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this may seem like utter crap advice but your stuff is pretty awesome but may be too detailed / over rendered for the audience you are aiming for. People nowadays like concepts more than extreme detail.
Hence why shadman still makes bank. He can pump out sexy scenario after scenario because he doesn't sweat the small stuff.
Just don't want you overworking.
Loved Dmitry's stuff before he became obsessed with details.
That's your own opinion, senpai. If that was an universal truth Takaranovich, InCase, Idlecil and other such artists wouldn't be close as succesful as they are.
So I REALLY want to get better.
But right this moment, I'm not sure where to start.
I'd appreciate it if someone cared enough to give me some solid criticism on what my (consistent) weak points are, and how to address fixing them (hell, even just knowing what they are is helpful).
Though for those of you who have neither the time nor the fucks to glance through my slog of shit, here's a pretty standard example of my work. Feel free to crit away. Everythings appreciated.
(for those who have time or fucks left over to help me understand where I'm consistently fucking up, 1, Thank you and 2. you can find my shit posted here: http://temixart.tumblr.com/page/3 )
Before you draw appealing porn, you should learn how to draw properly. Mainly you lack understanding of how perspective works, which is essential if you want to draw proper anatomy.
What the heck is going on with InCase lately? He used to be one of my fave porn artists, but lately he's been drawing gigantic heads and hands and just.... generally bad proportions and wonky faces! What happened?!
WHel, i just try to do the cool stuff, you know. I can just make the flat colors and and stay that, but that is not cool.
And whay does peopel compere me with dmitrys?
>furaffinity split into two seperate communities.
Are you talking about people migrating to other places after the latest drama? FA is still the biggest and best place to get commissions, how ever it doesn't hurt to also have a Tumblr account, there's a growing market there.
the more i draw this the more generic it becomes
it isnt ready but I want you to spot mistakes for now, k ?
>redpill me crit/ic/s
On a side note, I can't for the life of me decide what character this should be. Any ideas?
Doesn't seem like critique happens a lot in the TG thread, so I thought I'd post here.
Fuck my ass. Don't even mention that foot.
I put a dragon penis in this to honor your legacy.
Great gesture and line confidence, but pretty poor anatomy (you still can't draw decent hands) and perspective (symbols on her face mismatching and general body shapes placed so that you can't define a horizon line).
Great pointers. All true and taken care of. Thanks anon.
You have some strong fundamentals, with little perspective inconsistency here and there, but anatomy above the norm nonetheless. What your art lacks the most is facial expressiveness imo.
I really like this one. Just the pose and pov are already very appealing. Same goes for the linework, but that's something that is present in all your work imo. There are some perspective errors though. Her left foot and calf are too small; her torso is a tad too long; her right forearm is too short, which led you to position the hand awkwardly into perspective (there should be more of the palm showing); the face is a bit too concave (I have the same problems with these 3/4 views from below) because of the wrong perspective of the mouth. Another nitpick would be the shoulders area being too stiff resulting in a less natural looking pose. I can make a quick redline if you want.
I suggest you try pushing the perspective in terms of pov a lot more. This way you can make your artwork more dynamic and lively (your confident gesture makes half the work here already). Remember that porn isn't concept art. You have to make your characters more intimate with the viewer by bringing them closer to the camera and maybe trying to tell a story in the process. Very expressive faces are a good alternative if your setting isn't that eloquent, and with good expressions you can tell a lot about the relationship between the characters.
From what I see here I think you already have pretty good fundamentals even though there are some mistakes (badly defined center of mass and some sloppy anatomy/perspective in the hands department). Apply all I wrote above to your artwork and you'll be making great porn in no time.
Hope this helps.
The left portion with the smile in perspective is just a general addition because a lot of people struggle with this. I think it doesn't apply to your example, since the lips are pushed upwards by her finger (if I'm correct).
Try not to get distracted by the different proportions and distances, I simply wanted to show you what I meant with your face being too concave, so I pushed my example. I wasn't trying to emulate your style.
I arched her back a bit more to make the pose more dynamic and pushed her shoulders backwards, because it is more natural with such an arch. In the process I rotated her head, but that is optional.
Perspective wise and pose wise my version is less stiff and more correct.
I didn't change only the arm angle. There are 3 major alterations (left foot, right arm and palm, face). The appeal of the face has nothing to do with the purpose of this redline, but I respect your opinion of course.
I'm sorry to say that while your correction to the legs and arms was quite good, that face correction is horribly unappealing to look at compared to the original. The impression of the character was lost entirely, and lets be honest...it just resembles the same-face that most of your own art has...which at times can be quite hard to ignore.
- It looks almost completely flat, and has too much volume in the lower half of the face.
- The mouth you suggested looks like it would be a rabbit character with buck teeth.
- The left eye straight up looks like it would be melting off of the face.
- The ear is now HUGE, way too big.
- That first line-over you did on the original mouth looks great, why didn't you just go with that? The one with a tick next to it is horrid, there is no need for that much teeth to be showing.
- Your redline has changed the face expression completely, especially the eyebrows.
It now looks more like a squinting kind of gaze as though they're in discomfort, rather than the originally simple and devious and gaze.
- You seem to have missed the perspective that the original was attempting to achieve. You've succeeded in drawing perspective lines on one plane, but the original picture clearly gives the implication of two planes of perspective, especially in the angle of the head. This is what makes the original head look so good.
This is most prominent in the jaw bone. Look at the flow of the lines in the original jaw bone, and how it flows up to the ear and into the hair. That's far more enjoyable to look at than the jaw in the redline.
The original looked as though it had a nice pinch of perspective in the mix, bit the new one just looks like a basic stylized face slapped onto the head frame of Loomis.
As for the hand, it's gone from an impression of the finger bending slightly up against the face to just looking like some bumpy stick resting on the top of the lip. The lowered elbow was good though.
>>Perspective wise and pose wise my version is less stiff and more correct
In some areas this is true. In other areas it seems more like you've actually introduced more stiffness to the picture, and have also missed the perspective the original was trying to achieve.
A simple redline of just the main body corrections and a slightly less concave outline of the head would've sufficed.
I mean this in the kindest way possible, I just don't think your redline of the entire thing was actually necessary. It provided some useful insight for the few areas that were indeed wrong, but with it so thickly applied over the entire thing it really is hard to look at for comparison.
Read this ->>>2341798
>the new one just looks like a basic stylized face slapped onto the head frame of Loomis.
That's exactly what I was going for.
Same as above.
I wasn't aiming to make the work instead of him. Just wanted to show him which parts of the head should be positioned more outward to make the face less concave.
>You have some strong fundamentals, with little perspective inconsistency here and there, but anatomy above the norm nonetheless. What your art lacks the most is facial expressiveness imo.
heh, thenx, but i can fuck'up anything i think
been really busting ass working on my anatomy lately but im struggling. Everything i draw in my free time now i'm just too burnt out on to go through the steps of measuring proportions and perspective so my stuff always comes out kind of sloppy.
anyway i'd appreciate a redline
Another anon here.
No, it's not weird at all. The actual style of the art looks more comical than erotic.
They're judging it by visuals, not theme.
It looks comical. We know it's meant to be themed as erotic, but the simplified shapes and poses looks comical.
Nothing weird about seeing it as funny.
This is some neat stuff. Maybe a bit too carefree with the gesture/stylization at some points, but definitely not a deal breaker. Props.
To me it looks more cute than comical.
Also, have this sketch going on. I guess the torsos are a tad too short (especially on the right character). Can you guys spot any other fuckups?
>if you have a weird sense of humor, then yes. that's my point.
Yeah, no. The art style just isn't hot at all and that's what's giving it the comedic effect it has. If you think that looks hot I question your standards.
Does anyone else know any good tips for making good porn? Obviously art fundamentals are one, but i think drawing well and drawing good porn isn't 100% related, does anyone on here think they picked up on some ideas on why certain pieces are more sexually arousing than others.
Fixed some perspective and added the tails. Anything else I should take care of before inking?
More of an ambiguous lewd than porn, but I decided to free-hand the background and stencil in the foreground with objects and abstracts floating around. I'm trying to make this abstract with various fluorescent colors seen on the table.
Spraypaint is fun and unforgiving at the same time.
Oh, sorry maybe to late but
It's not SAI, it's manga studio, i don't like standard round brush in SAI.
I doesn't know shit about coloring or shading, it's just happy acciden i think, ok maybe some basic rules: hard and soft shadows, make dark areas more saturated.
I don't want to be an artist anymore
His hobbit comic bled into his normal humans' proportions. And the futa cancer will ruin you anyway. It's fun once a while but if all you do is futa eventually you forget what made women feminine and erotic in the first place.
I agree with the first part of what you said. The other part about futas ruining the femininity of "common" female characters however is a bit of a stretch, at least to me imo. I think the main point of futas is managing to keep the characters feminine even though you give them male anatomy and characteristics. If anything futa is a good practice in femininity, not something that makes you bad at drawing female characteristics.
Im the one who gave the clit slap a 10/10 and thats pretty spot on what you said at least for me.
Also its only guaranteed hot to someone who has a thing for minituarization. Its well drawn, but it still does not strike me as something that is not trying to be at least a bit funny.
Only recently stared drawing becuase I wanted to do my own porn
Unfinished version becuase I still need to learn shading and I need to redraw his shitty right arm
I'm glad you took it the right way. Everybody has been there and everyone is going their own speed. A tip might be to look up reference of the pose you want to re-create and use it as the base. for the rest of your work, because as it stands I'm not sure you can save what your at right now.
best of luck
Okay anons, need some honest critique. I know my linework sucks bad(trying my best to get better though).
What about the rest? I suppose the skin still needs some work too.
Drool doesn't drip down along a straight path, it will conform to the shape of the face and go along the sides of ridges like the chin.
Also, drool won't drip off the chin in most cases because it rolls down the neck, and if it does drip it makes one bigger drop instead of many little ones that are close together like on the tongue.
Boys with bolted on tits aren't feminine anon.
And there's no such a thing as a feminine penis.
Futa is for people who want to have their cake and eat it too but the more you delve on it the more cartoony and androginous your shit looks, you truly do forget what makes characters feminine or manly, because you threat too much on amalgamating both.
So what is the best place to find porn commissions? Is there a general FAQ for this sort of thing?
Pic related is a nude piece I painted a long time ago, but I think it'd be fun to do some freaky shit for cash.
I really need at least 20 bucks right now, somebody wants to give commissions? Pic related is my current skill.
You should stop assuming that other people have the same problems with futa or drawing in general as you do.
Keeping a female body feminine while drawing futa for me is simply good practice.
far shots are for establishing
mid shots are for larger interaction between characters/what have you
close shots are for detailed and/or small actions
with close shots, clever, well composed use of (relatively) extreme perspective can let you have your cake and eat it too (read: genitals and face of the same character in the same frame/pinup/whatever). you might want this because most people tend to like cause and effect in porn. they like seeing the genital(s) do(ing) something(s) and then the face(s) reacting. you could do this in two panels as well, or you could just ram a cock down someone's throat in every piece, whatever stiffs your dick or slicks your clit, the important thing to do is actually think about what you find appealing about the thing you like and then finding the best way to translate that idea into a visual the fully conveys the things that you find attractive to other like minded individuals.
It's possible to do something like this without Drawtablet?
Can you point out them for me? (i'm really Dumbtard)
It's really hard to achieve something like that with a mouse. I think it's doable, but you'll need tons of practice. I suggest you buy a drawing tablet instead. You can get cheap but good wacom alternatives for 50 bucks if money is an issue.
hey guys! what do you think and got any tips or advice?
stop being retarded
stop spammig the porn thread with this
stop being 12, because there is no fucking way a grown up adult with a computer and any kind of income couldnt afford 60 USD huion
Thinking about a new porn drawing I got this idea, should I make it?
If anything I think the torso's a lil' short.
Not really a fan-a the details either, incidentally; might wanna look at another artist's work to see if you can figure a more tasteful approach.
S'alright by-and-by. Might be nice to see your work in a few months if you're practicing.
Wowee you're so insightful. teach me senas pie and makk me master artist
isn't porn art limiting since most positions only look good at certain angles and most pictures have used those angles before.
Meaning porn art is usually doing the same thing with different characters.
How to make it interesting?
isnt sport pictures limiting since most positions only look good at certain angles and most pictures have used those angles before.
Meaning sport art is usually doing the same thing with different characters.
How to make it interesting?
Why aren't you starting your Patreon?
At first I was, oh, a 3d modeler, whatever.
Then I checked his Patreon and thought, oh, he actually draws 2d, neat.
Then I've seen he does DAZ studio tutorials and I was, oh, a 3D modeler that wants us to believe he can draw. So, yeah, whatever.
>"level of art"
Pandering to people and their fandoms/fetishes gets you an audience faster than actually being good at your craft. That's a fact. So it really is more a question of exposure, since your level doesn't need to be that high to make money off your work.
How do you get exposure? I mean I'm not that great but more than occasionally I see people who can be considered bad, but have some small amount of followers when I have virtually none.
be care full of your lines and composition this is how it reads,
>how do you get exposure
Pander to fandoms and/or fetishes. You don't have to be a great artist to sell because you can always just pander to people who obsess over cartoons and fetishes and the internet is littered with people like that. It's a lot easier if you have mainstream tastes or like following trends since the numbers you'd rack in will be greater.
Okay, I've done some progress on that picture I've been working on.
Cleaned up some shit too. Better?
I know it's still lot of work to do(like the collar thingy), but I enjoy critique, because it gives me the opportunity to grow.
If you pander to many fetishes in the long run you lose fans who don't like fetishes other than their own. If you are a good artist you can actually rely on how good your art is instead of HAVING to go out of your way to ponder to fetishes.
You should stop trying to polish this thing. Your fundamentals are the ones that should be polished anon. Stop spending so much time on a single pic and instead do multiple studies with references and lots of gesture training.
Usually I do stop early if I see something isn't that good.
But this time I wanted to finish it.
I don't think it's bad to try to finish something instead of going 'fuck it' and starting over again every single time.
This reads really bad, anon... Is the guy just hovering above her? Is he standing on chairs? Is he an alien with super-long legs? And the other anon is right, looking at the thumb, you just get the impression that he's some weird critter standing/gripping her shoulders with his hand-feet! Leg muscles are incorrect too. The girl is pretty alright, but the weird dude just ruins everything, I'd just remove him completely.
Don'the listen to him anon one of the best ways to identify on which fundamentals you're weakest on is to finish a piece so you can identify what you improve on, the more you do this the better, I think what oscar the grouch is should start is finish this but go work on fundamentals after because you are not going to be satisfied evenot after you make all the improvements on this piece at this stage you your skils, my primary suggestion onot this piece is relocate the eyes, you should have seen this already though, and that mouth needs some work
Yeah, he was suposed to be standing on something behind her. Haven't touched the dude ever since I started, I guess that was a mistake.
> I'd just remove him completely.
Maybe I'll do just that.
From what I've also noticed at looking at it, the left eye should go slightly to the right and up. Mouth with nose also slightly up maybe?
>If you are a good artist you can actually rely on how good your art is instead of HAVING to go out of your way to ponder to fetishes.
We are talking about pornfags. Quality does not trump fandom or fetish to consumers. The internet is loaded with unimpressive/mediocre artists with loads of followers because they pander to particular fandoms and fetishes. The quality just doesn't have to be absolute bottom of the barrel beginner level. High end beginner to low end intermediate levels is enough to get you a pretty big following among pornfags when you pander and that's what most internet smut artists do.
Some thoughts, take em with a grain of salt
1. Try making dude's legs stand straighter on the ground so he doesn't look like he has long ass legs
2. The shaft of the dude's penis is too high on his crotch imo, it's hard to see how his pelvis is tilted, i don't know if this is because his muscle insertions are strange or not, doesn't mean you have to redraw the cock, try just moving the rest of him around
3. See if making the dude's color more muted could make him not pop so damn much
Also as anon said, her eyes are wonky
Draw porn that isn't related to your interests. If you like drawing farts, drawing them will make you want to fap.
I will say if I'm fap then try to draw, I very quickly lose interest so don't do that.
Working on this, first time painting with SAI, thoughts?
he has a model but the camera doesnt show her taking that pose, so idk if he actually got her to do that
>tfw you'll have to study anatomy for hours before you can draw fun lewds
i think that you have a few anatomical problems with this pic. i think that her ass needs more fat and roundness to them. that foot is wak. im really not sure what you were trying to do with the breasts. and i think you need to be much more definitive with where the arms are/where theyre going.
otherwise i like the details of the genitals. and i like her face/head enough.
as far as the colors go, i think that you need to start over. the palate is maybe workable, but your technique is wak. i have no idea what kind of lighting youre goin for.
That hes not gay, but he just likes the look of a fat cock? what? is there something wrong with that? does that make you uncomfortable? there's nothing gay with liking throbbing thick cock bro. Maybe your gay bro. is that it? do you like thick juicy throbbing cock too bro? get out of here you fucking faggot. Only real men like thick cock
learning how to render.. and how to handle line art
barefoot waifu is get
looks hot, I have a thing for short haired girls. especially one in particular
The torso looks good, the face is a standard beginner collage of anime symbols with no depth, and the extremities are hard to look at (entirely, not just the hands and feet). All in all the main problem is the flatness, since you can't construct in a 3d space.
I know it sounds repetitive n all, but you should really go back to your fundamentals and do studies. A lot of them.
I think what makes a character feminine aren't big asses and tits.
I posted 2 futa pics in this thread already.
Yeah, I know, big tits n shit, but those are clients wishes.
I would really love to hear your opinion about these characters. Do they seem feminine enough, or did I fail miserably?
Your old school inking and coloring style is really awesome. Dat nostalgia!
Just practice some anatomy and you are golden, dear sir!
I was practicing anatomy with this one, but i got creeped out and moved on.
I'm fairly new to drawing humans, as well as doing things digitally. Critique is greatly appreciated
You really really have to fix the tied up girl's left leg. It's like all kinds of fucked up. You have her legs spread relatively far apart, but the penis demon's leg is wrapping around it like its closer to the body (not spread apart). It looks like the left leg isn't even connected, and is making kind of a grotesque broken leg/ wiggly noodle shape. From that angle we'd see something closer to a side view than a frontal, unless penis demon broke her leg and made her bones jello. Which would be neat, but, probably not what you're going for. It is also confusing how the demon's leg is even wrapping around the other girl's leg since there is no way seen that it would be feasibly possible to wrap her leg like that, given the positions they're both in. She'd have to have a long broken leg too. Or be capable of doing like a split in the air to the side like that and then the ability to turn her leg inward without breaking that 90 degree angle between her pelvis and her leg. Or perhaps I'm just reading the positions wrong. That general area is a confusing problem.
Other than that, the restrained girl has decent body proportions and a cute face, but your penis demon is a bit stiff pose wise, to the point that she looks disconnected from the scene and clutches a very hard looking boob. I also agree with the other comment about the penis demon's rope holding hand. Is it super thin, or is it obscured by something? If it is....what on earth is it obscured by? because whatever it is is also obscuring a connection of back-to-butt for tied girl. It doesn't make sense to be the penis demon's leg either. Did you plan on drawing an ass toy and then decide not too? Though its a bit high for an asshole to be there either.
Hope this wasn't too confusing. If it is I may try to redline. Honestly, I think your art has big potential to be absolutely amazing, you just have to get past a few of your constant roadblocks.
The porn community disgusts me, specially on my fetish
What people, groups or paysites should I avoid?
How do I politely tell people to knick it off I don't want to socialize?
This is literally my first time drawing porn (I know it's shit, open to critique) but where should I go with it? What kind of face/ hair ect.?
did this with mouse, but your feet looks like they're
made with clay.
Thanks. Great comment, and very appreciated. I will move the intertwined leg of the girl in the back higher so it isn't so stretched out. I was aware I was breaking anatomy, but I was sure the lewdness was worth it. I guess I was wrong. The forearm is obscured by the tail of the front girl, which is wrapping around the back girl's waist/belly.
Anyway, will try to fix all that you mentioned. It's hard to come up with interesting and new poses and povs, when you work from memory. I'm sure I still have some room for improvement on errors like these.
You're not doxy.
He has a dedicated following, you as a noob, are applying for an unengaged audience.
Eventually that audience becomes a following and despite turning in smaller numbers becomes more relevant in quality. That's why kids with 100 watchers in dA sell comissions but dorks with 100k notes on tumblr don't see a dime.
You know the drill. Anything I should feel bad about regarding anatomy and perspective?
Thanks guys. Will take care of that stuff.
Here's another one. I know the guy's pelvis is probably too low, but I really didn't want to cover the vag with the dick. Any suggestions how to handle that?