>Requesting purchase advice:
>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
> Making it early just to get your weeaboo picture that will be deleted anyways
The cancer is real
>for example dt770 has significantly more
so glad that i didnt get these niggabassphones
ffs the rattling has gotten worse in the right cup of my m50x
metroboomin want some more nigga ._.
i think I'm going to send them back and buy the same ones again
>tfw upgraded from takstars to akg 702's
Feeeeeels good, especially with my midi keyboard, I'm set for life, If I was going to spend more than £130 I might as well keep going and buy a new fucking 5.1 system for well over £300.
this shit doesn't let me sleep lads
some ATH M50xfags please listen this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TOB2McGSVw
and tell me if they hear rattling from 0:12 to 0:24
I stsart hearing it at about 60% volume.
how exactly do i fix this? Do i have to take apart the whole cup? I already took off the earpad and checked if there's any foreign matter visible but it isn't. i also blew through the holes just to make sure. it still sounds the same.
Bass lover anons, if you want to feel bass, get a SubPac (headphone subwoofer)!
how big are the HD202 cups
the pads also look thin and really uncomfortable
I don't know man, I think everything at that price point is gonna be pretty shitty, I'd still save up for a 7506 if your budget is close
>how exactly do i fix this? Do i have to take apart the whole cup? I already took off the earpad and checked if there's any foreign matter visible but it isn't. i also blew through the holes just to make sure. it still sounds the same.
Can you play it without the earpads and the bare driver visible and determine if the rattle is present?
>owns weeaboo headphones
>calls other weeaboos
They aren't hurting anyone, let them wank over their cartoons m8
I know it's not the first time i post about this. it's a legitimate problem though. I also hear the rattling when I merely tap my right cup while no music is playing. i don't hear rattling when I tap the left cup. so it's definitely the headphone not the source.
maybe you are using an amp that's louder than mine. I just listen with my PC. Or maybe I just like to listen music louder than you do ._.
>Can you play it without the earpads and the bare driver visible and determine if the rattle is present?
yeah i could try that.
Sennheisser HD 202 or Superlux HD 668B?
Both are at the same price for me. Which one should I choose and why? I would prefer the sound to be as flat as possible (which seems that Superlux is better in this aspect). Or should I go for an alternative to those two instead?
>Preferred type of headphone
full over ear
>Open or closed
comfort is important, I wear glasses
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral, but they can have some bass
rock, pop, instrumental
SR850. HD202 and HD668 has too much bass to be flat.
SR850 is a re-branded HD681 with velour pads. The price varies a lot but if you can find it around $30 you've gotten a really slick deal.
>mfw partially deaf in one ear
>other ear has had multiple drum ruptures
at least i can feel the bass
Maybe you'd have to try removing the driver, the cause of the rattling could be at the back.
>this argument again
Regardless of your opinion, from an objective point of view, among headphones, the HD558 and HD598 are very neutral, more neutral than the K550 and K702. You are free to enjoy whatever you like but this is the objective truth.
do you even own them or do you jerk off to fr charts all day, im telling you as a owner of both that you are spewing bullshit and are wrong, but a doubt it matters to you since im sure sennheiser pays you to shill that veiled garbage here
do you hear any rattle when you tap either of the cups with your finger while wearing them thats not present on the other cup?
>Maybe you'd have to try removing the driver, the cause of the rattling could be at the back.
probably. but before I do that, i rather sent them back and buy them again.
>inb4 they will send me exactly the same ones
The R500 likely has a high output impedance value on the headphone out. They are excellent for speakers but shitty as a dedicated headphone amplifier.
SR850 has a flatter response, HD668B has more bass. The SR850 is also more comfortable so another reason to get that in my opinion. Both headphones are prone to being a bit bright.
kek just enable your trip so everyone can filter you.
calm down lads, I'm not even the one you were argueing with. I was only saying out of personal experience that your ears might have different sensitivity to certain frequencies than other people's ears, which is why the "but i compared them myself and X sounds more neutral" argument doesn't hold any water. makes sense eh?
No you fucking ignorant retard.
As a speaker amplifier R500 is excellent. Despite many beliefs, older and newer receivers all sound the same.
The problem with most receivers is that they're poor at powering headphones.
>using an amp with a high output impedance, which is objectively bad
lmao get out of here
How are you different from those idiots who think tube amps are good because they're not "entry level"?
>older and newer sound the same
no newer ones are all the same as a gaming headset you combine a shitty audio reciver and a shitty video receiver and you get a shitty modern AV receiver, audio quality in receivers went down the drain the moment they tried to tack on shitty av components to them
>no newer ones are all the same as a gaming headset you combine a shitty audio reciver and a shitty video receiver and you get a shitty modern AV receiver, audio quality in receivers went down the drain the moment they tried to tack on shitty av components to them
Hahahahahahaha, you're truly a fucking idiot beyond saving.
Not much niggamusic, but as I said they got heavy use for years. To test the song just now, I plugged it into an O2 amp at high volumes I wouldn't want to listen to for more than ten minutes.
If anything else, the M50 has a reputation for pretty sturdy build quality, so it's likely that either something got into your driver or you just got a lemon that needs replacement.
again i only make opinions on shit i own and from my experience older > newer
says the tard making assumptions on shit he doesn't even own
Sennheiser IE80, severely underrated tbqh, they sound better than the hd598 also, at least the IE80 isnt veiled
Am I the only one who loves this song?
>blow dat purple nigga high like fucking martians woah
>says the tard making assumptions on shit he doesn't even own
He's posting FACTS not assumptions.
Vintage receivers are a meme, they don't sound inferior to present stuff but they don't sound any better.
Two amplifiers sound the same if the FR, noise, distortion and output impedance are at levels that exceeds the threshold of human hearing.
Why would people even buy this piece of shit?
HD518 does the same shit but is better.
Pick 3 for the rest of your life.
If I like to listen to Electronic, Rock, and Hip Hop music
would DT-990s be a good choice?
Heres an example of what I like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xZY8VJHqU4
K7xx is a specific headphone, a rebranding of the K702 Anniversary / K712 that boosted the bass a little over the regular versions. It's on Massdrop right now.
People used to refer to the AKG K7 series (K701, K702) as K7xx before the actual K7xx came out, so there's the confusion. The K701/702/Q701 have very tight bass with good extension, but they should probably not be your first choice if you're the type that likes a lot of body and impact in your bass.
I recently bought a pair of 702's and the bass is fine, I even have the option to turn bass boost on my fiio e10k but I don't 95% of the time, and that's whilst listening to rap music.
Can't decide between:
Philips Fidelio S2
HifiMan RE-400 Waterline
I mainly listen to hip-hop, electronic and rock music.
Im going diving for hidden gem earbuds in Akihabara in a few hours, any good buds to look out for? Not looking to spend more than $30 (3000 JPY) but they'll be used so price range could go up to $50. Will be using with music like shoegaze and punk.
If I recall, the Portapros are quite bassy.
The extension and detail on the K7xx bass would likely be better, but the K7xx although a big upgrade in the overall sound wouldn't be bassier.
this is a 40mm fan next to a coin
how do oneplus icons compare to other IEMs in that price range?
Iam deciding between
what do you think?
also, can i make my choice entirely dependent of this site? is this guy legit?
ah i forgot, i listen to synthwave, edm and metal, so bass is important
and i want to keep the iems cables under my shirt/sweater while wearing them cable-down, so they need to have good microphonics (if thats not a meme, idk, just read about it)
I've got a chance to get a vintage Yamaha CA410 for $70. Perfect working order. Right now I have an o2+odac (not the new Rev B).
Debating if it's worth buying. I could just use the odac part of the o2+odac by running RCA out from it to the input on the 410, then run my phones through the 6.35 jack on the front and speakers with wire from the back.
I've heard great things about the sound signature from the CA410, and the additional adjustments would be nice; but, the o2+odac is so often considered best / near best in its price range. Input?
>Yeah, as I said the bass on the K7s is fine, but obviously someone looking for bass impact should consider other headphones first.
It really depends on the ear sensitivity of a person imo. According to most graphs, it doesn't look like the K702 has much bass, but like >>52479261 siad I feel that the bass on my K702 is punchy and has a lot of impact most of the times. What really amazes me every time is how I feel the impact not just from, let's say, the drums, but also from the chords and other instruments. When paired with a good recording, the K702 can make even the most subtle details come to light, even in the bass region.
LG Quadbeat 2/Quadbeat 3 by AKG
Zero Audio Tenore
Mee Audio A151
A very small sampling of the IEMs to try and discover, since there is like no barrier to entry in the IEM market.
>compare to other IEMs
The cheap IEM in general is bass heavy, and what makes it not suck is not having sharp peaks and dips besides the canal resonance.
Of course, because these are IEMs, even screwy FR doesn't matter as much with a parametric EQ. Although, the EQ interface may not be as friendly as you like, and battery life is always a concern.
Microphonics is cable noise, vibrations transited along the stiff cable. If you can loop the cable over the ear, it is usually greatly suppressed, hence why there are so many over the ear in-ears.
I bought a £10 cable for my new 702's last night, it has metal jacks and a coil spring etc but I bought it because it's 2m long instead of 3, Do you think there would be any loss in audio quality?, I would have thought not.
I prefer my KZ ED9's over my piston 3's, they are much cleaner when you use the non extra bass nozzle. i'm no expert in IEM's but they are the best I have ever tried, worth checking out.
>ok, and what do you suggest from these iems?
I haven't tried out those IEMs. I got sick of the try/buy/sell IEM cycle.
>also, what about that site?
Plenty of /hpg/ posters froth at the mouth at the thought of subjective reviews.This is because most listeners don't know what they are hearing, and then write a review about their ignorance.
As for Joker's reviews? He's certainly better than the rabble at reviewing. Considering that he also has listened to many hundreds more IEMs than he has actually bothered to review, he might have something worth saying.
He has his preference (mild V-shape), and tries to consider things outside of it. Certainly more than what I'm willing to do. You can just ask him directly.
>would be any loss in audio quality
Why would there be?
The answer is always Sennheiser.
I've got both the QuadBeat 3 and the 2nd gen A151. The QuadBeat 3 blows it out of the water. The A151 is muffled yet bright at the same time. I really don't enjoy them, but the ergonomics are some of the best.
I don't get the appeal of Pistons, been disappointed with every release.
>This is because most listeners don't know what they are hearing, and then write a review about their ignorance.
Not just that but unless blinded or double blinded, listening to audio gear is fundamentally biased. So many other factors than the sound itself affect what we hear and a good listener is not free of this bias.
I don't really trust my own ears much. I have to have a reference pair or two somewhere right next to me to switch to in order to make subjective impressions which hold any water. Even then I'd rather not read or talk about sound subjectively in reviews aside from a very simple overall impression. Subjective reviews are useful for things that are easily evaluated by wearing the headphone like comfort and build quality.
Well compared to the KZ ED9's I would agree with you, night and day difference when using my midi keyboard, check them out, I got mine from aliexpress for £9.00. the actual heads have a solid metal body and they are solid overall so I would guess fakes aren't common at all.
This thing sounds like muffled ass, fuck all the sennshills i got memed into buying this garbage
>unless blinded or double blinded
I don't want to touch the psychology mess that is cognitive bias, crowd mentality, and cross-modality.
I don't like to bring it up as it sounds like an uninteresting thought extinguisher, even if the psychology is an interesting research subject in itself. Yes, it is very much a real phenomenon,something that must be controlled in any scientific experiment, and an aspect of daily life, but I would like to argue that the audio sensation alone does matter in casual sighted listening. Headphone manufacturers might like to prove me wrong.
Single blind, double blind, or triple blind, it doesn't matter if the subject can't discriminate the sensory input as different in the first place.
Not any of the guys you're replying to but I haven't used an EQ for nearly a decade, My 702's don't need one and my 770's before that didn't either. Sounds like you bought some meme phones my man.
>Not any of the guys you're replying to but I haven't used an EQ for nearly a decade,
a friend gave me one of these and he said its an improvement over onboard. i'm using them with headphones and it does seem to sound better, definitely notice better positional audio in games. my question is whats the difference between this and a pci soundcard?
>tfw you own the world's best headphones
>mfw I push my earphones in more and I hear how bassy they actually are
now I know why that m50x post I made looked so weird
250-400 EU shekels
PC sound card and some Fiio variant
Long term usage, must be heaven goose down pillow soft tier
>preferred tonal balance
Senn 595, Senn 600, AKG 700, SonyMDR-V6
Just looking for that extra comfy balance.
Unless I already have it in my possession please specify
dat master race
>posts a sennheiser
>not a K612
>A misstake i made and corrected 4-5 months ago
>Still grasping at it
Hey /hpg/ I need some advice for some headphones under $40. I do really enjoy rumbly bass but I do want clarity in what I'm listening to. As for fit, I prefer over and on ear, no in ear.
I've been using some Sony MDR-ZX100 headphones for the past 3 years and they still work fine, I just want some sort of upgrade. I've used the HD 201 headphones and they're clear but lack the bass that I'm looking for.
What do you guys suggest?
So you want nigger bass and you are so poor that you can't even buy a toaster oven?
>you're still yet to come up with decent EQ settings
Youre so right
>chances are you haven't EQ'd your speakers
Nope.I havent EQd them eaither, even after borrowing a measurement microphone and interface.
Actually I have an Idea for sub $40 that fits your requirements.
EQ isn't a trick that magically solves the bad sound of a headphone.
No wonder about that. But hey dude, that dip in the uppermids make Sennheiser "more neutral" and "more hi-fi" than other headphones! Lol
Not the guy you're replying to, but no, what you said is wrong. There's nothing more to EQ in the K702 than in the HD598 or HD600 or above. If you enjoy the sound of your headphones out of the box, you're fine. Aaaand.... K702 aren't "less neutral" thna the headphones I mentioned.
>does the fiio e10 have an amp built in?
> And if so, does it work well with 32-56 ohm headphones?
It depends in their sensitivity.
Nice meme reversal, friend.
It's not true. What you need to know is the sensitivity. Impedance don't tell you whether the headphones are easy or difficult to drive.
Step aside weeb-shits are kraut-aboo's, quality American made shit coming through.
I won't argue that they aren't fuck ugly, but High end grado's sound great and low end ones can sound pretty dang close to high end ones if you spend a few bucks and don't mind sawing the driver out of the cup.
They are one of the more worthwhile headphones that /g/ rarely talks about anymore.
What's a cheap amp I can get to pair with the K7xx? I'd like to get an 02 next time they're on massdrop, but who knows when that will be. The normal ~100$ Schiit recommendation is very expensive to ship to Australia, unfortunately, as much as I like the look of it.
so what would be a good pair of headphones to upgrade to ? I was thinking of getting a pair of AKG K550.
I don't like recommending the magni to people, there are better options imo if people don't mind spending a bit more or can solder or like tubes. Magni's just limit people to one run of the mill solid state amp, so regular in everything it does that they can never validate an upgrade or modification. Don't get me wrong it's a good amp, but that's my problem with it, it's so average and predictable.
The land of the free
My trashy laptop and my Xperia Z3
>Preferred type of headphone
>Open or closed
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral, wouldn't mind some bass.
Rock, Pop, Jazz, Alternative, and a little of EDM and Hip Hop.
Koss Porta Pros
>thinking of getting K550
The K612 is open, but it's at the very limit of your budget and you would have to spend more on an amp for it. so probably not.
Maybe 558 and do the foam mod (look it up).
Not sure how legit this is but it's 20$ cheaper than amazon and claims free shipping in all 50 states & free returns if it doesn't work or wahtever
reviews of the site seem p gud 7-7.5/10
>average beats owner pisses their pants
You may find the K612 for less than your budget, but you would probably need to spend extra money on an amp (Fiio E10K can drive it well, it depends on how much it costs in your country). Otherwise you could get a HD558.
Nice anti-shilling, boy.
Got a pair of these E200Ms, I prefer over ear headphones so the quality of these really surprised me. I got them for ~$40 and they have comparable quality to my M50s. Main thing they lack in is bass, which is fine since I dont listen to bass heavy music.
Waiting for my microphone to arrive but I found these silicone ears used for binaural recordings on ebay. I hope they are suitable for headphone measurements in terms of size. At least they aren't really stiff like some of the ear models used in measurement rigs.
>That's not how binaural works...
>How do you expect to filter the ear response in your reults?
Not sure, I haven't read through the papers yet. Might end up not using the ears at all but they could be useful for leakage measurements at least. Do you have any ideas?
I asked this before but I didn't get much help...
Are the SonyMDR-ZX700 any good? Ive read a few reviews saying they are "meh" and shit like that, however, they are rated over its original price ($150) but I found them pretty cheap ($20 + shipping)
Are they good or could I get something better for the same price? Has anyone have any experience with them?
I gotta say I'm an audio pleb whom current headphones are the Apple Earpods.
I need some help regarding audio stuff.
Even though it's not about headphones, I think this is the best thread to ask it.
I have Superlux HD668B.
They don't have any form of volume control, and neither does my keyboard, which is annoying.
Can anyone recommend a cheap volume control thingy?
They're a decent budget set of cans dude.
- They're well built for the price
- Easy to drive
- Good isolation
- Comfortable (Again, for the price)
- Small sound-stage
- Shitty/non-replacable cable
- Not the best ear-pads
Basically, for lounge listening, they wouldn't be a great buy (although, you can you can get them for $20 + shipping? Whilst that sounds shady, that's a fucking bargain).
For commuting, they'll be fine.
Does anyone have any experience with these JBL earbuds? Are they any good?
>Definitely the dumbest general on 4chan
Agreed, I feel dead inside. This place used to be fun.
Lurking around here I noticed a couple things from the past weeks.
>some nsa trier template instead of the infamous waifu one
>dog eats dogs type of shilling and a kid with aspergers type of arguments with no sense of proof besides using headroom measurements which is notorious
>2 times this anon makes the threads and post comments >tfw first to feel like he's important
>sometimes this general advice about headphones become so bad it's not given a chance for people to decide to try out something else
>nobody doesn't want to discuss general audio at all without being shitted it
AKGoblin if you're reading this. I have summon you by just basically mentioning the K702 that I gave them away to my auntie. Remember that was like 3 week ago...
AKG is a joke, hell the Harmon corporation don't even use their own headphones because they know it's shit, they use Sennheiser for their own research(AES 139 Factors that Influence Listeners’ Preferred Bass
and Treble Balance in Headphones). And the K702 is really the poor man fix of the K701, some plebs like you accidently mistake it for the HD600.
please stop giving advice for now on and do some research from the guides: https://mega.nz/#F!3MFm1DrD!4GlU_vNtEeF148kZcQ05wA
Those models still look ok on the picture but different in RL I guess. Still nice for a cheap manikin.
Have you checked out the ISO 11904-1 (a.4 & 5.4) & ISO 11904-2 yet.
If it's too quiet then go >>52490334
And be sure that you listen at <85db for the safety of your ears.
No, it's hipster shit anyway.
For the same price: Superlux HD668B
At it's original price: DT250, MDR-V6
If you are running Linux and using an DM, try tinkering around config file for the keyboard shortcuts.
If windows, a cheap USB audio control will do. Or win+d, alt+tab.
I doubt it's shadow, I think it's the part of the pants that doesn't shave against shit to lose its colour
there's no way to get that blue with just adding a shaddow
Worth and value are entirely individual concepts.
>Those models still look ok on the picture but different in RL I guess. Still nice for a cheap manikin.
Yeah I got them cheap and I wasnt planning on them. There were no specs listed, just pictures of them mounted on a binaural microphone dummy head. Pic related.
>Have you checked out the ISO 11904-1 (a.4 & 5.4) & ISO 11904-2 yet.
Just reading through them.
>And be sure that you listen at <85db for the safety of your ears.
Exposure time matters equally much. You could listen 8 hours straight at that volume without hearing damage. I often listen louder but I never wear headphones that long in one sitting.
it looks like the outline of a phone honestly
yes but there are better options simply using the computer that avoid throwing money at something. I was saying for his own good, if he's able to afford it then go for it but speaking from the perspective of an unemployed indebted college student I wouldn't spend money on something like that ever.
>false accusing someone who suggest different brands
I had enough bait to catch enough akgshills I can never go hungry.
>Just reading through
That's nice to hear, careful later on. If you do it, that you make sure you have to do multiple tests with it before calibration to ensure that it is working. Even that still bothers me.
Hey guys I'm looking to buy a pair of earpods, help me out?
50$ CAD or less
Laptop or phone
>Preferred type of headphone
Looking for earbuds/earpods
>Open or closed
7/10 on the comfort scale
>Preferred tonal balance
Nooo idea what that means
I listen to a mix of everything. Pop music, electronic stuff, classic rock. Quite a mix or types.
It's doesn't take a few people like me who did the research to understand and appreciate this.
Still in denial? OK tell me what happened to this general when I was gone.
Please put up the guide so I can understand your preference taste.
K702 No, DT880 maybe if it's too quiet.
The K702 has treble peaks coming from 2.5khz & 9khz while the DT880 starts the minor dipping(1-2.5db) from 1khz and a drop from 5khz.
>pick your poison
>hating on the masterrace
No, I don't hate it I find annoying now. I have the K550 for like three years anyway that's the one good thing out of them.
Hell the X2 master race was born like a meme and died like one, I'm just worried that some people are gonna get shitted at for mentioning some other brand.
> K702, no amp
It really depends on his/her gear. K702 hasn't got a very high sens after all.
>pic your poison
Oh wait, are you going to amaze us by telling that Sennheiser are better?
High quality blogposting here. It's a great contribution to the thread, thank you.
Don't care, it's all about the point of diminishing returns.
X99-Deluxe (ALC 1150, 112 SNR)
>Preferred type of headphone
>Open or closed
Great, I'm going to wear it for hours almost every day
>Preferred tonal balance
Should not be unsuitable for VoIP.
Electronic, melodic, fast
I got a G35 which I've been using for at least 5 years now. It works great for gaming + voice chat, the software does the job well, but I don't like the way it sounds. I got an AKG 619, and I like the sound, but it's way to uncomfortable to even use it longer than 30 minutes. I tried the HD558 I got my gf, but it left me pretty indifferent. It's also way to uncomfortable.
we kind of really need to know your budget, because looking at your "preferred tonal balance" and past headphones I don't think you know how expensive shit can get
which one is cheaper? I'd go with the SR850 if you don't mind not having that much noise isolation
>which one is cheaper?
Practically the same price
>I'd go with the SR850 if you don't mind not having that much noise isolation
I don't care for noise getting inside as long as it doesn't leak out.
you might want to get the AKG K7XX while it is still on massdrop, its about to hit its drop limit and is on the last 12 hours
>It really depends on his/her gear. K702 hasn't got a very high sens after all.
It's not necessary to get a amp considering if you really want that loud noise and the risk to get hearing loss.
>Oh wait, are you going to amaze us by telling that Sennheiser are better?
What is Reading comprehension
DT880 cuz you want it open. But I also would suggest the K550+modmic for gaming. Pocket panties savings: DT250
The 400i & HD650 should be good for his preferred music. But his preferred total balance seems to be something only closed headphones would do.
>would DT-990s be a good choice?
I compared them directly to the hd600, couldnt stand the treble, it's true. Listen before you buy and decide for yourself.
Same genres, I went with the hd650.
Don't worry, the only thing I'd need an amp for is audio quality.
They require me to sign up to even look at the page. Seriously?
Isn't the K7xx just a K702 with slightly boosted bass? In that case, I'd stick with the K702.
Depends the isolation and how loud it is.
I hope that he doesn't get himself one of those omnidirectional microphones.
Remember time yourself.
>Don't worry, the only thing I'd need an amp for is audio quality.
That's alright. You're mostly gaining loudness which does make a difference.
We've already hit the thread bump limit.
>oh noes quick somebody make a thread designated for this shitty general
Don't forget everyone's watching all of you getting cuckold at.
Yeah, our own kind of people are getting left under the carpet badly.
Here's a neat episode about traditional harmonics and frequencies being used for the Commonwealth people.