/mkg/ - mechanical keyboard general

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mechanical keyboards are a meme

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>>60996406
this, don't waste your time kids

>>60996419
tfw bought $135 worth of plastic keys because im autistic

>Budget
Around $100
>Location (continent at least)
Canada
>Preferred switch type
MX Blue/Black
>Layout
Ansi
>Form factor
60%
>Backlight
None
>Previous/current keyboards
Generic laptop keyboard

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Is pic related worth it?

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The WhiteFox is back. Thoughts?

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lekashman/whitefox-mechanical-keyboard

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>>60996953
my thoughts were in the last thread
>>60992565
>>60992675

>>60996724
yes. topre > *

>>60997037
Same here I also want the NightFox color scheme. I might settle for the WhiteFox and swap the key caps though.

>>60996406
they're cheaper. my 50€ G80-3000 is still fine after 10 years. 10€ membrane keyboards usually last around 2 years - they might kinda work longer, but some keys take more force to actuate so you throw it away and get a new one.

alright anons. Has anyone used an ortholinear layout before? Is it superior or a meme?

>>60997432
>ortholinear
it's really hard to get used to it and fucks up with your wrists real good

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Ultimate memeforce

>>60997564
>fucks up with your wrists
well, that's more than enough reason to drop the idea of it.

Can anyone comment on the quality of EnjoyPBT's keycaps?

>>60996724
>$200 rubber domes
sure, anon.

>>60996419
Wouldn't acetone melt it?

What's the cheapest japanese keycap set out there ? Can't afford to spend $100 right now and I really want one.

>>60996227
>same as cherry
Aren't their clears completely different or something?

>>60996316
How is this poor edition? It cost you 10x more than it would as complete product.

>>60997564
Uh could you explain why? I've never used one myself, but isn't their purpose the exact opposite?

Or do you need a split one to be able to actually benefit from it?

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It has arrived! Huzzah! Just in time for me to leave on holiday for an entire week. Wasn't able to even try it out properly yet. At least it gives me something to look forward to when I get back - should be a good change from my juice-soaked chiclet membrane.

>>60998292
Wait can you actually get tada68 with greens ?
Can I get a link for that?

>>60998375
No idea, I don't think it was an option on kbdfans when I ordered. Maybe they're using a generic sticker or something.

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>>60998052
>It cost you 10x more than it would as complete product.
it cost me less than 25 bucks anon

>>60997955
it melts it a bit, but it's not that aggressive. Works great for fusing parts together.

I like buckling spring (tried out cherry in store; did not feel as good as old IBM). Is there any other manufacturer besides unicomp?

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Anyone know of a set of something like pic related but labeled

>>60998916
those are just grey and dark grey keys
do you know how google works? theyre pretty generic.

just about everything tells me that there shouldn't be that gap there

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>>60999297

>>60996216
>>60996234
Glossy a shit.
t. Matias owner

>>60998068
It doesn't. If you have proper hand posture, it's way more comfortable to use than staggered layouts.

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Hi /mkg/. Once upon a time I stumbled across a firmware editor for the HHKB so that you could reprogram it in various ways. I can't seem to find it now. Does anyone know:
1. If am I simply mis-remembering?
2. If I am not, where this tool can be found?
3. Have you used it before with any success or issues?

I would like to purchase one, but would want to ever-so-slightly tweak the layout from its default, particularly the function layer.

>>60979967

Yeah, but you don't buy those consumer goods DIRECTLY FROM CHINA, dumbass, and for good reason.

Well after about 7 years of typing on a Filco with Cherry MX browns, I thought I'd mix things up and order the same keyboard but with Cherry MX blue switches. BIG mistake. How can the same company that makes such a smooth tactile switch as the browns turn around and make the wobbly, sloppy piece of garbage that is the MX blue switch?

Before I return the keyboard, I just wanted to ask if I got a lemon, or if the switches will smooth out after they break in, or what the hell is going on with this. Is my experience normal?

>>60999803
>2. If I am not, where this tool can be found?
you're looking for Hasu's alternate HHKB controller, everything you need to know can be found on geekhack.

>>60999811
you can get tons of consumer goods directly from china that are just fine, just don't be a retard and don't buy anything that goes in your body or that requires 100% reliability

>>60999868
I have experience with Filco with Browns (typing right now on an almost-10-year-old one), and with Blues on other boards, but not with Blues in a Filco.
With respect to Blues, I have used them on a board (I believe a cheap ol' Rosewill) and they were solid enough. Not wobbly. I have also used them on a friend's "gamer" keyboard of some sort or another, and they were noticeably wobbly, but at the time I remember blaming his custom keycaps for that.

Might be a lemon, because:
A. Not all Blues feel that way.
B. I can't imagine Filco not having worked out how to make Blues feel good after all these years, and having success with other switch types.

>>60999911
>that are just fine
Many counterfeit goods are "just fine" until they stop working after exactly 7 months of use. By the way, they only had a 6 month warranty, lel.

>>60999911
>you're looking for Hasu's alternate HHKB controller, everything you need to know can be found on geekhack.
Beautiful. Thank you. Looks like I have to make or buy his little controller, which is awesome, but does represent and additional expense. Something to think about, at least.

>>60996711
bumping

Can anybody comment on how are gateron green switches? I'm kind of considering replacing my outemu blues for gateron greens.

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My LEDs are dying aren't they?

what's the cheapest 60% that's worth the money

So my rk61 is completely fucked but all in all it served me for a few months and was a good intro to chinkshit keyboards as well as being some good soldering practice for a complete beginner.

Right now i am waiting for
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mechanical-Keyboard-Drevo-Gramr-84-Keys-Wired-Gaming-Keyboard-White-Backlit-Gamer-Red-Switch-OUTEMU-Switches/32754807683.html

with

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Cool-Jazz-Thick-pbt-84-side-printed-Keycap-High-wear-resistance-For-OEM-Profile-Cherry-MX/32811093088.html

If it would turn out the keyboard has a similar life length to the rk61 but i like the layout i'll just buy a better 84-key mech.

>>60998046
They had clears that were clones of cherry clears but reddit got mad at them, so gateron changed it to the exact opposite of cherry clears just to appease them

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Gonna get pic related, I think. I've done a fair bit of researching and I found this to be a pretty solid option. It'll be my first mechanical keyboard since I'm currently using that razer chicklet one. Thoughts?

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823816075&ignorebbr=1

>>61000815
>$169.99
WTF??
why? for that price you can get a cheap korean custom with more features and better build quality

How big of a jump is gate to brown to cherry clears? Never tried stiff switches before

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vote for potato

https://www.massdrop.com/vote/Best-keyboard-lightshow-RGB-mechanical

>>61000982
about 30g

>>61000999

voted

>>60996316
What's the cheapest backlit keyboard? Membrane or Mechanical doesn't really matter.

>>61000982
>>61001006
Fuck auto correct gat browns

Just got this WASD 6-Key Cherry MX Switch Tester https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AZQKCD4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_t9Cszb6GNJJB7
Probably will return after I decide, how helpful are switch testers? Or will typing be a completely different experience?

GMK keycaps look like they're all just ABS plastics. Are they worth it or do I go back to looking for PBT modifiers?

where can I get a small keyboard with cherry clears?
I can only find stuff with clones or browns and browns succ

How bad are topres? Do they really get the nasty kind of rubber dome bounciness after you type a few ten thousands of words on them?

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So I've heard horror stories about off-brand Cherry (compatible) stabilizers.

How are the clear ones you see around (pic related)?

Is clipping the stabs that much of a must?

gateron black master race, done with that cherry mx shiet

>>61001193
wait for massdrops, desu senpai or check mechanical keyboards?

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hi, I am very autistic, which is better color layout? any suggestions?

>>61001526
semantic layout is best.
one colour for letters (alphas). another for "action" keys (modifiers).
all depends on what you have assigned to those keys.
or just make it all one colour.

>>60998715
There's this guy who made replica model Fs, you can pick one up for a bit over $300. By replica, I mean he did his best to make them as good as the originals.

However the guy's a poorfag and was only able to pay the factory for a limited time run, so orders close at the end of this month I believe. Hopefully the chinks will seize the opportunity to make more, but if they don't then things will go back to being shit for spring lovers.

>>61000372
This, I'm interested too

>>60996953
Wait, 2 FN keys, one in the Capslock's place?
Also, that case is ugly. What's with those screws?

>>60997432
No, and same reason why I don't bother trying Dvorak: It's a bitch when you have to use other people's computers, which happen to me quite a bit.

>>60996953
Where's my standard backspace version, I don't want this split backspace shit

>>60997614
Anyone else have a problem with the Spacebar in Magicforce boards? I compared with a TADA68 Gateron Brown, and the MF's spacebar was janky as hell.

>>60997727
Pretty good? Not a lot of complaints really.

>>61001886
It's programmable and comes with keycaps for caps lock, ctrl or fn. Don't be a moron.

>>60998292
>Gateron Blue
Not exactly a good choice tbqh, man.

>>60996724
It's a rubber dome with a better build quality and more reliable key presses, of course.

>>61000372
In general, green is similar to blue but stiffer.
Gateron Green is very similar to Cherry in my exp.

>>61000668
Poker 2.

>>61001364
Topres are similar to Phish (the band).
Either you love them to bits or you hate them with a passion.

>>60996711
anyone?

>>61001364
Haven't used a rubberdome in years, but at least I didn't immediately hate Topres like I would with normal rubberdomes. After a week to break it in and adapt, I thought it was bretty gud, though probably not an extra $50 over Cherry prices good.

>>61001916
tada68 is just that good, normal mechs pale in comparison

>>60996711
Leopold FC660M

>>60996711
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Tada68-Mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-Dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils-enjoypbt-keycap-cherry-profile/2230037_32807055607.html

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>>61001392
They're trash that rattle, so clipping won't do shit, and if I remember correctly, they come clipped already anyway.

If you really want clear stabs, you'll have to get the overpriced Zealios shit that's $40, and they only come in PCB mounted (though it has screw-ins).

Or just get Costar stabs like everyone else. Though if you're like me and hate having to fuck with them when you change keycaps, just get Cherry and clip/lube them.

>>61000843
that's 169.99 Canadian

Also, would those korean customs have backlighting and the same metal build quality?

>>61002421
Yes, even basic chink shit has the same metal build quality as the corsair and back lighting. Its nothing to wright home about. As a matter of fact you can get corsair knockoffs with the same case for around 60 us dollars.

>>61000815
>I've done a fair bit of researching
>I found this to be a pretty solid option
anon...

>>61000815
lol if you're retarded enough to consider buying one then go for it. You are Canadian after all

>>61002290
In a way, I'm glad it is that good, considering I paid twice the price for the TADA instead of the MF.

>>61001060
>>>/csg/

>>61001078
Go to your friends house and borrow their mkb instead.

>>61001183
Dunno about you, PBT all the way for me. Doesn't get shiny as fast as ABS (like 1 week) with use.

>>61001183
PBT is softer then ABS so that's why I prefer it.

>>61001060
https://www.amazon.com/Mechanical-Keyboard-68-Keys-Magicforce-Qisan/dp/B01ABUJ2KM

>>60999868

I have a Filco Majestouch, a really old one maybe 6-7 years old with Cherry MX Blues, no wobble very solid. Maybe something has happened in last few years with their build quality.

>>60999868
according to some geekhack users, cherry has replaced their molds with new ones, and filco would be one of the first to get the newest switches, so maybe it's that? or maybe you're just not used to them idk

How do gat browns feel/compare to cherry mx white (milk) ?
Getting a tada68 but not sure on the switches, really sad they don't offer gat greens or cherry whites, so I'm leaning towards browns, help me pls.

>>61002940
Can't say anything about CMX white.

However gat browns all day > CMX brown. They're just smooth as fuck man.

From a CMX brown user.

>>61002940
gat blue would be more similar to green/white, but gat brown is good too if you don't want the click

>>61003076
Already have a board with cherry blues, what I want is cmx white tactility, since there isn't a clicky equivalent.

Is the rosewill rk a bit of a meme?
It seems like it should be one, but is it actually any good?

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I currently own a Thermaltake Meka g1 with Cherry MX black switches.
Is a model from 2011, so I'm curious about how it performs against recent models pricing between $50-$100 for gaming.
I know it's kinda personal, but where I live there aren't any places where I could test another mechanical keyboard.

>>61003203
it probably performs just fine. put meme keycaps on it if you want an upgrade

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Big-Carbon-108-125-Key-PBT-Cherry-Original-Height-Keycap-White-Dye-Sublimated-Japanese-version-Keycap/32815773322.html

>>61003181
Rosewill are usually the cheapest full-size board that uses Cherry switches you can find.

>>61003336
Not anymore. Gold whatever tech is cheaper, but they only ship to the EU and parts of Asia

>>61003365
>only ship to the EU and parts of Asia
So nowhere that matters.

>>61002012
It's not like they had a cherry option

Anyone have an ergodox? Is it just a meme?

>>60998375
i think they just print the boxes like that to be prepared in case they add those options in the future

My tada68 should be here this week

which keycaps should I get for it

>>61003461
the stock keycaps are already good tho

>>61003469
Thats what I hear, I've never used one.

If I wanted some colour though where can I get keycaps that are of similar quality?

>>61003484
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Cmyw-keyboarded-sculpture-24-key-mechanical-keyboard-keycaps-CMYW/32677382401.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/NPKC-Blank-121-Keys-Cherry-Profile-PBT-Keycap-ANSI-ISO-layout-For-Cherry-MX-Switches-Mechanical/32750162619.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/139-Key-PBT-Cherry-Keycap-Set-cherry-profile-for-xd60-xd64-eepw84-xd84-zz96-rs96-rs68/32816292934.html

could also experiment with dyeing the stock keycaps

>>61003533
thanks anon

>>61003562
check these too

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/enjoypbt-pbt-24key-keyboard-keycaps-CMYK-Dye-Sub-Keycap-Set/32729606232.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/enjoypbt-pbt-24key-keyboard-keycaps-RGBK-Dye-Sub-Keycap-Set/32731443507.html

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>>60998916
it's at the same fucking store, how hard it is?

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>>60996953
I don't like it. At all. I don't like their standard keyboard layout. It comes with some extra keycaps and it's fully programmable but you can't change where on the boards the keys are placed.

Wouldn't buy it.

>>61004689
yeah i don't like it either

>>61004689
Yeah, it's shitty. If you're going to offer single layout plates, at least have it so you can choose what layout plate you want like winkeyless do. Making people spend additional money to get a universal plate from a third-party vendor is just dumb.

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>>61004689
>non-standard layout
>still has that fucking gap
why

Tada68 browns + alu case or ducky shine 6?

>>61005605
Tada unless you want fancy-ass lights

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lasered cherry pbt
cheap & feels good

>>61005611

I don't but I'm wary of buying chink shit from ali, what is kbdfans return policy anyways? Or warranty?

>>61005664
just forget about returning anything to china, the shipping would be too expensive, kbdfans has a good reputation, if they somehow fuck up your order they will probably try to fix it, like send a missing keycap or whatever, and you don't need a warranty because a mechanical keyboard will last for a very long time and if you fuck something up the warranty would be void anyway and you can repair it yourself

>>61005664
Yeah this basically >>61005902

Whats the situation on keyboard cables

Where can I get a decent coiled cable from. Are coiled cables a meme

>Budget
less than $100
>Location (continent at least)
norway
>Preferred switch type
gateron Black
>Layout
iso preferably
>Form factor
something with arrow keys doesnt matter too much as long as its relatively small.
>Backlight
preferably
>Previous/current keyboards
shitty wireless logitech keyboard

Is the alu case for the tada68 worth it?

>>61006275
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Tada68-Mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-Dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils-enjoypbt-keycap-cherry-profile/2230037_32807055607.html

>>61001364
Topre stiffens over time and will eventually be unusable

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Look what I just found

Should I fall in the ortholinear or the Model M meme?

>>61006469
Give it some love a la 8-bit guy style.

Kinda pissed that the trend for 65% is following the style of 60% ala tada68 and not that of varmillo or magicforce.. why does everyone wants their keys to be all squished together?

>>61006592
>ortholinear on a non-split keyboard
retarded
model m would be the less retarded meme

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>>61006694
because it looks far better, and is also very comfy, not to mention any good keycap set will support that kinda layout.

How different would it feel going from CMX Black to Gaterons brown?

Is gaming still good on browns?

>>61006703
Why is retarded?

Hello /mkg/ guy from last thread asking info on ergo clears.

so here's 2 things I learned from doing. A bit of research and asking around. Please correct if I'm wrong
-62g/67g ergo clears, numbers are referring to bottom out force
-bottom out force of mx clears are around 90g and actuation 67g

With that in mind
-does anyone know an estimate of actuation force for 67g ergo clears?
-I know some here told me ergos are a lighter mx clears is it really the difference of 23g for bottom out force?
-a wasd switch tester is coming later today with mx clears how would this give me a good idea of what to expect on the stiffness of clears(so I can safely assume whatever I feel with the cleats will be much lighter when I use 67g ergos) Or is typing a comepletely a different experience?

>>61006856
gateron browns are fine

the only reason you have to do this cherry mx clear trick (lighter springs + lube) is because cherry mx brown sucks

Is the Tada68 really worth €60 more than a magic force 68?

MF68 is €40 including shipping, while the tada is €100 without shipping.

>>61006911
while i agree with you 100% that gat browns are very good, I just dont see the point of spending on a new kb + an alt set for my keycaps if im just gonna use gat browns again. Which is why im researching as much as i can before getting this and the though of a stiffer brown does interest me, but just not too stiff

>>61007262
it's a personal choice how much you want to spend, but for a high end keyboard tada68 has a great bang for the buck, you get gateron switches and thick pbt dye sub keycaps and it's programmable

when it comes to magicforce 68 a keyboard enthusiast would ideally get the gateron version for around €60 plus better keycaps for around $30-50+, but if you don't want to spend more than €40 then it's still a pretty decent mechanical keyboard

tada68 is $99 with shipping here btw
https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Tada68-Mechanical-keyboard-gateron-swtich-65-layout-Dye-sub-keycaps-cherry-profils-enjoypbt-keycap-cherry-profile/2230037_32807055607.html

>>61007498

Yeah, but that'll take a whole month.

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>>61006711
I'm considering trying to 3D print some costar stabilizers, using a 3D printer that can get 0.2mm precision. Do you think they'll be good enough, or will they just fall apart? I'm mostly worried about the inserts

>>61007581
Anon. It's a keyboard that you'll probably be using for 5+ years. What makes more sense

>use a rubberdome for 3-4 weeks and then have a great keyboard indefinitely
>use a rubberdome for ~1 week and then have a keyboard that's only OK indefinitely

>>61007602
printers with that precision can typically manage cherry stems, I dunno if it's doable but I'd say it's definitely worth trying.

>>61000815
I've got the same , They are fairly decent keyboards.

>>61007621

I guess you are right, though I'm wondering whether I should pay extra for the aluminium base or not. Got a cm storm quickfire atm, and that one has a plastic base and I guess feels sturdy enough.

>>61007734
I have a K70 and the metal base is worth it.

can switch testers, accurately represent the sound of a switch? or are there more factors to consider?

>>61008098
Keycaps, metal plates, o-rings and case design all effect the noise of a switch.

>>61008193
this

>>61008193
>>61008210
I see cause just got a switch tester and i was surprised how quiet cherry brows are compareddddddd to gat browns. guess i cant really compare.

BUT im not sure if its jsut mine or if its normal for gat browns (i used same pbt keycap for my kb, magicforce, and the tester), but the gat browns seems to make a sound after the key rebounds up?

anyway on another note greens feel REALLY good. is there a switch similar to green without the clicky?

>>61007648
Yeah, that's what I figured, I just don't want to end up with a broken-off stem stuck in one of my caps. I'll post pictures here when I get around to doing it.

>>61008287
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/4cb1mz/photos_turns_out_gateron_started_making_a_tactile/

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>>61008287
Well gateron switches have a higher pitch, but generally thin ABS keycaps, flimsy aluminium plates, and floating keycap design all make switches sound louder. Cherry browns are normally quieter then blues, but the razor keyboard has all those so its louder

>>61008335
>all those fucking sycophants sucking up to zeal
FUCK plebbit, not even once

>>61008344
>Our testing process started out in the PCWorld video studios, where PCWorld Senior Editor Jason Cross and I took turns typing a sample paragraph and recording peak volume levels for each keyboard.
how scientific /s
they probably slammed the keys like shit and they only tested one brown switch keyboard

>>61008415
Its still true tho. If you want you can go to ripster on reddit for some keyboard science! :D

>>60997903
>rubber domes
>>60997903
>rubber domes
you retards don't understand how Topre switch works. Rubber is there to provide you a part of the smooth resistance. Rubber dome keyboards use rubber to make contact with the PCB. Topre does no such thing.

>>61007786

The base is always metal, I was talking about the case actually.

Did anyone here compare the tada68 in a plastic and aluminum case?

>>61008335
wait i thought clears were linear? who even carries tactile gateron clears? last time i checked with qisan at least, their gateron clears are linear

>>61008515
>paying $200 for something that feels like rubber dome is okay because it uses a capacitative switch

>>61008550
There were tactile gateron clears, but zeal got pissy at them so now they're 35g linear

>>61004494
I just ordered the PBT blank keycaps you posted on your previous comment from KBDFans. They feel quite well made, the plastic is thick and the surface of the keys is quite nice.

Mine came with a red ESC key and 3 spherical shaped keycaps , 2 for the F and J keys and one for the 5 in the numpad.

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Alright, gonna step into the world of mechanical for the first time. I'm pretty much set on the Leopold FC900R Black PBT w/ front keycaps and Blue Cherry MX switches for reasons not entirely known to myself desu (well-reviewed it seems, want a 10-key for sure, don't need backlighting, like the idea of front print instead of top since I don't look at the keyboard to type anyway) but I'm so used to chicklet keys that I wonder what the transition to blue cherry mx will be like.

Also do these things every go on sale? $120 is not a lot but if I can save money, why not right?

Here's my template in case there's a better option for me:
>Budget
$120 max really
>Location (continent at least)
Ohio
>Preferred switch type
Blue from what I can tell. I don't game a lot and I love typing. Have a 140 WPM with a chiclet keyboard if that matters.
>Layout
ANSI I guess
>Form factor
full-size (numpad)
>Backlight
Not necessary
>Previous/current keyboards
Using a fucking AmazonBasics Bluetooth chiclet keyboard because my laptop's keyboard took a shit after I accidentally spilled some water on it. Used a Microsoft ergonomic keyboard for a while before that.

>>61008634
Received* not ordered, they did take about a month to arrive.

>>61008515
The feel is the same as any decent rubber dome slider on PCB. It's only the actuation distance that changes. In fact, I have an old BTC 5100C that uses a little capacitive puck under the dome for much the same effect of actuation at the buckle.

Foam and foil is capacitive as well as model F, z leafs and other capacitive spring switches. It doesn't change the fact that topre is glorified rubber dome. It's where all the feel comes from.

>>61008572
>that feels like
But it feels better than any other switch. And it feels NOTHING like rubber domes because the actuation doesn't happen at the bottom.

You're obviously some jaded poorfag retard who never even tried Topre so you're hating on a thing you cannot have.

Stay mad! Stay poor! Stay retarded!

>>61008635
Go for the leopold

>>61008600
yeah that's what i thought

anyway yah, its weird didint notice this until now, these gatb rowns on this mf68 def have a sound once they rebound up to normal position, is it the kb material thats doing this? cause i am using SP PBT so not some cheap pbt

Magicforce is

>>61008717
Magicforce has a floating keycap design and a thin aluminuim top plate (theres also a plastic one) that would contribute to the noise

>>61008753
Gay

>>61008755
i see i see thank you very much for the info

>>61008686
You sound like a mad poorfag who feels the need to try to justify a stupid purchase, even though you're the only one in this thread doing so. A richfag won't care if he's the only kid on the block with his richfag memeboard.

>>61006694
Theres to Clueboard coming up on Assdrop again. Looks like it's actually going to be a good deal, but we'll see when it goes live.

>>61008686
dell quietkey > topre if you want a fancy rubber dome and it's $5

>>60997037
>>60996953
it's like someone took a 75%, fucked it up into a wanna be 60%, but without the advantage of easily swap-able keysets on a regular 60% of which there are many already on the market for $100 or less. so what is the point of this?
>it's programmable
so are a ton of keyboards.

>>61009298
The white fox is popular becuase it was the first of its kind. 4 years later and a lot has changed. People just buy it for the name

>>61009239
>dell quietkey
>$5
bullshit, you would be very lucky to find it, thrift shops know how to use google, and $5 is next to nothing with the inflation in the current year

>>61009361
meh. I got 3 in like the last year from the same place for about $5 each. but then it was a thrift place run by a bunch of teenage minorities. I also got a bunch of amazing leather jackets there and the most I paid was $30. I got a damn neo trench-coat for $8.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Computer-Keyboard-Dell-Quiet-Key-RT7D5JTW-Beige-Wired-PS-2-Tested-Working-Clean-/112432476581

this seller overcharges for shipping but for burger lads who want a fullsize board it might be interesting to try

>>61009448
nice, but it's not as easy as ordering one off of amazon, just saying

>>61009596
No thx. My uni has several of these keyboards and they feel like shit to type on.

>>61008635
>>61008708
You know what? After thinking about it a bit more, I think the only reason I liked having a numpad wasn't really for the numbers, but for having a secondary enter key that was closer to my mouse. If I get a tenkeyless, that'll solve the reach problem and save me $5. And if for some reason I decide in the future I need a 10-key, I can just buy a USB numpad I guess.

So now I'm thinking going the FC750R instead of the FC900R. Same thing just w/o the 10-key, right?

>Budget
$250-300
>Location (continent at least)
Australia
>Preferred switch type
Blue or Brown
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
Not required, but would be nice
>Previous/current keyboards
Ducky Shine 3 & 5

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>>61006694
because it's more ergonomic. for regular typing it doesn't make much of a difference but if you're a mouse autist like me you want not only your letters totally centered with your monitor but you also want as equal arm/mouse space on both sides as possible. so fullsized is a no-no, even tenkeyless has too much on one side for me. 75% and lower is optimal for centered and not hitting your mouse on the side of your keyboard. while also having a numpad/control pad of some kind on your left. so left, center, and right are all equally spaced and centered with enough buffer for movement on the left and right. not that magiforce is very wide, but it's only one vertical set of keys smaller than a small tenkeyless.

>Budget
$150
>Location (continent at least)
Brazil
>Preferred switch type
MX Blue
>Layout
Ansi
>Form factor
Full-size
>Backlight
RGB
>Previous/current keyboards
Membrane and laptop keyboards

>>61009656
Or get the leopold 980m since its about the same width as a tkl while still having a numpad.

>>61009748
Why do you have so many Ducky keyboards? Why not get something with a different switch. With that budget you can get a korean custom

>>61009748
>already had two mech kbs
>still wants fullsize layout
how about something smaller

>>61006113
those thick coiled cables are a meme. I just get thin ones from china, great for a portable cable.

>>61009782
I was eyeballing that one, but I don't think I'd like the smaller shift key and the cramped layout. One thing I hated about my laptop's keyboard (And this bluetooth one I'm presently confined to) is the lack of breathing room. At the same time, I want to reduce space, short of going for a 60% (I do enjoy the F key functionality).

Plus, if I wanted to swap out keycaps, it'd be a lot easier with the 750R it seems.

Im thinking of purchasing a logitech g610 with reds for 58 $ .
Do you guys think it is worth it for my first mechanical ?

>>61010003
any particular reason you want reds?

heres a tip, if you're in US and have amazon prime, go buy a switch tester and return it after you've decided what type of switch you want and come back here

>>61010003
Reds are the worst

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>>61006856
autist here, switch tester just arrived with mx clear. Yah just mashed that shit for like a minute(bottoming out and not bottoming out) and the back of my hand def feels tired.

will my experience with 67g ergos be more or less the same?

>>61010046
he could just go to a best buy and type on actual keyboards

>>61010046
Unfortunately I in a live in european country. Plus , I have a very low budget to spend .

I was thinking of going for a motospeed ck104 at ~45 $ .

Ive been using a MS membrane keyboard for about 5 years or so.

Im afraid of blue switches becoming irrititating at some time in the future

>>61010166
yeah cause best buy has a lot of different switch selections

>>61010191
fair enough, coming from membrane it will take some time getting used to as reds are really light. It feels like my fingers are falling when i type on reds

>>61010253
yep after watching tons of comparison videos ive realized that.

However , im gonna a visit a local shop just for the hell of testing the feeling with reds/blues.

I have to admit that blues' clicky sound makes me orgasm but as i said i am not sure if this will be the case for everyday use.

anyway thanks for help

>>61010152
67g ergos are heavier than standard cherry clears, if anything. If you have wimpy fingers then get browns, it's what they're for.

>>61010191
I think blue switches won't become irritating, in fact you'll eventually just tune it out

t. buckling spring user

>>61010340
honestly once you get the budget and still want clicky, get greens. it feels and sounds so much better than blues. i feel like its clicks are lower pitched than blues which makes them less annoying

>>61010575
not so much the fingers its my extensors that hurt by the look of it. i have trump hands

and 62g ergos are pretty much just browns with a more pronounced bump right?

>>61010340
if you want a real clicky switch, get matias click. Deeper click sound and feels much more tactile.

>>61001526
I think the bottom is better as the double width red key top roy two in from RHS is greedy. I can see the right hand pinky appreciating the top right red key rather than wankling to the left to hit such a waste of real estate.
Burn me for witchcraft here but was is the pace bar so huge. The two hands down (xcuse the pun) musculature movement is your thumbs converging on 'big mommas house' ; well big momma doesn't need six buttons' width.

>>61011175
Well that was just a mock up I did using paint and I think max keyboard maker and just estimated the sizes for alu68 which has similar layout as tada. I think they have 1.25u mods at the right and 1u at left?

>>61011175
i agree on the huge spacebar. i want to see smaller spacebars and split spacebars. in this day and age you don't need to stick with the "standard" 6.25u spacebar. if you build a reasonably popular product, chinks will make keycaps for it. 3u spacebars are pretty common already. you can use 2.25-2.75u spacebars (more common on ~40% layout keyboards) so people can use shift keys as an alternative to convex spacebars.

>>61010575
>67g ergos are heavier than standard cherry clears
No they aren't. Clears bottom out near 90g

What does MKG think of these caps?
I'm looking for something that doesn't need to be modded to keep the LEDs from shining through the tops of a white set.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/mechanical-keyboard-thick-PBT-keycap-cherry-mx-OEM-height-side-print-grey-white-similar-granite-classic/32711894266.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_4_10152_10065_10151_10208_10068_10130_10136_10137_10060_10155_10062_437_10154_10056_10055_10054_10059_303_100031_10099_10103_10102_10096_10052_10053_10142_10107_10050_10051_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10178_10110_519_10111_10112_10113_10114_10182_10078_10079_10073_10123_10189_142,searchweb201603_50,ppcSwitch_7&btsid=7274d509-f5fa-4eeb-94dd-fb7f6d1b263b&algo_expid=9907f6c4-2ecb-414a-a63b-0ebe2f878d22-1&algo_pvid=9907f6c4-2ecb-414a-a63b-0ebe2f878d22

>>61007581
Order direct from kbdfans and they have free dhl shipping, takes about a week to arrive

>>61002408
where can you get genuine Cherry stabilizers?

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I have a hhkb and I want to add some Cherry MX stems but I can't find any compatible keycaps (the split right shift)

Can anyone help me out? I really want either blue and white keys or just black

>>60996316
>Budget
$300
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
Blues/Greens
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
Yes
>Previous/current keyboards
Corsair K70, various membrane boards

Would like something relatively minimalist, no big logos or whatever. The WASD V2 is interesting but not backlit, and I never hear anything about their boards. Can get one with GMK honeywell though, which is neat.

whats with the clueboard hype? They're so expensive and you have to diy anyway?

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>>60996316
poorfags

>>61013452
you can wait for KBDfans to make more topre colors and mods. They'll be blank though.

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>>61013608
poorfag

>>61013608
anyone else hate the look of these cases? Too rounded off, I prefer leopold or something.

>>61013648
I hate the look of the realforce in general.

>>61012878
Firstly sanitize your links. Secondly just take some aluminum foil and stuff it into the bottom of your keycap. That will prevent the light from shinning through

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>>61013621
poorfaggot

>>61013717
this is fascinating, is it a modern keyset made to look like it has a science application of some kind, or was it at some point actually hooked up to a computer which was dedicated to (I'm guessing) physics computation or something?

>>61013717
These only ever became wanted because of webwits unhealthy obsession over them. They are inferior in every possible way to beamsprings and honeywells.
>>61013760
They were keyboards used on the MIT lisp machines.

tada68 vs ikbc f108?

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I have pic related and I want to get some new caps where do all you fucks get these meme keycaps

>>61013943
I get mine from aliexpress and massdrop.

>>61013943
Make sure they're PBT this time.

>>61013799
They're just microswitch. There's other nice spherical cap microswitch boards on ebay right now for like a hundred bucks. Microswitch is nice because you can hook it up to a teensy at least.

Reviving my Harris capacitive board was a little more complicated. Was pretty cheap though.

>>61013984
send some pics mate?

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>>61013992
Finally finished super fine sanding and repolishing all my caps. Retrobright is nice but it also fucking sucks to clean up after if it's not done 100% exactly right.

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>>61014194
wow stunning board mate, I wish more of this stuff was posted here instead of the constant cherry / cherry clone and topre shit

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>>61014236
>Dat 3278

You know, I saw somebody had a 5251 beamspring go up the other day on ebay for BIN $200. I bet it lasted less than ten minutes. It's crazy how much the prices have jumped the last couple years. Makes me wished I'd bought one sooner.

Also a picture of the board on my desk where you can see the edge wear a little better out of the natural light where someone rested their wrists for decades. I need to get around to stripping the rubberized coating off my mouse too. Love the cheap little thing, but that stuff wears so quick.

which clicky keys give the best tactile feeling/resonant click?

I use blues atm because they're entry level and I bought the hype but they feel mushy as shit when actually typing. Does the actuation force difference of greens actually make them feel better? More tactile? Or are cherry switches not even the way to go. I've heard very good things about matias.

>>61014420
Things with big and open mechanisms like buckling springs.

>>61013717
>rub out

>>61013890
>non-pleb layout vs fullsize shit
tada68

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What does bolt modding your model ms really do? Mine is lightly used and doesnt have any key chatter or wobble so so is there any other benefits besides fixing those problems?

>>61013943
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Big-Carbon-108-125-Key-PBT-Cherry-Original-Height-Keycap-White-Dye-Sublimated-Japanese-version-Keycap/32815773322.html

>>61014414
That board is in absolutely pristine condition though considering its age, I'm jealous
>>61014420
Capacitive buckling springs are the most tactile switches I've ever used.

>Budget
£150 or so
>Location
United Kingdom
>Preferred switch type
Not sure, only used browns, they seemed quite squishy
>Layout
ISO
>Form factor
100% with rewind/play/pause/fast forward keys as bonus
>Backlight
Don't care either way
>Previous/current keyboards
Was using a Corsair K70 that I spilled water on, liked it and if I don't get a response will probably just get another one.

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>>61014480
You should have seen how yellowed it was when I got it. The seller used white balance adjustment and the keys were still this color. I was lucky that a ton of the case marks were just old pen and pencil from people using the flat parts to write on. It used to be connected to some kind of hospital mainframe apparently. It had a big sticker that said outpatient on the bottom. It was still in service when it was pulled this year. Now that's long term functional.

Other than a shit ton of dust and yellowing of the ABS though, it was honestly like you said in pretty great shape.

And though it took for fucking ever to clean and relube all the switch plungers, they feel almost new. The only thing that's stabalized is the spacebar but nothing binds if you press it on the edge. Super pingy board too because of the both the massive stem springs and the capacitive leafs that act like springs.

>>60996316
Jesus that must have come from the most slapped together printer.

It's like a million monkeys on typewriters but instead of Shakespeare this is some shit piled in the corner.

This is not poor edition, this is dumbass edition.

>>61014762
It's fine. He should have just spent a couple bucks for a sheet of glass and taped some sandpaper to it so he could smooth out the outside of the case.

>>61014594
I can imagine, my Apple extended keyboard was practically orange thanks to it being exposed to sun light for the past 20 odd years. Unfortunately with them though they use Alps switches, and once Alps get dirty you're basically fucked. No matter how much sanding, lubing, or cleaning you do you can't get them to feel as good as they did when brand new. Your board on the other hand is probably in the best condition possible now thanks to the amount of work you put in to it.
If you have any pictures of the refurbishment process you should definitely post them on Deskthority

>>61013890
Please help, gotta decide today, getting either for pretty much the same price so only thing I want to know is which is better in overall quality.

>>61006385
Shit. How long do they last?

>>61014895
Not sure exactly, pro 2 owners have already measured 45g domes that have stiffened over 55g

>>61013799
>honeywells
the use honeywell hall effect microswitches tho.

>>61014474
It doubles the value of the keyboard. A normal SSK is like 250 bucks, while a bolt modded SSK is 500

>>61015023
I thought they were built from the ground up by tom knight?

>>61015060
It was made by symbolics

>>61014474
Does nothing on a tight board. Saves loose boards. Also increases the value. My unicomp built in 2007 is just fine, but my 87 IBM needed bolt modding and felt like the unicomp when done.

>>61015068
So they're really not that special afterall? That's even more disappointing.

>>61015035
lol what, his is in good condition so it would be worth about the same

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>>61015096
well their computer parts sell for thousands of dollars. A fully intact LISP machine can easily reach the 6 figure mark

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>>61015096
I always find it funny how people sell something for $1000+ and not include free shipping

>>61006856
From what I know ergo clears are clears with a different spring. The spring probably depends on where you buy them from or if you do it yourself.
Clears apparently are supposed to have the gradual high bottom out force to subtly get you to stop bottoming out. Obviously some people don't like this which is why ergo clears exist.
There are also Zealios which are manufactured by Gateron and are supposed to be like clears with a different spring and lubed. Apparently very smooth and tactile. (You can find a Zelios keyswitch tester on AliExpress).

>>61015179
lmao ikr, like surely getting over a grand for a keyboard they probably don't even use would make it possible for them to fund the shipping costs themselves. But yeh anyway, these are probably more collectors items than keyboard enthusiasts.

Has anyone tried the Gold/Bronze switches? Thoughts?

>>61015179
ebay is cancer, if anything you'd mark up the shipping to save on fees, and i don't see the problem, if you pay $1xxx for the keyboard you can pay $18.22 for shipping

Quick question. Are there any switches are cheaper than clear Cherrys but feel the same? Never tried Gateron before.

>Get a job helping to manage a shitty warehouse
>All the computers have mechanical Mod Ms
wtf

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>>60996316
What do you think guys?

>>61015350
What is a good color scheme with the miami? I can't seriously think of one unless that keyboard is baby blue or pink.

>>61015350
congrats, you somehow made the donkey look less like a tonka truck.

>>61015367
white

>>61015343
There are no cheap equivalents to cherry clears... yet.

>>61015367
silver/aluminium

>>61015367
Purple

>>61015350
Speaking of donkeys, what are some good keycaps I can get for the white version?

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>>61015491
pic

>>61015350
>>61015506
That keyboard is way too ugly. I don't even think its possible to make it look good without modding the case

>>61015506
remove the yellow things and you have basically a plain white/aluminium keyboard

>>61015506
that actually looks pretty decent, too bad no gat browns for the white version yet.

>>60996316
Is there anywhere I can get (cherry) dvorak keycaps which aren't like $100?

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>>61014482
anyone?

>>61015906
yeah. get some chink DSA keycaps for 50 bucks then re-arrange them

>>61015914
Get a Ducky One and reprogram the extra keys to do that

>>61000815
The brushed aluminum is a major pain in the ass when it comes to cleaning it. The dust gets stuck in the grooves that give the aluminum that brushed effect. I recently got Corsair Strafe instead of K70, got it with Red switches, for me the matte plastic is much easier to keep clean.

Guys. I bought a K70 Lux RBG a little while ago. Within a few a week or so, the keyboard started squeaking like crazy. I read you can lube the stabilizers up with lithium grease. Tried that.... well the space bar stuck in the 'sunk' position. As in after I did that, it's permanently stuck down somehow. Rendering the spacebar, and effectively the keyboard useless.

I picked up a Ducky One after this fiasco and I've been loving it.

Now my question is, who the hell will repair a K70? It'd just be nice to get it going again in case I want to switch back to it from time to time or even sell it, since it just sits in my closet. A week old keyboard I somehow fucked up.

Mechanicalkeyboards.com won't touch it, they only work on keyboards they sell.

Corsair won't touch it after I was honest and told them I'd lubed it with lithium grease.

I know I'm a fucking idiot, but I kinda want my K70 working again. Suggestions?

>>61016283
gee i don't know man. pull it back up again?

>>61016310

Wish it were that simple. That didn't work. Forgot to mention I fucked it up even more by trying to fix it. It needs a new space bar, and new stabilizers and possibly new space bar switches. I'd post a picture but i'm too lazy.

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You can actually remove the yellow part, but then you lose your feet stand
>>61015687
idk man that guy with the keycaps looks pretty good.

Are there any decent keyboards with either a detachable numpad or numpad on the "wrong" side? Shit's useful but 80% is comfy

>>61016283
how did you "lube" the switch?

>>61017110

I didn't purposely lube the switch. I just used a little on the stabilizer bar. I don't know what the hell happened but the keyboard just sunk down after that, and never popped back up again. I got frustrated and fucked it up even more. Now I have a non functioning K70 that's in perfect condition apart from that.

>>61017110

But to answer your question IIRC I used a little lithium grease on a q-tip and just dabbed it on the stabilizer bar. Maybe the kind I used wasn't plastic safe or something.

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HI LADS

I HAVE PIC RELATED

BY DEFAULT, THE TOP RIGHT TWO BUTTONS ARE PAGEUP/PAGEDOWN AND IF I HIT THE FN BUTTON + THESE TWO ITS HOME/END RESPECTIVELY

IS THERE A WAY I CAN CHANGE THIS TO BE IN REVERSE? IE. BY DEFAULT ITS HOME/END AND IF I HIT FN + THE BUTTON, ITS PAGEUP/PAGE DOWN

THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How do I remove the keys with stabilizers in my poker?

>>61017223
no. should've bought a programmable keyboard

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Long story short:
Moving out to a bigger place, and I'm setting up two additional long desks with PC peripherals for whenever friends (or friends of friends) happen to visit to play PC games on LAN. It happens once or twice a month. Ideally, mouse keyboard, mousepad, monitor, cables, etc are all cable managed and just hanging below the desk ready for their personal PC to plug in.

Keyboard is one of the items. I'd be getting 4 of them, so I'm OK with non-authentic switches, but would prefer if it didn't look like gamer trash. I want it to be relatively good quality, but a low-key appearance.

While I trust my friends enough to not steal shit, I'm still somewhat iffy about letting friends of friends come over, and don't want my peripherals walking away one night. The more LEDs it has and the fancier it looks, the more likely I think someone will want to walk away with it. Peripherals with fixed cables will have the cables locked down below the desk (see pic), and monitor will be wall-mounted, etc.

>Budget
Low. Preferably $50 ~ $60.

>Location (continent at least)
USA.

>Preferred switch type
Doesn't matter, but not rubber dome. I'd think Kailh or Gaterons would work fine. Red/Blue/Brown variants would work fine.

>Layout
Standard ANSI, it's got to be something familiar to people coming over. Tenkeyless or Full size. I think Tenkeyless would be cheaper. It at least still needs function keys since many games have keys bound to those by default.

>Form factor
Fixed cable (will lockdown cables underneath the desk), preferably no floating keycap style, since keycaps are exposed and easy to break off (especially ESC key).

>Backlight
None, preferably.

>Previous/current keyboards
Irrelevant, I wouldn't be using these.

I think a basic looking Rosewill or Filco keyboard would work best, but ironically these are some of the more expensive options around, and when buying 4x every peripheral, even 4x $50 keyboards is $200.

>>61018056
Why not just get $10 rubber domes if you're paranoid about your friends?

>>61018056
Alternatively, I'm just thinking about getting 4x spill resistant rubber dome keyboards for a much lower price. Like the Logitech K120 or something.

Which might be better than a chinese knock off mechanical keyboard, in terms of overall durability.

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>>61018056
Get something like a tomoko for 28 bucks

>>61018237
No reason to spend on quality if it happens so infrequently and with shady friends.

>>61015254
What is this? This is beautiful

>>61018186
Well, like I said I trust my friends enough. We all used to go to a PC cafe that recently closed down 2 months ago. Fun times were had there, but want to do the same thing at my own place, but in a Bring-Your-Own-PC kind of way.

My direct friends I do trust, but if they want to bring 2 other dudes that I don't know, yeah, it might be best that I get something like a Logitech K120 instead, now that I think about.

I think spill resistance would be a bigger factor for dudes bringing sodas into my house than per-key-longevity that I usually get with good mechanical keyboards.

And if they don't like the rubber dome, they can just bring their own keyboard, too.

The idea was that if I supply the peripherals, then they only bring a PC tower, and if they only bring a PC tower, it should be easy as pie to see when someone's leaving with something more than just the PC tower.

Also have a few friends that preferred the PC cafe style as they didn't have to tow all their own shit back and forth. But I think BYOPC is a decent enough tradeoff.

>>61018324

It's not beautiful. It's a bunch of simple geometric shapes.

>>61018344
Simplicity is beautiful. Especially primitive shapes.

>>61018336
Then get a spill resistant mechanical keyboard like >>61018242
They also make a full size version for 9 bucks more

I want a Rama keyboard now

>>61018393
>>61018242
Yeah, this is looking pretty ideal. No name brand, looks sturdy enough. I don't like the island style keycaps as much, but it does look spill resistant with the three passthrough holes for liquids.

>>61018664
floating key style*

wheres the best place to buy a chocolatier keyset
even on /r/mechmarket they rarely pop up, is that my only option?

>Budget
Ideally around $100-130
>Location (continent at least)
USA
>Preferred switch type
Not sure, I suppose something somewhat stiff and clicky?
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
100% (I do casual gaming plus music stuff and like media controls)
>Backlight
RGB
>Previous/current keyboards
Shitty $5 dell keyboard, I've never used a mech before


I was looking at a Logitech g810 and corsair z70 and realized they are likley overpriced due to branding and there may be better options out there. I am aware RGB is seen as meme-y and unpopular at the moment but I like it. I see in the FAQ that corsair is a no-no due to some compatibility issues, and the g810 has proprietary romer-g switches unlike the commonly accepted cherry ones.

>>61018846

additionally, I was drawn to the g810 first because it looks like an actual adult device and not a tryhard gamur toy.

>>61018846
g810 is pretty bad and neither stiff or clicky, get a ducky one with cherry greens.

The James Donkey board came in today. Collection now consists of:

>Unicomp Ultra Classic
>Topre Type Heaven
>Corsair K70 LUX (Cherry MX Speed)
>Ducky One (Cherry MX Red)
>James Donkey 619 (Gateron Brown)

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Got this coming in the mail. How'd I do?

>>61018846
RGB is going to automatically increase the price by $40. That said, the Ducky Shine 6 with Cherry MX Blues would be a great keyboard for you. It even comes with stock PBT keycaps so it'll look good for a long time.

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>>60996316

My Matias Ergo Pro has made me even more autistic. Now I need a board that can tent (it's great) and has soft palm supports (comfy AF). I don't love the wobble of the keys, the fact that they aren't PBT, the fact that they aren't backlit, the fact that I don't have a volume roller and the fact that it's not metal. I REALLY want a volume roller.

I've been out of the keyboard game for a while, can someone recommend a board that can tent and also is better that the Matias in the ways I outlined? I think I'm too far gone to find something I want. :(

>>61019815

I'm looking at the Ducky Shine 6 with Cherry MX Blue now. I realize that the RGB adds $$ but as I think about it, I don't mind shelling out a bit more for a solid keyboard (without proprietary/nonstandard sizes and such like the main brands) which will last me a long time.

I did more digging and found another reddit bottomfeeder guide which listed similar options:

iKBC F87 RGB Double-Shot PBT cherry
Cooler Master MasterKeys Pro cherry
MK Disco TKL RGB kbt black
Rantopad MXX Chroma RGB brown

>>61018797
kbdfans tina?

>Budget
doesnt matter
>Location (continent at least)
america
>Preferred switch type
mx blue
>Layout
ANSI
>Form factor
full size
>Backlight
no preference
>Previous/current keyboards
razer blackwidow ultimate 2013

pls help my keyboard is dying

>>61019979
Leopold FC980M

>>61020007
alright i just bought the white one with mx blues, still open to other options as i am looking to buy more than one anyway

how do I get the FN+Z music player shortcut to work on the magicforce? At the moment all I get is notepad trying to open some .dll file

>>61019979
Why'd you get a Razer keyboard anyway?

>>61019815

I'm really liking this but damn $160 is a lot of cash for a keyboard

Anon that told me about Leopold, thank you.

>>61020154
It's quality of life question.
Does it make you life feel better and withing your means? Buy it.
It doesn't? Stop even thinking about it.

>>61020081
it was 2013 also its pretty good im using it right now but its coming to the end of its lifetime as i have never cleaned it lmao

>>61020206
sameposter, not gonna post a pic but basically the board looks like the bottom of a cheeto bag

sooo yeah

>>61020030
you really can't top that one in full form factor

consider smaller one, it took me a week to adjust for the lack of numpad, almost there for quick number typing

>>61020238
im thinking about buying a pok3r i/ii in white and putting blank pink keycaps on it

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Is there any decent keyboard from Aliexpress? Brown

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My first Mech Keyboard, paid $45.00 cad, how did I do?

Good RGB with cherry mx blues? I was thinking about the ducky shine 5. Should i get the shine 6 or do you guys have other recommendations?

>>61020353

I'm in the same boat as you, after the above advice im looking at:

iKBC F87 RGB - $125
Cooler Master MasterKeys Pro L RGB - $140
Ducky Shine 6 Black PBT - $160

>Budget
150$
>Location
United States
>Preferred switch type
Brown
>Layout
QWERTY
>Backlight
No lights pls
>Previous/current keyboards
Stock Membrane keyboard (dont bully)

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>>61020635
>>61020635
>>61020635

>>61020628
Ducky One with PBT keycaps

>>61020352
Pretty good for a starter board.

>>61016532
pull it hard enough and something should give

>I'd post a picture but i'm too lazy.
c'mon son

>>61016565
you should be able to find compatible round feet on aliexpress. you shouldn't use the flip-out stand anyway, the keyboard should sit flat on the table

>>61015350
nice caps, shitty case. it's not like it's expensive to get minimal looking cases these days, dunno why you went with that.

>>61017223
remap home/end to pageup/pagedn and vice versa. use autohotkey or something

>>61020154
this is cheaper if you don't mind a white frame
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Plum87-gateron-mx-brown-blue-mechanical-keyboard-RGB-backlit-TKL-gaming-keyboard-PBT-keycap-87-tenkeyless/32598358025.html

but really think more about the form factor so you don't regret buying a fullsize keyboard (the main reason i got into mechs in the first place was that i got sick of the bulkiness of my membrane gaming keyboard) and if you plan on upgrading the keycaps, the good keycaps usually don't have shine-through legends and you'd be better off with a pure white backlight or no backlight

>>61014833
Tada has a pretty great reputation for being extremely good quality for its price point.

>>61019829
Build your own. No, unironically, this will be fun and at that level of niche requirements it's also cheaper than trying to find a pre-made one somewhere.