/hpg/ - Headphone General

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Don't mind me, just posting the world's best headphones.

>>60052304
OP has really been stepping it up with these images for the past couple threads.

>>60052339
You are worse than the sebenza knife posting guy on /k/

What's the go to iem between $50-100 right now?

>>60052499
Neutral? Etymotic MK5 or HF5.

Got hd599 yesterday. Have HS8 monitors and DT-880.
They're great for games, which is what I got them for. They are comfortable and I can wear them for 4+ hours without issues even though my ears slightly touch the inner sides of them.

They aren't that great for music at all though and I would use the HS8s or DT-880s for music. They sound kind of dull or muffled, there is too much bass and mids, highs are pretty low, sometimes it sounds like there is a filter over everything.

I've got hd650s coming later this week that I'm going to compare to sound and comfort wise. I hope they're an improvement in both

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>>60052339
I'm about to fall for HD600 meme.
But one question beforehand: is it comfortable?

>>60052804
HD650 is not as comfortable as the HD599 but the sound is a lot better. Do you have a DT880 Pro?

For me comfort:

HD599 = DT880 Premium > HD650 > DT880 Pro

Sound (IMO):

HD650 > HD599 = DT880 Pro = DT880 Premium

>>60052828
It is comfortable, but there are comfier headphones out there.

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>>60052367
Almost impressive that you managed to give two worthless posters attention by whining and replying. Here I am joining the club.

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I'm looking for the final solution to the skype/gaming mic question without going full autism in a full bm800/blue meme condenser mic setup
Anyone know if there are good erasers, or at least some way to DIY a quality lapel mic into a head set mic

>>60052676
Think a bit more bass.

>>60053226
Good *earsets
Like pic related

>>60053230
GR07 Bass Edition

>~$300 US
>Fulla 2
>Closed
>Neutral
>Past: Carbo Tenore, DT770.

I like the sound of the DT770's, just looking for something more neutral to complement them.

Considering the MSR7, SRH840, and DT250 so far.

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I need to get some headphones for production because i can't always blast stuff through my monitors, should i get the Audio Technica M40X or the M50X?

I'd normally tend towards the more recent model, but i've been told that the M40X actually sounds more neutral (By 1 person). Or if you have any other studio headphones recommendations in the 100-200 buckaroos range tell me about them. But they need to have detachable cables and should be closed. I am not looking for Hi-Fi headphones.

>>60053640
HD 600 with acoustic foam

>>60053754
Why don't you want free monitor burn in?

>>60052828
The 600 have a pretty flat sound, after a bit of EQing they really shine

>>60053291
Where can i find these new? Only used on Amazon.

>>60053859
I'm not sure what you mean exactly

>>60053754
>for production
Beyer dt150 or dt100. Don't buy meme reddit phones.

>>60053754
Don't listen to this >>60053902 troll

>>60053754
If by production you mean monitoring while tracking, I'd opt for the HD380 for isolation, or DT250.

>I am not looking for Hi-Fi headphones.

If you're just looking for any random closed headphone, M40x is better (will need new pads), CB-1, NVX XPT100, DT770.

>>60053873
The ones I saw that were new on Amazon are for $120+-$5 for the Bass Edition and $100 for the regular version, both being shipped from Singapore. Only difference between them is maybe a 3dB increase in midbass and slightly better bass extention.

>>60053821
Never heard of anyone doing this, seems like it'd mess up the sound.

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Since there is no speaker thread I'll ask the question here.
How do I connect an active sub to my LSR305s? Can I just use RCA Y-split?
Pic related.

>>60054032
>DT250 DT770

How many generations are these apart? Are they for different purposes or is the DT250 many years older like the name suggests? They're more expensive than DT770 though

>>60054158
>How many generations are these apart? Are they for different purposes or is the DT250 many years older like the name suggests?

Not really how that works, that's just their designation by the company.

DT770 is v shaped and has an attached cable, might be comfier.
DT250 is neutral and has a detachable cable.

>>60054101
outputs go into sub and from subs outputs go into monitors
it doesn't act as a third speaker or output, it just filters high frequencies and you only hear the low ones

>>60054235
And if the sub does not have outputs?

>Budget
I'm interested in two pricepoints. 300 euro and 600 euro. I will decide what to get depending on whether it's worth to spend 300 more. Please post both suggestion if possible.
>Location
Italy
>Source
M-audio Fast track PRO USB audio interface
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Don't care
>Sound signature
Should not emphasize bass too much, but it needs to be able to reproduce it well, since I'll be listening to a lot of electronic music.
Most important thing: TRASIENTS. There's nothing that I hate more than transients smudged by shit headphones. If they are there, I want to feel properly the pression in my ears.
>Past headphones
akg K420. Absolute winner with the transients. A tiny bit too much bass.

samsung $10 earplugs. Second best at transients. Not enough bass.

``yamaha hs5 monitors + sub''. Third best with trasients, still pretty good. Good amount of bass. Not technically headphones, heh.

Beats PRO. Meh at transients. Too much bass.

Sony MDR7506. Awful at transients. Completely fucked up frequency response. Why did I fall for this meme?


Did I do well /hpg/?

>>60053640
DT250, PM3, MDR-V6
>>60054032
DT250 is not that great for isolation.
>>60054158
Not him, but DT250 is Beyer's version of the popular MDR-V6 / MDR-7506.
>>60054209
For me, DT250 is comfier but it won't be comfier if you've got large ears as the earcups aren't roomy. Don't like the DT770's clamp.
>>60054566
I don't understand your post, look into K702, DT880 or HD600.

>>60054638
>I don't understand your post, look into K702, DT880 or HD600.

what can I explain better?

nah

>>60054658
Can you elaborate more on transients?

What's wrong with the 7506's frequency response specifically?

>>60053988
How is recommending headphones made for actual audio production to someone looking for headphones for audio production a troll?
I forgot to include dt250 though.

>>60052828
Yes, but it clamps like a motherfucker the first few days of use.

After a month or so, they're about as comfortable as HD598, which is very comfortable.

>>60052804
>yesterday
>haven't used them exclusively for a week or two
>has an opinion already somehow
Seesh. Your ears/brain do need some burn-in.
>sometimes it sounds like there is a filter over everything.
The veil™. Two ideas here:
- you're not used to them yet (highly likely, see above)
- you're not feeding them properly, such as with a motherboard with builtin amp or an external one like the Schiit Fulla 2 (unlikely, because the impedance vs freq isn't anywhere as crazy as HD598).
The TL;DR: Use them _exclusively_ for a week or two and report back.

>>60053166
Some HD600-compatible headband with cat ears would be nice.

>>60054685
>Can you elaborate more on transients?
Warning. I'm autistic.

The easiest way to get what I mean is to listen to this:

https://youtu.be/N_jhRb_9yPA?t=5s (the snare at 0:07 specifically, the others are far milder)
https://youtu.be/V5qT8EgSW7w?t=30s (the kicks *in the intro only*, the rest is too brickwalled)
https://youtu.be/8E08ij6peR4?t=11s (both the snare and, more subtly, the kick)
https://youtu.be/zhl-Cs1-sG4?t=5m52s (the acoustic drums in this track in general, but this section exemplifies it well)
https://youtu.be/YR5ApYxkU-U?t=2m55s (the drums in this track)

If your headphones reproduce well transients, you should be able to "feel" the impacts in these examples. It should completely stand out from the rest of the audio. This doesn't work for every "transient" for the exact definition of the word, especially if the transient is just a bunch of high frequencies in a synthesized snare or a similar burst of white-noise-like quality. Sometimes it's inconsistent within a single section of a track too because of careless buss compression.

It's actually difficult to find this kind of stuff, and people don't seem to appreciate it nearly enough. Makes me sad.

>What's wrong with the 7506's frequency response specifically?
Especially in the highs there are a lot of weird resonances that I've never experienced with any music playing equipment I had, including phone speakers and a lot of cheaper headphones that I have long forgotten the specifics of.

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>>60054566
>~300€
Sennheiser HD600 seems to be exactly what you want.
>~600€
For competitive with HD600 hardware you have to get near 1k€ territory, so no.
Obviously go do the research on HD600 before buying. It's one of the most reviewed headphone sets out there, so you should find plenty about it.

I just bought a pair of ATH-M50X, should I also get a Audioengine D1?

I listen to my shit using spotify. No bully.

>>60053754
>For production
For closed monitors with good isolation, look into HD380 Pro.

>>60055293
Can't polish a turd so don't bother trying, Spotify's a fine player senpai.

>>60055319
>Can't polish a turd so don't bother trying
What do you mean? I thought the M50Xs were good?

>>60055319
>Spotify's a fine player senpai
I was expecting someone to criticize not listening to FLAC songs

>>60055118
>HD600s: the greater presentation of bass really serves well in getting the point of the music across. That said, its slow transients get in the way of really enjoying the music, as if the headphone is plodding through the music.

lookss like I'll pass :( looked cool as shit too

>>60055319
>shitting on M50X

at least come up with an argument you turd

>>60055293
>Audioengine D1
I don't know this device, so I did a little googling. Found this comparision vs schiit new Fulla2 device:

The AudioEngine D1 had a headphone output impedance of 10 ohms until about a year ago when they lowered the impedance to 2 ohms.
The D1 includes USB and optical inputs (no line in so no amp only use).
RCA out is a pre out (volume controlled) at full volume it is 2V RMS (equal to standard line out).
DAC is AK 4396.
Requires a power connection for use with optical input. Phones/tablets via USB may not work, even with the external power.
Has a bright white light on the front.

Fulla 2 has a headphone output impedance of .5 ohms.
The F2 includes USB input and line in (may use F2 as amp only).
Pre out (volume controlled) and line out are separate.
DAC is AK 4490.
Provides external power option to allow phone/tablet use.
No light.
Reviewers seemed to prefer Modi+Magni over D1 back in the day.

Philips SHP9500. Worth it?

>>60055380
I'd read/watch more reviews. It's a headphone that does everything well. I do own and love mine.

I actually listened to your linked videos and they're pretty damn satisfying.

>>60055005
Sorry I still don't understand your definition fully. But I think I grasp the idea.

If you want something with a relatively neutral frequency response that allows you to hear the 'transients' without peaky highs the only headphones I can recommend to you are the Sennheiser HD600.

>>60055293
M50x doesn't need an amp/DAC due to its flat impedance.

>>60055476
Yes

>>60055354
>>60055431
They used to be a nice niche headphone when it used to be cheaper, now there's much better options for around that price or even cheaper. The comfort isnt the good imo with the stock pads and that abre headband but thats somewhat subjective between person to person. There's no soundstage whatsoever.
>inb4 'soundstage isnt real''
It still somewhat fills that specific nuche of needing a V-shaped foldable headphone for travel with a detachable cable at $150 but that's about the best I can say about it.

>>60055005
Can't tell if anon doesn't know what he's talking about, or I don't.

>>60055562
>soundstage
>real

>>60055562
Bare headband*
Niche* my typing's awful when not looking at the keyboard occasionally
>>60055576
I FUCKING KNEW IT

>>60055380
>>60055516
I'd start here: http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/very-important-sennheiser-hd-580-hd-600-and-hd-650#GZ56WKmzPYLvUWUr.97
(same, but vid) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2Es9S9tXTY
(another review I liked) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AZTKCMRzHM

I have a hard time finding anything negative about them, and by my own experience I obviously disagree with that statement you found.

>>60055615
>subjective reviews of headphones

Absolutely disgusting.

>>60054566
>>60055380
"Transients" are mostly in the treble part of various sounds. The MDR7506 has peaky low-treble and high-treble if I remember correctly, no wonder that would rape your ear.

About the HD600 having "slow transients", I would guess it's bullshit and thit gentleman wanted to say "overemphasized high-bass".

You should probably try the HD600 and EQ that bass bump out, or try the DT880 and hope the icepick in the treble won't make your ears bleed too much. Large bumps are easier to EQ than peaks if you don't have measuring equipment.

>>60055516
>>60055615

>>60055544
>Sorry
no, thank you. Since three anons recommended HD600, I'll search for a place that demoes them here. Italy sucks

>>60055575
It's very possible that due to my autism I perceive certain things in music in a weird way (like for example how the texture of certain foods that are generally popular, like a mars bar, almost make me puke).

I'm pretty good at music, though. I've played several instruments, and more specifically while I produced electronic music (after being ignored pretty much my whole life, getting 10k plays in a day after I posted a song for the first time felt better that my first bj lol) I struggled a lot with this, sometimes spending 30 minutes on a track, then wasting 10 hours on the snare track trying to find EQ, compression, saturation and hard clipping combinations that had the kind of transients I wanted, just to toss the whole track away because they ended up being either too inconsistent or the track ended up being like -6db LUFS quieter than comparable commercial tracks (yeah, I realize now how stupid that was). I think I get it a bit better now, even though I don't really produce anymore. The basics seem to be pretty simple (in theory, not in practice): the simplest "recipe" is to just have good samples/recordings, not precompressed (duh), add compression with long attack and (relatively) short release, if needed add a TOUCH of transient shaper (if possible, leave the attack unchanged and decrease the sustain by just a tiny bit, not too much or you'll have to boost unreasonably the level), then IF NEEDED, to bring back up the RMS, add a *touch* of hard clipping (you can be a bit more liberal on the snare, but pay careful attention to the kick from a variety of devices if you don't want to make a boxxy mess). If after this you need to raise too much the drum busss, you likely need to do it again, or the trasients will be too sharp and obnoxius, while almost not being able to hear the drums themselves.

I want to buy 600 or 650 but there is no place around where I can demo any. Can you explain on words what's the difference?

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>>60055936
600: a bit more treble
650: a bit more high-lows that some people seem to dislike. Also they're supposed to have matched drivers.

>>60055883
>(like for example how the texture of certain foods that are generally popular, like a mars bar, almost make me puke).
Neat example. These make me want to puke too. But it's the excessive sugar. Just looking at sugary stuff makes me nauseous.

Is 220 euro a good price for used hd600? Seems to be as good as new.

>>60055936
>>60056115
>HD650 matched drivers.
HD600 too. They match them well these days, but in the past was terrible.
>HD600 vs HD650
They're very close to each other and parts are exchangeable.

HD650 do way stronger subbass and somewhat stronger bass, at the expense of clarity of mids. Treble is less present, making them dark headphones. The design aim for these was on adding subbass for the millennials that do seem to like to "feel" the bass on their skull.

Despite that, they're considered pretty good, but generally come second to the much more neutral HD600 on reviews, which typically are sold for ironically cheaper.

>>60056158
Don't they cost 240 new?

>>60056240
That'd be a really good sale.

>>60056240
300 euro on amazon in italy ;_;

>>60055936
>>60056115
>>60056198
>>60056240
FR of both (overlapped): http://graphs.headphone.com/index.php?graphID%5B0%5D=573&graphID%5B1%5D=853&graphID%5B2%5D=&graphID%5B3%5D=&scale=20&graphType=0&buttonSelection=Update+Graph
Notice how HD650 is way more colored, with dramatically higher bass and somewhat higher mids. Notice how it's also darker, because of the much lower treble.
This graph sealed the deal for me, and I went with HD600.

>>60056283
I paid 350€ a couple month ago for them.

>>60056283
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sennheiser-HD-600-Monitoring-Headphones/dp/B00004SY4H/

can't you import them from the uk?

>>60056408
>This item does not ship to Italy - Mainland. Learn more

:(

>>60056424
have you checked the spanish/french/german amazons as well?

>>60056432
https://www.heidoc.net/amazon/amazon_global_check.php?asin=B00004SY4H

>>60056424
+ search for alternatives

e.g. quick google: https://www.bax-shop.it/cuffie-monitor/sennheiser-hd-600-cuffie-monitor

>>60056432
unfortunately yes. in germany it's 399 euro, kek

>>60056446
oh shit that's a cool web page you got there

>>60056467
That shows 280 euro for me. Maybe the place you live in doesn't have VAT, so it's displaying a lower price for you?

I searched a bit, including sketchy price comparator websites, and 280 euro seems to be the norm

>>60056515
UK here so I have 20% VAT

Let's write a Zeos review line by line. I'll start:

HEY I'M ZEOS

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>>60056424
>>60056432
Just wait.

>>60056609
>negro

WHAT DID AMAZON MEAN BY THIS?

>>60052804
>I've got hd650s coming later this week
Should have ordered HD600 instead if you like dem highs because on HD650 they are more rolled off. I think HD600 has the perfect highs balance wise, you NEED to roll off high frequencies because of how close the driver is to your ear otherwise you get raped because music is mastered on speakers and they roll off high frequencies more than headphones.

>>60056877
>you NEED to roll off high frequencies

and that's why every single pair of beyerdynamics is pure shit

>>60056953
You must have sensitive fetus ears, senpai

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>tfw you realize soundstage exists

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>mfw I've developed tinnitus

Does this shit go away? I can hardly sleep with the ringing sound

>>60056877
This. Speakers are veiled for a reason.

Why are there no good standalone DACs that go straight to headphone out. I don't need an amp.

>>60057554
I'd check the doctor.

And I suggest HD600 to prevent further earrape.

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>>60057554
In some cases yes, most of the time no. If anything, it gets worse.

>>60054566
>>60055118
Definitely try to audition HD600. Overall its a good headphone with great mids and non raping but decently extended highs. You will need to EQ out mid bass hump I think and bring up sub bass because while bass is nice and natural, stock wise it doesn't extend deep. They do great with vocals and with acoustic instruments, but they might not satisfy you with electronic music. They still have great midrange, just remove midbass hump, that helps them in every music, but they don't really have that much 'drive' for electronic music and may sound too relaxed for it when it comes to the stock sound. I think this is the achilles heel of HD600, electronic music but, I didn't mess with EQ much which may solve such issues. Post examples of an electronic music you listen to.Your other option is Beyerdynamics DT880, they have good tight bass, they sounded 'faster' to me but have a problem of an ear raping treble which you will have to EQ down.

I wanted to recommend HD700 because they are really a next step from HD600 as they get bass really nicely both quantity and quality, have dat drive for fast music and good detailed treble but at the same time they are so fucked up sound wise with slowly but surely raping treble, dip in upper mids and some other inconsistencies. I don't know why Sennheiser had to fuck around with their sound so much, I think they probably wanted it to be different from HD600/800 but not to such an extend, I heard they were made by a new RND team.

>>60057604
>And I suggest HD600 to prevent further earrape.
d-d-delete this, my dt 880s are just f-f-fine!

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>>60057622
>If anything, it gets worse.

>>60057646
Try not to focus on it, it will only get louder.

>be a stingy piece of shit and buy a plastic chinese amp or the fulla 2
>few months later the loose cheap volume knob is maxed out making me go deaf and my audio setup is now useless
I deserved it desu ne
Who wants my HD 600

Considering whether or not to give away my 668B's before upgrading. How does the bass on this compare to the HD598, 650, and 600?

>>60057717
I bought a FiiO Q1 and it still works fine a year later.
Shouldn't have fallen for the "made by fat american sausage fingers" meme

>>60057554
>waaa tintus

Man up fgt, unless its an insanely frequent one you can live with it, now imagine losing some db in high frequencies in your left ear, thats the shit. Take care of your ear anons and try avoid strong treble on headphones or limit your listening session and PLEASE GO CHECK YOUR HEARING. Everyone tells left and right about the dangers of smoking, how important are your teeth and etc. but none of thouse faggots say anything on hearing, loss of which you CAN'T recover in most of the cases if it was not your membrane but nerves and you WON'T NOTICE IT because it starts at very high frequencies. Not my words but doctor's.

>>60057717
Fulla 2 isn't chink shit. The pot will definitely not do that.

And it was released last december or so, it can't degrade THAT FAST.

After many hours of reading and some listening (sadly the only higher end headphones in store were Bose BC 25 and 35 and that wireless Sony for about 300-400 euro)

I dont know what to buy. I'll listen at home, but I'll plug the headphones in my iPhone SE.

Considering;

MX40 (89 euro)
DT 770 Pro (probably the 32ohm version, 139 euro)

Or just go cheapass and get the Sony ZX770AP (wired model, the common one is BT, 43 euro)

The again the more I read, the more I realize open cans would be better since I'll listen at home anyway. So maybe I should buy a Sennheiser?

Cant find a lot of reviews of those new models in the 500 series. My options are;

518 (199 euro)
559 (149 euro)
579 (199 euro)
599 (249 euro)

Or the HD 600 but I dont think I should run that without an amp, no? Also by this point I'm in a different price range altogether.

Tl;dr what do!? My default Apple EarPods are not cutting it at home

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HD600 Schiit Uber Stack idol trash here.

Here's some Trancing Pulse! \o/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JEzs6xytrU

>>60052304
>$100 or less
>USA
>Source PC
>Over Ear
>Closed
>Very Comfy
>Warm or Neutral pref
MDRV6, superlux, MEElectronics M6, Etymotic HF5

I was looking at Beyerdynamic 770, they look pretty comfy but they are a bit out of my price range

MDRs were nice just a bit small for my ears though

>>60057963
>518 (199 euro)
Seriously bad FR. Not neutral by far.
>559 (149 euro)
What I've read about this one is that it actually is worse than the old 558.
>579 (199 euro)
I do not even know this one, it's not on the same line as 518/558/598 and the newer 519/559/599 variants
>599 (249 euro)
Real improvement on HD598. FR comes closer to HD600. Bass is considerably less weak vs 598.

You should look at:
600 > 650 > 599 > 598 > 558 > 559

>Or the HD 600 but I dont think I should run that without an amp, no? Also by this point I'm in a different price range altogether.
It won't sound bad as the impedance is high (preventing impedance mismatch with high impedance outputs) and pretty stable across the frequency range. It just won't be very loud, probably just enough.
You can always get a dac/amp later on. Focus on your headphones, they're the most important part.

>>60057626
It's a bit over the place. Feel free to listen to just a couple of these. Compiling a lot of shit because I have to redownload my music library ;_;

>skrillex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5qT8EgSW7w
>lapfox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq6hanX0tQk
>goreshit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YL5swvxDf7c
>igorrr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nqdV5BF_rk
>maxo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8XVxN5ku-8
>mitchie M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l69v6SVoE9k
>vaguely the kind of instrumentation I use in my productions, minus the voice, and without doxxing myself
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yHLFTpyZNo
>diveo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUqgaE99L94
>death grips
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Orlbo9WkZ2E
>venetian snares
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpZY5g_9acU
>aphex twin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FATTzbm78cc
>noisia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW1kY7gUhHk
>ken ashcorp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFZKgf5WG0g
>childish gambino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayLiAVJ6vTM
>squarepusher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zypOT0RpUWQ
>daft punk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhl-Cs1-sG4
>justice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLOtl3nLR7Q

these are the artists I listen to over and over

AKG is shit, only a fool would get one

My trusty old MDR V-6's right side crapped out 10 minutes ago, luckily I have some short cable Amperiors that won't leave me out to dry. What headphone should I get to replace my V6, more or less in the same price range? Maybe a tiny bit bassier, instead of being so neutral...

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bluetooth headbones right now ~60 USD thanks

>Budget
$100 AUD max
>Location
(Western) Australia
>Source
5.1 Audigy Fx
>Type of headphone
full-sized
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
I'd prefer comfier headset since it'll be for conferences/seminars for work
>Past headphones
Plantronics gamecom 308 (got them for about $20 at the time)
A retractable or detachable mic would be a nice extra.

>>60052828
yes.
Search youtube for HD6XX PSA. Thank me later.

How are the Fostex TH-X00 headphones?

>>60059241
I've heard they're great

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Another day, another bullshit.

>>60059241
They're ok(tm)
What kind of info or perspective are you look for on them?

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It's fucking styrofoam

>>60059295
Well they're in the mail right now, I just want to make sure I didn't get memed on.

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Oh wait, nvm, it's ip infringing chinkshit. Carry on.

>>60059354
It's that 3 watt appj speaker tube amp, right?

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>>60059322
I'm not sure why they exist. They're based on a popular platform so there's lots of parts and mods available but on the other hand they're too expensive to be a project beater imo(although that's pretty much what I'm doing with them rn)
They're """closed""" but not sealed either. They sound great but are not neutral(not really a issue if you like more u/v shaped headphones). The pads and padding are comfortable but with the weight and light clamp they'll fall off your head if you lean back or move suddenly.
It's more like a headphone you have to live and deal with instead of just setting and forgetting, and like any average lay bitch you'll wonder if it's really worth living with for what you get out her.

>picture
No fucking padding, welp, say bye bye table veneer and stain.

>>60057626
HD700 is literal dogshit, never speak of it again.
>>60057791
668B has more of a punchy bass, the Sennheisers have more of a warm bass. Yeah, I'm using subjective buzzwords. I should probably kill myself.
>>60057969
>grown 30+ year old man listening to idol trash
:^)
>>60058076
Save up and get the DT770 Pro 80 ohm limited edition, it's worth it.

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>>60059381
lol yeah, bad purchase decision in my part. I did need another amp but this shouldn't have been it.
>me in charge of picture orientation

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No fucking power cord either. Good think I have like a surplus supply store in my garage. Also the shipping boxing is the packaging, no manual or anything. Just a brown cardboard box, styrofoam and the product.

>>60059491
Take the pictures horizontally, with the camera on the left side

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Alright, going on the dresser to power some teac ls-101 speakers. Chain is tv-optical out-fiio D3 DAC-amp-speakers. The Dayton audio apa150 can go back to the subwoofer.

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Everything plugged in

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And turned on. Mmm that tube glow.

No binding posts on the outputs so you'll need to use banana plugs

>>60059491
>ripoff bugle boy logo
You better give a good review, I thought about buying it at one point

>>60059711
What does an amp do?

>>60058695
> igorrr

My man, I love me sum Fryzura Konika. I might be getting what you mean by transients, or at least what you are looking for. You are looking for some fast sounds that dictate a tempo like snares, drum and bass, hi-hats and some electronic 'pops' that I can't explain like in mitchie M.

Sadly I couldn't find InnerFidelity measurements, made by an old wise fag and are quite consistent, on AKG K420 and 2 websites that provide them differ drastically on High Frequency response where one shows it having a bump and another showing them having a dip. HD600 treble is there, it's detailed without being fatiguing but it's not really emphasised in comparison to AKG or especially Beyers. Bass sound very natural but DT800 has more of sub bass. HD600 excels at this kind of music:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6q1AWnjNiU
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_vGeHAM4gM,
>especially in this IMO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSbZUU3Mp2U
But will do good with diveo, aphex twin and I think mitchie M. But for something like noisia there might be better choices like DT880. Overall I think HD600 are a good bet for you because its amazing midrange works well with all kind of music and it's overall a good all rounder. Hoverer for more bass and highs emphasis there is an option of DT880. Where I found HD600 to be lacking is in this song as I couldn't get it to really blow my ears with that electronic tempo so I had to increase the volume a lot, altho vocals were still really good.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE2khbsBMos
As far as I know Amazon has return policy and so does all of the EU so if you can't find a shop to try headphones out order HD600 and DT880.

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In a darkened room after playing for around 30mins at 1oclock
Hot as shit, faint electrical smell when I get my nose up to it, don't leave this turned on all night. That's also we're the problem is, there is no remote so after I'm done watching Mongolian cave painting for the night I have to get my comfy ass out of bed and turn it off. Poor decision on my part. But it could be a interesting conversation piece. I might find a use for it, if not, put it goes.

Soundwise it gives my nepalese moving pictographs that tube warmth they've always been missing, no not really, I don't notice much difference. Spec wise they're supposed to be distortion city but I honestly don't hear it. Maybe it's because I'm old, speakers aren't sensitive enough, not pushing the amp hard enough or just not actually playing music though it, but this amp is totally acceptable.

>>60059873
>there is no remote
You could get like a power cord extension with a power button on it, or a remote controlled outlet. I think those exist. Also, what speakers do you have and how loud can they get with it?

>>60059813
Power speakers. It's a stereo amp with 3w per channel.

>>60059853
>spice and wolf
>that particular un owen remix
>two other songs I didn't know about from artists I didn't know, that tickle the essence of my internal taste

no, you my man

>As far as I know Amazon has return policy and so does all of the EU so if you can't find a shop to try headphones out order HD600 and DT880.
Actually you're right, never thought about this. Going to order and report back

>>60058695
>>60059853
Also here what I though you meant by electronic music at first.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2ycuh7TiAg
>https://dbsoundworks.bandcamp.com/track/the-wight-to-remain-4-3-with-shopkeeper

>>60059490
>HD700 is literal dogshit, never speak of it again.

Fuck you it didn't have to be like that. They really had a satisfying bass when I auditioned them and highs were detailed, its just someone deliberatly fucked up their FR aka Grado meets Sennheiser.

>>60059727
Yeah, why I put ip infringing to describe it. It might be the case that the logo simply fell into the public domain, but they are absolutely trying to use it to trick people imo. Fucking China, man.

>>60053226
I have this shit actually, it's not bad. Voice quality is good, doesn't pick too much extra up, and fits under my K501s. Be warned that if your motherboard sound is not shielded well it will sound fucking horrible, I had to get an external sound card for it to not pick everything up.

There's something that I want to sort out with you headphone aficionados. Do you like headphones that emphasize BASS?

I tried out my brother's Gaming headset because I was curious about the comfort of it and sound quality. I put on a song that I really liked, that I've listened to a million times, and his headset super exaggerated the bass of the song. It was fucking stupid, it made the song sound terrible. It was to the point where the thumping all around my enclosed ears was painful for me. I used his headset on "my" computer btw, so there was no software bass boosting happening.

>>60060164
>Do you like headphones that emphasize BASS?
No. Patricians like myself prefer neutral headphones.

>>60060193
good boy

>>60060033
Sounds good enough

Are the Philips fedilio m1mk2s good

>>60058866
hyperx cloud

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>>60060164
Yes though nowhere near NigBass tier of gaymer headsets. I've heard my friend's Xbox headset that he uses on his laptop and that shit has retarded amounts of bass, its gross. My 668B EQ has enough bass that it doesn't make everything sound like shit without it being non-existant either.

>>60060396
He'll look like a faggot manchild at seminars.

>>60060164
No, fuck bass I hate it which is why I love HD 600

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>>60060464
HD600 has too much bass.

advice for decent and decently cheap bluetooth IEMs?

What happens when the green lines go hit the 0dB mark?

Another concern, I was watching Drive earlier with my new sr850 headset and noticed that there was this odd thing where the audio would sort of go very low after someone said something, and then pick back up, I wouldn't say that it muted itself, but I can't explain what is causing this.

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>>60060574
Fuck

>>60059241
I ordered one an hour ago

>>60060574
Is loudness equalization enabled in windows sound settings or something?

>>60059908
As far as Germany goes on many goods including electronics you have a return policy of 14 days without need to put a reason for it but now I am unsure how it is for Italy altho it should probably be the same and I think amazon has 30 days return on electronics so look it up yourself to be safe.

>https://www.amazon.it/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_200911430_aor?nodeId=201573940

>>60060653
I tried looking for something like the loudness equalization you mentioned, but the only thinf I see is actual volume and sample rate, which is set to default at 48000 hz, 2 channel, 24 bit

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Need an opinion here (trigger warning)

I would like some decent cans that I can enjoy sitting down for long periods of time but also maybe while on the go.

So getting some cans like m40x or meze 99 seem decent options, but I have also noticed that there is for the price of m40x SoundTrue Ultra in ears with the Bose tips that seem to be pretty nice. I would just jump on the Meze 99 (with apprehension for the sweat from closed back leather) but the SoundTrue appear to have weirdly exceptional audio AND consistent complaints about overwhelming bass for Meze 99 so I now barely can see what the point of over ear cans have sans for the soundstage of open back.

Pic related, Bose IEM

>>60060721
It sounds like there might be some kind of software that's trying to mess with the volume if it randomly goes quiet like that

>>60060766
I don't want to point any fingers at vlc, but i'll do some testing, may come back for some help if I can't find what's acting funny.

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>>60060464
I was wondering when you'd show up.

What's the most comfortable IEM aside from custom for under $400?
Currently have 1more triple drivers, which are great except for laying down.
Looked at Pinnacle P1s, which seem hard to drive from a smart phone. Also looked at CA novas, which seem a bit uncomfortable.

>>60061198
Check joker's reviews.

>>60061198
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/aaw-a3hpro-hybrid-3-way-ciem
why not custom?
there's some pretty good deals out there

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>Budget: 120 (CAD)
Flexible but not by too much assume ~10 before taxes, shipping, & handling
>Location: Canada
Btw I am shopping from AliExpress any app deals are appreciated but not necessary. I will be willing to use amazon/other sites on this if only they can have a better deal.
>Source: My cellphone, & computer primarily.
So it requires the traditional 3.5 mm audio jack.
Although I also NEED wireless functionality.
>Type of headphone: Wireless w/ wired functionality
>Open or closed: Closed
>Comfort level: I should be able to used it for 8 hours w/o feeling physical irratation. Sound quality is a top priority. I would be willing to go dow nto 4 to 6 hours but onyl if the sound quality is that amazing.
>Sound signature: Nothing in particular. But I usually listen to various electronic music, classical music, & many songs by male & female vocalists. So anything that offers the best quality over a wide spectrum is appreciated.
>Past headphones: Sony MDR-XD200 (current) I know it's old as shit. I need an upgrade. It still works though.

I have had other ear/head phones in the past by sony & other dollar store brands. I don't recall any of them.

Essential features that I need in summary:
-Needs aptx support (I don't want to lose any audio quality b/c of lack of wires)
-Bluetooth 4.0 or greater
-supports memory card (like an sd/ mini or what ever)
-It can be wired (with a 3.5 mm jack) & wireless
-It should be able to accept cellular phone calls
-reliable
-durable
-good quality & relatively easy on the eyes
-long battery life.

Bonuses (but not necessary)
-app support
-waterproof

I will be using this primarily for music on my long ass commutes and if I can be bothered for gaming (not required but a good mic is helpful).

Btw any headphone in question at the very least should be able to surpass Bluedio T3+ overall.

Thanks in advance; for all helpful posts. Pic semi-related.

>>60061328
I highly, highly doubt whether you could get something like that for 120 CAD, let alone 500.

>HD380 Pro
>HM5
or
>XPT100

>HD 600 owners think they sound neutral because they can't afford a subwoofer
>HD 600 owners think they accurately reproduce sound because they have never been to a concert in their lives

>>60061453
Can you name 5 more neutral headphones that you can buy today?

>>60060164
The bass is fucked up so you can hear footsteps in CSGO

>>60061477
(not him)
I can't do that because i haven't looked into the subject of headphone neutrality all that much
but the 600 is not neutral with such a dib in the low frequencies

>>60061555
That's incorrect, it has too much bass as you can see here:
>>60060480

Audio Technica ATH-AD700X
y/n

>>60061312
Thought they'd be a lot more expensive.
Thanks, I'll look into these.

This dude got a free HD6XX for making a joke
http://imgur.com/gallery/qxVjf

>>60061657
Is it wrong that I want one of these even though I have HD650 and HD600 already. Why am I such a consumerist whore?

>>60061565
That's not too much bass, that's a slight upper bass hump bleeding into mids and rolled off low end.

>>60061731
It's neutral at 30Hz though. 1kHz is the reference point for neutrality.

These headphones are very neutral.

>>60061443
HM5/XPT100 are the same headphone, 380Pro if you need absolute isolation.

>>60061693
You can't help it, neither can i.
I always want more. I have the LCD2 but i still want the th900, lcd4, zmf ori, i want it all lol.

Should I EQ shp9500?

>>60061743
FR is relative to itself. The mids are boosted and sloping down until 1khz. That the response at 30hz is the same magnitude as at 1khz doesn't mean it's not rolling off from 100hz.

But yes it's pretty neutral

>>60061453
>going to concerts
Normie

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These good for the price?

>>60062115
Don't buy those headphones. They have a major design flaw. You can read about it on head-fi. Can't be arsed to explain it.

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Should I pull the trigger on these? I need a pair of wireless headphones and I dont want to break my bank on a pair just yet.

I really dont wanna spend more than 250 CAD

>>60062246
it's ugly but why not

>>60061634
no bass, shitty headband, nope

>>60060574
>what happens
You clip the signal digitally. It will not hit that 0 dB(full scale) mark unless you have increased gain digitally. You can do that by equalizing and not taking into account the total gain added by the filters or, for example, increasing volume in some media player than allows you to go for over "100%" setting such as VLC or mpv. And even after doing this the content you listen needs to be loudly mastered enough for the audio to exceed 0dBfs.

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Why the fuck are there so many studio headphones, that are supposed to be fucking neutral that are V-Shaped and what not? If i want studio headphones, i want the most neutral sound i can get, i shouldn't have to go through this shit process of finding out which of these headphones advertised as studio headphones are actually worth using in studio. Fuck

>>60058695
I'd suggest not using EQ until at least a couple of month in.

Give the stock FR a chance. It's good.

>>60058866
Sennheiser HD380 Pro

>>60062726
Because nobody uses headphones in a professional environment.
If you really want to "produce" get a properly setup studio with good monitors.
If you want to do bedroom DJ shit the FR of the headphones literally doesn't matter at all

>>60062752
I have monitors, i just can't blast loud music at night

>>60059490
>grown 30+ year old man listening to idol trash
Don't remind me I'm old each time now -_-

Have some torikago scripture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL8ytOg0BW4

>>60060193
>>60060164
Flat is justice.

HD600 \o/

>>60062793
dt 1990, hd600 is a 20 year old meme.

>>60062726
Because studio has become another meme used to sell shit.

>Budget
€100 max
>Location
Netherlands
>Source
Smartphone
>Type of headphone
In-ears but not the type with rubber ends that actually go in the ear channels
>Comfort level
It shouldn't hurt
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
Urbanears Medis. Even if the sound wasn't perfect, those were nice because they were outside the ear channel and still comfortable and didn't fall out. I can't find those any more, even their website only has them in super flashy colours which I don't like. For clarification, I cycle a lot, so I need something where I can still hear some of the outside sounds. Pretty much all in-ears I see these days are with the rubber ends. If there's something with better sound than the Medis, that'd be welcome too.

>>60063002
>In-ears but not the type with rubber ends that actually go in the ear channels
> I want in-ear monitors that don't go in the ear
You have literally no choices with this retarded shit
Get the VE Monks. Your only choice for earbuds.

>>60063055
Sorry I didn't know the name for this type, thought it was also called in-ears. Thanks for the suggestion!

>>60062799
>suggests some beyers over HD600

I currently own a House Of Marley Liberate XLBT and I am looking into buying a new pair. This one is falling apart.

I'd like to keep my budget below 160-170 euros (Netherlands). I travel a lot and the heavy weight of the Liberate XLBT has always bothered me so I was looking into some light weight Bluetooth headphones and I came across the Sony mdr-zx770bn. I think it looks pretty cool and it's lightweight. I heard the ANC isn't much to write home about, but I don't really care about it. Id like a comfy pair of headphones that offer decent sound over Bluetooth, but I would also take wired headphones. I don't have any preferred sound profile, although I do like some bass in my music. The only real must have for me is loudness. I need them to get loud! A lot of people I asked have pointed me towards the Sony mdr-1a, which is supposed to have superior audio quality and comfort at the cost of not being wireless and not having ANC. They both cost 129 euros over here.
Can anyone tell me whether either of these are worth getting, and whether you'd advice the mdr-zx770bn or the mdr-1a?

>>60060456
thankfully they're online and I can attend them from home
>>60060396
>>60062749
cheers lads

Why the fuck is the bass so atrocious on the HD600? Is there another headphone that's like the HD600 but with non-shit bass?

Some redditor with HD6xx reviews Schiit Fulla 2.

https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/67f1gp/fulla_2_a_review_and_some_musings/

>>60063605
>HD600's bass
>atrocious
Explain in more detail what you find bad about it. Is it just strength? Is it to do with high bass being stronger than low bass? Does it sound bloated/nondetailed to you (hint: it shouldn't on HD600)?

>germany
>200€
>closed
>full size
>bike, gym, office
>v-shape or neutral-ish, no nigger bass
>past: DT990, some Logishits, some /csg/ trash
>no chinkshit, removeable cable mandatory
I'm seriously done with chinkshit, fuck /csg/.

>>60063645
Not looking to get into an argument with a zealot. I want linear/neutral bass.

Got some HAD 205 II. Not be most loved headphones. Bit I like then. It has nice responses for most of frequencies, except for really, really high ones, those are a bit though to get

I'm curious about what consumer-level amplifiers do in practice to the sound. Is there someone here with an amplifier and an audio card that can do the following?

>record a couple of sine waves, a step function and an unit impulse from the out of your audio card directly into your in of your audio card
>record the same signals but passed through the amplifier first

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>>60058819
Please respond

>>60064106
Unless the amp is pure garbage, it shouldn't do a thing.

http://reference-audio-analyzer.pro/en/report/amp.php

>>60064429
huh. I was under the impression that the purpose of these things was to color the sound in an enjoyable way. No idea where that idea came from.

urm if i got 5 out of 6 right on the npr quality test does that mean i'm a delusional bitch or should i start converting to flac?? or is ogg better than mp3 and basically flac? thnx

>>60063637
>schiit sends DOA garbage multiple times and asks for $40 return shipping each time

>>60064466
DAC/AMP combos do pretty much this:
- (DAC) Sidestep possible bad implementation of sound output on source (eg: colored, high noise thresshold).
- Provide gain to allow for higher volume.
- Provide power (current) into headphones as they need it (some sources have issues; Bad output impedance is a common one, being unable to provide enough current when load impedance is high is also common one)

tl;dr: Get a cheap dac+amp combo (like the fulla2) if you want higher volume, if you have actual issues like hearable noise floor, if don't trust your source, if different sources sound different to you at a matched volume (chances are one or more of these sources have issues), or if you have spent several hundreds on headphones already (at that point, you want *one* fucking source you can trust/use as reference point).

But do not be one of these morons who do spend more on these things than on your actual headphones (!).

>>60064482
>converting to flac
You just *don't* "convert" to flac. You either rip CDs to flac, or buy/obtain lossless somewhere.

Lossless to Lossless -> Typically done with FLAC target, with a source that's some other lossless codec, such as uncompressed or ALAC.

Lossless to lossy -> degrades sound in exchange for lower bitrate. OPUS is the best lossy codec. Do yourself a favor and keep the original lossless files somewhere.

lossy to lossy -> at the same target bitrate, a lossy made from a lossless source would sound much better. Don't do this.

Lossy to lossless -> Utterly moronic.

>>60065086
>schiit sends DOA garbage multiple times and asks for $40 return shipping each time
Doubt it. Unless the customer is a PEBKAC.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/701900/schiit-happened-the-story-of-the-worlds-most-improbable-start-up/10155#post_12369403

The most important part of a audio system is the audio files.
Garbage in, garbage out

>>60065387
Does an USB audio interface like a fast track pro already include an amplifier (it obviously includes a decent DAC)? My knowledge of hardware goes as far as knowing that I have several knobs to control my levels.

>>60063605
You mean like HE-6 or HE560?
Not sure if you will like the rest of the seginature, butt he bass is linear as fuck.

>>60065732
All headphone outputs, even line out outputs, have an amplifier behind them somewhere.

Sometimes it's built into the DAC chip itself. Sometimes it's even dedicated circuitry.

But how much power can be drawn by a load of a given impedance is, if the manufacturer didn't provide specs, unknown. You might get lucky. Or not.

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>Budget
$200 or less
>Location
US
>Source
Plug and play with my computer, primarily for gaming/music
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Maximum comfy, I wear my current set for 8+ hours a day
>Past headphones
The only pair I've ever used are a decade old pair of Astro A40s, so I have nothing to really compare them to. I'd like to find something in my budget that will last me another decade while being comfortable the entire time. If they're good for picking up positional audio cues in games, even better, but it's not mandatory.

>>60066155
>$200
>open
>comfy for 8h+
>general use alongside computer
Your budget covers a pretty sweet spot.
I suggest Sennheiser HD599 > HD598se.

>completely ignorant of audio
>know products labeled as gaming are marked up
>decide to come here to see if theres an audio solution thats good for all around use
>thread consist mostly of people creaming their pants over flat ipod headsets that require amps and other bullshit
>only $1500 :^)

fuck it im getting the Game Ones when they're back in stock.

>>60066250
Enjoy your Game Ones.

>>60066259
at least they have base and emulated surround so fuck you resentful shit

Looks like they are taking feedback, new connectors are much better than the old shit they had before
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jls-fYPyWX8

>>60066288
Hope you enjoy your base and emulated surround on your Game Ones, anon.

>>60066295
It was fun watching him unironiclly shill $100+ cables then immediately back track on it.

Is the FiiO K1 any good for the 250 ohm DT880s?

>>60066155
K7xx

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>>60062799
>dt 1990
garbage

>>60064482
>urm if i got 5 out of 6 right on the npr quality test does that mean i'm a delusional bitch
It tells nothing. It's not that hard to do a proper test if you are interested in knowing what is audible to you and what is not. I wrote something a thread or two back about it >>60037693

>should i start converting to flac??
From lossy? No, never do that.
>or is ogg better than mp3
Depends on the encoder you use, data rate, audio sample being encoded and in the case the compression is audible, your preferences on the artifacts they create. And to clarify, ogg is a container, vorbis is the audio stream it generally stores.
>and basically flac? thnx
No. Vorbis is lossy just like MP3 is. They are different encoders and their performance differs. FLAC is a lossless audio codec. It loses no data and takes much more space due to it.

Lossy encoding removes information which you can't get back by converting it back to a lossless file. This is like downloading a poor quality jpg file, converting it to bitmap and expecting something to change quality wise. You'll just end up with the same information stored less efficiently, meaning it will take a lot more space to store(=increased file size). If you continue to convert this bitmap back to jpg, you lose even more information because the encoder is lossy. Every time you use a lossy encoder, it gradually loses more and more information. Keep lossy transcoding at minimum, preferably don't do it at all.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_loss

So if you have a lossy file: keep it as it is. If you have a lossless file: you can convert it to lossy once or into other lossless files as many times as you like. But for other than compatibility reasons there's generally little reason to do any conversions to the lossless files.

>>60063662
m40x

>>60066155
DT880 Premium.

>>60063605
Planars.

>>60052304
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNkQMtZAMAw

Which headphones are best to listen to this song? Also, would the Sennhesier HD650 be better for this song than HD600?

>M40x are 90 euros here
>Want to spend between 50-150 eurobucks

>Used mostly at home
>But sometimes outside
>Sourced from iPhone
>Want detail, warm, immersive sound
>Jazz, 60s/70s era rock and pop

Can I do better?

>>60066426
Ayylmao.

The FR looks so beyer it's almost comical. They absolutely can't do it right, can they?

>>60063605
>Why the fuck is the bass so atrocious on the HD600?
What is atrocious exactly? EQ it flat?

>>60066784
>Also, would the Sennhesier HD650 be better for this song than HD600?
Oh, the Better for this song™. We don't do that. Christ.

Ultimately, unless the headphones have a glaring flaw and the song does expose it, it'll be up to individual taste.

>>60066784
Depends what you want out of the song. If you want massive bass slam and presence with detail out the ass, 770's would be good. If you want insane upper mid/trebble aggression some grados or AT-ADx series headphones would do well. Really not a very good question desu.

I'm bout to pull the trigger on some M1060's. Should I do it?

>>60067114
If youre prepared to mod, sure. Or at least change pads.

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>>60059667
absolutely revolting

>Budget
~20E
>Location
Greece
>Source
Phone
>Type of headphone
In ears
>Open or closed
Don't care
>Comfort level
Don't care
>Sound signature
can play a wide range of music

>>60067234
I'll bust out the wire combs for you next time, lol.

Someone recommend me a good and affordable usb DAC

>>60067183
The new batch is out with revisions to improve upon the launch ones.
>>60067114

>>60061328
Okay can anyone help me out on this please. Or should I just make a thread for this?
>>60061364
Tbf most of these features are met by multiple headphones that I have been able to find. For around 80 or less. So I was hoping an all in one package can be attained for around 100. I mean the T3+ by bluedio is less than 50 and it has most of the features I listed.

I'll try to be short about this. I had a pair of Roccat Kave (general use, voip, games, etc) that, despite the good performance, they broke pretty fast (wire got busted, soldered them once, broke again few weeks later again, gave up).
My friends recommend to go for either hyperx or razer kraken (models they use, my budget is flexible), what do you suggest? Thanks in advance!

>>60067819
>>Budget
>~20E
>>Location
>Greece
fucking lol

>>60068189
yes, lol, haha, laugh at the poorfag, now help him out faggot

Just got a pair of used HD650s.

Any particular tests I should do before the return period expires?

Who here listen to true metal?
Listening with my DT880 Premium because it has more metal in the general built.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe3VYipqkHg

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Hi /hpg/,

So, my phone's headphone jack broke, and I'm wondering if I should pay for the fix. What are my options to get around a broken jack?

I've seen a few USB DACs, but those are really expensive here (like, ~$100 for a Fiio K1 after taxes on Amazon, buying here is around the same price) or they won't arrive anytime soon (60 days for shipping ;-;). I'm from Brazil btw.

Any recommendations for some decent Bluetooth headphones? I'm pretty new to this, but as I said, most things cost 2-3x of the US price, so I'd like if the suggestions were a bit cheaper.

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>>60066226
Are the 599s significantly better? They're slightly out of my price range at $250, whereas the 598se I can pick up for $155 or so. Is that worth the price jump?
>>60066396
I see these on Massdrop frequently and really liked the aesthetic. Is there any benefit to these over Senheiser's offerings?
>>60066563
I'd read about these requiring a DAC, should I be concerned if I don't plan to buy one?

Thanks for all the help anons, I appreciate it.

>>60068500
Probably not worth a +66%.

They come close to HD600 in FR, but reviewers say it's not a radical improvement on HD598 and, if prices are like that, you might as well stretch all the way to get the HD600 or stay HD598se.

>>60068500
Oh, cute kirigiri btw.

>>60068500
No DAC required, most modern mother boards deal with the conversion well enough, maybe and AMP and only if you have the higher impedace ones, if you decide for the DT880 just go for the 250 ohms version or lower.

>>60068500
>k7xx / I see these on Massdrop frequently and really liked the aesthetic. Is there any benefit to these over Senheiser's offerings?
They're very competitive against HD5xx. They don't hold a candle to HD600/650.
>DT880 / I'd read about these requiring a DAC, should I be concerned if I don't plan to buy one?
You probably mean amp or amp+dac combo and no, chances are you don't need one. See: >>60065387

Also, I'd suggest looking elsewhere than beyers because they're simply bad value for the money against the alternatives. Embedded cable, abysmal FR (massive peak in the treble, every last one of them beyers) and not as comfortable as the AKG or Sennheiser.

>>60068500
The k7xx will compare favorably to the hd598 and still trades blows with the hd600. Good value for the price.

>>60068697
>The k7xx will compare favorably to the hd598
Perhaps, but they also cost more.
>and still trades blows with the hd600.
They wish.
>I prefer k702 over HD600
Said no one _ever_.

>>60067819
hje120
>>60068697
but the hd598 is more neutral than the k7xx, doesn't that make it better?

>>60068138
HyperX CloudX or Cloud because we know how it sounds like and we know it is good value for what it gives compared to competition. Kraken is unknown and personally I hated the ergonomics and build on that thing.

>>60067819
Better order something from China. The infograph at >>>/g/csg might help.

>>60066796
By now I think they know exactly what they are doing and repeat what works for them. Besides this is a higher end product. Almost anything sells there and it doesn't have to be the sound. Certainly not the plots.

so, IS there a difference between the MDR-V6 and the MDR7506 ?

>>60069020
They're the same headphone

>>60069020
>>60069087
*They're the same headphone WITH A FEW DIFFERENT MATERIALS

>>60068869
>I prefer k702 over HD600
>Said no one _ever_.
That's debatable, there were lots of arguments about it back in the Big Three times.

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>>60068942
I'd prefer the k7xx fr over the 598s. Hard to mash 2 pics together on the phone, we'll see how this turns out

>>60068869
Can't speak from experience in regards to the 600, but I do prefer the sound of my k7xx over my 650.

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>>60068565
>>60068576
>>60068582
>>60068642
>>60068697
Thanks for all the advice anons, you're the best.

>>60069160
>but I do prefer the sound of my k7xx over my 650.
I probably would too, from the FR. Closer to neutral, not dark like HD650.

But HD600? Ha.

>>60066385
Bump

>>60068869
>Said no one _ever_.
Well, no. Said someone who likes headphones with wide soundstage and doesn't mind overblown highs.
I prefer neutral non-tiring headphones such as hd600 myself but I can see why some people would prefer k702.
For instance k702 would do better in gayming.

>Ordered my self the HD598se
>Has to come from America to the UK
>I Parcel delivering
>Never heard of them
>Package handed over to them
>Tracker doesn't update very often
>Days pass without parcel moving at all
>Updates
>It moved to a different city in the USA

I'm hoping to fuck the tracker is just shit and it's moving way more than it looks.

I want to try the STAX meme. Any good idea where to buy this in Australia?

>>60069881
What's the company?

>>60054838
Not the same guy but that's good to know, was wanting a comparison to the 598

Are we allowed to talk about desktop speakers here? I don't see a form to fill out but I'm looking for something around $100 USD, am I going to expect quality above generic $25 ones or am I going to have to spend a lot more?

>>60070827
I parcel. Seem to be part of UPS.

>>60070867
Only thing that comes up on google is how shit the are lol.

>>60070836
You can ask about speakers, but there's not a lot of response usually. Too many NEETs afraid of their parents hearing their weeb music.

Where are you from? Standard US suggestions are Micca PB42X or Micca MB42X + SMSL SA-60 for around $120, or JBL LSR305 for $220 if you wait for a sale.

>>60069881
It'll be fine mate, I imported a calculator from US Amazon a few weeks ago and it arrived here quicker than I thought it would

>>60068134
>Tbf most of these features are met by multiple headphones that I have been able to find. For around 80 or less. So I was hoping an all in one package can be attained for around 100. I mean the T3+ by bluedio is less than 50 and it has most of the features I listed.

Doesn't mean it won't likely sound like garbage.

>>60071078
US, Texas

Reason I'm asking is that I'm building a desktop soon and I forget that these things actually need external speakers nowadays, and since I'm slowly turning into an audiophile I might as well go all out, probably will be getting a soundcard, too

>>60070836
>Not the same guy but that's good to know, was wanting a comparison to the 598
Great. And yeah, 598->600 is what I did. Now the HD598 sound like shit to me, and I used to like them...
>Are we allowed to talk about desktop speakers here? I don't see a form to fill out but I'm looking for something around $100 USD, am I going to expect quality above generic $25 ones or am I going to have to spend a lot more?
Powered monitors is the way to go. JBL LSR305 are the standard recommendation. Sure, it costs a little more but you'll probably not need to buy speakers ever again.

>>60071203
>soundcard
Just get a external DAC instead and then have it connected to your stereo amp of choice

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are balanced cables/amps a meme? asking for a friend

>>60071507
For all intensive purposes it's a meme unless your running 50ft cables all over you're house

>>60071203
>will be getting a soundcard, too
I'd skip the soundcard and go for a DAC. Get a pre-amp too so you can volume control the LSR305s.

Some options that'd work for you:

Fulla 2 - DAC, pre-amp, amp
Fulla 2 or Modi 2 - DAC / Magni 2 U - pre-amp, amp
JDS Labs O2+ODAC or Element - DAC, pre-amp, amp
NFB-11 - DAC, pre-amp, amp

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>>60071553
>For all intensive purposes

>>60071756
Is the Modi 2 Multibit a meme?

Kill yourselves retards

>>60071790
Yeah l, your right, my bad. Just to play doubles advocate though mistakes like that are a diamond dozen in this doggy dog world.

>>60071811
They're right that it's a different and "better" way but there's basically no real audible difference a human can tell

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DT880 or HD 650?

Yes, they have fairly different sound signatures, but both have good technicalities and frequency response, both are lightweight and pretty darn comfortable, and both need EQ and/or a colored signal chain to make the most of.

>>60071814
is it a meme??

>>60072004
>EQ
The cheapest option.

>>60072022
Yes, reality is the biggest meme there is

>>60072040
is a audio a meme!

Has anyone modded the Fulla 2 for functionality? I want to leave my headphones plugged in but use the pre-amp outs by adding a switch.

The only mods I could find were people swapping components.

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>Cats chewed through my ~$15 2.5mm to 3.5mm cable that came with my headphones
>Have to settle for a $1.96 cable and 2.5mm adapter from RadioShack
>There's a very audible sound difference and even fucking noise

At least these headphones are bluetooth, it'd probably be cheaper to just buy a fucking bluetooth card for my tower than a new cable

hd600 is a meme,

er4 is the actual neutral choice.

My MDR-V6 crapped out, I though the V6 was a bit too bland at first, liked it better after replacing the pads with velour, seems like it got a bit bassier, I'd like a headphone in the HD-600 pricerange, mostly neutral but with some sass into it. Maybe I should just keep up my pattern of memebuys and get the HD 600?

>>60072004
> technicalities
>colored signal chain

Sounds like a bait post but you got me wondering. What about DT880 with tube amp? Maybe we are looking at them wrong, and with tubes highs unfucks themselves so we have just an emphasised treble for clarity instead of ear rape?

Any reason I shouldnt get the Topping TP30-MARK2 other than the DAC not being as good as Modi/Fulla 2?

>>60072140
HD600 will sound a bit veiled coming from a V6, DT880 or K702 would be more natural upgrades (signature wise), but if you don't mind taking some time to get used to it, HD600 is indeed a pretty good option.

>>60072149
I'm convinced that the HD 800 is responsible for the current prevalence of tube amps. They're clearly excellent headphones in most respects, but by god the treble is fucked. People heard them on a tube amp, thought "holy shit this is so much better", and mistook that for the amp being good rather than it specifically compensating for the flaws in specific headphones.

That and, admittedly, tube amps look pretty.

>>60072113
>$300 earwax collectors
No fucking thanks. Full size headphones only.

>>60072155
They're pretty different. What are you going to use with them?

Topping TP30-MARK2 is a full-fledged amplifier you can hook passive speakers up to, plus headphone amp jack.

Fulla 2 has headphone amp, pre-amp and DAC out, but you couldn't power speakers off it - it needs either active speakers or another amplifier.

>>60072381
HD 650 and DT 880 600 ohm headphones and speakers that already have their own amplifier. Does the Topping not have line out, some sources say it does but its not consistent. If not Ill have to go Fulla 2 or look elsewhere.

Are there any cooling solutions for amps like there are A/V receivers outside of just DIYing a PC fan to a power cord and leaving it on?

>>60072320
I run my HD800S with a solid-state amp and it's more than fine.

People need to stop automatically assume that tube amps are warm.

I got my Grado sr60es

holy fuck they're incredible. I just wish they were a little louder, otherwise they're perfect

>>60072724
Get an external amp.

>>60072748
Yeah I might have to... welcome to the meme world

DT880 Premium 250 Ohm All Black on sale on Newegg for $135 USD + Free Shipping. Grab one while you can.

>>60072716
But they are, have you ever touched one? They can add a nice coloration too, just turn off the light and it will make everything moody and cozy.

>>60072852
I can agree with the coloration part... I used to own a Blue Hawaii SE and anything with female vocals sound out of the world with that amp. It's perhaps not truly neutral but who cares when it sounds that good?

>>60071203
I'd suggest a Fulla 2 as a start. It has a good dac, a decent amp, and If you need even more power, you can chain a magni 2 uber or whatever other amp later on.

Why hasnt Senneheiser been able to seriously advance from a design from 1993, maybe even older?

>>60072925
I was joking, the implication was that it it is warm to touch and gives coloration to the environment, but yeah, i agree with you, both on it sounding being able to sound good despite of neutrality and that solid state does it's job more than fine.

>>60071811
It's a psychological thing.
- It measures good, so difference should be not hearable, and it should be harmless.
- Subjective reviews are very positive, but bias is abundant in audiophile's blood streams.
- It has strong psychological value, as it uses >16bit samples at their original clocks, vs 3-5bit very supersampled approximation regular delta-sigma DAC do. If you see resampling as destructive, multibit has strong appeal.
- it's not extremely expensive. the modi multibit is just +100€ over the uber, for the "meme".

That's pretty much how it is. I went with the uber, but will observe where the multibit thing goes.

>>60071928
Theyre a meme. You pay more for an objectively worse and unreliable method than USB, even Schiit jokingly admits it. Optical is sometimes as good as USB if its implemented right but no ones uses it on PCs so its wrong 99% of the time.

>>60072004
HD600 > HD650 > DT880.

The DT880 is a flawed headphone. It's not even both comparing with these two.

>>60072925
filtered

>>60072949
Marketing is more profitable than R&D in this market.

>>60072975
Well played, sir. ;p

>>60072978
I believe he was talking about the multibit thing, not the uber's spdifs.

I have an uber and I use/love the spdif inputs.
- I use the optical with ps3.
- I use usb for quick attach stuff like laptops and cellphones.
- I use coax spdif from computer's onboard sound spdif output. *might* have lower latency than USB but not confirmed. From a drivers perspective, it just works with onboard so I'm very happy about that.

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>>60060324
I have the original M1, and the mkII's.

They have EXCELLENT build quality, good isolation, and comfortable cushions. I really like their sound - slightly recessed highs, warm mids, deep-reaching sub-bass. The originals have noticeably more bass overall, while the mkII is more neutral. Otherwise, the two versions are mostly the same. If you keep an eye on their prices, you can find them for under $50 sometimes.

>>60073045
What's the bottom left set? Recognize everything else but that one.

Does hpg recommend getting powered or unpowered speakers?

Thinking about picking up a pair of JBL LSR305 or Micca MB42x.

I've got a preamp if I go powered, but it seems like passive speakers give you more options down the lines in terms of adding them into a surround setup or something.

>>60073041
Multi-bit is definitely not a meme but I wouldn't proclaim that it's better either unlike those brain dead morons at SBAF. It's back to personal preferences once again.

>>60073108
Unpowered. Buy second-hand.

>>60073041
Ive always wondered how the PS2 sounds through spdif

>>60073179
That's very appealing.

The PS3 sounds considerably better via spdif, as its own analog output is lowpass'd and overall just terrible.

Tested with a pc soundcard with spdif input, and with modi2uber's input now.

Ar noSurge's music is worth spdif-ing. I'd suspect ar tonelico 1/2 and atelier iris 1/2 to also benefit on ps2.

>>60072925
>I used to own a Blue Hawaii SE
U are not shitting me? This is you know... quite an expensive amp, also what did you do with it?

>>60072975
I have a theory on why people like tube amps. Speakers are closer to the natural listening and music is mastered for them, sound on speakers travels through space and air unavoidably distorting itself, so tube amps add this removed distortion of the spake from headphones.

>>60072949
>>60073030
Bait post considering HD800 being crowned as the best dynamic driver headphone after recently released 5K Utopia plus Orpheus. I wonder what will be Sennheiser's the next, what kind of sound it will take on, continuation of HD800 or a rethinking of HD600 sound, altho it seems that Orpheus is basically HD600 the ultimate edition both with meme soundstage. You can probably blame them on sticking with dynamic drivers but they been doing this shit for ages and I don't recall any big dynamic driver companies switching to planar/electrostatic. It would be interesting to see Sennheiser's planar tho.