/wt/ watch thread

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This chart should answer 99% of the questions you have about watch brands.

Let's focus on *good* horological debate, and see some wrist shots please.

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>>60318250
What's wrong with Bulovas?

>>60318400
nothing at all desu

>>60318250
Reminder that the chart you posted is wrong about Sea-Gull, and doesn't even spell it right.

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>>60318918
I was thinking this myself. Sea-gulls are, in my mind, roughly equivalent with Malaysian-made Seikos.

Anyways, wearing my new birthday watch today, ordered a brown leather band for it this morning which should get here on Friday.

>>60318976
Not a huge Hamilton fan, but I like that one.

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>>60318976

nice, these are great little watches

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To get some discussion going, how about we play the "Three watch collection" game- you get only are able to have 3 watches in your collection- budget is not considered. These three watches will be your only pieces for the rest of your life. Just to make it fun, you cannot choose watches you already have in your collection.

Mine:
1. Royal Oak, Steel, 39mm, Blue Dial
2. Datejust 36mm, two tone, jubilee bracelet
3. Speedmaster Broadarrow, original 39mm

Not the most unique selections, I know. The AP and Rolex sort of serve the same purpose, but smaller sports watches on comforable bracelets and hand-wound chronographs are my favorite types of watches. And honestly my MKII Racing would actually be my choice of chronograph, but I already own it!

>>60319203
Accutron Spaceview
Grand Seiko
Tudor Blue Pelagos

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>G757-5000 case arrived
>Crystal is still in bumfuck nowhere two weeks later

>>60319203
JLC Reverso (blue)
40mm panda Daytona
Submariner

Unapologetic redundancy in the Rolexes, I need a good diver, and a good-looking/fun casual watch in the Daytona

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>>60319203
>Grand Seiko Snowflake
Love the dial
>Orion double wheat
Great looking watches
>Seiko SARB017
The green dial makes me diamonds.

>>60319028

Wasn't this thing just on Mass Drop?

>>60318400
The accutron II isn't even a real accutron.
The precisionist movement is not thermocompensated and its rate varies with temperature and age. Sometimes it doesn't even deliver the promised <10s/yr rate.

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"Improved" my oc a little. Remember kids, don't fall for the jew

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>>60320139

reminder of why quartz is better than whatever overpriced mechanical you're thinking of buying

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>>60320167

>tfw +/-0

>>60320113
If you voted for trump...
>you fell for the jew.

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>>60319203
Vacheron Constantin Offshore Chronograph
Rolex GMT-Master Man on the Fucking Moon
Philippe Dufour Simplicity

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>>60319203

1) Grand Seiko SBGH001: In my mind the Platonic ideal of the time/date only watch.

2) A. Lange & Sohne Zetiwerk for the combination of aesthetics and ALS workmanship.

3) Vacheron Constantin Les Cabinotiers Celestia Astronomical Grand Complication: One of the few grand complications watches I enjoy aesthetically and would actually wear.

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>>60320167
That chart is a little too biased against vintage mechanicals for my taste.

>>60319203
Blue Pelagos, snowfrake, 44GS

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>>60318400
Mallcore garbage owned by the mallcore garbage master Citizen

>>60320113
Does anyone have the "Swiss Meme" rolex?

>>60321144
>service time
>take it to VC to get serviced
>"that will be $100,000, monsieur"

>>60321901
Well, I made my choices based on the money no object premise.

>be watchmaker
>spend countless hours working on a masterpiece
>some sand nigger throws it in the river to prove a point
https://youtu.be/VBIKowfbpD8?t=1m56s

>>60321761
Is there a name for that dial style that looks like a ruler, behind the seconds?

>>60321761
Which Orient is that?

>>60322518
Looks like Bambino V2

>>60322518
>>60322529
Bambino V2 first generation

>>60319203

1. Rolex Explorer (not the II)
2. Breitling Transocean 38
3. Arnold & Son Moonphase (Blue / Silver)

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Why?

>>60322907
What a deal

>>60322907
>auction is either down, or never existed in the first place

2/10, made me check.

>>60322907
>Seller: darthbidious
Fuckin kek

At what pricepoint can I expect some in-house movements and in-house manufacture?

$200? $300? $1000?

I kind of want a beater that's in house

>>60323269
$200 will get you an Orient, which use in-house movements.

>>60323269
Depends. Seiko, Orient, Vostok and Nomos are the cheapest brands offering in-house I think.

>>60323269
$150

>>60318250
No Damasko, opinion discarded

>>60323269
$50 for a seiko

>>60323427
At that price aren't all the movements from Taiwan?

ITS HABBENING!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaEID4uzjtE

BUY BUY BUY!

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pic related is my daily driver. it looks good with and without a suit on, it's durable, the alarm is piercing and easy to set (not that I ever use it).

>>60323454
If prices are coming down on pre-owned watches, and I haven't been paying attention to if they are, it might be good to buy from Archie's country from the USA. USD to AUD is currently 1.36, extreme in the last 12 months is 1.39 so we're pretty close to that.

Call up some of those aussies and hammer them on the price, and be rewarded by the favorable exchange rate.

>>60323454
If the bubble truly did burst I will probably buy me a no-date Sub non-ceramic.

>>60323269
$5 for a digital Casio.

>>60323561
Why a non-ceramic?

>>60323447
No, it would be Malaysia. And you didn't ask for country of origin.
Seiko is the most "in-house" company. Every single component in a Seiko watch is made by Seiko. Rubies, quartz crystals, springs, even the oils used for lubrification in the movement. Hands, dials, cases. Even Rolex outsources some parts. Seiko is as in-house as it gets, even on their cheapest quartz watch.

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>>60323629
Because its a tool watch not a fucking piece of jewelry.

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I got to hang out with some pretty cool watches today while dropping off my Aero-Compax for servicing. Picture quality is just from my Iphone so it isn't great.

First up is a Patek 5040P. This one was used and had a slight scratch in the case back. They were asking $46,000.

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>>60323705
This is the Cartier Mystery Watch. Really incredible to see the hour and minute hands move via the little screws at the edge of the movement. I can't imagine how hard it is to create a crescent shaped movement. They had this one marked at $54,500.

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>>60323725
These next two are from Svend Andersen. This first one is the Orbita Lunae with a moonphase calendar, the date operates as a rotating disc and the basic function is only indicated by those little lines. The dial is hand cut blue gold and it is #16 of 31 pieces ever made. I almost bought this one right then and there but at $20,000 I decided to let it stew for a little bit.

>>60323725
what the

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>>60323777
Damn. Finally got some repeating integers.

The last piece is the Svend Andersen Day and Night, or Jour et Nult, this is piece 3 out of 3 for the collection. The minute register sits at the bottom, while the two other hands operate with a moon (on the shorter hand) and sun (on the longer) on them. When the sun is rising the longer hand is pointing to the outer arc of numbers, and as the sun sets going clockwise, the moon begins to rise and runs along the inner arc. Really fascinating piece as it only clicks to each hour marker rather than sweeping. This one was at retail for $19,000.

>>60323777
>Svend Andersen
Litetally who
Those watches are ass, the prices are crazy
The Cartier is cool though.

>>60323894
>Literally who

Nigga, he used to work for Patek doing grand complications, but then quit because he wanted to do things more interesting than what Patek was doing. He is one of the godfathers of independent watchmaking and you should certainly know who he is. This thread needs more spice than Vostoks and like the three guys who own a Rolex.

>>60323931
Well why does he make shitty watches then?
>only "complication" is a minutes subdial
Wow that sure was an interesting watch!!! I'm glad he quit patek to make it!
You can literally find the double hand thing on mall citizens

>>60323989
Wait I forgot about the jumping hours. Very innovative concept, certainly worth $20k for an ugly watch.

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It's starting to look good senpaitachi.

>>60324194
sou dewa nai yo

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>>60323630
I wasn't the guy who asked about ijnhouse. Was just asking about the fact the the movement is t made in Japan on the cheapo Seikos. I still think they're worth the cost, as Seiko makes great watches though, regardless of where they make the parts.

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>>60324244
Nani?

>>60324194
Good thing is, these are so cheap that when youre done washing it in liquid and it turns out shit, you can still buy another one for 29.99!
Just kidding Id like to see the results

>>60324267
>implying that Seiko SARBs' parts aren't made in China and assembled in Malaysia as well

FYI this is the case for every Seiko under 1500€. The Japan/Japan made inscription just means that the QC was done by a Japanese Seiko employee in Malaysia/China.

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Oh my fucking god, I'm working on a shitty Police watch and I had to remove the leather strap because it stank like a gym sock and I couldn't fucking breathe.

I don't know what chink leather this is, but the straps of some manufacturers FUCKING STINK.

>>60324194
Is this a new one you're stripping to base metal?

>>60324377
Isn't it the guy's sweat?

>>60324399
I'm not sure, some brands have it all the time, some never.

>>60324394
Yea soaking in muriatic acid to remove the chrome coating on a new Bocтoк.

>>60324353
>FYI this is the case for every Seiko under 1500€.
Not that I don't believe you, but source?

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>>60324327
Pic related is the test piece. Should look nice. It's been in for about three and a half hours. Probably has another half hour to hour left until I can get a pic. Under the liquid it's so pretty, but soon as it hits air the brass starts to oxidize and becomes duller. Should still look great, and like you said even if it looks like shit it's a just a Bocтoк.

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/wt/, what is your ABSOLUTE FUCKOFF piece? Every man needs one.

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>>60324588
>>60324394
>>60324327
>>60324194
I lied it's ready. Love the way it came out. Makes me question why Bocтoк doesn't sell then as raw brass.

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>>60324691

Are there watches with a retrograde seconds movement?

>>60324637
I don't know if I have one, can you explain what this Reddit term means?

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>>60324706

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>>60324841
Case back appeared to not be brass. Also last pic

>>60324748
Archie used it to refer to a golden Sub, so I think it's used to refer to ostentatiously expensive watches. I don't want one because a. I can't afford one; b. I don't want that kind of attention, I'd either get mugged or surrounded by idiots who'd want me to buy stuff; c. It's shitty taste and lastly d. Gold is easier to scratch.

>>60324706
Nice. Kind of tempted to try this w/ my Amphibia's bezel.

>>60324869
It's an easy mod. From what I understand though you can only do it on your bezel. I have the Comrade, and to my understanding the amphibia isn't brass for the case. I would suggest if you want to do it buying a bezel from Zenitar on Ebay. He's in Moscow and gets them to the US pretty quick. Buy a second bezel and if you don't like it you can go back.

>>60324896
What did you use to strip the plating?

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>>60324919
I used Muriatic acid from ACE hardware mixed 1/1 with water. Took about four hours to dissolve away the chrome.

>>60324896
Meranom sells dot bezels without chrome in three finishes.

>>60324691
That actually looks pretty good, I might get another Komandirskie to try it out. Can you get the acid at regular hardware stores?

>>60325199
Yea I like they way it turned out. And yes I got mine from ACE hardware. Home depot and Lowes should also have it.

>>60324377
Might be camel leather, that's cheap as fuck and stinks foul.

>>60324691
what model is this anon?

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>>60324637
Mine would be one of these, I don't have one though because I'm not spending more than the cost of my car on a watch.

>>60325216
Cool, cool. Now to decide what case & dial combo would look good in brass.

>>60325240
It is model #811783 with an amphibian bezel.

>>60325255
Bocтoк has the same problem Seiko has in that there's just so many variants to chose from it's hard to only pick one.

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>>60325255
Probably something completely black like that anon did, or something completely white without other colors. For example I think my Bocтoк wouldn't look great in brass.

>>60325360
>>60325484
I was thinking either the black tank dial or the black submarine dial.

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>>60325598
>not getting the absolute 10/10 dial

>>60325484
What logo is that?

>>60324540
Not him, but I remember reading something on WUS years ago. Some nip explained Japan's labelling laws, which, though better than most, are still kinda "loose".

Basically, something can be legally labelled "made in Japan/Japan made" if it was made in a Japanese owned factory (can be anywhere, even outside japan) and final qc is made under the cruel and watchful slanted eyes of a Japanese overseer. Japanese owned and run factories overseas are counted as little Jap colonies.

So, it is accepted that only very expensive Japanese watches are actually made on that archipelago. Grand Seiko/credor, citizen campaignola/chronomasters and a smattering of others like the Marine master (that might have parts made in overseas Jap factories).

Look it up yourself. Been a while since I read it.

Japs are anal about this kind of thing, so you'll occasionally get general consumer electronics from Jap brands that are usually made in say, China, have a small production labelled "made in Japan" to sell to the domestic market because Japs won't stand for buying local brands stuff if it's "made in China". Sony did this with their prosumer cameras and a whole bunch of autists would pay extra to try and get the "made in japan" domestic editions, hoping for better QC. lol, morons got a camera where the menus were permanently locked on Jap moonspeak.

>>60325821

Like I always say, "made in" fuckery is all bullshit; it all comes down to trust.

Do I trust that GS are all totally made on those nip islands? Yes. Do I trust that all supposedly "Swiss" watches below rolex are full of shit and are riddled with Chinese made parts and labor to some degree or other or if one is lucky Chinese parts finished in germany (or of one is really lucky, actually plain made I'm Germany)? Yes.

>>60325736
Not sure, probs something to do with the airforce. I have the real airforce logo on the back of my poljot, and they are similar, but not the same. Who knows, might be a fake vostok too.

>>60325821
>Japanese owned and run factories overseas are counted as little Jap colonies.
MANCHUKUO IS NIPPON CLAY

DAI NIPPON TEIKOKU

BANZAI BANZAI BANZAI

>>60325821
Kek, Japs are worse than muslims then, with them you have to build a mosque first for it to be forever Islam clay. Looks like with the nips it's enough if a jap person is present.

>>60325709
>times new roman 12
Ew

Does anyone have the shop of a deep sea rolex that says something like shower proof and soap resistant on the dial? It was amazingly well done.

I swear i was not dreaming

>>60325992
All those Russian watches are atrocities with ironic value only.
Problem is they're all a lot the neets that infest this board can afford.
Then the funniest part is them trying to literally polish their turds.

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Is this a Hamilton clone? Saw it in a shop today for 40 quid and it is beautiful

>>60326235
they're cool cheap shit watches
the problem is that they're mechanical and 90% of them are busted as fuck and not worth repair
but good luck telling anyone here that they're better off with quartz

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I unironically like this watch. I bought it as a shitter to restore for fun and then maybe sell, but I'm definitely keeping it. Turns out the Amphibia tonneau is the GOAT case shape, maybe even better than the 710 Ministry (which I also own). Any other 090/commie tonneau owners ITT?

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>>60326331
Look at how far in that date window is, it's a shitty £3 quartz movement I guarantee it.

I got pic related from eBay for £13.28.

>>60326481
>"de luxe"

That means it's expensive and very good.

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>>60326493
Nice meming friend. It is in fact cheap and pretty good. It's a Luch 2209 manual wind movement, thin as fuck and keeps pretty good time for a 40+ year old watch.

I've got it on a cheapo lizard strap at the moment.

>>60326493
>>60326555
>>60326481
I don't want to spend $100 to service some old shit Soviet watch which was $50 when it was new
>keeps pretty good time
code for loses a day every month

>>60326606
I've only had it for a couple of weeks and haven't really measured it. It probably gains 30 seconds-ish a day at a guess.

Also it cost me £13, I'm not getting it serviced. It's not worth it, plenty more out there to replace it.

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>>60326606
If you're happy paying £40 for a chink shit Accurist with a tiny cheapo movement then go for it. It's no skin off my scrote.

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check out my le watch :)

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>>60326666
>those numerical figures

>Fallen Astronaut is an 8.5-centimeter (3.3 in) aluminium sculpture created by Paul Van Hoeydonck. It is a small stylized figure, meant to depict an astronaut in a spacesuit, intended to commemorate the astronauts and cosmonauts who have died in the advancement of space exploration. It was commissioned and placed on the Moon by the crew of Apollo 15 at Hadley Rille on August 1, 1971, next to a plaque listing the fourteen men known at the time to have so died.[1]

>The crew kept the memorial's existence a secret until after completion of their mission. After public disclosure, the National Air and Space Museum requested and received a replica of the statue. Controversy soon followed, as Van Hoeydonck claimed a different understanding of the agreement made with the astronauts and attempted to sell up to 950 copies of the statue. He finally relented under pressure from NASA, which has a strict policy against commercial exploitation of the US government space program.

>NASA, which has a strict policy against commercial exploitation of the US government space program.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallen_Astronaut

Isn't that basically the same to what Omega does with their Speedmaster bullshit? How do they get away with this?

>>60326781
Maybe its somewhere in between him asking to do it as a comemorative piece and Omega actually taking up NASAs competition and making a watch that could survive space, therefore making them a private company offering a (later on) commercial product, not asking for permission or anything

>>60326702
That straps colours don't fit the watch at all. Just get a simple black/navy blue/bond striped nato.

>>60326864
>bond striped nato
looks like total shit, green really clashes
then again maybe my strap is simply too brightly colored, I did buy some dye to fix it
I have a grey/black "bond" as well and it also doesn't look great
I think the best would be black or black/bright blue as I've seen before

>>60326855
>Omega actually taking up NASAs competition and making a watch that could survive space, therefore making them a private company offering a (later on) commercial product, not asking for permission or anything

Makes sense, but they still exploit profit on that whole "moon watch" thing, engraving stuff, and making releases that has no connection whatsoever to the original moon watch, labeling them with the whole "moon/space concept".

Also, "NASA, which has a strict policy against commercial exploitation of the US government space program." Sound more like as a whole NASA has an issue with subjects exploiting the space programs, not necessary only on that particular fallen astronaut case.

>>60326960
By bond strap I meant the grey/black Spectre strap. I agree with you on the Connery strap though

>>60323514
Ghastly. Especially with a suit.

>>60327122
This. Wear it with casuals; with a suit that shit is glaring.

>>60327064
Meh, Ill never own a watch that unneccesarily expensive and inaccurate expensive so IDGAF about the history

>>60327064
>>60326781
The statue was made for NASA, the Speedmaster was a commercialy available product before being used by NASA

>>60328133
Why are your spring bars showing anon? Have some decency and cover up.

>>60323998
>>60323989
Damn man, you don't have to buy the thing. Just appreciate learning about a new piece and cool your autism. If you don't like it thats fine.

>>60328208

From putting the strap on. Leather didn't bounce back to how it was before I put it on.

>>60328376
Shit leather mate

>>60328416

It's vegetable tanned lambskin. Very soft and my first time working with it, much softer than cow.

>>60324691
>>60324588
Pretty good. Great to know muriatic acid doesn't damage the paint nor the plastic dome too.

Now the real question is, how will it age, and how bad it will smell? It looks great but I'm afraid that won't last.

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are these straps comfy?

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quick /wt/

should I get SKX Japan or K Malaysia version?

>>60329408
doesn't matter, see >>60325821

>>60329408
The consensus seems to be that there's zero difference outside of the additional text on the dial, and the price.

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Remember wristlets, overhang is not classy.

>>60329538
>The consensus seems to be that there's zero difference outside of the additional text on the dial, and the price.

I don't know anything about watches and should kill myself

the post

>>60329055
Genuine Speidels are. Chinkshit is horrible.

>>60330163
Enlighten us with your wisdom.

>>60329055
In a sense. They won't squeeze your arm, but they'll pull every hair out.

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Miss me yet?

>>60325250
>I'm not spending more than the cost of my car on a watch.
Fucking casuals.

>>60330389
We love ur grando seikoshi mate

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Thoughts on the sumo?

>>60330389
>shitty edition
>discontinued
>vintage crap

>>60330641
Pretty cool

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>>60330641
Woops, wrong style of hands on that one.

Supposedly the case finish is really nice, so could the sumo hold its own with a suit?

>>60330641
If that hadn't been a limited edition I would already have one. As it is it requires way too much work to look good.

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/wt/ - show me a watch more suited for every occasions, more perfectly sized at 39mm and at a better price point? I mean yes its a Rolex, and yes its $4k+ but most of us either spent $3k+ on guns and another $2k(every few years) on a gaming PC build. So at $4k for something that will stick with you forever so its worth it, and if you lose or break it then fuck off you can afford another one. Its an obtainable goal, yet its a great first watch to begin your collect as well...

>>60330705
Not as cool.
And no, it wouldn't fit with a suit.

>>60330776
I prefer the 36, and the maxicase means it wouldn't fit for the dressiest occasions. But yes, it's a fantastic all-rounder.

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Is the chronograph the most useless popular, modern complication? Does anyone here really like them? They put me off a watch entirely.

Why is for example pic related the most sought after steel sports rolex? For its predecessor there were waiting lists for years to get it. Shit, people were paying vastly inflated prices for the STEEL variant. I think at one stage it was almost cheaper to get the white gold version. All hype, I understand hype for a particular release.

But the chronograph itself? Anyone here use one on a regular basis? For what purpose? If your occupation required it you'd be using something more precise (if you're in research or athletics or whatever, a fucking electronic stopwatch).

The most common reason I would read on the net for using the chrono function was for
>timing muh steaks
Seriously, that's it. Must've read it a bajillion times.

Some people may just like the look, okay whatever, but I just don't get it. It clutters a watch dial (fucking breitling) and I find it totally useless and have never seen an instance where a chronograph in a modern watch has been useful in any meaningful way. Okay there was that one time during a lab when our stopwatch fucked up and we needed to finish the experiment and the taiwanese boy had some quartz wristwatch chrono that saved the day, but come on. A day, date, calendar, power reserve, fucking moonphase is more attractive than a chrono feature. I think the only chrono I could stand owning is one of those habring's with the crown pusher system, so that there's not 3 extra crowns on the watch and the dial and bezel aren't littered with a tachymeter scale that NO ONE ever uses nor knows how to read (anymore).

Spent the afternoon trying shit on; everyone around me was trying on ROO's and other heinous shit and I just don't see the attraction.

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>>60330776
New? Yes it's a great choice and the entry level stuff is probably the best.

Used? Rolex has the 14270 Explorer I and 16570 Explorer II both under $4000 if you shop around and I think those would be better options overall and more collectible. Plus if you don't mind small pieces the ultra vintage area has "bubbleback" Rolex watches that often go for less than $5000 fully serviced and in perfect condition, including solid gold, certified chronometer ones.

>>60330941
I'm probably going to wait for a used 39, looking at $3500-$3750.

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Seiko monster FTW

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>>60331145

>>60330922
>It clutters a watch dial (fucking breitling)
not sure what you mean, the slide rule is the thing that "clutters" the navitimer, not the chrono

Anyway, I'm not a fan of chronographs either, because I don't like multiple subdials. The exceptions, that I actually love, are chronographs with one or no subdials. Two are sometimes acceptable. Three are always shit.

However, from a mechanical perspective, the movements in chronographs fascinate me. I just love a rattrapante, or seeing the back of a Datograph. But wearing a chrono day-to-day... No.
Unless it's a single-register or a Chronostop.

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>>60330922
>Timing employee's breaks
>Timing how long it takes your girlfriend to get fucking ready when you have plans.
>Timing how long you can continuously pee after you wake up in the morning
>Calculating fuel reserves on an airplane if your gauges get fucked
>Dead reckoning calculations
>The beauty of high end chronographs is almost unmatched by other watches.
>Timing artillery shots
>Maybe you're just fidgety and want something to play with like the pushers on your watch
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm628c3sgt8

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>>60330853
>it wouldn't fit with a suit.
Why not?

>>60320017
dunno

>>60331176
what a cool watch. i didn't know what the inspiration for that RGM watch was.

>>60331182
the reason james bond wears a watch in the movies is purely marketing. if you think movies are a good indication of how to live your life, maybe you should take the time to sit and think a little about yourself.

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>>60331182
Because you're not getting payed $10,000,000 in exchange for wearing it in a series of movies.

And in the actual books James Bond is wearing a Rolex Explorer which is small and understated enough to actually pass as a dress watch.

Plus there are actual, normal dress watches you can wear.

>>60331225
Enjoy.

http://www.thehourlounge.com/en/vacheron-constantin-discussions/us-army-corps-engineers-watch-went-war-573549

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Does Orient make anything like this in a wristwatch variant?

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>>60331240
The Omega is marketing, in the novel Ian Fleming wrote that James Bond wears and Explorer I. Ian Fleming himself wears the same watch. In fact you can view Ian Fleming's Rolex Explorer 1016 in the Rolex museum.

This alone is why I will never buy an Omega, even the MOTFM.

>>60319203
i really couldnt live with just three watches desu

>>60321144
2 of your watches are novelties you cant really wear on the wrist senpai

>>60331338
WZ0341EL

>>60331240
>>60331273
People have been wearing submariners with suits since forever.
If it's decently finished and has the right design elements, there's no reason it can't go with a suit.

A tux is a mighty stretch though.

>>60331364
Cool, thanks. Shame it's so much more expensive.

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>>60331356
Rolex was actually offered to continue being the James Bond movie watch, but the studios wanted money and Rolex considers it undignifying to have to pay to get someone to use it as they feel their watches stand on their own merit. Meanwhile, at Omega, they paid literally ten million dollars to have Pierce Brosnan and Daniel Craig wear their Omega Seamaster Man in the Fucking Marketing Departments.

I freely admit to being a Rolex fanboy and will infinitely choose them over any Swatchgroup watch.

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Is this a copy of anything?

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>>60331412
Agreed, its also the reason why all Omegas except for the Speedy Pro turns into absolute dog shit in the 2nd hand market. That being said Rolex is not infallible, I will be the first to admit that their Datejust 41mm is a bad decision designed to appeal to niggers and chinks.

>>60331453
I hope not, it looks like shit

>>60331471
Because besides the speedy and old constellation/seamaster series it's generic ETA-powered Swatch/Tag Heuer crap with gaudy godawful designs.

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>>60331471
Apologies, for posting a Rolex with a fake crystal...

>>60331412
>>60331356
>>60331273
>>60331240
Omega isn't the reason James Bond wears dive watches with his suits.
And it wasn't because of a marketing deal either; Fleming was a distinct present on the sets, and he insisted it be a Rolex, and the producers felt the submariner was a good fit.
Get your facts straight.

>>60331688
Your grammar makes it very difficult to take what you said seriously. We are not talking about Sean Connery's James Bond btw. I suggest you reread the conversation before interjecting.

>>60330776
>Oyster Perpetual Date
>no date

ok

>>60331788
where the hell did you read "date"?

>>60331788
Where did it say 'date?'

>>60331767
>Your grammar
Only mistake I see was writing "present" instead of "presence".
I hope you're not referring to my use of the subjunctive.

>We are not talking about Sean Connery's James Bond btw.
We're talking about dive watches with suits.
People are claiming Bond wears dive watches with suits because of Omega money.

>>60331176
>>Timing employee's breaks

down to the fraction of a second right?

>>60331809
The conversation changed from Diver Watches with suits to why James Bond switched from Rolex to Omega. I know its hard for you but please try to keep up.

>>60330922
>>timing muh steaks
>Seriously, that's it. Must've read it a bajillion times.

If you steak is off by a few hundredths of a second it can be ruined

>>60331806
Explain to me what the word "Perpetual" on a watch means if not related to the date/calendar

>>60331800
>where the hell did you read "date"?
see >>60331874

>>60331874
That's what rolex calls automatics genius

>>60331874
perpetual winding.

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>>60331874
>>60331899

>>60331874
it's the winding rotor.
by the way, there's no actual oyster in the watch.

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/kerbedanz-maximus-worlds-largest-wristwatch-tourbillon

Oh my fuck

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>>60331955
So uhh what's the time?

>>60331979
Fuck the time.
Almost three centimeters tourbillon. As big as some whole small calibers.

>>60331955
I just finished watching 3 hours of hardcore man on man bondage porn, yet that watch is the gayest thing I have seen all day

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What does /wg/ think of the LV?

>inb4: Should have got a 40th black dial LV
>inb4: Maxi-case triggers

>>60332049
I don't know what the LV is.

>>60331853
>>60331767
How the fuck is Connery's Bond not relevant to a discussion on Bond switching from Rolex to Omega?

Also, lmao@u for trying to ridicule someone for correctly using the subjunctive.

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>>60331453
Well there's this. For all I know there's some Patek that JLC took the design from.

>>60324377
It's sweat and skin cells. I boil the strap to my gym/outdoors watch if I sweat into it.

>>60318250
whats wrong with invicta?

>>60332049
Hey can you unscrew that crown and retake the picture?

>>60332049
Nice Polex.

>>60330776
>tfw I will never have $4,000

>>60332164

For what reason?

>>60332180

Lol i see what you did there

>>60332059
It's an abbreviation for 'Green Bezel' in frogspeak.

>>60332049
I'd go with a plain black no-date Sub if it were my wrist. Colorful dials look better on non-divers in my opinion.

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>>60332188
Just... Curious...

>>60332226
>It's an abbreviation for 'Green Bezel' in frogspeak.
I didn't know what LV stood for, but I speak French, and thanks to your explanation I can now say it stands for "Lunette Verte".

Pls respond.

>>60332183
Apply yourself

>>60331688
To be fair, if someone like bond WERE to have and wear a watch, it'd probably be some kind of diver. He was supposed to be a naval commander. I know, I know
>muh flemming explorer
but it makes more sense, story wise. Now, I doubt the original producer thought about this when then choose that particular model, but whatever. Didn't the director or producer just happen to have that watch on hand at the time?

By the way, that ref. for the original submariner seen in the connery bond films? It looks fucking TINY compared to the swollen, oversized bullshit chinkbait we have today.

There are dress watches today that look more robust. If they weren't going for crazy stupid ludicrous prices I'd love to have one. It retains an elegance it's latest incarnation has failed to obtain, and IT was an actual tool watch, not a piece of jewelry/toy for men.

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>>60332237

...ok

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>>60331338
Monarch

>>60332096
TBF, it would likely be the other way around considering patek's done jack shit up until very recently and JLC's been the one supplying them with so many of their calibres an thus dictating what kind of complications and layouts they can have in the first place.

If JLC horror stories weren't so dire I'd love to have one.

>>60332360
Put your dad's watch away anon before you scratch it.

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>>60332338
iirc Fleming never specified the watch, just stuff like "luminous markers" and "oyster bracelet" or something.
He also had Bond scuba diving with it, so there's a good chance it was a sub all along.

>compared to the swollen, oversized bullshit chinkbait we have today
Personally I have average wrists (7"), but I do like bigger watches. A lot.

Pic related, my wrist with a 45mm transocean.

>>60332447

Lol.. I am the dad ;)

>>60332514
Tell your son to put your watch away before he scratches it.

>>60326397
I want that dial for a brass one so bad.

>>60332338
It was the 50's equivalent of a g-shock, but more aestethic and priced somewhat reasonably

The modern subs are jewelry

>>60318158
Fucking hell /g/, bought a f91w the other day.
Been wearing it for about a week now, I think I like it more than my seamaster.. What is wrong with me? I dont want to sell my omega, because I'm afraid I'll want to use it again. What do?

>>60332511
That works well on you. I'm just used to seeing these things on asian wrists.

I mean, the 16610 and 14060 kind of subs and dwellers were fucking FINE, for any size of wrist. That sorta sub I can see someone wearing with a suit. The new one I must admit is technologically superior, and it's actually still 40mm, but it looks chunkier and not as nice.

Hey, maybe i'm just salty that the ceramic GMT master (the black and yellow one) will never look right on my girly wrists. I mean, it doesn't look right on anyone around me, but I can't bring myself to go with the flow.

I went to a couple of watch shops today to try shit out with hilariously tragic results. I took some pics that /wt/ can raff over later, but I'll say that you never really know just how much of a wristlet you are until you try on the watches you've been salivating over online, in the flesh/metal.

>>60332650
Donate the F91W to your nearest mosque

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>>60332650
Do like Stormin' Norman, but replace your Al Qaeda watch first.

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>>60332738

>>60332772
>Trudeau's dad
>muh gommunism
>scratching watches made by ebil cabitalists
>"that'll show em"

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>>60328806
As it ages it'll develop more character imo. Should start turning a darker brown. You could clear coat it, but that defeats the point for what I want.
I might get another one though, remove the dome and do a full polishing and clear coating to see how it would look.

>like Seiko a lot
>can't get myself to pay $ 1k for a Seiko and would rather save up 4x the amount for a European watch

Am I dumb?

>>60333687
yep

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>>60324353
>>60324540
>>60325821
Here's a WUS threads I dredged up explaining this:

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f21/where-seiko-watches-really-made-juicy-mistake-1084156.html

The one I saw was older than this, but I can't find it anymore and they pretty much corroborate each other.

Hey guys, thinking about getting my son a watch for his birthday in june. I want to get something respectable but not so expensive he is afraid to lose it or whatever. Any hot tips?

>>60332514
stop shaving your arms you ffs

>>60333887
How much are you willing to spend on your wife's bull's son, faggot?

>>60333917
say $500-900

>>60333887
If he gives a shit about watches, Seiko 5.

If not, get a decent quartz, it's more about looks at that point.

Unless your son needs to be on time WITHIN THE SECOND and can only reset his watch once a year.

>>60333944
Been looking at a seiko 5 actually.
Never had a seiko, I take it theyre alright?

>>60333938
If you specifically want to get a mechanical watch,
- if you want a swiss watch, get a Hamilton field khaki
- if you want a swiss dressier watch, get a Tissot le locle (don't do this)
- if you want a dressier watch, get a Seiko SARB
- if you want a less dressy watch, Seiko diver

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>>60333909
>stop shaving your arms you ffs
>you ffs

>>60334095
>Hamilton field khaki
14
15
16

>>60319203

Rolex Submariner black no date
JLC Ultra Thin tourbillon
IWC Portuguese blue hands

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>>60323514
>>60327122
>>60327256
Fuark ouch, noted. Is pic related suitable to wear with a suit?

>>60335699
Not really. Get a dress watch.

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>>60335892
Ok, thanks. I have pic related but it's kind of a piece of shit (the company went bust last year so I guess it's rare now?). It'll do in a pinch though.

What watch styles can I wear with a suit? Are all chronographs out of the picture? What about a muhle glashutte terrasport?

>>60336093
Really, anything dressy. Personally, I don't find chronographs or anything with more than one subdial dressy at all. Non numeric indices are a plus.

>>60332511
that doesn't look anywhere near 45

it looks great, is it comfy?

I'm going to pick up a seiko turtle for the pool this spring/summer.

any objections?

>I do like the cushion case
>it looks comfy
>I have large wrists so 44mm is no problem

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What are you up to today /wt/

How much would the maintenance for a $200-$300 watch be? They can't be more than 20, 30 dollars, right?

>>60336745
no, cheap watches aren't 'cheap' to service.

it just depends on how much you like the watch (if you want to invest money in servicing it, to keep it alive).

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>>60318250
>hublot, cartier and richard meme that high

>>60336341
Is it a salt water pool?

Who else here

/sellingoffotherhobbiestoaffordthewatchhobby/

How accurate are you able to get your Vostoks /wt/?

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Don't get these straps. They're fucking horrible and fray immediately.

>>60336900
yep

>>60336914
me. scuba gear's about to go on ebay. some classic car stuff's going to go too.

I'm afraid I'm a watch junkie at this point.

>>60323066
I'm sorry to say, but it's real
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bagelsport-Mens-Rolex-Milgauss-Homage-Watch/302306922194

can you wear a flieger on a nato (say khaki or olive green)?

>>60336745
My John Alden pocket watch which is easy to service was $200. Expect $150-300

>>60337520
Fuck me dead that's ridiculous. Surely the top bidder is going to try and cancel, no one could be that retarded.

god damn pederast trumpanzee trolls have kicked out the best posters

>>60337868
no they just realized that returning to reddit was the best course of action
you should consider the same

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Thoughts?

>>60336962
This looks like a nice watch, is it mechanical?

>>60339368
Yes. Lurk more.

>>60334003
Seiko represents good value at pretty much all price points. The 5 are pretty good as an introduction to mechanical watches, because they're cheap enough that you won't worry about damaging them, but also well made enough that they will wisthand some abuse. And they have a display caseback.
They're not prestigious if you're looking to impress people, mind you. As a Japanese brand that also makes very inexpensive watches, they don't have the clout of a "Swiss made" brand.

>>60336341
No, it's the best value for entry-level-but-not-cheap divers. Get one on a bracelet if you can, it's pretty good.
Just be wary of the misaligned chapter rings that seem to plague all inexpensive Seiko divers.

>>60336677
Exams. I've been in school for 21 years now, I can't wait to have a real job and start buying way too many watches.
SNK803 on the wrist to time my naps during the exams.

>>60336840
Hublot is debatable. Cartier makes great designs, and uses good movements. RM makes a few great things as far as materials go, and some great movements. They're respectable watch companies, even if you wouldn't wear their products.

>>60337564
Yes. I much prefer the look of them on riveted leather straps myself, but natos are fine. They're military watches after all.

Is there any place to buy Oris watches online in Europe? All the shops I see are US based, which means VAT and taxes. Do those shits want me to go to a retail shop for Oris and horribly overpay?

>>60339393
I don't really follow Russian watches, why would I need to lurk moar?

>>60339688
So you're not asking obvious questions.

>>60337520
>this listing has been removed.

>>60339710
I guess I could have just google shturmanskie, which I now did, oh well

>>60339182
How many warning signs are you going to ignore?
>retails for $500 but you can get it for the low, low price of 99.99!!!!
lol, do you buy shit off infomercials too?

Junk chinese made case, cheap dial and hands, chinese movement that will probably be full of lint and metal shavings. Supposedly a seagull movement but wouldn't bet on it, likely a seagull clone which makes it even more of a piece of shit.

>41.5mm diameter, dressy dinner plate
>aK ADEE KAYE
fucking retarded made up name.

kek

lurk more

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>>60339791

>>60339182
>>60339791
"aK ADEE KAYE" literally sounds like something a down syndrome potato would shout loudly when he's hungry.

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>>60339625
It's fucking statistics too. What a shit subject.

>>60326666
Autism/10
Proper quads tho

>>60336677
>>60339625
Eyy, I'm dealing with exams too amigo. Just finished my advanced quantum mechanics final, cramming for my instrumentation final tomorrow. Wearing my Tissel flieger for maximum readability.

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Phucking kek

>>60336341
I like mine, runs about 2-3 seconds fast per day.

Why these threads slowed down dramatically during the last few days? Less trolling?

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>>60336329
To be fair, that ceramic black bezel defines the visual size, and it is only 43mm.

Still, the lug-to-lug is a respectable 52mm, so it's by no means a small watch.

>is it comfy?
This was at a local Seiko store, so I just kind of draped it over my wrist.
But that bracelet is supposedly double-jointed at every link, and it widens to 24mm towards the watch head, so it wouldn't allow the watch to flop around.

Also, dat fucking dial mang. See pic.

All-round beautiful watch, surprised there's so little buzz on the internet about it.

>>60332574
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VOSTOK-AMPHIBIAN-Dial-Zifferblatt-510-NEU-NEW-/122444755655

I think it's an Amphibian-only dial so it'll only exist with 31 jewel markings. And 18 jewels for the old ones, maybe a few 21 jewels ones.

>>60332338
Actually the "real" James Bond of the books is more of a war veteran than a gentleman spy, drinking whiskey rather than martini, smoking like a mad man, and wearing "cheap disposable watches" which is mentioned countless times.

There's just one occurence where he wears a Rolex. That's it. Otherwise OG James Bond would have been the type to wear Casios, Seiko 5s and Amphibias. A "cheap japanese wristwatch" is mentioned I believe, also I seem to remember he stole that Rolex from the wrist of a dead bad guy, so it wasn't even his watch.

It's pointless to argue what watch a fictional character wore anyway, especially when it's become nothing more than pure marketing. Same with cars, guns, drinks... about anything he ever used. The books themselves were filled with product placement; it's no surprise James Bond later became that huge commercial franchise, because it was one from the start.

Everything else is just role playing and autism.

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This is the all time most based casio watch. CA53W > F91W

>>60340988
You have this all wrong bub.

The cheap Japanese watch is given to him by a Japanese character, merely for expediency.

The Rolexes Bond uses in the novels are watches he bought for himself, because Rolexes were very much the G-shocks of their day. Before quartz, if you wanted good time AND ruggedness at the same time, you paid a hefty sum.

>he stole that Rolex from the wrist of a dead bad guy
That was a solid gold one, and this occurrence was several novels into the series.
Nothing to do with all the rolexes he owned before and after that.

>>60339944
That's pretty neat handwriting. What pen is that?

>>60340905
I suppose that's a small price to pay for such a cool dial. Thanks for the link.

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>>60318250
I see no Raketa.

I know you're going to hate me for this, but Steinhart or Cuck Ward?

P.S. neither is not an answer

>>60341367
fuck you neither
>>60341367
>I know you're going to hate me for this
no hate
just contempt for a creature that cannot muster the willpower to save up for something better

disgusting

>>60341367
I seriously recommend getting a Seiko or something.

Neither shithart nor shit ward have any semblance of QC, and their designs are dogshit.
That's just on top of the fact that they're the pinnacle of soulless """"Swiss made"""" bullshit with mass-produced outsourced movements being slapped into Chinese outsourced cases.

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>>60341098
You should read the books anon and not just parrot what autists say on the internet.

James Bond is shit anyway, Jason Bourne is where it's at.

>>60341394
>>60341407
I'm basically looking for a smaller diver. Would buy the 40mm Oris 65 if I lived in US, but in Europe they're way overpriced and importing from US would still be not worth it, considering it's a base ETA.
Now Steinshit, I'm hoping the rumors that they're making a 39mm watch is true, the only thing that bugs me is that it is a Rolex fake, (((homage))) if you will, still not sure how I feel about that. Co.ward designs are just ugly, just looked at some pictures and decided that there is no way I'm getting it.
Seiko, yes, I though about the 013 when I was in Japan, but here again it's a bit overpriced and the 7s26 is an outdated movement, imo (not that 2824 isn't, but at least it hacks)
Basically, what I want to say is that there is no nice smaller diver in the low end

>>60333821
>a female engineer who works for Seiko named Keiko

Like pottery.

>>60341477
The SKX013 isn't overpriced by any stretch.
ESPECIALLY if you're buying one in Japan.

>>60341470
I accept your concession of defeat.

>>60341523
But it is a whole lot more expensive than the 007 and I'm no longer in Japan. Don't get me wrong, I'm in no rush to buy a shitter, just wanted to hear peoples opinion. I'll probably buy some 20 buck soviet vintage watch to scratch an itch and see what's available in a couple of years

>>60341477
>he only thing that bugs me is that it is a Rolex fake, (((homage))) if you will, still not sure how I feel about that.
if that's how you feel about it now, you'll never be able to shake that feeling. If your first though was "wow, that's a nice looking rolex knock off" and not "wow that's a nice watch" then I recommend laying off.

Have a look at the citizen NY2300. Shorter lug to lug than the 013 seiko and it's 38.5mm.
Citizen autos are fine. I have a NY0040 that's serviceable enough and even that's not too large. Don't know how much they cost where you are. The round cased vostok amphibia's are quite small in person, too.

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>>60341477

Just get the skx. It's the ThinkPad of automatics.

>>60341797
Why? Turtle is only slightly more expensive and light years better.

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>>60341869

It's also 7mm larger.

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>>60341477
There is this, which is about the same size as the oris 65 (12mm thick, 41mm dia, 48mm lug to lug).

>>60341982

Link to product?

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>>60342032
http://halioswatches.com/seaforth/

Coming Soon™

Or in a couple weeks, really.

>>60341943
What's your wrist size? Have you ever tried a 007? Just re-measured my wrist and apparently it's 7 inches, I have some watches with 46-48mm lugs and they fit ok, now I'm even considering a turtle, lol

>>60341869
How is the turtle better?
noob here

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found one of these certinas for sale, serviced and in great condition

28-10 in-house movement and all but i really couldn't find any others on sale, what kind of a price should i pay for it?

>>60342140
Better movement, with hacking & hand winding

>>60341223
A cheap Waterman I bought in a supermarket years ago.
I got a Lamy Safari to see what all the fuss was about, and it feels really cheap and writes way too large (I got the fine nib but it's like twice as large as my waterman). And I can buy cartridges for the waterman anywhere instead of having to use the piston converter and fucking bottled ink.
So when this one dies I'll probably just get another one from the supermarket. The Lamy was a bad meme.

The mechanical pencil is really nice though. It's a Rotring 500, and it's much nicer to use than the disposable Bic mechanical pencils I had previously. I take all my notes in pencil during lectures and it's worth it to have something good to use. That was a good meme to fall for.

That handwriting is just about the best I can do, my usual handwriting (when I take notes) is really fucking bad.

>>60342146
I personally wouldn't pay more than 100 bucks if it was working in absoulte stellar condition (ie.serviced by a non-monkey yesterday) and if I really wanted it, but I wouldn't ever want it, so only you can answer that. Older sized model, probably what, 34/35mm? Does that work for you? Scratchy scratchy acrylic crystal and utterly boring generic dress watch design from yesteryear from a company that is long past its heyday and only exists in name as another soulless member of the swatch collective. There's nothing special about that watch in the slightest. Why do you want it? How much do you value it? Pay that amount.

>>60341869
>Turtle is only slightly more expensive
About twice as expensive as an SKX from where I'm looking.

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Anyone ordered stuff from J.Borel? Specifically anyone outside the US? I need a part only they have, and I'm not sure how steep shipping to Yuropistan will be.

>>60342503
>And I can buy cartridges for the waterman
Disgusting cartridge pleb. Be sure to throw yourself out in the trash with your cartridges next time. Filthy casual.
>The Lamy was a bad meme.
Yes. Their only decent model is the 2000; the safari is okay if you're in highschool or whatever.

>>60342666
What's the problem with cartridges?

>>60342660
On creation it's only like 40-50€ more than the skx.

>>60342696
Maybe with some kind of blowout discount.

>>60342789
>>60342789

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>>60342503
>cartridge
Bottled ink is way better. Most of the really good inks aren't even available in cartridge form.

>>60342666
Lamy also happens to make the absolute best steel stub or cursive italic nibs you can get. I lie their 1.5mm stub nibs better than even any of the solid gold cursive italic nibs I've tried (that weren't custom grinds). Of course, to get a Safari to flow enough ink to keep up with the stub you have to modify the ink feed to flow way more ink, but its still cheaper than paying for a custom ground nib.

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Looking for a watch like pic related, but they're pretty rare to find and expensive. Wondering if it's possible to give it that rainbow look myself, a coat of some solution over a normal casio or something. Any ideas?

>>60343324
Did the Belorussians make it like this or is it a mod?

Also what company? I know Luch still exists in Minsk, but does Elektronika too?

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>>60342146
How much would you normally pay for samples of swiss pubic hair?