This thread is for the discussion of untranslated Japanese visual novels.
What are you playing? What are you looking forward to? What have you finished? You know the drill.
Just saw it too. I haven't read the trial but this isn't very reassuring. I guess I'll just wait for the full release. Some lines about reaching money and fame after starting as an eroge writer sounded like masturbation honestly, considering Takahiro and Romeo are behind this. But it depends on the route they take on it.
Thinking of starting this. For those who have played it, is it any good?
Also, filthy machine-translated subhuman here. You should use Direwolf (from hongfire)+ the MT conversation patch here right? http://nekohen.org/translations/?attachment_id=971
Schwarzesmarken has all my attention at the moment and enjoying it so far.
It seems to me that the vast majority of VNs I play that attempt a story always end up being really boring and poorly paced. In Gun Knight Girl the common route moved at a pretty good pace, exposition about the world being dropped in tantalizing bits, the mystery of the 施設 slowly growing in importance, girls revealing more and more of their personality... and then bam, a major plot point hits (senpai goes missing) and it's been so long since then of 0 progress in any bit of the story, just endless wanking over the situation with some romanced tossed in, the momentum is crushed and I don't even want to read any more of it because it's taking so long for anything to happen and to be quite honest I don't give a single fuck about the predicament, yet it's all MC is thinking about now. I dislike getting really into a VN only for it to cockblock me with god-awful pacing.
I put spoiler tags over the senpai bit, don't know where they went, what a shame, that bit is in the VNDB description anyway so don't worry about it spoiling anything, it really won't.
I'd rather it just be a reasonable length... who wants to pay money just to be bored? I see your point though.
>But I guess it has to be that way since you have to get your monies worth.
This. I generally find better pacing in older eroge since consumers didn't expect every full-price eroge to be 40+ hours long back then. Most of the time you get just as much actual story, just less padding.
>Some lines about reaching money and fame after starting as an eroge writer sounded like masturbation honestly
Having read the trial, I guarantee you it won't stay like that. It looks like Romeo is planning to give a pretty frank view of both the good and bad of the industry (with a certain amount of dramatic license, naturally).
That's reassuring. Sayuki was saying that you couldn't survive in the industry if you only do it because you like it but only if you have further ambitions, I assume those of money and fame she mentions earlier. Even if it's true it's hard to catch what light they're portraying that in just from a few spoken lines.
It also had a lot of AKB2 marketing and a reference to Urobuchi and Madoka.
Does the common route ends when MC solve this honami's shitty parent problem, or will I be able to see some events with other characters as well? Her dere side might be better but so far I definitely think that game'd be so much better without her. Other three are pretty good but since Honami has more screen time than all others combined I'm getting slightly bored. I'll bear with this and play all other three's route for sure though.
Also I think they picked wrong VA for Yuzuka, Noriko's voice goes well with the noisy type characters, it didnt fit with this shy timid character at all imo.
After that common route ends or are there some more events for the other characters? Seriously so far its something like 65% Honami, 25% Kanade and 10% for other two, I wanna see some scenes with others as well before going into a route.
I don't remember any major events for the other girls until you click on their events, although my memory is a little fuzzy on the transition between Honami's arc and the character selection
You know, I'm not sure sweaters are supposed to cling that perfectly to tiddies. Must be really tight and uncomfortable.
Nanairo Reincarnation has been enjoyable. I just hope it doesn't turn into a complete fuckfest and has some plot throughout.
Quite a lot of effort put into Iris's introduction. Really liking it.
Wow this is fucked up. I was expecting something more, subtle.
are there any eroge shops that ship internationally? Digital download like DLsite works too, but dlsite has a lot of nukige and only a few worthwhile game.
If I'd like to throw money at them do really I need to use a proxy?
>if you don't want to be bullied
I definitely do, I'm sure.
Amiami ships boxed versions to west, just make sure to log in and go into adult section before trying to look for eroge.
DLSite and DMM digital download selection is huge, "a lot of nukige and only a few worthwhile game" is pure bullshit. Everything that has digital version is sold on both or at least one of these two. You just have to keep in mind that dlsite has two different sections for doujin stuff and for professional commercial games, you need to switch from /maniax/ to /pro/ first.
Should I go for her or the library girl?
I can't make up my mind.
Online only DRM, might be possible to work, ala Diablo 3.
I remember there was an eroge that has a similar protection a few years ago. The script file was empty, the actual script was instead being streamed from the company server as you play. I think this new DRM is similar to that.
That's why I predict it to crash and burn on game launch. I don't think they planned their DRM server to handle 10000+ simultaneous users.
>the actual script was instead being streamed from the company server as you play
Great! Now when Akabei goes out of business because all their employees left and their dumb DRM schemes drove off their few remaining customers, you won't even be able to play the games you bought anymore!
I don't really trust Japanese programmers to do something with both ease of use and efficiency, so either the DRM will be useless after an exploit or the users will be so annoyed by the process of authentication that Hataraku Otona will get a bad rep and bomb.
Actually the cracking scene is doing pretty bad these days and judging from 2djgame's cracks, their cracker is not very competent. If it's really online-only then a low traffc DDoS attack on their server would make it impossible to play the game.
It bombed pretty hard, you'll see it at their next game's sales, though most likely they wont make a one. Also most likely Yuu's next game will have a pretty happy ending because of the all complaints.
I was about replay 他の女の子とHをしているオレを見て興奮する彼女 but fuck me if I remember how to solves this crap.
I'm not sure a sprained ankle warrants sad piano music and a dramatic monologue.
They always act like those things are end of the world, specially about the cold.
Heroine doesn't come to school > teacher says its cold, she cant come for 2-3 days > everyone suddenly act like its cancer.
Considering pirates are actually having trouble with it, this might actually be the best solution.
Too bad this is the Japanese eroge industry, not exactly known for technological revolutions.
Is there a VN (or a female character in a VN) where the moaning sounds during the H scenes is mostly a lot of heavy breathing?
I'm not a big fan of squeaky squealing.
Was reluctant to check konboku after previous experience with /jp/ recommendations, but its genuinely pretty good so far.
Tsundere protagonists are best.
I wanted to play Ao no Kanata no Four Rhythms as the first untranslated VN I'm doing but nothing works beyond the firewall authorization. I, of course, switched my locale to Japanese. I require some help.
What's the easiest vn you've ever read? I'm just starting and even stuff like aokana seems a little bit difficult. I'd like to learn to read reasonably fast while expanding the vocabulary with anki in the meantime
I just spent a whole weekend on Saihate no Ima.
How would you rate it among Romeo's?
I liked it but personally think that it would be much better had he edited the script and cut out a lot of the pointless rambling.
Alcot Honeycomb has some of the easiest to read texts. It's not necessary the easiest in terms of vocabulary though it must be close but it's completely driven by plain dialog. Has some of the most comfy moe games too imo.
I thought most of the game was amazing but the last part could have been better done, it's definitely a masterpiece though and the most ambitious eroge I read
The rambling itself is mostly there in term of links and tips which fit with what the game is going for, lots of it like the various amazon review stuff or the rambling about various subjects like the reason why crossbows are a great killer weapon etc... are only here to deepen the feeling that you are dealing with a bunch of random pieces but I thought it was always pretty entertaining.
The amount of information Romeo put into this game is immense and the way he actually fit it into a singular setting is pretty mindblowing.
Overall I'd say I liked Cross Channel a bit more simply because it had a stronger final but both games are among my favorite
Scaji retweeted some article about David Bowie's death and it really made me think. I can definitely see the influence Bowie may have had in not only him, but other eroge writers like Romeo and Setoguchi. It's weird.
Played tons of vns after that, but still this scene is the best for me. Most likely because it was my first real vn tho. I'm waiting the remake just for this scene, and see if that'll make the same effect again.
Has an H-scene ever made you mad?
What a cock-tease! The whole story they make her out like she's going to have a tremendous H-scene with the protagonist and all I get is penis inspection day?!
Speaking of h-scenes, I think every heroines in moeges should have an anal scene. They'll make at least 5-6 h-scenes anyway, instead of doing same thing with different angles they should put one anal for the people who likes it.
>Has an H-scene ever made you mad?
Hitori no Qualia. There's a two-part "H-scene" that only amounts to foreplay and gets interrupted midway, with no other H-scenes in the entire game. On top of that during the scene they just casually reveal that
Karin has previous sexual experiences and been in relationships with other girls.
Yeah, me too. I know 十人十色 always applies to fetishes, but I can't understand how pissing is so popular. To me it's almost on the same level as scat.
Not a fan of piss either. It's not really disgusting to me, but more annoying and inconvenient than anything. I hate that it's so prevalent in loli nukige as well. If 2D girls don't shit, they shouldn't have to piss either.
>I can't be the only one with an insta-boner kill with that, right?
I was going to reply to >>14607131 with "every time someone starts pissing during/after" but stopped myself. It disgusts me more than makes me mad. I hate piss and foot scenes in general.
Whoa, I didn't even remember that detail, maybe I am still to become a yuri connoisseur and simply didn't bother since it wasn't a man at least, only thought about how a sequel with that Karin's backstory would be interesting. But I can definitively agree how anything in that game could be barely called a H-scene. It really fits J-ment if anything though.
She has a threesome scene with Alice though, I don't remember if it's in her append or not. She has another one with
her husbandbut fuck that, it doesn't exist.
What got me angrier was Emi's H-scene where Tooru only touches her and that's about it. Why? Molesting your daughter is okay but actual sex isn't? And incestual sex with your loli imouto is A-OK? I was disappointed to say the least.
So I finish the Past part of Sumi's route and
I think this must be the longest I've waited for an opening to play, having finished both Alice and Sumi's routes. Is it saying they are just a setup for the Natsuha route?
Well, Natsuha will have to wait until after Sumi's after route.
Also more games should have
loli anal masturbation. Her thinking about Hishakakuwas a little offputting, unfortunately.
Has anyone read 姫様LOVEライフ here? If so, I'd like to hear some thoughts about it. Seems like it has a great VA cast, but for some reason it got only 60 at egs. Also the only review which dont have spoiler warning is just "面白くなかった。" so I'm not really sure whats wrong the game.
Other problems I can think of
the 3 princess and MC share the same father iirc but then there is 0 talk on incest
2. The routes go all over the places, more like the writer just write whatever that came up to his mind.
3. The last route
is a harem route but strangely it felt extremely uncomfortable and rushed
Maybe it's better to view this game as a nukige
It is one of those games that takes itself too seriously despite the only selling point being loli. The art isn't that great either. If you are really that desperate to fap to loli just download the save data.
I see, its a shame since I kinda liked the art and they actually spend money for those VAs. I guess even if you have a good art & great VAs you cant do anything without a proper writer.
But seems like its not "unplayable" level at least, I might still try the common route after I finish amakano 2.
Because children just don't have the mental development of an adult, so their characters are usually simple and not interesting. The characters can't be developed or again they won't be a loli. These restrictions don't allow the story or characters to be anything more than just fapbait.
Which is exactly why it's odd to complain about a game taking itself seriously. You say nobody tries to write serious loli characters and then write off attempts to do so as taking itself too seriously. That's entirely self contradictory.
In that case, it's a generalization. Which is why a lolige taking itself seriously would be a good thing, to sorta disprove that.
And I mean hell, Sumi's chronologically and mentally older than Tooru.
Is it possible to force older games into the right aspect ratio? I'd rather not play 640x480 games in a tiny window.
Is the game stretching itself, or is it changing the screen resolution?
If it's doing the latter, then it might be a tweakable setting in your graphic driver control panel. See pic.
You're free to prove me wrong. Children don't make good romantic partners because their minds aren't developed, which also happens to make them boring one dimensional characters.
Thanks heaps to the guy who recommended 君の名残は静かに揺れて, it really was fantastic. I've never played a VN that stayed so consistently amazing and powerful from start to finish before. The music, the sex scenes, the art, the story, every part of it just felt so polished and quality the entire time.
Finally cleared last routes of 機関幕末異聞 ラストキャバリエ. I had pretty high expectations for this VN after trial and Alicematic, and mostly satisfied with how it turned out.
First of all, I have to note that people seem to misunderstand what kind of game it is, assuming very wrong things from synopsis and few comments from those who played it.
- Trap protagonist. This aspect is actually irrelevant and plays no role whatsoever. They make few jokes about in the very beginning and then almost completely forget about it. There's civil war going on, nobody gives a fuck about some random samurai's dressing habits.
- Edginess. Some routes are tragic, some not. One can do Ryoma and Shuri only if afraid of "edgy" stuff.
- This is historical drama, not "charage" or some comedy in historical setting. It strives to depict things realistically, and to explain why things turned out this way, spending most of screentime on politics, intrigues and battles.
Although Takaya went out of his way to explain everything going on, this VN requires familiarity with bakumatsu peroid to some extent, and some people were overwhelmed by amount of historical persons taking part in events or being mentioned. Cavalier is even dubbed as "bakumatsu history textbook" because of it, but there's much more than that in the game. I strongly advice doing true history routes -> Sakamoto route -> Shuri routes, and to use wikipedia extensively while reading true history route, to familiarize oneself with key persons and political landscape.
Some more thoughts on routes (no major spoilers, but YMMV):
True history (Kou, Hijikata, Kondou): everything happens exactly as it did in real world (except gender change, of course). Differences between 3 routes are very minor. IMHO, weakest part of game, but it works well if you think of it as introduction to historical period. Also most tragical one, with lots of deaths.
Sakamoto Ryoma route: Takaya's take on what would happen if Sakamoto woulnd't be assasinated in the most critical time. This one is very solid, and actually feels like proper VN route, with romantic buildup and some personal adventures of protag and route's two heroines.
Shuri routes (Shuri+Tokio or Sano+Kazuha, both are exactly same, just different h-scenes and epilogues): best part of game if you read it last. Takaya did some very cool shit with stuff you learn from previous routes, which I shouldn't spoil further.
Overall, almost all aspects of the title, like characters, comedy scenes, battle scenes, plot scenes and so on are executed flawlessly. Why can't all these "supposed to be funny" romcom titles learn from it?
My only complaint (and, sadly, pretty big one) is that game tries to bite off way more than it can handle. Plot spans 6 years from 1863 to 1869, with 3 wars and tons of major incidents, and as result its full of time skips and omissions and there's not much time left for main cast, although its used very efficiently. This is alleviated to some extent in Ryoma and Shuri routes, but they are shorter than true history.
There's also issue with protagonist's partial voicing, and how it goes on and off at random, but its very clear that there were financial or other producing-related problems with it and I'm content with current state, there's already higher percentage of voiced lines than in average eroge.
Either way, I have to note that such project is crazy for current eroge market and only someone like Takaya could pull it off at all, especially Shuri route. For any less talented writer it would fall apart like ChuSinGura's later chapters and FD.
Definitely going to read his next work, whatever it will be.
Gave it 90点 out of 100, with some extra points for Shuri route.
Bit late to the party but I'm really stunned that Gun Knight Girl and Nanairo Reincarnation are written by the same dude, and only a year and a half apart too.
Gun Knight Girl really embodies the main thing I don't like about VNs, which is long-winded, pointless narration and meandering, dull plots intermingled with mediocre - sometimes great - SOL. No matter how funny the writing is or how nice the characters are, the simple fact that the plot goes nowhere for extended periods of time ruins it. In short, bad pacing. Why just now I was holding CTRL to skip through a sex scene and it genuinely took a full minute to skip through a fingering bit... a full minute! At lightning speed! I can only imagine how dull it would have been to read.
On the other hand, Nanairo Reincarnation manages to embody everything I *do* like about VNs. Very tight, well paced writing, interesting story, protagonist that matters, cute girls, great H-scenes... when people make those troll statements, "why not just read a book", Nanairo Reincarnation is what comes to mind, the way lewd intermingles with the story is really well done and a novelization of Nanairo would be quite drab I imagine. But really, pacing is the main thing - something is always happening, something new is progressing the mystery, and most importantly it's *interesting* all the time. Unlike Gun Knight Girl where I was sorely tempted to CTRL through the plot because I knew it didn't matter at all because the character had been fully explored 15 hours of awful plot ago. Well, I'm just speaking of one route that I just finished, if the true route has better pacing I will be sure to say so.
In short, Kazuki Fumi did a really good job with pacing Nanairo Reincarnation and he did a really piss-poor job with pacing Gun Knight Girl to the point I'm surprised he wrote both novels. I am even encouraged to think Gun Knight Girl being a full length "charage" or what have you led to the company encouraging him to pad the absolute shit out of it, I wouldn't be surprised, especially considering that Nanairo being a half-nukige wouldn't have had such a need for SOL padding I imagine. Anyway, that's all unsubstantiated so never mind it.
They're from different companies. I doubt that it's the scenario writers who are pushing for all of these eroge that are so much longer than they should be. It's more likely the producers and the companies who are responding to consumer demands in a market where quantity really is more important than quality.
I don't think your unsubstantiated claims are so unlikely. While I'm not intimately familiar with the development process of eroge I think it's safe to say that it's generally not an auteur medium.
My only complain with this would be the romance aspect of the game, really.
Like except Shuri routes and the Iori part of Ryouma route, the romance came very sudden and honestly kind of jarring with the atmosphere sometimes.
Also, why the hell do they use the suspense and creepy theme for H-scene ? It practically kill my boner whenever that theme music shows up.
>Also, why the hell do they use the suspense and creepy theme for H-scene ? It practically kill my boner whenever that theme music shows up.
Yeah, I wondered about this too. Especially in last scene of Ryoma route, on the ship. Who the fuck decided to use that BGM there.
I might be wrong, but in the beginning they would still be calling you by your family name, so there wouldn't be a lovely call until you go down the character routes and start getting intimate enough to call each other by your first names. It's been a while since I played though, I don't really remember clearly.
>We're gonna have to write off a lot of games if we follow your logic.
That was actually my point, yes. In fact, people write off the entire eroge medium for the same shallow reasons and I think silly to use those same arguments as a reason to not play x or y.
They won't until you start dating. They'll call you by the default family name unless you change it, which will fill the space with awkward silence for some stupid reason. That's why you should just leave the family name the same.
Well I was thinking more like insert songs like m.o.v.e's raimei but I'll give them a go. and no I don't care of shit it is
I just want action and cheesy insert songs.
Why do they still give this artist work?
Had recently finished the trial for 働く大人の恋愛事情 and have to say that the adult theme made it refreshing to read through. The encounters that you have with the side characters were pretty fun but I hope they dont go too overboard with the sex scenes and give more time to develop the main heroines.
課長 best girl
>same shallow reasons
Having porn for the sake of porn, story structure divided by "which girl will I romance next" and the universal tropes like every getting hot for the protagonist to boost the reader's fragile ego are a pretty good reason to avoid VNs in general.
Which is why many writers stay anonymous / invent fake names, so that they can move onto green pastures (probably what happened to Narahara Ittetsu).
>Which is why many writers stay anonymous / invent fake names, so that they can move onto green pastures (probably what happened to Narahara Ittetsu).
Is it possible to dissociate yourself from your previous identity in the artistic field like that?
Yes, that's precisely what I'm talking about.
People throw away the medium for those reasons, but here we all are playing eroge regardless, arguing about what's well written and isn't, because more or less we've found some kind of value in eroge and/or eroge writing that's keeps us playing it. That's why it's ironic if we do the exact same kind of generalization; we're just as bad as those people who discounted the entire medium to begin with by doing the exact same thing with certain categories of games. You would think by this point, people would realize the irony in doing so.
>You would think by this point, people would realize the irony in doing so.
"By this point" where I'm feeling relieved for someone finally saying the obvious amidst the scale of obnoxiousness this thread has reached, no, I'm sorry, I guess they never will.
Can I save only at certain points? Because I can't find the save option for the hell of it.
Barfing around Akiba today
>that cool looking nitroplus game only gets this small poster
So I just finished the trial of this. Sasuga Ryuukishi07. Iam looking forward to release at the end of this month.
So I went through this, Chuusotsu
Arue sure is a good protagonist, I liked it a lot
Does anyone know when it is getting released?
It's one of the thing I'm the most hyped for this year, I should look at everything else that brand did
This is awesome so far, martial arts short stack best girl.
I liked it more than the first.
Protagonist is much more fun and in general the game does a better job at including the "mystery" part of the story.
New girl is good and a really nice addition to the cast.
Overall if you liked the first you will definitely enjoy this too.
I'm no yuri expert but I enjoy the marimite atmosphere a lot.
I like the concept of magic books in Kami no Ue no Mahoutsukai but I don't really like how after the first book the scenario keeps getting subverted by various elements such that it's not straightforward at all. It's kind of just making me want to read an actual book. Good VN overall though. The writing is interesting and the art is nice.
By the way, I'm not too familiar with the developer of this game or anything, but it seems both the artist and the scenarist are doujin devs? This is the artist's only game but he seems to be a big pixiv guy, and the scenarist mainly works as part of the Utage doujin group. Likewise, the BGM is credited to Meto, and he's amateur too, but many of the tracks in the game are really good. If so then it's impressive that amateurs made something like this? But it was released under the Uguisu Kagura group instead of Utage so I don't know how doujin it is.
The writer did doujin before and his first commercial title was 運命予報をお知らせします
Personally I thought it was a bit better than Kamimahou, I mean I liked the concept of Kamimahou a lot but the execution especially in the second half could have been a lot better
Unmei yohou just felt more solidly done and written even if it seems a lot more generic at first glance
How many stories are there in Kamimahou? I'm on アメシストの怪奇伝承, the
ghost storyone. The game is listed on VNDB as 30-50 hours so I imagine there's a helluva lot of story left since it doesn't feel like I've been reading that long. If the second half is weaker then I feel pretty trepidation because what I'm currently on is good but I feel the momentum dying down. The high point of the game so far for me was the first magic book, which is why the constant subversion is fairly disappointing.
Why even bother reading the VN at all if you're just going to skip through it? Sex scenes are an essential part of the development of the characters and their relationships in many VNs. This is heresy.
AliceSoft now officially into mobage market. TADA wasn't joking in that blog post, huh.
There's also koihime mobage opened few months ago, seems like eroge market is going to change radically in new few years. Gotta roll gacha for heroine route and pray its the one you want.
That page was only up for a few hours and then removed.
>koihime mobage opened few months ago
It's been there since 2013, it's just a new version that started a few months ago.
>seems like eroge market is going to change radically in new few years
Mobage based on eroge are nothing new, most of them failed and everyone forgot about them. Does anyone remember the Grisaia or Tsujidou one? They didn't last a year.
Only remotely successful ones seems to be Koihime and Taimanin.
Koihime is actually 3-4 years old at least, its nothing new.
I just got to the title drop and I'm not impressed at all so far. It feels like a cheap B movie. There's the generic MC and his relative spouting generic dialogue, then some weird shit that's supposed to spook you but doesn't because it reads like something that came out straight out of a generic horror movie. And needless to say the writing is bland. Usually R07 prose and phrasing falls short, but he makes up for it with interesting concepts and his method of storytelling. I hope it gets better because right now it doesn't seem like something he came up with at all.
I pasted ちょっとおまけ劇場 on clubbox.co.kr. Their search engine is retarded sometimes (especially with some kanji) so if you can't find something, try different keywords or search by release date or brand name.
Thanks. I found them. As dumb as it sounds though, which button is the download button? I don't know any korean and I don't want to download their "app" or anything like that by accident.
There are four buttons above where all the downloads are listed. Is it one of those?
The problem is that you need their app to download and last time I remember you needed to do it under IE. You also had to make an account but I don't think it's required anymore. There's no other way. I suggest doing everything under a VM. After you click on a file there's a popup window, the download button is the blue one on the left.
Damn, I just tried downloading the files myself and they all get denied. Sorry for making you go though this trouble. Been a while since I used this thing. I have all those on my hard drive but my upload is very slow, I'll try to deliver this week.
No man, It's no trouble.
I actually managed to find and download it from Nyaa, even though it had 0 seeds.
Still, you went through a lot of trouble just to help me. So, truly, thank you.
Okay, I remembered why it doesn't work.
You need both your locale and regional settings (first tab in Region and Language) set to korean and the files will go through fine.
In case someone wants to try running this piece of shit, you need to download and install:
zmlauncher is going to update clubbox app or some shit, it might fail sometimes so try until it succeeds. I think that app installs some activex browser addons and places its excecutable in the windows folder that's why I don't trust it.
I'm just going to upload the discs still.
Guess I fucked up somehow. That's what I get for not playing games with retard proof choices.
Has anyone here played the Love Plus series?
How do the New Love Plus + games for the 3DS compare to the ones for the DS?
Are the DS versions playable on the 3DS without the region lock bypass hack?
Is there any eroge where there is sex but there is no love? Like they just have sex out of boredom or something unrelated to love? I really dislike the intimate relationship stuff and I have no idea what tag to search for.
>That page was only up for a few hours and then removed.
Its up again and it let me pre-register for it.
In Semiramis no Tenbin,
there's no real romance between the MC and the main heroine until late in her route. For most of the game, she just lets him fuck her in return for letting her stay at his place.
I'm playing amagami and trying to complete the secret characters route. I've gotten to her final (and only) conversation, were I manage to fill out of her bar. Yet I still only get bad ends no matter what.
Anyone here that has played it and can give me a hand?
Game is more complicated than I've thought. Even walkthroughs don't help me much. Just to be sure, I need to raise the affection points to a certain level to trigger certain events on specific days, right? And when that day is over, I'm basically fucked?