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This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.
What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished? You know the drill.
Since 2012, so 4-5 years I guess. I was spamming MangaGamer's blog for Shin koihime musou, in the end they got bored of it and said they couldn't license it so they cant release, at least in the near future -it happened at the around of halfway 2011, dont remember the exact date- With that rage I started working on japanese with all my free time, and started reading the game at the picture date. I was pretty slow and it took two months though. Hell I'm still keeping the game in my hdd.
if you just take the time between my first and latest, five years since 2010.
but I've probably read less VNs than 90% of this thread. My started to completed ratio is probably something like 1:7, I drop things very easily and I didn't read anything in 2014
Hell I had just read it.
Tsuminohi for me, the trial was really like yorino which I liked a lot last year.
I'd do otome riron but I'm so tired of the series at this point, didn't particularly enjoy tsuriotsu 2 either.
Maybe the new harukaze too, the art seems better than their last game which is a plus, especially the necks.
I seriously wonder who the hell still buys it. I know muvluv has some fans who doesn't care about the product itself as long as there is a muvluv word in the title, but never heard anything similiar about fortissimo.
幕末 尽忠報国烈士伝 「MIBURO」
You liked Chushingura 46+1, right?
For me the appeal and why BISHOP is special is because its an intimate break game.
I really dislike girl sharing so to me most minbreak games sucks because the MC wants rather make the girl a cumslut than his personal slave. Most MB VNs relies on the main guy using others to do the mindbreak for him which gets stale really quick.
Also like to name my MC which adds to the immersion.
I really think BISHOP artist Oonari fits really well for that kind of games and is one of the best artists for that genre.
Also the soundtrack is very strong in those games and i like the sex sounds.
Is there any /jp/ archive alternative for Warosu? I'd look there if it wasn't dead since I assume this has been asked before already:
Is there any recommended order or routes I should skip in Nanairo Reincarnation?
>I really dislike girl sharing
I enjoy it in nukige, since it's not like I can develop an emotional connection to sluts anyway. Might as well go all the way if you're going to slut someone up.
Someone actually bought it.
Romeo has never had public appeal. That's why he's still famous for his curse (KID/Regista/ruf/FlyingShine/etc...).
I suppose we'll see Kouya flop as well but still be well-regarded in general, such are the fates of Romeo works. Time will tell.
Do any of you feel jaded on VNs? What would it take for you to truly enjoy something? A solid take on a common idea? Something truly novel? Bringing back features discarded by time from the genre?
Good writing. It sounds pretentious of me but there are in general two kinds of writers for me: those I find myself nodding along to and actually thinking about many of their lines, and those who are just so dull and uninspired their lines become a means to an end (i.e. cool battle plot or ecchi or some such). I'm getting really jaded with VNs with writers of the second kind. Even with really good VNs, I can't bring myself to tolerate dull writing, and end up spending the whole time wanting to read something else. With "real" books this rarely matters, because thanks to editing, plots can carry them even with dull writing, but with VNs and their padding/huge lengths, it becomes intolerable. At least thats how I figure it anyway.
I don't think common routes need any special takes, or new settings, or bringing back old features (though more VNs implementing game systems would not be unwelcome). VNs are novels, what they need for me is simply good writing. Well, actually, about the game system, dating sims like Tokimeki Memorial and JRPGs like, uh, Sol Trigger can be fun despite poor writing thanks to their gameplay, so perhaps there's an idea there. Replace all padding with JRPG systems. Haha.
elements that aid the escapism. I think VN is not something you should play every day of the week. instead you should play one or two titles that you are interested at the moment, take a long break and play again next month.
at the end of the day the quality of an average VN is not gonna blow your mind. the unique entertainment it provides is what should matter.
I was thinking of Dostoevsky when I wrote that post, I haven't actually read a really good amount of VNs yet, however I like what I've read of all the meme-level authors such as, you guessed it, Romeo, Masada, etc etc. I also enjoy the line-by-line pacing of writing in novels such as those written by Watanabe Ryouichi and Mareni, those two keep me entertained throughout. I would be delighted if I could provide names that wouldn't make me look like a memester but sorry, not that well read yet. As for the latter type, you can find them everywhere. It's be cheap to point to moege since no one expects anything from them, so in terms of VNs that actually tried to have a good plot, Hatsumira and Gun Knight Girl are both VNs with truly dull and truly poorly paced, the worst of both worlds.
I want nothing special, just interesting theme, good characters, entertaining story etc. No copy paste, no padding.
Writers seem to have no freedom at all, only know how many characters they need to shit out for the deadline.
I enjoy anything that keeps me entertained overall, but I have a special love for things that attempt to break or fuck around with patterns, stereotypes or the medium. Any attempt at creativity and novelty, basically. I like my mind being blown. It's why denpa and metafiction are my favorite genres. Of course I'm in a bad position because there's very little of it, but I enjoy most scenarioge and charage anyway.
It turns out one of my CDs off of Suruga-ya was actually an eroge.
Its a Touhou eroge made around 2004, featuring primarily the cast of EoSD.
Alright, I'll bite.
Higurashi and Higanbana are top tier when it comes to quality writing in VNs. Both have great pacing with alternating calm and exciting sequences, well fleshed-out characters with complex motivations, and make use of their medium to create mood by using all sorts of stylistic devices, making creative use of backgrounds, soundeffects and employing multiperspectivist storytelling and unreliable narrators where it makes sense. I haven't really been able to find anything else on that level though. For the most part VN writers seem to be content with just doing the same shit everyone else does.
When you look at highly regarded VNs like Steins;Gate, the Fate series or the infinity series they are pretty good examples of flat, or at least underdeveloped characters, terrible pacing and 'huge stretches of nothing', which rely on some kind of gimmick to keep the reader interested.
>Higurashi and Higanbana are top tier when it comes to quality writing in VNs
Sorry but no
I'm not the type to nitpick to other people taste but you really had to start with R07?
>Pacing is R07's weakest point.
There is also the fact that he like repeating the same shit 5 times in the same paragraph
Or that he has no vocabulary and overuse ellipsis like no one business
Or that all his stories are based on some extremely stupid shit like parasites or the maid is the butler is the witch
Honestly I would have a hard time thinking of some good points, even the unreliable narrator business he overuses because it's the easy to make a twist shit he uses badly, Lucia's route in Rewrite for example where he downright lie to the reader for no reason
That's not me guys.
I think it's pretty reasonable to expect a good author to be fairly consistent in producing good VNs, so there's no need to specifically list good VNs, especially when the authors I listed have so many well-known works.
There are plenty of valid reasons to dislike Kentoma (I wasn't a fan myself) but this is not one of them. You have plenty of reviews on Amazon complaining about how it doesn't follow LN conventions and feels like a regular novel instead. How do you figure it was "generic anime 101"?
Why would you make a post like this knowing you were going to get ridiculed?
Anyone else playing this? Pretty good for a cucking simulator.
>its not even good NTR.
Anyone who says that clearly didn't read the first two games. NTR was barely given attention, thats simply not the kind of series Tsuma Migui is. The appeal is front and center slutty milfs, and yes "slutty" as in fucks a lot of dudes. The appeal is not nuanced or even meaningful NTR.
Are you in the first chaper?
It does get good, yes, although Makoto's route is a drag.
Rin might like you or not, I don't know at what point of the game you are.
But she's not boring.
Yes, first chapter. I haven't even run across the last heroine or the lesbian. I'm just not one for the whole childhood friend thing or characters who are as docile as she seems. And the most common way for a character to not be as docile as they seem is to be a yandere which is even worse. Taking that into account, she gets better eventually?
I just wanted to make sure I was not going to miss anything, I was going to drop it anyways because none of the girls really caught my eye.
>The plot isn't even important
My point exactly.
She's still docile but she's
a horny closet pervertand her interactions with Naoya get pretty amusing based on that, but it still depends on if you personally find that and the dialogues funny.
it doesn't drag on at least, Rin's route isn't long.
Thanks, just played through the canon ending. It's been a while since a game hooked me enough to finish it in just a few sittings. I ended up
guessing the main twist almost from the beginning, but it was nonetheless an entertaining ride. Excellent pacing.
I originally picked up this game because Akeiro Kaikitan's OP seemed interesting and I wanted to play through the prequel first, and while the H and SoL scenes in this route weren't too abundant I'm not sure if I'm ready to play the others, at least not right after this one if they don't have a similar
emotional payoff at the end.
Nanairo in my opinion is a masterpiece of pacing: constantly introducing new characters and moving the main plot along with barely any padding. It's a fucking wonder the same author wrote Gun Knight Girl which is the exact opposite of that.
>they translate Nitroplus Blasterz but not Kishin Hishou
The main draw of the game is the weird plot and unique storytelling style rather than any long-winded philosophical ramblings on part of the author, if that's what you're asking. It's hard to say anything without spoiling it.
What do you mean rely? It's not like anyone can know every Japanese word ever. I have it running in the background so I can easily look up stuff in a J-J dictionary if I need to.
Recently I read Monobeno's Alice's After route in one go and I needed to look up around 10 words in it. Does that count as relying on it?
They usually spend more time with memes and superfluous arguments than actual reading. I'd imagine that it'd be difficult and unreliable to trust them, even if there are a few exceptions among the group.
How are you able to use it to look up J-J with it? I thought parser and mecab were the only ones that you could use and they happen to be in English.
10 words definitely doesn't count as relying on it. At that point, you could also just google the words without looking them up without expending much time. That's more or less what I mean by not having to rely on it.
Please don't assume that everybody happens to a troll from that absolutely cancerous place.
In short, I've only been reading for a few months and have finished a few untranslated titles from here and then. I recently started Tokyo Necro and while the sentence structure was easy to grasp, there were a number of words from the first scene that I wasn't familiar with. Not having some kind of text hooking problem made me feel a bit helpless when I had to painstakingly search up each word manually every time.
I'm just curious about how long it typically takes until that kind of stuff gets better. I'm guessing that 2 years here is the norm?
>Not having some kind of text hooking problem made me feel a bit helpless when I had to painstakingly search up each word manually every time.
WWWJDIC has an app with HKR and ORC.
>How are you able to use it to look up J-J with it?
As you said, I just google them (+ 意味) and get Japanese online dictionaries as results.
I use text hooking to be able to easily copypaste them.
Anyway, even if your intentions are good, Japanese learning dicussion is looked down upon here. But I understand if you don't want to ask in DJT, it's terrible.
I think I answered this question at least 3-4 times in this thread, but yes. Only from the companies I like, and mostly after I have read the game itself though. In short not buying like "Oh this game seems good, lets buy and try it", just for the sake of supporting them so they wouldnt go bankrupt.
I'll preorder the games from a couple of companies that I like.
After downloading a game, if I really like it I'll buy it as well.
I used to buy most of age's releases but since they've made nothing but garbage the past several years I haven't bought anything of theirs in 2 or 3 years.
Yeah, I liked them too. I didn't say I didn't. I just said I wouldn't call them "amazing", I think words like "amazing" and "masterpiece" should be reserved only for works that pull everything off perfectly or very near perfectly.
Bit late but, I just finished as well. Miyu's route is pretty stupid, yea. Fuck nonstop boyfriend at love hotel and his place for a day or two, get into a fight with papa and then reconcile in under an hour.
pretty sick climax
Are those games for broken neck patients?
(Renai Jijou, Miyu route spoilers)
What a bitch. I know she's a detective, but did she really just rat out two of her friends over a job?
Talking about Gun Knight Girl, how were war and the military portrayed in it? I'm pretty interested in how authors portray those things in military works, it's why I loved Gunjou no Sora o Koete. I think both Hayakari and Kazuki are lightly mili-otas.
I didn't before when I lived in the UK, but I'm planning to do so now since I've moved to Japan and don't have to worry about laws/family and friends finding my loli collection.
First thing I bought (well, pre-ordered) was the Maitetsu & Monobeno set. The pre-order section beside the entrance to Sofmap Akiba is incredibly convenient. I wonder if it is an indication of how much the industry relies on pre-orders.
Not him, but it's not like most Japanese people are good at their language either. If you're committed and study or work in Japan for a while you'll reach a native level before long.
Poorly and well at the same time. I like how the characters treated it pretty seriously and knew they were their lives were in danger and whatnot. The main problem I had with it was the mere fact that there are only 3 adult characters in the entire game. The "principal", "assistant principal", and the scientist. So, it never really feels like the military. Not to mention their tits are huge which is honestly far more distracting than you would think.
I love the character chemistry in Nanairo, even if the plot is quite shallow. It\s really nice how characters are almost always present even if the mc has relations or intentions for one of them. There\s a moderate, but sufficient amount of sex.
Aoi is best oni.
>It it's not like most Japanese people are good at their language either.
That doesn't mean the standard for fluency is reduced, though. And you might as well say that for any language.
Direct link to 罪ノ光ランデヴー tsuminohi trial was posted in a previous thread:
Given that Kotori isn't there, it's likely that this follows the "true end" of Kotori disappearing, and thus it's unlikely he developed a relationship with any of the girls, just a guess though.I didn't see Yumi or Kotori on the character pages for Akeiro
Finished the 罪ノ光ランデヴー trial.
Actually pleasantly surprised. The pacing is pretty nice and the heroines are interesting. The production is also obviously a big plus.
I liked how the trial itself could be considered an entire route.
I haven't played ソレヨリノ前奏詩 but I've looked at egs reviews for it and saw a lot of people saying that if you take the production away from it nothing remains to enjoy and that it has way too much h scenes.
Hopefully the same won't apply to 罪ノ光.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure I'll end up playing the whole thing.
>nothing remains to enjoy and that it has way too much h scenes.
I'd disagree, if you stick solely to Towa's route, the game is a quite good relationship drama game with a strong focus on the main relationship throughout.
It's definitely worth a play if you liked tsuminohi's trial.
I agree with >>14731913 - I think you would like Soreyorino in any case. Also, every heroine had ~3-4 H-scenes, I think that's pretty standard nowadays. They were pretty long each, though, but that's not rare either.
Why is she such a hypocrite? Fucking hell
Besides the fact that minori's engine is pretty old, I remember the same problem in walking scenes with PRIMALxHEARTS. I think nips can't code in general. The petals thing I think it's intentional since it seems to be sprite/frame based animation.
Yet another gaijin blocked site. Posting this because I remember people saying not many sites still did that. Anyway, what I have seen of this from not this website makes it look fucking cool.
NostalgicChord is one of the Akabe Soft's sub company. Every akabe soft company have the gaijin block, Just as Effordom Soft, Cosmic Cute, Syangrila, Hibiki Works etc. I'm not sure why the hell they have that much sub companies but in short all of them are belong to same shit.
I went to try and actually buy the game since it wasn't on nyaa and there seems to be no way for me to do so without installing a VPN or something. DMM auto-sending me to the Eng version of the site (which doesn't allow me to buy the game, clicking buy sends me to an error page saying I'm not allowed to do that where I live). That's annoying. I guess that's my answer to those Japanese guys that always ask "why don't you buy VNs".
Nope, Teacher is the best girl for sure. Most likely they couldnt make a route for her because Ogata Megumi is refusing to voice any ero-scenes. Hell she felt like a heroine more than all others.
I live in America, but that doesn't mean I don't know Japanese. The whole page is translated to English so even if there's some button I'm missing that says "go to japan site" it wouldn't mean I don't know Japanese.
You can edit your region cookie to allow you into the Japanese parts of the website, the people playing Japan-only DMM webgames have been doing it for ages.
I think once you get that far you will be able to use your regular credit card without issues.
It's pretty good.
The only problem is the god awful start up sequence and saving/quick saving taking about 10 seconds.
Finished Ilya and Mitsumi routes and doing Kon Su now.
Ethica shouldn't be a protagonist, she doesn't do anything other than fight someone to let Souun go forward, her voice is annoying too.
The music is very good, especially Milgram's theme.
Not him but I'll wreck you up, mate.
Holy fuck why are they blinking like there's sand in their eyes? Movement is uncanny as fuck too, it's like those amateur "animations" on Pixiv, makes the characters look like dolls rather than human lolis.
I dont have a problem with it if there will be an off button, but really I'd like to see some Witch Garden or at least Tenkiame level e-mote as well.
Speaking about it, will ウィザーズコンプレックス have e-mote in it? I guess not since I didnt hear anything about that yet, such a shame.
I'm used to unnatural animations in eroge OPs but it seems they'll be like this in-game too so I'll be turning e-mote off.
We don't know since we don't have a trial. If you're talking about the showcase videos, they were just captured at a low framerate. By the way have they said when are we getting a trial?
I buy some off DMM and bought a few from steam just to support them. Back in the days I bought quite a few games like akaiito, ever17 and memories off.
But for a full price commercial VN, if you can even somehow buy online, there is no resale value or collection value, it's a very bad deal. Not to mention the high price.
So this is the story about
an impure girl being saved by an umbrella and then learning masturbation from the actual god that wanted to kill her before?
What a past chapter. When I saw "past" in the scene selection I thought it's gonna be about Tooru's dad or something.
For some reason the relationship between Tooru and Natsuha just feels wrong. I feel like it would have been better if they just remained brother and sister and had no romantic feelings for each other. Also I find it odd that they have touched (a tiny bit so far) on the incest thing but not the fact that Tooru is having sex with a child who isn't even old enough to have had her period yet (mental age anyway, the whole
IAGSthing changes things a bit). There must be over a 10 year difference in their ages.
Not that it stops me from fapping to the scenes though, I felt Sumi was the best fit for Tooru and had the best route but I find Natsuha more fappable.
Yeah, I was thinking the same as you. I've got to say that I like Hishakaku much more than I expected. When I first saw him I thought it was a bit ridiculous, but he turned out to be a great character.
Also, don't you like the default font?
Yeah, I agree about Hishakaku, he's great. Takijorou too. And Furusoma. Especially Furusoma's voice. What were they thinking? If I heard a voice like that in a forest, I'd probably think it's someone pranking me.
I'm still in Sumi's route, going to start the After part of it now, but yeah, I can imagine how will Natsuha's H scenes be like after seeing the ones with loli Alice.
>parents taught me about sex
>and told me it's something you can't do until you grow up
>but let's do it anyway
The writing itself is definetly way less indulgent in this aspect that I presumed. I can't help but wonder if Lose is pandering so much to lolicons because it's simply how their brand turned up and because it's what people wanted for Happy End.
Lose has never not pandered to lolicons. That's sort of the point of the brand.
GosuDeli was originally gonna be non-H though.
And yeah, they obviously do pander to lolicons, it's just that Monobeno kinda reminds the reader how wrong it is.
Or maybe some people like to be reminded of it? Taboo's are alluring after all.
>Best girl has no route.
Japanese eroge in a nutshell
So I'm using translation aggregator, I got it going just fine except for one problem.
ITH is refusing to clip board text with hearts in them, and google yeilds nothing since heart just syncs up to vn names with the word heart in them.
Hearts are like 30% of all the girl's ero lines or what have you, so its pretty surprising i couldnt find anything. does anyone know why this might happen or how to fix it?
This is how i learn japanese. with the translation and the phoenetics side by side in a sentance, and the emotional high of sex, the dictionary words stick in my mind more.
it really doesn't but i guess you don't know how to fix it either way.
Nobody except you and me like R07 here, bud. And I already read a few hours of the trial but I didn't like it. Characters felt bland and generic along with the plot. I will probably read more later but for now it didn't leave me with a good impression.
I like too R07 a lot. Umineko was really entertaining and the mysteries cool. The soundtrack, I think, is unarguably fantastic, simply due to the wide range of style and overall competency of it that even if you don't like some of it there will be stuff you like. I for one like just about all of it. I only watched the Higurashi anime (wasn't into VNs at the time) but was moved by the speech about depending on your friends, for personal reasons. I'm not sure why people call him a hack when his writing is better than a lot of the stuff posted here in my opinion. I didn't even mind the repetition. Not calling him amazing or top of the top though, I too noticed the decline in quality following Ep5, Ep4's pacing was god-awful, etc etc.
>The soundtrack, I think, is unarguably fantastic, simply due to the wide range of style and overall competency of it that even if you don't like some of it there will be stuff you like. I for one like just about all of it
And what does that have to do with R07?
He was just lucky to be given some really good tracks
Director, man. He made Umineko from the ground up and made everything about it possible. I like the soundtrack of Umineko. Therefore, I like him. I also praise dir and all the composers, they're good and made good stuff.
First time you play the game's linear. Completing the first ending unlocks heroine routes and completing them unlocks true "route". I'd heavily suggest using a walkthrough after the first ending in order to get to the heroine routes as otherwise it's a pain in the ass and the game forces you to restart from the beginning every time since it's not just a case of one choice affecting your route, even though it'd be perfectly fine if the game worked that way since the branching points are at old choices.
There's also a recommended order:
Common > Uki > Hinae > Hana > Nono > True
The only ones who like him are pure autists who are busy uploading 24h videos on youtube about how Rosa is actually Beatrice and shit
R07 probably attract autism by the way he keeps repeating the same shit forever, repetition is a sign of autism after all
I don't get why people are so active on hating r07 but don't give a fuck about even worse authors. It just makes your position seem built upon non-conformism and hating popular games rather than having any actual intelligent criticism
Koisora has better writing than anything R07 ever did
Ditto for Startrain and Nega0
They are basically at the same level in term mixing a fuck tons of random setting shit but at least Kure didn't bore the fuck out of the reader in his best game, Doko e Iku no though his other titles are even worse than R07 stuff
He is pretty decent, what he did in Zero Infinity where he was the main writer was good, especially Marlene route
>Infinite other doujin authors
That's not a name
>They're not as bad as R07!
That's your whole argument. Either way I don't have an opinion about R07 so I don't really care. If you are really interested in knowing and not just relieving your stress here, go check the R07 thread in 2ch.
I went to fuwa and there was this passionate guy talking about his translation project, people got interested, then he said "I just need a translator" and what followed the most awkward drop in interest and silence I've ever seen in a chat room
It won't be easy to get it in English. The translation is not out officially, but you can write and email to PQube (they released the first SG in English on consoles) and they'll let you participate in the English beta. Just say you're good at English and can spot mistakes etc.
I mean, English beta is even better than piracy. Free and you're not even doing anything bad.
Since 2009 with Higurashi for the DS.
I'm not an avid reader like most of this thread, though. I've mostly only read the big titles (Higurashi, MLA, Baldr Sky, Muramasa, Subahibi, Saku-uta, Asairo, etc...)
>at least Kure didn't bore the fuck out of the reader in his best game, Doko e Iku no though his other titles are even worse than R07 stuff
Ashita deatta Shoujo is great too, and Kure did a lot of work on Suika which is also good. It's such a loss that he switched to shitty moege.
Someone tell me what to read next, I don't even care what it is
Couldn't find a working one anywhere, another one please
Reading Utawarerumono 2 is painful.
Looking up all that imperial protocol words without a text hooker, every time it's some official business my reading speed slows to a crawl. And the writer also likes to use some random 四字熟語 every second sentence.
If you like Umineko's music then you should like ZTS instead of Ryu07, that guy truly has a fervent passion for eroge as well and it shows in his musical history, music label and doujin game soundtrack covers even way before he was known for the Umineko OST-- his Yoru ga Kuru! (HONEST SMILE) cover and Sore ha Kaze no you ni (Fortunately be) cover are still one of my favorite doujin musical pieces.
It can be a pain when you are facing a whole bunch of new words you don't know. Like 3 different words that are only used to say "visiting the imperial palace/emperor".
You should have seen Nakase Hina's face during the, "Embarrassing performance" part.
Holy fuck, that part at 30:00 when she demonstrates the sounds she makes when being raped by 50 monsters... I can't handle this.
Listening to her voice even outside of a sexual context is pretty arousing though.
Actually shyness / embarrassment of girls is one of my fetishes, so I understand the point of it. However, it's done poorly and the girls are acting really unnaturally, which is why even I can't enjoy it.
Wow, I want Nakase Hina to slap me too.
Watching this though, I'm only 15 minutes in but I haven't cringed, laughed and had my interest piqued in such a short span consecutively before in a long while.
In the end, I had to pause because I was laughing too hard.
I think I've found new respect for Himari, even though Hina is more my type of voice. She must be a blast to work with in the rec room.
Best thing I've seem this year.
Really liked Himari voicing クロア in Evenicle so seeing her doing voice acting live felt great.
Uta 2 has a rich vocab but no weird/uncommon words, this is all stuff you'll see used a lot when you read/watch stuff. In fact it's a great game for learning the modern language, imho.
Just a time to fill in the gaps in your vocab anon.
You should be using a text hooker even if you're 'fluent'. A new word/idiom/reference will appear and then and copy-paste is faster than typing.
Unless you're a lazy fuck who can't be bothered to improve his language skills, in which case please kindly remove yourself from the gene pool. :)