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What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished? You know the drill.
Thank you, just found http://teleport.to/Japan/ this shit and at least it worked so far, also doesnt have any additional advertisement so I guess I'll bear with this until I find some better way.
Do you guys think Studio Ryokucha will go bankrupt soon? Seems like はにかみ clover become a huge failure, just as their all games since 2010.
People are saying its not even worth of buying for half price, and personally I agree with them. Just downloading the cg pack is more than enough, and hell even that is not so good. Its really sad to see that how their games getting worse than the previous one at every time.
Did they fired the Koiiro's writer or something?
I don't know where else on /jp/ to ask and I don't want to make a new thread for it, but is the ftp site working for everyone else? It prompts me to input the username/password and after I click log on it just won't load. So I'm just wondering if it moved domain again?
>find some obscure VN by mining vndb, there aren't even any tags for it (https://vndb.org/v16251 if you're curious)
>story is pretty much exactly what I was looking for
>art looks decent
>game is surprisingly well made for a small dlsite game
>instantly get to like the girl
>spend an hour or two reading, everything goes better than expected
>look up the game's dlsite page to see if the developer has any other gems I might want
I really hope it's just a bad ending or side route, and not the main theme for the game.
Aww come on, fake imoutos can be pretty cute too.
Someone knows if already have a link to download this VN?
Yeah. That's why I haven't played it yet. I like pure girls as much as the next guy, but I have a hard time suspending my belief when all the adult heroines are virgins. I thought one of the appeals of older women was that they had more experience and wouldn't whine and bitch when you fuck them.
Well, to be fair there's a lot of women in Japan in their mid-late 20's who haven't had sex before. But I guess they're more the plain/unattractive type rather than pretty ladies.
I'd have preferred some of the heroines have sexual experience too (except for Asuka and Tomoe), but it doesn't kill the game for me.
Boring teenagers with no redeeming qualities having the most popular and cutest girl at school fall head over heels for them is also ridiculous.
You don't come to eroge for realism.
働く大人の恋愛事情 is compatible with a 360 controller
I hope they keep this trend, last one I saw that had that was monobeno
Welp, guess it's time to go to prison
But that fucking title man. Maybe make her a sub heroine or something but holy FUCK my head hurts at the sheer... insanity of making the main heroine of a working-adult game a school girl, what the fuck where they thinking? Like she's seriously standing right in front as if FUCK I don't even know, it's too baffling to even imagine, it's sheer insanity, it's decadence of the highest order. A decline in wits among the producers, or something, maybe management fiddled with it, that's my only hope and dream, that the scenarists found it repulsive but evil corporate forced them into it. That the scenarists fought tooth and nail to make a game about working adults, and only managed to win if they sold their soul to the devil and made the main heroine a school girl. They did this for us! That sacrifice carries me on today, God help them, that's all I can hold on to.
Almost everything, really. First of all the writing is horrible, its definitely worse than some low priced nukige's writing. Hell writer didnt even bother with writing MC's inner thoughts at most of time so you dont even know how he feels about the heroines. Story is all over the place, it suddenly jump here and there. + Writer couldnt even decide the heroines' personalities. For example at some scene Suou says that its pretty normal to drink sperm from humans as a succubus, so she doesnt feel like its something obscene and would already taste it if she had any familiar boys in the school > 5 mintues later she says that she always wanted to love just one man in her life > in another scene she says that she just sees mc as a meal and doesnt care as long as she can suck her sperm, even if he dates with another girl > later she says she'll protect mc even if it costs to her life and want to spend her entire life with him etc etc. This shit repeats itself like 4-5 times in the story. Seriously is she a bitch or a pure character, decide that already. We all know that they didnt have balls to make her not virgin, but this shit is more annoying than that.
If this is not enough, there are 17-18 hcg per heroine, while only 2 non-h and even those come and go really really fast. For example this scene, it seems cute right? They used this at their OP & advertisement etc. But it takes just "2 second". Mc says >dozo, then Heroine says >no no you first and its over.
I can count a couple more if you want. In short as the jps says, this game is not worth of buying even for the half price.
I didnt try Hataraku yet but it can't be worse than this. Also seems like they didn't include all the succubus & being full of h-scenes things in the trial so people are mad for that too, saying they got deceived etc. They are pretty right though, since everyone was expecting some comfy moege, not a nukige from beginning to end.
There's definitely some tonal whiplash yeah.
It opens up like a nukige, and then just as your penis engine has finally revved up, you're suddenly in a standard school council common route without another scene for hours.
That's how I felt with pic related. Opens up with naked girls dueling and a handjob, but then turns into a standard school life-type SOL with no sex for a long time. Blueballed me hard.
Also, was feature to pic related, I can't believe this was okay'd and put into a commercial work
The problem is; trial doesn't start like that. Its the same thing until the opening part (you save the cat and shit), then suddenly it jumps into character select, you see one short scene at there depends on the character you select, then a random h-scene with sumire for showing the quality of it > trial ends.
I'm pretty sure that their plan was deceiving the buyers, because they cutted the all nukige-ish or succubus talks on purpose which was 99% of the game, they showed the remaining 1% at the trial.
Finished Miyu's route in 働くオトナの恋愛事情. Overall a lot of fun, quick and straightforward. There was one point where I was afraid it would get slow and tedious, but it steered clear of that. Chapters were short and succinct, but still felt like they were moving the story along.
The best part of the game was easily the characters, especially the side characters. The manager, random grandmother, and even the tsundere father-in-law were all fun.
My only complaints would have to be about the protagonist. He wasn't bad himself, it's just that every other character was a lot more interesting than he was. It's not like he became a wall-flower every scene, but he just didn't shine through as much as the others. The other problem I have is more with the whole theme of changing yourself. Personally I would've preferred to see the protagonist change little by little throughout the story. The way it was set up just felt like he flipped a switch and magically became confident, then women started tripping over his dick. I don't hate the idea of him changing and having casual sex, I actually liked that change of pace, I just would've liked to see more focus on his development. The ending "drama" of Miyu's route was also pretty stupid, but they didn't blow it out of proportion so it didn't bother me too much.
Also 55 H-scenes in total, doesn't hurt either.
This looks really fucking weird. Is this intentional?
after playing hataraku otona I've realized that I won't get all my designations until I'm at least 25 Until then, I'll be living a sexless life.
this game is an accurate depiction of my roadmap right? I'll still have enough time to become a professional bar slut fucker? there's still hope for me, r-right?
No biggie, it only takes 1 day.
>"read" untranslated VNs on the regular basis
>suffer through machine translations
>don't simply take that extra step and start using their machine translation sessions to learn Japanese
I don't get this crowd.
Machine translations fucking suck. I remember when I first started learning Japanese. I got through Tae Kim, acquired around 300~ words, gave up on anki since its a chore (still is) and I was a lazy piece of shit, and tried to learn simply through reading. Imagine getting drunk off your ass (minus the fun and tastiness), sleeping just long enough to wake up with the world's worst hangover, and then trying to navigate your way through a foggy forest with a map and a compass. That's how I would describe it.
They have it even worse, since those occasional breaks come much less often for them, said breaks don't increase in volume to any significant degree as they practice, and their understanding of what's going on is even worse than mine was.
Seriously, if you're in this group, just learn Japanese already. I won't pretend that it's not more work up front, but it's less work in the long run than the amount of work that you put in all the time suffering through machine translation for work after work after work, and it's much more enjoyable and rewarding to actually read Japanese.
Depends on the eroge, since eroge is a catch-all term for any game that has graphic sex. The overwhelming majority of your 18+ moege and plot-centered works could have the explicit sex removed without neutering the core content. Stuff like 犯され勇者... not so much.
As the other anon said, that term that you're looking for is "nukige".
Hmm, so I finished the non-After part of Alice's route in Monobeno Happy End.
Was it the same as in the original Monobeno? If yes, then I can see why people would consider it unsatisfactory.
I know, I liked the trial. But are the characters route 99% H-scenes? I would be really glad if it had more icha icha because all the heroines are extremely cute and it's a waste with just ero.
as a shimokura hater tokyo necro is such a pain in the ass for me to play. limited story progression, huge chunk of time wasted on talking about trivial settings that probably will be unused later on, annoying perspective switch, characters lacking internal conflicts/beliefs, etc.
this guy just doesn't have what it takes to carry nitroplus
I was going to write a longwinded post on why people should ignore game classifications by anons but it's not worth it. I'm just going to say that if you see a classification here, it's almost safe to say that it's just someone using a catch-all term to complain about or flatter a game, regardless of the veracity of the statement.
To me the After route of Alice felt mostly
an excuse to add loli sex for the non-loli characters. I suppose it was alright, but same as her main route nothing really stands out.
Glad I left Sumi's until after hers, it certainly is much better as people said, so don't let Alice's route put you off.
I'm on Natsuha's route just now, and I've got to say that it is way do much of a repeat of other parts of the VN (with the first 7 scenes going over "proloag" territory and the other scenes so far being what feels like a mix of Sumi and Alice's routes). Hopefully things get better/more interesting.
Also this CG makes me feel so warm inside.
Well Iam really glad to hear this, I have a quite large faith in the writer since I really liked his previous and first work, So it's a Shame if he went full on nukige.
What I wonder about is if Alice's route in the original Monobeno ended just like in Happy End, that would be anticlimactic as fuck.
And yeah, I plan on playing through all of Happy End. And I did go with Alice's first, cause people said it's the weakest one.
The 働くオトナの恋愛事情 hasn't dissuaded them from completely giving up their DRM scheme. Maybe PURELY×CATION will be similarly "uncrackable."
They should just make it hard for non-Japanese who haven't bought the game to crack.
Online activation is a good idea but they somehow fucked it up so the executable could be cracked without a valid license. Someone on twitter even gave them an idea of streaming eroscenes but that's probably going to crash and burn once their server gets overloaded.
Hasn't someone already tried the streaming approach in the past? I remember a game that had to fish the script itself from their servers and ended up basically unplayable. Legit customers were pissed off as fuck and they released a patch to really soon.
They're furious right now and are trying to fight this anyway they can even though it's a fool's errand to fight piracy and everyone knows it.
I'm sure they're employees, when they work on other works they credit them like Haganeya Jin(Nitroplus). On their twitter accounts they also explicitly mention that they're affiliated with Nitroplus.
I'm sure if they ban a few more countries from their homepage the problem will just go away. After all, the best way to earn money is to restrict your product and alienate customers.
+ If the company goes bankrupt you will not be able to play the game you have bought, so I'm not sure why would somebody spend 10.000 yen in such a game.
Yeah if its some huge popular thing like Sakura no Uta, a looseboy, nasu game, even maybe key games etc It might work, but for the random games like 働くオトナの恋愛事情 or purely cation? Definitely dont think so.
I honestly don't recommend Hola, but if you prefer that to writing a few simple tweets then that's up to you.
At least pay for a VPN or use TsukubaU's VPN Gate (less secure) if you're picking the "lazy route" (it's actually more work but w/e).
Maybe if you know the range of IPs you're likely to receive with your dynamic IP, then you can request a range whitelisting. You'd have to talk it over with him though, he seemed pretty attentive when the subject was EGS and replied relatively quickly.
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>helps a poor student with his master thesis about visual novels
Why would you do that
Hmm, someone in my year wrote a commentated translation of one of ZUN's short stories as his thesis and I though that was kinda out there already.
But history of eroge? Must have been fun pitching that.
Apparently it was since he needed at least some kind of empirical studies already done to back it up. I helped him look for official sources/etc to cross-reference but I guess he had enough interest and fun and backup besides my advice to be able to whip up a decent study. I don't speak Dutch so I don't know what the final result was, though it was accepted.
in atmosphere yes. you get that old school yuri with elegant girls being melancholic for very sentimental reasons.
but a lot of the story is about solving puzzles and mystery so there's that.
>What are Haganeya and Narahara even doing at N+ right now?
>I'm sure they're employees, when they work on other works they credit them like Haganeya Jin(Nitroplus). On their twitter accounts they also explicitly mention that they're affiliated with Nitroplus.
That doesn't really mean anything since there are freelancers like Kaihou who's credited like that.
That was a longtime ago, and even the novel continuation he and Urobuchi handed out to some other freelance writer.
That's right, Kaihou is a freelancer, Gakkou gurashi must have been a commission from Nitroplus.
Nope, he has actually ended up writting it together with that freelance writer (who has also collaborated with Nitroplus on some stuff).
And don't forget that he has also worked on the final Gaim movie and 2 Gaim specials (looks like there will be another one too).
Also here's a list of staff that worked on 熱風海陸ブシロード anime but only 2 out of those who have Nitroplus in brackets near their name are actually working in that company.
Results are out.
Overall best: Sakura no Uta
Best scenario: Sakura no Uta
Best music: Sakura no Uta
Best character: Natsume Ai at second spot
>Best character: 8位. 玖音 彩乃
What the fuck, Who the hell voted for her. wasn't everyone flaming how she and her route sucked etc? That route was worst one I have played at 2015 for sure. Also Wakaba at 11, Inori at 6, Nonoka at 3 while the best character Hikari is not even at the list. Did saga planets somewhat hacked the rankings or something?
Trolls? As a someone who personally played and enjoyed the game, Kuon was one of the worst heroines at 2015. She mentioned the dead guy at almost every dialog, and mc was just a replacement for him.
I have no problem with other three though.
Hardly noteworthy if the game itself is a complete bore
Depends on your preferences, but I'm personally looking forward to ノラと皇女と野良猫ハート and 罪ノ光ランデヴー. Also kind of interested in ワールド・エレクション since I'm interested in the author and 1分の2恋ゴコロ since it's been getting delayed since like August 2015.
Nukige not much, probably おさこい since I liked their previous work and ハプニングLOVE because Tamiyasu Tomoe.
I've only read the Alice route of the original game and so far I remember
they just kind of flee from the city assisted by the cow lady, timeskip until way later where protag has wifed Alice and Natsuha is in plot-coma.
I have never lost respect for a character faster than I just did. Holy crap. The more I read of Gun Knight Girl the more baffled I get.
In brief, someone other than the protagonist did something awful, but he's getting mad at the protagonist for it using the warped logic in the picture. To the point of literally attacking the protagonist with fists, chocking him, etc. It's completely unjustified, unreasonable, and bat-shit insane for a
childhood friendof so many years to act like that, especially when the protagonist didn't want it to happen at all either. The closest analogy I can give is getting so mad at someone who got robbed that you punch THEM in the face instead of the robber himself.
All of this is compounded on the fact that in the other route I did (and the common route) they're tight-as-fuck bros, but in this route it is thrown out the window for 0 reason. I'm honestly more critical of the author, than of the character like I implied. What's wrong here is the author being really really dumb and the character behaving poorly as a result.
The common route was really good, and I hope the true route will be really good too, but yeah I don't think you're missing a lot given how poorly done the character routes are. Well, poorly done in my opinion - I'm seeing Gun Knight Girl get high ratings all over the place so it could just be me over-exaggerating the flaws. Having a yandere main heroine in a "full" commercial work like this is surprisingly refreshing, too bad she's not there for most of the game. The mech battles with animation are cool too, but it's just 俺TUE stuff so they're not interesting beyond the production values. The humour is often pretty funny. So, there's a lot to like here.
Unless you're really fond of adventure games I'd probably use a guide myself. There's a couple of tricky spots combined with like one pixel clicks that are just more trouble than they're worth.
> implying FH is good
Haha, look at this nigga.
Everyone I know dropped it half-way, its violent semen inferno kind of game — as in, people recommend it as a joke, while actually they know its terrible.
>Everyone I know dropped it half-way, its violent semen inferno kind of game — as in, people recommend it as a joke, while actually they know its terrible.
Maybe in your shitty circlejerks, but people in this thread have been recommending it for a long time because they liked it.
I totally disagree with you, in fact I'm going to say you are a fucktard.
her VA is great. she's a naughty onee-san character, childish at times but then always turns mature when needed. ichaicha scenes aren't one-sided, mc and ayano switch turns 甘える toward each other. I would sure vote for her. I don't see a problem with her being 8th.
you think hikari not on the list is totally bullshit, oh well, please acknowledge the fact just because you like her the best doesn't mean everyone else does.
also, ayano's route doesn't suck. her route reveals the most about the main story and leads up to the true ending. you mention as if the "dead guy" is not important at all, LOL. mc is not a replacement for him, I don't know what the fuck is wrong with you and why you would think that way.
you think the result is rigged? fucking shame on you.
>mc is not a replacement for him, I don't know what the fuck is wrong with you and why you would think that way.
Suuure man, your entire post is bullshit. Mc is definitely a replacement for him, since you can see how actually she was in love with him and waited a couple of years in the school just for the seeing the kid who dead guy mentioned as "similiar to me". Her route doesn't suck? lmao her entire route was how the dead guy gave her a plush toy which she treasured more than her life, how the dead guy saved her from the boring life and how she couldn't get over with the dead guy's death.
There wasnt even a single reason for her falling in love with mc, she is just contenting herself with him since she cant together with the dead guy anymore.
I guess everyone must be a "fucktard" for you since this is the second positive post I have ever read about Kuon. Just check the EGS, 2ch or some other platforms.
I was half joking about the Hikari though, While I liked her for sure there were way better heroines at the 2015 than her.
>Mc is definitely a replacement for him, since you can see how actually she was in love with him
she's not in love with asuka. asuka is important to her, but he is only a good friend. stop making things up. if you want to convince me post me an actual evidence.
>Her route doesn't suck? lmao her entire route was how the dead guy gave her a plush toy which she treasured more than her life
what's wrong with treasuring something that reminds you of your friend that died all of a sudden? you considered that funny? and it's not like she doesn't care about anything other than the stuffed animal, it's only because it's gone. she also mentioned that part of her thinks it's okay for it to never be found.
>how she couldn't get over with the dead guy's death.
I guess mc and the true ending must also be the worst for you. am I right?
>There wasnt even a single reason for her falling in love with mc
NOT A SINGLE REASON?
>I guess everyone must be a "fucktard" for you
no, you're the only fucktard because you call her one of the worst heroines of 2015 when clearly she's not. the result proves you wrong, and you're trying to deny it by saying it's rigged.
>Just check the EGS, 2ch or some other platforms.
why would I need to?
You are trying so hard, its actually funny. Specially the >but he is only a good friend, if you want to convince me post me an actual evidence part. Every fucking person who has read it realized that she was in love with asuka, but the writer didnt have balls to write that because that'd be end of the saga planets. Now lets continue;
>she also mentioned that part of her thinks it's okay for it to never be found.
She only mentioned this after having sex with mc, because she already found another toy which reminds him. You can see how much she cares about the toy at the common route.
>I guess mc and the true ending must also be the worst for you. am I right?
Not really, while Asuka's dying reason was retarded as fuck that didnt bother me that much. At least definitely not more than some heroine who thoughts mc just as a Asuka pre-version.
>what's wrong with treasuring something that reminds you of your friend that died all of a sudden?
Lol, she is clinging to that clubroom he created so hard, tries her best for years for protecting it, would risks her life for the plush toy, still lives by his words and thinks about him when she is alone but nah thats all about being friend. Thats definitely not because they are scared of the non-virgin fans, thats because she just thought him as a friend who she "hated", alright.
>the result proves you wrong, and you're trying to deny it by saying it's rigged.
And >why would I need to?
I guess this is the most ironic thing in your post. So you are saying a getchu ranking without any comments / thoughts for the characters, which is pretty easy to manipulate, is more trustworthy than the posts which include actual people's thoughts?
I guess I'll share a couple with you;
I can give you many comments like this, but seems like you prefer having a getchu ranking instead of those so I'll not bother with them. You can check jp's archive, revivew blogs, 2ch, egs, twitter etc for more. But nah, you dont need to check them , you have getchu ranking, that proves every shit.
Cube has Kantoku
Cube also has all sister heroine incest games.
Isn't there some way to merge the two?
Aren't kantoku and their other artist's styles pretty similiar anyway? While I think Kantoku is a little better than other one too, it feels like just about using lighter / darker colours to me.
>Every fucking person who has read it realized that she was in love with asuka
clearly not every.
>She only mentioned this after having sex with mc
I prove you wrong again, she said this before they had sex.
>At least definitely not more than some heroine who thoughts mc just as a Asuka pre-version.
you're simplying hating her because of that, which isn't true at all.
>So you are saying a getchu ranking without any comments / thoughts for the characters, which is pretty easy to manipulate, is more trustworthy than the posts which include actual people's thoughts?
I never said that. I never say people's comment don't matter.
stop making up new shits.
I said it because your comments are full of shit, and instead of providing facts to prove me wrong, you tell me to go somewhere else and read someone else's comment.
why would I need to listen to what you said? fucktard
you think ranking which consists of so many votes is less trustworthy that a comment that any guy can write?
>I can give you many comments like this
no, you're just pulling out some of those people like you that think ayano likes asuka.
the vast majority of people didn't even mention it being a problem.
if you want to persuade me that ayano likes/d asuka, prove it. you can't.
>you have getchu ranking, that proves every shit.
And I'll not even try anymore. All you are saying is "Prove me I'm wrong, you cant haha" shit. Every fucking person "except you" knows that she was in love with Asuka, not a single person write something positive about her, there are tons of negative thoughts about her at every fucking platform, but you are still saying "prove me, lol you cant" I guess you cant understand that writer didnt actually put any real evidence because that would saga planet's end. With a little brain you could understand just as everyone else, but nah you prefer living in your pink dream world where she likes only mc.
You can check the older threads and see how majority - or almost everyone- thinks about her in this thread: no I dont care about them.
You can check EGS reviews and see how there isnt a single positive post about her: why would I read someone else's comment.
You can look into 2ch, twitter, review blogs etc: Fucktard
And lastly "no, you're just pulling out some of those people like you that think ayano likes asuka."
I guess this is the end of your logic. And yes, I think the actual thoughts of different people are more trustworthy than some ranking because there are pretty easy ways to spam votes in those. + I'll not bother with responding this anymore.
Lately most Bishop games are really boring. Usually even with their typical nukige plot they can still make it up with very good H-scenes and decent character designs, but now even those fell behind.
By today's standards? Probably not. I'm twenty-four myself. Maybe in the past though. No one alive could compare to the accomplishments of Alexander the Great by today's standards at the age he accomplished things at, and soon after died at on the streets of Babylon.
Or more like, it had the same problems as the anime. Characters don't have any redeeming features and it feels dull overall, even though the nichijou parts were better in the VN.
>Chaos;Child PC version is 15 years old above
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WA2 on Vita is pretty cheap, Furuiro Meikyuu Rondo and Amagami had a good promotion last month, I don't know if it's still available
And obviously Oretsuba though you can also get it on PS3, the new route is only 4-5 hours long but it's worth it
No point when these are coming to PC soon.
I don't see any reason to play VNs on my Vita, personally, since they're always censored. I just use it for RPGs like the Kiseki series and God Eater. Utawarerumono 2 was fun though.
It works like gambling except there is no chance you'll ever gain anything
So it's actually worse than gambling, you lose money for nothing
Don't listen to that guy >>14717482 he is just an addict, stay far away from these shit