/hpg/ - Headphone General

Anyone know how could i get a jds labs O2+ODAC Rev B with custom engraving or picture. Iv seen these pop up sometimes. Is it possible to customise it on theyr site or you have to do it urself.

Im between this, magni 2+modi 2 stack, and jds labs element.
Headphones will be akg 7xx.

Need some new headphones lads, I don't know if I'm just falling for bait here.

>Budget
Around £100

>Source
Laptop

>Preferred type of headphone
Normal

>Open or closed
Open

>Comfort level
As comfy as possible

>Preferred music
Pretty much exclusively for watching films/tv shows. Pretty much only listen to music via youtube so I don't really care that much.

>Past headphones
Shitty skullcandies and cheap Sony ones

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>>52492928

>>52492928
SoundMagic e80s good for in-ear at their pricepoint?

[spoiler]and is the mic version any good?[/spoiler]

>>52493213
Philips SHP9500

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>TFW

>>52493580
weeb nigger

>>52493484

They're like £100 on Amazon, which is like $140. From what I've read that doesn't seem worth it.

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>>52493611
U mad

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>>52493372
wake up

So is an amp mandatory for the Superlux HD668bs, or just preferred? What would happen if I just plugged them into a phone or computer headphone connector?

>>52493039
i love my element. if you can afford it, theres no relevant reason not to get it

>>52493213
the shp9500 is a decent buy though (not even the first guy that said it). alternatives are the akg k612, but youd almost definitely need an amp. or the hd558, but its $20 over your budget. you decide

>>52493953
And also, what should I be looking at for un-amped headphones at the same general price point if they require one?

>>52492928
>wafiu

u wot m8

also use comic sans you ultranigger

>>52493953
If you dont amp those with tube amps, you might as well use earpods instead

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>>52493841
The HD598 is veiled garbage it doesn't even stand up to the IE80

>no r500

shit b8 m8

>>52493841
>WAHH THE HIGH END AMP SHOWS THE FLAWS IN MY SHITTY HD 598

are sennshills all this delusional?

>>52494012
So what's the best I can get that doesn't require an amp?

>>52494092
this >>52493484

>>52494073
youre not serious right? thats just not how it works. a high output impedance is affecting -any- dynamic headphone, and it means the product is bad if it has a high output impedance, like the r500

>>52493649
>>52493580
good taste senpai
The VN was better

>>52492928
>no previous thread
you have one job OP

Bought a pair of 7506, now what?

>>52493961

Same guy, SHP9500s are £99.80 ($142.23) and the HD558s are £119.99 ($171.00). Are these prices reasonable for the quality they provide bearing in mind shit can be expensive here.

>>52494278
Holy shit, those are both overpriced by like double.

I'm sorry, man.

>>52494278
the hd558 are what you want to aim to get, but the shp9500 are very good if you have to stay below $100. id say k612 also, but they almost certainly need an amp which youd end up spending much more than either of these on.

>>52494278
the philips are better than the sennheisers

>>52494289

That's including tax and stuff, it just seems like everything is massively inflated compared to the US. I wouldn't mind paying that much if it actually was worth the money.

Can someone give me a brief summary of good amps (with a reasonable price), and what they do, and why some of them work better with some headphones than with others?

Are the AKG K267 worth it or should i just wait for DT 770 to go no sale?

>>52494378
>K267

I looked and this shit has somehow managed to get 3.5 stars on Amazon, apparently for terrible build quality, so just get the 770.

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I was listening with my amp at 10 o'clock for like eight hours straight yesterday, but right now music sounds loud to me at 9 o'clock with the same gain.

Hope my hearing isn't getting fucked.

>>52492928
>Wish you were here
>Not meddle/animals
you probably listen to have a cigar unironically

>>52494518
Stop. Now. Seriously, you don't want tinnitus, do you?

>>52494555
I know auditory memory is unreliable, but it sounds exactly as loud to me right now as it did yesterday at 10 o'clock. Is this normal?

I'm going to turn things way down for a while to be safe.

>>52494555
isnt going from 10 to 9 turning it down though? or is this how tinnitus as a symptom works?

>Budget
150€, soft limit

>Location
Europa

>Source
320kbps (premium Spotify)

>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
9/10, I'll do some travelling and long hearing sessions

>Preferred tonal balance
I'm not very well versed on this but I think I like deep bases, and would prefer the middle to high end not to be very crispy

>Preferred music
Drum and bass, hip-hop, instrumental hip-hop, alt-rock, post rock

>Past headphones
Bose QuietComforts, not really mine but used them a lot, really liked their sound and how comfortable they are on the ears, but they seemed to be too lightweight to be comfortable

Sennheisers 439, my current ones, like the bass but I feel like the mid and the treble are a little too high, they're also open headphones and I realized I want closed ones for comfort and sound leaking reasons

>>52494766
XPT100

"Source" actually refers to what you plug headphones into, but I guess it doesn't matter for portable closed cans.

>>52494639
I got very mild tinnitus listening to music for about 3-4 hrs a day. Your ear gets used to whatever volume you listen at and over time, it escalates and causes damage even though it doesn't 'seem' loud. Also, taking breaks is good. Just my 2 cents

>>52494808
Smartphone, desktop computer, tablet, I have a shitty DAC but I don't use it.

Thanks for that recommendation, I'll look into them.

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Anyone tested out HM5 Leather pads on DT770 ? Are they better or originals pads?

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You will never be as autistic as this for your template.

>>52495025
>buying extremely comfortable pads for a headphone with extremely comfortable pads

uhhh

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ATH M50X Rattling memecuck from yesterday here again

The rattling disappeared by itself. yesterday when i stopped listening to music the rattle was still there to the end, and now i just picked em up, did the tap-test and noticed that there is no rattle anymore on the right cup. listened to some niggamusic at 100% volume and no rattle either. FEELS GOOD
BLOW DAT PURPLE NIGGA HIGH LIKE FUCKIN MARTIANS WOAH

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Ello

>>52495049
If you just bought it, I would take advantage of return policy and get a replacement anyway to be safe.

>>52495078
cant be arsed desu lad. they are in perfect condition and all. no scratches no nothing. probably really was just a hair. i mean if something was loose it wouldnt just become tight again over night wouldnt it

>>52495103
>hair
>rattling
send it back or you'll regret it 100% guaranteed

>>52495153
>le double memearrow meme
you dont even know what the rattling sounded like lad. when i consider the mechanics of it, it's very likely that it was just a hair or something.

>>52495179
how the fuck would a hair rattle you dumb fuck

By using some Nwavguy's formulas along with some other formulas I got on headfi, I calculated that the volume coming out of my K702 when the knob of the Fiio E10K is at level 3 on low gain without bass boost is approximately 77,9 dB, which should be safe listening level. Now I know that this value isn't probably very accurate, because it can vary according to the tracks and other factors, but can anyone here confirm that the Fiio E10K voltage output is around 1.65 V? On Headroom they say that it's 7.39 Vp-p, but honestly I find it too high...

>>52495214
by tapping against the membrane fast. it is hard to describe the noise with words, rattling might be misleading.

>>52494766
K550

>>52495039

i never bought it.. i just own it but im not home atm thats why im asking other what they think about it. Using them or not, i dont lose money

>>52492928
Op are those BOSE earphones any good? Um thinking of picking 'em up.

>>52495406
>bose
>good
lol no

>>52495449
Shut your mouth you skank ass whore

>Budget
50 to 100€
>Location
Italy
>Source
Mixer / audio card
>Preferred type of headphone
ful sized, but whatever
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
on for many hours, so like >6/10
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>Past headphones
akg k77

to be used for live recording

Man, it sucks dick to have to grab a pair of HD 419 after them HI2050

They kinda hurt a little. Only good thing about these is the niggerbass.

>>52495477
Takstar Pro 80

>Budget
100$ - 150$
>Location
Australia
>Source
Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Doesn't have to be super comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>Past headphones
Sennheiser 202

Just for casual listening

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>>52495529

>Budget
$200-300
>Location
USA
>Source
320kbps Spotify
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed, but am "open" to open
>Comfort level
Around 7/10
>Preferred tonal balance
I appreciate really good instrument separation as my first priority, and my next priority is warmth, with a healthy amount, but well blended bass. Crisp, but not overwhelming treble.
>Past headphones
Denon AH-D5000

The Denon's were nearly perfect for my preferred tonal balance, but I sold them a while back when money was tight and now I can't find them fucking anywhere

>>52495621
K550 or K553 pro if you can get your hands on one
>>52495648
K7XX
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/akg-k7xx-massdrop-first-edition-headphones

>>52495648
If you're not in a rush and can stretch your budget, you could wait for the Fostex TH-X00 to go on Massdrop for $400 sometime in February.

Since Fostex was basically the company behind the good Denon headphones.

>>52495648
k7xx

>>52495621
mdr7506

>>52495477
mdr7506

Any possible way of using bigger pads on slightly smaller headphones?

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R8

>>52493563
>akg fags have no spine

>>52495688

Man, that's a killer price. I might go for it if there is a cheaper amp I can find to power these

>>52496008
the e10k is more than enough

>>52493563
>skullbumps don't touch skull
????

>>52495760
mdr7506 looks perfect, thanks bud!

>>52495896
masterrace/10

>>52494176
Ty, I agree senpai.
But I like the animes art style better.

>>52496443
changed it up eh?

gimme recs


>Budget
20-50 usd
>Location
murica
>Source
tascam us-100 connected to computer
>Preferred type of headphone
full
>Open or closed
doesn't matter
>Comfort level
turbo comfy.
>Past headphones
http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Fidelity-Noise-Cancelling-Flat-Fold-Headphones/dp/B009QFG5X6/
they were too tight on my head, noise cancelling is a gimmick

>>52496476
Yeah, it's too boring to repost same thing.

>>52496501
superlux hd681

>>52496525
not trying to hate on the dt770, theyre a great headphone, but as a fellow aikatsu lover, your next should be a neutral headphone with nice flat mids - lower treble to make that awesome va work really shine.

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I never see anyone mention Shure SRH940s here. Why is that? Other than being plastic fantastic their sound and comfort seems top notch.

>>52496665
God damn they look ugly. Jesus Christ

>>52496566
Yeah, I'd want open ones too. But I won't be upgrading any time soon unless I'll break my IEMs.

>>52496694
yeah i hear ya. have any open ones in mind? hopefully the constant shitposting here has given you an idea

>>52496685
That they do but a closed headphone with a response like that is extremely rare.

>>52496665
I think it's because they're expensive closed headphones with not much bass, which is a very small niche.

That price range competes with Oppo PM-3 as well.

>>52496665
The response is peakier in real life.

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What's the difference between the Amperior and the HD25?

>>52496739
PM-3 is pretty dark.

>>52496774
Yeah I'd like to see a raw response. Tonality seems very neutral.

>>52496791
the raw response looks really bright on IF
i think id prefer some msr7's which are already considered bright subjectively, but measure less bright the the srh940.

>>52493479
I own them and they are my favorite IEM I have ever owned. I don't have the version with the inline mic so I can't comment on it.

Is it worth putting Alpha Pads or HM5 velour pads on my SRH840s or is my money better saved for an open pair of headphones?

>>52493484
I got a pair of these a few weeks ago and I can't recommend them enough. Perfect for people with big heads like me

>>52497018
why did you buy closed if you didnt need closed?

>>52497047
I bought them 4 years ago.

>>52497098
oh okay
well, if youre one of us and you want dat sound quality, get open ones

>>52496719
Nope, haven't done any research or thought about it because there is no need yet. I don't want to become someone like >>52494014 with racks of phones laying around.

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Hello everyone!

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>>52493563
You can see how pleased he is with his master race k702

>>52495222
>I calculated
How and what way?

>1.65 V..7.39 peak-peak
Why would you think that?

>>52497146
haha i see. probably a good idea. but i am a bit surprised you dont at least a current thing you -think- youd be interested in, at least

>>52497346
thanks for using my site anon, I'm gonna make it so you can add you're own background soon

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Whats wrong with the old template?

>>52497415
Well, I did hear k701/2 or dt 880 mentioned here. That's probably where I'd start to look. Semi-open sounds like a meme though.

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>>52496466
>>52497517
So how are your X2's treating you? Did you get one with glued earpads? Any issues?

>>52497605
Mine seems to be glued. I haven't caught all the details around this supposed scandal of manufacturer change. Construction is great, sound is brilliant, really comfy, etc.

Think I read somewhere that the glues ones have worse sound quality. Is there any truth in this?

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>>52495901

>tfw fidelios

>>52497605
I don't think mine has glued earpads. It has some weird stain while I removed it, but I doubt it was glued as I can remove it effortlessly. Its really comfy though, too bad X2 is too big while wearing it to the sleep.

Look, a bunch of measurements on KZ in-ears.

http://www.seeko.co.kr/zboard4/zboard.php?id=cool_review&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&sn=off&ss=on&sc=off&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=486

-cheap
-bassy

As usual, pick both.

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>>52498024
Next level channel matching here. The others look from good to fantastic in this regard. But yeah that response is just disgustingly bassy. At least they are cheap.

>>52498154
what the fuck is that bass
no really how

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>>52498154
It's really cheap, so we can forgive a busted pair or something that slipped through QC.
A little weary of seeing super bassy IEMs being the only thing to get on the cheap, most of them have +20dB to the lows.

>>52498206
The usual cheap in-ear bass.

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>>52498254
Kind of skeptical about the level of QC even possible on these other than a visual check.

http://ko.goldenears.net/board/index.php?mid=GR_Earphones&page=2&document_srl=5803857

For wireless in-ears, these look pretty nice.

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>>52498341
And these wireless in-ears must sounds like fucking ass. MSRP is 229,95 dollars, seems to go cheaper around the web tho.

http://ko.goldenears.net/board/index.php?mid=GR_Earphones&document_srl=5876604

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>>52496787
impedance
frequency response
cable
cup material
price
superiority

>>52498341
>Kind of skeptical about the level of QC even possible on these other than a visual check.
It is actually really easy to do. Audiologists test hearing aids all the time with a cheap coupler called a 2cc coupler. You can make one yourself with a small mic and some tubing, although 2cc is not an accurate tool.

>For wireless in-ears, these look pretty nice.
Goldenears has a bass boosted target for in-ears. Jaybird is bassier than that target, and LG HBS-900 fits it more closely.

>And these wireless in-ears must sounds like fucking ass.
Not the first time Beats would have used DSP to fuck the sound out in ways that are impossible to do by mechanical means alone. They did it with the original Studio Beats as well.

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I received my upgrade balance cable today.

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What's Accudio™ and how can I steal their equalizer settings to use with EqualizerAPO?

>>52498805
what up you meme loving fuck

>>52498914
>What's Accudio™
PEQ suite with option for automatic adjustments based on Goldenears measurements.
>how can I steal their equalizer settings to use with EqualizerAPO?
Go to Goldenears Korea (because the English version isn't updated anymore) and flip over the curves with EQAPO.

Goldenears is retarded, so that can get in the way.

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>>52498805
>>52498964
how much did you pay for that damn cable?

also congratulations, your headphones now weigh 600 grams with the cable attached.

>>52498805
>autism cables

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ALL I DO IS FLEX I DON'T NEED A REASON

>>52497758
Not sure. I got the ones manufactured by WOOX Innovations, as opposed to Gibson Innovations and they sound great; open clear sound with just enough bass to sound neutral and close to the Harman response curve.

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>Realised that I have a dedicated sound card
>Plug in headphones to the sound card
>Immediately literally everything sounds better

>>52500093
Oh and I forgot to mention that I got them last year shortly after Christmas.

>>52500170
what phones?

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>that feel when K7xx master race

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>>52500543
>that feel when X2 master race

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>>52500417
I have no idea but they're pretty good

Who QuietComfort here?

> Comfy
> ANC to block out the mumbles of plebs who can't afford them
> Stylist
> "Oh shit are they Bose? You must be a successful capitalist?"

>>52500686
>>52500417
Apparently they're these: http://av.jvc.com/product.jsp?modelId=MODL029436&pathId=210&page=1

>>52492928
Are there any good earcups made out of leather for the dt770s?

>>52498024
Just got the ATE and the ZS1. Not really impressed with either of them. They are very bassy and have little to no highs. The ATE sounded like they were coming from far away and lost some sound as result. The ZS1 have heavy bass but barely any high making them nigger tier. I would stick to other brands and not cheapout on IEMs.

>>52495474
This is the reply I would expect from someone who buys Bose products.

>>52495474
He's right. I liked my pair of the them but they have a serious defect. The cord deteriorates after a while. This is a known problem and they have not fixed it. So if you buy it you can only use it for a year or two before it just breaks. Also they are very expensive for what they are.

I have already a pair a audioengine a5+ for a couple years. Would it be worth "upgrading" to the JBL LSR305s - is the difference noticeable? My current setup is very simple: o2+odac analog output > a5+

I don't know what I would need in addition to what I have now to get an LSR305 setup working proper. I would try to sell the a5+, so that money would be available to buy additional components. I also have an old Yamaha CA410 I could use.

>>52494555
i've had MAD tinnitus ever since i was like 8. im 22 now. i've just drained it out. i only ever hear it crazy when im in the bathroom taking a shit

>>52500170
>don't have a sound card and use the port from the motherboard
>can literally hear my computer working thru my headphones, not sure if it is my processor or my hard drive I am hearing.

>>52501580
Oh shit. Do you still listen to music a lot? I guess I'm a pussy about mine, it's really quite mild.

>>52494518
>>52494555
I listen to music on average 8 hours day for the past 18 years.

Safe listening level is the key.

>>52501698
i listen to at least one album every day.

I want to upgrade my Sennheiser HD518's to something better after 3 years of use, what would be the bees knees at around £200

>>52501880
want bass?

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this took me too long to make

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Recommend me some good sounding earphones in the style of pic. They need to let some outside noise in.

>>52497517

how do you like your x2's? I've been thinking about getting some but they are wayyy over my set-out $75-100 budget. But they seem so nice...

Just received the HE-400i and it's basically a worse LCD-2. The 400i does have slightly more treble, though it's a worse quality treble, and it has way more bite. Never realized how polite the LCD-2 sounded before.

It's not a bad headphone by any means but I guess I'll sell it somewhere for $300 and get my money back.

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First post of the year.

>>52502549
wow lcd-2 sounds better than 400i, no way bro. why did you buy one again?

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http://eu.akg.com/akg-products-eu/akg/all-headphones/beanies.html

>>52497605
I don't think mine has glued earpads. It has some weird stain while I removed it, but I doubt it was glued as I can remove it effortlessly. Its really comfy though, too bad X2 is too big to sleep with.
>>52502458
I didn't like it so much because my dorm is loud one so it ruins the sounds. But build quality, comfyness, and sounds itself its great if you into its soundsignature.

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>>52503469
>Master race

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>>52503469
akg weeaboos should be gassed desu familiar

>>52503533
>>52503611
Senshills ignoring their pet company's gaymening line.

>>52503649
sennheiser is equally as shitty as akg.

Ok, I've heard that the K7xx are the best at their price range for instrument separation and accuracy, but how are the lows? Anyone have any experience with this headphone?

I'm debating between the K7xx, HD600/650, HE-400i, and X2, specifically the latter two. It just sucks because I can't sample these headphones before I purchase

>Budget
$150

>Location
NYC

>Source
Laptop, Game systems, Galaxy Note 4

>Preferred type of headphone
Earphones, though headphones intrigue me

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
Earbud-level or soft-cushion.

>Preferred tonal balance
Balanced, good neutrals. Enough for rambunctious highs for games.

>Preferred music
Heavy rock, classical and Jazz

>Past headphones
Cheap Sony headphones, Cheap Sony earbuds, iPhone 5 earbuds

NOT a troll post: Anyone know if there's any earbuds better than iPhone 5 earbud? It's basically the best sounding earbuds I ever used. I'm a total audiophile virgin, so I wouldn't know the details why. Are there earbuds/headphones even better than iPhone 5 buds?

>>52503693
K702 isn't in your list.

Depends more on what you want and application.

>>52503469
this is just sooo kawaii senpai

>>52503714
I got my dt 770s for $160, but the price is higher now. I got the 250 ohm version and my Galaxy s5 can power them.

>>52503732
Because K702 is garbage and K7XX > K702

>>52503469
>http://eu.akg.com/akg-products-eu/akg/all-headphones/beanies.html

Is it wrong if I think this looks good, actually? At least for those cold days.

>>52503754

Some stores have them at $150ish. What makes a headphone better than earbuds? Are their sounds fuller/better? I think I used one in a kiosk and it sounded great. But again, I'm no audiophile. But I do want audiophile level sound now. Especially with the rush of movies and games coming out next few months.

>>52503758
Well you seem to have shit taste so pick w/e then.

>>52503773
I'd rather have a separate pair of headphones that I can fit any variety of hats over/under.

>>52503754
Is it weird to listen to those things while playing 3DS or Vita? I wonder if they can even power it.

>>52503469
The fuck is this shit?
>Can't wash it
>Obnoxious branding
>Non-detachable cable

I guess the skater kids will buy it. Probably multiple times because they destroyed it in the wash.

>>52503800
lol fuck off akg weeaboo shill

>>52503844
The amp on the 3DS is fucking SHIT. Don't expect it to power anything better than Apple Earbuds
The Vita is a little better but I've only tried it with a pair of HD202. I haven't touched that thing in over a year because nogames

Looking for earbuds that sound the same or better then the earpods, thats the only earbuds i have used to hear music my entire life.

I think the most i would like to pay for them is
$30-40

Any recommendations?

>>52503858
Try reddit perhaps.

>>52503884
The earpods.

>>52503929
good idea, maybe they'll give a fuck about your k702 there. off you go now.

>>52503930
Nothing in the same price range that is better?

>>52503938
/r/headphones is basically LOOK AT MAH 1K FLAGSHIP BOW TO ME PLEBS XD
I hope you have the money to buy the shit they suggest.

>>52503938
Damn you really are that ignorant and normi?

K7xx may as well be a reddit headphone. You haven't tried any of these headphones but are parroting information. Classic shitter.

>>52503974
you sure know a lot about reddit don't you

>>52503975
>akg weeaboo shitposting shill
>knowing anything about headphones
no

>>52503732

K702 isn't on my list because I'm a pleb who values bass and really good, palpable low-range, not tonal neutrality. I'm not looking to mix tracks.

Honestly, I've only had closed headphones and I'm moving to my own place without roommates here pretty soon, so I want to experience the vast soundstage open headphones offer. And I've heard the soundstage on the K7xx is superb. I want to find the best open headphones with great instrument separation and deep bass I can in the $150-400 range.

>>52504017
>nobass = neutral
please stop perpetuating this severe misinformation. having a built in cutoff filter at 100hz doesn't make a headphone neutral

>>52503995
>>52504039
The Senshill is here!
>>52504017
I'd give the K702s a look. Possibly the X2s also. I haven't tried the latter though.

HD600 are pretty nice as well and may be what you're looking for.

>>52504073
>claims sennshill
>recommends HD600
your futile attempt as disguising your akg shilling as the unbiased source is really transparent, unlike your heavily colored k702.

>>52503884

Soundmagic E10 and Symphonized NRG are fantastic options at that price range. The earpods are decent, though. Actually, Apple has been making some of the most sonically accurate cheap-ass earphones since their first earbuds shipped with like first-gen iPhones and iPods. The treble and mid were superb for "free" headphones

>>52504096
I like good headphones Senshill. HD600 happen to be pretty good. I prefer my K702 though.

dt 770 80ohms vs 250ohms

Does these ohms matter at all?

>>52504107
stop posting, akg shill.

>>52504113
80ohm are more versatile.

>>52504113
higher ohms is better if you have an amp

>>52504120
>>52504107

>try to ask a question
>everyone who answers is accused of being a shill

Thanks guys, I guess I'll look else where

>>52504146
what the fuck did you expect from a thread riddled with shitposters like >>52494014

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>>52504146
>/hpg/

whats a good pair of ear buds for under $20?

>>52504146
Pretty much. This is one of the shittiest (If not THE shittiest) generals on this board.

>>52504310
that would be the desktop threads.

What's the best sub 100 Euro amp for DT880s or a K702?

>>52504342
Oh yeah, forgot about those...
Congrats on being #2 /hpg/!

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yeah i have to agree. were bad but at least the arguing is about some of the better headphones in existence, even if a consensus cant be reached about which one is the best.

the desktop threads are just on a different plane of existence type of shitty. they dont do anything at all

>>52504876
>they dont do anything at all
Except circlejerk over their 5-days-of-rosetta-stone-tier Japanese knowledge.

>>52504436
e10k

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Looking for some good headphones to wear in bed. I could fill the regular advice form but really, I don't give a shit as long as they're comfy to wear in bed
Ideally they should be
>Small
> Extremely comfortable
> Well built so even if I turn on my side they don't break and stay in place
Anything goes really. Open, closed, earbuds, IEMs, whatever as long as they're comfy.

>Budget
100-120 burgers

>Location
freedomia

>Source
guitar amp

>Preferred type of headphone
don't care

>Comfort level
don't care

>Preferred tonal balance
neutral

>>52505110
i take it you need isolation so you can actually hear what the guitar sounds like on the track and not have the actual guitar come through, so, mdr-7506

>>52504965
Well, that's what I ordered just before asking. Thanks.

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>>52504876
Shitposting is what ruins these threads. Past that there are some knowledgeable people here who are genuinely interested in audio. The few product circlejerkers are the worst part and most of the time there's nothing to discuss so the thread just fills with templates and shitposts.

is the AKG K550 ok for my first pair of "good" headphones
like do they need an amp or dac or something or can i just plug them into my pc and have them work

>>52505255
I own a pair. Work well with anything, but I noticed a huge difference when using them on my moto g to my iPod Touch 6
The iPod Touch drives them up to louder volumes and sound better at higher volumes, so you should consider investing on a dedicated player or upgrade to a phone with a good DAC. It will be a one time investment and will work with any consumer grade headphones you decide to get in the future. A portable amp is fine too if you want.
I heard Samsung, Apple and HTC (not sure about this last one) have pretty good built in DACs
But overall the 550's are great for a first pair of headphones. They also work great with videogames and movies because of the spacious sound they create.

>>52504176
This. I'm waiting on those guys to just get a fucking trip already.

>>52503693
>>52504017
Both K7XX, HD600 and 400i are fairly neutral headphones, X2 is V-shaped and it has less tight and less extended bass than the others. 400i has the most neutral bass among the headphones you mentioned, then it's maybe what you're looking for. You should also consider HD650 (bassier version of HD600), as well as the DT880 250 or 600 ohm (neutral but with a very good bass) and K612 (slight extra bass over the K7XX and it's generally cheaper, but its cable isn't detachable). Both K7XX and HD600 suffer of sub-bass roll-off, but it's still not as bad as X2 sub-bass roll-off.
As for the comparison between K7XX and K702, they're basically the same headphones but the K7XX has a little bass boost. However I find the bass in my K702 definitely punchy and enjoyable for every music genre I listen to, besides being really tight and detailed.
> instruments separation
This largely depends on the sound quality of the tracks you're listening to (obviously you can't expect the same instruments' separation from a mono recording of Bo Diddley and a stereo recording of Donald Fagen), but it's also due to the neutrality of the headphone (generally more neutral = better instruments separation). If you like more bass on your headphone it's ok, but be sure that it's tight, otherwise it's going to overshadow the mids and you're going to miss a lot of details (this is how the X2 bass sounded to me, which is the reason why I returned them back and I got a K702).

>>52505664

>If you like more bass on your headphone it's ok, but be sure that it's tight, otherwise it's going to overshadow the mids and you're going to miss a lot of details (this is how the X2 bass sounded to me, which is the reason why I returned them back and I got a K702).

That is my ultimate goal. Tight, but healthy bass. I'm probably going to order the K7xx and see where it goes.

Props on the Fagen reference. Steely Dan songs are the tracks I usually fire up when first testing out my headphones/speakers. Namely "Babylon Sisters", among others. God damn, I love Fagen tracks

>>52505740

Edit: Or K702 Annie, whichever I can find a better price on

>>52505462
That shitposter has a trip, just doesn't use it.

>>52505751
>>52505740
K702 Annie are made in Austria, but from what I know they're much more difficult to find and they're more expensive than the K7XX. If you can find them for the same price, good for you.
> Donald Fagen, Steely Dan
I also play their songs whenever I want to test new headphones/speakers. They pretty much defined the refined melodic jazz rock and their works still stand as the primary examples of HQ recordings in my mind.

are k702 made in china? WTF

>>52505740
>>52505751
You may be disappointed with AKG stuff if your goal is bass. I love my K702 but it's not basshead stuff. Maybe I'm reading too much into what you want though.

>>52505891
Like most everything that's under $500. Even the stuff over $500 is mostly just assembled outside of China. Stuff that's actually made not in China is the very small minority.

Pretty much only Grado and some other very high end headphones actually assemble and have their parts made outside of China.

>>52505891
They've been produced in China for some time. I once read the post of one guy on headfi who claimed that the austrian K702 sounded different from the chinese K702 to him because he said that the chinese K702 didn't have angled earpads. I don't know, there shouldn't be a sound difference between the two models. The chinese K702 doesn't have the bumps under the headband, then they're generally considered more comfortable.
Most tech products are made in China now and China doesn't stand as poor quality production anymore.

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Daily reminder that everyone who doesn't agree with you is a shill.

Everyone who uses different hardware than you is a shill.

Everyone who likes different music than you is a shill.

Everyone is a shill except YOU.

>>52505891
Yeah for a while they have. Some K712 are made in Slovakia iirc and the K702s used to be made in Austria.

I am looking for some qauilyity

>Budget
Around 80 €

>Source
Phone spotify 320kbs

>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear

>Open or closed
Closed no sound leak

>Comfort level
Need to sit on my head for around 2 hours

>Preferred music
I listen to spotify the higest bitrate 320kbs
Genres mostly hip hop rock and electro

Past headphones
Apple earbuds

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> mfw i just realised you're all disgusting hipster faggots who listen to black gangsta rap and have waifus "ironically"

>>52494226
17 hours later...
>>52477735

>>52497394
http://www.head-fi.org/t/586490/approximating-headphone-volume-output-db

1.65 V is the maximum output voltage for 32ohm headphones according to Nwavguy, but I can't understand what 7.39 Vp-p means.

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I just bought these, hopefully they're good.
Going from Sennheiser 202's to the sony MDR 7506.

>>52506523
Excellent headphones for their price. You'll hardly find something better.

>>52506535
Fantastic

>>52506618
Well, the bass are little lacking compared to HD-202. So don't get your hopes too high.

Considering 400€/$ as the starting point of diminishing return, what are the best open and the best closed headphones below this line?

What's the best player to play music ?

>>52506721
don't know many good high price closed
There's an audio technica one people say is good, I think the W1000 and the AKG 550/553

still depends on your preferred tonal balance

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>>52492928
>Budget
200 New Zealand dollarydoos

>Source
Desktop computer

>Preferred type
The big spacious ones that cover your whole ear, I don't care how retarded I look at my PC.

>Comfy level
Comfy as possible

I'm really after good quality sounds, I've only used headsets in the past. Gonna finally get a standalone mic

>>52507015
What Should I get?

>>52507015
open or closed

what music
what tonal balance (do you like bass?)

Are the KAM HP-1 good heapdhones for less than 100$/€? They're recommended on Headfi Buying Guide, and yet I haven't heard many people talk about them. Also it looks like they are really hard to find in Europe.

>>52507048
Open headphones

>Music
Trance, HZ432, Classical, industrial rock. All of Command and Conquer the first decade OST.

I don't know what you mean by bass but a reasonable amount would be nice

>>52506846
W1000 is trash.

>>52507093
fuck your currency is dick
at that pricepoint, I think only opens you could get are the HD558 and the Takstar Hi2050

>>52507132
so which is the good audio technica closed one?
I keep forgetting, because it's not that often people ask for high priced closed headphones

>>52507151
Past MSR7 there are none.

>>52505989
Sony mdr v6 or mdr 7506
or
Takstar Pro 80

>>52507151
Okay ill go for 300-350 dollars then, I want a good pair that will last me if I look after them

>>52506658
Why you gotta ruin it senpai

>>52505989
pro 80 would be better than 7506 I think
I feel like you'll want bass and 7506 has little bass

>>52507336
at that pricepoint, I'd have suggested the K7xx, but their massdrop just ended
have a look around for K612 which are similar but don't have a detachable cable

>check price comparison sites
>they're cheapest 450 NZ dollars in your stores
fuck life

maybe check how much delivery is in amazon.com or amazon.co.uk

they're 186NZD no shipping on .co.uk and 228NZD no shipping on .com

>>52507452
Nz fag here. I just ordered the HD558, I looked at some online reviews and it was defs the one I needed. Thanks for your help.

>>52507531
remember to foam mod

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Newfriend here, my dt 770 broke. Starting to get seriously interested in the mdr 7506; apparently it's a bestseller on amazon and I've read that a lot of studio/radio professionals like Howard Stern and such use them.

Does anyone know how they would compare to the dt 770, and the K550 and M50x for example? I'm doing doing work in speech editing and transcription, play computer games minimally, and just listen to music moderately now.

>>52506516
E10 is not E10K.
Why are you caring about the the output with a load that is not your headphone?
7.39 peak-peak means the voltage level. To convert into Vrms like a normal person, divide through by sqrt(8). That gives you about 2.6 Volts RMS.
To get the voltage into your load, you want to make sure that the current output is not an additional limiting factor as well, which it shouldn't be for loads greater than 32 ohms.

Tinyman screwed up his formulas as well, which they comment on in that thread.
>Actual Voltage (volts) = Max Output Voltage (volts) * (volume level fraction)^2*
This assumes a linear potentiometer/volume control, when audio controls are normally built to be logarithmic. In calculating, this means that the volume control is already in decibel form.
>parabolic rate
>When you push up on your volume, you actually don't increase in a linear, straight manner
Again, it's generally logarithmic/exponential, even I though I can think of specific counterexamples. He misunderstands and confuses the concept of exponentials and RMS(square root).

>>52507602
Ok thanks. Is there a way I can calculate the approximate output volume in dB out of my headphones then? I know that a dB meter would be the best thing, but I have no clue as how I could get one (I tried many apps for my phone but they were all screwed).

>>52507580
>dt 770 broke
I usually hear people getting positive feedback from beyer customer service for repairs. Should be free with warranty if not then it's affordable.
>interested in the morning 7506
Get them.
They're worth it, no questions asked.

>>52506789
What operating system? Or are you looking for a device just to play music with?

>>52507716
>morning
Damn this auto corrector

>>52507580
would be a downgrade unless you want neutral sound
dt770 is pretty bass heavy
very large downgrade compared to k550

Reading your post further, I think they'd suit you well as you need neutral sound for professional audio work like music editing and such

>>52507580
K550

>>52507643
You have to know the decibel range of the potentiometer. For sake of an example, say our pot has a 60dB range with 300 degrees of adjustment (7 to 5 o'clock clockwise). Each 30 degree increment, each hour, would then (ideally) be an adjustment of 6 dB to the voltage and then the sound from the headphone.
But, I don't know the range of the E10k. The official website doesn't refer to the specific model of ALPS pot used.

Back to the 701. Assuming spec is correct, 105 dB/SPL @ 1V RMS sensitivity and 2.6 Volt output from the Fiio.
20 log (V1 / V2)
20 log (2.6 Vrms / 1 Vrms)
~8.3
The maximum output level from the Fiio would be around 113 dB SPL.
The way to test the pot is to grab a multimeter, hook it up to the amp, and adjust the pot while playing back a tone to get the range of the pot.

Most sound meters are meant for general noise. There's been a lot of research lately on adjusting meter levels to reflect music loudness better.

>>52508115
Thank you very much for your reply. As I suspected, measuring the volume out of my headphones is a very complicated procedure.
> 113 dB peak out of E10K
I actually already knew about this thanks to Audioboot9000. I assume that the 113 dB is the maximum volume I can reach on my K702 when the knob is turned to max, right? (on the E10K max is around level 8 and half). I usually keep the knob at level 2 and 3....

>>52503795
It is generally easier to have better audio quality in a headphone compared to an earbud because of the size. Also, I find headphones much more comfortable, unless I am lying in bed.

>>52503469
That's even worse than the hoodies with earbuds for strings.

i'm looking to buy new headphones
how do i know if i need a dac?

>>52503758
>liking niggerbass

>>52508895
If you don't have a dedicated audio player or a cellphone made by Samsuns, HTC or Apple you need one.

>>52508930
Maybe after 1000 hours of burn-in, you will finally feel the bass just like those 598 owners.

>>52508997
Your not supposed to "feel" bass you nigger

>>52508895
you'll probably not need one

Do /hpg/ use IEM ?

I will buy XBA A3 / RHA T10 , which is better if I listen to post-rock / grunge / indie most of the time?

Any other better options around this price?

Thank you anon.

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>>52508997
Not him, but K702 bass is definitely punchy and enjoyable even for modern music genres. I don't know about HD598, but I guess that bass sounds good also on them.

>>52508943
that's gay

>>52509032
are you sure

my pc has realtek ALC662 audio but someone on the internet said it "sounds crappy"

>>52509061
>someone on the internet said it "sounds crappy"
btw anon you have cancer :^)

I don't think I've ever heard of anyone buying a standalone dac that didn't have a standalone amp and wasn't planning on also getting one

unless you're spending some big boy bucks on new headphones, I doubt it's worth the money to buy a standalone dac

>>52509023
>never listening to speakers
But you're right, that was a misquote.

Maybe after 1000 hours of burn-in, you will finally hear the bass.

>>52509054
>replying seriously
Come on man.

>>52509096
>I doubt it's worth the money to buy a standalone dac
what about a usb one
don't those exist

>>52509041
bump

there's a 168€/$183 pair of headphones i might get but i don't know if i need a dac with them
i hate spending money

>>52509167
bump.

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>>52508997
>feel the bass

>headphones
>feeling the bass
Yeah no.

>>52509203
No you don't need a discrete DAC if that's what you are asking.

>>52509322
>>52509167
Stop. Found simple graphs of the Sony. It looks insanely bassy. Didn't bother Googling more for that other one.

>>52509061
>but someone on the internet said it "sounds crappy"
That's really convincing. You better avoid a product like that.

>>52509203
>not mentioning what the headphones are

I just got my Massdrop O2+ODAC (RevB), but even though I specified 230V it oddly enough came with a US-style adapter (though it does say 240V on it), so I had to get a separate power adapter for it. However, it doesn't say anywhere on the O2+ODAC what polarity its original power supply is.

Anyone know this, or know where I can find out?

Is there any benefit at all to using high gain on an amp if low gain drives the headphones to acceptable volumes?

I know there's more noise, but for example, would high gain allow for more voltage to be available for peaks or something?

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>>52509587
>>feel the bass

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>>52510426
Well, there was that anon who recently got a SubPac S2.

I guess he really is feeling the bass.

>in ear headphones
>good bass
>$50 and under
>available at Best Buy where I have gift cards

Any choices? Thanks lads.

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>>52506113
bitch i >>52506618

>>52510380
There's no benefit. High gain on same SPL as lower gain is no more or less noisy. Gain settings usually overlap each other a bit so there are regions which you can get with both high and low gain. Gain does not have an effect on SNR. They perform exactly the same on the same level of output. The high gain only allows you to use a higher output voltage for driving low sensitivity headphones louder.

>>52510928
All right, thanks.

>>52510928
>>52510380
There is no reason to go high gain if your signal does not require it. Gain is just the voltage input multiplier.

>Gain does not have an effect on SNR
It would affect noise voltage level, which yields different SNR at equivalent listening level.
As another practical issue, analog pots kinda suck, a reason to get gain settings tailored to the listening.

>>52510547
Could just order Piston 3s off of GearBest for $15 and have them delivered.

>>52511406
enjoy your fakes

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>>52492928
For the price, how do Monoprice 108323 compare to Sennheiser HD 202 II?
I want something with good, deep bass but also clarity.

>>52511406
What are the chances of gettin fakes?

I keep seeing complaints on Amazon, and don't know if gearbeast can do better.

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>poorfags who cant afford speakers will never feel the bass with their little toy headphones

>>52511449
By all accounts, GearBest is legit. Unless you know something I don't.

>>52498024
>>52498154
Just got my ED9's today. I'm very happy with how they sound.

>>52511493
>finally decide to )get some intro headphones (mdr v6)
>Finally hear chunky ass bass in this song at around 37 sec
I can never go back, thank you hpg
https://youtu.be/yoKGNF8tH-g?t=37

>>52511493
> speakers
You really don't like hearing sounds below 50hz, don't you?

>b-but my subwoofer!!
Enjoy your bloated and rude bass

>>52511772
>v6
>bass
uhh

>>52511772
whoops, misread speakers as headphones

>>52511493
>having to shake your entire house to listen to even a little bass

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I'm looking for a set of active desktop speakers.
What would be my best option on a € 500 budget?

>>52512267
>animu & vidya ost
oh, brilliant

>>52511772
is he supposed to be talking through just the left channel the whole fucking time? that shit annoys me
inb4 crossfeed

>>52499141
Whats up with that psx?

>>52511470
Look into Encore Rockstars OE. New headphones, closed, budget as fuck and apparently really good for the price. Compare really well to all of the superlux, Monoprice and other budget shit. Also detachable cable 3.5 jack on both sides.

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>watching straight outta compton
>this shit
god fucking damned

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so should i buy a ATH-M50x for $164 dlls or the ATH-M40x for $121 dlls?, also should i go with black or dark green?

>>52512772
you should buy neither. do you even need closed?

>>52512786
closed?
this is my first good headphones and the ATH-MX0x seem like the no brainer

>>52512818
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM

>>52512818
no, they are shit shilled by morons that dont know anything about headphones

>>52512542
It has gangrenous disease called abscessus audiophilius.

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>>52512834

>Budget
$100-$160 dlls

>Source
Phone 320kbs, FLAC

>Preferred type of headphone
don't care

>Open or closed
Closed seem ok but don't care

>Comfort level
comfy

>Preferred music
techno, hip hop, ambient,

Past headphones
samsung earbuds, piston 2

>>52512818
I find the m40 to be outclassed by the 7506 and the m50 to be outclassed by the dt770s

>>52512975
>dlls
wot

>>52512975
>google it
>dlls apparently short for dollars
>100 dollars to 160 dollars dollars

if you like bass (which I assume you do, looking at your music), have a look at dt770
if not especially, consider k612, they're open, sound will leak out & in, but they're good

>>52512975
DT770 80 ohm.

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tfw my skin is so greasy that i cant get the grease off these pads. this is the third time im throwing them into a detergent. this time it's a pretty strong mix of detergent and hot water.

>>52492928
Wut earbud tips do you guys use ? Looking for recommendations on this, never thought about getting any but now...

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>>52512981
Yes, but also the DT770 has been outclassed.

New thread:

>>52513295
>>52513295
>>52513295

>>52513283
aren't those significantly more expensive?
aren't those more neutral instead of bassy?

>>52513305
>aren't those significantly more expensive?
Depends on where you live.
>aren't those more neutral instead of bassy?
More neutral, still bassy.

What you get is a nicer looks and really uneven seal as well as worse but still good comfort. Sound signature of the K550 would make me prefer it over the DT770 but in other ways I'd get the DT770 over it.

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>>52513305
>aren't those significantly more expensive?
>aren't those more neutral instead of bassy?
Yes, they are more neutral, thus they're inherently better. They're definitely worth the extra money. If you're poor and you can't afford the K550, you can still get the best closed headphone for even less money than the Sony.

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>>52513400
>look up graph for literally what
>see this

When you shill for AKG, please stick only to the decent ones thanks.

>>52513449
>t. sennshill

>>52513460
>recommends a shitty headphone just because it's AKG
>gets called out

And I'm the shill? Bet you're the same guy who recommends K240 over the 7506.

>>52513483
>Bet you're the same guy who recommends K240 over the 7506.
Must be.

>>52513449
Just two questions:
1) is the source of that graph reliable?
2) did the author of the graph remove the foam from the cups?

For someone looking for cheap closed headphones, which provide a good isolation, the K518 are a great choice. Even Tyll called these headphones very good. They're terribly uncomfortable, this is their major downside.

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>>52513573
If I recall, he started calling people sennshill out of nowhere when they said the K240 is more V-shaped than neutral.

What is with the inferiority complex anyway.

>>52513604
Source is DIY Audio Heaven.

That graph is with the foam insert removed. Here is one showing difference between stock and removed.

These look fairly bassy, so to call these better than the Sonys while calling the K550 inherently better for being more neutral in the same post is kind of stupid.

>Budget
Around 100$
>Location
Europe
>Source
Laptop
>Preffered type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort Level
7/10
>Preferred music
Rock, jazz, heavy rock, classical