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Users of all levels are welcome to ask questions about GNU/Linux and share their experiences.

*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***

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If you would like to try out GNU/Linux you can do one of the following:
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3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux.

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Don't know what to look for?
$ apropos %something%

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>What distro should I choose?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

>What are some cool programs?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page

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http://www.commandlinefu.com/
http://bropages.org/

>Where can I learn the command line?
http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/

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https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html

>How to break out of the botnet?
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux

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http://fglt.nl && https://p.teknik.io/wJ9Zy
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I was somehow out of the last loop and only just heard that Ian murdock killed himself due to something with the police. Why did he do it?
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>>59793953
he was drunk, american police roughed him up, so he committed sudoku because as he said on twitter "he was treated like a nigger he isn't"
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echo -e '\a'
No sound came?
newbie here (learning from the linux command line)
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Since systemd was first proposed it has been frequently discussed in many forums, mailing lists and conferences. In these discussions one can often hear certain myths about systemd, that are repeated over and over again, but certainly don't gain any truth by constant repetition. Let's take the time to debunk a few of them:

Myth: systemd is monolithic.

If you build systemd with all configuration options enabled you will build 69 individual binaries. These binaries all serve different tasks, and are neatly separated. Many of these binaries are separated out so nicely, that they are very useful outside of systemd. A package involving 69 individual binaries can hardly be called monolithic.

Myth: systemd is not UNIX.

There's certainly some truth in that. systemd's sources do not contain a single line of code originating from original UNIX. However it derives inspiration from UNIX. In fact the design of systemd as a suite of integrated tools that each have their individual purposes but when used together are more than just the sum of the parts, that's pretty much at the core of UNIX philosophy.

Myth: systemd is bloated.

Well, bloated certainly has many different definitions. But in most definitions, systemd is probably the opposite of bloat. Since systemd components share a common code base, they tend to share much more code for common code paths. Here's an example: in a traditional Linux setup, sysvinit, start-stop-daemon, inetd, cron, dbus, all implemented its own scheme to execute processes with various configuration options in a certain, hopefully clean environment. On systemd the code paths for all of this, for the configuration parsing, as well as the actual execution is shared. This means less code, less place for mistakes, less memory and cache pressure. systemd is also pretty modular. You can choose at build time which components you need, and which you don't need. People can hence specifically choose the level of "bloat" they want.
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I'm new to Perl and it's regex system, and I want to list the contents of a directory, but omit the contents of '.' and '..' for going backwards in the directory tree, I have this code at the moment, but how do I make it remove '.' and '..' with regex?
 opendir(D, "/directory/") || die ();
while (my $n = readdir(D)) {
print ("$n\n") }
closedir(D);

sorry for looking noobish
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>>59794115
Which term?
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>>59794141
>A package involving 69 individual binaries can hardly be called monolithic.
>X can not be called monolithic
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>>59794146
next unless $n =~ /^(\.|\.\.)$/
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>>59794176
nice thanks anon, but turns out it was next if, rather than untill.
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>>59794141
but can you actually swap any of the 69 binaries? are there any drop-in replacements?

also is there any guarantee that your replacement will keep working in new versions of systemd?
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>>59794141
>in a traditional Linux setup, sysvinit, start-stop-daemon, inetd, cron, dbus, all implemented its own scheme to execute processes with various configuration options in a certain, hopefully clean environment. On systemd the code paths for all of this, for the configuration parsing, as well as the actual execution is shared.
Hey that's pretty good
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>>59793890
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>>59794141
My opinion on those points:
Some of the binaries by themselves are easily as large as the entirety of runit and openrc. Whie using all these binaries isn't necessary, every systemd distro forces you to have them on your hard drive

>systemd is not Unix
who gives a fuck, GNU's not Unix and neither is the kernel.

Systemd is definitely bloated. There is absolutely no way of pretending it isn't. It's larger in size of binaries, and lines of code to other inits. Also, nice comparison to an outdated and technically poor init system like sysv instead of something that's actually good, like runit or openrc. Every distro aside from gentoo enables 100% of systemd's bloat anyway. It has almost 600 thousand lines of code. Yes, it isn't always a fair metric but that's probably hundreds of times more than runit has. Unnecessary complexity for the sake of solving a problem that isn't there. It keeps growing and gaining unnecessary features that can and should be fulfilled by other programs, and not be in PID 1 (DNS, networkd/netctl, udevd, machinectl). Systemd isn't as horribly bloated as many aspects of the ecosystem, but there's no tangible benefit to using it over runit/openrc for most users.
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>>59794238
Your point? Every distro has bug on a bug tracker, if it has one.
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>>59794253
>>systemd is not Unix
>who gives a fuck
What do you mean? It's one of the most said things about it. Lot's of people care evidently.
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>>59794261
Don't pretend like you don't know why Manjaro exists. The whole point is that Manjaro users don't risk having to deal with these bugs.
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>>59794284
>Don't pretend like you don't know why Manjaro exists.
Same reason all stupid things exist, stupid people.
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>>59794294
but if you're smart you'll use the distro that allows new versions of programs to be tested and not just blindly update, causing issues like >>59794238
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>>59794308
Stable versions of programs are tested.
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>>59794323
Arch is at the forefront of having the newest packages compared to 99% of other distributions, taking a small step back is not unreasonable.
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>>59794273
not Unix is for code for lacking modularity, non-standard complex interfaces, ignoring the existing eco system, and non portability.

Why wouldn't you care about that?
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>>59794369
It is, if you don't get security updates.
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>>59794406
what is backported security updates
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what video player is the best?
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>>59794412
The chances are:
>it works
>it works but opens other issues
>it just doesn't work like intended

backporting can be a pretty hard task, never fucking things up seems pretty unlikely.
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>>59794442
mpv
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>>59794412
Which you don't get in Manjaro.
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>>59794406
This is just fake news they push critical security updates no matter what
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ok, i'll drop my semi related question here: i'm looking for a way to give my debian system vocal recognition.
i poked around a bit and i think i'm going CMUsphinx;
question is, has anybody here tried it? is it any good? keep in mind that i want it to simply be able to recognize short and simple commands
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>>59794284

You must be a big retard if you think Manjaro isn't affected by those bugs. Wait, you actually believe that.
Kill yourself so you can spare this thread your idiocy.
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>>59788137
>>59788156
self-bump, pls help

Since my system had no internet connection, I transferred the f2fs-tools and a couple dependencies on another usb stick and installed them using dpkg, only to get the exact same result.
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>>59794616
make the boot partition seperate and format it under a supported filesystem
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what happened to my font on firefox? it used to display numbers properly
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>>59794588
Why not julius instead?
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>>59794652
afaik it doesn't have a model for my language, and i'm not sure i'd be able to build it from scratch, i'm not very good, to be honest
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>>59794671
I'd just use english, since the model for it will most likely be the best quality.
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>>59794627
I'm dumb, that does sound like a good way to do that.

Do I need some free space in my boot partition for the future or can I make it as small as I can? This sounds like an obvious question but my brain isn't being very bright right now
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>>59794635

https://www.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/643j9e/is_there_a_new_number_font_on_youtube/dfz6a7d/?st=j19b4xs8&sh=9bbd8673
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>>59794707
Why not just one partition?
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>>59794688
as i said, english is not my language, so:
1-my pronunciation is kinda bad
2-i'd look like a jerk to anybody around me
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>>59794635
web fonts were a mistake
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>>59794733
cheers anon I thought I messed something up
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>>59794707
i don't quite get what you mean by the question. make it big enough to store the kernels you want to boot and the bootloader, no more than 500MiB.
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>>59794741
You'll look like a jerk when talking to your computer anyway.
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is there any way of telling gnome3 to use the flashback colortheme for the shell?
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>install fedora
>the very first dnf update crashes itself and my other terminal window midway through
so this is what "bleeding edge" means, huh
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>>59794605
>You must be a big retard if you think Manjaro isn't affected by those bugs
Do you even believe your lies? Fucking dumb. Thanks for beta testing.
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>>59794918
>fedora
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>>59794918
No. What did you do to break it?
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>>59794931

>beta testing
Look up what beta versions are before you embarrass yourself further.
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>>59794946
Literally nothing. I've made a fresh install, used firefox to visit a few sites, moved a bunch of documents from an external drive, ssh to access my IRC, didn't install anything yet.

Just did this
>sudo dnf update
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>>59794978
You can subject any product to a beta test. Your reading comprehension leaves something to be disired.
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brb installing GNOME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELelLy1lq-s
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>>59795025

Software that gets included in "bleeding edge" (everyone who used that phrase should kill himself) isn't a beta, it's the latest released upstream releases.
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>>59795121
Which has only been tested by a few devs.
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>>59794946
>>59794991
I'm trying to do the updates again and uh, giving an error but no crashing now

Error: Transaction check error:
file /usr/share/man/man5/sss_rpcidmapd.5.gz from install of sssd-nfs-idmap-1.15.2-1.fc25.x86_64 conflicts with file from package sssd-common-1.14.2-1.fc25.x86_64


Really doesn't feel good to get problems this early trying out a new distro, esp since this is supposed to be a pretty easy one.
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Okay, I got a problem.
In Ubuntu, Alsmamixer cannot save my settings. Every time I boot this fucking OS I have to manually edit alsamixer, because the "headphones" column is always at fucking 0. I tried a lot o shit to make this work, but boooy, doesnt work.

I tried running it as sudo, changing my settings and then typing alsactl store 0 or alsactl store and rebooting but it doesnt motherfucking work.

Oh, and does anybody know where the cfg files from grub are located? So i can change boot time and order.
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>>59795121
>the latest released upstream releases.
*the latest stable releases
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>>59795245
Why not just have a command that sets it how you like run at startup?
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>>59795245
isn't Ubuntu using PulseAudio?
maybe that fucks with your settings
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>>59795267
>>59795245
Are their any pros to running alsa instead of pulseaudio or is it a hipster thing?
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>>59795294
less bugs and less latency problems
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>>59794735
To be fancy. Also I have an f2fs fetish.

>>59794768
That was the answer I was looking for, thanks.
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>>59795255
But how should i do it with alsa?
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>>59795355
For example
amixer set 'Master' 80%
- to set the master volume at 80%

Use
amixer scontrols
to show a list of devices to find out what the headphone jack is called. Replace 'Master' with that.

Take the command that sets it and put it in your session and startup application autostart. Pic related is Xfce but I'm sure your DE has an equivalent.

Or alternatively drop the command in /etc/rc.local which is a startup script for all users anything you drop there will run at startup regardless of DE. There are even other ways to achieve this but I would recommend one of these.
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Stupid question here but what is github?
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>>59795034
Does it have thumbnails in the filepicker?
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So I've just done a fresh install of arch as I upgraded my SSD, just finished the main install and am on the post install stuff now and tweaking my fstab to mount all my other HDD's I use for storage, I've done that and rebooted to confirm all of them mount and then started my file manager and still see pic related.

Normally the drives show up in devices prior to mounting via fstab, but disappear after being hard mounted via fstab which hasn't happened.

Excerpt from my fstab:

# /dev/sda2
/dev/sda2 /mnt/windows/c ntfs-3g defaults 0 0

# /dev/sda3
UUID=e1566c22-0eae-4c09-a95d-8a69940a5b4f / ext4 rw,relatime,data=ordered 0 1

# /dev/sda4
UUID=21d5f93a-fad7-4f2e-927a-3212cdafe5d0 /home ext4 rw,relatime,data=ordered 0 2

# /dev/sdb1
/dev/sdb1 /mnt/windows/file ntfs-3g defaults 0 0

# /dev/sdb2
UUID=dbbfb63b-1ba1-4777-9c0f-f82bf44947ae /mnt/image ext4 defaults 0 2


Any idea how to stop these showing in devices it's a fucking pain.
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>>59795665
git is a source code version control system, which means, it tracks changes you make for convenience. github is one of many web services which work with git to store and share your versions online
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>>59795852
>git is a source code version control system
No.
https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Git-Internals-Plumbing-and-Porcelain
>Git is fundamentally a content-addressable filesystem
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>>59795665
github is a website which provides censorship and user tracking, so not use
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>>59795826
>So I've just done a fresh install of arch
>it's a fucking pain
That's normal.
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>>59793890

Hi guys, which distribution of GNU/Linux is better for gaming? I ussually play Arma 3 and CS:GO.
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>>59795826

Fixed it, was missing gvfs package.
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>>59795922
ubuntu, as it's officially supported by valve & steam, games are better tested on that distro.
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>>59795960
Good, as always, the wiki is your friend
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/File_manager_functionality#Mounting
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>>59795758
It does if you use your file manager instead of a file picker.

Has anyone had any luck recording under wayland? Webm related is my first time doing it and it's pretty fucked up.
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>>59795995

Yeah, I literally just installed pcmanfm, if I had read the wiki page, the first line fucking says install gvfs too.
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I'm new.

If I want to sort some stuff using sort, and only retrieve the first 20 items, how would I do this?

Thanks.
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>>59795826
Add discard as an option for the SSD, will help it last longer.

ie
rw, discard, relatime, data=ordered 0
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>>59796023
sort file | tail -n 20
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>>59796053
shit, forgot about pipes, thanks.
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>>59796053
correction
head -n 20
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>have used Debian for years
>just realised that releases are named after toy story characters
Sid being unstable makes sense I guess
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>>59795476
Okay, thats awesome. I already knew how to set code to run at startup but I had no idea how to do it with alsamixer.

Youre awesome.
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>>59793890
Is it really better than windows 10 enterprise?
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>>59795964
Kys Canonical shill.
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Whats the difference between lspci ans lshw?
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>>59796088
Kys Microsoft shill.
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>installed lubeunto(my butt) on a T60
>maxed out RAM and ordered Intel T7200 CPU
>still can't into bash terminal or even remember how to manually install packages without looking up how
Give me one good reason why I shouldn't jump right into Arch and possibly fuck myself over. I'd install Gentoo unironically but I don't have time to install it.
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>>59795964
this

Ubuntu is best for gaming.
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>>59796155
see >>59796091
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>>59796143
512mb ram is practically suicide on any modern browser. Either upgrade it or use a meme lightweight browser like qute.
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>>59796143
>how to learn the terminal
use the terminal, distro doesn't matter, pleb
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>>59796164
see >>59793890
>*** Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread ***
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>>59796245
/fglt/ is not for adversiting disinformation.
There is no best distro for gaming. Games that run on Ubuntu will also run on any other distro.
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>>59796268
>telling subjective opinion
>advertising

sigh...
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>>59796086
Every program has cli command equivalents to the gui and most of the time you can do much more with cli.
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>>59796088
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installing gentoo is the best adventure game
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>>59795904

Actually it's not been a pain at all. I did a full snapshot of my root and home filesystem this morning, stored it on one of my other disks and have just finished loading the settings and configs back into the software so now my system is pretty much back to how it was before the re-install now.

Linux re-installs are painless when you do them right, windows is much more of a fucking pain in the ass.

Now I have to do all the updates on my windows partition which is going to take fucking hours and the re-installs for software there will be a fucking pain too.
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>>59796296
There are better ways to insult windows useds than being a racist.
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>>59796309
>Now I have to do all the updates on my windows partition which is going to take fucking hours and the re-installs for software there will be a fucking pain too.

Who forces you?
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>>59796309
GNU/Linux*
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>>59796313
>implying jews are race
You mean they are true masterrace, and filthy goyim should give them everything they have?
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>>59796000

You are using a GTK2 program (Thunar), which uses xwayland, of course there will be issues recording.
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>>59796207
>installed Absolute Linux
>Pale Moon would crash upon loading a second tab
Main reason why I upgraded to 3GB of RAM. Qute seems nice but I need muh GUI and plug-ins.

>>59796239
FUCK YOU DAD I WANNA BE A MEME WHEN I GROW UP
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>>59796356

Nanami-chan.
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>>59796410
What's next? Installing Touko-chan?

If you really want to install an OS because of a mascot, at least install pic related
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>>59795964

Its the same an ubuntu based distro and original ubuntu in performance?
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>>59796392
Why would you even use pale moon. Browsers based on firefox suck. Slow, no privacy and horrible design. Just stick to chromium or opera.
>>59796458
Ubuntu has several distros based on it. Lubuntu, kubuntu, etc, but every one of the "ramifications" are special for something. Ubuntu itself is based in Debian. Ubuntu is more of a general use OS. Ubuntu uses Unity and other x-ubuntu distros can use another shell and de. So performance may differ.

Overall, you should stick to ubuntu.
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>>59796484
>implying there's no privacy on Pale Moon
>suggesting Chromium and Opera
Is this the bizarro /g/ thread?
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>>59795964
>games are better tested on that distro
Which doesn't mean shit
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>>59796537
Play tf2 on arch linux, then.
>>59796536
Theyre good enough for what they do, and pale moon isnt what youre looking for when you need maximum privacy. If you need to remain hidden, there is much more to do than switch browsers. Opera and chromium are reliable, fast and lightweight.
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>>59794176
Wouldn't
^\.\.?%

be more efficient?

I never wrote anything in Perl, but it's not the only programming language to use regular expresions.
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Trying to edit ~/.zshrc to bind some keys. It won't fucking work after reopening it and loading with source. What the fuck am I doing wrong before I set this thing on fire
For example
bindsym "^[[1;5D" backward-word
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>>59796641
sorry, I meant to use a "$" character at the end.
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>>59795964
>>59796627
Prove that there are significant performance differences between Ubuntu and any other distro.
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>>59796657
>bindsym
For fucks sake, I meant bindkey
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>>59796627
I've done it before without problems. The biggest problem with steam is that you have to delete it's runtime every time it updates on arch, and you can do this with a simple script. Other than that, things work as well as they will do on Ubuntu.
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>>59796669
ok go use that other distro then
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jesus fucking christ I can't believe what a can of worms I opened by installing Debian

>want to play one single Windows game
>that game only has a 32bit installer
>only wine64 properly works on debian stable
great

multiarch on stable is a crock of shit
apt tells me to get fucked and basically reinstall my entire OS whenever I try to install wine32

just fucking great
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>>59796811
Sure it doesn't work with Wine64?
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>>59796864
tells me about an 'invalid EXE format'
all google solutions tell me to use wine32
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>>59796864
I'm not that anon, but from my experience there is some software that doesn't work on 64 bit wine, such as .net 2.0. I had to switch to multilib on my Arch install to run games that depend on it.
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>>59796880
I thought 64 bit sowftware was compatible with 32 bit ones.
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>>59796880
Dir you create a 32bit wine bottle for it?

And, as >>59796891 said, some things will still need 32bit libraries.
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>>59796937
32bit software isn't compatible with 64bit
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>>59796937
32 on 64, on windows yes, because it uses two sets.
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>>59796365
>You mean they are true masterrace, and filthy goyim should give them everything they have?
Hmmm. Let's read some excerpts from the Talmud and see what it has to say about goyim.
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>>59796939
>wine bottle
what?
do you mean set the wine prefix?

because it won't even let me do that until I install fucking wine32
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>>59797008
Yes, a prefix that was created with WINEARCH=win32
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>>59797031
as I've said, that also just tells me to install wine32, which as you know, apt absolutely refuses to do
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>>59796657
>>59796682
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>>59797051
Have you tried following these instructions?
https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO
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>>59797074
yes
yes I've done virtually everything possible by now

all I've learned is that I'll never roll Debian again
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>>59796657
What does zsh do that bash can't? I never understood what the benefit was. Also bash doesn't have this problem.

>>59796657
>Trying to edit ~/.zshrc to bind some keys
Try putting it in .inputrc big dawg
>>
>>59796627
If I needed maximum privacy, I'd use Tor, not botnet-lite and Firefox's disabled cousin.

>>59796713
Not an argument. You're the one who implied Ubuntu ran games better, so you have to provide sufficient evidence.
>>
I have a question.

I've installed Arch on a usb stick recently, and it hangs every couple of minutes. I've used ext4, and I haven't disabled journaling. What did I do wrong? Has anyone got Arch to work nicely in such a set up?
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>>59797122
>.inputrc
>working with zsh
Since fucking when?

>bash doesn't have this problem
Bash takes a little more to show results. Don't fucking know why.
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>>59796713
>>59797132
>>59796669
>>59795964
>>59796627
Having newer packages for drivers and steam will potentially get you better performance so I would imagine that Arch outperforms Ubuntu here.
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>>59797221
Shit, it worked. It actually was emacs-backward-word and so on.
>wtf I hate vi now
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>>59796976
So it only works with windows?

Say, I have ubuntu 64 installed on my machine, if i install a 32bit package it wont run?
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>>59797215
Does it hang when you do sync? Then it's the synchronisation of data between the stick and memory that's causing the hang.
>>
>>59797221
>>.inputrc
>>working with zsh
>Since fucking when?
Sorry I'm not gay so I didn't know that

>Bash takes a little more to show results
I'm not sure of what you mean here. Do you mean getting tab completion results like zsh? Yeah adding 2 lines to bashrc is a little I suppose.
>>
any thing I should be aware of when installing arch in a triple boot? already have win7 and xubuntu
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>>59797346
32bit binaries most likely will require 32bit libraries, and if those don't exist in your system it won't run
>>
Just bought a new laptop for light usage when on trips, put Debian stable on it. Is it viable to get Steam and GAEMS running on Debian stable, or will I have to go to testing?
>>
>>59797368
It might be the best OS you have.
>>
>>59797399
Is it viable to even touch shit like Steam?

Otherwise, read the thread.
>>
>>59797368
You will quicky uninstall win7 and xubuntu after using arch for a while
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>>59797399
see >>59796811
>>
I have a .odp presentation file. Is there a way to open it without installing bloat?
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>>59797358
Running sync explicitly can make it hang for a couple of minutes, so that's probably it.

I guess that ext4 isn't the best choice for such an application. Which file system would be better for it?
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>>59797555
You could try it with Google Docs. It seems that it supports .odp.
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>>59797601
It's not the file system that's the problem, it's the slow device. Anyway, you could try F2FS.
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>>59797629
>Google
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>>59797669
That's the weird thing. I got much better performance from an old usb 2.0 stick with the gparted distro (based on Debian sid) than I got from my new usb 3.0 stick. I wonder if it takes much effort to set up F2FS. I've tried it before with the quirky flavor of Puppy, and it seems to have some limitations such as not making it possible to resize partitions.
>>
Can someone recommend me a wireless adapter? I would like good range, speed, low ping and for it to especially work with Arch. Not really afraid to fork out for it.
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>>59797462
>>59797533
Sorry, I guess I should clarify, I'll just stick to games with Linux support, no WINE bullshit. I just wasn't sure if stable being so out of date would make it impossible, or if it's the usual should be fine, but you might encounter a situation where the new package you need isn't available yet.
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>>59797699
It doesn't make more effort than installing any other file system. But remember to have separate /boot partition with something like ext2 so that GRUB works with it.
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>>59797703
Steam support is based on Ubuntu LTS, so Debian stable might be new enough for it.
>>
>>59797702
Intel or Atheros adapters are good. I have Intel Centrino Advanced N 6300 and I'm using Arch with it. It supposedly supports 450Mbit/s with three antennas.
>>
Ubuntu shills pls go.
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>>59797749
Cheers, I'll give it a go then. First time using Linux desktop in 9 years, didn't want to make things more difficult for myself by starting with the wrong version only to switch later.
>>
>>59797793
GNU/Linux*
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>>59797754
Preferably USB but thanks.
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how do I display album art with mpd+ncmpcpp
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>>59797954
script it
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>>59798019
how?
>>
>>59797929
I've tested with TL-WN722N
It has good range, but it's only 150Mbit/s. You might want another one from tplink with higher speed. They should all work well with linux, as they're supported by the ath9k_htc module.
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>>59798029
Write a daemon or loop, that checks for the currently played file, looks in the directory for a cover.jpg or something and display it with a broderless imageviewer, feh, mpv, imagemagicks display, conky, whatever.
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>>59798063
That's not inside the terminal though
>>
>>59798119
well then use img2text or something
>>
has anyone tried gnome-devel from this source https://softwareperonista.com.ar/repo/archlinux/gnome-devel/x86_64/?
>>
>>59797731
I'll give it a go when I'll have time to do it.
>>
How do I solve screen tearing in KDE on Intel HD 530? I've tried both the xf86 drivers with Option "TearFree" "true", the default modesetting driver, set full screen repaints in the compositor, wrote the kwin.sh script that every forum recommends to force vsync, and I still can't fix screen tearing. Is KDE just unusable on Intel? I have an Nvidia card on another computer that works fine just by forcing triple buffering.
>>
Arch
Manjaro

What are some other pacman-based distros other than these two?

I want to get as far from apt/aptitude as possible
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Find a flaw.
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>>59798610
Install Gentoo
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>>59798610
What's the problem with apt?
>>
>>59798648
2017
no command to see the list of packages I installed
>>
>>59798656
dpkg -l
>>
>>59798670
No. It will list installed dependencies too.
>>
>>59798472
try gnome and see if tearing is still there
>>
>>59798692
dependencies are packages
>>
>>59798472
Install compton. compton solves all problems.
>>
>>59798692
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/3595/list-explicitly-installed-packages
did you try using a search engine anon? you wont get far on arch if you cant look shit up, faggot
>>
>>59798702
Yes but I didn't install them, the package managers install them. I didn't ask for them.
>>
>>59798610
every fork of arch, in practice
void's xbps is quite similiar to pacman, also
>>
>>59798723
Does not work. If I installed a non leaf package I want to see it. Not just the leaf packets.

With Arch it's "pacman -Qe" that's fucking simple. With dpkg that information disappear.
>>
>>59798730
what a retard
>>
>>59798730
apt-mark showmanual
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>>59798648
it's awful

manually installed packages, cross-release packages will make it shit itself in unbelievable ways
add multiarch to the mixture and you have yourself an absolute catastrophe
>>
>>59798778
Years I'm asking for that. Years people reply stupid things. That's the first time someone provide me the answer. I'm impressed.
>>
>>59798840
>i want to go as far away from apt as possible
>oh wait no apt actually has the feature i want i just didnt look properly
why expect more from an arch user
>>
>>59798778
apt-mark is pretty underused; it solves the problem many people complain about like
>try to remove program xy
>apt wants to remove my whole desktop
apt-mark manual xy marks program xy as manually installed, and apt will happily uninstall program xy, and only program xy

spread awareness of apt-mark
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>update antergos
>screenfetch now shows the arch logo instead so I can post in desktop threads without archfags getting mad
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im too lazy to encrypt my hard drive what doo? also i forgot how i confiugred awesome wm last tiem
>>
Is there a script that will let me format and colorize my terminal prompt? (ie set PS1 colors and so on)

Would be cool to try a bunch of presets rather than go through and mess with that horribly ugly shell script syntax for colorization
>>
>>59798920
Look at how no man pages lead to apt-mark.
>>
>>59798948
DIY

man bash | less -p PROMPTING$

You can add colors like this:
PS1='\[\e[31m\]-= 1337 hacker =-\[\e[m\] $ '
>>
apt/aptitude is objectively inferior to pacman/yaourt

go ahead and prove me wrong
>>
>>59799010
>yaourt
let me guess, you are from reddit
>>
>>59799010
>not using packer
>>
>>59799028
not at all
>>
>>59799010
it had signed packages since forever when arch didnt and arch's devs were too lazy to impliment security features
>>
>>59798920
If he wants to move away from apt he's not an arch user
>>
>>59799010
Can I configure pacman so that is will only accept free software?
>>
>>59799002
I'm aware of how to do it on my own, I was hoping there was a script with a bunch of neat and useful presets.

>>59799010
Arch used to be good but the community that maintains the wiki has really fucked it up. Have been looking to switch distros ever since the wiki nazis took control.
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>>59799042
usually using yaourt is quite a red flag
why not superior pacaur?
>>
>>59799028
who /cower -d url && makepkg -is/ here
>>
>>59799089
the same reason I use Xfce over GNOME or KDE

because I just like it more
stop living in memes
>>
Yo so I just made a VM, installed arch
Downloaded some packages
Now I want to get some shit from AUR, but everytime I try to wget it gives me a 404 error

I tested the URL in browser and I also get a 404.

I think this is a DNS....
>>
>>59799175
>stop living in memes
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_helpers#Comparison_table
>>
>>59798937
You could just set the distro in whatever way you want (such as an alias), or edit /ets/os-release.
>>
>>59799103
just use pacaur my dude
>>
>>59799207
How did you download some packages then?
>>
>>59799207
you are doing it wrong
install ubuntu on bare metal
>>
>>59799214
>>59798937
>jumping through hoops when you can
>alias screenfetch='screenfetch -D gentoo'
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>>59799281
>>59798937
this is some real maximum cringe right here, holy shit, how old are you? 12?
>>
>>59799260
I used pacman
>>
arch is a stepping stone
>>
>>59799334
Do you have IPs in your mirror list?
>>
>>59799043
>had
so it isn't currently an advantage then
what is your point?

>>59799081
>Can I configure pacman so that it will shaft me all the time?
godspeed
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>>59799212
>>59799227
>>59799103
>>59799028
>>59799010
>>59799212
Well they're all green so that must mean that they're GOOD things amirite guys? You want your helper to be as helpful as possible. The more you minimize user interaction the better. jajajajajaja
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>>59799385
>jajajajajaja
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>>59799403
jajajajaja is spanish for hahahahaha
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>>59799385
>he can't into quotes
but yes, you want an helper to be helpful, not a pile of trash that causes further troubles and requires you to stick around while it works
>jajajaj
reddit confirmed
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>>59799423
Who cares about nigger languages?
>>
>>59799447
Fuck off, retard racist.
>>
>>59799428
>but yes, you want an helper to be helpful, not a pile of trash that causes further troubles and requires you to stick around while it works
That's where you're wrong faggot. If you had a tingle of experience you'd understand.
>>
>>59799366
What's wrong with free software?
>>
>>59799428
>>jajajaj
>reddit confirmed
Spanish has nothing to do with reddit what the fuck how are you this dumb?
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>>59799467
don't you check PKGBUILDS, son?
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>>59799428
>>he can't into quotes
*tags
not quoting anybody
>>
arch has no packages, using the aur is installing insecure literally-who-ware
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>>59799489
Do you think yaourt doesn't offer that or something?
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>>59799507
Arch has over 9 000 packages and AUR adds another 30 000, what the fuck are you saying?
>>
>>59794141
>not monolithic
So X.org is not monolithic? All those binaries depend on each other.
>systemd is actually unix
No it isn't. Software that works well together is not the point of UNIX, code that doesn't break as often is.
>systemd is not bloated because I can choose which components I want
Can I choose to use those """modular""" components outside of systemd? No I can't without massive patching.
>>
>>59799083
>community that maintains the wiki has really fucked it up
what do you mean?
>>
>>59799507
>arch has no packages
They don't split packages
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>>59799529
people claim BSD has no packages, yet arch only has 9000 properly maintained ones
>kek
>>
>>59799536
they turned arch into a meme distro
> "kiss", "lightweight", "the arch way"
>>
>>59799467
whats the benefit of using yaourt
>>
>>59797954
I have a script that displays album art in ASCII with mpd if you are interested.
>>
>>59799545
AUR has properly maintained packages.
>>
>>59799357
No I don't. Pacman worked correctly and mirrorlist only has URLs.
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>>59799571
If your script is free software, feel free to post it, otherwise I'm not interested.
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>>59799571
I'm interested
>>
don't use pacman, it can literally break your system
>>
>>59799545
Stop comparing package numbers between distributions that split packages vs ones that don't it's dumb. It's not black and white big guy.
>>
>>59799624
so much for minimalism then ey?
>>
>>59799207

You using git clone?
>>
>>59799281
>not noticing that I've mentioned aliases
>>
>>59799666
Arch is not about "minimalism", it's about convenience.
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I made firefox use kmozillahelper/qt

why are there no thumbnails still
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>>59799723
Because that's not KFileDialog.
>>
>>59799666
>so much for minimalism then ey?
That's an issue of semantics. In a way it is, in other ways it's not.
>>
>>59799723
just install KDE you gtk nigger
>>
>>59799723
It need KDialog.
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>>59799461
>racist
Not an argument
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>>59799723
>>
>>59799867
how many GiB's of KDE dependencies do I need for this?
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>>59799798
Not every exchange is a rebuttal or engagement of debate brainlet cuck
>>
>>59799585
You probably used pacman from the live system or whatever, and not from your installed system.

You need to run something like
systemctl enable dhcpcd@en3sp0

Read the arch wiki on Networking, its linked in the Installation section.
>>
>>59799896
This should cover it.
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>>59799791
I have kdialog installed
/etc/portage/patches/www-client/firefox-kde-opensuse
total 32
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 1296 Apr 8 19:28 firefox-kde-opensuse-47.0-crashreporter.patch
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 376 Apr 8 19:28 firefox-kde-opensuse-47.0-define-HUNSPELL_STATIC-conditionally.patch
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 312 Apr 8 19:28 firefox-kde-opensuse-48.0-pgo.patch
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 381 Apr 8 19:28 firefox-kde-opensuse-force-qt-dialog.patch
-rw-r--r--. 1 root root 1264 Apr 8 19:28 fix_hardened_pie_detection.patch



installed with these patches
custom-optimization dbus gtk2 hwaccel jemalloc kde pulseaudio selinux system-cairo system-harfbuzz system-icu system-jpeg system-libevent system-libvpx system-sqlite -bindist -custom-cflags -debug -egl -gmp-autoupdate -hardened -jack -neon -nsplugin -pgo -rust -startup-notification -test -wifi

and these use-flags
>>
>>59799904
Not an argument
>>
Hi everyone! Who want's to install gentoo - most advanced usable distribution of GNU/Linux?
>>
>>59799982
>ping google.com
cuck spotted
>>
>>59799984
kys
>>
>>59799984
>namefagging
>>>/r/eddit pls go back
>>
>>59799585
>>59799911
test you have internet with ping google.com

if you don't...
systemctl start dhcpcd@xxxxx
systemctl enable dhcpcd@xxxxx

to get xxxx use 'ip -a' and select the appropriate adaptor name

If you are using wifi you will need to reconfigure your ssid wpa config file before doint the above.
>>
>>59799984
filtered
>>
>>59799942
Strange. There must be something missing, did you get the kde4 integration package? That one doesn't show thumbnails if I remember correctly.
>>
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>>59800041
>filters namefag to not give attention
>gives attention through (you)
good work anon
>>
hey /g/, is there a way to have thumbnail view when uploading pictures?
>>
>>59800055
Ah, also, is ui.allow_platform_file_picker set to true?
>>
what comes after gentoo on the epeen ladder?
>>
>>59800081
yes it is true
I have kde-frameworks/frameworkintegration instaleld but no other integration stuff that I can see
>>
>>59800098
Teaching your cat emacs
>>
>>59799911
>>59800027
Everything pings fine
>>
>>59800098
>ention
>>gives
>>59800098
LFS.. BLFS ALFS
>>
>>59799984
install source mage
>>
>>59800098
LFS or your own written entirely in assembly
>>
>>59800125

Hand-made assembly not efficient.
>>
Please help me /fglt/

I wanted to try out GNOME (on Ubuntu Unity) so I installed the ubuntu-gnome-desktop package and switched to the gdm display manager when it asked me. I didn't like it much so I removed it and removed the unused packages. This also ended up removing packages and libraries that gdm needs. So, I can't login to my PC now since the display manager is broken.

My question: can I switch back to lightdm without having to access the login screen? Is there some file somewhere I can edit to switch back to lightdm by using a live ubuntu usb?

I appreciate any help you guys can offer.
>>
>>59800098
slackware
it's harder than gentoo
>manual dependency resolving
I mean come on
>>
Any recommendations for a hidpi compat gui for managing ssh connections? I have 100s of them and ssh_config stuff is hard to remember
>>
>>59800151

chroot with ubuntu live cd and install desktop again.
>>
>>59800151
Why not a tty?
>>
>>59800165
tmux
>>
>>59800159
Sometimes it easier, becouse you don't need every dependency maybe.
>>
>>59799590
>>59799595
https://hastebin.com/ezeqevevoh.bash
You do something with a pipe and ncmpcpp exec_on_song_change option if you want instant updates.
>>
>>59800173
I can install packages on my existing Ubuntu install using a live usb? What could I search to find out more about this

>>59800183
I've no experience using it and have no idea what commands I would even enter
>>
>>59800218

Yes you can.
duckduckgo:
Ubuntu chroot
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>>59800218
Then a live usb is probably the best way, but I'm sure there's some help on the internets you could see. You need to set up the wireless interface, connect and then reinstall your DM, I think.
>>
>>59800218

If you have acces to tty you don't need chroot.
Go in your account type
sudo su
apt install unity-desktop
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changed slot from 5 to 4 for kmozillahelper
[U] kde-misc/kmozillahelper [1]
Available versions:
(4) 0.6.4-r1
(5) (~)4.9.9 (~)4.9.10 (~)4.9.11 (~)4.9.12 (~)4.9.13 (~)4.9.14 (~)4.9.15 (~)5.0.0 (~)5.0.1 (~)9999


it finally works

I was just about ready to kill myself and I hope gtk/gnome devs get a hangnail on every finger
>>
redpill me on manjaro
>>
>>59800196
What license is used for this program? I want to save, modify and even share modifications of it!


Btw, you can drop the awk and just use
mpc current -f %file%
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>>59800196
thanks anon
in this line you forgot the pipe before awk
art="$(find -name Cover.jpg -o -name folder.jpg -o -name \*.jpg -o -type f | awk 'NR==1')"
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>>59800322
Its a nice distro that gets lots of hate by Arch edgelords because it is too comfy.
>>
>>59800322
no security backports
>>
>>59800316
What's wrong with drag and drop?
>>
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Hey I just noticed my numbers look weird in Youtube titles, I'm assuming I'm missing some font, does anyone know what it could be? Weird that the letters look fine, it's just the numbers.
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>>59800354
how comfy is it?

>>59800380
ok
>>
>>59800398
I sometimes miss the box and it opens the image in the same page I was viewing etc
>>
>>59800380
nice meme
>>
>>59800409
ttf-dejavu
>>
>>59800426
Yeah that sucks especially if you have a long ass comment filled out
>>
>>59800409
>>59794733
>>
Best panel?
>>
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halp
>>
New thread: >>59800460
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>>59800466
Have you tried without TLS?
>>
>>59794733
Thanks
>>
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So something related to "sssd" packages was causing problems with updating my fresh fedora install (I think I had a crash during an update and that fucked something up, causing conflicts in future attempts)

I fixed it by first uninstalling "sssd" and then reinstalling everything that was uninstalled

This temporay removal should cause no problems in the future, r-right, or did I goofed
>>
>>59800457
tint2
>>
>>59800238
>>59800255
>>59800265
Thanks guys, I used Ubuntu's recovery mode to set the default dm to lightdm again. Everythings good now.
>>
>>59800503
>This temporay removal should cause no problems in the future, r-right
No
>>
>>59800478
Yes


>>59799911
>>59800027

Here >>59800466
>>
>>59800517
xfce4-panel
>>
>>59800554
Not a connection problem as it's connecting, no TLS.. are you using IPv6? Force ipv4 and add --header "Referer: www.aur.archlinux.com".

I don't know, maybe something will happen
>>
>>59800613
Oh, also use quotes around the url.
>>
>>59800327
MIT if you need one.
>Btw, you can drop the awk and just use
Thanks, noted.
>>59800346
Sorry I must have missed that. I was moving some stuff around.
>>
>>59800613
>>59800633
I tried that before I posted
Didn't work
>>
>>59800834
Shit. Don't know how to help ya then.
>>
>>59800466

Are you just trying to download that package?

make a folder ~/Builds
cd into it
$ sudo pacman -S git
$ git clone https://aur.archlinux.org/linux-mainline.git
cd into linux-mainline
$ makepkg -si

try that.
>>
Just installed Manjaro and wanted to install Infinality fonts on the system.
However I get an error when trying to update my repos.

pacman -Syy
error: could not register 'infinality-bundle' database (database already registered)
:: Synchronizing package databases...
core 138,0 KiB 1484K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
extra 1781,9 KiB 3,50M/s 00:00 [######################] 100%
community 4,1 MiB 7,21M/s 00:01 [######################] 100%
error: failed retrieving file 'infinality-bundle.db' from bohoomil.com : The requested URL returned error: 401
error: failed to update infinality-bundle (unexpected error)
error: failed retrieving file 'infinality-bundle-multilib.db' from bohoomil.com : The requested URL returned error: 401
error: failed to update infinality-bundle-multilib (unexpected error)
multilib 181,5 KiB 2016K/s 00:00 [######################] 100%


Some repos work correctly, like core etc, while the infinality bundles fail.
I added the key to the system btw.

Followed dis guide: https://github.com/Lend27/linuxstuff/blob/master/ManjaroInfinality
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>>59801374
Infinality is ded
also learn2fontconfig
Infinality is bloat
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>>59801374
Infinality is old and busted, go with the times grandpa
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>>59794141
How long have you been a cum dumpster for LP?
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