/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

sure is summer
sure is summer
sure is summer

https://www.quora.com/Does-anyone-use-the-right-shift-key-when-typing

https://www.quora.com/Does-anyone-use-the-right-shift-key-when-typing

https://www.quora.com/Does-anyone-use-the-right-shift-key-when-typing

sure is summer
sure is summer
sure is summer

>>60977283
>/mkg/ - If You Own A Mechanical Keyboard It's About Time You Learn PROPER Touch Typing Edition
ITT: passive-aggressive autists avoid replying to anons who BTFO'd them in the last thread.

>>60977327
i've already won the argument

you can stay deluded for all i care, why the fuck should i spoon feed you with (You)s

someone in the last thread mentioned a list of firmware commands for the saber68 on reddit but i can't find it anywhere

does anyone have a link?

Not replying to that shitty "summer lol" post, but if anyone wants to use the Right Shift key more, try this:

http://stevelosh.com/blog/2012/10/a-modern-space-cadet/#better-shifting

Standalone Left shift → (
Standalone Right shift → )
Life-chaning shit.

>>60977343
It's easy to say "I've won" when you've deluded yourself into thinking that your way to type is the correct, infallible way and typing speed or accuracy doesn't factor into it. I showed you how fast I can type on an average day without warmup. You have concealed your typing speed and are probably busy editing the results of some online typing test as we speak to make it seem like you can touch type for fuck-all despite suffering from crippling autism personality disorder. Really gets the old neurons firing, doesn't it?

>>60977423
>autism: the post

>>60977423
>being this triggered over how other people type
Lmao

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>>60977190
>>60977445

The zingers from this guy. They just keep coming!

>>60977480
That's not the topic. Please try to pay attention. See: >>60976625

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>Budget
Doesnt matter, but looking for best price/quality option
>Location (continent at least)
Poland EU
>Preferred switch type
Mx browns
>Layout
Ansi
>Form factor
Full, tkl
>Backlight
Doesnt matter
>Previous/current keyboards
Ozone strike pro mx reds. Missing it do much, but I want to try browns.
I've learned that building my own keyboard od overpriced as shit

>>60977545
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Tada68-Mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-Dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils-enjoypbt-keycap-cherry-profile/2230037_32807055607.html

>>60977545
>>Budget
Doesnt matter
>Form factor
Full, tkl
>Layout
Ansi
So... every above-average keyboards out there?
Your criteria is wide as fuck, man.
I guess a Ducky is always a fine choice.

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>>60977545
Magicforce82

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Thoughts on this? I don't want to crash the bank but I also like something decent.

>>60977659
Its one of the best keyboards out there in that price point.

>>60977480
Talk shit, get hit. Simple as that. If you're going to say "my typing method is better, I win the argument" but you can't back that shit-talk up with results, despite the fact that I posted my own results in the last thread, I'm going to call you out on it. It's sad, really. He probably really does think that he's "right" and I'm "wrong," whatever that's supposed to mean in this context. Maybe he should talk to his mother to complain?

>>60977659
Edgy gayman font.

>>60977560
Looks shitty af imo
>>60977608
>>60977647
Anyone used them and can tell me how those feel like?

>>60977759
Can't I just change them? Apparently LEDs dies a lot on this one. Good that I don't care for backlits I guess.

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>>>60977740

>Budget
100€ tops including shipping, the cheaper the better

>Location
Spain

>Preferred switch type
Unsure, but problaby blue, I don't play anymore, unless they're loudy as fuck

>Layout
ISO

>Form factor
TKL

>Backlight
No.

>Previous/current keyboards
Logitech K120

On a side note, I don't want anything with gamur aesthetics and I have a thing for vintage looking keyboards.

>>60977820
>bananaposting
Cancer.

>>60977936
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Tada68-Mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-Dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils-enjoypbt-keycap-cherry-profile/2230037_32807055607.html

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>>60977787
I have a Ducky and they are packed with all sorts of features. They aren't fully programmable, but you can still do a lot with them. The nice thing about the magicforce is that its compact will still having about the same number of keys as a TKL

>>60977283
I want to touch-type that pussy if you know what I am saying.

>>60977970
Thanks man

>>60977384
They literally said "it's on reddit" with no links or other info. How considerate of them. I'd appreciate a link too

>>60977406
how do I do this on gnu/linux

I found an old Dell with card reader. I think it is mechanic. How do I know if it is mechanic?

>>60977283

s/keyboard/dick/

>>60978214
https://www.reddit.com/

You people seem quite passionate about keyboards.

>>60977283
me on the right

>>60977959
Should I trust the chinks for this?

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>>60978263
>card reader
i'm guessing it's not mechanical

take off a keycap and see if it looks anything like this

>>60978224
*linux

>>60978374
yes

kbdfans is 100% legit and aliexpress in general seems legit just some language barrier type mistakes in the descriptions sometimes

>>60978374
Never trust Chinks.

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>>60978342
You don't fucking say? You mongoloid minge cancer

>>60978374
>>60978394
This, kbdfans is pretty niche but well-established.

>>60977283
>licking a keyboard
Absolutely haram.

>Budget
no limitation, but as low as possible
>Location (continent at least)
Taiwan
>Preferred switch type
clicky switches suitable for gaming (is it possible to have silent clicky switches?)
>Layout
ANSI I guess, (which is the one with a giant enter key?)
>Form factor
60%
>Backlight
yes, prefer plain white, none of the LGBT lighting bullshit
>Previous/current keyboards
Razor black widow tournament 2014 (plz don't judge, I didn't know anything about mechanical keyboards)

>>60978467
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Tada68-Mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-Dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils-enjoypbt-keycap-cherry-profile/2230037_32807055607.html

>>60978486
dang that was fast
thanks anon

Which mechanical keyboards are still made in Japan?

>>60978551
Topre. Modern Alps are now made by Canadians instead of the Japanese

>>60978467
>Silent clicky
Clicky literally means they click. You want a tactile switch. Unlike blues gaterons are best for browns, but I don't remember if they have an equivalent to cherry clears if you're looking for something heavier.

>>60978467
V60 with matias quiet click is more tactile then blues and browns as well as quieter then a rubber dome, but it doesn't have a backlight

>>60977936
Also while I like the first suggestions, I'd like to look into other options.

I just don't trust the chinks when it comes to warranty.

>>60978653
mechanical keyboards are so simple that there is not much they can fuck up

and for example if you fuck up a key switch you can buy some for a few bucks and solder it yourself

>>60978653
Everything is made by chinks now. Also the TADA68 is one of the best keyboards to come out in a long time. If you want something different then get a Ducky or Coolermaster. They aren't as well built or feature rich as the tada, but they come from more reputable brands

>>60977283
Does applel make good mechanically keyboards. One of my freinds offered me an imac mechanical keyboard.

>>60978731
it's not considered mechanical but for that type of keyboard (chiclet) it's actually pretty good

>>60978761
Its one of the old imac keyboards thats actually mechanical.

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>>60978785
Then you need an adapter for it. The old apple mechanical keyboards used Japanese alps which make your keycaps choices somewhat limited.

>>60978785
>imac
u sure? the imac never had a mechanical keyboard, but there are apple mechanical keyboards

>>60978866
Maybe its not an imac. I'll show you the picture.

>>60978896
If its the apple extended keyboard then there are three models, one of which is a rubber dome.

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>>60978927
This looks like it.

>>60978934
lol that's a rubber dome

>>60977787
Ducky one TKL user here. Feels good man. Get some PBT caps for much more satisfying sound.

>Budget

$100-$150

>Location (continent at least)

California

>Preferred switch type

Cherry MX Blue, Gateron Blue, Buckling Spring

>Layout

Not sure about this

>Form factor

TKL; open to anything really I like how the small boards look.

>Backlight

If it's an added feature for no extra cost; would like quality over features.

>Previous/current keyboards

Rubber Dome Bargain Bin Logitec K120


I'd rather have a quality board with room for upgrade in keycaps. I like how the MagicForce looks; are there any other boards with a similar style?

>>60979492
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Tada68-Mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-Dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils-enjoypbt-keycap-cherry-profile/2230037_32807055607.html

Who is the fag that keeps posting links to the Chink counterfeiting website?

>>60979606
I was looking at this board; it's been recommended a lot. Gonna look at some reviews for it, thanks!

>>60979634
>counterfeiting
what did he mean by this?

>>60979715
>made in China
That's what I meant.

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>>60979722
>>>/pol/

>>60979722
The fuck are you on about. Have you never gotten counterfeit Chinese goods? Maybe you are too retarded to even suspect that buying shit from China doesn't set off any red flags?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVt6KF9gtR0

>>60979801
intended for >>60979737

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>>60977283
Red pill me on ABS keycaps
Why does /mkg/ prefer pbt keycaps?

Feels good to be an old fag, I had touch typing classes in high school on IBM keyboards.

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>>60979801
>buying things that go into your body from chyna
how many levels of stupid are you on

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>>60979875

>>60979801
most consumer goods are made in china dumbass

>>60979927
Thanks anon, you just saved me hundreds of dollars

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CRXY06C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I just bought this thing for my new build, idea was to go with the cheapest option with backlighting and red/brown switches.
Most mechanical keyboards in that range have that stupid font unfortunately, but I don't think I'll care too much.

How'd I do?

What keyboard will restore my withered sense of masculinity?

>>60980069
looks ok i guess now put these meme keycaps on it

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Big-Carbon-108-125-Key-PBT-Cherry-Original-Height-Keycap-White-Dye-Sublimated-Japanese-version-Keycap/32815773322.html

>>60980103
a model m

>>60978934
I tried those keyboards back in college. They were worse than standard rubberdomes.

>>60980103
>>60980114
Can confirm. I used to be a 5'4" twink, but when my father bought me a model m I grew to be 6'1" with a chest full of hair.

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>>60980231
>I used to be a 5'4" twink
you fucked up

>>60977307
>asks question: does anyone even use right shift?
>uses right shift to type a question mark in the title
quora = plebbit = /out/

>Budget
115-125€. Not sure what to look at when it comes to dollars because taxes.

>Location
EU, Spain

>Preferred switch type
Blue, clicky, heavy. I've looked into cherry and kailh switches

>Layout
ISO much preferred, but not mandatory

>Form factor
100% or tenkeyless.
>Backlight
Any is fine

>Previous/current keyboards
Non-mechanical/membrane. It's going to be my first mechanical keyboard.

Gaymurrrr aesthetic is fine, but not preferrable. I'd prefer a simpler keyboard but I'm not gonna turn down a great offer because of looks.

>>60980944
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Tada68-Mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-Dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils-enjoypbt-keycap-cherry-profile/2230037_32807055607.html

>>60980955
Are gateron switches worth 30€ over kailh blues? I've yet to really inform me regarding switch quality and differences among brands.

>>60981032
yes

kailh is trash tier
outemu is ok tier
cherry is good tier
gateron is god tier

>>60981086
Right, thanks. Anything I should look at besides switch brand/type when looking for a mechanical keyboard? I need some more criteria if I want to browse further.

is this the cheapest tkl board with gateron browns? https://www.amazon.com/Rantopad-Chroma-Backlight-Mechanical-Keyboard/dp/B01MY6U3KX/ref=sr_1_45?ie=UTF8&qid=1497913040&sr=8-45&keywords=gateron

and is there any other cheap options?

>>60981086
>kailh is trash tier
Whoa it's like I really got transported back to 2014. Kailh are the best switches out right now, period.
>gateron god tier
Lmao

>>60981216
Would you deem a kailh blue with RGB customisable backlight for 90€ worth it, then? It's the most attractive one I've found yet.

>>60979658
I like the layout. What keyboard is it?

>>60981216
wtf? I love razor mech keyboards, now!

>Budget
<=$150

>Location (continent at least)
USA

>Preferred switch type
Cherry Black

>Layout
ANSI

>Form factor
Full, preferably with 104 rollover

>Backlight
Nice, but not needed

>Previous/current keyboards
Laptop chiclets- I have tested several switch types on keyboards at Fry's, and I like the reds but would like a heavier actuation force, but I find it almost impossible to find a board made with blacks.

>>60981250
Only kailh I would recommend are their bronze, copper, gold and silver speed switches.

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halp pls

>Budget
No more than $200

>Location
Canada

>Switch type
Leaning towards browns or reds

>Layout
Doesn't matter

>Form factor
100% preferably, but tenkeyless is cool too

>Backlights
no

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>>60981332
>104 rollover

>>60981332
Cherry g80 for 50 bucks, or Ducky One for 100

>>60981301
Is this what summer feels like?

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>>60977283
>Leopold FC980C
>Electrostatic Capacitive

So a fancy rubber dome? Get the fuck out of here with that shit.

Who is this fag insta-recommending the tada68 to everyone posting the buyer's template?

I mean it's definitely a very good keyboard but it's not perfect in every way for every one. And at this point it looks like there's a paid shill or something.

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>>60979927
Is there any better feeling in the world?

>>60981383
Get a canadian mechanical keyboard like anything by matias

>Budget
max 175?
>Location (continent at least)
usa
>Preferred switch type
Looking for anything old and loud, so cherry blues or alps whites (and blues if anything) are a select

>Layout
ANSI. I hate iso layouts

>Form factor
tenkeyless preferred, but i can fw full sized.
need an arrow key t style tho.

>Backlight
i dont care

>Previous/current keyboards
IBM Model M
Leopold Fc750r
vort3x (yuck)

>>60977384
>>60978214
would like to draw attention to this again

there's like 0 documentation in the box and apparently several more firmware settings

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finally got my new keycaps from pmk, sorry of the blurry photo, i cant into top down pics. just 2 concerns...

-the red modifiers show this weird light reflection smudge that only appears in pictures, it really bothers me as my lighting isnt really the best

-my magic force has some back light, while i can turn them off i sometimes like to turn them on at lowest setting especially with these keycaps during the day, adds a nice accent i think, but for some reason there's a really bad shine through ONLY on the red keys, I thought shine through was not a problem for PBT?

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>>60981972
Woops wrong pic here's the. Kitty one with that weird shine smudgy reflection

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>>60981972
Here's the shine through on the LOWEST light setting

>>60981989
>here's the kitty

Auto correct sorry not sure what I was trying to say

>>60981844
IBM Unsaver, if you can find it

>>60982117
I want something more like the Cherry G80-3000HRMUS, but its impossible to find... any similar boards?

>>60982162
Whats wrong with the g80? With that kind of budget you can get a Dolch Pac with vintage mx blues

>>60982194
hmm.... There are a bunch of g8-3000s (g8 has nkro im psure) but i just want the lighter one because I can get easypbt caps (which looks v nice)

>>60982305
No they have 6kro. Also since they are PCB mount they're a lot lighter then normal keyboards

>>60982340
oh, didnt know that

I meant lighter as in, light color scheme

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>New Preonic has high profile case
wtf I want to sell assdrop planck

>>60982476
If you want a fruity little keyboard then get a varmilo

These keycaps are everything I want, except for the fact that they're fucking ABS.
http://www.keypop.net/product/tai-hao-purple-cream-104-keycap-doubleshot-keyset

>>60977659
I've got one with Cherry MX Blues - nice keyboard for pretty cheap, if you ignore the ugly font. I've got a dead LED in mine though, which is pretty common with this model.

Looking to pick up my first mecha-board this week, replacing my old ass keyboard from 2009.

>Budget
$170-$200
>Location (continent at least)
Canada
>Preferred switch type
MX Browns, I guess?
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
Full
>Backlight
RGB if possible.
>Previous/current keyboards
Razer Lycosa circa 2009. I'd rather not have a Razer

I was looking at Corsair K70 Lux and Coolermaster Masterkeys Pro L at Canadacomputers. Both Browns

Of the two, which to get? Or are there better alternatives in my budget range.

>>60983504
There are much much cheaper alternatives, but between those two you listed I'd go with the cooler master since the software and build quality are better

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>>60977659
just buy this for the fraction of the price
https://www.amazon.com/Velocifire-Tenkeyless-Mechanical-Keyboard-Switches/dp/B01MS8YTYX/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497925054&sr=8-1&keywords=velocifire+tkl01

>>60983536

What would be some other alternatives? Anything is probably gonna be an improvement over my mem-razer.

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Can I still use all the function keys?

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>>60983594
What features are a must? You can get corsair knockoffs like e-element for 60 american bucks. If you just want RGB lighting then plenty of cheap chink keyboards do that.

>>60983611
Yes

>>60983637

Brown Switch, Full layout. Wrist rest would be nice and something sturdy enough to last me for the next 5 years or so.

>>60983662
Velocifire, James Donkey, and Rosewill are all cheap options with zorro, gateron, and cherry switches respectively

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Anyone know keycap sets with this color scheme? It has that nice mix of playful colors and plain old beige.

>>60983744
Your gonna have to get two keycap sets. But the Race 3 has them as stock keycaps

>>60978384
Google "linux shift parenthesis"? There are a bunch of softwares that let you do that.

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>>60983651
Do you have any idea what the seller means by these statements?

Is the signal converter just a PS2 adapter?

I have no idea what he means by extra programming, I'd assume there's support baked into legacy shit in windows but I guess I'm a retard.

Anyone here ever order from kbdfans?
I ordered a KBD75 from them on Thursday and still no signs of it moving, order still just says that they've received the order. Gonna give it until Thursday to see what's up, I see nothing indicating they're taking pre-orders, so I'd imagine they'd be ready to ship...

>>60983774
The converter makes the keyboard fully programmable so you can do things like macros and media keys that can't be done on a normal model M. F13-24 need to be programmed first before you can use them. You just need one active converter to do that.

>>60983807
Like a physical converter that I plug between the keyboard and the computer? Or like driver software? Sorry I've never used something like this before.

>>60983821
Its a physical item that with some software can be programmed

>>60983342
These are blank, but almost similar colors?
http://www.geekkeys.com/geekkeys-purple-white-blank-thick-pbt-full-keyset/

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thoughts?

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>>60981498
So fancy that unlike a traditional MEMBRANE you don't need to bottom out to activate.
>using improper terms

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>>60977500
Wait isn't 83 apm like abysmal?

That's how quick I touch type when I use only two fingers and my thumbs for spacebar

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Is it just a coincidence that both of these have "G" keys or are those a legit thing that will conflict with eachother?

>>60983821
get a soarers converter from the ebay user orihalcon, they are 40 dollars and have a single board inside of the cable that does work out of the box but to reprogram keys and macros all u have to do is edit a simple text file. Mine works great for my 122 key model m

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>>60984176
>Membrane
>is actually a tiny rubber dome

hurr durr, way to label you're own post, dipshito.

>>60983821
and also by "some keys not working by default, he is refering to the 10 keys to the far left of the keyboard not having a specific function untill u assign one to them

>>60984510
What are you quoting? What's a 'tiny rubber dome'?

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>>60984510
Actually for a rubber dome they're pretty large. The top layer is a more traditional rubber dome size, while normal topres are on the bottom

>>60981207
James Donkey has cheaper board if you don't mind the edgy aesthetic and retarded name.

>>60984615
You seem to have lost your faculties when you were buttblasted and btfo, moran.
>>60984673
Both examples are tiny, just that one is smaller than the other.

>>60984264
Usually with G key you have to run the software in order to use them. There shouldn't be a conflict, aside from running two different programs just to use a mouse and keyboard.

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>>60984849
I didnt know it was possible to make that ugly of a keyboard jesus christ

>>60984849
>$59.99
oh shit. the price went up
weren't they like $39.99 before?

>>60981250
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Plum87-gateron-mx-brown-blue-mechanical-keyboard-RGB-backlit-TKL-gaming-keyboard-PBT-keycap-87-tenkeyless/32598358025.html

>>60985249
The TKL is $49.99, but no the price has been that way for a while.

>>60982008
https://geekhack
.org/index.php?topic=66567.0

>>60983744
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Cmyw-keyboarded-sculpture-24-key-mechanical-keyboard-keycaps-CMYW/32677382401.html

>>60983784
expect a slight delay if you ordered a grey or black case or if you ordered assembly service, otherwise it should ship soon

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What mechanical keyboard is this and where can I get these keycaps?

>>60979658
god I really want those keycaps why are they so expensive though

>>60981301
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Tada68-Mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-Dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils-enjoypbt-keycap-cherry-profile/2230037_32807055607.html

>>60985564
That's switchnollie's pok3r with WASD custom keycaps. WASD is pretty shitty, but good when it comes to super custom stuff like your pic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvNDRunxo58

>>60985453
I ordered a grey case. Reading the red text on their page it made it seem like they were going to be doing another run of the grey and black cases.
Interestingly, the only options now are black, orange and grey.
If I don't see any movement by Thursday I'll send them an email just to see what's up. If I have to wait until next month, I'll wait but I'd rather not.

Now to try and make sense of their engrish document for programing the damn thing lol

>>60985914
did switchnollie ever release the images for his nonon set?

>>60985968
Oh, I should also add that I didn't order assembly, Not that it requires any real soldering skill to assemble a keyboard, but why rob myself of that fun. Plus I'm a faggot who uses a few different switches in my boards.

>>60977283
Why is that human excreting digestive enzymes on a keyboard?

>>60977423
I wasn't here for the old posts, but I think I get the gist of it. I can type 140-155wpm or so and I don't type properly. I mostly type with my left hand, and I do a few weird things like hitting x with my thumb sometimes. Despite this, I do think learning to type properly is worth it. I could probably get even faster this way, and maybe make my right hand as fast as my left over time. The only reason I haven't is because of how long it takes to get back up to speed, and how painful it is to see such low test results after being used to seeing really high ones. I'm thinking of getting an ergodox to force me to learn to type in a more balanced way.

Anyway, I just wanted to say that being a typing god without being properly taught doesn't mean you should shit on people trying to teach people to type properly. You and I may be skilled, but if someone want to improve their typing, I don't think anything is wrong with them taking a proper path. My typing style is basically due to weird childhood habits. I don't think it's worth replicating or anything. You obviously don't have to learn to type properly, but I don't think bragging that you type a unique way is good either.

>>60986268
>being a typing god
Funny thing is he has like 80 wpm too

>>60977659
not sure about the i, but I have the original QFR and got a frosty flake for it. you should do the same if you can (I mean, if the i version supports something like the frosty flake, then get it)

>>60980143
This. I had the misfortune of using one in a school computer lab once, long after it should've been there. For some reason it was connected to a modern iMac. It was extremely uncomfortable to type on. The actuation was difficult and felt awful as well. These days I type on cherry mx greens, and I swear they take less force.

>>60986318
I think I went up from 80 to above 100wpm in not too long. There's still hope for him if he keeps at it. I didn't take daily tests, I just had periods where I'd test a lot in a row, so I don't have a graph of my progress, unfortunately. I also don't know much about how improving typing speed works, I just know that I have always typed a lot and I enjoyed typing tests.

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I used 2 membrane + 1 mechanical keyboard after my G510 died. Is there any other keyboard that have the G510 feels? The palm rest is a plus too.

>>60984887
glad to be of deservice :^)

>>60986450
I went from the g510 to the model M,

I only miss the screen and volume rocker, the keys are butter.

The cheap dell pc keyboard is the best membrane keyboard there is

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>>60986455
Did you mean: disservice

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>>60986522
i don't know why but i had a few misclick with the G510 than the others keyboard i have and it is very comfortable to type with.
anyway, anyone can comment about the keycaps on pic related?

>>60986568
> anyway, anyone comment about the keycaps on pic related?
They're poorly drawn

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>>60986568
>anyway, anyone can comment about the keycaps on pic related?
what do you mean

Monthly reminder that abs keycaps are the raw denim of keyboards while pbt is like dickies chinos.

>Budget
200€
>Location (continent at least)
Sweden
>Preferred switch type
Don't know yet, I think Black would be fine since I type a bit heavy
>Layout
Nordic
>Form factor
1, full keyboard
>Backlight
yes, but no rainbow bullshit just plain black or red
>Previous/current keyboards
Aivia K8100 V2, really like the layout/form, but the keys fall of too easily, so I'd like to try a mechanical

>>60987089
worn abs keycaps are just gross

if you want smooth keycaps you can get untextured pbt

>>60987165
https://www.candykeys.com/product/fc980m-black-iso-de-mx-blue/

>https://www.aliexpress.com/item/top-printed-pbt-keycaps-uk-layout-iso-oem-profile-for-usb-gaming-mechanical-keyboard/32804826300.html
^ lacks a few keys for full compatibility but can be mixed with the stock keycaps and/or with:
>https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Cmyw-keyboarded-sculpture-24-key-mechanical-keyboard-keycaps-CMYW/32677382401.html

>>60987277
aww shiet i forgot about the backlight, i would recommend cooler master masterkeys pro l with white backlight but i could only find it with mx brown switches

>>60987277
>https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Cmyw-keyboarded-sculpture-24-key-mechanical-keyboard-keycaps-CMYW/32677382401.html
these ones instead (to match the profile, OEM vs cherry profile):
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/CMYW-24keys-PBT-blank-keycaps-Mechanical-keyboard-keycaps/32740904506.html

>>60987277
>>60987324
thanks man. I'll check it out

>>60987338
check this too, has pretty much everything except for the numpad

https://www.candykeys.com/product/varmilo-va88m/

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>DHL will be delivering my tada today, exactly 1 week after kbdfans sent it

I am excite

>>60979658
It's getting to the point where I would consider paying you to take that nappy towel off your desk, or at the very least post a pic of your setup without it in every thread.

>>60981391
Let's not make fun of this guy, he clearly lost limbs or is paralyzed

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>>60987820
how much are you going to pay me

>>60981993
holy fucking shit, i came. what's up with the weird distortion on the photo though

>>60984264
That mouse is fucking badass, I own two of them. I consider it essential when I'm playing a game like WoW (which I do very very rarely these days) but have found the customizable macros to be indispensable when working seriously with content creation and audio production. The 3rd click is beast, I think that they might actually have a patent on it because you don't see it often

>>60985191
what's the card anon

>>60987850
for FPS gaming mice you want just a grip for sideways movement control, but yeah i can see how a third click would be nice for MMOs and productivity stuff

>>60988138
nice meme keep memeing

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Convince me not to get a Unicomp. Coming from years on cherry browns.

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>>60988279
The 103 key Ultra Classic is a great keyboard for a great price & buckling springs are probably the best switch ever invented.

Hope that helps.

>>60988279
>>60988311
ill get unicomp as soon as they make a tenkeyless version
any day now.....

>>60988570
>tenkeyless

>>>/lgbt/

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>>60988255
Thanks, I'll do my best

>>60988673
How do you use this image? Do you use it as a reference or something more important?

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>>60988683
>Do you use it as a reference
it's more of a reference for the PCB manufacturer than it is one for me

>>60988570
any day now

https://twitter.com/unicompkeyboard/status/233391524283568130

>>60988729
>not making your own PCB

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>>60988906
I'm thinking of that actually, it'd only be 40 cents cheaper per pcb, but I do have this small cnc mill that I've been wanting to use and making them myself would be pretty cool. Not to mention I wouldn't have to wait for them to get shipped.

Gotta clean up the whole shed first though

>>60988736
damn its been this long already
they have to be retarded tho unicomp ssk would make them so much fucking money

>>60989065
They decided to make a 75% keyboard instead. Last update was two years ago

Trying to find useful keycap sets is hell. Every single listing omits at least one important factor. Shit like ISO/ANSI, extra keys, profile, material, backlit, keysizing for shift/spacebar, or even the fucking colour.

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So, the joke here is that you're not supposed to type on these keys and they are just for decoration, right?
Because I don't get this "artisan keycap" thing at all.

>>60989496
And now you understand why there's a whole industry working to sell you that one "perfect" iPhone case.
Personal preferences are hard to satisfy, man.

>>60989026
Is that a grape plant outside the window?

>>60989065
>>60989457
They agreed the idea would be a good one, but they do not have the ability to manufacture them.

>>60989567
Yeh, makes good grape juice

>>60989593
Noice, I bet munching on your fresh berries as you create is pretty comfy.

>>60989520
I wouldn't even say that my preferences are that out special. I just want some keycaps that don't look especially vibrant or old, and which are kind of universal so I can change them easily. The biggest hurdle seems to be the fact that I want to make a 65% sort of thing, with the arrow keys in the right shift basically, and the only sets that seem to accommodate that are ones specifically for only that layout.
I also would like ISO and specifically a European layout with the € on the 5, but I've given that up because that's fucking impossible.

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>>60989614
v. Comfy

>>60989504
You're not supposed to "type" on the escape key anyway.

>>60989676
There are sets that meet all those requirements, but they're expensive

>>60989832
Well I can't find them.

>>60989579
>they do not have the ability to manufacture them
how does this even happen

did they just buy the equipment and picked up none of the engineering know-how

meanwhile some guy is making all kinds of different model f repros

>>60977283
Name of the keyboard in OP image?

>>60989844
You're probably looking at cheap sets since you're a yuropoor after all. If you want unifrom keycaps so that you can change them easily you have four profile options. XDA, DSA, G20, and SA row 3.

>>60989867
Leopold FC980C

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>>60989867
Read the file name

>>60989887
I was too busy fapping to the girl, sorry.

>>60989862
They literally bought Lexmarks gear and know which buttons to push in order to make it spit out keyboards. Why change something that is working just to appease aesthetic fags.

>>60989869
>You're probably looking at cheap sets since you're a yuropoor after all.
I've looked at all sites that I've seen linked here. Best selection is actually on aliexpress though, the more expensive sites only have very rigid sets.
>If you want unifrom keycaps so that you can change them easily you have four profile options. XDA, DSA, G20, and SA row 3.
It's not so much that I can switch them on that axis, more that I don't have a profile that's hard to get. I'm not going to try and switch ctrl for F1 or something, I just want to be able to buy a different F1 to exchange my F1 easily for example.

>>60989916
Then look at group buys if thats what you want. Massdrop has some, and geekhack is a great place to keep up to date. Pimpmykeyboard offers international keycaps for some of their sets

>>60990000
I don't see any of those on massdrop. Geekhack isn't a store. And Pimpmykeyboard doesn't say what size the keys are that they include in their sets for example. And again, I don't really care about "international" keycaps.

>>60989916
so you probably want cherry profile

what's your budget and what exactly are you looking for.. is white and grey ok or what do you want exactly

>>60990070
I'm mostly just trying to orient myself in what's possible, but my budget would be something like 100$ I guess though preferably less obviously. I'd prefer a plain white text on black keycaps, but I'd settle for anything close. White and grey is pretty much the opposite of white on black.

>>60990065
You can buy keycap sets off geekhack from manufacturers who do small community runs. Pimp my keyboard uses standard keysizes so just look at them since they're all listed

>>60990134
>You can buy keycap sets off geekhack from manufacturers who do small community runs
It still doesn't have any of the advantages of a store. Needing to go in each specific thread to see what they mean is a fucking hassle.
>Pimp my keyboard uses standard keysizes so just look at them since they're all listed
In that case they're not useful. Also, "standard" keysizes aren't really a thing. The left CTRL for ISO for example can be 1.75 or 2 depending on who makes the keyboard. Or if you think there are actual standards, then I would love to see where they're defined.

>>60990107
this would probably be your best option at least if you want (thick) pbt rather than abs plastic. it's white text on black keycaps and it has the 1.75u right shift and pgup/pgdn/etc in the correct profiles and it even has the 5.5u choc mini/plum84 spacebar. it's double shot so the text won't fade and it's proper white colored.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mechanical-keyboard-pbt-keyboarded-a-large-black-keyboard-keyboarded/32740037614.html

i think that within 1-2 years manufacturers will start making reverse dye sublimation where they take a white keycap and dye everything except the text, but for now the set i linked seems to be the best fit for what you want

>>60983016
kinda want one now

>>60990190
That does look pretty much like what I was looking for. Must've looked over it because of the "normal" colour looking like ass. But that black colour looks good.
Not that much of a fan of some of the symbol placement, but that's just nitpicking really.
Thanks mate.

>>60990185
They're all in one place and its updated almost daily. As far as keycap sizes go PMK lists them all. Just look at the pictures. Also 1u is the standard

>>60990370
>They're all in one place and its updated almost daily.
Can you link that then, I don't see it. Anyway, that's still less convenient than it being a store as you can see.

>As far as keycap sizes go PMK lists them all. Just look at the pictures.
Not all sets are included in the pictures, it's also a shit way to find out what the standards are. And they don't have all "standards".

>Also 1u is the standard
I'm assuming you're talking about control, which I haven't seen any proof for. Both sizings are used.

>>60990397
I'm not talking about control. What are you talking about? Keycap lengths come in a standard unit or u for short. If you need a 2u ctrl then get a 2u ctrl since PMK sells those. They also sell 1.75, 1.25, and 1.5u ctrl. Because of this you can look at a keycap and determin its size. Unless you're looking for old ass keycaps you won't run into any issues. All sets are included in the pictures from what I see.

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Massshit sent me an email today about the amazing new product they're selling: an artisan spacebar for the low price of only $65!

Seriously, fuck Massshit. Everything they sell is hugely overpriced.

I've unsubbed from all of their emails now so I'm not getting bothered by that shit anymore. Chinese sellers like kbdfans are the only that don't fuck you over for little pieces of plastic.

>>60990397
4chan thinks its spam
geekhack
.org/index.php?topic=57761.0

>>60990452
>I'm not talking about control. What are you talking about? Keycap lengths come in a standard unit or u for short.
I knew that, as evidenced by me using that shit mate. I thought you were talking about something else considering you brought it up like I didn't knew about it.

>If you need a 2u ctrl then get a 2u ctrl since PMK sells those. They also sell 1.75, 1.25, and 1.5u ctrl.
I don't see any of those. Besides, I hoped it would be a set. And it seems all caps they offer are an SA or a variant of that only.

>All sets are included in the pictures from what I see.
I definitely see certain combinations not come through. Anyway, it's still a shit system to determine a standard, which is what this particular bit is about.
>>60990481
That's just a link to different threads. That's not really better than just browsing the forum mate. There are also literally no keycaps in there, even though I found a link to keycaps in the forum, so it's not even comprehensive.

>>60990538
pmk doesn't sell individual keycaps at a low price. Instead you buy it though a whole set that includes other keycaps you won't need. Also nigga are you blind? Its not that hard to look at a keycap and see, yup that fits. Its literally Legos. I wouldn't buy from geekhack tho, unless you find something you like.

>>60990593
>pmk doesn't sell individual keycaps at a low price. Instead you buy it though a whole set that includes other keycaps you won't need.
I don't see any sets either, aside from coloured blank ones.

>Also nigga are you blind? Its not that hard to look at a keycap and see, yup that fits. Its literally Legos.
It is if the pictures are shit, if you're using unconventional sizes, if the keys aren't relative to standard sized keys, or if what it's supposed to fit in isn't defined yet. The biggest issue is generally the right shift, because most of the time they don't offer a different one, and if there is a different shift it's pretty hard to tell if it's an ISO lefty or a 65% righty because they're isolated.

>>60990656
They have several sets you can buy. They sell the standard sets that go on Ducky, Filco, costar, etc for the base price that you see. Then if you need the special size key sets you buy those. Its all listed there and they all have pictures showing you the sizes. They make sets to fit almost every keyboard. Its not that hard since its all labeled

>>60990726
So the different sized keys aren't in seperate sets. I thought you implied that in >>60990452
Still, then you run into the issues I listed in >>60990656
I can only see that they offer different ctrl's and shifts, I can't tell if they're 1.25, 1.5, 1.75, or 2 from the picture. Also, the labelling is shit, it's literally "alternate keys", which means fucking shit.

>>60990796
Yes you can. Just use your eyes. 1u is the size of a single keycap, like the letter v. 2u is twice that length. They're lined up in order so you can see them. No shit they label it as alternate since they're abnormal sizes. They also have international sets if you want the € on 5

>>60986450
I went from a 110 (I think) to a G810 at the weekend and I've fallen in love with it. It doesn't have a wrist rest with it however.

Guys, is CM Masterkeys Pro S a good way to get into mechanical keyboards?

>>60990847
>1u is the size of a single keycap, like the letter v. 2u is twice that length.
I fucking know that mate, I've said/implied this 3 times now already.

>They're lined up in order so you can see them.
Considering the slope and the fact that they're not next to standardized keys, and the small differences in sizes, I disagree.

>No shit they label it as alternate since they're abnormal sizes.
I'm just saying that your claim of "it's not that hard since its all labeled" is terrible because just saying they're alternate means jack shit for sizing.

>>60990894
yes

>>60987733
>one week
That actually sound kind of slow for dhl

>>60990480
THANK YOU BASED CHINKS

>>60987733
>tfw I had to wait 3 weeks for my chink topre clone board to arrive

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I have a supposedly NIB Omnikey 101 at my parents. #hype for one of the greatest keyboards to exist. NKRO. Doubleshots. Native DVORAK and QWERTY. Complicated ALPS. ANSI. 100/10 for the best keyboard to ever exist.

Are oetmu blue switches any good?

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>>60991383
I'll give you ten bucks for it

>>60991408
they're pretty ok, but gateron and cherry are better options

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>>60991429
I was doubting between buying a keyboard with oetmu for 40€ or the one in your picture for 90€.

Also found pic related with gateron browns for 60€ on Amazon.

>>60991551
magicforce with gaterons is a pretty good option

>>60991572
Are those good switches for typing?

>>60991822
there's no switches that are inherently better for typing, but yes, gateron browns are v. nice

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>>60986268
>140-155 WPM
Not that guy, and I don't care how you type but let's see your digits otherwise you're all talk nigga. It's time for an unverifiable autism contest.

>me: 104 on unicomp model M, no warmup
desu this test is kinda inconsistent, though. much easier when you get longer words

http://typing-speed-test.aoeu.eu/

why do people like those monster artisan keycaps? i understand keys from like, jelly keys for example, but some of these "artisan" key caps literally looks like those monster shit you get at the grocery store for 25 cents

>>60991908
To be honest, all artisan keycaps inherently make a keyboard look like shit. It's why I can't stand plebbit's keyboard forums: you just can't call out faggots for ruining their keyboard with artisans. Plus the simple fact that three skull keycaps from that lucky jew who peddles them to morons costs more than a full set of enjoypbt.

The resident tripfag's ironic artisan is the only one I've ever had respect for.

>>60991978
like i said i dont mind keycaps in the style of jelly keys, which looks like actual pieces of art that some one put a lot of time and effort into to be used as accent pieces. But those retarded 3d printed monster shit is what grinds my gears.

i also approve of trace butt >>60989504
would've been nice if they made the but from like soft silicone or something

>>60991429
Why do the enjoyPBT set cost $20 more today than when I checked a week ago? :c

>>60992166
there are two versions of the jap set, with or without sushi

>>60992215
The one with sushi. It rose in price at least, might've been only 10 or 15 bucks. But I swear it was cheaper not long ago.

>>60992166
Hm? They still are listed as $80 for me on the kbdfans site, which is exactly what I paid for them like 3 weeks ago. Were they on sale or something? $60 for those would be an amazing deal.

>>60992248
holy shit, $99 for non-sushi, $107 ($113 normally) with sushi

probably because of the high demand

>>60992266
the japanese version is $99 there too

Is a Corsair K70 for 70 yurobucks a good deal?

>>60992298
>>60992248
looks like it's $99 with sushi tho

https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/collections/keycaps/products/enjoypbt-keycaps-dye-subbed-keycap-set-117keys?variant=35672053453

https://www.mechkeys.ca/product/alu68/

y/n?

>>60992333

>>60992298

should have copped it last I looked at it then. damned.

>>60992471
Unless you really wanted the underglow or backlight, the TADA68 has far better caps and costs less money.

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So Matt3o apparently didn't work out their relationship with Massdrop, and the Whitefox is now on kickstarter.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lekashman/whitefox-mechanical-keyboard
http://matt3o.com/whitefox-heart-kickstarter/

I would pick one up if there was an option for a Black/Grey case.

>>60992471
Also, that site doesn't even list what switches the keyboard uses. Or at least they don't list it somewhere obvious.

>>60992543
well i have my own keycaps, are these underglows usually like changeable to solid colors?

qmk means its a programmable kb right? is it easy to reprogram for someone with 0 coding experience?

>>60992568
apparently switches are chosen aftercheck out, i mean i am planning to contact them before hand on what switches are available

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>>60992565
>I would pick one up if there was an option for a Black/Grey case.
Actually, I think I take that back. On the kickstarter the only option for the layout is the "True Fox" layout, which is an absolutely retarded layout.

I'm not sure I'd get another layout except the "Vanilla" which doesn't have unnecessary wasted space on the bottom row.

And it appears it's not shipping to even parts of Europe, with an estimated ship date of December for the places it does ship. This is an incredibly disappointing drop.

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I want DSA Quartz, but why did they bundle all the international keys togather. Would it not make more sense to seperate them by language

>>60992910
because bundling them makes them more money.

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>>60992471
it's pretty sick looking, but personally i'd probably go for the one with left hand side keys (i don't know what it's called), but go for it if you like it and you know what you're getting yourself into (assembly etc)

>>60992656
>programmable
It's super easy and done with a GUI, it's not at all like writing "code". Some guy wrote a blog post about it: https://chrisabides.wordpress.com/2016/08/31/review-and-programming-tutorial-tada68/

>>60987836
I took the photo with a Galaxy s8

>>60990480
GOD BLESS THE CHINKS!
Thanks to them we now have custom aluminum 96 key keyboards for 90 bucks

>>60993186
what where

>>60992910
they make the dumbest bundles on purpose because they know autists will buy them anyway just to get that 1.75u shift key or whatever.

>>60993024

i just talked to some one, apparently switches are a selection of gaterons or they MIGHT be able to get ergo clears(1Cad/ea). are ergo clears any good outside of typing or are they to heavy for gayming

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>>60993245
It not fully aluminum as the side has an acrylic layer for the under glow. Also its a kit so you have to assemble it yourself. They will anodize the aluminum. This picture is just a prototype.

>>60993339
The "gaming" switch is a myth, and lots of people actually recommend heavier switches for gaming due to accidental keypresses being harder, and bottoming out not being a big deal in many games where you're basically just using the keyboard to walk and jump. Point is, it's opinionated and basically nobody knows what you personally think is the best gaming placebo board.

But in any case ergo clears are actually *lighter* clears--basically like browns with a bigger tactile bump. They shouldn't be too heavy for anything. I don't know why you'd waste that much extra money for them over gateron browns, which already have a bigger tactile bump than cherry browns.

>>60993618
"Gaming" anything is a meme for easy cashgrab from retards.

Any good player will do fine with a 5 bucks rubber dome.

>>60993618
While I do know there's no such thing as gaming switch, coming from membrane (currently using gateron browns), my fingers literally gets tired really fast when I was on my old membrane keyboard not just during gaming mind you, when I'm also typing up lab reports and what not. So switching to a mechanical def made a HUGE difference, my fingers basically never tire out like they used to!

Anyway the person offered either 62g or 67g ergo clears. I'm not sure if these are considered heavy or not?

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>>60977283
Should I? I'm done with this G15

>>60993888
62g is on the upper end of "medium" stiffness, I'd say. 67g is almost the same or as stiff as a regular cherry MX clear. If you don't like stiff switches, definitely stick with gateron browns; ergo clears have nothing to offer you. They're mostly for people who really want a middle ground between browns, which are pretty light, and MX clears, which are pretty stiff.

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Anyone know where to get these, but labeled?

Is there a keycap set with only japanese letters ?

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the plate doesn't even flex thanks to the support structures

>>60994745
DSA Otaku, it's incredibly ugly

bls help just fucked my Strafe (which I really enjoyed using)
>£80-£100 ceiling
>UK
>I like browns, but I'm not all that fussy
>ISO ideally
>Fullsize
>I'd be amazed to find something without lights
>last thing I owned was a strafe but I abused it and I intend to take better care of whatever I buy next
Did I miss anything?

>>60994820
Doesn't look that bad imo, purchased hiragana base set, thanks for the link.

>>60994856
Thinking about it I really don't need an ISO layout

>>60994856
Cherry G80. They're so cheap and common that its possible to buy them for the same price as a rubber dome keyboard. That way if you break them you wont have lost a lot of money

>>60994599
alrighty thank you for the info, you think the jump from gat browns (i think these are 45g) to 62g is a alot? i haven't tried stiff keys at all (aside from the numpad sign-in at my gym, but no clue on what kind of switch they are really heavy) where would your average logitech membrane kb fall into stiffness, if its even comparable?

>>60992142
>jelly key
>art

>>60977545
>building yourself is overpriced
have fun with your not fully programmable normie keyboard.

Are GMK keycaps a meme?

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>>60988138
>staggering on a split board
seiden what are you doing?

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>>60977545
>I've learned that building my own keyboard od overpriced as shit
I'm currently building a keyboard that costs 25 bucks, of 21 of which are for the switches.

>>60995483
it's not going to be split anon

maybe my >endgame board will be split. I should definitely try making a lets split once I get the time.

>>60995505
You should have made the break on the left part of the case and the right part of the plate. Then it wouldn't look as asymmetric.

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>>60995650
you're not going to see the break once it's all glued together, going to sand it down and spray paint it and everything

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Well, /g/, I ordered it: HyperX Alloy MX Brown (Nordic).

- Wanted brown Switches because I type a lot. Also wanted a numpad because I use it all the time.
- Wanted a keyboard with backlight. Don't care about RGB, don't need fancy effects, just need to be able to see the keys if I'm watching a movie or something with the light off and I need to reply to something real quick or whatever.
- Wanted a keyboard that's actually got the menu key on the right bottom row since I use that all the time - and I never use the Windows key, it doesn't even do anything on GNU/Linux.

... so.. according to the tracking it should be here tomorrow.

I hope it's .. nice.

>>60995711
I must admit I'm not a big fan of you sanding and painting on the numpad. But that might be because it looks like it's going to feel like dragging you nails across a blackboard. Try clear coat?

>>60993618
>>60993786
It's interesting that the local stores have dozens of pages with mechanical keyboards with cherry mx RED switches and just a few others.

Meanwhile all over Asia and specially China it's all about the mx blue, that's The Gaming Switch there.

Essentially, it's just marketing. I personally don't like any of those, can't type fast on red without making a dozen errors and the blue switch is just too loud.

Are there any TKL keyboards that have the equivalent of a trackpoint?

>Budget
Around $100
>Location (continent at least)
Canada
>Preferred switch type
MX Blue/Black
>Layout
Ansi
>Form factor
60%
>Backlight
None
>Previous/current keyboards
Generic laptop keyboard

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>>60995739
hmm, I'm not totally happy with how the finish on the numpad turned out, but I do like the color and texture the spray paint gives the parts.

wouldn't clear coat make it glossy?

Are gaterons switch colors the same as cherry? Or comparable at least? Looking to get a new keyboard (had mx blacks) and i enjoyed the tactile feel of the browns.

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>Get a g710+
>G keys pretty convenient for Adobe programs and browser shenanigans
>Typing feels pretty damn good too
>"r" key stops working after putting it to sleep
>Will start working like nothing was wrong after a while

At least this thread gave me some good ideas on alternatives

>>60995820
Asian markets are more into MMO/MOBA so a stiffer switch with tactile feedback is really helpful. Meanwhile in the West, FPS are what most people watch so fast linear switches help.

As for reds, I find I type faster on them after enough muscle memory training.

>>60995989
Yes, clear coat would make it glossy. Theres too few glossy keyboards.

>>60996026
Gateron colors are the same as Cherry, but with a few quirks, such as a smoother stem on the switches and bigger tactile bump on the Browns. Of course, since they're chink switches, you also have to deal with inconsistency and QC issues with Gaterons.

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>>60996216
wouldn't it make more sense to just use acetone to make it smooth and glossy then?

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new thrad