranate State Armory excluded

>>34157385
Paul Bufferino is making mlok handguards tho

>>34157391
>eating crow
Long term, their foolishness will probably be forgotten. Tango down is a hard kek atm though

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>>34157385
Magpul
>>34157347
Had half the shit laying around anyway

>supposed to have a message at 12
>still no message
I just want my fuckin Diemaco

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>>34157385

>>34157439
Magpul makes some okay stuff though. Trigger guards, K2 grip, mlok Surefire tape switch retainer thing, MBUS Pros

And while its not flashy, it is good for its price and they dont act like completely fucktard arrogant elitists like BCM Tango et al. who all refused to ever make anything in mlok

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God damn I love this plane.

Who makes good suppressor covers?

>>34157385
embarrassing

>>34157474
>be magpul
>make pants
>they fall apart
>>34157479
Fly it into your head

>>34157481
Rifles Only HAD

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>>34157486
That would damage my plane though

I have hit myself with a small foam one. Semi intentional, very entertaining

>>34157486
>doesn't post pics of inside pockets
a2 btfo

>>34157481
https://www.riflesonly.com/suppressor-covers

>>34157486
>be magpul
>make pants
Okay you got me there, I had no idea this was a thing. Seems like they hush hushed it and moved on instead of blaming everyone but themselves like Tango down

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>>34157486
>these pants are shit they just fell apart

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Why are we bullying a2 over faulty product that isn't keymod?

Wgws is the actual commie anyways

>>34157502
>asking to see another dude's pocket pool
wdhmbt

>>34157098
But what if there are more than two choices?

>>34157172
How will that help with me being a faggot that can't decide what to do?

>>34157507
Their old hoodies at least are damn nice

>>34157528
It's a meme ya dip

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>>34157502
I did that already and all people did was bully my shitty patch job

>a glock mag is capable of destroying magpul's pants
Who are these pants even designed for?
>>34157513
>>34157507
Im waiting for my Magpul(tm) operators only(r) wallet to burst into flames right now

>>34157539
buy all of them and sell the ones you dont like on the ee

Now that Geissele got BTFO by lizerd acquiring one of their rails, what should all of us don't-bully-me-bro hive minders migrate to? It has to quality so any shit-talk is insubstantial, and high enough retail so Lizerd is excluded.

>>34157547
i still need to pick up one of their phone cases all the ones ive tried have been a let down

>>34157539
Post your options and we will decide

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>>34157559
I'll do whatever is necessary to btfo args favorite rails

>>34157559
KDG, DD MFR XS, URX4, NSR

>>34157560
They also suck, the friction fit wears out and the cases slip off eventually.
>>34157559
BCM MMR if you're a cuck
BCM KMR is you're a true free man

>>34157560
It's nothing special. Life proof or otter box is best

>>34157566
that made me kek you audacious faggot

>>34157574
F

>>34157577
i have no use for a case that bulky or bombproof

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>>34157587
Mfw take out a loan to buy 35k worth of rails just to eternally btfo arg

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>>34157606
Sounds like Giddy tier plan

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>>34157559
Monolithic baby

>>34157591
oh idk then. i like the water resistant and drop proof capabilities.

>>34157614
whatd you pay for that OTD

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>>34157609
Yeah but then I repay the loan instead of making it worse

Plus I'd have 35k of rails, those are assets yo

>>34157615
sounds like solutions for working class problems

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>>34157624
>he doesn't camo otter box for innawoods

>>>/b/734747934

>>34157649
go ahead and stay in /b/

>>34157559
Utg

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>>34157618
For the base rifle, I want to say $2200, maybe a few hundred more. Election panic time too.

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>>34157640
>tfw 2intelligent to drop my phone

>>34157669
fug. a lot cheaper than an sr25 tho

>>34157687
For reals.

Thought about an SR25, but for a problem riddled, ain't won a contract in how long rifle, they want too much. LMT uses the same lower, and I dig on monolithic top rails.

It was going to be an LMT or a dillo dust rifle.

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>tfw work with a trap
>but its a mtf

>>34157727
Tfw fluffy suffers from split personality disorder

Is there an archive of the trip pics from that (or any) meetup?

>>34157727
ftm is hard to spot and kinda rare

>>34157743
I have a few but you're not getting them

>>34157727
The best kind

>>34157751
Thank you.

>>34157748
also ftm usually want to date girls

>>34154945
WHAT condition is the MRO in

>>34157759
kys

>>34157751
kys

>>34154957
IVe heard great things about DLC coating

>>34157796
GC was the first one to get high speed coated BCG

>>34157807
wrong and he doesn't even own one

not now not never

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>>34157807
I'm on the leading edge of the AR world man

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>>34157807
Wrong
He has the one that isn't gucci. Pic related is /the/ high speed bcg

>>34157807
>not even coated

Who is the poorest trip?
are there any rich trips besides for MSD and Alex?

>>34157978
Please tell me that is not the silver one.

>>34158011
Fluffy, GC, and giddy
>msd
>rich

>>34158011
I'd like to think I'm rich, then I look at the prices of real estate in the city and feel like Giddy.

>>34158011
uhhhh my debt rivals Giddy but my score is low 8s and it's a truck loan and a personal loan

I also pull serious income, don't feel up to my eyeballs (had been, but pay it in huge chunks) and got this way paying Mom and sibling bills

I'm anon posting right now because I troll trip elsewhere on /k/ and mostly shit up arg or use it for srs parts advice
>generally failing to get the advice I need, damn it

oh actually, what's with the hatred on Timney triggers? I've used SSA and liked it, prolly will again, but Timney on other shit has felt good

>>34158011
>MSD
>alex
>rich

Lolno.

>>34158011
>msd
>rich
he's king of the poorfags

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My first AR, what should I get for it?

Should I buy those spare part kits? Rails? Mags? Optics?

>>34156778

My XTR II 1-5 is 21 ounces. So I guess that currently.

>>34158059
MBT or bust

>>34158075
Mags and ammo

>>34158075
out of principal you should put some B&T parts on it

>>34158011
economic class is a mental state, you are as rich as you allow yourself to be.

is the billionaire sitting in an office 80hrs a week rich?
is the homesteader with handmade tools and fresh air poor?
life isn't as simple as zeros in a bank account, it takes more than money to be rich.

that being said, a2 is the poorest, poor bastard can't ever afford food

>>34158026
Mystic black my man

>>34158120
you are a broken man

>>34158120
lrn2dialecticalmaterialism

>>34158120
>being 26k in debt with a 17k salary isn't poor guys
You ever notice it's always broke mothafuckas sayin money don't matter?

>>34158120
Holy shit...

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>>34158120
>is the billionaire sitting in an office 80hrs a week rich?
Yeah.

>is the homesteader with handmade tools and fresh air poor?
Absolutely

>life isn't as simple as zeros in a bank account, it takes more than money to be rich.

Go buy a bagel with freedom and feelings then.

how can i be poor with all these (you)s?

<<34158165
>merely pretending

Uh oh, someone's about to get a (you) timeout.

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>>34157385
>Is there a bigger embarassment to the industry than BCM

Fuck your ass I am very happy with my BCM barrel.

>>34158176
BCM fucking sucks and you should be ashamed of your purchase

>>34156380
They're not bad, I had one on a mid length gun for a while. It went with the gun when I sold it. They free float the barrel while being drop in, which is pretty cool.
>>34154945
Drop a burner.

>>34158207
I should be ashamed in that I bought a government profile barrel, and that's the only negative about it unless you can find me something irrefutable

>But citing sources is "spoon-feeding" in today's world.

>>34158226
Dude

Why can't you just accept that BCM is shit

>>34158207
waaaaaait what IS with the anti BCM trope on /arg/ after all?

>inb4 "you're new here, sure is summer"

I'm just confused by it and never felt like asking. not a fanboi, but their shit's worked great for me and a bunch of friends

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>>34156625

>>34158226
Top lel

Diemaco+KAC #1

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>>34158232
>Why can't you just accept that BCM is shit

Because no one is able to tell me conclusively that one day my barrel and charging handle will suddenly fail me catastrophically

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>>34158226
>>34158232
What is wrong with govt profile barrels? What is a good profile for a rifle that will be seeing high rates of fire?

I'm trying to get an 11.5" for mag dumps etc. What is a good barrel for that? PSA doesn't make CHF 11.5".

>>34158252
>beta cuck male rage

>>34158252
That barrel profile...

>>34158237
>>34158252
>>34158271
>all this impotent rage

Lol typical BCMfags

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>>34156749
>were more diverse then we think
Kek not me motherfucker

>>34158252
It's just keymod that is Garbo. Bcm otherwise is fine

http://soldiersystems.net/2017/05/05/details-on-the-ussocom-sponsored-keymod-vs-m-lok-test-conducted-at-nswc-crane/

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>>34158279
>>34158292
>No proofs

I suppose you'll give me shit for having major components made by PSA, CMMG, Anderson, Geissele and Adams Arms also.

>>34158288
>That barrel profile...
>>34158226

>>34158326
>shit taste in vidya too

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>>34153900
I SHOULD BE AT THE RANGE TODAY!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEE!1!!1!

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>>34158335
>Warhammer
>Vidya

Bruh I got some news for you.

>>34158326
>is a branded beta cuck male
>p-p-proofs!!!
pottery

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>>34158348
Bruhhhh

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>>34158358
Bruuuhhhhh

>>34158372
wtf I hate ARs now

>>34154009
JG&G Should have some.

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>>34158358
Ayyyyyyy try harder
>Tabletop game first edition released in 1987

I can't believe I have to go full nerd in /arg/

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>>34158386
Fuck it, I'll post a grimdark space AR just for the hell of it

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i'm back from my cry, what did i miss?

>>34158407
BCM apologists are still defending their honor.

War Hammer queers are sperging

>>34158271
>I'm trying to get an 11.5" for mag dumps etc. What is a good barrel for that? PSA doesn't make CHF 11.5".
http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/gm-m11s-11-5-inch-finned-barrel-in-5-56mm-with-ext/

I GOT U SENPAI
>>34158420
>War Hammer queers
Stop being redundant

>>34154232
>no forward pistol grip
Simple but to simple. Noice tho

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Wow the emr just feels so much nicer in the hand

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>>34158456
it would help if you didnt have baby hands.

>>34158497
Like Trump lol

>>34158497
Yeah it's certainly not the shape of the rail