/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>>59787679
Where can I get that sticker?

>>59787432
>I must have 2-3 versions of python on one system, it's annoying.
true.
>>59787432
>how different ebuilds can be.
so what?
>>59787432
>you can install packman, apt, rpm on gentoo
i know but databases with installed packages will be different so depedences will messup.

>>59787462
newfags need things work out of tha box.

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>>59787679
wtf did i just read ?
i was looking for some emacs config file and stumbled upon lots of inane comments

also any tips on how to git gud at emacs ?

>>59787805
bump4emacs

>>59787805
http://emacs.sexy/#learn

Can someone compile and upload this small roguelike game called Infra Arcana for Windows?
https://github.com/martin-tornqvist/ia

I once posted in one of these threads asking how to become a hacker (getting memed to oblivion with "hack the simpsons" and so on), but eventually I was given a link, a template of sorts, on how to become a hacker. I seem to have lost the source, so anyone who knows it, would you be so kind as to provide it to me?

>>59787945
thanks mang

>>59788045
https://www.endgame.com/blog/how-get-started-ctf
https://www.reddit.com/r/Cyberpunk/comments/3q1thi/how_do_you_actually_hack_and_what_is_the_reality/cwbqapq/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ReverseEngineering/comments/2am4k5/real_world_exploit_development_tutorials_do_they/

So "The default Porteus bootloader (extlinux) does not support the f2fs filesystem".

I'm a bit of a noob - how can I manually configure/change the bootloader? Or should I just drop the f2fs meme and format something like ext4? (It's on a USB flash drive.)

>>59788137
I'm a nigger - debug.txt says "bootloader: LILO".

I'm installing this from a debian machine that has barely any packages, would installing f2fs-tools or whatever that package is called help?

>>59788045
The one and only resource: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html

>>59788177
It was exactly this, thank you so much anon, I've been stressing about losing it ever since I lost my phone, where it was saved.

So I bought a new motherboard with a ALC1220 audio on board
I know that it isn't supported except in kernel version 4.11 and I have audio output working
but I can't seem to get rid of popping in the input. I've tried different sample rates and qualities
and I know it isn't the microphone because it works fine in Windows.

I am using ALSA only
Any ideas?

good thread

so now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that systemd is aids

>>59788517
not for long

I'm trying to make a liveUSB for Fedora but their media writer utility won't run even when I try to run the .exe with admin privileges.

Did anybody else have this problem with Fedora Media Writer?

>>59788816
This is /g/, what are you trying to bait? Of course we all agree, except the shitposters because of they were to agree they'd pass up a fantastic opportunity to shitpost.

Go bait on reddit or something.

>>59788863
Forgot to mention I'm on winblows if that wasn't already obvious.

Is there a build for linux that's ideal for just having a clean os that's used just for writing and browsing and not being a botnet?

>>59788892
try source mage

Going to install Arch today since a live cd of antergos had better video playback out of the box than my real install of Debian. Any tips the wiki doesn't cover?

>>59788901
>Linux so advanced, it might as well be magic.
Hmm...

Holy fuck lol have any of you actually tried to make a nice looking GUI program in linux?

Fucking shitballs I'd rather make AAA games in JS than do this every day

>>59788917
yes, when you finish partitioning and mount the partitions, run this command

wget http://download.sourcemage.org/image/official/smgl-stable-0.61-basesystem-x86_64.tar.bz2

ditch the arch wiki and follow this guide
https://sourcemage.org/Install/Chroot#6._Extract_from_chroot
from point 6.

>>59788880
i would use rufus instead

>>59788971
I'm actually doing just that now. Still confused why it wouldn't run, nobody else had the same problem.

>>59788935
GUI is for pussies and cucks

>>59788980
Posted this from my lynx browser btw
also I suck cocks

>>59788980
This is why basically all commercially developed code shuns linux like the plague and linux gets half-baked hobby projects only.

>>59788917
When running pacstrap, also pass base-devel group. You'll get AUR support out of box.

Arch is just a stepping stone.

>>59788917
Arch is but a stepping stone.
Don't stay there forever.

systemd is a stepping stone

>>59788980
>>59789010
I seriously just don't understand why we don't have a nice clean, simple, lightweight, cross-platform GUI toolkit

Seriously, how fucking hard could it be? It's just some buttons and shit.

Why the fuck do we put up with bloated crap that is only cross-platform if you bend over backwards like GTK and Qt?
I can only imagine they're going to get more bloated too as we move to Wayland and they retain a lot of X code

>>59789071
To what?
Microsoft/Linux?

Ubuntu/Openbox

Is there a way for me to specify a custom size and location for a window without having to use rc.xml and keyboard shortcuts?

>>59789090
Because it would require people who are good enough to get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to waste their free time appeasing a bunch of ingrate neckbeards for that to happen. Instead we get poorly maintained bloated clusterfucks.

How do you guys configure your firewall?

>>59789114
>is there a way to configure openbox without actually having to configure openbox?

>>59789124
Yeah that sounds good. Let's get Canonical to put some of that money to good use that they earned selling user data to amazon

>>59789136
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Uncomplicated_Firewall

>>59789124
>>59789143
Oh shit, this just made me think

Why aren't any GNU/Linux developers using kickstarter to fund projects?
Hell, I'd shill out a nice sum for a promising alternative to systemd. I'd also probably help pay for a better GUI toolkit too

>>59789137
Putting words in my mouth isn't very friendly. I don't know if there are ways to reposition/resize windows outside of editing the Openbox config files.

>>59789183
Probably because you can't just make this shit and be done with it, you need to constantly put work into maintaining it. Having a fucking dead project last updated in 2009 that's incompatible with any non-ancient versions of anything really doesn't help anyone.

>>59789191
>Putting words in my mouth
it's equivalent to what you said because telling windows how to behave in openbox is done by configuring openbox in such a way that the windows behave the way you want
>I don't know if there are ways to reposition/resize windows outside of editing the Openbox config files.
there aren't any

>>59789230
If there's no way to pass the MoveResizeTo action to Openbox outside of the config XMLs, you could have skipped to that answer without the greentext.

>>59787679
Can someone please help me, how do i install
https://github.com/moonlight-stream/moonlight-pc/releases
on my laptop

>>59789342
i;'m running Linux fedora x64 and i have installed Java

>>59789350
GNU/Linux*

>>59789342
>installing
>java file
>on linux
You don't. Put it somewhere on desktop and run with java -jar command.

>>59789471
GNU/Linux*

does the 2017 dell xps 15 work well on gnu/linux? I'm tempted to get it over the 13 because I want a quad core. Is the battery life with the nvidia card disabled the same as the xps 13? Ideallly I'd just like to power down/disable the 1050 when on battery, and then reboot and enable it when plugged in so I don't have to fuck with bumblebee.

>>59789487
Systemd/Linux**

>>59789498
fuck off faggot
systemd is the best solution we have right now

>>59789514
Explain how systemd is better than runit.

>>59789529
okay I give up

>>59789606
Good, you can't. Runit is much simpler and smaller than systemd, it boots faster, and creating a service for it is as easy as writing a unit file, if not easier.

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>>59789471
?
Did i do it wrong?

>>59789675
You forgot closing quote.

>>59789183
>GUI toolkit
Write it on Vulkan then.
Or even better, port FLTK to Vulkan+wayland.
It will be best toolkit ever.

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>>59789684
Thanks... but shouldn't the program pop up now?

>>59789707
I'll make the logo

Using a linux host to linux guest, using virtualbox, i cant copy paste in eithe direction despite enabiling bidirectional support in the settings.Is there a specific keybind to trigger this?

>>59789843
Are guest extensions installed?

>>59789771
It popups for me. What is your version of jre(7 or 8)?

>>59789847
Yes

>>59789843
GNU/Linux*

>>59789800
I'll be the ideas guy
Now we just need someone to do the coding

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>>59789855
Linux*

>>59789849
8

>>59789865
read the title of the thread you homo

>>59789771
I don't know but it seems to complain about you having headless installation of java and not full. Are you sure you have full java installed?

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>>59787679
Who knows any GLUT/OpenGL software?

>>59789878
You're letting Stallman get into your head.

>>59789885
i just did rm /libnpjp2 to uninstall it... but it didnt exit. So i installed Java 8 again through RPM but it still isnt working

>>59789892
and you're in the wrong thread
>>>/r/linux is the place for open sores nu-male cucks

>>59789938
Not all of Linux is GNU, dumbass. Ever heard of Embedded Linux? Doesn't run GNU shit, but still runs Linux. Do you even know that GNU wasn't meant to run on Linux? I don't think the Linux developers who originally ported the GNU tools would be happy for you giving Stallman credit for something HE DIDN'T EVEN DO.

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>>59789958
y so mad tho senpai. Linux will always be Linux. GNU will always be GNU. GNU/Linux is the combination of both.

>>59789958
>Not all of Linux is GNU
>not all software distributions containing the kernel Linux contain the GNU userland*
>Do you even know that GNU wasn't meant to run on Linux?
>linux wasn't meant to be a part of the GNU operating system*
>Linux developers who originally ported the GNU tools
heh
>giving Stallman credit for something HE DIDN'T EVEN DO
what didn't he do? start the GNU project?

>>59789958
Agreed, all of Linux, the kernel, is Linux.

>>59790029
Linux is more than a kernel. Stop falling for Stallman's ego-filled bullshit.

why makes zsh better than bash?

>>59790049
>why makes zsh better than bash?
Not GNU

>>59790049
fuzzy complete ootb without jumping through 50 hoops in bash

>>59790060
What is fuzzy complete? webm pls

>>59790049
zsh is by macfags for macfags

>>59790048
>Linux is more than a kernel.
Pls post a git link to a project called Linux which is more than a kernel.

>>59790099
i can run linux without gnu, for example android has no gnu

>>59790049
nothin'

>>59790049
Its completion is a lot better imo

>>59790110
I can run Firefox on Windows, for example, Windows has no Android.

>>59790110
I can run GNU without Linux, for example Debian GNU/kFreeBSD has no Linux.

Why do you hate Arch? I used it before and like most other distros I had no problem at all at ay point. They're all mostly the same shit

hey /fglt/, I'm looking for a desktop environment thats as minimal as possible, not CPU/RAM usage wise, but looks wise, and a wallpaper to match it, whats your favorite minimalist Linux look? thanks~
(Sorry if my English is bad)

>>59790049
zsh has builtin tetris, bash doesnt
https://github.com/johan/zsh/blob/master/Functions/Misc/tetris

>>59790132
>GNU with FreeBSD
double shit

>>59790144
fluxbox

>>59790151
elaborate

>>59790144
Check out Bunsenlabs. Lightweight Debian setup with openbox and tint2, looks nice IMHO.

>>59790139
childhood is participating in distrowarz
adulthood is realizing we're all in it just the same

>>59789490
bump

>>59790110
I can run GNU without Linux, for example WSL has no Linux.

>>59790132
What's GNU if not a bunch of poorly-coded userspace interfaces for Linux system calls? That's what this fabled "OS" is... A whole bunch of programs. It's shit like "cat" and "ls".

Imagine some crazy person wrote a Linux system call interface for javascript, turning it into a systems programming language. From there they could implement all of the GNU programs as javascript functions.

Are you going to call that shit Javascript/Linux now?

>>59790196
should be called wsg

>>59790205
>poorly-coded
how so?

>>59790205
see >>59790001

>>59790205
>javascript
pls stop now
enough

>>59790196
What's WSL?

GNU has made a huge contribution to most users linux systems. So hs xf86 and Xorg. Red Hat has contrubuted almost as much as GNU. Systemd is such a critical component of many systems now that it's much more important than the coreutils. Should we call it systemd/xorg/red hat/gnu/linux?

>>59790215
Have you read GNU source code?

>>59790220
I'm not mad, I just don't think GNU matters in the grand scheme of things as far as operating system capabilities go. It's just a bunch of programs.

>>59790229
Replace javascript with $YOUR_FAVORITE_LANGUAGE then child. Any language will do. The higher level the better.

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>>59790243
""Windows Subsystem for Linux""

I'd just like to interject for a moment.
What is systemd, how does it affect me and why is it bad?

>>59790255
https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#many
https://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html#others

>>59790256
>Have you read GNU source code
have you?
if so, you could give me an example of a "poorly-coded" piece of code

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>>59790258
>Linux Bash

>>59790283
Literally any coreutils source file? A jumbled mess of conditional compilation and non-standard C code?

Have you no taste?

>>59790258
That's just pervert.

>>59790298
You are aware that the GNU project even released on programming standards? Just stop.

>>59790264
a program that initialises services and core functions for many distros, as well as monitoring those services and restarting them if needed. It has a bunch of other useless bloated features. It isn't that bad. It has too many features and a lot of lines of code (600k at this point) making it very complex, but it's much faster than everything else (except runit). people mostly dislike it because it keeps growing in scope, and absorbing other programs for no reason. It stopped being just an init system a long time ago, so some prefer other simpler solutions. It could have bugs or security flaws due to its unneeded complexity. (the developer himself is also hated by some people for his controversial opinions on linux)

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>>59790298
>conditional compilation
what's wrong with that?
>non-standard C code
what do you mean by that?
>jumbled mess
maybe 4 u
>Have you no taste?
taste as in pic related?

>>59790319
books*

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>>59790330
Could aswell compress it further at this point.

>>59790298
give me something concrete, anon
give me a piece of code that you consider "badly written" and explain to me how you'd do it better
and maybe do us all a favor and contribute your "fix" upstream

can someone please give me a roundup on the systemd discussion? i keep hearing bad things about the nsa and all is systemd really that bad?

>>59790366
>is systemd really that bad?
no. it's worse

What's /fglt/'s option on systemd?

>>59790366
>is systemd really that bad?
Yeah, you should upgrade to kysd

>>59790366
Lots of retarded bullshit being spouted from both sides. You didn't really miss out on anything. The only people that actually know how systemd, or any init system works, are their maintainers, and a few sysadmins.

what even IS systemd?

>>59790407
Systemd is the best lightweight, user friendly distro for daily use.

>>59790407
Systemd is the kernel of the Linux OS.

>>59790407
Systemd is the operating system, previously known as "Linux".

>>59788863
>>59788880
>>59788971
LiLi is the best live USB creator for windows imo.

>>59788892
Manjaro

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what is the best arch installer?

>>59790463
Your hands

>>59790205
>Imagine some crazy person wrote a Linux system call interface for javascript, turning it into a systems programming language. From there they could implement all of the GNU programs as javascript functions.

This is actually pretty interesting. That stuff is hidden by "standard I/O" interfaces that are really just basic functionality. I wonder what programming would be like if the full Linux interfsce was available.

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>mfw this faggot >>59790298 starts shitposting about systemd to divert attention from his bad posts and avoid >>59790330, >>59790354 and >>59790319

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how many people ITT are windows users?

>>59790494
lmao, there are people in this thread running linux on bare metal?

>>59790507
>lmao, there are people in this thread running linux on bare metal?
Why, what's wrong with WSL?

>>59790128
Easily recreated in bash, it's just not default.

>>59790494
this guy probably >>59790298
obvious undercover M$ advertiser

how come you make fun of microsoft when coreutils is literal pajeet tier spaghetti code

linux is insecure as fuck

how is it sane securety when malware can delete all your files but you need root access to use a printer, lmao

>>59790547
GNU/Linux*

>>59790547
what are you saying? linux is sec-
>https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1060828.html
oh

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>inb4 don't run firefox as root
ransomware doesn't need root privileges to encrypt your home directoy where you keep all your fucking stuff anyway

>>59790562
that idiot ran Firefox as root
Not only is there only a tiny amount of malware made for Linux due to its small userbase (and because its userbase is less prone to getting viruses than wintards), but Linux is technically more secure than windows, as well as being open source so anyone can spot bugs

>>59790605
GNU/Linux*

>>59790605
see >>59790593

>>59790605
skype for linux is open source?

>>59790605
>ran ___ as root
not an argument
see >>59790593

Microsoft shills, GNU haters, Systemd spammer, pls go.

>>59790110
>android has no gnu
Fake news. You can't compile the Android kernel without gcc.

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>>59790562
>>59790593

>>59790647
linux can compile itself

good thread

Ever notice that the people who demand it be called GNU/Linux consist of NEETs, losers and the FSF, while organisations that have actually contributed to the kernel and the ecosystem in the last five years, such as Red Hat, freedesktop.org and the kernel maintainers, just call it Linux?

>>59790562
Always browse under VM, problem solved.

>>59790664
bad post

RUDEPOSTERS AND SHITPOSTERS GET OUT NOW, THIS IS A FRIENDLY THREAD

>>59790679
take it from Theo

>>Virtualization seems to have a lot of security benefits.

>You've been smoking something really mind altering, and I think you should share it.
>x86 virtualization is about basically placing another nearly full kernel, full of new bugs, on top of a nasty x86 architecture which barely has correct page protection. Then running your operating system on the other side of this brand new pile of shit.
>You are absolutely deluded, if not stupid, if you think that a worldwide collection of software engineers who can't write operating systems or applications without security holes, can then turn around and suddenly write virtualization layers without security holes.
>You've seen something on the shelf, and it has all sorts of pretty colours, and you've bought it.
>That's all x86 virtualization is.

https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=119318909016582

>>59790473
>bad code
>assumes talking about systemd
exactly, systemd is shit

>>59790689
Please lower your voice, this thread is for inside voices only. Thank you.

>>59787679
delet this

>>59790647
clang

>>59790692
get out

>>59787679
picrelated is dankest meme

>>59790705
>>59790705
Can't do it without using gcc extensions.

>>59790705
linux compiles with gcc and only gcc

>>59790725
>>59790726
clang supports a decent amount of gnu extensions

>>59790731
LINUX DOES **NOT** COMPILE WITH CLANG
jeerbus christos

>>59790606
Linux*

>>59790725
>>59790726
>>59790731
Hence not compiling the kernel with clang. It's just not true, compiling the kernel requires many gcc specific behaviors.

>>59790753
>>59790755
llvm.linuxfoundation.org

>>59790690
then why doesn't this retard help secure financial future of his OS by finding and getting paid for vm to host escapes if virtualization is so shit? 100k per guest-to-host for Hyper-V for example - easy money.

>>59790765
that's never been accomplished and the project has been dead for a long time

>>59787679
>using the logo with the carat nose

>>59790690
Well, maybe x86 virtualization is full of shit,
just like most console emulator with shitty accuracy compared to the real machine, but it works and I enjoy the benefit (save scumming, etc)

>>59790128
>>59790516
>>59790775
also
>gnu extensions

What do you guys think the best distro for a mobile desktop OS on a usb drive would be?
Ideally I'd want one that can still easily use the usb drive for storage in other operating systems - I know puppy can do that, but puppy is fucking shit.

>>59790794
Source Mage

>>59790794
You could use basically any distro and make another partition on the flash drive where you can keep all your stuff. Then just mount it whenever you boot into the distro.

>>59790794
lies: >>59790820
>>59790806 - truth

>>59790777
I have unbound setup to tunnel dnscrypt and dnssec.However when i point unbound to the dnscrypt proxy,no net connections can make it out.DId i miss something?

Using this in unbound.conf to point to the dnscryptproxy

forward-zone:
  name: "."
  forward-addr: 127.0.0.1@53

>>59790820
> Then just mount it whenever you boot into the distro.

Oh my god I'm fucking retarded. Duh. Thank you.

>>59790754
GNU/Linux*

>>59787679
I've been using Ubuntu and other Debian based OSes forever
How to I break my habit and get used to something like Arch?
No I will not install gentoo

>>59790875
Install Manjaro

>>59790875
install void instead

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>>59790128
This is just

bind 'set show-all-if-ambiguous on'
bind 'TAB:menu-complete'

in .bashrc

If someone knows how to get it to highlight the current result in the list let me know.

>>59790875
install source mage

>>59790494
Anyone who says systemd is acceptable

>>59788892
Umm... Gentoo

>>59790875
Install Antergos, Manjaro or arch-anywhere and use it for a week

>>59790903
No.
99% of linux users run systemd
OTOH 0% of windows users run systemd

>>59790899
is it possible to cycle backwards?

>>59790910
What's your point? None of those 99% say it's acceptable

>>59790921
So they think it's "unacceptable" but still use it? Sounds to me like most linux users accepted it just fine.
When on the other hand windows has nothing to do with systemd

>>59790888
I know void has some very interesting and unique innovations, but I can't remember what they are now, and I just spent like the last 10 minutes searching and all I can seem to find are "lol it just werks"-tier explanations.

Anyone got a link to some description of the more technical reasons void is interesting?

What is the best looking DM you have? Screenshot your DM please!
I'm still looking for the best theme but none of it were my taste.

>>59790955
>Sounds to me like most linux users accepted it just fine.
lol nope

>>59790921
And my point was that just because init system part of systemd was inspired by mac/windows inits doesn't mean that windows users are now obligated to support systemd
It wasn't windows users that integrated systemd in almost every distro after all (although many in RedHat use and prefer windows, hmm...)

>>59790882
>>59790888
>>59790902
>>59790908
Fuck

>>59790997
install gentoo

>>59790914
menu-complete-backward
(y u no man bash)

>>59790988
macOS*

I want to rid my self of gnu,glibc and systemd.I was looking at moving to gentoo. How do i go about removing these before hand? Do i have to do a full gentoo install and then replace it or is there a way to replace it upon installing?

>>59791047
install hurd

>>59791047
>I want to rid my self of gnu,glibc and systemd
Install Alpine linux.

>>59790914
>>59791034
Example:

"\C-f": menu-complete-backward

in .inputrc will cycle backwards with control + f

>>59791047
delete /bin/
there's all the gnu stuff like bash
you just need /usr/local/bin
and install zsh

>>59790875
install OpenSUSE

>>59791047
here's a quick howto get rif of gnu and systemd

first
sudo rm -rf "$GNU_DIR"/*
and then
sudo apt-get install busybox musl openrc clang
sudo apt-get remove systemd glibc gcc
works on debian based distros
replace the package manager for your distro

>>59791063
thanks

>>59790902
Should I really? I don't know much (anything) about it, but I have thought it looked interesting... :/

>>59791123
why not?
even though it's a source based distro, installing it is as easy as installing arch
try it in a vm

why linux has no games?
does linus hate linux users? wtf

Once NixOS is able to be configured without systemd it will become the meme distro to end all meme distros.

You heard it here first folks, mark my words. It's going to happen.

>>59791143
>Even though it's a source based distro
How is this a bad thing? This seems like one of it's advantages (at least for people looking to improve their 1337 linux skills).

>>59791155
>>>/r/funnyjunk

>>59791158
GNU/Linux*

>>59791158
I'm just saying it's easier to install than gentoo for example

why does linus allow systemd?
does linus hate linux users? wtf

>>59790882
Is it worth it to use OpenRC?

>>59791181
he's a red hat cuck himself (he uses fedora)

>>59791199
He was using openPEPE most recently. Last I knew he was looking for something else though.

>>59791199
Time to join the HURD

>>59791199
Say it ain't so

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>>59791215

>>59791199
he's also a macfag (he uses a macbook and emacs)

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>>59791217

>>59791213
https://www.quora.com/What-Linux-distribution-does-Linus-Torvalds-use-on-his-MacBook-Air

>However, a few days ago on Google+ [5], he heavily ranted about its desktop security being user unfriendly because his daughter had to call him from school for the admin password to print something.

Honestly, he sounds like a retard
Apparently doesn't use openSUSE anymore though

>>59791245
>Linus takes a field trip to /g/

>>59791245
Yeah this is from 2012. Idk why he seems to be so secretive of what he's using.


>Apparently doesn't use openSUSE anymore though
It is the last distro he was verified to be using afaik but yeah he did say he was looking for something else. I think it's hard to find something that works good on a mac and apparently Fedora and SUSE work well.

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Halp

 curl -s "https://m.news.yandex.ru/quotes/6.html?mar=0" > /tmp/ru && cat /tmp/ru | grep -m1 '</td><td class="quote__value"><span class="quote__sgn">' | cut -d \> -f5

http://ix.io/pZA
in reallity the page source is 6 lines (ctrl-U)
how to cut the six characters after the grep string

>>59791231
Quite frankly, I find your attitude to be annoying and downright stupid.

>>59791245
I kind of agree that some of that stuff is an unnecessary annoyance

Like needing root privileges to change the brightness on your monitor, or suspend the machine.
I know there are reasons some might need it that way, but for most users if someone gets ahold of their machine with the intent to cause it harm adjusting the brightness is the least of their worries.

>>59791285
EGGCELLENT blog post bro!!

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>>59790644
There is literally nothing wrong with Microsoft.

> I'm a big believer in "technology over politics". I don't care who it comes from, as long as there are solid reasons for the code, and as long as we don't have to worry about licensing etc issues. I may make jokes about Microsoft at times, but at the same time, I think the Microsoft hatred is a disease. I believe in open development, and that very much involves not just making the source open, but also not shutting other people and companies out. There are 'extremists' in the free software world, but that's one major reason why I don't call what I do 'free software' any more. I don't want to be associated with the people for whom it's about exclusion and hatred.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2009/07/linus-torvalds-microsoft-hatred-is-a-disease/

>>59791297
>blog
blog
bläɡ/
noun
1.
a regularly updated website or web page, typically one run by an individual or small group, that is written in an informal or conversational style.

Nice understanding of the English language. Try understanding the words you use next time.

>>59791351
The contents of your post which i linked,is aken to what would be said on a blog post when someone is being a whiny lil bitch.

This is not your blog, no one gives a fuck how yo u feel

>>59791347
Ethics is not politics.

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>>59791347
>free software is about hate
epic strawman

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>>59791363

>>59791397
>unironically still trump posting
lmao, I thought you guys deleted your memes already in shame

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>>59791363
>This is not your blog, no one gives a fuck how yo u feel
Why should we care how you feel faggot? You posted more than he did about how you feel. You're doing the thing you're bitching about. Fuck off.

>>59791410
>lmao, I thought you guys deleted your memes already in shame
Why? I fully support everything he has done especially the missiles. Are you a fag or something?

>>59791427
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/04/trumps-signature-makes-it-official-isp-privacy-rules-are-dead/

>>59791440
Do you have something to hide?

>>59791347
>I love engineering where the blueprints are censored
wew lad

>>59791440
>>59791452
Fake news. Just like him cutting meals on wheels was just something semi-related and only cut 3% of their budget. They were always able.

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>>59791452

How do i make a .jar executable... so i can just double click it and it will open.

Does someone have the gentoo install infographic that they can post?

>>59791542
uninstall java, it's an oracle botnet

Very real disadvantages of systemd:

1. systemd is tied to a specific kernel and a specific libc and specific device manager and specific journaling daemon, basically, having systemd means you're locked in to a whole lot of other things.
2. systemd is renowned for locking up during startup and boot when you have network filesystems.
3. systemd hardcodes quite a lot of the booting and shutdown process in C which other systems place in easily editable scripts.
4. systemd in practice requires quite a lot of things: ACLs, PAM, dbus, polkit, these are not hard requirements but without this the above advantages are lost so all distributions enable them at compile time.
5. logind starting to do retarded shit like user sessions and having retarded power management, in theory you can disable logind, but no distribution again does this.
6. systemd is very monolithic and comes in one configuration compared to being able to piece your system together yourself.
7. systemd appropriates the cgroup tree and takes control of it and completely messes with any other user of the cgroup tree and really wants them all to go through systemd, systemd was wirtten basically on the assumption that nothing but systemd would be using cgroups and they even tried to lobby to make cgroups a private prioperty of systemd in the kernel but that went no-where.
8. systemd's usage of cgroups for process tracking is a fundamentally broken concept, cgroups were never meant for this and it's a good way to fuck resource usage up.
9. systemd has a hard dependency on glibc for really no good reason.
10. systemd relies on DBus for IPC, as the name 'Desktop bus' implies DBus was never written with this in mind and it shows. DBus was written to facilitate IPC within a single desktop session, not as a transport during early boot. This is why systemd wanted to push kdbus heavily beause kdbus solved some of the problems inherent to DBus being used as IPC during early boot.

>>59791585
11. systemd's security and general code quality practices are less than stellar, a lot of security bugs pop up in systemd due to its insistence of putting quite a bit of code in pid1 and quickly adding new features and quickly changing things.
13. systemd creates dependencies and is a dependency of things for political reasons in order to encourage people to pick these things. This is not conjecture, Lennart has admitted multiple times that he creates dependencies to 'gently push' everyone to the same configuration
14. systemd is monolithic for its own sake. It's basically product tying to encourage people to pick an all-or-none deal to again gently push towards this consistency.
15. Lennart Poettering, the face of systemd and its lead dev is the biggest primadonna FOSS has ever known who continues to shift blame and demand that entire world adapt to his designs.

first time on Linux
Installed Arch with kde Plasma 5 how to disable these huge tooltips? Should i install Gnome instead?

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>>59791559

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>>59791611

>>59791602
install everything
customize everything
learn to terminal
learn to program
and when finished, decide what to use

>>59791559
No need for infographics. It's just one command.
sudo apt-get install gentoo

>>59791645
based apt

         (__) 
         (oo) 
   /------\/ 
  / |    ||   
 *  /\---/\ 
    ~~   ~~   
...."Have you mooed today?"...

>tfw love macbook pro but switched to GNU/Linux after my mbp died
What laptop is most like the maxbook pro, that has good Linux support, a good screen, good specs and good build quality? Honestly considering just buying a used 14 or 15 mbp but broadcom WiFi apparently sucks. Please don't suggest a five year old used thinkpad. I need decent GPU performance.

>>59791666
get a one year old thinkpad

>>59791602
Untick:
System Settings -> Desktop Behavior -> Show Informational Tips

>>59791678
/tpg/ keeps telling me that new thinkpads are shit, and by all accounts they still have low resolution screens with shit colour and viewing angles (I don't feel comfortable replacing it myself, I'd definitely break it). I might get a dell xps, because they're sold with Ubuntu. Do other distros (Debian and arch) work the same?

>>59791581
I know it;s disgusting... but i need it...


>>59791542
bump

>>59791542

chmod +x faggotshit.jar

?

Will it be possible to install some type of Linux on the Samsung Chromebook Pro? Considering buying if possible.

>>59791821
chromeos is a type of linux

>>59791828

A version not limited to the Chrome environment.

Trying to install Debian but when i get to to the network configuration I can pick my wireless interface but it only shows a couple of networks to join, none of which are the correct one. Any ideas on how I can get the right one to appear? Trying to access it via the SSID doesn't work either

>>59791828
no

>>59791868
yes, ChromeOS is loosely based on gentoo

can someone pls explain the 30 different signals that htop can use for killing processes?

>>59791868
sorry bb, but it's true. love it or not, it is what it is.

>>59791914
man signal(7) is your friend.

>>59791894
>loosely based on gentoo
It's not loosely it is gentoo

>>59791894
>>59791935
chomeos is based on google stuff
stop forcing this everything is linux bullcrap

>>59792025
GNU/Linux*

>>59792012
If it is Gentoo, why isn't it called Gentoo?
Checkmate, fucktard.

>>59791828
ChomeOS is a type of Botnet.

>>59792032
It's Gentoo

>>59791914
1) SIGHUP 2) SIGINT 3) SIGQUIT 4) SIGILL 5) SIGTRAP
6) SIGABRT 7) SIGBUS 8) SIGFPE 9) SIGKILL 10) SIGUSR1
11) SIGSEGV 12) SIGUSR2 13) SIGPIPE 14) SIGALRM 15) SIGTERM
16) SIGSTKFLT 17) SIGCHLD 18) SIGCONT 19) SIGSTOP 20) SIGTSTP
21) SIGTTIN 22) SIGTTOU 23) SIGURG 24) SIGXCPU 25) SIGXFSZ
26) SIGVTALRM 27) SIGPROF 28) SIGWINCH 29) SIGIO 30) SIGPWR
31) SIGSYS 34) SIGRTMIN 35) SIGRTMIN+1 36) SIGRTMIN+2 37) SIGRTMIN+3
38) SIGRTMIN+4 39) SIGRTMIN+5 40) SIGRTMIN+6 41) SIGRTMIN+7 42) SIGRTMIN+8
43) SIGRTMIN+9 44) SIGRTMIN+10 45) SIGRTMIN+11 46) SIGRTMIN+12 47) SIGRTMIN+13
48) SIGRTMIN+14 49) SIGRTMIN+15 50) SIGRTMAX-14 51) SIGRTMAX-13 52) SIGRTMAX-12
53) SIGRTMAX-11 54) SIGRTMAX-10 55) SIGRTMAX-9 56) SIGRTMAX-8 57) SIGRTMAX-7
58) SIGRTMAX-6 59) SIGRTMAX-5 60) SIGRTMAX-4 61) SIGRTMAX-3 62) SIGRTMAX-2
63) SIGRTMAX-1 64) SIGRTMAX

>>59792025
it uses the Linux kernel you dumb cunt. Stop spouting bullshit you know nothing about.
https://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/chromiumos-design-docs/chromium-os-kernel
>but that's chromium OS
same kernel faggot

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(ck-list-sessions:4617): GLib-WARNING **: GError set over the top of a previous GError or uninitialized memory.
This indicates a bug in someone's code. You must ensure an error is NULL before it's set.
The overwriting error message was: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 127
Segmentation fault

Anyone know how to fix this? It is preventing me from auto-mounting USBs. I feel stupid.

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>>59792054
The expression “the Linux kernel” can easily be misunderstood as meaning “the kernel of Linux” and implying that Linux must be more than a kernel. You can avoid the possibility of this misunderstanding by saying or writing “the kernel, Linux” or “Linux, the kernel”.

>>59792070
I prefer to call it GNU+Linux, after all, it was compiled with GCC.

>>59792061
Please describe your issue in more detail and an associate will be with you shortly. Thanks for choosing /fglt/!

>>59792061

Well, my terminal's locked up,
and I ain't got any Mail,
And I can't recall the last time
that my program didn't fail.
I've stacks in my structs;
I've got arrays in my queues;
I've got the:
Segmentation violation -- Core dumped...
blues.

Now if you think that it's nice
that you get what you C,
Then go: illogical statement...
with your whole family!
Cause the Supreme Court ain't the only place
with: Bus error... views;
I've got the:
Segmentation violation -- Core dumped...
blues.

Well on a <"sophisticated" computer>
life should be a breeze,
But with <facilities mgr> in the house,
even magnetic tapes would freeze!
Now you might think that unlike <company>
I'd know who I abuse;
But I've got the:
Segmentation violation -- Core dumped...
blues.

>>59792070
>>59792077
It wouldn't even exist without the GNU Project

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>>59790330
Left

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>>59792081
do you even blues
>he came into this thread, nothing to fear nothing to hide
>attrached a rare, smug, pepe ready for a fight
>He asked me: best lightweight distro, and easy to use?
>I told him: source mage, faggot, GNU/Linuuux
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH!

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>>59792108
dat backdoor

>>59787679

Is it worth learning gentoo if I've been using arch for the past year?

>>59792152
both, arch and gentoo, is a waste of time

>>59792156

I know they're both timesinks, but I've enjoyed learning arch. Just asking if gentoo has any benefits.

>>59792152
Learn how to compile from git instead.

>>59792167
Well the benefit of gentoo are the USE flags. So when updating, you don't need to reconfigure your shit before compiling. That's about it.

>>59792108
who is this salami tsunami?

>>59792078
Oops. Sorry about that. In my hasty attempt to find a solution I didn't even describe what problem I truly had.

I am simply using a fresh, full install of Slackware 14.2. I am using Xfce. I, of course, would like USB drives to mount by themselves. I j-j-jam it in and the icon pops up in Thunar, and I click it and it says that I am unauthorized to preform the operation. I got me udevil/devmon from Slackbuilds seeing if that would work. I start devmon in terminal to check what it says, and mainly...

>udisks functions are not authorized through policykit, so devmon cannot automount drives.

It points me to devmon's site, basically telling me to make sure ConsolleKit is running. My .xinitrc is fine, and I check if ConsoleKit is active using ck-list-sessions, and get the error in the original post. Using qdbusviewer it doesn't even seem like org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit exists. I don't know if I fucked something up, because I did have to do something with polkit to get audio working. I think. I don't know, it's 4AM.

daily reminder that KDE Neon is the perfect distro

>>59790330

int function()
{
        if (condition) {
                ...
        }
}

>>59792214
>{
>}
>not ?

>>59792207
KDE Neon is a perfectly nice distro

>>59792226
Huh?

>>59792207
>>59792231
how is it different to kubuntu? Isn't it kubuntu, but you get some kde packages slightly faster? I'd just stick with kubuntu to get better support.

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>>59792259
>better support than straight from the dragon monster's mouth

What happened to intel drivers and opengl 4? it seems like they eventually got support for it in mesa, but a lot of games on steam still say they don't work with intel/mesa because of opengl 4.1. Do they work now?

can someone give me tips on how to make kde look good? I like the look of manjaro and opensuse KDE, but I want to keep using arch. I like the look of gnome with the flat plat gtk theme, and the arc gtk theme as well. I hate the look of qt by default.

>>59792259
kubuntu is outdated

KDE Neon is 16.04 + latest KDE stuff, which is GOAT

>>59791914
hang up on a program
quit a program
make a program ill
turn it into a trap
abort it
summon succubus
kill a program
make a segmentation Vault

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>>59792272
you mean the default breeze theme?

(pic related?)

>>59792261
>>59792231
>>59792207
post your kde screenshots, I'm interested in it

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>>59792315
mostly default here

>>59792312
yeah I think breeze looks like dogshit, is there an alternative like arc or flat-plat?

>>59792335
well, there's arc-kde
https://github.com/PapirusDevelopmentTeam/arc-kde

>>59792149
>>59792196
No idea. Wish I had sauce tho

just installed kde on arch but i have no terminal on the desktop
what do i need to install?

>>59791806
What? All that does is open up the archive manager?

>>59792387
you can use any terminal emulator you want
the KDE one is called "konsole". others include urxvt, gnome-terminal, xfce4-terminal, termite or terminator. for simple use they're all really the same, so you could just stick with konsole unless you want to customise it a lot.

>>59792387
If you want to rice the shit out of it, urxvt. If not just use konsole.

>>59792387
You did get xterm, no? KDE has Konsole, doesn't it?
Get whatever terminal emulator you like with pacman. Search for one you like on the wiki.

kde plasma is the best DE because it has wobbly windows

>>59792421
[spoiler]Don't fucking sass the wobbly windows or I'll wobble your dick m8[/spoiler]

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>>59792421
it also has a SPINNAN CUEB option

>>59792433
nice spoiler tag there friendo

>>59792421
>>59792441
KDE confirmed for ultimate DE, all others need not apply

>>59792387

Check you have set your locale and keyboard layout, causes some terminals not to load if unset.

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>>59792421
The only problem I have with KDE's wibbly wobbly is that the window border seems to kind of deatch from contents by like 1 pixel

>>59792459
this triggers my autism, is there a fix?

>>59792454
i installed konsole now i got it
thanks
>>59792415
>>59792410
>>59792405

I also use kde
I prefer the look of gnome, but KDE connect is god tier and I use it all the time

>>59791542
bumping this help[

What the fuck, why does DNF stand for "Dandified Yum"? Who thought that was a good acronym?

>>59791542
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Binfmt_misc_for_Java

>>59792522
the same people that thought naming a distro "fedora" was a good idea

>>59791542
right click, Properties, Permissions, Is executable (or whatever it is in gtk)

>>59792522
that's what it stands for?

I always thought it was did not finish (which didn't make much sense)

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Heya, windows developer here. Working on VS Studio for 6years and searching for terminal based IDE replacement on Linux with same editing shortcuts - something that would use ctrl, shift, alt and etc. instead vi based key mapping. Do you guys have any suggestions?

>>59791581
You don't need to use oracle's java, retard.

>>59792959
I take it you aren't a Java developer. Trust me, after using openjdk for any length of time you'll want/need to go back to the proprietary jdk, despite oracle's bullshit.

>>59792979
No I wouldn't.

>>59792951
Emacs. If there's something about if you don't like you can use elisp to change it.

>>59792951
CLI shortcuts and GUI shortcuts are two different worlds. Do not try to mix them.

Redpill me on Plan 9.

>>59793012
absolute garbage

>>59793016
What's so bad about Plan 9?

>>59793021
its mascot ripped of Go's.

>>59793009

This.
Just switch fully over to emacs or Vim.

I personally use i3wm and Vim.