/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>>60416312
>do you know a program I can use to see the health and read write speed of my SSD.
CrystalDiskInfo is generally used for simple health checks and stats about hard drives, may it be HDD or SSDs

Considering between 3.5" and 2.5" hdd.

Is there any torque difference between them (worried they'll vibrate my case)? Audio level?

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Reposting this because there's a new thread, apparently.

Alright, this might sound pretty retarded, but what's the most portable/smallest and efficient build I can make?

I need a PC I can move back and forth between Europe and America only between 2-3 times a year, but I need it to fit in a hand baggage.

Once it has been moved, it would remain put for at least 3 months then move again.

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>>60416670
I should add that I have a 1Tb of the same line and brand from a few years back and I've never heard it do anything near this.

>>60416726
Raijintek metis, but you'll need to mod it.

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>>60416738
>Raijintek Metis
So, sort of an mITX, right? Seems like it could fit on a baggage but just how heavy could this thing end up?
Also, "mod it" in what sense?

>>60416726
>what's the most portable/smallest and efficient build I can make?

what are you trying to do with it?

>>60416814
3D modeling, video editing, development, streaming.

>>60416726
Define smallest. Waht are allowed dimensions?

>>60416726

There's a Linus video I think recently showing 4-5 miniature cases, check it out or just search for it

>>60416786
yeah, mITX.
Mod it by sawing a hole beside the mobo for alternative PSU mounting. You'll need some brakets to push it a bit away from the mobo though, SFF required.
Then saw out some space at the bottom, for intake, and then make some holes for 2x120mm fans. You might also need to remove the fan shroud from your GPU, depending on how large it is.

Other alternatives more or less require AIOs, or tiny CPU coolers.
SG13 is a good alternative if you're ok with going AIO.

hello. temporary build for lagless browsing, watching streams and other media. will build another machine in this case months later. pls rate
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6bbsf8

r5 1600 for 300aud
i5 7500 for 259aud

which one?

>>60416933
correction: case is define MINI C

>>60416846
budget?

>>60416882
It should be able to fit on a 9x14x22 inch baggage so it can be accepted as hand luggage in airports.
(Sorry for the taco English).

>>60416917
I will. Thanks.

>>60416925
I'm new to PC building so I'll have a hard time figuring out what most of this meant.
Will this be able to protect the PC enough so it doesn't get fucked on the first trip?

>>60416968
About $1,000. Counting peripherals.

>>60416943
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ovmxfejvo
https://youtu.be/JypkqwpOtNI?t=8m
The R5 1600 doesn't become the bottleneck (90+% usage) in games and i don't think it ever will for it's whole lifespan because of it's 6 cores.
7500 is cheaper but much much less futureproof, it will fall short very quick, and it already does as the videos show

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>don't want to compromise on any components
>don't want to slave away like a peasant to afford them
Anyone wanna go halfsies on a night raid on an Amazon warehouse?

>>60416933
Looks good to me

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>>60417035
just work you lazy fuck

>>60416997
The modding is just to make it quieter, and properly cool everything.

SG13, requiring an AIO cooler (All-In-One cooler, water cooling), is maybe the better option then. I'm a bit skeptical to AIO coolers though, due to extra noise, and also the fact that they technically could break and leak water... I don't think the water would cause problems in checkin.

>>60416846
A Ryzen build would be perfect for these usages but unfortunately there's only one mITX AM4 mobo right now and it's often out of stock
poor guy

>>60416997
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vL8Fhq
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rhCpnn
cpu cooler is a placeholder

>>60417102
Should add a 1TB / 2TB, or two 1TB hard drives in there
He's not going to fit all this content creation on 500GB

>>60417135
>two 1TB hard drives
Or he might as well go with 4 decent (3TB+) HDDs in raid6, the case has enough space.

How good will naples be? hoping its at least cheap.

>>60417216
naples is server stuff anon

>>60416730
Upon some more thorough research I can't turn up any possible way to disable this, there's barely even any discussion about it. Unless anyone has some tech wizard secret tips I think I'm just going to get a replacement, and if the replacement makes the same noise then I'm dropping WD like a sack of shit.

>>60417356
fairly sure WD black being noisy isn't that rare even

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>>60416665
What is this? Also, so close to getting quads.

>>60417304
yes it is

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Should you clean your PSU of dust? Whats the best way of doing that?

>>60417214
Or get external HDDs for archival purposes.

>>60417424
Only if it's so dusty that it affects the air flow. The best way is open it up and clean it with a paint brush

>>60417401
its paint

>>60417468
Looks like plastic to me

>>60417379
If they are it's news to me, maybe I just lucked out? I have a 1Tb black from a few years ago that I have literally never heard make any noise whatsoever, and it's my main drive for basically anything that isn't my OS. I just can already tell I won't be able to stand this "tuk" "tuk" every 3-10 seconds (before anyone says it this isn't the sort of noise a broken one makes, it's functionally fine, just annoying as all fuck).

>>60417462
A paint brush? Couldn't that damage something?

What/why would you use a brush over just canned air?

>>60417506
Canned air is a waste of money. A paint brush is soft enough that it won't hurt anything.

An air compressor would also work well if you have one.

Can someone help me, i need a preferably matx build where the motherboard supports raid and the case has a hot swappable bay (one or more) and preferably no 5.25 bays for small form factor

>>60417462
Be careful if you open the PSU. The inductor may still have a strong current.

>>60417505
Some 1TB Black are actually WD Caviar Blue rebranded

Also you should probably get a refund if you can, and RMA it if you cannot. Getting a WD Black 2TB when much cheaper 2TB exist isn't very wise

The lack of ITX boards for Ryzen is really troubling. Might have to go Intel for my Danbuild.

>>60417506
Buy a $50 air blower and be set for life
https://www.amazon.fr/ITdusters-com-EGP-COM-011-CompuCleaner-Electric-Duster/dp/B00S7CH6FK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484958893&sr=8-1&keywords=compucleaner

>>60417527
Or a powder brush, if you happen to have one that isn't being used.

>>60417585
For that you can unplug it from the wall and attempt to power it on, draining any charge leftover

>>60417606
It's just 2 more months, anon! You can do the wait! You've already waited this long, you can keep waiting for the last stretch!

>>60417596
It's the other way, some (used to be all) Blues are older designs of Blacks
As for 2TB HDDs, best is 1st revision (B0) of WD RE4, but it's impossible to find now. It's the last HDD released before patent troll sued hdd manufacturers out of AAM technology.

>>60417639
What's in two more months? New ITX mobos have been announced?

>>60417660
Yes, ASRock and Gigabyte.

Biostar has already released one, x370GTN

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Anyone knows if there is a newer driver for this CPU?

how much of a bottleneck would an i5 4430 be to anything? i found a sweet deal for a 4430 with 16gb of ram and a quadro 410 for $60 and figured why not chuck some other gpu in it. no hdd too though.

i wanna fill a 5.2" slot on my case, what should i buy?

Is there a better value than 4gb 470/570 ?

>>60417596
Yeah I'm gonna be returning this I think. I'm a huge quietfag and this drive alone is making more noise when it does it than my entire build. Got any recommendations for a cheaper 2Tb that'll perform around about the same? Without this fucking noise. (Bongland if that matters) [spoiler]Drives are something I shamefully know almost fuckall about.[/spoiler]

>>60417724
Wouldn't bottleneck much if any. Current i5 arent that much more strong at all.
What's your current setup though? Even if it's cheap as fuck, building old stuff isn't always wise

>>60417726
No, the RX 470 is the best value card out there

Phenom II x4 960t still works but the motherboard finally kicked the bucket.

Should I upgrade the whole thing or just get a new AM3 mb in clearance dirt cheap for $40?

>>60417759
why not? i have a 8350 and 7770, i know its not much of an upgrade but its so cheap even if just for the ram

>>60417699
Probably not. But why would you need one? I know some older AMD chips required a driver but I've never seen anything for Intel

I ordered a Toshiba P300 and reading more about it, I'm getting very worried about it's reliability and peoples are saying it's loud, despite the reviews saying otherwise. Thing is, I read a 3TB review, I got the 2TB one. Are they build differently enough that the 2TB version would have more issues?
I'm gonna cancel and get Seagate instead

>>60417725
A Quantum Bigfoot

>>60417782
Depends on how much power you need. If your X4 was handling everything you need it to, why upgrade yet?

>>60417837
Thank you for your respond.

I know maybe I don't need it but I like to have all drivers updated and i wanted to know if there was an update for the CPU driver. I checked the Intel website and didn't find anything though. I thought that maybe installing the Intel official driver would add some software or something that improves the CPU performance or give you some configuration options, like the Nvidia control panel.

>>60417964
chipset drivers or newer bioses could do that, but not by much

>>60417841
I cancelled it.
Now I see peoples saying it won't work at full speed on Win7.

>>60417102
>>60417135
>>60417214
>>60417431
>>60417060
I've never had this much help from any anons on this shitty website. Thanks a lot.

is the stutter meme real? hit me with your best video evidence. I want capture card material.

>>60417988
Ok.

Another thing. What do you think about updating the BIOS?

I think there is a newer version of my BIOS but I have read that it is very dangerous if you install the wrong BIOS and that it doesn't add anything important in most of the cases?

>>60418050
>Now I see peoples saying it won't work at full speed on Win7.
Bullshit, unless those people have fucked up SATA drivers, faulty SATA cables, or faulty drives. The hard drive's firmware is distinct and unaffected by the OS, there is no way for the hard drive to physically slow down because of the operating system. This is the same with any hard drive.
>>60417841
>Are they build differently enough that the 2TB version would have more issues?
Toshiba's 500GB, 1TB, 2TB, and 3TB drives are all based on the same core design, with different capacity platters determining the capacity of each one. That's where there is no P300 4TB or higher model, because the core design of the X300 is significantly different than the P300.
>I'm gonna cancel and get Seagate instead
Their newer Barracuda is actually alright for once, so you won't have much of an issue there. The 3TB reliability scare is pretty much gone by now, so you won't have to worry about that either.

>>60418075
updating the bios is dangerous because if your PC was to suddenly shutdown while doing so, the motherboard would be dead
And if you feed a corrupted file, the mobo would possibly die here too

But i've done it 5 times in the past 3 months and i haven't encountered any problem

>>60418256
Explain this shit then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Format
>support for 4 KB logical sectors within operating systems differs among their types, vendors and versions. For example, Microsoft Windows supports 4K native drives since Windows 8

What the flying FUCK. I dodged a bullet here. I will be using Windows7 for as long as I can, if I did buy this HDD I would have an emulated super slow 512byte sectors.

Of course I was joking for the seagate part. I have no clues what HDD to go for now, especially now that I know this Advanced Format bullshit.

is this a good case?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9zvgcOrTtw

So I want to get an SSD; would 240 gb be enough for two OSs (Wind10 and whatever Linux variant I feel like trying out, usually debian), keeping in mind I would use the SSD pretty much just for the OS and the HDD for everything else (Data, games, etc.)?

Some people have told me you want at least 250 per OS installation, but that sounds like bull. Something like 100 gb per OS isn't enough.

>>60418324
Man, you're a special kind of retard, aren't you? Windows 7 has been supporting Advanced Format for years. I've ran an X300 and P300 on a Windows 7 machine with 0 drop in performance over my Windows 8.1 and Linux machines.

>>60418488
> I would use the SSD pretty much just for the OS and the HDD for everything else (Data, games
That wouldn't be very wise then, games can take an awful lot of place (Doom 50GB, BF1 50GB, GTAV 60GB), and Windows 10 takes around 40GB~ if i recall

>>60418488
For your use the 240 is plenty big enough.

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>>60418522
>being mean on the internet

>>60418550
You're acting like a spergy little tard over an "issue" that hasn't existed in 7 years from information from literal retards (aka Amerifats)

>>60418307
And what adds the new versions?

Is only for adding compatibility to newer components or there are other adds?

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>>60418577
i'm not him, anon.

>>60418522
>I've ran an X300 and P300 on a Windows 7 machine with 0 drop in performance over my Windows 8.1 and Linux machines

Prove it.
I'm already turned off by the Toshiba drives due to the noise issues and I see way too much failures complains.

>>60418589
fixing buggs, improving latency, performance, memory support, overclock, etc etc
over the years bioses get better and better. Considering how old your build is, you might be on very old bioses. Improving performance (slightly) through bioses updates over time is pretty common for new architectures

>>60418651
Nigga, all hard drives made since 2011 are 4K native formats now.
>b-b-but muh seagates
http://www.seagate.com/tech-insights/advanced-format-4k-sector-hard-drives-master-ti/

Buy either drive, or a HGST drive if you feel like not taking a risk.

>>60418442
a good case of animal cruelty, yes

>>60418488
yes for linux, not really for windows. just get a 500gb ssd, theyre cheap enough. or go 200gb windows 40gb linux

So guys, I am building a new PC and so far with my friend who knows a bit more about computers than me we came up with this

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/HZQ8kT

The main question is is weather or not I should go for 2011 or 1151.

Can you help me out with optimising this build or making a new one

>country
UK
>purpose
Gaming @ 1080p, 120Hz
>budget
£1500-1800 for the internals only; no case, peripherals, monitor, OS/SW
>additional
future proofing, ability to OC and compatibility for SLI and extra RAM in the future, regardless of the list above not everything has to be RGB

>>60418256
>Their newer Barracuda is actually alright for once, so you won't have much of an issue there. The 3TB reliability scare is pretty much gone by now, so you won't have to worry about that either.
I read somebody who wrote their review, and then edited it, of their 6 seagate barracude.
They ALL died within 3 years...

This supposedly doesn't happen anymore?

>RX 580 and R5 1600 for gaymen and autism
Am I seriously best off doing an all AMD build? What a time to be alive.

>>60418831
>RX 580
>uses more power than the updated 1060 6GB but delivers slightly less performance overall

>R5 1600
>needs six cores and SMT to match a non-HT i5-7500
>uses more power and still comes up short of the i5-7500's performance

top kek

>>60418831
>R5 1600
Yes
>RX 580
Eh not really

>>60418866
>more cores is bad
>comes up short (in single and quad core tests)
How many games or other programs aren't properly parrallelized these days?

>>60418924
more cores is good, but more strong cores is much, much better than more weak cores. Ryzen is Bulldozer 2.0, except not as severe.

>>60418866
Except it performs better than a 7500... 7500 is litterally at it's limits, while ryzen uses around 50% of itself.
A r3 1400 performs very close to a i5-7500.

Also, RX 580 performs better than gtx 1060, and will have a longer life span due to the higher amount of vram.

>order all parts
>all parts arrive except gpu
>backordered delivery expected June 1

Well this sucks. Ryzen doesn't have support for graphics so I can't even boot the computer off the onboard graphics

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>>60418775
Your friend is buying vastly overpriced parts
It will perform well but it's incredibly cost inefficient. Don't listen to your friend anymore when it comes to hardware, he does know what is good but not what is good for you.

>i7 6800k
Is a good CPU, but is way overkill for gaming. The R5 1600 is also a 6 cores CPU but is much less expensive and although it performs less, is way more cost efficient. This is what most games go with these days because i5 are utter shit, the R5 1600 is a nice sweetspot for gamer / multitasker and even streamers / video editors

>£130 cooler
Again, this is very cost inefficient. Watercooler tend to be very expensive and only cool a few 2 - 3°C more than $80 air cooler would. They also need to be maintained and have risk of leakage (destroying everything in your computer because water flows fucking everywhere). I'd recommend going for a Noctua DH-14, be quiet dark rock 3, Cryorig H5, or anything Phanteks between $60 & $80.
All of those are great high end air coolers that cool very well and are very used for overclocking purposes.

>£300 motherboard
Is just throwing your money away. Unless you actually need the very overpriced features it offers, a £180 motherboard will work just as well

>£72 128GB M2 SSD
Should up that for a 250GB M2, they're not that much more expensive

>GTX 1080
Not for 1080p, get a GTX 1070 instead. It handles 144hz very well.

>compatibility for SLI
SLI is in a very poor state, it offers very unsure scaling (sometimes even negative) and very bad framepacing.
Especially for 1080p120hz, what the fuck are you gonna use it for?
It's not worth it, really

>>60418911
>Eh not really
There's no other option, gtx 1060 is just plain and simply a bad buy.

Yes, uses quite a bit less wattage, but you'll need gsync, and it has less vram. Whenever there's vulcan or D12 it'll perform way worse than rx 580... And games will be heading that direction.
It's only surviving because it has way more in-game optimization by game developers for D11.

>>60418952
More strong cores is also much, much more expensive. It really depends on how often you end up pushing the limit of single core performance. So game console emulation mostly.

>>60418965
>GPU
>lifespan
laughinganimewhores.tiff

>>60418966
Get a cheap used R7 240 to test your system.

>>60418965
>Except it performs better than a 7500
No, just no
Every single non-shill benchmark puts the i5-7500 above the R5 1600X, except for a few obscure games that no one really plays.
>7500 is litterally at it's limits, while ryzen uses around 50% of itself
Well, the 7500 is being 100% utilized, whereas Ryzen is such an unoptimized mess for Windows that it's only utilizing 80% of its performance, and it's still struggling to get 75% of the i5-7500's performance.
>A r3 1400 performs very close to a i5-7500
Stop drinking the Koolaid. The R5 1400 can't even keep up with an i3-7100T.

>RX 580 performs better than gtx 1060
My sides
You actually believe this, don't you?

>>60419016
>laughinganimewhores.tiff
If you want to play on max settings no GPU has a life span, but if you just want to be able to run games, even at lowest settings, GPUs do have a life span.

At 1440p you'll be hitting the vram limit of 6gb pretty soon.

>>60419025
Good idea. The back orders part is a Msi rx570 armor. I have no idea why it's sold out everywhere but getting my hands on a GPU now to test would be good

>>60418866
>needs six cores and SMT to match a non-HT i5-7500
It doesn't match it, it shits on it at multithreading & even at gaming because the i5 is constanly near 90% load
>uses more power
Nice old memes, please leave this general, you're not being helpful to anyone in here

>>60419042
>Every single non-shill benchmark puts the i5-7500 above the R5 1600X, except for a few obscure games that no one really plays.
Oh yeah sure
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ovmxfejvo
https://youtu.be/JypkqwpOtNI?t=8m
Vastly above the R5 1600x, huh! amd btfo!
>Ryzen is such an unoptimized mess for Windows that it's only utilizing 80% of its performance
???????????
Stop parroting dumb thing you hear in other threads, it's not making you look smart

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>>60419077
>Nice old memes
FRESH

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>>60419077
DANK

>>60419013

Thank you for your reply.

He does like to go overboard with stuff and I did tell him I was thinking about going for an i5 but he said I might as well get a 2011 CPU so there would be a better chance I could swap it out in the future without getting a new MB.

I was talking about SLI for the future, I'm only getting a single card for now and from what I've heard SLI compatibility is getting better over time so I am basing this on a hope that when I get to the point when I want to buy a 2nd card it would work well enough.

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>>60419077
MAY-MAYS

>>60419106
>>60419127
>>60419149
This is /pcbg/, not your shitposting zone
I can tell you're new in here but lad, this isn't like the other random threads in /g/
You're comparing power draw of a 6 cores twelve threads CPU to a 4 cores 4 threads one. Of course it's gonna draw more, don't be autistic.
Do the comparison between two 4 cores 4 threads and you may have a point. Until then, please fuck off to another thread.

>>60418965
r3 isnt even out yet

>>60418966
yes, funny how amd "pioneered" apus but dont even include them anymore. i wonder why...

>>60419166
>Of course it's gonna draw more, don't be autistic.
Thank you for agreeing with my original point. Now gtfo and rub some ointment for that sick self-burn

>>60419042
>Every single non-shill benchmark puts the i5-7500 above the R5 1600X, except for a few obscure games that no one really plays.
They don't overclock the 1600X, or they use shitty slow RAM.

>Ryzen is such an unoptimized mess for Windows that it's only utilizing 80% of its performance
Clearly you don't know what you're talking about.

Windows doesn't do the optimization for games, windows only does optimization for how windows tasks are handled by the CPU. The optimization comes from the game makers, and AMD has said they've invested a lot into optimization from developers, but obviously it'll take time to make that optimization... Future games will already come with that optimization.

>Stop drinking the Koolaid. The R5 1400 can't even keep up with an i3-7100T.
The IPC is pretty much the same for the entire CPU line, which means a 1400 performs close to a 1800X in single core. If a game only has 2 core, utilization, they will perform exactly the same (overwatch I think?).

You're clearly very new to computers, so maybe you should shut up and learn some before you talk.

>You actually believe this, don't you?
And yes, of course. RX 580 is more powerful than GTX 1060.
I'm pretty sure RX 580 completely outmatches GTX 1060 is blender renders.

It's only in old D11 games that GTX 1060 can manage to have an upperhand... Even there, it's usually really close.
In Vulcan RX 580 easily beats GTX 1070, in DX12 afaik RX 580 beats GTX 1060 by a pretty good margin.

>>60418966

Question to anyone though. So I ordered the GPU from B&H for $200. but it wont be shipped until June 2

Now Amazon has it available starting May 18, for $210 (the price jumped $10 between now and last week somehow)

Should I cancel my order with BH and just pay the extra 10 and get it from amazon, or is there a better gpu I should buy altogether?

>>60419138
SLI is just a meme. Not worth your money.

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what sort of ram could i run on this bad boy?

>>60419180
I meant r5, I keep forgetting r5 consists of both 6 core 12 threads, and 4 core 4 thread, CPUs...

>>60419215
Go onto gigabytes site, find the mobo, look at it's ram support list...

>>60419190
I do not.

>>60419138
>might as well get a 2011 CPU so there would be a better chance I could swap it out in the future without getting a new MB.
Your friend is wrong, the lasts CPU that were released on LGA 2011 were released one year ago, and no more will ever be released for it.
If it's actual upgreadability you want, going for an AM4 motherboard is wiser, because the platform is set to last 3 more years at the very least, and new CPUs are already planned for it next year on a said-to-be vastly enhanced architecture. That's an actual upgrade path.

>>604192196
6c12t & 4c8t actually

>>60419194
>They don't overclock the 1600X, or they use shitty slow RAM.
Literal excuses
Can't make this shit up
>The optimization comes from the game makers, and AMD has said they've invested a lot into optimization from developers, but obviously it'll take time to make that optimization
Is this some of dat Wait meme I smell?
>The IPC is pretty much the same for the entire CPU line
Cool, you were dropped on your head as a baby. I said that the IPC difference between a thermally-gimped dual core Kaby Lake is still miles ahead of Zen's IPC. Which is true.
>RX 580 is more powerful than GTX 1060
No it's not. The GTX 1060 is still faster, more powerful, and uses less power.

>>60418526
I think you misunderstood me, the games would go on the HDD, the SSD would be just for the OSes.

>>60418549
>>60418764
Hmm. Really? 200/40 split? Windows really that much of a hog?

>>60419253
Shouldn't you be on reddit?

>>60419180
>yes, funny how amd "pioneered" apus but dont even include them anymore. i wonder why...
Because they're in the process of making them but you can't just shit out your whole CPU line in a single day???

>>60419253
>miles ahead of Zen's IPC. Which is true.
Stop parroting what you hear, it keeps making you look like a retard. The IPC is almost identical. It's CCX communication & clockrate that is behind.

>>60417527
compressors sometimes spray a bit of water

use a leaf blower

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>>60419253
>The GTX 1060 is still faster, more powerful,
hohohohohohoho

>>60417725
Anyone?

>>60419285
>The IPC is almost identical
No it's not
> It's CCX communication & clockrate that is behind
>more excuses
A i7-7700K clocked at 3.9GHz still outperforms an 1800X at 3.9GHz in single-threaded benchmarks, and a 1500X at 3.9GHz in multi-threaded performance (despite having double the L3 cache).

What would be a good videocard for this? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/88nWd6
The most resource demanding game I would play is battlefield 4, and I don't care much about the graphics. I don't play much videogames, anyways, but I want to get good value out of my money. Been thinking of the rx560, would that be good?

If I want to go balls to the wall retard for storage space to store my vidya, where I won't have to upgrade for a LONG time, is this a reliable and good performance option? (Win 7 if that matters)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Toshiba-P300-Performance-Internal-Drive/dp/B013J7HO8G/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1494897968&sr=1-3&keywords=hard%2Bdrive&th=1

>>60417606
Doesn't biostar have one?
It seems fairly decent

>>60419330
If the 4GB RX 560 is in your budget it would be a good choice
Otherwise get a GTX 1050

>>60419335
They're an evolution of an enterprise hard drive that was rushed to the consumer market. Just like the WD Black, in a sense. And like the WD Black, they are loud and hot as fuck.

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>>60419327
sure thing buddy
>>>/buildapc/

>>60419327
Have fun with your 8 threads already being maxed out, and having your games micro-stutter because your CPU is maxing out.

>>60419359
But... gtx 1050 outperforms RX 560... RX 560 will only be better at games that require over 2gb vram.

>>60419374
Damn, I hate loud drives. Got a good alternate option?

>>60419330
GO with some higher speed memory. Makes a huge difference on Ryzen. G.Skill has some good 8GB sets under $60.
As to a GPPU, I'd look at the RX460 4GB or the RX470. Don't need anything higher than that

>>60419410
Probably a Seagate Barracuda or HGST Deskstar

>>60419405
Yes, that was my logic by recommending either the 4GB RX 560 or GTX 1050, and not the 2GB rx 560.
In my opinion 2GB is too low

>>60419411
>Makes a huge difference on Ryzen
Not with a budget card
He's not gonna be bottlenecked with his R5 1400 with a gtx 1050 anon

>>60419240
>>60419013
I am really unsure about AMD and from what I can see here you guys have an internal war between both camps its seems.
People keep talking about compatibility issues, no 100% utilisation and all kind of other shit.

>>60419313
This really doesn't disprove him. And then there's the power consumption.

>>60419445
either way, he's overpaying for memory.

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reposting because I didn't get much (you)'s last night
final build, I'm so fed up with shills, moar coars, waiting for Vega and everything here
I just wanna get this and build it
One question though, should i reuse my 3 years old power supply? (bronze, 650w, modular) or get a new one?
mind you that this power supply has endured many blue-screens and freezes because my current rig tends to overheat in the summer

>>60419456
No one argues that the RX 580 uses more power.
But christ, it uses 220w at load, considering everyone has minimum 500w this is a complete non-issue
>This really doesn't disprove him
Yes it does, his claims were that the GTX 1060 is constantly faster. On most games, the RX 580 is faster.

You know what's good with AM4 mITX boards coming out so late is?

That the boards will probably have full ram computability at release, so you can't end up buying a board that can't post with the ram sticks, which in turn makes it impossible to update the bios to make it able to post with the ram.

Isn't the RAM update from AMD going to come out soon?

>>60419478
>, his claims were that the GTX 1060 is constantly faster
Oh, he's retarded. But still, the GTX is faster for the most demanding games anyway.
That and the still appreciable power saving you'll make in the end, and it's pretty clear who wins to me.

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Posted this on an earlier thread. Looking to build a computer for statistical programs and gaming. The heaviest stuff that i run would probably be bethesda "RPGs." Ideally, I could shave a bit off the cost. What do you guys think Apologies for being technologically inept, but i didn't want to turn to reddit.

>>60419330
>>60419411
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XTrxd6
G.skill's don't ship to my country (Mexico) but thanks for the suggestion. How many Mhz should I geat?
I'm new to this so sorry if I ask stupid questions.

What are some good coolers in the 30-70 euro price bracket? Currently looking at a Noctua NH-U12S and Cryorig H7, along with some be quiet! ones.

>>60419524
Drop the R5 for an i5 and the B350 for a B250
DIYPC cases are literal housefires

>>60419448
If you want to pay for overpriced parts then yeah you can go Intel, but there really isn't anything wrong with AMD. The R5 series offer 6 cores 12 threads at an i5 price point (those have 4c4t), which is why every single reviewer has been recommending R5 and not i5 since they've been released one month ago.
Again, there's nothing really wrong with AMD. No, your PC won't explode. No your games won't close on their own, or any other dumb thing some people might say.

They are CPUs, they work well, and are much better value than intel ones.
That's why most builds in the past month here have been R5 1600, with a few 7700k & R7 1700. They are great CPU and great value, on a platform that provides the best upgradeability.

if you want to instead buy a CPU on a dead socket, which will force you to buy a new motherboard for your next upgrade, then sure. If you want to pay £400 for a 6 cores CPU when you don't even need the extra power it has over the £260 one, then sure. But it's not what we're recommending you.

>>60419524
>DIYPC
Enjoy shit being full centimeters out of spec.

>>60419422
How's the volume on the seagate? Maybe I sound like an autist but I like my shit as quiet as I can get it.

>>60419509
>GTX is faster for the most demanding games anyway.
That's not what the graph shows though. Both are in average pretty even.
And most people will disagree with you on which wins, mostly because of freesync & DX12 much better performance for the RX 580. The GTX 1060 is still a great card though.

>>60419534
>How many Mhz should I geat?
I'd look at 2666 minimum. Seems to be the sweet spot for base memory on Ryzen.

>>60419544
An Anon told me earlier to do the R5 instead of the i5. What would be the benefit?
>>60419571
Yah, I haven't placed the order, so no remorse yet.

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>>60419560
>but there really isn't anything wrong with AMD.
>>60419585
Quiet, as long as it's the 5900rpm version

>>60419508
>Isn't the RAM update from AMD going to come out soon?
Yes, before the end on the month, but we don't know when

>Drop the R5 for an i5
Why would he do that?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XTrxd6
>>60419445
>>60419426
>>60419534
>>60419589
Sorry, forgot to mention some things.
The PC I'm building will be for light video and photo editing, and some FL studio maybe. I game sometimes but not that often. I just want to get a good price-quality radio. My budget is so low because the rest is going to a nice keyboard and a pair of headphones with an amp.
TL;DR: I want a very snappy computer for everyday use that doesn't have to be that good at games.

>>60419596
Literally everything. Ryzen is a puddle of warm shit right now with all the bugs, instabilities, and compatibility issues they have. AM4 was clearly rushed out the door and not finished properly.

>>60419536
The Cryorig H7 isn't that good, it's made for people with small form factor builds
The NH-U12S is good, so are the few Be Quiet CPU coolers

>>60419597
>as long as it's the 5900rpm version
that's the one that's just normal Barracuda, right? Is t difference between the speed of the normal ones and the Pro ones even noticeable?

>>60419620
Interesting. Thanks for the tip. Do you have an intel version that I should look at?

>>60419615
Video editing and photo editing can be heavily dependent on the cores. I would look to see if you can swing a Ryzen R5 1600. It has 6 cores instead of 4, so it should be better than anything else in the price range at it.

>>60419620
Bullshit. There's only some rare memory speed issues at worst

>>60419620
Holy shit you couldn't be more obvious in this autism
>with all the bugs
Yes, my R7 1700 literally eat my cat a few minutes ago
>instabilities
yeah i literally get a bluescreen every blue moon ;_;
>and compatibility issues they have
tfw can't read flac on my ryzen cpu.....

>>60419596
Don't listen to what this autist says.
Watch any R5 review if you want, but this guy is just spouting memes like there's no tomorrow.
Plenty of review out there for the R5 series. GamerNexus, JayTwoCents, etc etc etc. But that guy is just trying to mislead you into not buying X brand because he likes Y more, aka he's a fucking faggot

>>60419600
Because i5 is a terrible terrible buy.

I even have some guilt for getting my sister a i3-6100, on her first build, without realizing that the G4560 was gonna come out so soon after.

Best build for $1k?

I'm thinking about getting either a corsair 750d airflow or a 780t for a case for a new PC build.

I'm currently also planning on getting a h115i cooler.

My questions are,

If I want to mount the radiator to the front of the case, will the tubes going from the radiator to the pump be able to reach the CPU without issue and a lot of tension on them?

I figure as well that with all the HDD cages removed and the radiator in the front, if there's a leak, unless it's right at the pump, most of the tubes and radiator will be right over nothing and just fall through the bottom fan section. Might take out fans, but nothing really important for leaks among most of it.

Also, both cases have 2 140mm front fans. If I set up the h115i as pull at front, will the 2 case fans work effectively as push fans on the front intake?

AMDshills are getting desperate tonight

>>60419706
The guy said dropping the R5 (4 core 8 threads) for an i5 (4 cores 4threads) which makes no sense to me for statistical programs because i'm fairly sure they love having more threads to work with

>>60419716
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HO20mmQjY40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf_pUECRmAo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnA8BuTC44U
sure thing buddy

>>60419707
logical increments

>>60419707
Fairly sure you could fit an R5 1600 & GTX 1070 in there
we're not gonna make it for you though

>>60419752
can serve as a decent baseline but is not what you should end up buying

>>60419704
Thanks for the tip. I'm gonna do a little more research. Unrelated note, can anyone tell me if Corair cases are any good? I'm handicapping myself by wanting to use an orange case.

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>>60419773
Have you looked into the Be Quiet silent base?
It's a pretty great case both for airflow and sound isolation

>>60419766
I was just saying "fuck off, read the sticky" in a constructive manner.

so if a case (carbide 100r) specifies that it's max cooler height is 150mm and the cryorig h7 is 145mm, is that too close for comfort or will that be fine?

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>>60419799
The cryorig H7 is a pretty tall cooler, but it should be fine.

How's my build seem for high-end gaming til Volt comes out and becomes relatively bug free (playing stupidly unoptimized shit at max settings can be ignored).

i7 3770k OC @ 4.5 Ghz
6.0GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 799MHz (7-8-8-24)
GeForce GTX 1080 (Gigabyte)

Am I gonna have to upgrade again? (Is it gonna be the ram?)

>>60419799
Unless it's some shit case, it should be accurate... I'm a bit worried with getting a 160mm cooler, in a case with a maximum of 160mm cooler.

Asked the manufacturer if there'll be any headroom, and they just said that their 160mm cooler fits, so there should be no problem.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RZ9TxY 666 dollars :^)
>>60419615 me on the left

>>60419793
I've seen a few people talking about them. This is my first build, so I'm looking at something relatively idiot-proof to work with. Have you had experience with them?

>>60419817
why does that look too crammed? didn't know the carbide is that small

>>60419844
Gonna need more RAM indeed
I'd personnally recommend buying new CPU + MOBO + (DDR4) RAM. The 3770k is already dragging your 1080 down a bit, i wouldn't recommend keeping it for Volta.

>>60416997
Silverstone ML08 could work if you want something slim. It comes with a handle, too. Although, it may be just a tiny bit too big for those luggage dimensions.

>>60419854
your memes aren't funny
might wanna get a 1TB hard drive with it

https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/34hPxr/great-gaming-build

How's this? was thinking about ryzen 5 and change that mobo to an am4

>>60419854
btw will the case look too big for my build?
>>60419890
nah, I've never used much space. Rn I only have 72gb occupied
>>60419854 (me on the left)

>>60419870
Fuck, I meant 16 GB DDR3 ram.

>The 3770k is already dragging your 1080 down a bit
Is it really? Not like bottlenecking though, right? That happens at 100% CPU load and I only reached that on TW:Warhammer b/c fuck optimizing games amirght?

>>60419917
Yeah it's not actively bottlenecking it, but you'd get much lower FPS drop & more FPS overall with a newer CPU
But it's still perfectly fine for the time beingr

tfw asus mobo is still gud just needed to reset cmos

this really tripped me out when i first put my computer together, the right-most screw holes on my mobo don't reach the standoffs?
MSI Z270-A motherboard and fractal design define R5 case.

How retarded is it to use http://www.omahas.com/boxes/ammo-boxes/wood-rocket-boxes#.WRpgA-FMFDs as a case for my /k/omputer build? Lots of fans and holes to create airflow would be fine right?

>>60420072
I also would like help on my list. Idk how to go about choosing a power supply.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MKqLxY

>>60420072
It could be done, but that's a lot of work...
Question. Why not just get a Fractal Design case and wrap it in a woodgrain vinyl?

>>60417424
Just drain it of power and blow air into it from your lungs.

>>60420091
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/DPCwrH/seasonic-power-supply-ssr550rm
This one is pretty good. Seasonic are generally great PSU, it has plenty of power for your build and overclocking room, and is decently efficient (80+ gold) while not being much expensive

>>60420091
i heard 580 uses alot of power so 650w to be safe i would say

>>60420137
The RX 580 uses 220w at load. This is not "a lot of power". It's decently more power than the competition, but it's still not a lot.
You add 65w for the CPU & 50w for the rest of the system (fans, hard drives, motherboard), and it's still under 400.

Fuck, i'm running an OC'd R7 1700 & OC'd old R9 280 (280w at load on stock clocks) and rocking it with a 500w PSU.

>>60420091
first, decide if you want a windowed case so you can see your components.
For ease of installation, you was a semi-modular or fully modular power supply.
Something else to look for is look at the product pictures on various sites. newegg is usually good about this. Look for the photo of the cables. Make sure the cables are all black and not red/yellow.
Next look at the efficiency rating. You want at least 80+ Bronze. This means that under full load, it's operating at over 80% efficiency, which means more efficient power consumption which can make a difference in your electricity bill.
You generally also want to pick a power supply with more wattage than you could ever need, so you have room to upgrade over time. I think 500W to 650W is the sweet spot personally.

>>60420105
Because its not og surplus

>>60420207
If you're good with glue, you can glue enough splinters to it to make it look realistic.

>>60416665
Thanks, this general helped me a lot to build my pc today. Everything works as it should now after struggling for three days.

I just still dont know how to change the colours of my keyboard...

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>>60420233
That's great, anon!
What is your build?

>>60420233
should be a software for that familia

>>60420205
>>60420160
>>60420137
>>60420129
Thanks. Are there any more parts i need for a ground up build? Besides monitor keyboard and mouse?

Looking to pretty much spend all of my savings on a top-of-the-line build, any suggestions about what i have so far?
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/qYTcr7

>>60420239
ab350 mb with a ryzen 5 1600x
msi 580 8gb and some 2x4gb ramslapped in there...
It's nothing special, I just wanted to be able to run nier and overwatch again...
>>60420243
legit, downloaded the "driver" for it but all I found was the option to customise the G keys even though I know somewhere I can change the colour

>>60420274
Looking over your build. I'd change the motherboard to at least a B350 chipset. If you want to get into overclocking in the future, the B350 and X370 boards will support it. All the Ryzen chips are overclockable so it's something to consider.

>>60420289
I wouldn't pay for windows 10 pro If I were you. I would spend the windows money on more SSD.

>>60420289
Also, choose some more expensive ram at a higher speed; 2666 minimum. I'd look at a G.Skill Ripjaws 8GB set.

>>60420326
Look up videos for it

>>60420289
Shit cooler, that CPU heats a real lot, don't cheap out on it.
Why the very expensive motherboard? $180~ motherboard are just as good, unless there's a specific feature you want?

Why the 32GB? Do you actually need that much?
You're throwing money away by going 850 Pro, get a 850 Evo or a cheaper Sandisk / Kingston. They perform very closely but are much cheaper.

1000w isn't really needed, you can run that build on 850w just as well.
>$80 for 120mm fans
Get 140mm fans instead lad.

>>60420233
>>60420289
Hold the FN key (next to right alt) then the key next to print screen.

http://developer.amd.com/tools-and-sdks/cpu-development/amd-optimizing-cc-compiler/
naisu

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My friend just recently built his PC and he bought this motherboard

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157740

It won't recognize his hard drive that he used with his previous PC though, here's a pic he sent to me. Things we've tried:

>updating bios
>trying different mode selections
>trying different SATA ports
>double-checking, triple-checking the wiring
>unplugging all SATA drives except the hard drive he's trying to get to run
>resetting bios to factory settings
>resetting CMOS
>trying different SATA cables

Any ideas? He's depressed as hell thinking the SATA controller is fucked, and I'm just trying to help him out since I don't want to see my friend so down.

Reminder that DDR3 is already as cheap as it will get (it probably has already went up in price). DDR2 didn't go down into the pennies, it was made, got cheap as it entered end of life and as soon as DDR3 became adopted production of DDR2 stopped and prices surged. It's going to be the same for DDR3. If you want DDR3 RAM buy it now, the price is only going up from here.

2 tb seagate barracuda drive on sale for $60

https://www.amazon.com/Seagate-BarraCuda-3-5-Inch-Internal-ST2000DM006/dp/B01IEKG402/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1494903187&sr=8-2&keywords=barracuda+drive

if I slap a rx 460 on my a8-6600k @4.4GHz, will I be able to play all the newer games at 60 fps on low settings at 1366x768 and 1600x900?

Would you recommend another gpu instead? I must remember that it needs to run only on the pci-e power because my shitty psu is shitty

>>60420619
That should be doable considering it gets around 35 ~ 45fps at 1080p Ultra
https://youtu.be/z1gXG8h73QY?t=8m50s

do you need a water cooled system to use CPU coolers like this?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/CrDzK8/corsair-cpu-cooler-cw9060025ww

>>60420662
no, that's why it's called an AIO

>>60420645
thanks famalam

>>60420693
Next time realize google don't answer acronyms.
>>60420662
What you hjave there is an "All in one". They have everything needed to work already affixed and filled.
There is another type being expandable via a coupling to add another radiator. Or full custom cooling that requires separate items to make a operating system.

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>>60420773
I dont think he's that dumb anon

Edit #1 based on feedback from yall

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/h7H9Yr

upgraded fans, CPU cooler, and RAM. Any other advice? Im going with the pro series SSDs for durability reasons btw

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Alright, I don't need building advice per se, but more purchase/upgrade advice. My friend's selling his PC to do some car shit or something, and he told me he'd sell me his build for $500. Everything look passable here? All I play are indie titles and ten year old triple A releases. Any replacement ideas would be nice.
>tl;dr Friend selling his PC, is it good for light gaming/photo and/or video editing (but mostly 4chan browsing)?

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>>60420849
2/2

>>60420869
>>60420849
It's a decent build but not really worth it for $500. If it was $400 maybe, but at $500 you can easily get yourself a pentium g4560 build which will perform better and have much more upgrade path.

>>60420848
What is the build for precisely?

>>60420849
>>60420869
Nup, you need another CPU and PSU. A FX8XXX and 550W psu. It's probably only has 8GB of RAM as well.
You could almost buy all that brand new for $500

>>60420895
I'll take a look. Any replacement parts you recommend with this build? Also yeah, it's only 8GB of RAM
>>60420920
Throw some parts at me dawg

>>60420912
Playing every game available now, and in the forseeable future, at 4k 120fps+, and potentially streaming the experience

>>60420955
Pentium g4560
GTX 1050ti
Fairly sure you can fit a $500 build with that

>>60421020
>and potentially streaming the experience
Heh, should've told that sooner
Get an R7 1700/1800x instead of the 7700k, both dominate it at streaming, because both have twice the fucking core and thread counts, which is the most important thing to have for streaming while doing CPU intensive tasks
Then you overclock it to 4GHz, pair it with 3600MHz ram and you got yourself a beast of a PC.

how much OC can you do to a 1700 with the stock cooler?

>>60420955
see
>>60421027
Pentium isn't a joke, that chip was launched this year. However the 1050ti is. Grab something a bit beefier that'll last you a while. Like a 470/570 4gb, or 480/580 8gb.

>>60421116
Depends on the load.
100% load? 3.6GHz at best
Gaming/Emulation load? easily 3.9GHz
You can fit 60 ~ 80% at 3.7 GHz too

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NgypLD

Is this a good mid-range build? I have currently have two 1TB HDDs that I will salvage

Also will the stock fan be okay? I don't really plan on doing any overclocking at the moment

>>60421239
Will you really be ok with only 250gb? At least 10% of the HDD has to be free space, and windows will take 40gb.
Games are pretty big nowadays, so not that many will fit.

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Has anybody made an RMA to Asus? What does this usually mean? It's for a video card.

>>60421239
Why the R7 1700, do you make use of the 8 cores?
>Also will the stock fan be okay?
Yes, the stock fan is a good cooler, very quiet and cools decently.
Why the x370 motherboard? You're not overclocking and you're seemingly not doign SLI/Xfire
Why the full tower case, do you actually need that much room?
And why the 750w PSU? 550w is enough and has a lot of room for OC still

>>60421239
You're paying way too much for the case and the power supply.

And it doesn't llook like you'll be overclocking since you don't have an aftermarket cooler listed. So I'd scale back on the motherboard to a B350 chipset. Those can overclock as well should you want to do that in the future.

Can't believe I almost fell for the AMD shills. fuck it im going with my 7700k build

>>60421364
What?

>>60421239
Here.
I fixed it for you.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jXzKQV

>>60421323
>>60421326
I suppose I really don't need those

>>60421298
the 250gb is for windows and maybe like my two favorite games

>>60421381
Cool, this looks like it will save me a lot of money

>>60421368
They nearly convinced me to go with AMD build but I realized i was being hoodwinked.

here's my part list

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fDsczM

no cpu cooler or case because they're not available on pcpartpicker (enzotech extreme-x rev a. and zalman hd160)

also only paid $83 and some change a stick for the ram and 220 for the ssd

>>60421408
>whole internet says Ryzen is good
>every single reviewer recommends R5 instead of i5
>every single reviewer says R7 is the better choice if you do anything that enjoys having more thread
>every pc building community says the same
>f-f-fucking amd shills

Stop taking part in brand wars.

>>60421421
What is it for exactly?

>>60421422
I don't take part im the innocent customer caught in the crossfire :(

>>60421430
to browse 4chans

>>60421433
>im innocent customer that just wants to get good informations about my pc build
>Can't believe I almost fell for the AMD shills. fuck it im going with my 7700k build
No, you're clearly here to shitpost

>>60421433
So are all of us anon.
Ryzen is better than 90% of Intel's offerings though.

>>60421321
I assume it means they don't have the part they're going to ship you in stock and they're waiting on an incoming shipment.

If you call them perhaps they could upgrade you to something else to get you a replacement faster?

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>>60421452
I pretty much have the perfect Ryzen build and none of you guys will give me the kudos I deserve.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jLdcr7

That's why I'm going Intel to spite you bastards. I do so much for this community and ask for so little but you still treat me like shit.

>>60421514
Because changing text is merely an F12 away.

>>60421401
He said he was using 2TB drives. You don't need games on an SSD.

>>60421514
>1600X
why? the 1600 will overclock just as well.
>X370 mobo
you're not running SLi or crossfire so why bother? The B350 supports overclocking as well.

>>60421514
do what you want, but again, you're clearly partaking in brand wars.
>i'm choosing X hardware just to spite you bastards

what the hell are you so angry about anyway? what did /pcbg/ do to you? i have no idea what you are talking about

>>60421565
because this shit right here

>>60421562
>get b350
when he doesn't know I play to futureproof this rig for ryzen+ and might want to do sli if nvidia ever allows freesync. you get what you pay for with mobos and I want the best. 1600x is guaranteed golden sample. Why do you guys doubt my pc part picking ability.

>>60421514
Just a heads up, Ryzen won't utilize 3600 DDR4 for awhile.

>>60421619
just leave now kid you don't understand how much research I put into this build.

>>60421613
He's just suggesting you to save money. The vast majority of people coming here that pick an x370 don't actually need SLI, crossfire, the extra pcielanes or the better VRM. They just pick them because they're more expensive.

>>60421619
The update is planned for this month, and "x frequency won't work" is false. It might, it might not, but it's not like it's straight up impossible to reach 3600MHz. A lot of people have done it.

>>60421613
>Why do you guys doubt my pc part picking ability.
because it's shit. I can accept the reasoning for the X370, but the 1600X makes no sense over the 1600.

>>60421613
>1600x is guaranteed golden sample
But difference between shit of the luck draw, and the silicon lottery jackpot winner, is 100mhz.

>>60421636
because I don't want to to jack up voltage to 1.45 to get a stable overclock. you guys fall for every meme dont ya.

>>60419253
>No it's not. The GTX 1060 is still faster, more powerful, and uses less power.
My rx480 maxes out most games and does great at least with doom4 vulcan.

It cost me 140 dollars and will last until there is some other 140 dollar deal that will play current games on max settings.

If you're going to be a tard and wipe your ass with 100 dollar bills at least buy gucci shoes or something else visible outside of speccy threads.

>>60421650
>because I don't want to to jack up voltage to 1.45 to get a stable overclock
The maximum voltage on Ryzen is 1.425, not 1.45.

>>60421679
wat

>>60421681
That's what AMD says themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAVA4khyWg8

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I'm going to create these threads one day with my pcpartpicker list in OP and then finally will realize the power I yield.

>>60421707
They're talking about safe voltages.

>>60421708
don't count on it.

>>60421715
exactly, and you can get a safe overclock without exceeding that, even on the 1600. It's been done.

>>60421747
>It's been done.
When somebody talks about silicon lottery, "this has been done", means litterally nothing.

People have hit 5.0ghz on 2500k, but that doesn't mean every 2500k will hit 5.0ghz.

I've got a EVGA G2 power supply, trying to plug it into a GTX 1070. I need 2 VGA cables since it's 8 and 8 pins, and I'm using two 6+2 cables to power it.

However, the VGA cables both have a separate 6 pin dangling off of it, and are really stiff thick cables so I can't tuck them down. How do I deal with them?

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I'd like a fully modular power supply with a big, quiet fan that stays off most of the time.

I have a 3770K but I'll probably upgrade to whatever the equivalent of the 7700K is within the next year. I have a GTX970 and I'll probably upgrade to the GTX1170 or whatever when the next generation comes out.

I also have two SSDs and two 7200RPM hard drives.

So I probably only need like 400W but I figure it might run quieter if I size up a bit. (Currently using a very old, very noisy 550W Antec PSU.)

Not too concerned about price but <$150 USD would be nice.

Corsair RM850x is $120 which seems oddly cheap but maybe I'm missing something.

>>60421794
Ignore it

>>60421737
Lmao. You don't understand how easily I could overpower you

>>60421812
Please be patient, I have autism.

But in seriousness, they come off at the worst spot (for some reason the 6+2 is in the middle of the cable and the 6 pin branches off at the END) and I'm worried about cramming them to the side of my case or under/on top of my GPU. Other than zip-typing to the PSU shroud I'm not sure what to do.

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>>60421842

>>60421857
Weeb. This makes it even easier

>>60421811
i have a seasonic snow silent 750 watt, the fan is never on... it's only been on twice when the house is so god damn fucking hot from being 80 years old

Who's the best rx580 vendor? Post more than one option. Got a freesync 144hz monitor, now I need a gpu for it.

>>60421943
Wait for vega. Seriously

>RX 570
>almost all models sold out
>RX 470
>nearly everything out of stock

wtf am i supposed to do, who is buying all this?

>>60421943
xfx rx 580 black edition, powercolor red devil, asus rog trix

>>60421952
Vega probably will be out of my budget and Russian retailers will fuck up the prices for sure. But that's an option, and I'm not rushing anywhere

>>60421989
Tell me more about Russian resellers.

>>60421473
Thanks. If it's a new card, great. I doubt they'd be able to upgrade it, though, even if I pressured them. I've heard of companies like EVGA and Logitech giving people newer and sometimes better versions of things sent in for repair. From what I've also heard, Asus has the worst track record, as far as RMAs go.

should I ditch the RX 570 for a 1050 Ti? Its an AMD build but I wont be doing much modern gaming

>>60422193
No. Keep the 570

how much of a performance hit would i take if i downgrade from dual 1080ti to dual 1080?

>>60422193
Not really worth, at the very best you'd win $20 but lose a great card in the process.

>>60422229
>>60422203
Okay. My issue is all the 570s are backordered until June but i can get a 1050 ti by the end of the week. But I'll just have to be patient.

>>60421952
Isn't VEGA gonna be pretty bad price to performance? Either way, the cheapest in their line up is gonna be 50% more than rx 580.

is this a good deal? i would rather have 750watts, but i need a psu that's modular and ideally no longer than 150mm.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=17-438-094

>>60422291
everything of what you said is pure rumors

Whats the Most reliable brand for SSDs right now? All I really care about is it not dying and not having a backdoor

>>60422378
Kingston, Sandisk, Toshiba/OCZ and Samsung.

>>60422219
How about just use 1 1080 ti. My 1080 ti handles everything just fine.

>>60422267
Get an rx 480.

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I have two strips of bottom lights that wont turn on anymore. This computer is only a month old. I have checked the wiring and everything is connected still. Anyone know wtf is going on?

I have the corsair c70 case with the h90 watercooling AIO (140mm radiator)

my case can only fit the 140mm on the top or side (or bottom lol), did i fuck up? if i put the 140mm for the radiator on top of the case as an exhaust that should be fine?

case:
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/vengeance-c70-mid-tower-gaming-case-arctic-white

AIO watercooler:
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/hydro-series-h90-140mm-high-performance-liquid-cpu-cooler

>>60422526
>my case can only fit the 140mm on the top or side (or bottom lol), did i fuck up?
Where else did you think it would fit?

>as an exhaust that should be fine?
Yes, exhaust is a perfectly acceptable place to put your radiators. It'll mean slightly worse temperatures for the CPU but decently better for the GPU, as having it as intake would've heated your GPU noticeably more

>>60422552
>>60422552
>>60422552
move when needed

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PdMjQV

I have some pretty frustrating needs.
>triple-boot Windows/Linux/Hackintosh
>Cities Skylines, Civ 6, PBUG are probably the most intensive games I'll play (I would be satisfied with 1080p, and 4k -- if possible -- on old or less intensive games)
>occasional photo processing, but I imagine anything is better than the i7-3517U I use now
>small desk in a small room, so ITX+that slim case are pretty necessary

My budget is flexible from the ~$1200 here including the monitor. I could go up $100, maybe $200. But the cheaper the better.

I'm feeling I might be underestimating my needs with the Pentium, but I don't know where to begin with other Intel CPUs (can't get AMD). I'm willing to drop down to Skylake if that's suggested.

>>60422502
Bad lights?

all those rgb's remind me of the amsterdam red light district

>>60422608
4k even on older games is unlikely, unless we're talking very very old games.
You might want to get an hard drive on top of that because 500GB might not be enough for your gaming + three os + gaming needs, not sure if the case can accomodate for a 3.5" but you can always look at 2.5" hard drive too

Other than that there's not much to say, it's a pretty good build. Might wanna save money by cracking windows instead.

>>60422551
well the only places for the 140mm mount on that case are the top/side/bottom. if i got 120mm i could put it at the front and back. as well as those places. i just read online that having an exhaust at the top isnt good since you are using warm air to cool the radiator

either way it should be an imporvement from my old air cooler

>>60422711
That is true, but having it as intake would mean the GPU would be fed hot air too. Each positionnement has tradeoffs and none are the end of the world.

>>60412488
You really don't understand.

You're only measuring total airflow.
What's important is WHERE that air flows.
The problem with conventional set ups for those that have AIOs is that you get hot air flowing all over VRMs and insufficient cooling for them.
But most of your favorite, retarded youtubers don't even measure VRM temps because they don't know what they're doing.

>>60416665
What GPU should i get for my old fx6300 with 16gb ram?

>>60423765
1050

>>60423765
I have a 470 and a 6350. Works great, only rarely get any kind of bottleneck, especially with new games. Old games or shitty engines like FO4 can be hit or miss