/hpg/ - Headphone General

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> Making it early just to get your weeaboo picture that will be deleted anyways
The cancer is real

>>52477768
>for example dt770 has significantly more
so glad that i didnt get these niggabassphones

ffs the rattling has gotten worse in the right cup of my m50x
metroboomin want some more nigga ._.

i think I'm going to send them back and buy the same ones again

>>52477806

HD 202.

>>52477825
>ffs the rattling has gotten worse in the right cup of my m50x

Sounds like a hair has gotten on the driver. It's usually an easy fix.

>>52477808
Here's your (you).

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>>52477735
>tfw upgraded from takstars to akg 702's

Feeeeeels good, especially with my midi keyboard, I'm set for life, If I was going to spend more than £130 I might as well keep going and buy a new fucking 5.1 system for well over £300.

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>garupan OP
>tfw Katyusha comes on

this shit doesn't let me sleep lads

some ATH M50xfags please listen this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TOB2McGSVw

and tell me if they hear rattling from 0:12 to 0:24
I stsart hearing it at about 60% volume.

>>52477856
ikr
how exactly do i fix this? Do i have to take apart the whole cup? I already took off the earpad and checked if there's any foreign matter visible but it isn't. i also blew through the holes just to make sure. it still sounds the same.

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Bass lover anons, if you want to feel bass, get a SubPac (headphone subwoofer)!

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>>52477735
Fucking degenerate weaboos

>>52477848
>>52477806

how big are the HD202 cups
the pads also look thin and really uncomfortable

I don't know man, I think everything at that price point is gonna be pretty shitty, I'd still save up for a 7506 if your budget is close

>>52477892
>how exactly do i fix this? Do i have to take apart the whole cup? I already took off the earpad and checked if there's any foreign matter visible but it isn't. i also blew through the holes just to make sure. it still sounds the same.

Can you play it without the earpads and the bare driver visible and determine if the rattle is present?

>>52477911
>owns weeaboo headphones
>calls other weeaboos

>>52477892
fuck off with this meme and kill yourself

>>52477892
>I stsart hearing it at about 60% volume.

>60%
what the fuck is wrong with you, I run at 6-12% volume

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>>52477911
They aren't hurting anyone, let them wank over their cartoons m8

>>52477945
Not everyone uses the same source, retard.

>>52477936
>weaboo headphones
K701 is the weaboo headphone, i dont have a K701

>>52477940
I know it's not the first time i post about this. it's a legitimate problem though. I also hear the rattling when I merely tap my right cup while no music is playing. i don't hear rattling when I tap the left cup. so it's definitely the headphone not the source.

>>52477945
maybe you are using an amp that's louder than mine. I just listen with my PC. Or maybe I just like to listen music louder than you do ._.

>>52477936
>Can you play it without the earpads and the bare driver visible and determine if the rattle is present?
yeah i could try that.

>>52477987
>maybe you are using an amp that's louder than mine.
>>52477969

I use my xonar DGX card

Sennheisser HD 202 or Superlux HD 668B?
Both are at the same price for me. Which one should I choose and why? I would prefer the sound to be as flat as possible (which seems that Superlux is better in this aspect). Or should I go for an alternative to those two instead?

>Budget
100€
>Location
EU
>Source
PC Soundcard
>Preferred type of headphone
full over ear
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
comfort is important, I wear glasses
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral, but they can have some bass
>Preferred music
rock, pop, instrumental
>Past headphones
AKG K550

>>52477735
post moar kurdish swing dancing pamphlets desu

>>52478005
If it's the same price, Superlux no question.

>>52478011
HD558.

>>52478005
SR850. HD202 and HD668 has too much bass to be flat.

SR850 is a re-branded HD681 with velour pads. The price varies a lot but if you can find it around $30 you've gotten a really slick deal.

>>52478005
AKG K240

>>52478011
>>52478030
>past headphones
>K550
if you got a hd 558 it would be a huge downgrade

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>>52477896
>mfw partially deaf in one ear
>other ear has had multiple drum ruptures
at least i can feel the bass

>>52478058
The guy has a 100 euro budget, and doing the foam mod to a HD558 to get the 598's sound is pretty much the default open option for that price range.

>>52477936
>Can you play it without the earpads and the bare driver visible and determine if the rattle is present?
it's still present ;_;

>>52478100
they are still worse by alot to the K550

>>52478058
HD558 is more neutral than K550.

Not sure how that is a downgrade, if anything it's an upgrade.

>>52478100
The foam mod doesn't change much 2bh.

>>52477892
Just busted out my 3-year-old M50 (not X) to test, and no rattle here, sorry.

>>52478011
Whats wrong with the k550?

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>>52478165
lol no
veiled shit isnt neutral

I'm currently using the Sennheiser HD 598s. They're good.

>>52478127
Maybe you'd have to try removing the driver, the cause of the rattling could be at the back.

>>52478206
>this argument again

Regardless of your opinion, from an objective point of view, among headphones, the HD558 and HD598 are very neutral, more neutral than the K550 and K702. You are free to enjoy whatever you like but this is the objective truth.

>>52477735
Erwin is best grill

>>52478239
>Regardless of your opinion...
Don't reply to that faggot. He'll get tired of shilling one day.

>>52478239
do you even own them or do you jerk off to fr charts all day, im telling you as a owner of both that you are spewing bullshit and are wrong, but a doubt it matters to you since im sure sennheiser pays you to shill that veiled garbage here

>>52478175
do you hear any rattle when you tap either of the cups with your finger while wearing them thats not present on the other cup?

>>52478239
>Maybe you'd have to try removing the driver, the cause of the rattling could be at the back.
probably. but before I do that, i rather sent them back and buy them again.
>inb4 they will send me exactly the same ones

>>52478273
>implying your ears are neutral
>implying you dont hear certain frequencies less so one pair sounds more neutral to you

HD558 and HD598 are below entry level garbage for newfags who don't know any better

>>52478273
Just plug the HD598 directly into the FiiO and you'll see that it's better than the K702 in every imaginable way.

>>52478277
No rattle here, and I used the shit out of the M50s for several years. The pleather headband has a lot of flaking.

I think you have to accept you got a dud and replace it.

>>52478305
no im just implying that your a shilling faggot

>>52478333
the R-500 sounds better than that entry level shit
back to reddit now

>>52478035
Too expensive where I live.

>>52478030
Thanks!

>>52478034
Those are at the same price as the 202 and 668B.
What are the differences between 850 and 668 though?

>>52478344
>AKG: the mega shill
>calling anyone else a shill.

I know he is a measurement autist, but come on.

>>52478371
The R500 likely has a high output impedance value on the headphone out. They are excellent for speakers but shitty as a dedicated headphone amplifier.

>>52478381
SR850 has a flatter response, HD668B has more bass. The SR850 is also more comfortable so another reason to get that in my opinion. Both headphones are prone to being a bit bright.

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>>52478371
kek just enable your trip so everyone can filter you.

>>52478344
>>52478391
calm down lads, I'm not even the one you were argueing with. I was only saying out of personal experience that your ears might have different sensitivity to certain frequencies than other people's ears, which is why the "but i compared them myself and X sounds more neutral" argument doesn't hold any water. makes sense eh?

>>52477735
Miho and Yukari are love.
This is all.

>>52478439
It seems that I'm already set and I'm going to buy the SR850.

I really appreciate the help, so thanks a lot to all the helpful people on here!

>>52478443
>>52478439
>le newer is better
lel fuck off back to reddit now

>>52478340
did you listen niggamusic at loud volumes (meaning PC at 100% volume) that have comparable bass to the song i posted though?

>>52478552
No you fucking ignorant retard.

As a speaker amplifier R500 is excellent. Despite many beliefs, older and newer receivers all sound the same.

The problem with most receivers is that they're poor at powering headphones.

>>52478552
>using an amp with a high output impedance, which is objectively bad
>reddit

lmao get out of here

How are you different from those idiots who think tube amps are good because they're not "entry level"?

>>52478592
>older and newer sound the same
no newer ones are all the same as a gaming headset you combine a shitty audio reciver and a shitty video receiver and you get a shitty modern AV receiver, audio quality in receivers went down the drain the moment they tried to tack on shitty av components to them

>>52478667
>no newer ones are all the same as a gaming headset you combine a shitty audio reciver and a shitty video receiver and you get a shitty modern AV receiver, audio quality in receivers went down the drain the moment they tried to tack on shitty av components to them

Hahahahahahaha, you're truly a fucking idiot beyond saving.

>>52478586
Not much niggamusic, but as I said they got heavy use for years. To test the song just now, I plugged it into an O2 amp at high volumes I wouldn't want to listen to for more than ten minutes.

If anything else, the M50 has a reputation for pretty sturdy build quality, so it's likely that either something got into your driver or you just got a lemon that needs replacement.

So the AKG Kxx have bad base? that's a shame. they look nice, there goes my weeb fantasies.

>>52478838
What? The K7xx bass should be good if not really for bassheads.

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>>52478708
again i only make opinions on shit i own and from my experience older > newer

>>52478870
what's that little sennheiser box? are they IEMs or something?

>>52478870
In the end they're merely opinions by a delusional shitposter.

Ignorance is bliss.

>>52478915
says the tard making assumptions on shit he doesn't even own

>>52478907
Sennheiser IE80, severely underrated tbqh, they sound better than the hd598 also, at least the IE80 isnt veiled

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>>52477892
Am I the only one who loves this song?
>blow dat purple nigga high like fucking martians woah

>>52478961
>says the tard making assumptions on shit he doesn't even own
He's posting FACTS not assumptions.

Vintage receivers are a meme, they don't sound inferior to present stuff but they don't sound any better.

Two amplifiers sound the same if the FR, noise, distortion and output impedance are at levels that exceeds the threshold of human hearing.

>>52478864
>K7xx bass
Is K7xx a specific headphone or the range? I thought the former?

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>>52478838
>AKG Kxx
Why would people even buy this piece of shit?

HD518 does the same shit but is better.

>>52478999
>everything i dont like is le meme

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>>52477735

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Pick 3 for the rest of your life.

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>>52479027

>>52479027
>better
>that fuckhueg dip in the treble
dude...

>>52479049
also wear the fuck do i i get pics of my wafiu with headphones

>>52479062
>picture for ants

Anyway, my picks are:

Etymotic Research ER-4S
AKG K1000
STAX SR-404

>>52479062
All AKG grills. rip in peace social life.

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If I like to listen to Electronic, Rock, and Hip Hop music

would DT-990s be a good choice?

Heres an example of what I like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xZY8VJHqU4

>>52479106
sorry there's none

>>52479005
K7xx is a specific headphone, a rebranding of the K702 Anniversary / K712 that boosted the bass a little over the regular versions. It's on Massdrop right now.

People used to refer to the AKG K7 series (K701, K702) as K7xx before the actual K7xx came out, so there's the confusion. The K701/702/Q701 have very tight bass with good extension, but they should probably not be your first choice if you're the type that likes a lot of body and impact in your bass.

>>52479062
The AKG girls are the bests, mostly because of glorious glasses

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>>52479062

>>52479146
I recently bought a pair of 702's and the bass is fine, I even have the option to turn bass boost on my fiio e10k but I don't 95% of the time, and that's whilst listening to rap music.

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Can't decide between:

Philips Fidelio S2
HifiMan RE-400 Waterline
Sennheiser Momentum
RHA MA750

I mainly listen to hip-hop, electronic and rock music.

Pls help.

>>52479261
Yeah, as I said the bass on the K7s is fine, but obviously someone looking for bass impact should consider other headphones first.

>>52479146
the portapros were good for bass for me. will k7xx be more or less?

Im going diving for hidden gem earbuds in Akihabara in a few hours, any good buds to look out for? Not looking to spend more than $30 (3000 JPY) but they'll be used so price range could go up to $50. Will be using with music like shoegaze and punk.

>>52479357
If I recall, the Portapros are quite bassy.

The extension and detail on the K7xx bass would likely be better, but the K7xx although a big upgrade in the overall sound wouldn't be bassier.

>>52477808
>posting drake thinking its any more appropriate than weebshit

If I could get get a a pair of Sentey earbuds for 15 dollars should I get them?

>>52478079
Did you turn the volume to 11?

do you think we'll ever get IEMs with 45mm drivers?

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>>52479857
this is a 40mm fan next to a coin

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Do any of you guys use Maxxaudio's Maxxsense?

>>52480074
just read up on and it sounds like (LOL!!!) they just rebranded normalization

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>>52479857
>you

>>52477735
how do oneplus icons compare to other IEMs in that price range?

Iam deciding between

nuforce ne-700x
adv.sound m4
jvc ha-fxd80
astrotec am-800
visang vs-k1
hisoundaudio crystal
(piston 3)

what do you think?

also, can i make my choice entirely dependent of this site? is this guy legit?
theheadphonelist.com


thanks

>>52480245
ah i forgot, i listen to synthwave, edm and metal, so bass is important

and i want to keep the iems cables under my shirt/sweater while wearing them cable-down, so they need to have good microphonics (if thats not a meme, idk, just read about it)

I've got a chance to get a vintage Yamaha CA410 for $70. Perfect working order. Right now I have an o2+odac (not the new Rev B).

Debating if it's worth buying. I could just use the odac part of the o2+odac by running RCA out from it to the input on the 410, then run my phones through the 6.35 jack on the front and speakers with wire from the back.

I've heard great things about the sound signature from the CA410, and the additional adjustments would be nice; but, the o2+odac is so often considered best / near best in its price range. Input?

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>>52479330
>Yeah, as I said the bass on the K7s is fine, but obviously someone looking for bass impact should consider other headphones first.
It really depends on the ear sensitivity of a person imo. According to most graphs, it doesn't look like the K702 has much bass, but like >>52479261 siad I feel that the bass on my K702 is punchy and has a lot of impact most of the times. What really amazes me every time is how I feel the impact not just from, let's say, the drums, but also from the chords and other instruments. When paired with a good recording, the K702 can make even the most subtle details come to light, even in the bass region.

>>52479857
What? Why?

>>52479366
LG Quadbeat 2/Quadbeat 3 by AKG
Zero Audio Tenore
Ostry KC06
Mee Audio A151

A very small sampling of the IEMs to try and discover, since there is like no barrier to entry in the IEM market.

>>52480245
>compare to other IEMs
The cheap IEM in general is bass heavy, and what makes it not suck is not having sharp peaks and dips besides the canal resonance.
Of course, because these are IEMs, even screwy FR doesn't matter as much with a parametric EQ. Although, the EQ interface may not be as friendly as you like, and battery life is always a concern.

Microphonics is cable noise, vibrations transited along the stiff cable. If you can loop the cable over the ear, it is usually greatly suppressed, hence why there are so many over the ear in-ears.

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>>52478206
>>52478870
Hello mate!

>>52480245
>>52480452
ok, and what do you suggest from these iems?
also, what about that site?

>>52480429
I bought a £10 cable for my new 702's last night, it has metal jacks and a coil spring etc but I bought it because it's 2m long instead of 3, Do you think there would be any loss in audio quality?, I would have thought not.

>>52480245
I prefer my KZ ED9's over my piston 3's, they are much cleaner when you use the non extra bass nozzle. i'm no expert in IEM's but they are the best I have ever tried, worth checking out.

>>52480650
>ok, and what do you suggest from these iems?
I haven't tried out those IEMs. I got sick of the try/buy/sell IEM cycle.

>also, what about that site?
Plenty of /hpg/ posters froth at the mouth at the thought of subjective reviews.This is because most listeners don't know what they are hearing, and then write a review about their ignorance.

As for Joker's reviews? He's certainly better than the rabble at reviewing. Considering that he also has listened to many hundreds more IEMs than he has actually bothered to review, he might have something worth saying.
He has his preference (mild V-shape), and tries to consider things outside of it. Certainly more than what I'm willing to do. You can just ask him directly.


>>52481052
>would be any loss in audio quality
Why would there be?

>>52479290
The answer is always Sennheiser.

>>52480452
I've got both the QuadBeat 3 and the 2nd gen A151. The QuadBeat 3 blows it out of the water. The A151 is muffled yet bright at the same time. I really don't enjoy them, but the ergonomics are some of the best.

>>52481099
I don't get the appeal of Pistons, been disappointed with every release.

>>52481052
Unless it's some trash chink cable with zero shielding I doubt it.

>>52481228
>This is because most listeners don't know what they are hearing, and then write a review about their ignorance.
Not just that but unless blinded or double blinded, listening to audio gear is fundamentally biased. So many other factors than the sound itself affect what we hear and a good listener is not free of this bias.

I don't really trust my own ears much. I have to have a reference pair or two somewhere right next to me to switch to in order to make subjective impressions which hold any water. Even then I'd rather not read or talk about sound subjectively in reviews aside from a very simple overall impression. Subjective reviews are useful for things that are easily evaluated by wearing the headphone like comfort and build quality.

>>52481052
Don't know much about cables to be honest, I think I'll stick with K702's stock cable forever. Both >>52481228 and >>52481386 seem reasonable replies to me.

is 180USD a good price for DT-990?

>>52481231
sennshill

I need an iem for running, decent bass high isolation and durable.

Mainly listen to rap/edm/classical

>>52481231
Well compared to the KZ ED9's I would agree with you, night and day difference when using my midi keyboard, check them out, I got mine from aliexpress for £9.00. the actual heads have a solid metal body and they are solid overall so I would guess fakes aren't common at all.

>>52481231
you can easily take a piston 3 and eq it. They cost half as much as your quadshill.

>>52481542
Please reply ASAP friends

>>52481609
listen to the binaural sounds of the road, then regular music at home

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This thing sounds like muffled ass, fuck all the sennshills i got memed into buying this garbage

>>52481542
>>52481609
if you have Amazon Prime, Sentey has their earbuds for 15 dollars rn

>>52481656
If you're going to buy Sennheiser then you need to look at the HD600 and up.

>>52481656
apply eq

>>52481677
>>52481681
fuck you damage controlling faggots ,im returning and buying a K7XX

>>52481714
I prefer my k702. I'm just saying that anything under the HD600 is meh.

>>52481714
just learn how to use eq please. look up measured charts

>>52481656
don't forget the build quality, which is shit also.

>>52481761
>>52481681
The EQ shiters are fast becoming as bad as the valve crowds.

>>52481761
fuck you and fuck your eq

>>52481465
>unless blinded or double blinded
I don't want to touch the psychology mess that is cognitive bias, crowd mentality, and cross-modality.
I don't like to bring it up as it sounds like an uninteresting thought extinguisher, even if the psychology is an interesting research subject in itself. Yes, it is very much a real phenomenon,something that must be controlled in any scientific experiment, and an aspect of daily life, but I would like to argue that the audio sensation alone does matter in casual sighted listening. Headphone manufacturers might like to prove me wrong.

Single blind, double blind, or triple blind, it doesn't matter if the subject can't discriminate the sensory input as different in the first place.

>>52481795
>>52481818
>le eq is bad maymay

but MUH HARDWARE

>>52481934
>Slide the bars up and down till the sound is good!

Seriously you're as bad as the valve autists. Maybe worse.

>>52481955
>implying

>>52481934
Not any of the guys you're replying to but I haven't used an EQ for nearly a decade, My 702's don't need one and my 770's before that didn't either. Sounds like you bought some meme phones my man.

>>52482080
>My 702's don't need one
702 needs a lot of EQ to fix its shitty colored sound signature.

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>>52482080
>Not any of the guys you're replying to but I haven't used an EQ for nearly a decade,

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>>52482257
Please name the EQ which delivers so much pleasure then.

>>52482363
Mate, just look at your desired headphones, they look comically disgusting, be happy with what you have and forget about them.

>>52482162
The meme master has arrived.

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AM I KUWAII ANON?

>>52482390
Oh i'm very happy with what I have, I just want to know how they sound.
>they look comically disgusting
I don't give a fuck. I'm not wearing them in public.

>>52482702
>I don't give a fuck. I'm not wearing them in public.

Same as me, but they just look...fucking disgusting on every level. each to their own I guess.

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>>52482675
Is that a mini usb connection?

>>52483087
No, it's just a massive edgy USB plug.

>>52483087
I don't think so

>>52478037
We'd be friends, anon :)

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a friend gave me one of these and he said its an improvement over onboard. i'm using them with headphones and it does seem to sound better, definitely notice better positional audio in games. my question is whats the difference between this and a pci soundcard?

>>52483343
All shit.

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>tfw you own the world's best headphones

>>52484112
>post a picture of fragile, veiled pop garbage instead
You confuse me, anon.

>>52484184
>fragile
>veiled
Those aren't K702 or DT880, anon.

Are there any quality bluetooth earbuds? Price isn't an issue.

>>52484463
HBS-900

>>52484481
Seems good. Just ordered a pair to see how they are. Any other suggestions?

>>52484558
No, the HBS-900 is the best sounding and most accurate current gen Bluetooth earphones.

>>52484609
I'm a beginner audiophile, but I don't lurk these threads. How do you know it's the best? Any good sources you have on hand?

>>52477911
does the fiio e10 have an amp built in? And if so, does it work well with 32-56 ohm headphones?

>>52484639
Most 32-56 ohm headphones don't need an amp, you'd be fine running them straight from any device.

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>>52484624
http://ko.goldenears.net/board/4973262

https://www.seeko.co.kr/zboard4/zboard.php?id=cool_review&no=426

It measures quite well in comparison to other products.

>>52484700
Thanks, I'll take a look at these.

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>mfw I push my earphones in more and I hear how bassy they actually are
now I know why that m50x post I made looked so weird

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I have a 250$ Budget what do I get?

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>>52484112
Nope not X2's.

Thoughts on the Sennheiser HD449? Is it a worthy upgrade to the Sennheiser 202? Thanks fellas

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>budget
250-400 EU shekels

>location
EU

>Source
PC sound card and some Fiio variant

>Preferred headphones
Closed

>Comfort Level
Long term usage, must be heaven goose down pillow soft tier

>preferred tonal balance
neutral

>past Headphones
Senn 595, Senn 600, AKG 700, SonyMDR-V6

Just looking for that extra comfy balance.

Unless I already have it in my possession please specify

Thanks /g/

>>52486160
Sony MDR-1A. It isn't neutral though.

>no massdrop Fostex Th-X00 sale

When should I expect another one?

What are good earphones with mic and media buttons?

>>52486791
Are none unless you want to spend $200+ for headphones worth less than half.

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>>52480613
>>52478870
dat master race
>>52484112
>posts a sennheiser
>not a K612

>>52486877
>kef blade
here i was thinking you learned your lesson with the ls50 being as fucking garbage as they are but apparently not.

What are good iems for sports?

>>52487120
Whats the problem with KEF Blade 2?

>>52487219
severely overpriced and shit tier. get something well engineered like dennis murphy's stuff or better yet linkwitz

>>52487246
I would never put anything that ugly in my living room.

>>52487273
well now it's apparent why you own what you own. looks are everything, sound is irrelevant. why don't you just buy some b&o shit

>>52487281
Its a good thing you can change the sound with ease but changing the look is not that easy

>>52487322
>Its a good thing you can change the sound with ease
hahahaha yeah because your sick notch filter EQ is really good, amirite?

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>>52487333
>A misstake i made and corrected 4-5 months ago
>Still grasping at it

>>52487372
you're still yet to come up with decent EQ settings and chances are you haven't EQ'd your speakers at all because they're beyond saving.

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Hey /hpg/ I need some advice for some headphones under $40. I do really enjoy rumbly bass but I do want clarity in what I'm listening to. As for fit, I prefer over and on ear, no in ear.
I've been using some Sony MDR-ZX100 headphones for the past 3 years and they still work fine, I just want some sort of upgrade. I've used the HD 201 headphones and they're clear but lack the bass that I'm looking for.
What do you guys suggest?

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>>52487413
So you want nigger bass and you are so poor that you can't even buy a toaster oven?

>>52487382
>you're still yet to come up with decent EQ settings
Youre so right
>chances are you haven't EQ'd your speakers
Nope.I havent EQd them eaither, even after borrowing a measurement microphone and interface.

>>52487413
takstar pro 80

>>52487413
Actually I have an Idea for sub $40 that fits your requirements.
http://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-108323-Headphone-Gold-Plated-Accessories/dp/B007SP2CO2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1453105262&sr=8-1

+

http://www.amazon.com/Velour-Earcushions-Technica-Mdr7506-Headphones/dp/B0081SO0RM/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1453105314&sr=8-4&keywords=velour+pads

>>52481681
EQ isn't a trick that magically solves the bad sound of a headphone.

>>52481656
No wonder about that. But hey dude, that dip in the uppermids make Sennheiser "more neutral" and "more hi-fi" than other headphones! Lol

>>52482162
Not the guy you're replying to, but no, what you said is wrong. There's nothing more to EQ in the K702 than in the HD598 or HD600 or above. If you enjoy the sound of your headphones out of the box, you're fine. Aaaand.... K702 aren't "less neutral" thna the headphones I mentioned.

>>52484639
>does the fiio e10 have an amp built in?
Yes.
> And if so, does it work well with 32-56 ohm headphones?
It depends in their sensitivity.

>>52484422
> K702
> veiled
Nice meme reversal, friend.

>>52484680
It's not true. What you need to know is the sensitivity. Impedance don't tell you whether the headphones are easy or difficult to drive.

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Step aside weeb-shits are kraut-aboo's, quality American made shit coming through.

>>52487619
Don't care how good they sound. Dumbest fucking design.

>>52487633
I won't argue that they aren't fuck ugly, but High end grado's sound great and low end ones can sound pretty dang close to high end ones if you spend a few bucks and don't mind sawing the driver out of the cup.

They are one of the more worthwhile headphones that /g/ rarely talks about anymore.

>>52487671
They just aren't comfortable.

>>52487687
This. The pads are really itchy. The only good thing from Grado is the ability to mod it easily, makes it really fun for tuning the headphones.

>>52487687
That's pretty dependent on head and ear shape though.

>>52487714
Seems I'm not alone in that opinion. Though I've never tried the RS 1 or 2 but they seem to be the same thing.

What's a cheap amp I can get to pair with the K7xx? I'd like to get an 02 next time they're on massdrop, but who knows when that will be. The normal ~100$ Schiit recommendation is very expensive to ship to Australia, unfortunately, as much as I like the look of it.

>>52487852
Aussies
>>>/out/

>>52487442
Fuck off drakeposter.

>>52487852
e10k?

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>>52477735
so what would be a good pair of headphones to upgrade to ? I was thinking of getting a pair of AKG K550.

>>52488166
Great waifu and good music taste. You're ready for the AKG master race. Do you want closed or open?

>>52488166
>not posting purchasing request list

>>52477892
>I stsart hearing it at about 60% volume.
>>52477945
>what the fuck is wrong with you, I run at 6-12% volume

Volume is not a unit of measure, the pascal is.

>>52487852
http://headphones.com.au/psingle?productID=608

>>52488285
>>52488148
Thanks, I'll check it out.

>>52487852
>>52488311
wait I think I remember e10k being expensive as fuck for either canada or australia, don't know which one

you might be absolutely nigged

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Best DAC for a bang for the buck?

>>52488333
dac/amp or standalone dac

>>52488342
DAC/AMP would be ideal, but if I can get better quality DAC then I would prefer DAC alone

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>>52486877
>post K612
>not K702

ISHYGDDT

>>52488359
Just get a Modi 2 like the rest of the world. It provides 24/192 for $99 what else do you need.

>>52488359
get a shiitstack of modi + magni, if you already have an amp just get the modi

>>52488448
I don't like recommending the magni to people, there are better options imo if people don't mind spending a bit more or can solder or like tubes. Magni's just limit people to one run of the mill solid state amp, so regular in everything it does that they can never validate an upgrade or modification. Don't get me wrong it's a good amp, but that's my problem with it, it's so average and predictable.

>>52488500
>encouraging tubefags

>>52488500
Your problem is it's not adding distortion to the music?

>>52488523
>>52488514
:^) I like the warm sound tubes give and you can't stop me.

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>>52488239
>>52488244

>Budget
$150 top
>Location
The land of the free
>Source
My trashy laptop and my Xperia Z3
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Absolutely comfy
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral, wouldn't mind some bass.
>Preferred music
Rock, Pop, Jazz, Alternative, and a little of EDM and Hip Hop.
>Past headphones
Koss Porta Pros
Superlux HD668B

>>52488409
>24/192
24/192 support is literally the least important thing that the Modi provides considering how it is impossible for a human to perceive above 16/44.1.

>>52488500
What would you recommend?

>>52488616
558?
You could get K612 too, which is 150 on amazon.com, maybe bit cheaper on some other US site

>>52488616
>open
>thinking of getting K550
What?

The K612 is open, but it's at the very limit of your budget and you would have to spend more on an amp for it. so probably not.

Maybe 558 and do the foam mod (look it up).

>>52488678
>>52488616
http://www.eglobalcentral.com/akg-k612-pro-over-ear-headphone.html
Not sure how legit this is but it's 20$ cheaper than amazon and claims free shipping in all 50 states & free returns if it doesn't work or wahtever

reviews of the site seem p gud 7-7.5/10

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>average beats owner pisses their pants
as expected

>>52488333
Your motherboard.

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>tfw

Can't wait

>>52488992
why did you pick those?

>>52488891
>/hpg/ doesn't know what a shadow is

Definitely the dumbest general on 4chan

>>52489020
Why not? Can you suggest anything else for that price?

>>52489042
just wondering why you chose them, not judging

>>52489110
Head good things about it, plus it's really good price, I really can't find an alternative in same category.

>>52489020
He fell for the AKG shill

literally 1 guy with a k702 and e10k

>>52489230
found the sennheiser shill boys

>>52489230
Now make it two :^)

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>>52488616
You may find the K612 for less than your budget, but you would probably need to spend extra money on an amp (Fiio E10K can drive it well, it depends on how much it costs in your country). Otherwise you could get a HD558.

>>52488992
Great purchase.

>>52489230
Nice anti-shilling, boy.

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Got a pair of these E200Ms, I prefer over ear headphones so the quality of these really surprised me. I got them for ~$40 and they have comparable quality to my M50s. Main thing they lack in is bass, which is fine since I dont listen to bass heavy music.

>>52489471
Very good mids for a cheap pair of IEMs tho

>>52489020
Because they are best

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>>52489315
>>52489286
3 m80's
>tfw

>tfw fidelios

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Waiting for my microphone to arrive but I found these silicone ears used for binaural recordings on ebay. I hope they are suitable for headphone measurements in terms of size. At least they aren't really stiff like some of the ear models used in measurement rigs.

>>52489785
make me some asmr vids anon

>>52489840
I only ordered one mic. I can whisper to you in mono if you like.

>>52489854
feels bad man

>>52489854
>whisper to you in mono if you like
That's not how binaural works...
How do you expect to filter the ear response in your reults?

Just bought DT-880s 250 ohm, not using an amp.
R8.

>>52490186
use an amp

At what bitrate does Ogg Vorbis reach transparency?

>>52490578
Under usually around 160kbps and almost always under 200 kbps but depends on the encoder somewhat too.

>>52490615
Which encoder should I use? I have Musicbee as main player

>>52490056
>That's not how binaural works...
I know.
>How do you expect to filter the ear response in your reults?
Not sure, I haven't read through the papers yet. Might end up not using the ears at all but they could be useful for leakage measurements at least. Do you have any ideas?

>>52490681
Anything using libvorbis 1.3.5, for example:

http://www.rarewares.org/ogg-oggenc.php

Or just grab an ffmpeg build with the library included.

>>52490727
Ok thanks. Should I avoid encoding Flac into Ogg through Musicbee?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh_9Aeuh_PQ

is there ANY chance this isn't shit?

>>52490746
Depends entirely on the encoder implemented in musicbee. I'm unfamiliar with the software.

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I asked this before but I didn't get much help...
Are the SonyMDR-ZX700 any good? Ive read a few reviews saying they are "meh" and shit like that, however, they are rated over its original price ($150) but I found them pretty cheap ($20 + shipping)
Are they good or could I get something better for the same price? Has anyone have any experience with them?
I gotta say I'm an audio pleb whom current headphones are the Apple Earpods.

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I need some help regarding audio stuff.
Even though it's not about headphones, I think this is the best thread to ask it.

I have Superlux HD668B.
They don't have any form of volume control, and neither does my keyboard, which is annoying.
Can anyone recommend a cheap volume control thingy?

>>52490946
The audio controls on your computer not good enough or what? Takes like 2 clicks.

>>52491106
kinda annoying when you're in-game, or working

>>52491141
please dont spend money on something so you can save 2 clicks and a few seconds in a video gae

>>52491141
Make one yourself

http://lifehacker.com/5904280/diy-headphone-adapter-adds-pause-play-and-a-microphone-to-any-smartphone-headphone-jack

>>52477864
>tfw listening to katyusha when I read this

>>52490842

They're a decent budget set of cans dude.

Pros:
- They're well built for the price
- Easy to drive
- Good isolation
- Comfortable (Again, for the price)

Cons:
- Small sound-stage
- Shitty/non-replacable cable
- Not the best ear-pads

Basically, for lounge listening, they wouldn't be a great buy (although, you can you can get them for $20 + shipping? Whilst that sounds shady, that's a fucking bargain).
For commuting, they'll be fine.

>>52491167
>you're not allowed to have nice things

>>52491289
>absolute waste of money

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Does anyone have any experience with these JBL earbuds? Are they any good?

>>52489027
>Definitely the dumbest general on 4chan
Agreed, I feel dead inside. This place used to be fun.

Lurking around here I noticed a couple things from the past weeks.
>inb4 shitstorm
>some nsa trier template instead of the infamous waifu one
>dog eats dogs type of shilling and a kid with aspergers type of arguments with no sense of proof besides using headroom measurements which is notorious
>2 times this anon makes the threads and post comments >tfw first to feel like he's important
>sometimes this general advice about headphones become so bad it's not given a chance for people to decide to try out something else
>nobody doesn't want to discuss general audio at all without being shitted it
AKGoblin if you're reading this. I have summon you by just basically mentioning the K702 that I gave them away to my auntie. Remember that was like 3 week ago...
AKG is a joke, hell the Harmon corporation don't even use their own headphones because they know it's shit, they use Sennheiser for their own research(AES 139 Factors that Influence Listeners’ Preferred Bass
and Treble Balance in Headphones). And the K702 is really the poor man fix of the K701, some plebs like you accidently mistake it for the HD600.

please stop giving advice for now on and do some research from the guides: https://mega.nz/#F!3MFm1DrD!4GlU_vNtEeF148kZcQ05wA
>>52489785
Those models still look ok on the picture but different in RL I guess. Still nice for a cheap manikin.
>>52490706
Have you checked out the ISO 11904-1 (a.4 & 5.4) & ISO 11904-2 yet.
>>52490186
>R8
Great purchase/M8
If it's too quiet then go >>52490334
And be sure that you listen at <85db for the safety of your ears.
>>52490759
>bluetooth
No, it's hipster shit anyway.
>>52490842
For the same price: Superlux HD668B
At it's original price: DT250, MDR-V6
>>52490946
If you are running Linux and using an DM, try tinkering around config file for the keyboard shortcuts.
If windows, a cheap USB audio control will do. Or win+d, alt+tab.

>turbo sennshilling

>>52491311
No, they're shit. They're a bassy mess.

>>52491350
>he hasn't done any ABX tests

>>52491388
>he is a sennshill
>he does it for free

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>>52491325

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>>52489027
I doubt it's shadow, I think it's the part of the pants that doesn't shave against shit to lose its colour

there's no way to get that blue with just adding a shaddow

>>52490777
OggEnc2.exe and Opusenc.exe for Opus1

>>52491309
Worth and value are entirely individual concepts.
>>52491325
>Those models still look ok on the picture but different in RL I guess. Still nice for a cheap manikin.
Yeah I got them cheap and I wasnt planning on them. There were no specs listed, just pictures of them mounted on a binaural microphone dummy head. Pic related.
>Have you checked out the ISO 11904-1 (a.4 & 5.4) & ISO 11904-2 yet.
Just reading through them.
>>52491325
>And be sure that you listen at <85db for the safety of your ears.
Exposure time matters equally much. You could listen 8 hours straight at that volume without hearing damage. I often listen louder but I never wear headphones that long in one sitting.

>>52491719
it looks like the outline of a phone honestly
>>52491735
yes but there are better options simply using the computer that avoid throwing money at something. I was saying for his own good, if he's able to afford it then go for it but speaking from the perspective of an unemployed indebted college student I wouldn't spend money on something like that ever.

>>52490578
Just use ~q6.

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>>52491735
>pic related

>>52491671
>shill
>false accusing someone who suggest different brands
>>52491692
I had enough bait to catch enough akgshills I can never go hungry.
>>52491735
>Just reading through
That's nice to hear, careful later on. If you do it, that you make sure you have to do multiple tests with it before calibration to ensure that it is working. Even that still bothers me.

>>52491325
Thank you for your accurate and unbiased opinions. You were really missed.

>>52491325
>>52491880
>>52491938
>accurate
>unbiased
lol no

So, I can't decide between the K702 and the DT880 250 Ohm.
Do I need an amp for either?
How does the sound differ?

>>52492182
yes

>>52492182
Both of them might need an amp, yes. DT880 is warmer and bassier, the K702 is colder.

>>52492233
>warm
>bass
disgusting

Hey guys I'm looking to buy a pair of earpods, help me out?

>Budget
50$ CAD or less
>Location
Canada
>Source
Laptop or phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Looking for earbuds/earpods
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
7/10 on the comfort scale
>Preferred tonal balance
Nooo idea what that means
>Preferred music
I listen to a mix of everything. Pop music, electronic stuff, classic rock. Quite a mix or types.
>Past headphones
Apple earpods

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>>52479857

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Who here /waiting/?

>>52492267
Or you can talk with >>52491325 who will tell you beautiful stories about HD600 being better than those two :)

>>52478079
Did you find any way to force windows into mono?

>>52491938
It's doesn't take a few people like me who did the research to understand and appreciate this.
>>52492112
Still in denial? OK tell me what happened to this general when I was gone.
>>52492182
Please put up the guide so I can understand your preference taste.
>amp
K702 No, DT880 maybe if it's too quiet.
>sound
The K702 has treble peaks coming from 2.5khz & 9khz while the DT880 starts the minor dipping(1-2.5db) from 1khz and a drop from 5khz.
>pick your poison

>>52492353
>butthurt faggot hating on the masterrace

>>52492233
From your description I'd probably like the K702 better.

I'm just personally bored to give advice here due to the insane levels of AKG shilling recently. You can't recommend anything else in certain price points without multiple shitposters.

>>52492353
>Please put up the guide so I can understand your preference taste.

You mean the purchase advice questionnaire? Lemme see if I can put that together again.

>>52492384
>hating on the masterrace
No, I don't hate it I find annoying now. I have the K550 for like three years anyway that's the one good thing out of them.

Hell the X2 master race was born like a meme and died like one, I'm just worried that some people are gonna get shitted at for mentioning some other brand.

>>52492499
because philips is a meme AKG isnt its just better

>>52492353
> K702, no amp
It really depends on his/her gear. K702 hasn't got a very high sens after all.
>pic your poison
Oh wait, are you going to amaze us by telling that Sennheiser are better?

>>52492390
High quality blogposting here. It's a great contribution to the thread, thank you.

>>52492279
e10

>>52492390
then go fuck yourself and join the masterrace

>>52492353
>>52492409
>Budget
Don't care, it's all about the point of diminishing returns.
>Location
Germany
>Source
X99-Deluxe (ALC 1150, 112 SNR)
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-size
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Great, I'm going to wear it for hours almost every day
>Preferred tonal balance
Should not be unsuitable for VoIP.
>Preferred music
Electronic, melodic, fast
>Past headphones
I got a G35 which I've been using for at least 5 years now. It works great for gaming + voice chat, the software does the job well, but I don't like the way it sounds. I got an AKG 619, and I like the sound, but it's way to uncomfortable to even use it longer than 30 minutes. I tried the HD558 I got my gf, but it left me pretty indifferent. It's also way to uncomfortable.

>>52492324
see
>>52488992
cant wait

Samson's SR850 or SR950?
Both are around the same price for me.
Which one is the way to go?

>>52492634
K612/K702/K7XX
HD600/650/700
Hifiman 400i

we kind of really need to know your budget, because looking at your "preferred tonal balance" and past headphones I don't think you know how expensive shit can get

>>52492676
which one is cheaper? I'd go with the SR850 if you don't mind not having that much noise isolation

>>52492634
AKG K7XX and fiio E10K
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/akg-k7xx-massdrop-first-edition-headphones

>>52492705
>which one is cheaper?
Practically the same price
>I'd go with the SR850 if you don't mind not having that much noise isolation
I don't care for noise getting inside as long as it doesn't leak out.

>>52492556

Any other suggestions?

>>52492705
If you need to know a budget, then: I looked at the K812, and thought, well, that's a big too much. Let's keep it under 500 Euro for the whole set-up.

>>52492757
400i and an amp/dac
If you don't need much in terms of knobs and inputs/outputs of the amp/dac, get a fiio e10k

>>52492634
you might want to get the AKG K7XX while it is still on massdrop, its about to hit its drop limit and is on the last 12 hours
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/akg-k7xx-massdrop-first-edition-headphones

>>52492547
>It really depends on his/her gear. K702 hasn't got a very high sens after all.
It's not necessary to get a amp considering if you really want that loud noise and the risk to get hearing loss.
>Oh wait, are you going to amaze us by telling that Sennheiser are better?
What is Reading comprehension
>check yourself
>>52492634
DT880 cuz you want it open. But I also would suggest the K550+modmic for gaming. Pocket panties savings: DT250
>>52492705
The 400i & HD650 should be good for his preferred music. But his preferred total balance seems to be something only closed headphones would do.

>>52492849
what fucking open headphones leak so much you can't understand the guy speaking into his mic?

>>52479130
>would DT-990s be a good choice?

I compared them directly to the hd600, couldnt stand the treble, it's true. Listen before you buy and decide for yourself.
Same genres, I went with the hd650.

>>52492634
K7XX or K702

>>52492849
> hearing loss
I'm driving the K702 on the E10K and I always keep the knob at level 2-3. How do I know the dB out of my headphones?

>>52492849
Don't worry, the only thing I'd need an amp for is audio quality.

>>52492827
They require me to sign up to even look at the page. Seriously?
Isn't the K7xx just a K702 with slightly boosted bass? In that case, I'd stick with the K702.

>>52493078
Get a dB meter. Only way.

>>52493108
K7XX is cheaper and more comfy though

>>52492924
>open
Depends the isolation and how loud it is.
I hope that he doesn't get himself one of those omnidirectional microphones.
>>52493078
http://www.hearingloss.org/content/prevention-hearing-loss
Remember time yourself.
>>52493108
>Don't worry, the only thing I'd need an amp for is audio quality.
That's alright. You're mostly gaining loudness which does make a difference.


We've already hit the thread bump limit.
>oh noes quick somebody make a thread designated for this shitty general
Don't forget everyone's watching all of you getting cuckold at.
nite

>>52493163
>Don't forget everyone's watching all of you getting cuckold at.
The fuck are you talking about?

>>52493192
We're dealing with everyone's shitposting I guess.

>>52491735
>>52491325
Well, at least someone reads the stuff on Mega.

>>52493867
Yeah, our own kind of people are getting left under the carpet badly.

Here's a neat episode about traditional harmonics and frequencies being used for the Commonwealth people.
http://www.cbc.ca/natureofthings/episodes/sonic-magic-the-wonder-and-science-of-sound

>Canada only

>new thread OP forgot to link it here
>forgot to put this thread's link in OP

Oh come on.

>>52492928
>>52492928
>>52492928