Previous thread: >>58964753 IRC: #/tpg/ on irc.rizon.

Outside of the retarded layout, how is the X240 keyboard in terms of flexing, sturdiness and all shit that we found in good keyboards?

>decide to try W10 on X220
>bluetooth light on
>disable bluetooth things
>still on
>disable drivers
>still on
>uninstall bluetooth drivers and everything related to bluetooth
>still on

FUCK

>>58988942
Windows 10 is so terrible.

I don't know what we are going to do.

When the latest hardware no longer supports 7, how will we carry on? It seems like Win10 just keeps coming out with new downdates that break shit and cause you to have to either spend hours fixing it or just plain reformat.

Can anyone recommend me a heavyweight older-gen model suitable for 3D Design/ has a decent screen? Cheers
Decent battery a bonus

$400 aud for a 2013 x1 carbon? didnt that model have issues or something?

>>58988973
install gentoo

Is the i7 x230 worth spending $50 more than i5 3320M model?

My first T460 arrived. Should it have a webcam? There's a hole at the top of the screen as if there should be a webcam but it's just a grey surface. No webcam.

>>58988989
W700ds

>>58989013
Only if you really need that 5% more power or just plain want the best

>>58989013
I have an i5 x230, don't think i7 is worth it. Would be better to use that money for upgrades.

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>>58989183
Found one rather cheap on eBay ~$270 US
Light bleed looks prominent on the second monitor, could get it fixed
What would I be like going from an X201 to this big boy? 5KG weight?

>>58989001
anyone?

Should i pull a T410 for 100-120€? What can it do overall? I would be upgrading it with ssd and use it for general browsing and leenux stuff.

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Can I get a price check please?

>W520
>i7 2nd gen
>250GB HDD
>8GB RAM
>NVIDIA Quadro 1000M, 2GB
>15.6'' 1600 x 900

330$

Its a massive pc.

270 is a good price too. I usually see them for 500-1000

>>58988973
>>58988942
install ubuntu and call it a day

seriously, why stay on a sinking ship? I was never part of the linux meme until I bought a new laptop that had Windows 8 on it - it was at that point that I knew there was no going back.

It is 2017 now my friends, and Windows still hasn't been fixed since they came out with the original Windows 8. If they haven't reverted to what is tried and true - that is because they aren't going to.

Better to switch now and make it easy on yourself. While it is true that Ubuntu is easy-babby mode, it lets you switch immediately without having to go through trial by fire, you can do everything you could on windows, and eventually switch distros if you so want.

i dont' game anymore, but to put it in perspective, I was able to run Skyrim on Ubuntu when I still had a gaming PC, before I switched to thinkpads

>>58989497

US? And price varies depending on the exact cpu, i7 2nds gen doesn't mean shit.

Either way, just based on the display, it was probably a low ene w520. $330 is overpriced.

>>58988918
Hackingtoshing my t420 as we speak but I don't have a wifi card for it yet unless I gut an old laptop and find one. Is there a card that will improve my wifi and work with macOS?

>>58989001

Old x1 carbon were pretty shit, wouldn't reccomend an old one over a X/T series. If you want an x1 carbon get at least gen 3. Just be aware x1 carbons have basically everything soldered on except for like the ssd, so buy the exact specs you need.

>>58989263
>Would be better to use that money for upgrades.
Caught you right there. Do not spend money to "upgrade" a 5 year old computer. You will be stuck with it.

There are things like battery life, weight, thickness, DDR4... There are better things in life you can have if you don't put $$$ into an old Thinkpad.

Everybody loves to be memed, but a computer is an important part of life and work these days, don't put yourself through the "old Thinkpad" path.

>>58989160
Press fn and page up
>>58989327
thats a steal
i'd cop

>>58989808
>X230
>old

You must be 18yrs or older to post here

>>58989327
Wat, buy it now. They're expensive as fuck just as a collectors item. If you don't buy it, at least post the link.

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>>58988973
Oh

Oh no

I just had a horrible thought

>ThinkPad 25th Anniversary Edition
>2560x1600 IPS screen
>T60 style keyboard
>12 hour battery life
>completely sturdy frame with zero creak, squeeze or wobble spots

>bootloader locked to Windows 10

>>58988973
>When the latest hardware no longer supports 7, how will we carry on?
You won't have the latest hardware. You are in /tpg/

>>58989852
Still using that iPhone 4? Anything else you're hopelessly nostalgic about other than that last wisp of dignity?

What is the cheapest Lenovo with a good 1080 display?

>>58989972
Probably a T520

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how can i stop the ultrabay caddy from powering down the hdd ? i've put 2x500gb in my t410 and shared them on the network, but sometimes the one in the caddy get's powered down, and that;'s the one i use the most. The machine is mostly turned off, but sometimes after powering on I have to re-insert the caddy to make it detect.

>>58988939
pls respond

>>58989327
W700ds or W701ds

>>58990136
X240 is a fine sturdy machine, better than the X230 and X220

however the touchpad/clickpad/trackpoint buttons are absolute ass

but you can also swap an X250 assembly onto it

I would not consider *40 series if you did not plan on swapping a *50 keyboard/palm rest onto it

>>58990154
W700ds, this model does not have the Walcom Tablet

>>58990218
Well, I was thinking of doing that and also get the 1080p screen for muh DPI.

>>58989969
I'm using a 4s, works fine.

I got a dock for my X230 and it's fantastic. So many ports, so many display options.

Everyone should buy one. They're going for $30 and less on ebay.

>>58988942
Disable it in BIOS.

I wanted a x220 because of the meme keyboard, but I found GREAT deal for a x230 with 16GiB RAM and 256 GiB SSD. Shoud I just buy it already?

How does this look?

>t520
>i7 2nd gen
>4gb ram
>320gb hdd
>full hd 1080 screen

360 dollars

I'm on the verge of pulling the trigger

>>58990564
Fuck the memes. Do it

>>58990621
Seems quite expensive.

You'll still need to add an SSD at least and maybe 8 gigs of RAM. If you don't need an SSD or 8 gigs, you also don't need the i7.

>>58989013
Not really. I think the integrated graphics get a little boost from the i7 IIRC, but for any kind of normie tasks, you won't notice.

t. i7 x230

>>58990664
Thing is, that screen seems to be really hard to come by

>>58990564
After trying it you'll wonder how other chiclet keyboards can be so shit. I was pleasantly surprised.

>>58990564
Swap the meme keyboard into your x230. It's not that hard. I love mine, but during the short time I used the chicletshit keyboard, it wasn't horrible. The backlit one was pretty cool for dark room browsing.

What is a cheap (sub-$100) business class laptop I can use to automate a few web scripts?

>>58990740
T60

>>58989808
tf are you doing in a thinkpad thread? Besides a 3rd gen i5 is enough for most people nowadays, and it will stay that way for the next few years.

>>58989890
>t. linuxshill pro

>>58990920
Trying to get the autist to appreciate the new thinkpads?
I bet that no one has tested one of these and only spouts memes.

Bought a used T430 on eBay as a replacement for my last laptop, how the fuck do I make it stop switching back to 50hz?

>>58990995
The t460 and x260 are the things of dreams. I use a t460 at work. I went for an i7 x260 for $800 but it sold by the time I hit Buy It Now.

>>58991049
Had the same issue, check your advanced power plan options and graphics options. It's probably switching from 60 to 50hz when our laptop goes into battery mode.

If the outlet says "Ships in 3-5 days", when will it really ship?

>>58991367
Yes. In 3 to 5 days.

Can the X220 screen be used on the X230? The X220 IPS screens are easier to find and cheaper than those specifically made for the X230.

How bad is the 1336x768 display on the T420?

The only real reference point I have on me anymore is an old Surface RT and it's not raping my eyes all that badly.

>>58991583
It's not a lot of vertical space but it could be worse. At least for me. I'm used to old Thinkpads and I've never owned a laptop with a higher resolution than 768p. I guess if you're used to more, this won't feel right. I couldn't use it as my main computer. I need at least 1080p to be really comfortable but for a laptop it's usable.

>>58991583
both 900p and 768p are garbage

>>58991632
Well I'm on a craptop with 1080p display right now, thing is that it's kinda starting to smell the acrid smell of a laptop contemplating its own death every time I decide I want to build a project. Been thinking of adopting a Thinkpad to use as the mobile work mule while I gradually phase out my current laptop to a desktop.

I've never been much a stickler for graphical fidelity, running fast matters more to me than looking good.

>>58990549
fucking windows 10.

>>58991446
Yes.

However the older X220 IPS screens suffer from bad burn in issues. This was fixed or at least wasn't as bad in the later model X220's and X230's.

I know because I have an X220 with an IPS screen and bad screen burn in.

I'm not sure if there's a way to tell by the manufacture dates or lot numbers if it's an "old" or "new" screen.

If I had to replace the screen I would go for an X230's IPS screen... The screen burn in is very annoying.

>cherry picked and made a like pristine frakenpad out a pile of used thinkpads

>AYO ANON WE GOT A NEW SHIPMENT OF THINKPADS IN
>THEY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT THEY'RE YOUR MODEL +10

what do?

What is best model for libre Thinkpad?

the choice for think pads and elite books in the UK is so limited and everything is so overpriced, why is that?

Could i get an opinion on these?

>W500
>Intel Core 2 Duo P8600 2×2,40GHz L2 3Mb
>4 GB RAM
>ATI FireGL V5700 + Intel HD Graphics
>120GB SSD
>15,4’WSXGA+ 1680×1050

230$


>Apparently sold as T420 even if it is T420i
>Intel i5-2520M Dual Core 2,5GHz
>500 GB and a 24GB mSATA SSD
>iGPU (?)

140$

>>58991984
way too much there is a w500 for sale in my area with a core 2 duo t9900 and a 1920x1200 display for $100 AUD Lacks an ssd tho

>>58992001
>core 2 duo
Go for it. Penryn is not a meme.

>>58992036
penryn cpus arent that far off first gen core i series am i right?

>>58991984
for that price I got a i3 3120M machine which is basically double the performance of p8600

>>58992040
Penryns are fucking incredible to this day, unless you care about benchmarks.

>>58992068
>>58992001
I considered it a bit too high, too. How about the T420? Would the SSD outweigh the price?

>>58992132
if its in good condition its a good deal, if not its average at best

>>58992068
>i3 3120M
wew lad

Honestly the Dell XPS M1730 is looking pretty affordable now. Especially to ride out the fad of comfy RGB.

It would be fun to take to the coffeeshop with my bros.

also:
>not having retro computing friends
anyone else have retbros?

>>58992068
you poor soul

Thinking about saying fuck it and just carrying a W520. They can't be that heavy, right?

>>58992213
don't those have dual GPU?

>>58992213
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBfCFHbraVM
wtf

>>58992277
damn

>>58992277
Ok it can play Crysis, so what?

>>58992213
fuck i remember these back in the day, configuring them on the dell website. I fucking frothed them.

>>58992213
Damn, how did these stay under the radar?

>>58992361
they didn't
that's why /g/ doesn't know that much about them

>>58991968
because HP is American and ThinkPads were also American under IBM

so importing and taxes and VAT and junk would have made them extra expensive to begin with, meaning businesses and individuals would be less likely to adopt them

>>58992277
It can get dubs AND run Crysis?

>>58991811
Good to know. It's just that finding X230 IPS screens is kinda hard, at least in Germany. I don't want to import stuff but the only new IPS screen I found on ebay was 260€. That's bullshit. Anyways, thanks for the help. I suppose if I buy a new X220 screen that hasn't been used before I should be fine.

Do you have any experience with the classic keyboard on newer models? From what I've heard you have to flash the BIOS to use all functions. If I do that, will the new keyboard still work properly? I guess not.

>>58991910
X220 or T420. I think these are the newest models that can actually run a free initialization program.

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>>58988918
Hello I'm new to computers. Is a ThinkPad worth buying or should I waste my $1,000 on a MSI or MacBook?

>>58992723
macbook only buy if a thinkpad if you want
>shit battery life
>shit screen
>plastic
>thick bulky and heavy laptop

>>58992746
>shit battery life
for the last time people, buy a new battery. BUY A NEW FUCKING BATTERY

>shit screen
there are good resolution options. what more do you want? these were designed to edit text and spreadsheet. if you buy one for all your media needs you're obviously in the wrong

>plastic
at least every part of the case (which is actually enforced with metal) is replacable. if you drop your macbook and the unibody gets a ditch it's basically ruined because the unibody is 90% of the reason to buy a macbook.

>thick bulky and heavy laptop
you should be more concerned about footprint actually. if 2-3kg is too much for you you might just be a manlet.

>>58992723
>Hello I'm new to computers.
Leave. Seriously. You do not want /tpg/'s help. Go watch some reviews. look for something newer i7 on ebay. Thinkpads are good. t460 with i5 can be good. MSI isn't all that bad. Leave now, you don't know the memes you are about to fall for.

>>58992904
>>58992746
>thick bulky and heavy laptop
Yeah right, enjoy your tablet with a keyboard (sometimes mistaken for a laptop) that doesn't even have an ethernet port.

>>58992914
Don't tell him!

>>58992723
leave, before it's too late.
get a T4** or a X2**

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>>58992746
>implying a macbook would pass a single mil-spec test
>implying a macbook can be used to type anything more than a whatsapp style text message with it's mouse button grade keyboard. my nexus 7 keyboard case was more comfortable than your shit.

>>58992904
So Thinkpads are not good for gaming or youtube?

>>58992989
God, no. These aren't multimedia laptops. They're office computers. Graphics performance is passable at best and the screens aren't made for media consumption or creation.

>>58992987
mil-spec is a meme except for the actual ruggedized models like toughbooks or Dell XFR's which have proper dust and water protection...

>>58992989
all depends on the specs, some are some are not

>>58993037
>mil-spec is a meme
my thinkpad has been through a trip through africa and still worked with all the desert sand on it. i literally washed it off with a bucket of water and it still werks perfectly.

>>58993070
if you're wondering, X60
I've given it to my dad last year. nowadays I use an X230

>>58988335
>The T420 only supports SATA2 thorugh mSATA.

The T430 and T430s do support SATA3 through mSATA, right?

>>58993147
No. It's still SATA2. SATA3 is not possible with the old mSATA standard.

Is there any reputable source for the slice batteries for the T420?

>>58993237
You'll probably have to look for an ebay seller with mostly positive reviews. That's probably the best you can do. They're not really easy to come across.

>>58993027
>o f f i c e c o m p u t e r s
I love the irony, /g/. I love that you all defend these computers when they are off lease from literal jews.

>>58992936
i will thanks

>>58993188
ah, thanks. Now, which is the first thinkpad to have M.2 ?

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Are there any reports of successful non-Lenovo MXM swaps in the P70?

I realize P70 is too expensive and bios modding is too advanced for this thread, but maybe someone has seen something.

>>58992746
oh god, we've been infiltrated by toddlers again! how's that youtube channel of your's doing? it's gonna take of any minute now because you uploaded tons of top 10 charts covers you edited in logic pro, right?

>>58993334
I think it's the *40 series. If I were to buy a Thinkpad this new I'd actually go for a *50 series. At least they have trackpoint buttons.

>>58993354
Isn't the whole point of MXM to make the GPU swappable?

>>58993357
its doing great thanks! (typing this on my thinkpad)

>>58992904
Why use a battery when you just take out the battery and plug it in?

>>58993458
because laptops are supposed to be mobile devices

>>58993458
I don't really understand what your point is. Anon pointed out that, if you're buying a used ThinkPad, you should be prepared to buy a new battery as well. At least you got the option to do that on a ThinkPad. If you have a laptop as restrictive as a Macbook it's basically useless as a mobile computer once the battery is dead.

>>58993447
guess what? lenovo likes to put whitelists on everything

Well I just pulled the trigger on a T420

$129 for a refurb: 4GB RAM, 128GB SATA SSD, i5-2520, 1336x768 display, win7pro 64bit (planning on dualbooting the fucker tho)

How bad did I fuck up?

>>58993357
Oh, you don't like Youtube on your Lenovo TN panel?

>>58993509
They went as far as to integrate the vbios into the main system bios to make sure any third party cards would fail to start

>>58993486
Just plug it in when you get home or school?

>>58993499
You still don't need one.

>>58993509
I haven't checked the available options. Is it really that bad? Are there really no whitelisted options you'd be satisfied with?

Anyways, considering Lenovo's restrictive policies concerning the BIOS, flashing it is probably pretty difficult. I haven't found any reports yet either. You'd probably end up with a full brick.

>>58993551
>being that guy who needs to be near an outlet

>>58993600
Okay I don't think you understand how computers work, anon.

>If you have a laptop as restrictive as a Macbook it's basically useless as a mobile computer once the battery is dead.

You know you can replace them if you're not a normie, right? Oh, and that they last longer than Lenovo batteries too. Oh, and they power a better computer.

>>58993551
>You stil don't need one.
Are you drunk? We're talking laptops here.

>>58993532
I was just pointing out that the most stupid of wannabe YouTubers show off their Macbooks and the high end software they're never gonna put to good use.

>>58993551
You're absolutely right. I've actually found a way to create electricity from oxygen so I don't need a battery on my laptop. The government doesn't want me to tell you about it though. They have kidnapped my pet unicorn.

>>58993369
>the *40 series
Oh, indeed. Now the hardware maintenance manual left me puzzled with this:

>If the computer is equipped with both a hard disk drive and an M.2 solid-state drive, do not use the M.2 solid-state drive as a bootable device. The M.2 solid-state drive is designed and developed for “cache” function purpose only.

>>58993551
>Just plug it in when you get home or school?

OK, let's see...
>be me
>no battery because I can just plug my laptop in
>7am, get on train to university
>no outlet, can't use my laptop
>8am, arrive for first lecture
>in the middle of auditorium, 200 people, 2 outlets in the corner of the room, can't use my laptop
>lunch time
>no outlet to be seen at cafeteria, can't use my laptop
>it's great to own a laptop

>>58993728
that sounds... stupid
this shit will be probably enforced by lenovo's piece of shit BIOS. thinkpads are kill my friend.

>>58993750
>in the middle of auditorium, 200 people, 2 outlets in the corner of the room, can't use my laptop

This is why I'm glad I go to NYU, we have outlets on the back of every chair in the auditorium.

>>58993750
heh, got one more

>carry around power brick all day
>finally find an outlet
>classmates trip over it
>professor tells me I'm stealing power from university
>actually get charged with theft

I'm not even joking. This is true. I once had to charge my phone at uni and they expelled me because I was stealing power.

>>58993728
I believe that it's only set up that way from the factory. There wasn't an option for an M.2 boot drive.

99% sure you can stick your own M.2 SSD in it and run it however you like though.

>>58993813
Surely the tuition expenses you paid included those maintenance and utility fees that, in addition to allowing the university to run and have functioning electrical outlets, should also completely undermine any argument that you stole anything whatsoever from them, because YOU PAID FOR THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE.

HOW IN THE CHRIST DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE WHATSOEVER.

>>58993848
No, we don't pay for University in my country. It's free. Not free as in free speech, it's gratis.

>>58993882
Appearantly, they informed every student via E Mail that using the power outlets was not allowed.

What is the most comfy Thinkpad for just
>ricing
>shitposting
>no botnet
???

>>58993813
Ask me how I know you're a white male.

>>58994533
ask me how I know you're wrong

>>58994522
t400

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Pretty happy with it tbqh

Are there any good non-lelnovo batteries for the T430?

>>58993622
I know how ~2012 thinkpads work

>>58994573
How am I wrong?

Where should I buy an X220? I want a small computer to replace my Asus T100 and the X220 looks sexy. My only requirement is an SSD, but I saw that they were selling it with SSD on newegg.

How would a x230 Tablet perform gayming-wise? I don't gayme much, but I do like playing vanilla WoW private servers and I may want to give Overwatch a shot.

>>58995455
about as well as any other machine running on Intel HD 4000 I'm guessing

Can I get a recommendation for a laptop with

>good battery life
>1080p resolution
>8gb ram

400-500 dollar limit

>>58995649
Oh and intel processor

Public Service Announcement:

-The Intel 7260 Wireless 802.11AC/Bluetooth card works in a T61 with Middleton BIOS

-It DOES NOT work in the right-most mini PCIE slot, works in the original wireless card slot

-If you get Error 99 while trying to flash Middleton BIOS, go into BIOS settings and disable the security chip.

-Middleton BIOS requires a good, working battery to install

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Should work fine for the x220t right? I've got just enough gift balance for it.

>>58996045
same size and aspect ratio so it'll cover the important bits at least

but the distance between the keys/trackpoint and the screen is already a very close fit, putting a screen protector on it might be counterproductive

also it's a laptop, you shut it and the screen is safe... unlike a phone or tablet

>>58995649
>>58995661
Size? What thinkpad features do you want? That list of properties fits any thinkpad x40 gen onwards, as well as all T5xx laptops.

>>58992989
x30 gen onwards will do almost all modern games with low settings, or medium + if you chose a model with a dedicated gpu. Any thinkpad before the t/x/r60 will struggle to do more than 720p video.

>>58993728
it says that on all models with the capacity for an msata or m.2 or whatever, doesn't make a difference. My X230 runs fine booting from msata, it's only intended for the OEM installed drive.

someone link me to a good deal for an x220 or x230 from a reliable seller

>>58997593
Just do a fucking eBay search. They are used Thinkpads.

Where can I buy English or Japanese t420 keyboards at a reasonable price? What about some 9-cell battery?

Should I avoid chink knockoffs?

and whats a reasonable price for them?

>>58997785
link?

How come only some of the X220s have fingerprint scanners?

>>58997798
Ask me how I know you're Indian.

>>58997806


Because when they were bought new 4-5 years ago, the original owner/company had the option to pay extra for it or not.

>>58997791

ebay

probably

I wouldn't pay more than $20, unless you're dedicated on obtaining a brand new never used one.

I don't know how to code or anything and I've never used Linux in my life outside of messing around and installing it on my PS3.

What's the best for windows 7 users who absolutely can't stand windows 10? It's going on my main computer, which is a thinkpad. I gave windows 10 a two week try and it was horrible. I can't get used to that shit.

>>58990920
>3rd gen i5

hah look at this kid

6th gen i7 here

>>58998093

>>58998093

Stick with Windows 7? If not, xfce is comfy. I'd recommend Xubuntu, lightweight and easy to use.

>>58998125

What can you do on a skylake U series i7 that you can't do on an Ivybridge M series i5

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>>58998167
>not wanting a sleek sexy new computer

>>58998177
you ever cut yourself with that edge? looks like it'd be fucking painful.

>>58998177
>glossy screen
>permanent Windows emblem
my condolences...

>>58998216
>>58998219
nope it's the perfect computer

>t430 /w 5400m
"the device nvs 5400m cannot be ejected or removed", gpu no longer appears in device manager
go to bios change to dedicated. gpu shows up. go back to optimus. gpu dissapears.
reinstall drivers. reinstall os. nothing
>motherboard is fucked
order replacement motherboard. install. same.fucking.thing.jpeg
test ram sticks and slots. same thing.
swap i7 3630qm with og i5 3320m
gpu is back.

fucking i7 was preventing 5400m from initializing

god fucking damn it

>>58998177
cute pupper

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Actually the X40 is the perfect computer.

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>>58998279

>not the x330

I have the keyboard/palmrest to switch, just lazy as fuck

>>58998485
fuck me that is so nice

>tfw i will never have one
such is life

>>58998485
Wallpaper?

>>58998485
what Wallpaper?

>>58998485
is that ilya kuvshinov's work?

Can anyone tell me what's the onboard amp on the T420?
And has anyone ever tried modding the speakers since they are godawful?

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Where can I buy some cool anime stickers?

>>58999231
aliexpress, redbubble
shit like that

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>>58998485
x40 is comfy and patrician, also no botnet and 10+ hours of battery

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>buy used thinkpad for $200
>getting a new battery from lenovo costs $100
>half the entire cost of the laptop is on the battery

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>>58999252
I wish 4:3 was still a thing

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BREHS

look what i just scored
thinkpad 755cx

pic not mine, I still have to round up a power adapter and look at the battery etc

but why don't we have this form factor with a wide screen and do away with the palmrest completely?

>>58999343
>>getting a new battery from lenovo costs $100
>>from lenovo
buy chink

>>58999343
>buy chinese battery for $25
>?
>profit

>>58999343

Why are you buying a battery from lenovo?

Seems to me you're just fucking yourself because you're a masochist.

>>58999361
because normies only know how to operate a touchpad and can't learn anything else

>>58999365
>>58999373
>>58999409
>buying a chinese time bomb

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Are there that many wacom enabled Lenovo or HP devices that are around $500 that have a better than 1366x768 display and a cpu newer than a 2nd gen core-i cpu?

My x220t shat the bed and I just want to replace it, I'm tired of fixing it.
I did do a lot of drawing on it, so I want to replace it with another wacom pen enabled device, but I don't know of many within my budget that aren't just little 10" intel atom tablets.

How is the T430s?
I'm looking at a model with the usual i5-3320M CPU.

>>58999446
there is literally no difference between the lenovo branded time bomb and the generic kind

anyway I bought two and both have sanyo cells

>>58993070
>thinks that really happened.flac

>>58998167
Attract women

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>>58998606
>>58998819


>>58998875
Not sure, got it off /fa/ a while back

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>>58999639
>browsing /g/ on my thinkpad at starbucks
>no girls ever compliment or talk to me

>>58999669
Welcome to the world of attracting women. First lesson: Most women will not ever move a finger to talk to you, even if find you somewhat interesting. You should talk to them

Some nigger broke my X220's display port trying to put a flashdrive in it. Never had to use it, but damn, my autism hurts.

>>58999749
Buy an i7 motherboard.

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>>58999669
Oh hi anon, want to exchange some naughty files? We can use IRDA!

>>58999749

kek, they don't even look alike

Are there big differences between the X and the T series in terms of build quality? My X201 is not feeling well and I'm thinking about replacing it with the new X260 or the bigger T460.

>>58992723
you buy chinkpads only if you don't have wads of cash laying around

>>58999960

If you're buying new might as well hold off for the x270/t470, they're coming very soon. Either way, thinkpads past the 30 series have the new chassis which aren't regarded very well here due to "inferior build quality" take that as you will. I wouldn't expect much between the quality from the same series.

>>58999649
it's his work i confirmed it

>>59000010
is the inferior build quality really a deal breaker? have people started to look at other brands (as for business laptops) for that reason?

>>58989327
holly shit thats a nice deal its a work station its a fucking beast has build in graphic tablet with stilus, monitor calibration etc etc they still go for around 1000 bucks

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>>58999994
Are they really that bad? Sheesh.

>>59000000
>>58999999

>>59000116
They're good for money. The fuck did you expect? 1000$ of modern quality and performance? Tech goes forward, you know? Screens for example are miles ahead to what they were few years ago

>>59000010
the new t470 is supposed to have a redesigned chassis, isn't it?

>>58999516
As with all T series slim models, it has the problem of a smaller battery (maximum main battery is 6 cell ~48 Wh, whereas normal T430 can do 6 cell ~60 Wh or a 9 cell). This can be severely limiting without a chunky slice since you'll net 5 hours at most

Otherwise, it's just a thinner T series with a magnesium alloy base chassis instead of plastic

>>58998279
>1.8" PATA
Maybe if you do some modding

>>58998177
Modern T series is slim enough. And it doesn't have that shitty reflective screen.

>>58998177
yeah that glossy screen is awful. what were u thinking?

Is it possible to use an x61s keyboard on my t420 for diagnostic purposes?

Are T440/T450/L440/L450 interchangeable?

Are T440/T450/L440/L450 keyboards interchangeable?

>>59000291
6 cell is enough, thanks.
This is for my dad, would a 768p screen be better than a 900p? His sight is not what it once was

>>58988942
>sudo rfkill block bluetooth
>bluetooth light off
problem? :^)

>X220 i7-2640m
>new 9cell
>max 6hours on battery
is it normal?
What about battery time in i5 version?

>>59001173
6hours - web
8 - without

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>>58999020

>>59001187
Considering Lenovo claims a maximum of 9 hours with the 9 cell battery, this is pretty realistic.

I know this is sort of dumb, but can I have a picture of the X220 next to other items, such as keyboards, cups, whatever? I need some sort of size comparison.

Also, is it too difficult to install an IPS screen on that?

>>58999587
Link to the chink battery or kys.

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>>59001404
Every i7 versions have IPS
Here u go picture of X220 with PSP, S2 and WD external drive

>>59001525
Problem is I can't find any version with IPS, however I can find replacements. I live in a shit country.

>>59001404
Installing and IPS display isn't that hard. You just have to be careful with that display bezel. It's fragile as fuck.

>>59001525
Oh btw many thanks for the picture

>>59001549
Where do you live?
I bought in poland X220 with i7, 16G ram and 120G SSD for ~250$
You must every day looking for websites like ebay(in your country) and waiting for cheap i7 chinkpad

>>59001592
Spain. I guess I need to look harder. I really want exactly that and I'm willing to pay a bit more than 300€ for it.

>>59001592
>poland
yeah that was so cheap because it was stolen

>>5899452
Exactly what I do with my T400

>>59001672
Nah, I dont think so.
And BIOS password was unset.

>>59001741
Who uses a BIOS password anyways? I certainly don't.

So, what makes x220t worse than x220?

I'm seeing a few of these, I can see how the stylus thing can be pretty useful.

>>59001862
It's nice to have but the hinge the X220t uses is not half as durable as the standard hinges. And it's harder to replace. Basically, once the hinge is through, the whole machine is.

Anyone here with any experience with the Latitude E7470?

I could get a good deal on a brand new one

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Heres the big question:

lower-left corner palm stickers on or off?

>>59001905
Ah, damn. That reminds me of my days with my DS Lite. I guess I'll pass on that.

By the way, I've seen that W10 chokes on it, is 8.1 compatible with all of its hardware/functions or does it require 7?

>>59001970
Windows 8 or 8.1 would work just fine if you can look past the limited performance. Windows 10 shouldn't be that bad actually. It ran pretty smooth even on my T400 which had a Core2 CPU. If you want a Thinkpad tablet used for a good price, why not consider the X230? The performance is sufficient for Windows 10 and from what I've heard the hinges are a bit more durable. I think the X230t hinges are even compatible with the X220t but I'm not entirely sure.

>>59001965
On, that looks like one hell of a frankenpad my dude,

I'm retarded as fuck, but do WiFi antennas matter at all when upgrading the card? i.e. if I upgrade from 802.11n to AC will the antennas cause a bottleneck?

In my mind I cant think of a reason why but I haven't been able to find anyone asking the same question, but like I said maybe that's because I'm the biggest retard in existence.

>tfw horrible screen burn in on my x230t after leaving this on for just 20 seconds: https://marco.org/rmbp-irtest.html

bad feel

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>>59000971
That's for you to decide since eyesight has varying degrees of shittiness. But I thought all T4*0s models generally had the higher resolution display anyway (and the 1366*768 is really terrible)

>>59002031
As long as there's enough antennas it's fine. Ignoring any sort of voodoo, 11ac uses the same frequencies, just with bigger bands

>>59001862
Maximum 6 cell battery and there's a pair of rubber tabs on the bezel which keep the display from rotating when closed (or in tablet mode) because lelnovo is silly and decided to phase out latches. They have a tendency to fall off if you ignore them for long enough.

Am I dumb for picking a w520 w/i7 sandy 2.4ghz quad + dgpu quadro 1000m (fermi) over a dell workstation with a quad HASWELL i7 2.7ghz 4800MQ w/ amd nodrivers?

Logic tells me to pick the dell but it's so fucking ugly and I won't be able to meme with you guys

>>59002274
Do you wear diapers in public?

>>59001791
It is a business laptop no gaming machine. Lots of corporations use this

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can someone spoonfeed me a link to cheap thinkpad
please

>>59002745
I know but usually when they return the laptops when the leasing contract is over they remove the BIOS password. Some contracts even require them to. Basically if you get a used Thinkpad that has a BIOS password you can be 90% sure it was set up by a private user.

https://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/sys/5988340207.html

those pics arent all the same thinkpad and they dont even give you a good view

do i bring a gun?

>>59002753
http://ebay.com/itm/272560548714

>>59002693
>Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
It works, does it not?
>>59002775
Yes.

>>59001965
Off.
If you're going to go full retard with stickers, do it on both palm rests. Otherwise, naked is best.

>>59002274
You can put a 6 cell slice on the tablets, making it 12 cell total.

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>>59001965
>put dual Xeon stickers on my X230T

>>59000291
>it's just a thinner T series with a magnesium alloy base chassis instead of plastic

does the T430 non-s, or any other T series thinkpad, have no alloy chassis?

>>59001965
>Not having 9 CPUs in your laptop

>>59001965
Needs moar. Why the tape and the blue spraypaint on the right palmrest though?

Is the L series decent enough?

I want to get something new but affordable

Just need 16GB RAM for VMware

>>59004327
Wouldn't recommend it. You could also buy a 2 year old T series and put in 16GB yourself.

>>58998485
nice

>>58998177
Isn't there botnet in the actual hardware now though? Almost threw a grand at a nice t460 last night, but I know my T61 is so much less invasive and more secure.

>have i3 X131e with no screen
>bought it for the SSD
>get some X120e's
>pull screen and put it on X131e
>doesn't fit, too tall
>dremel the hinges
>screen fits but top part of screen is visible under the bezel
>have to file bottom bezel so bottom screen fits
All to save $30 from buying a screen

>>59001187
consider a brand new 9 cell battery is 94wh. my i5-2540 jumps around 10-20w usage using the browser and wifi, depending on loading page, scrolling page, page idle as i read, background scrips, etc. assuming it averages 15w consumption from web use, that'd be about 6h15m expected battery life.

Hey guys i just bought a t420 and i'd like to know how well it perform on csgo and if i need to buy an external graphic card since it has the intel chipset

>>59004671
The overriding question I'd ask is this:

>am I important enough to be hacked?

I mean yeah anyone that can be converted to a bot is a worthwhile target when assembling a botnet, but I'd argue that as long as you don't let other people mess with your machine and as long as you operate it like an intelligent human being you're secure enough.

Most attacks tend to be against the human element anyway. A secure system is only as strong as its weakest link, and the human is the weakest link.

But don't take my word for it, I dabble in security as a hobby of sorts.

>>58999361
>My Briefcase
>The Internet

What can you tell me about Windows 95? What have we improved from there?

>>58999452
>My x220t shat the bed and I just want to replace it, I'm tired of fixing it.
> Asks for more Lenovo or HP devices
Seems to me you're just fucking yourself because you're a masochist.

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I LOST IT
It was in my fucking shopping cart for fuck sakes, I should have bought it then
Messaging seller to see if they still have it/ if it was only a eBay listing time expiry
Pls, I just want it for the 1920x1200/secondary meme monitor

Any decent ThinkPad's with a 3k or 4k display?

>>59004996
What happened to your x220t? i know they fail a lot but they are cheaper than x220 and tablet mode.

>>58999755
>i7

It's like you hate battery life or something. The x220 doesn't really have it to begin with unless you slap on that slice, adding size and weight to fix what shouldn't have been so bad in the first place.

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>>59004960
I was around all this time, I had an account with one of the oldest dial-up ISPs in the whole country in the early 1990s.

Basically we were doing exactly what we do now, but on much less hardware, and the computers themselves felt a lot nicer. Video was the size of a postage stamp but we didn't care.

I was able to access CUSeeMe for business though, and later PGPfone came into use. Years before Skype and much more secure.

The keyboard on this thing feels much better than even that on a T60/61 or X40/60 series machine. I still haven't powered it up but I will post some pics when I do.

>>58989001
If it has a haslel processor, then yeah, funked keyboard layout
Good price though, you cant upgrade RAM

>>58989497
Fair price, if its flawless then pretty much spot on, I think they can still go for $400-500 if it was FHD and 16GB RAM

>>58989327
Sold my W700ds last year for $950 2.53GHz Core 2 Quad, 8GB RAM, 128GB SSD + 500GB HDD, Dock 2.0, Digitizer, w/ Windows 7 Pro, FX3700m GPU.

If it comes with an AC adapter, its most likely worth it.

>>58992213
Not really any retrobros in SD.
Though I do want to maybe make a group of some, meet some cool people when I sell old computer stuff.

>>58992723
Leave
Just buy a macbook now instead of buying an HP which will overheat

>>59000010
>>59000104

Have either of you owned a t460? They are solid as hell.

>>59005029
Different anon, but I was a wee shit back in the Win9x years, care to remind me what the Briefcase was for?

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>>59005052
>solid
new W and T series are trash

>>59005064
X250 is quite solid.

>>59004823
Why? You're not gonna resell that frankenthing are you

Also, got some opinion on this?
>>59003062

>>59005056
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Briefcase_(Microsoft_Windows)

I barely used Windows 95, by that time I was running Slackware on my 486.

>>59000130
>They're good for money.
Unless you need them to make money. 2012-2015 Macbook Pros are the only platform to really be so far ahead of the curve in usefulness that you could use them for easily until 2020 without sacrificing productivity against newer machines.

>>59005052
my dad uses a t460 for work, feels kinda cheap honestly

lenevo really needs to get back on their shit

>>59000602
he can just get a matte screen protector. calm down.

>>59005079
Oh.

Huh, that's actually not the stupidest idea out there.

Reminds me a bit of version control in a loose sense.

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>>59000291
>>1.8" PATA
I was able to get an SSD that fits and PATA's not too shabby for such an old machine. It runs Debian 8 with XFCE just great. Powertop consistently shows that I draw about 4-5 watts with the wifi off and my aggressive optimizations in place. Sadly the Atheros card I have draws 7-10 watts at all times, I need to fix that and I'll have an easy 15 hour battery life on the X40.

>>59001525
>Every i7 versions have IPS
*leans into mic*
"wrong"

>>59001965
How many gaddam processors do you have in that thing? And how?

Do you have specs, benchmarks, or estimates? Thanks.

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>>59001465
Here, now you kill yourself. These are out of stock now but I just bought mine a few weeks back.

>>59005112
Yeah it was because floppies were the lingua franca of data portability back then.

>>59005013
I've had two of them fail at the mobo level, and one the IPS burned in and I sold it as parts.

They fixed the burn-in issue on the later generations, but the x230 tablet IPS still had issues with displays and system board. Not as widespread as the nVidia T61, but something to watch out for as they age. If you screen flickers at startup or log in I would start looking for a new computer. It may do it for months, or days, you just never know.

Is it a bad idea to change a chink battery 18650 batteries?
Is it hard?

>>59005064
The insecurity is overwhelming.

>>58998093
Keep windows 7 or get Windows 8.1 w/ class shell.

As the other anon stated, Xubuntu is great, as its a lighter version of Ubuntu which is a super popular linux platform because of ease of use & packages.

You'll need Wine and Play on Linux if you want to play games or Windows only programs.
I'm able to play League on my T430s fine and Photoshop works.

>>58998279
Dunno about its low voltage Pentium M... the price to pay for a smol ThinkPad

>>58999361
Nice, you'll love the keyboard. A totally different feel from keyboards now, probably the best feeling keyboard on a laptop I've used yet.

>>59000908
I think the L series uses Edge keyboards, so no, might be slightly different.
>check FRU numbers

>>59005155
Thank you.

>>59005064
>implying 2015 W550 is still new

>>59005075
I just been tired of seeing it broken and I wanted to bust out the dremel again.
Right now it has W8.1 on a 64GB 2.5" bay, I dunno what distro for the mSATA port. So far Solus is not updating or has my wifi working. :x

>>58993037
>>58993070
Mil-spec IS a meme, but IP industry standard testing is not. If you ever see a product that claims to be rugged or mil-spec and they don't have an IP rating prominently in their advertising literature, it's a fucking meme. If they DO have the IP standards listed you can know how rugged your thing is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code

>>59005079
Shit, that's a good idea. Windows 95 had to be the best system out there for business at the time, if you knew how to use it, I guess. Crazy to think people accomplished so much on those systems.

I'd like to know of any stories or experiences with Windows 95. Was it more capable than we give it credit for?

>>59002693
>Am I dumb for picking a w520 w/i7
Yep, really dumb. that dell has vastly superior IPS screen and is worth at least 3 times as much

>>59005092
>my dad uses a t460 for work
When was the last time you thanked him for his support while you were growing up? For continuing to provide even when you were being a little shit?

>>59005196
>buying anything under 4 stars on Amazon
I didn't know anyone would actually do this. No wonder you can't afford real batteries.

>>59005064
I have a w541. After about a year of going back and forth to work with me in a laptop bag, there are wear marks on the matte screen from the key edges.

Ive had thinkpads back to t40 and there is one truth, performance and build quality are an inverse relationship.

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>>59005251
>insecurity
yeah they have botnet too, it's crazy, and also lenovo spyware probably still too

>>59005265
>low voltage Pentium M
It's actually pretty much the basis for all modern Intel CPUs and runs circles around the contemporary Pentium 4's running full voltage, it shitposts and runs Dwarf Fortress and Quake 3 and will happily decode full HD video and show it on the XGA screen.

The SSD helps, but despite the fact that I have a big swap partition on the SSD just in case (yeah yeah but I've been doing this for over 15 years) it barely touches it. Also I have my own custom kernel with every feature lit up.

Took about 16 hours to compile the kernel while the computer was in full use, some day I will recompile the whole system and see how long that takes (weeks?) but it's comfy as fuck, gets a shit load of runtime on the battery, has all my ports for ham radio, and is overall just perfect for its application.

I have a real 'desktop' computer and if I need to do some heavy lifting it's just a ping away.

>>59005265
>Nice, you'll love the keyboard. A totally different feel from keyboards now, probably the best feeling keyboard on a laptop I've used yet.
Yeah I played around with every kind of Thinkpad back in the olden days but couldn't afford them and didn't have as fine a sensibility for keyboards.

>>59005265
>implying
I just don't like chinkpads, so shoot me.

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>>59005337
>real batteries
this computer's from 2004 mate, all the "real" batteries are old as fuck but I am a wizard with bringing old batteries back to life

i call it battery necromancy

>>59005265
A very honest question to which I have no other way to ask you:

How do you feel about Donald Trump?

>>59005297
You picked a Sandy quad over a Haswell quad? Why didn't you just wait for better options?

>>59005346
>laptop bag
Do people actually use dedicated laptop bags?


I also always wonder why so many people buy those thin fabric or neoprene cases on Amazon.

>>59005361
>>insecurity
>yeah they have botnet too, it's crazy, and also lenovo spyware probably still too


>accused of insecurity
>immediately mentions "botnet"
Like pottery.

>>59005361
Any info on spyware in the *30 series? Does it plant anything in Windows (besides Computrace of course)

>>59005394
>You picked a Sandy quad over a Haswell quad
not me. You're citing the wrong person. He dun goofed hard thoguh. Assuming they were similarly priced

>>59005421
Well you have your layers of spyware:
>Intel ME
>Computrace (in BIOS?)
>whatever MS spyware comes standard on a computer
>probable Lenovo spyware as well, they've done it before

I'm guessing that running Linux will pretty much invalidate everything but the Management Engine but you never know. It'd be interesting to observe one of these properly in a fresh from factory configuration and see just what's what but I don't want to buy one new.

Maybe we can form a new industry standards body where we test computers and phones and TVs in a fresh from factory configuration and see how bad their botnets are. I would support a government-funded lab for this if they did it up right.

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>>59005394
>Do people actually use dedicated laptop bags?
>I also always wonder why so many people buy those thin fabric or neoprene cases on Amazon.

I have a lame-ass looking Jansport backpack with a zippered compartment for a laptop on the back, it's quite well protected and doesn't look like a computer bag at all. I have had it for over 15 years and it protected my Powerbook G4 from wear and damage. I don't really use it now but I have a T60 that I just got which I might try out in there.

>>59005556
I just have a backpack with a dedicated laptop pocket inside.

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>>59005556
X220 and some books

>>59005556
>Jansport backpack
Patrician taste, my man. D-do you also like tummies?

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>>59005709
girl tummies

>>59005774
Looks like I I just made a new internet friend.

>>59005694
I like messenger bags because you can take stuff out without putting them down. But they are gay.

>>59005394
>>59005556
>>59005641
>>59005694
>>59005842

Shoulder bags are the ultimate redpill and above memes.

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>>59005833
yay!

>>59005276
>Was it more capable than we give it credit for?
It was good for normies and functionally, to the user, worked identically to a classic themed modern Windows 10. It was much easier on the hardware though, you could run it on a 486 with 8MB of RAM along with your programs.

I preferred Windows 3.11 though, you could install some DLLs and run many Windows 95 programs.

I also used BeOS back in the day, that was a fine OS.

>>59006249
What was it like being autistic before it was cool? srs.

So I bought a used Thinkpad with a 44Wh battery and did a battery report and now it's only 41Wh.

How bad is that?

>>59006249
>BeOS
what was that shit even useful for?

>>59006483
for a used battery this is pretty good. mine had 20% of capacity left when I bought it. consider yourself lucky.

>>59006483
You should cycle it only once, let it rest, and then use it for a while charging it when it's no more than half empty. You might be able to regain some capacity.

>>59006483
yeah that's pretty damn good. assuming a fairly old thinkpad, the previous owner probably bought a new battery recently and only used it for a few months.

>>59006645
Idiot here. What exactly do you mean by cycle it? Recharge it to 100% and then use it to 0% with no AC? And then what?

>>59006757
Yep. Discharge it completely, recharge it and then use it until it's half empty.

>>59006842
>recharge it and then use it until it's half empty.

So charge it back to 100% and then use without AC till 50%?

>>59006864
That's right. You could also set the charging threshold to 60% and keep it plugged in.

>>59006864
>>59006947
http://www.lenardgunda.com/thinkpad-battery-charging-thresholds/
see this

>>58993524
pls respond

Just bought a t520 with the 1080p screen on ebay to replace my t510. Stoked, I just can't deal with the resolution on the 510 anymore.

>>59007045
You had time before you bought it and have had 23h after you posted that to compare prices. Figure it out yourself.

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Quick, /g/, post your oldest Thinkpad before the thread dies. Currently posting from a T23 running Win2k, I have 9001 viruses.

>>59007228
t42

hello /g/, fucked my t420 screen and im broke, so the thing is, can I use a Lenovo Sl400 Thinkpad screen as a spare part?

>>59007228
t60!!!!!
thismailboxkillsfascists at google mail dot com

>>59007228
I once had a T40. That was my oldest Thinkpad. The oldest one I have right now is a T400.

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>>59007228
my new 755cx

no power cable yet though

>>59007268
>755cx
Totally fucking radical. I have a A20m coming soon in absolutely perfect condition.

>>59007170
how does it feel to go from 10:16 to 9:16?

I really wanted to fall for the meme and buy a second hand thinkpad but they're all overpriced as hell

might as well get a new one for these prices

>>59007268
I know they have some value to a collector but I only buy computers I can actually put to good use.

>>59007290
I'm not >>59007170 but I guess if the resolution is that much higher it must be a blessing. Aspect ratio isn't all you know. For example if you go from 1280x800 to 1920x1080 you switched to an inferior aspect ratio but it's still better because it offers more vertical space.