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>Buyer's Guide:
>http://pastebin.com/QJD7fSGU

>Where to Buy:
>http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL

>FAQs:
>http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtKp

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late night posting. Wonder what key caps to get.
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Best switch passing through.
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Viper with clears.
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What would you recommend as a first mkb?
Either Tactile or Linear
I game and program
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>>52467377
yo what is this
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>>52467558
Price range? LEDs or no LEDs? Switch type (see pic)? What size/layout?

>>52467568
Pok3r
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>>52467558
Ducky something or other.
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>>52467377
>>52467568
Is that a backlit poker 3? I'm semi jelly.
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>>52467579
>Price range
Well, something not too fucking expensive

>LEDs or no LEDs
If LED keyboards are more expensive, then no

>Switch type
Probably brown or red

>Size/kayout
Full (I'm used to typing numbers on the numpad, but willing to try the Tenkeyless too.)
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>>52467558
>>52467649

I got a ducky shine 3 in red cherry mx as my first

real smooth to type on and not noisy as fuck but it's out of production now so you might not find it everywhere

I've tried browns and clears as well and must conclude that clears are universally superior to browns with better tactility and better feel

tl;dr cmstorm quickfire rapid/ducky zero in reds or code tkl in clears

if you want to gayme I won't recommend any less than tkl due to using the fn key for the f row. The code is more expensive but that's because of backlighting and clears being more uncommon compared to blues, browns and reds
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Hi /mkg/, where's a good place to buy decent Mini USB cables? Braided is preferred, cost isn't an issue. Checked the pastebin, the two links are old and I can't find anything in them.
Pic related, the Poker II I bought for $40 and fixed.
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>>52467399
HNNNG
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>>52467347
I want tactile but with less noise than my MX blues.

Topre vs MX clear, fight!
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>>52467377
You have two options for color.

1: Coordinate with your desk and other peripherals

2: Whatever the heck you feel like
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>>52467680
Brown
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>>52467680
those switches are nothing alike. topre is linear ffs.
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>>52467779
How do you figure lol
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>>52467779
Everyone seems to be saying topre is tactile, thread image even says so.

>>52467758
I think browns feel like ass
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>>52467666
Thanks senpai
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>>52467807
Browns are literally blues without a click. Absolutely identical, down to the tenth of a gram.

So if you like blues, you cannot dislike browns. You're an imbecile.
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>>52467900
>Browns are literally blues without a click
Except they're not. That's the main reason why they're shit.

Currently typing on clears. They're much more tactile than browns, but sadly they still fail to recreate the crisp bump of blues.
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Anyone here use the AJAZZ Geeks AK33? Is it any good? Also if you know any trusted places to buy it that'd be nice to know thanks
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>>52468031
chinkshit
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I want to buy my first mech keyboard, I am going to get either a pok3r or a ducky shine 5. Are there any reasons that one would be better than the other? I play games but only very casually so I'm not concerned about the size. Also im concerned about the quality of the shines keycaps .
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>>52468071
Are there any other mech keyboards with a similar 60% design that includes the arrow keys? That wont cost me an arm and a leg
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>tfw your $15 chiclet keyboard is randomly pressing keys again

Why did I doubt you /mkg/?!
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>>52468177
Nopoo Choc mini
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>>52467673
ebay or amazon
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>>52468118
Shine 5 keycaps should be ABS but that's kinda like the standard for backlit keyboards. You can get PBT caps from vortex to replace them.

Apart from that, the biggest difference would be size

>>52468177
FC660M, noppoo choc mini, keycool 84 (slightly better chinkshit)
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>>52468118
ds5 owner here, the default keycaps are pretty decent. they're ABS, sure, but they're a lot thicker than shit like WASD caps probably because they're doubleshot. should be fine if you don't feel like replacing the caps.
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>>52468321
Thats good, really the only reason I am concerned about keycaps is because I was considering a WASD before this.
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>>52468350
from what i've heard WASD boards themselves are actually pretty good, it's just the keycaps that are shit.

if you're deadset on a WASD board, get one without caps and find some good PBT caps somewhere and you should be fine.

the shine 5 is a damn good board too, though. i have no complaints. either way you should be fine.
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romer g are easily the best mechanical switches on the market. prove me wrong /g/
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Alright, I think its time I pick a Mechanical Keyboard. Im going to buy it off mechkb (Australian retailer). What do you guys recommend for a first mech keyboard?
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>>52468694
Price range? LEDs or no LEDs? Switch type? What size/layout?
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Does anyone know of a place that sells PBT spacebars for the Leopold? I bought a nice set of white caps for mine but I don't have a spacebar that fits
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>>52468725
> Price Range

100 to 175 AUD

>LEDs

None

>Switch type

Cherry, quietests ones

>Size/layout

No number pad

Thanks :)
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>>52468740
Which leopold?

If it's the 660M you can just search for any cherry mx compatible one, but for the 660C you are pretty limited
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>>52468740
Cherry leopold or topre?
If topre, good luck ;^)
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>>52467377
>>52467406
>>52467673
>>52467752
>>52468910
>all these pictures of keyboards
Nice, this is what a keyboard thread should look like

>>52467680
I have keyboards with both, and they're both really nice.

I prefer Topre over MX Clear, but I could go back to using my old keyboard with clears and I'd still be absolutely happy with it.

Get a switch tester.
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>>52468804
CM storm quickfire rapid/ducky zero tkl in reds

use o-rings to reduce travel distance and sound
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>mfw planetary pack and remaining modifiers (ctrl, alt, right shift) are in the mail.
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>>52468839
It's the FC200RT which doesn't use the standard spacing for the switches on the keyboard
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>>52469037
Thanks :) Looks like the Ducky Zero TKL w/ O-rings will be my purchase. What about keycaps? Or the defaults ones good as is?
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>mfw cherry peasant have to buy additional rubber at scam prices HOPING to compensate how crappy their keyboards sound and feel
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>>52469058
Just find out how long is your spacebar then buy one of the approriate size from pimpmykeyboard or something
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>>52469088
>Or the defaults ones good as is?
Just go with the stock ones at first. You're not in a hurry to find a nice set of PBT caps, so take your time.
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>>52469126

Thank-you :) Anything I should know about? Any issues with my chosen keyboard?
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>>52469214
>Any issues with my chosen keyboard?
it has gay colours and is not topre.

everything else should be fine.
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>>52469214
Try out as many switches as you can before you decide.
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>>52469225
Not buying this until March, so I could possibly afford a topre keyboard.
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>>52469214
I had a Ducky Shine 4 before getting my current keyboard. Having dissembled and reassembled it, I can tell you that ducky makes solid keyboard.

The only kind of complaint I can think of would be that the cable isn't detachable. Though that's not a huge deal and some prefer it since a detachable cable introduces another possible breaking point.
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>>52469288
Topre is nice, but I do think that you should get a switch tester and try out various switches before dropping two hundred bucks or more on a keyboard.
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>>52467399
I want a board with those, but it will be a pain to get one with these in Germany. Are the Matias Clickys comparable? I heard that the blues feel so nice, since they were lubed a little? Is it possible to just lube Matias clicky switches so they feel comparable?
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>>52469311
Luckily, the Zealio group buy just started. It'll be going till Feb 27, but might end slightly sooner.

Going to order 120, but debating whether or not I'll order now or wait till the end. I know he ships by first-come-first-served, but he doesn't wait to charge you for your order, so if you order now, you pay now.

Anyway, if anyone's been itching to try them, R2 just started. Included is two new switches: The 78g and the 65g plate-mounted. Should be an interesting next few months
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>>52467752
>>52467406
Are these the original key caps?
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Best Cherry MX switch for both gaming and typing?
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>>52469589
No to both.

Sets are granite and pulse.
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>>52469610

Greens.
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>>52469610
clears
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>>52469610
browns
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>>52469610
>Best
>Cherry MX switch
Pick one
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>>52469673
>>52469691
>>52469704
well shit

>>52469707
pls no flame war
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>>52469726
Stop posting tumblr pics faget.
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>>52469735
got it from /tv/ and saved the filename as well
sorry, bud
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>>52469726
Let me say this, if you play games like CS where sound is important you might want to stay clear from blues and greens if your headphones dont block the sound out
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>>52469610
There is no "best for X"-switch.
It's like asking "what's the nicest looking led colour?".
It's all up to personal preference. Get a switchtester and find out which switch you prefer.
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>>52467673
PexonPC is down for the time being (at least, it was when I last checked) because one of their team members had a serious head injury and is hospitalized.

Your best bet is to go on /r/mechmarket (reddit) and find the user 90N1NE. He sells exactly what you're looking for, I've purchased a few cables from him and they've been stellar. He also doesn't fuck up the coil like most of the other places, he uses the proper method and the result is a tight, long lasting coil.

Here's a link to his most recent buy thread, you can also order one that isn't pre-made through his order form, but I normally just use the buy-thread as it's cheaper. I have a 14" braided that cost me 13 bucks, and a 3ft braided that cost me 19 bucks. If I ordered those custom, it would have cost much more than that, since that 3ft coil is more like 18ft of cable.

Note that his most expensive are at the top, so scroll down for the cheaper cables.

Anyway, link:
https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/410fxd/usmd_h_40_paracord_mini_usb_cables_and_custom/
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>>52469610
Buy a switch tester and figure out for yourself.
Everyone prefers a different switch, there's no objectively correct answer to this question.
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>>52469782
pexon is back

http://pexonpcs.co.uk/
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>>52469778

Some LEDs have a longer life than others, so there IS a best LED color.
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>>52469610
It's entirely up to preference. Generally, you don't want heavy switches for gaming because they may tire you out.

>>52469770
I play CS:GO with blues and HD650s just fine, and they're open headphones.
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>>52469782
pexon was back yesterday
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>>52469807
That's why I said "if your headphones dont block the sound out"
I play CS with Koss Porta Pro's and they don't block Razer greens, so I played browns for a long time, now trying out Novatouch
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>>52469807
btw aren't HD650 closed?
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>>52469778
>>>52469610
>It's like asking "what's the nicest looking led colour?".
Easy, no leds.

Leds a shit
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>>52469861

Why not just use PTT?
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>>52469807
>>52469878
oh sorry I was thinking of covering the whole ear what's that called
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>>52469610
Zealios hands down. They just started their group buy. They're normally impossible to find, too. If you're used to using a lighter cherry tactile switch, try the 62g. Even though the Zealios are heavier, they feel lighter because of the plastic they're made with.

For example, if you're used to using MX Browns or MX Clears, (45g and 55g), you're fighting the grit of the stem as well as the spring, so you end up feeling like you're fighting more resistance. The Zealios are made of a plastic that doesn't have the sandpapery feel to it, they're buttery smooth, so the resistance isn't so noticeable.

I went from 45g Browns to 65g Zealios and I swear you can barely notice the spring weight. it's like butter.

Anyway, I know you wanted Cherry specifically, but I figured I'd throw this out there just in case you didn't care about brand. It's the same form-factor, any MX caps will work on the Zealios, and they're generally known to be a huge upgrade over Cherry switches.

If you don't want to spend the extra bucks on the premium cost of Zealios, check out Gaterons. If you buy Gateron Browns and upgrade your springs, they're practically the same thing.

Anyway, I'd highly recommend Gateron over Cherry, depending on your switch. The Gateron plastics don't have the rough sandpaper texture of the Cherry stems, so you end up with a smoother downstroke in every case.
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>>52469905
I use push to talk? I'm not talking about other people hearing the keys, I'm talking about yourself hearing the keys.
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>>52469909
On-ear, as opposed to over-the-ear?

Then again, I put o-rings on my keyboard, so I only have to deal with the high-pitched clicks which are a bit muffled by my headphones.
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>>52469926

Oh, you just need a better headset then.
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>>52469949
No? Over the years I have played with probably 10-15 different headphones/headsets. Koss Porta Pro are fantastic, they're super cheap and light so you can wear them for hours on end with no discomfort. Most On-ear headphones will not block out sound from the real world, they're not supposed to do that
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So I have an ISO board which is already lacking a case and has MX Shits.

Going to try making a 60% with cardboard.
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>>52469924
Zealios sound cool. But I guess you need a to solder and shit yourself?
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>>52467749
1. Coordinate with the colours of your board, make it fit.

2. Don't

Fixed
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>>52467749

I never really liked red on black.

Just kinda clashes to me.
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>>52469726
MX clears would be the best choice, best tactile feedback you can get without the loud noise of the MX greens or MX blues.

MX browns are also decent, but the tactile feedback isn't as noticable and isn't too popular anymore because they "feel like dirty reds"

Don't pick any linear switch, or ill come and kill you.

MX greens and MX blues are also decent switches, with MX greens being quite a bit heavier.

I reccomend actually trying out a switch in a shop or something as you can then compare.
Or buy a switch tester.
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>>52469770
Clears doesn't make any excessive noise other than bottoming out.
Identical to something like reds.
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>>52470306
They ping somewhat noticeably though. Or maybe it's just my WASD V2.
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First for productivity

Neets and gamers need not apply
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day four hundred and ninety-three

still no aftermarket wasd/code/filco/qfr cases to be found except for that open-source thing

to what false god must I pray
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>>52470489
Why do you need another case?
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>>52470503
I covet one of those TEX aluminum TKL cases that are seemingly eternally out of stock on MK.com. Nobody has anything comparable that I can find.
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>>52470545

Those get a restock REALLY soon btw.

Check mks coming soon or restocking soon or whatever page.
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>>52470559
ETA in March/April. I can be patient for that. You have gladdened my heart.
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MX blacks are the best
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>I have a question for you guys:

How many of you can't type with 10 fingers?
I'm 18 and haven't ever learned it properly, because the teacher at that one course I visitedt in 6th grade was a morron. Just used the "Chopstick Method" til now.

I've started learning it through web apps and I can type mostly without errors, but still verry slow...
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>>52467406
>>52467752
>those cords


>>52469099
>not just asking your dentist for a couple of rubber elastics for free
Oh I totally forgot you are such a shut in neckbeard that you will most likely not visit a dentist or leave your basement.
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>>52470073
Oh definitely, there really isn't any other way to get them into a PCB without soldering (unless your PCB has a sip-socket setup).

I'm not quite sure why they offered the plate-mounted switches. Even the mass-manufactured plate-mounted boards regularly use PCB switches since there's no downside to them. Plate mounted switches just lack a couple little nubs at the bottom of the switch, and they don't really interfere with anything, even in a hand-wired setup. Bit of a weird choice, but I'm sure they had their reasons.

Soldering is incredibly easy, people just make it sound more complicated than it is. You're really just heating up two pieces of metal and touching the solder to the metal. The mistake most newbies make is touching the solder to the soldering iron, rather than the metal that the iron is heating up. Once you understand that, it's absurdly easy.

I worked at my uncle's TV repairshop from 12 years old until I was 18, and was soldering on my first day in the shop. Trust me, it's easy.
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>>52470865
I don't use my pinky to type letters, I'm a gamer
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>>52470865
Speed comes from confidence.
Keep doing those lessons.
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>>52470865
I type with ten fingers for the largest part. My two right-most fingers don't quite get used the way they should be for all keys, but I'm working on that.
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>>52470889
I don't think soldering is hard per se. It's more that I don't have the equipment and need
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>>52470922

>I'm a gamer

what does that have to do with typing you mongoloid.
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>>52469452
http://deskthority.net/for-sale-f55/some-keyboards-17-t12408.html
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>>52470889
>The mistake most newbies make is touching the solder to the soldering iron, rather than the metal that the iron is heating up.
As someone who's been soldering for going on 40 years now, I've always been struck that this advice is... not exactly right. Or at least, useless as far as a beginner is concerned.
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Is buying a second keyboard a slippery slope idea?

I don't want to be one of those people with a dozen of them
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What is wrong with WASD keycaps? The texture, shape or just general feel?
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>>52467406
Show me your numpad senpai
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>>52471040

Yes.

I built my second(Ergodox and Compact SQ) two weeks ago and haven't even gotten all the keycaps I want for it.

Already considering a third (infinity ergodox with 75g zealios).
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>>52471040
Yes.

If you are not happy with your current one, sell it.
If you are happy and just want something else, leave these threads before it's too late.
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>>52471147
>leave these threads before it's too late.
;_;7
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>>52471153
>mfw after years I realize the 7 is a salute, and not a typo
Wew
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>>52471040
Oh yes. Eventually, if you lose your footing, you'll end up either with a personal collection in excess of $10k, or in the manufacturing business yourself. Or both.
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>>52471147
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>>52471241
>or in the manufacturing business yourself
This sounds lovely actually.
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>>52471258
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>>52471258
I'll suck your dick for that black BM Model M
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>>52470865
I type with ten fingers, but I don't use the same methods as most. I often hit the 'y' key with my right-middle finger, and hit the 'b' key with my right-index finger.

I also hit the 'q' and 'z' keys with my left-ring finger, but depending on the words, I use the standard typing method.

For example, if I'm typing "Typing" or "maybe" or "key", I use my left-index for the 'y' key, but if I'm typing "yeah" or "you", I use my right-middle finger for the 'y' key.

My right-pinky does everything via the standard method, but my left-hand has less control over the board as my right. Not sure why or how I developed this habit, but it's been nearly impossible for me to break. I think it's because of the way certain words alternate between the right and left hands on the keyboard, I've made it a habit to try and alternate between hands as often as possible between letters since it feels more natural. It just feels awkward when the full word is typed with one hand, or when you need to type multiple letters in a row with the same finger.

Typing "Regret" for me is F-D-F-D-S-F, or typing "Buy" is J-K-F.

Though, I think most people develop weird little habits like this when typing. Typing by the standard method that most people teach makes it inefficient to type too many words. I've considered switching to Dvorak or Colemak because of it.

Oh, and i also only hit the spacebar with my right-thumb, which is frowned upon by most typing teachers. It realy doesn't make a big difference, though, since whenever your hands are on the keyboard, both thumbs are on the spacebar. Some of my favourite keyboards are either JP layout or 7Bit because of this habit. It gives me more keys, and allows for easy layer-switching.
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>>52469053
What keyboatrd is this?
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>>52471258
>two ergodoxes

Plan on getting an Infinity Ergodox too?

I need someone to talk me out of it. I don't give a shit about the LED screen, and I am not a fan of the usb 3.0 connectors.

But the NKRO and each half being independent is damn tempting.
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>>52471310

Compact SQ.
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>>52471269
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>>52471359
Nkro is a meme.

Tell me when you last used more than 5 keys
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>>52471374
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>>52471375

Less interested in the fact it is NKRO, and more that the stock ergodox has some considerable latency and rollover issues when both sides are used in weird combinations.
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I plan on doing both vidya and typing.
K70 RGB with Browns or Reds?
Or get a regular K70 with my favorite switch (Blues), even though I really want a RGB keyboard?
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r8 my keyboard
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>>52471599
i heard that razer makes pretty epic boards /b/ro!!! they are made for gamers (but only TRUE gamers, if u play minecraft thn fuk off)
they have lime green switches which are like cherry mx blues but better; ANDD had sweet, sweet RGB lighting

http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-keyboards-keypads/razer-blackwidow-chroma
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>>52471599
I like brown switches but you're the one paying for it
How can anyone else make that decision for you?
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>>52471610
looks pretty indie I bet you have some hip switches
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>>52471655
ironic shitposting is still shitposting
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>>52471655
>he doesn't own a colored backlight keyboard >2011
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>>52471772
The shiniest things about that keyboard is the keycaps.
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>>52471269
>that datahands
i'm so fucking jelly
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>>52471820
>shiniest things
>is
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>>52470966
thanks for the link, but from what I'm getting, there is no board with blue alps. I was going to buy the focus, but sadly somebody else was faster.
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>>52471820
AY Y LMAO
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xdddddddddddd
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>>52469053

>1.25u left side alt, ctrl, win
>1u right side alt, ctrl, win
>1.75u shift

FUCK YOU.

Love,

-Every custom keyset ever
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where do I get the switch tester with topre
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>>52472015
it's from coolermaster
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>>52470992
Considering I have less experience than you, what would you recommend? I can say that it was the mistake that I made most frequently and was learning from my uncle.

I guess I could be more specific and say that it's best not to heat up the conductor on the PCB, for a beginner at least, but I normally heat both, then leave the iron on the second conductor while I push the solder into the conductor, rather than the iron.

Whenever I've helped some of the guys at our SoCal meetups, they tend to make the mistake I mentioned.

I guess you could also start the solder off by touching it between the iron and the metal initially, but I've seen too many people stick the solder directly to the iron and let it bead up onto the connection, which doesn't really work well for long-lasting connections.

That's only my opinion, I guess though. Like I said, I've only maybe ~6 years of hard soldering experience, and about 15 years of soldering on-and-off under my belt, it's not something I do as often as I used to, only when working on a small project or something, but not as my profession.

What would you recommend I advise the newbies at our meetups? I'd be disappointed in myself if I were feeding them misinformation.
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>>52469053
Oh, it got restocked? Nice.
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>>52472106

Not yet, will before friday.

I just found a cheap set someone was reselling. With PMK upping the prices on everything they restock, I figured it best to grab it and not get screwed later.

I will probably pick up another planetary set when it goes back in stock.
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>>52469553
As someone who has 65g Zealio tactiles on (most of) my Compact SQ, I can say they're quite an improvement over any existing Cherry (or Cherry clone) tactiles. Would recommend.
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>>52472184

I built my Compact SQ with greens (seen earlier in thread) because I like the stiff keys.

Like a week after I finish they announced the new 78g zealios.

I kinda want to try them out, but I am afraid if I do, I will end up changing every switch on my Compact SQ.
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>>52472155
>I will probably pick up another planetary set when it goes back in stock.
Says you and three hundred others.
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>>52472257
Here's a solution: buy a sack of ~110 switches now, and look for a new custom to get in on.

It's only money!
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>>52472262

If I miss it is not the end of the world. I already got mine :3

I'd be surprised if it actually goes up for $16 again too.
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>>52472301
>It's only money!

>tfw I'm going to be that stupid fucker who dies without ever buying myself anything nice
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>>52472301

I have two custom keyboards now, four keyboards total. And only two computers.

I can't justify a fifth keyboard no matter how hard I try.

Plus I am in Japan, shipping here will suck so bad I wont be able to resell them later.
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>>52472373

Holy shit, I want a space bar with a drunken astronaut on it.
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>>52472073
>Considering I have less experience than you, what would you recommend? I can say that it was the mistake that I made most frequently and was learning from my uncle.
It's not that it's wrong, it's that it leaves out a major important thing. You need to be able to transfer heat to the metal you're heating for soldering, and you can't do that with a dry tip or, most often, without flux. If you're using a flux core solder, you often need to place the tip on what you're heating and then hit it with some solder to deliver both the flux and some solder to wet the transfer. If you're using pen or paste flux, you place the flux first, and then position the tip, hit it with fresh solder to transfer, and once what you're heating is nice and hot *then* you apply the solder to the leads, not the tip.
So the advice isn't wrong, it's just incomplete in a way that will confuse newbies.
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>yfw you realize the 8 key is aligned with the usbmini port and in a matter of minutes you can pretty much blind type any number just with your peripheral vision
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>>52472405
>>52472073
>>52470992
>>52470889
>>52470073

Want to know how to solder properly?

Watch this:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Sb21qbpEQ

That is all you need to know.
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>>52472444
with a numpad you can type numbers much more quickly and without needing any visual cues
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>>52472447
That's probably a mitt or something in the bottom-right but it looks like a teddy bear's arm to me.
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>>52472405
(I see people learning to solder making the mistake of trying like hell to get things hot when there's no wetting between the tip and pad/lead, and they're scared to add any solder because 'that's wrong'. You see the results here and on /diy/ all the time where people have ripped up pads and traces from trying to push harder and heat things for minutes at a time rather than using a little more flux/solder so the heat can flow)

trying to heat up leads or pads
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>>52472457
ok grandpa

remember to take your meds
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Looks like Win95 dyesubs have been added to the easypbt GB on GH.
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>>52472469

It is one of those felt pads you put on furniture to keep it from damaging a wood floor.

Can you spot what is wrong with that picture btw?
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>>52472491
remember to look at your keyboard when you have to type numbers
sounds like a blast
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>>52472447
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Sb21qbpEQ
Yes, this is spot on.
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>>52470607
From what movie/series is that gif?
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>>52472510
I don't. that's the point.

I used a visual clue to learn how to touch type them on blanks.
Now I don't need to look at it.
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>>52472504
>It is one of those felt pads you put on furniture to keep it from damaging a wood floor.
Interesting. That to reduce ping?

>Can you spot what is wrong with that picture btw?
Only thing I notice (other than the felt pad, obviously) is that they didn't clean up their flux. However, I don't do that either and shit works fine, so I don't think that's what you meant.
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>>52472532

Community.

It is fantastic.
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>>52472447
that guy took it up the ass one time too many.
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>>52472571

>felt pads

No, it is to protect the wood desk :3

The plates are held together by big ass wooden bolts that would fuck it up if in direct contact.

>flux

You don't have to because rosin isn't corrosive.

>wrong

SW2:11 is missing solder on one side of the diode.
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>>52472599
>wooden bolts

Woops I meant metal.
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Well, I bought my first keyboard, and decided to go with a meme.

What am I in for? Switching from a rubber done with flat caps.
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I want a TKL rgb and preferably blue switches(company isnt that important as long as its a similar feel as a blue switch) and I have a budget of 140 dollars. Can someone please point me in the right direction. Thank you in advance
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>>52472740
>What am I in for?

regret and crooked lines.
pic related.
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>>52472766

>that enter key
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>really want to try zealios
>don't want to commit $50 before trying them, but the switch sampler pack is sold out
God damn it
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>>52472740
Get used to sliding your fingers around to find the 'F' and 'J' keys I guess.
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>>52472804

Buy a 20 pack from the next order. Would only cost $15.
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>>52467347
That keyboard pleases my autism, but I bet it's a pain to hit space and enter.
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>>52472837
Yeah but who knows when they'll be available again
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>>52472866
it's a pain to hit pretty much any key.

You underestimate how used your fingers are to staggered rows.
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>>52472835

F and J are deep dish.

They don't look it but they feel different.

Can see it better here due to the way the light hits it:
>>52469053
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>>52472875

The new preorder just opened. Wont be too long.

Plus you can try the new 78g.
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>>52470364
>all that shit on desktop

>>52471147
Which keyboard is the one with JUST on it?
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what zealio switch is your guys favorite? 62g, 65g, 67g, 78g?
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>>52472927
Which one is closest to clears? Apparently they feel lighter since they're less scratchy so I don't know which one to buy.

I want something very slightly lighter than unlubed clears.
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>>52472927

>implying anyone has tried 78g yet
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>>52467406
>le clear meme
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>>52472927
>tfw you just spent 300$ on a korean board to be in the cool kids club, and then a new meme arrives and you are back in the pleb row
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>>52472926
>Which keyboard is the one with JUST on it?

Just Systems Board in JIS layout.

It is Topre I think.

There is a modern version made together with realforce that comes with HiPro keycaps.
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>>52472964

>clear back plate
>no RGB leds mounted on the back for dang underglow

disgusting
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>>52472964
>Green PCB
How pedestrian.
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>>52472950
i'm in the same boat as you, think i'm going to buy the switches for my next board, but don't know which to get

>>52472956
fair enough
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>>52472964

>spent $300 on a korean custom
>didn't get leeku's glorious Compact SQ korean custom for only $145 and assemble it himself

top tier pleb
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Is there a big enough difference between Topre and MX Clears to justify the price difference? I do a lot of typing, but I haven't paid more than $90 for a keyboard, and I'd hate to pay $150+ for something I might not like compared to the MX Clears.

Side note: I need it to have a number pad.
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>>52473148
>Is there a big enough difference between Topre and MX Clears to justify the price difference?
There is a big difference, but whether it is "justified" is a matter of personal perspective.

>Side note: I need it to have a number pad.
No, you want it to have a number pad.
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>>52473148
>to justify the price difference?
only you can tell that.

to me spending 220 on a topre board was probably what to you is spending 25$ for a good burger.

is it 5 times better than a 5$ burger? maybe not, but it's sure better.

Do I risk not eating for those 220 dollars? not at all, it was like 3 days of work. Your mileage may vary, we can't help you.
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>>52473148

It is personal preference.

Some swear by topre as if it is the second coming of jesus.

Some consider it trash.

I think that most people would actually like it. It is very similar to rubber done boards that most people have used all their life.

But you should really try it, along with all the MW switches, before you buy it.

A switch tester is okay, one connected to a computer so you can see activation points is better.

Best is a full board.
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>>52473169
I need the numberpad for productivity, but thanks.
>>52473188
Interesting comparison. Thanks.
>>52473229
I'll keep that in mind. Massdrop has been having Topre keyboards more frequently, tempted to grab the Novatouch.
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>>52473301
>tempted to grab the Novatouch.

Probably not a bad idea.

Some claim it isn't as comfortable as the HHKB, but that is preference.

The Novatouch has sliders that will accept Cherry MX keycaps, so you can get all those cool keycaps that cherry users post everywhere about.
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>>52473332
>Some claim it isn't as comfortable as the HHKB, but that is preference.

feel is 10 or 15% different due to
>steel plate
>cherry keys having a different profile
>hhkb caps feel better than even the thickest pbt caps I ever tried

sound is VERY different, since hhkb is plastic and switches are case mounted. hhkb sound is different than realforce boards as well, for that matter.

Also it is less portable if you value that. But the pro is you get to spend money on fancy caps sets and the novatouch design is great for any set.
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>>52473332
>>52473383
Whoops, Novatouch doesn't have a number pad. Guess I'll be buying something else.
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>>52473408


Buy this.

>http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B0093XN584
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Hi guys

>need a new keyboard
>prefer clicky switches like the cherry mx blue

can you suggest me something?
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>>52473453
>can you suggest me something?
sure.
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>>52473491
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>>52473442
>$222
nice try goyim
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>>52473408
Get an external one then, you putz.
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>>52473442
>http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B0093XN584

Fucking endgame right there.
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V80 clears on massdrop, should I /g/?
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>>52473664
Can you afford it? Do you want it?

if yes to both, then buy it
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>>52473664
It's pretty nice and worth the price for clears. see>>52473148
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>>52473647
who said endgame
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where do you get keycaps for torpe
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>>52473798

>all those different profile keys

ew

Just...yuck.

An endgame is supposed to LOOK good too.
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>>52473810
>where do you get keycaps for torpe
see
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT_MRyn6Zhs
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>>52472501
Гдe ты бpaл c pyccкoй pacклaдкoй?
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>>52473824
>>all those different profile keys

I bet this triggers you aswell.
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>>52467347
Looks like such a terrible layout, can't believe anyone actually made or uses that abomination.
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CM Storm QuickFire XT for €80 worth it?
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>>52473891

>all those different profiles
>kana key for backspace
>sideways enter
>alt keys at a retarded angle
>excessive use of artisans

Fuck.

It is like I am on reddit.
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>>52473891
>those alt and ctrl keys
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>>52473830
ok ill just got a novatouch
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>>52473969
purple are win keys.

caps lock is actually control.

>>52473956
maybe you will find solace in a more accepting community like tumblr.
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>>52473830

>topre so shit even china doesn't copy it

el oh el
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>>52474045
There are Chinese clones of Topre switches.
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>>52467347

Neato.

Apparantly the typing competition sponsored by the Japanese government uses realforce (108UH) and HHKB JP boards.

>http://www.maipaso.net/maipaso/kodawari.html

Probably because they love domesticaly produced stuff, even if something produced abroad is better. But it is still pretty cool.
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>>52474142
Well, Topre actually eliminates the issue of chatter and it springs back into position faster than cherry switches.
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It's like this sweet sex machine doesn't exist anywhere but YouTube reviews and imgur albums. What the fuck
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>>52474092

link

I want dirt cheap chinese topre.
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>>52474237
>the issue of chatter

Is that really an issue?

I thought it only happened on bad switches/connections?
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>>52474342
>I want dirt cheap chinese topre.
google "cherry mx keyboard"
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Just bought this. Did I do okay?
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1325
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>>52473647
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>>52474431
Get an old keyboard with alps to harvest the keycaps and you're good.
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>>52470364
>HHKB
>Calling others neets
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Is Tesoro to be avoided?
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Whats the sickest ducky keyboard
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>>52474630
Define "Sick"

I'd say either the Shine 5 or the Ducky Legend.
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>>52474431
What's the best switch for osu!?
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>>52474700
Blacks or reds
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>>52474700
Tfw didn't mean to quote that guy
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>>52474700
not blues

fuck that clicks from the blues mess up my rhythm
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>>52474142
i have the realforce, its whatever
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>>52474724
hold ctrl when clicking post numbers.
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>more osu retards

>>52474756
holy shit
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>>52474700
osu! is shit.
Play real rhythm games like lr2.
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>>52474756
>>52474784

Mind fucking blown.
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>>52469452
Alps blues are super hard to find, I got lucky with mine.
Matias does not compare to the blue alps. They feel somewhere between complicated white and simplified white alps.
I've taken them apart and they can be a pain to reassemble, if you plan on doing it, take a lot of Adderall.
But that's not to say they are bad switches. I still prefer them over any cherry.
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>>52467347
This is the most autistic looking keyboard I have ever seen.

>>52472866
>That keyboard pleases my autism
I rest my case.
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>>52474278
normies hate the name
every review and reddit thread i've seen discussion lolita spyders suggests that you grind off the name with sandpaper if it makes you uncomfortable
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>>52475009

Ortholinear is supposed to be good for your hands.

I am not a fan of the the board being that cramped though.

>>52475052

I'd grind it off too. Name is terrible.

If it was like a 40% it'd make sense. But a TKL called Lolita is stupid as fuck.
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>>52475052
The spyder is ugly. I need based 1st gen Lolita, black and blue LEDs
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>>52475052
Is it even a good keyboard?
I want to get the red switch model, and the cheapest model from established brands like cm is at least $30 more for reds.
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>>52474975
Well I've got way too much free time as it is and while I'm busy lubeing I can't buy stuff. Did you ever lube one of the Matias? Since they only sell them in packs of 200 it's rather expensive to try that myself.

Normally I don't like clicky switches (anymore), but after hearing the deep clack of the blue alps I fell in love again. I also heard that I should try Salmons, since I really like Matias QC. Would you recommend those as well?
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Feels good man
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Does anyone know if it's possible to replace the weird left control switch (and possibly caps) on a realforce 87 with normal ones? It looks like the only reason they're not standard switches is the LED window on the keycap itself.
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>>52467568
Backlit pok3r. WHite case and white back lit.
>>52467590
Its nice so far the backlight is actually pretty nice.
>>52467749
going to make a dank zen station really. Next thing is case and monitor mount.
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>>52468994
I would hope there wouuld be key boards in keyboard thread lel.
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>>52469610
clears and then browns. Clears are awesome, but browns have a cetain feel to them.
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>>52474342
Royal Kludge has a Topre clone or two that show up on MD sometimes.
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>>52475375
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>>52474756
What's this supposed to do?
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>>52467749
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>>52475415
oh god
food near a keyboard
and not just any food
greasy chocolate
10/10 you set off all my sensibilities
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>>52475486
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>>52475415
I-I-Is that a stock HHKB? Holy shit I've never seen one of those. That's so cool, where did you get it? I heard they are nearly as rare as Jirachi!
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>>52475199
Salmon alps are also very nice. They feel much like black alps except more smooth. I personally prefer white or blue because im a fan of clicky switches.

As far as lubing matias goes, I have not done it. I only made them have more resistance when I took them apart by bending the click leafs a bit more.

They do not sounds like blue alps though, they are a bit more high pitch
here's a decent compare of them (note these are complicated whites)
https://youtu.be/RyfwMU4Otno?t=5m24s
Matias pretty much sounds like the kayboard on the bottom.
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>>52475583
Do you live under a rock?
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>>52473915
i use the same board
it takes a bit of getting used to.
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>>52475244
ah, you have one of the MaxiSwitch variants with the mis-fit barrel plate.
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>>52469924
>Zealios
falling this hard for cork sniffing paying a premium for chink knock-offs over a negligable difference

Pro-tip: just get browns, clears or greens - Cherry or Gateron. After a few days when you're actually balls deep in some work you won't even think twice about the key switches.

If you want linear then just get reds. They're awesome.

If you absolutely have to wear a fedora and double monk strap shoes then get Topres, Alps or a vintage Model M.

Gold springs, stickers and expensive lube are for people that don't really need a keyboard for work in the first place.


Also, Plancks are for posers.
/rant
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>>52475613

I am pretty sure that was sarcasm, broski.

Most of the HHKB pictures in these threads are boring pictures of the same stock model.
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>>52475785
>I am pretty sure that was sarcasm
I never would have guessed mate

Stock HHKB is already perfection.
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>>52475595
Alright, thank you for your help. Judging by sound I doubt I'd like the Matias Clickys.
I guess I'll have to find a nice blue/salmon alps board. It's kinda sad that all those older keyboards are so well built. I'd most likely just use them as a donor board and build a nice 60% one with the switches.

Thanks for your time, really appreciate it!
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>>52475439
Too scared to try it out?
Better open up a virtual machine and use incognito mode incase I hack you
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>>52475838
Looks like a robot doing an handstand on one hand and holding the torch in the other hand

>Stock HHKB is already perfection.
This to say the truth
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>>52475909
Not the guy you're replying to, but recycling old keyboards ftw
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>>52475779
Zealios are literally made by gateron
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>>52475962
>say
Tell*

Mamma mia!
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>>52475985

And they costs 2-3x as much as a normal gateron switch.

Oh, and they have numerous production issues, and fail due to heat when soldered.
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>>52475969
hnnnng I want those caps. I only got shitty TaiHao DS for my Matias board :(
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>>52475941
I did it. It just didn't seem to do anything different than a vanilla left-click.
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>>52476119
I'm in the same boat as you. At least they were cheap I guess.
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What's the best way to get old mechanical keyboards aside from ebay?
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>>52476431
Craigslist, goodwill's, thrift stores, computer recycle centers etc.
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>>52476457
you won't find anything at thrift stores
they get weeded out and resold to computer recyclers because they're much more lucrative than the shit that actually makes it to thrift store shelves.
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>>52467347
What keyboard is that in the OP post?
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>>52471080
Of course, Anon-kun.

Duck Light Pad with clears.
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>>52475779
Not sure if you know it, but Zealios are literally Gateron Browns with small adjustments, as I said in my other post.

I already use Gateron on nearly everything now because of the plastic, and just upgrade the springs to make them more comfortable. I can't recommend Cherry switches anymore because of how rough they are. It wasn't something that bothered me until I started using Gaterons for a review, but it's instantly noticeable now.

It's not worth paying the premium an inferior product, sure, but if we're talking about pure specs, Cherry switches use a rough plastic for a moving part, where Gateron uses a smoother plastic on all of their switches.

Also worth mentioning that this is a hobby, so you're basically going into a RC shack and saying that you should only buy a Phantom DJI because the rest are for people who don't get real work done. People who get real work done enjoy spending money on their hobby, and we're lucky to have a hobby that coincides with our work, in this case.

I think Plancks are shit too, but I'm sure some people enjoy playing around with them. I have no idea what a "Poser" would even be in this community. I'd guess a "Poser" would be the people who get pissed-off when other people prefer different switches than themselves.

/rant
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I use a Filco Majestouch 2 with browns and a white PBT "ninja" keycaps.

I also have these two things; both with browns.
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>>52477614

Is that round thing a Qi charger? Thick as fuck.
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>>52477614
Pics of internals please
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>>52467347
I can get this for £40 with Cherry MX blue
is it any good?
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Do Topre's just feel like a nice rubberdome or are they actually the king of keyboards? Or is this all just weebshit.
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>>52476074
agreed
>>52477523
nope, you are convincing yourself there is more of a difference because you are invested in there actually being a difference

A good set of Gateron Clears bought at the inexpensive price that they should be are such an amazing step up from most office keyboards and are really all you need.

Anyone with "artisan" novelty keycaps shouldn't be taken seriously. They're opinions are worthless. (I have no novelty keycaps)
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>>52476503
Found my m13 at a thrift store.
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>>52478212
Year
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>>52478255
>They're
fuck ... you know I meant to type Their. Fucking novelty keycaps!!!
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>>52477977
Yeah, its a cheap one I got from Amazon; are the usually thinner?

This is a shot of the underside of the threekeyboard. I haven't taken the nono apart yet..
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>>52478355
>Yeah, its a cheap one I got from Amazon; are the usually thinner?

Mine is about a third the thickness.
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>>52478315
K. I'll probably replace the keycaps cause it's QWERTZ and is a retarded font
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>>52478177
see
>>52478355

(I didn't quote)
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>>52478402
What kind is it? I don't mind this, since it was so cheap, but a thinner one would be nicer...
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>>52475244
Fuck man. Nice model m.

It's kinda bittersweet getting one after having spent so much time tinkering with new Cherry MX keyboards. I like loud clacky keyboards with a big switch feel, so my Model M is pretty much the end of the road for me with this whole hobby
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>>52478255
I enjoy Gateron Clears, but they're fully linear and too light for me.

I don't have a monetary bias toward Zealios, as I don't tend to buy them, but they're my favourite recommendation for somebody who just wants the best all-around switch. I normally make my own, but I'd agree that I am probably biased toward them in other ways.

I also despise novelty keycaps, they're uncomfortable to use, they make the keyboard look grotesque, and they cost an arm for some shitty piece of plastic, but I don't think that all people who own them have invalid opinions.

I generally prefer function over everything else; standard, non RGB, non colourful keyboards, usually just the nice white/grey combo, but I don't disregard the opinion of somebody who uses anything other than that.

You seem to have the thought in your head that your opinion is absolute, and that anybody with a different opinion is some neckbeard guarding the bridge. It sounds to me like you're the type of person who goes onto PC forums and complains that nobody's using an iMac, rather than trying both and being comfortable with the fact that somebody else prefers something which you don't.

If you're saying the there's no difference from Zealios and Gateron Browns, you're wrong, if you're saying there's no difference, you're wrong, and if you're saying that X switch is perfect or that X switch is the worst, you're wrong, as you can't pass off an opinion as fact.
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I used a Ducky Zero for a while, then the Shine 4 for a while and then preordered the Year of the Goat and use that now. It was the first full sized white case with RGB lighting that I thought looked good and I am a huge Chinaboo so I really liked the Yang near the arrow keys and the secondary Yang escape keycap they give you. Its super rice and I love it.
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how can i make 200g switches
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Microcentre has these for 30 bucks

http://www.microcenter.com/product/438201/Demon_King_Mechanical_Gaming_Keyboard_-_Blue_Switch

I can expense out office supplies to around that much, haven't used January's budget at all, should I, or are they total trash?
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>>52478645

EC Technology is the manufacturer. It is only 6mm thick.

No idea if it will be easy to find, seems to be a cheap chinese knockoff brand.
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>>52478958
Get a 200g spring. Or try stacking a bunch of springs in a switch.

Or get gateron yellows, they're the closest you will get.
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>>52478962
>blue switch

It doesn't even name a brand of switch. Given that and the price, it's probably horribly shit quality.
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>>52479045
>Or get gateron yellows, they're the closest you will get.

>60 cn switch
>closest you would get

There are considerably stiffer springs in other switches.
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>>52479115
It apparently bottoms out at 170 grams.
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>>52472785
le reddit has arrived xD
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>>52473824
>yuck
kill yourself
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