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/mkg/ - stock HHKB edition

>Buyer's Guide:
http://pastebin.com/QJD7fSGU

>Where to Buy:
http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL

>FAQs:
http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtKp

Old Thread >>52467347
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>>52479136

What? No.

They bottom out lighter than Gateron Blacks.

http://imgur.com/a/g1f0A
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Best Cherry switch for gaming?
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>>52479230
Switches are entirely subjective. There is no "best" switch for anything. Get a switch tester to see which you prefer.
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>>52479225
Huh, interesting.

This here suggests otherwise.

http://imgur.com/a/39DS8
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>>52479336

No idea what is up with that switch, but that is the only place I have seen one have that insane of a bottom out.
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>>52479153
the HHKB is shit

why is this being shilled ?
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>>52479393

Buyers remorse.

If you listen to the shills, they keep saying how the HHKB is something most normals can't afford.

In reality the HHKB is a rather cheap board, they are just trying to justify that feeling of wasting what little money they have.
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>>52479153
What's the attraction to the HHKB compared to something like a Realforce?
From what I have heard the HHKB lacks things like a metal back plate and the stock kepcaps are meh. Do people buy it purely for the form factor?
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>2016
>still falling for the mechanical keyboard meme

kek
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>>52479429
The stock keycaps are pretty much the same with the realforce. I may be mistaken on this, but it doesn't feel or sound like I'm ever hitting the plate with the keycaps like I would with my cherry board. I'm quite sure that the switch bottoms out before the keycaps reach the plate.

The plastic plate is actually often seen as a plus since it gives the HHKB the characteristic sound that it's known for.

I'd say it's the form factor and the aesthetics. I was going to get a realforce until I noticed that I could easily do away with the function and arrow keys.
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plz when will it arrive?
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>>52479797
in 3 years
(yay unbanned finally)
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Daily reminder that if you bought browns you just bought shitty clears and wasted your money for an imperfect product.
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>>52480084
Fuck off.
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>>52480084
with the keyboard I want it's either Browns or Reds

send help
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>>52480084
reminder that if you bought cherry mx switches
you bought meme switches
get getaron or zealios or topre or alps or something like that for good switches
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>>52480186
just build your own.
>>52480084
implying clears are any better. In order to make them acceptable you got to mod them to ergo clears.
All stock Cherrys are pretty shit.
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What mechanical keyboard do you recommend to play Frets on Fire ? Something with good access to the F1-5 keys and a decent Enter key.
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>>52479225
>>52479336
They changed the weight of the spring. The crazy high resistance seems to be only found on the early production versions of the switch. All the ones on massdrop since have been lighter than black as far as I've seen.
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is /g/ going to endure the wait for their granite keycaps?
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>>52480381
Granite is a meme set.
It's literally "Hey this is going to be the last run of granite ever I promise this time :^)" over and over again.
It's not even a particularly impressive set to begin with, people just bandwagon it hard.
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>>52480219
Doing ergo-clears is usually cheaper than buying zealios. They are both great tho, yet I could feel a little more wobble on my zealios compared to my 62g clears.
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Where are some of the best places to buy a blank set of PBT keycaps?
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>>52480411
I was talking about the idea
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>>52479225
The Gateron Yellow problem was either because there were knockoffs or because the initial production had major defects. Either way, a good portion of people now have yellows with absurd bottom-out resistances. It was so inconsistent that some retailers wouldn't offer them as options, because nobody had the right information about them.

I'm a big fan of Gateron, but even if the initial ones purchased were knockoffs, they should have been able to reign in all the confusion and misinformation and handle the situation. They didn't do either, so now nobody seems to have a good understanding of the gat yellow switches.
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>>52480410
I think part of it's popularity stems from the fact that there is all kinds of layouts accommodated for and that there's a whole bunch of add-on packs.

And it's actually good quality PBT too. There's almost no good quality PBT sets in ISO layouts.
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>>52480463
Shadovved groupbuy that is running on geekhack. Gateron PBT is probably the best blank PBT you can get.
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>>52480483
>And it's actually good quality PBT too
It's warped as hell, just like every other SP PBT set.
SP is only good at making ABS SA, since they're shiny to begin with so the fact that they're ABS doesn't matter.
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>>52480510
This.

I have a granite set that looks ok, yet all caps are a little bit warped.
I have seen some sets that are warped like hell, much worse than mine, would be pretty pissed if I received something like that.
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Does anyone have any comments on how this will be:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01A9QOLV8?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A1WJVTKEL9JASD

I want a small cheapish mechanical to travel with, and if it breaks/gets nicked I won't be too heartbroken over thirty quid.

If anyone can rec a small kb under £50 otherwise, Im all ears
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what do you guys think of this?

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1371

im looking for browns with a key layout like this, specifically the F keys above their numerical value.. but this seems to be the page's specific prodcut, unless i'm wrong? may be a little shotty
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>>52480622
>>52480084
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>>52480488
Hope my light gray/dark gray set looks as nice as I think it will.
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>>52480591
weird switches but they are better than kailh

>>52480622
also you do realize this are some weird knockoff cherry switches right?
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/2uk4pk/enuf_with_the_moaning_some_keyboard_science_on/
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I was told to get a Ducky Zero TKL but I cannot find this keyboard in Australia, any thing else that could be a replacement for this keyboard?

Buying from mechkb.com
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>>52480679
people like them over cherry
so you cant really say anything
I dont think you even have tried them
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>>52480688
i went with light grey/dark grey too anon, it should be a nice refrence to classic light grey/ beige sets but look better on black keyboards.
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>>52479336
>40% prototype
top fucking kek talk about falling for a meme
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>>52480813
My case is white though.

Maybe I should go with milk/light gray instead
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>>52479424
Couldn't agree more. I bought an HHKB Pro 2 and couldn't believe how over-hyped it was. I was lucky to have purchased it on Amazon, but it genuinely felt just like a regular keyboard. It had a bit of a quality feel to it, I guess, but it was no different than any other rubberdome I've used.

If anybody's really itching to try one, buy it from Amazon and know that you have two weeks to return it if you don't like it, that way you're at least getting rid of the cost-justification.

They aren't horrible keyboards, they're just not worth the cost of them, nor are they worth the hype that people give them.

If I could find both an HHKB Pro 2 and a GH60 and they both cost $100, I'd buy the GH60, even though the GH60 costs less to buy in normal circumstances. Though, I guess it would make more sense to buy the Pro 2 and sell it, but I'm speaking as if they both always costed the same amount.
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>>52480757
One of the coolermaster TKL boards would be fine, but I don't know what's available to you.
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>>52480693
yes but having the f keys above their number is important to me.. would you guys recommend the noppoo choc mini? the reviews seem shit
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>>52480282
i recommend luatic rave 2
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>>52480957
I dont know about the noppoo
you might want to look at the keycool 84 too
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>>52481119
i've looked high and low for the keycool 84, no one seems to have it anymore
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>>52480878
if you go with that scheme seriously consider the extra cash for the dyesubbed ones from the group buy. they look great i just dont think they go well with a black case.
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>>52481128
Ay sorry man, I cant help you gl seeking
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are the cherry stabilizers in leopold boards really modified from the factory or are poeople lying because of buyers remorse. Tried a kul es-87 because i fell for the clears meme and the modifiers felt like wet mush. seen a few people claming the leopolds are somehow different.
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>>52481265
>clears are a meme
They are actually tactile browns? What's to hate m8.
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>>52480591
looks good for the price, anyone know anything about this bad boi
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>>52481428
Browns are tactile. Clears are too heavy without modification. To me they feel significantly more muddy and less crisp then browns and my typing accuracy was actually reduced. If you enjoy pounding on your keyboard like a gorilla then clears are for you.
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>>52481607
Browns feel like they have zero tactillity to them for me, they practically feel linear, I'm actually between clears and topre's right now, any suggestions?
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>>52481646
Matias Quiet Click. Seriously.
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>>52481673
I second this.
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>>52481673
>>52481735
What TKL boards that don't look dirt ugly are there? Also are there any replacement keycaps, I enjoy the colored caps meme.
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>TFW HHKB still hasn't arrived in the mail
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>>52481774
KBP V80 Matias.
There are 100% fitting Tai Hao Dolch, Olivetti and white on black doubleshot keycaps.
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>HHKB looks cool
>want to try topre
>the control key is at caps lock
>no caps lock key
>backspace isnt at the top right
how do you even use it
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>>52481646
well i cant speak for the poker but all the tenkeyless boards with clears are garbage. The kul es-87 pings pretty badly and fucking resonates like a tuning fork for some godawful reason and apparently the code also pings really badly.
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>>52481842
you dont

you just take pictures of it
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>>52481842
I ordered an HHKB and I think it's perfectly fine. I'm currently on a Ducky Shine 2 so I used a dip switch to swap the ctrl and caps keys around so I can get used to that layout. You can get hasu's controller (I ordered one too) which allows you to fully reprogram the keyboard to your liking.
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>>52481842
You actually USE caps lock? Why? It's just as easy to hold down shift unless you're typing paragraphs in all caps, which seems like a pretty minor edge case. I've been remapping it to Ctrl for years because the Ctrl key positions on normal keyboards are awkward pinky-stretching shit.

The backspace position feels better than it does on normal QWERTY does, it's really comfy after getting used to it.
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>>52481842
maybe get a Leopold
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>>52481842
In what scenario is capslock important to you?
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>>52481842
it's not 2004 anymore. no one uses caps lock.
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>>52481871
how do people not realize this is what hhkb is for?
mfw
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>>52481774
If you can get a hand on a KUL ES 87 it seems like a favorite. As a 60% owner looking at TKL as a second board, my next choices would be a filco majestic 2 then the kbparadise V80 (currently on massdrop).
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>>52481910
>Ctrl key positions on normal keyboards are awkward pinky-stretching shit.
I use the palm of my hand. Pretty easy to do.
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>>52481964
That's pretty unworkable on any kind of laptop keyboard
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my first ever /mkg/ related purchase

slow but steady, amirite?
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>>52482016
Oh yeah, my laptop chicklet is awful. I'm always pressing Fn too, since it's in the bottom-leftmost position. Fuck, thinking about it makes me angry.
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>>52482020
What's you'r preference?
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>>52482020
Hey, if you can't try out boards in person, you might as well worth with something.
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>>52482041
don't know yet
just closed the deal
should be here on Tuesday

>>52482048
true
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What's wrong with the corsair k70? Not hip enough?
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>>52482020
nice i just ordered the v2 of that today
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>>52482088
no idea
considering getting a K70 RGB with Browns, since they discontinued it with Blues

>>52482112
sweet
what's the difference? more switches?
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ayy
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>>52481802
>>52481943
>KBP V80 Matias.
I actually have an old Dell AT101W, with Alps, does it feek better than those shits? They just felt gritty if anything.
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>>52480591
Not a huge fan of the switches, but it's a good price for what it is. You should be able to swap out the switches for Gateron or Cherrys when you get the cash, though.
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Will there ever be a cross between the Pok3r and HHKB? I am in love with my Pok3r but I also really enjoyed typing on a friend's Novatouch.

I heard recently that the HHKB doesn't have a metal plate in it, unlike the realforce boards, and that some people actually like it more for this reason. I'm not sure how good I am at telling the difference between plate/no plate (or rather knowing it's the reason I prefer one board over another). Does the Novatouch have a plate? Would a 60% Novatouch be like a HHKB?

Found some reddit guide for programming the Pok3r to use a layout like the HHKB when I was searching DuckDuckGo for neat ideas on what to program the Pok3r to do. I did it to my layer 2 or 3. Haven't really made the switch yet, because fucking up muscle memory is always pretty jarring and I can't remember where I changed all the modifiers to. I also hate that there's constantly an LED on if you're not in the main layer.
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>>52482121
i think it just trades the clear switch for a topre switch
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>>52482255
nice meme faggot
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>>52479230
Try out greens and clears.
>>52479424
>poorfag argument
I'm not mad about it being shilled and I don't own one, but I hate it when people assume someone's amount of money is related to their opinion on something. Do you actually think that or are you just trying to anger people? I consider this hobby (mechanical keyboards) to be fairly expensive, and I own multiple boards myself. I still consider myself pretty poor, though.
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>>52482306
thx buddy
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>>52480084
Not a fan of either of those switches, just wanted to say that after typing on Blues for a few years and then getting a new board with Greens in the last year, I feel like I really did just get an imperfect product originally by getting Blues.
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>>52482267
What color alps?
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>>52480282
ah I love that game . I never really got the hang of holding it like a guitar, though. I actually just pressed the keys normally. On that note, I'd recommend something programmable like a Pok3r so that you could press whatever keys you want. (unless the game lets you change the bindings)
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>>52482267
Matias don't feel gritty. Maybe you should clean your Dell, but black alps are reported to feel a little unclean anyway.
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>>52482048
English plz
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>>52482020
Nice. I bought this today too.
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>>52482088
Just got a K70 MX Blue, and I'm loving it so far.


Wish the K70 RGB had Blue switches...
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>>52481857
Is there any full size or TKL keyboard with clears that doesn't ping like hell? Poker 3 with clears sounds amazing in Youtube videos unlike my WASD V2, but I'm not into meme layouts.
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>>52482791
How do you like your WASD V2 clear, I was literally looking at getting one today.
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>>52480410
>It's literally "Hey this is going to be the last run of granite ever I promise this time :^)" over and over again.
I hate Matt3o so much for that crap. On top of that, he splits the keysets into packages where you end up needing to buy at least 3 of them, and then you fall into the "escalation of commitment" trap.

Since you needed to buy an extra package just to get your last 3 remaining keys, you figure you may as well complete that set, otherwise you're just spending way a ton of money on 3 keys. So then you have 4 sets, but you're missing keys to complete another layout, so then you buy another package and have 5, etc. etc.

The other annoying part is that all he did was slightly change the legends. Ordering the text-modifiers option leaves you with a set that looks nearly identical to the one that's already sold by SP [see "DSA Stock Sublimated Keycap Sets"].

He even makes the damn arrow keys all-text, so if you order a text-mod option, you get these funky looking arrow keys that don't have symbols - he should have at least offered the option to change that one small thing.

My final gripe is that everybody buying the ISO 'Enter' key is getting screwed. It's not the same layout as the rest of the set. IIRC, the 'Enter' key is in the DCS profile, while the rest of the set is DSA. Pretty ridiculous of SP to have not invested in that mould by now, and it's not listed in the Massdrop page that they're getting a different 'Enter' key than they're expecting.

The major benefit to his set, though, is that it accommodates so many different layouts. With the "Pro" and "Extreme" mod packs, you can dress virtually any layout, and have a pretty decent looking keyboard.

With the group buy, it also ends up slightly cheaper than the regular SP set. The standard alpha and mod packs come out to 80 bucks from SP, where the same packs from Matt3o come out to 60, so it's not terrible in that regard.

Knowing this, I still spent 150 on 6 packages, could be worse
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>>52482821
I can compare it with my MX blue Filco.

Pros:
>Nice one handed multimedia shortcuts
>Removable cable
>More silent than blues
>Actuation point and reset point are about the same

Cons:
>Pings noticeably
>Build quality is not as good as Filco (there's a small gap between the top and bottom halves of the case)
>Still not as tactile as blues (though better than browns)

It made me realize that I took my Filco for granted. But the WASD V2 is still a pretty good board.
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>>52482791
Anyone? Im not finding any tenkeyless boards with clears that are not the kul or the code. Bonus points if it has costar stabilizers.
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>>52483122
Well this is interesting because my current keyboard is a Filco TKL blues :^) Thanks for the info.
Right now I'm between 3 keyboards
>WASD V2 Clears
>KBP V80 Matias Quiet Click
>CM Novatouch TKL
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>>52481607
cork sniffer detected
DO YOU EVEN TYPE?
>>52482830
>I still spent 150 on 6 packages, could be worse
You could be spending your days outside in the sunshine with a woman.
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>>52483177
Kek. Cheers bro.

I tried 45g Topre switches yesterday, and although they didn't exactly blow my mind away, it was a strangely pleasant typing experience. They felt like what browns should've been: light and tactile. They're still a bit too mushy for me, so I imagine 55g would be clears done right. Hope this helps.
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My weird ass purchase.

It's a financial keyboard with an integrated trackpad. It uses two PCBs, one for the trackpad portion and one for the 60% board portion. The PS2 ports are attached to the trackpad PCB and there is some sort of soldered pinout connecting the two PCBs. I it possible to solder a PS2 cable directly to the pinout?

It has MX Blues and feels quite nice to type on, but it doesn't hold a candle to my two alps boards or my model M.

I don't know what you what you Cherry users are smoking. These switches are far nicer than domes, but they are nothing compared to Alps switches and crap compared to buckling springs.
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>>52483416
>my two alps boards
What boards do you have?
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>>52480381
Yeah. I plan to buy a blank wasd keyboard to put them on.
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>>52480591
Oh god I hope I'm not too late.
Qisan; is a fake version of that board, the real one was on mass-drop. check ebay and comments from ebay negative reviews.
Notice the branding does not fit thee name of the company.
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>>52483416
thats pretty fucking bomb anon
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>>52483188
>You could be spending your days outside in the sunshine with a woman.
Dream big, young one. Don't let anybody take those dreams away.

Kidding. You're totally right, though. I don't get out in the sun often, but I'm married and have a beautiful wife who helps me with my projects, so I've got that going for me.

It's also been pretty chilly in Cali over the last few months, so there hasn't been great weather for it. Excuses excuses.
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>>52483416
The rare pepe among keyboards
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whats the best full rgb blue switch keyboard that I can find?
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why is it literally impossible to find any keyboard I want
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>>52483380
"What browns should have been" is what I was hoping clears were like. I just want a quiet blueish feeling switch. Is the Topre meme really what I need in my life.
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>>52483560
Build your own, anon.
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>>52483444
AT101W and AEKII
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>>52479153
How's the zenfone treating ya m8?
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>>52483444
I should elaborate - I enjoy using MX Blues, but they feel worse and sound worse than Alps and buckling springs. they feel like clicking a toy or something.
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Where can I acquire three replacement brown switches for a backlit coolermaster quickfire tk?
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>>52483655
mechanicalkeyboards dot com
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>>52483612
Nice, I've been meaning to find an AEKII to use the caps from.
I have an KB-101A and the caps are in pretty bad shape.
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>>52482679
Worth = work
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>>52483703
I've undampened, click-ified and slightly strengthened the switches so they actuate at a slightly higher force. I thought the dampened switches would feel nice, but they just don't. I'm planning on soldering a teensy to the ADB joints to I can use it with modern computers.
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>>52482255
Thought you were going to retake the picture, given the HAIR.
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>>52483792
nah. lazy.
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>>52483673
Thanks, m8.

Just to make sure, are these https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=708 pic related just without the led installed or do I need something else?
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>>52483597
I mean in stock

But that works too
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>>52483816
what teal caps are those?
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>>52484090
Looks right if you just need some replacement MX Browns, but they won't have any LEDs. You'll have to buy them separately.

FYI, you should give an Alps board a shot. Matias makes some good boards that I think you can find in Fry's. Alps and Alps style switches just sound "right" to me; they have a deep, solid thock and a satisfying click that just sounds more mature than Cherry switches.
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>>52484250
1976

http://keypuller.com/ninteenseventysix/
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>>52484268
nice wish they had a set without the brown but still dope.
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>>52483789
>click-ified and slightly strengthened the switches
Same, One of the things I like about alps is that you can just do that so easily to them.
I think I might try to put a teensy on mine now that you mention it.
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Best place to get some keycaps for a K70 RGB?
In Europe if possible.
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>>52484329
ha

ha
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>>52484368
w-what?
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>>52484266
I really like my board. It's just that a couple of the buttons feel... off. Everything works though so I might just ignore it since I hardly use the number pad. I can't desolder anything until I replace my soldering iron so I can't tell, but can my current leds be reused? They work fine as is. I'm new to mechanical keyboards and I was under the impression that backlit switches were a different part than non backlit ones.

Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it.
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>>52484406
>I was under the impression that backlit switches were a different part than non backlit ones.
Nope. The LED leads just go down through the switch to the PCB.
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>>52484250
what >>52484268
said
and yeah, I wish there was a full teal set too.
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>>52484458
Damn those are some juicy looking keys haha.
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what do you think of the meme switches /g/?
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>>52484458
Why is that keyboard on rocks? I fucking swear you mechanical keyboard hipsters are the worst.
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>>52484519
$5,000 keyboard with metal case on gravelly concrete for your viewing pleasure ;)
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>>52484519
because rock garden. it's ok to be poor anon.
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>>52484614
>piss cheap chinese replica set
>one of the cheapest aluminum cases ever
pfft
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>>52484628
was curious how they'd look.
I'd rather spend money on keeping my house looking nice tho.
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>>52484508
I like them.

I don't know what you mean by "meme", though.
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I kinda like the way the Granite's look on a white fox (which I bought) look, should I get them senpai?
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>>52484801

whoops
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>>52484801
Do you like DSA?
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>>52484844

never tried them.
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>>52484855
Well, there are worse ways to find out, I suppose.

Don't buy too many child kits in case you hate it, but there will probably be a resell market for them in the event that you do.
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I am looking for a plate like the picture. I'd like to find a full 104 plate if possible. I made a custom single hand board before but I etched a PCB and surface mounted the switches. So they weren't all that straight and nice looking. I want to make a a full keyboard this time so I need perfect alignment.

Anyone know where one can buy these?
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>>52484909
So are you saying you want a laser-cut, 100%, steel plate? There are lots of 60% out there, and some TKL GBs come and go. I don't know of any fullsize currently running - they aren't the most popular.
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>>52484823
I like how matt3o made it so you need to buy 4 kits to complete his "perfect" keyboard layout.
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Does anyone here have a lolita spyder?

I'm split between that one and a cm quickfire rapid.
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Keyboard/Mouse setup
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>>52482255
Don't you hate the print on the backspace key? I have the same issue on mine
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>>52484983
A 60% would be ok if I can't get ahold of a 100%. This is just for the sake of project. It also doesn't need to be steel. Aluminum or plexiglass would work just as well.
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>>52485020
that and the fact they didn't include deep dishes or no bumps on F and J
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>>52485064
Winkeyless.kr and Gon's offer full cases.

OLKB offers custom plates.

Mechanicalkeyboards.com has a plate for a Phantom.

Group buys often crop up. You just missed one from LeandreN. Speaking of, I think he normally offers 60% plates on his site, but it seems to be down.
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Apart from the enter bar are there any other size differences between ISO and Ansi keycaps

Just bought a set and realized they were ANSI type

They're blank memecaps so markings don't matter
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>>52485004

Both are good keyboards. I'd go with the quick fire rapid. They could both use some nice key caps btw.
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I hear some bitching about the quality of previous Granite runs. Anyone have experience / pictures of how bad it is?

After shipping it'd cost as much as my keyboard here so kinda iffy
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>>52482830

SP does have an ISO DSA enter mold.

Unfortubately the person who payed for tha tmold to include it in their set will not let anyone else use it.

But the thing is that at the amount of sets Granite is going to sell, there is no reason for matt3o NOT to get his own enter made. Spread over so many sets the peice would be miniscule.
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>>52482267

It depends on what condition and type of black alps
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>>52482311
>som asks what cherry is best for gaming
>recommrnd green or clear
Yo how about no
If you do boy games you need a lighter faster responding switch fosho
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>>52479230
Try before you buy

many like reds, because they're light and don't make much noise, but I and many others prefer blues for there good feedback

Go to a store and test some keyboards, or buy a switch tester off of the internet
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>>52486415
>>52479230
I personally love blues but people seem to think they're not good for gaming because they "double press" them. I don't know how it's possible to not realize you pressed a key the first time with the sound and feel of blue keys.
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>>52486513
I think they mean that it's harder to double tap due to the slightly higher reset point. I game on blues too, though I'm currently deciding whether to use blues or clears for my main keyboard.
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Do i commit to the meme senpai? Or do I get something else in this price range?
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>>52486847
I have it and its pretty dank.
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>>52486847
>Clear
You're memeing to hard
Get a proper switch
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>>52479797
I ordered mine nearly a month ago, I have no idea what those guys are doing.
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>>52486940
what might you suggest friend
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>>52486940
I bet you havent even tried shit
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Can someone recommend me a keyboard? It should be be as light (weight wise) as possible with red switches or something that's requires the least actuation possible. <$200
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>>52487203
To reiterate it should be weigh little, red switches or liter, 82 keys.
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Just got my Ducky One with Blue Switches. So far I am enjoying it. Was also curious if I was to replace the keycaps how well would the backlighting come through?
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>>52487451
Just get the vortex doublt shot PBT's for backlit. Or if you want the colored meme caps then you'll have to deal with no proper backlighting.
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>>52479153
HHKB is not a mechanical keyboard dipshit.
If you think it is a mechanical keyboard then the term "mechanical keyboard" applies to all keyboards.
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>>52487474
Fine, capacitive switch :^) congrats sperg ferguson.
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>>52487511
>Fine, capacitive switch
That is not the distinction. The distinction between "mechanical keyboards" and "regular keyboards" is that "regular keyboards" use rubber dome switches. Topre keyboards also use rubber dome switches which are just spring loaded and fancier.
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>>52487242
I found this one but it's never in stock. So hard to find minimalist keyboards with red switches that aren't riced to shit.

http://www.amazon.com/Choc-Mechanical-Keyboard-Gateron-Switches/dp/B014FGL4QI
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>>52487615
Except it doesn't use the rubber dome to complete the circuit, it has a rubber dome in it yes, but the rubber dome literally isn't even doing anything similar to what it does it a regular rubber domey keyboard.
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>>52486415
I didn't wanna get into the fact that perpetuating the stereotypes that certain switches are better for "gaming" or "typing" is fucking annoying so I just skipped to my recommendation.
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>>52486986
not him, but Greens

I have a Pok3r with Greens and it's amazing.
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>>52487615
membrane keyboard =/= rubber dome keyboard

there's no good reason to exclude the Model M or topre boards in mech keyboard discussion
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I'm tempted to buy this team

Also
>bought a set of blank caps but the spacebar doesn't fit my Leopold :^)
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Ok so this is a sexy sounding board. If I got a POK3R with clears, could a keycap change make this sound happen? Even something similar would be nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fz5zcRogFfg
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>>52487683
>>52487636
What part of the topre switch is more mechanical than a regular rubber dome membrane keyboard? Would springloading a 'regular keyboard' qualify it as a mechanical keyboard?
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>>52487756
those are ergo clears, not just mx clears, cameron
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>>52487781
No.
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>>52487781
What would you call topre's then? What do they have similar to a membrane? They have rubber domes but they don't active the switch so you can't call it a rubber dome, it has a slider but no mechanical mechanism so can you call it mechanical?

Topre's fall into a grey zone senpai, better to just lump them in with mechs.
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>>52486661

I use greens for gaming.

I have had no issues using them to game.

I wonder if thw dtiffer spring makes the reset quicker?
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>>52487807
So, what you're saying is that it will take more work than I'd hoped to get this sound.

Also I should really change my name on there.
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can anyone rec me
-fullsize board
-red switches
-detachable usb
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>>52487781
And what part of a cherry MX board specifically qualifies it as "mechanical"?
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>>52488050
>shit taste
>shit taste
>standard feature
No. I don't believe you've even looked yet.
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>>52487700
I have it, it's pretty nice
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>>52487700
Do it.
Join the good feeling of oneness master race.
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Is this a meme?
http://m.shopbot.ca/pp-steelseries-apex-m800-steelseries-price-522229.html
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>>52487700

Newegg has the full Novatouch for $159 - $20 rebate.

I get that people want to replace the keys, but if you don't already have them on hand I'd just pay the extra $10 to have keycaps right off the bat.
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>>52488253

Everything SteelSeries makes is a dumb meme device. Also, shitty and prone to breaking.
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>>52488308
How do you feel about the rival 100 I was interested in an "optical" mouse since the thumb buttons on my Intellimouse 3.0 went out.

Do steel series mice have shit sensors?
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>>52488106
Asking myself this too
topre has the things that cherry got but also a rubberdome
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>>52487657
Understandable
for someone like me, I agree, id pick those too
But on a pro level gaming input lag does matter
So I do not recommend that to a "serious" gamer
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>>52488470
the problem with Rivals are the rubber sides
I recommend Zowie EC2-A if you like the MS 3.0
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>>52488905
EC1-A* the 2 is smaller
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Is there a mod that stops the top half of the Topre Realforce case from sliding around?
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>>52480957
I have a choc mini. Only problem I have is that it isn't level so I had to tape paper under a foot.

Where are you reading the reviews?
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Guys is this a good keyboard? I need a tenkyless and i like the feel of scissor switches. Pic related, its rapoo e9050
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>clicky switches
Why would anyone want something so loud it can be heard through your headphones?

>>52488905
This was fixed a while back
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>>52486045
For this current round of Granite, dividing the $5000 mould cost over the given current numbers of alpha sets, it's about $5.4.
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ERGODOX ON MASSDROP
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>>52490089
why would 3000 ansi users have to share the cost of the ISO enter mold.

you guys are retarded.

the guys who got the iso enter are probably less than 500
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>>52490128
Group buys spread out the cost of new moulds and legends across all people all the time. Hell, Shadovved is trying to do that right now with the easypbt buy.

Also, it's not thousands of different people in this GB:
http://www.massdrop.community/mechkeys/granite/index.html
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>Elven Tongue Kit 126 joined

can't wait for meme photos
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>>52481913
^this
Very happy with mine. Even though typing on blank keycaps is bitch. Looking to get some O-rings as well.
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>>52490090
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>>52490179
>Looking to get some O-rings as well.
so you don't have a topre leopold.

because orings are useless on topre, and those two anons were talking about topre.
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One of the keys of my spacesaver M (right arrow) just stopped working. I thought these things were supposed to be practically indestructible.

I removed the cap and it doesn't look dirty or anything.

Wat do?
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>>52490380
>I thought these things were supposed to be practically indestructible.
Model Ms are.
Unicomp are meme trash for nostalgics.
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>>52490395
Are they supposed to be made with the same process? Googling it, it seem to be a common issue. Shit.
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>>52485310
This is exactly what I am looking for. Thanks anon.
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>>52489670
u sure? I had a private one from like summer spring 2014 and one for work winter 2014-15
both have the problem, and at the time ppl said it was fixed
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>>52490090
So much meme
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Reminder that the ergodox is a nice keyboard but you could easily make one cheap to your own handsize
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What keyboard wrist rest do you have or is that just a meme?
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>get srs at work
>mkg lasts 18 hours

holy fuck I must be the king of shitposting!
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>>52491789
it isnt a big meme
just the wooden expensive ones are meme af
you could use like towels for wristrest and it would work just fine if not better
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>>52479153
you should keep it in a cage if you bring it out on the balcony
It might fly away
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>>52491301
Depending on your definition of cheap, sure. It'd cost about the same as buying it from Massdrop, and you'd be best making the entire thing out of acrylic to reduce costs. Since a 1.5mm sheet of acrylic isn't going to hold well as a plate, you'd need something like 3..4mm at least, making it a bit thicker, you also wouldn't be able to turn it upside down without the switches falling out.

You could solve that problem by friction-fitting the switches, but that would require ordering multiple boards from your CNC of choice, or at least multiple samples, which would increase your costs.

Ordering a custom PCB would cost too much for something like that, so hand-wiring is your best option, but then you're increasing the thickness a bit more in order to stay on the safe side.

All-in-all, you're probably better off ordering it for 200 bucks. Personally, I'd spend the extra 50 bucks for the keycaps as well. Already spent way too much over this last month though.

Also, they had the most frustrating problems during the last infinity-ergo drop, so I'm going to keep avoiding the drop until they seem to have their shit together.
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Should I get pic related with mx clears or the code TKL with mx clears?
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>>52492648
Depends if you want fancy backlighting or a TKL.

I can vouch for the build quality of the Shine 4. Don't know anything about the CODE though.
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>>52490090
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/infinity-ergodox?utm_placement=2&referer=2YVXYC&mode=guest_open

IT IS TIME TO MEME BOYS
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>>52492959
How would I even game with this?! :S
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>>52492555
I was talking about the idea of the ergodox
Just an ergonomic keyboard
>teensy
>wiring
>selfmade wooden case
Maybe some 3d printed plate for the switches and switches and some keycaps that would make it go up but still cheaper but less solid

I am on my phone so I cant really bring over what I mean in a nice way
But yea waiting for next drop is a smart move but would take long
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>>52493051
Its a typist keyboard phaghout
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>>52493051
The ergodox isn't really targeted towards gaymers, but I don't think that gaymen should be a huge problem. Just put the other keyboard half somewhere where it doesn't get in your way. You only need one hand on the keyboard anyway.
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>>52493051
add a sensor to the bottom of one of them and remove the antislip shit
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If I enjoy browns
Will I love clears?
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>>52493135
depends if you want a harder press
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>>52492959
>250 memes sold already

WAKE ME UP INSIDE!
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>>52493200
GET THEM WHILE THEY'RE HOT
ALL MEMES GONE TOMORROW
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>>52493230
WHAT A TIME TO BE A REAL HUMAN BEAN
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So it seems group-buy for Zealios opened. Just ordered me some 65g tactile switches. It's going to be interesting to see how they are, but I want a bit heavier switches than mx brown, and people say they're a lot smoother than cherrys, so I'm looking forward to them.

It's just my wallet won't be very happy about this... Costed me 61 euros to have 70 shipped to europe. Oh well.

It's going to be fun changing them to my Poker 3.
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>>52493391
Just buy a new board senpai. Desoldering and resoldering is no fun.
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>>52493493
>Just buy a new board senpai
Not him, but I'm quite sure that there aren't any keyboards featuring zealios as stock switches.
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Anyone got any cool designs for WASD keyboards?
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>>52493511
A DIY board. Putting all that work into desoldering switches and then having leftover switches that you can't use is kind of silly. Might as well just pay a bit more and have two keyboards
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>>52493493
Yeah like you'd get a Poker 3 with Zealios. And I just bought this Poker and am loving it. I'm fine with soldering. It's gonna be a lot of pain in the ass I know that, but well, once it's done it's gonna be good.

And yeah as the anon below said, there's no keyboards with stock Zealios.

>>52493534
Well, it's a hobby. Might be silly but whatever. It's cheaper this way and I have something to do with my free-time.
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>mfw people spend hundreds of dollars for zealios memes without trying them
>hope they are good lol

These are the same people that laugh at topre, aren't they?
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>>52493055
Ah, yeah I get what you're saying. A few months ago I actually made a shitty numpad out of cardstock and folded business-cards at work. Everybody was screwing around with some neat precision cutting equipment we'd just received, so it seemed like a good idea.

Regarding the Infinity-Ergo, If they were to iron out all the major problems they've had with the thing, I'd be willing to buy it.

Interconnectivity via USB wasn't a smart move unless they separated the USB connector from the PCB. Everybody with the Ergo-Infinity has been having problems because of the USB3.0 size, minor twists and turns will damage the connection to the PCB.

They also somehow managed to screw up their tolerances and put too much pressure on the LCD, making it change colours when it wasn't supposed to.

Until they've shown that they can have a successful group buy without obvious design flaws, though, I won't be getting involved.
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>>52493583
I tried both, and preferring Topre ended up saving me from spending something around 600 bucks on a GONS.
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I'm looking at the quickfire rapid and I'm seeing at least 3 different designs.
Which is the current one?
Even the amazon page features 2 separate designs, one in matte black with little branding and the other one in silver with gaymer branding up the ass
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>>52493583
Its not hard to know how they are if you already tried clears.
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>>52493693
I 100% agree on you actually
another reason I went for the realforce
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>>52493583
where is the >mfw picture :(
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Friendly reminder that you too, can feel like a topre user for only $10 USD at any thrift store.
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>>52494524
Friendly reminder that this poster has never tried Topre.
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>>52494524
>friendly reminder
atleast say something with it
whats that
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>>52494585
It's a Dell QuietKey. Don't get memed it's the same as any other decent rubber dome.
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>>52494615
yes anon, that's the joke
he's implying that topre feels like a decent rubber dome
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what do you think about this one?
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>>52494666
Dead leds.
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>>52494666
I have it
I love it
no led problems for me
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anyone on /mkg/ with a WASD keyboard?
considering getting one with Blue Switches and PT layout, since it's a non-existent combo in Portugal
do you recommend them?
post pics of it
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>>52494877
Dude we are the same people every thread

If you ask us the same questions you will get the same answers how difficult is it to understand that
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>>52494877
their keyboards are fine
don't buy their keycaps it's ABS shit
get their bare keyboard and buy keycaps somewhere else
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>>52494908
I wonder how many different people come here lol
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>>52494877
Their keycaps are shit. Get it barebones and a nice set of PBT blanks.

or just learn to ANSI, you wont loose anything
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>>52494953
I'd venture 15 regular posters, 20ish lurkers and 6-7 casuals each thread.

Last 3 threads were 70% me samefagging against myself.
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You are now aware of the fact that 4028 people bought a granite set on MD.
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>>52495142
Can't wait for the complaints.
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I considered getting into mechanical keyboards but it just seems like a gigantic time and moneysink considering I actually like the feel of scissor switches over full-size keyboards.

Or I could just do what I did with watches and buy the first one I saw and never think about it again.
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>>52494666
any other options instead of this?
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>>52495228
Start with the best and you will feel no need to "upgrade"
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>>52495142
That's really not true, though. That's just how many different kits have been purchased. If 4,000 people bought multiple kits, Spinelli would probably disappear from the forums for a while.
That dude's so damn greedy it's nuts. I was just checking out the Gateron caps by EnjoyPBT, and Spinelli comments on how the whtie kit with a blue esc and blue arrows was "ripping off" the white-fox keycaps. He'd probably sue if he could.
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>>52495142
>herr tutorial
>on 4chan
>I recognize this douche
What has internet done to me?
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>>52495272
>tricking innocent anon into spending $300 on rubberdome memes
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>>52495272
>the best
>you still feel the need to rice it out
haha
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>>52495273

Not even joking, Matt3o would probably say that this >>52494877 colourscheme is ripping him off. The dude's a greedy bastard.
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>>52495273
It IS a ripoff though.
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I mean seriously
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>>52495388
got damn that is sexy
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>>52495422
It's thick like a brick.
I don't like it.
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>>52495434
send it to me.
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>>52488905
Is this referring to the 100 or the 300? or just the rivals all around?
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>>52495451
Sent ;-)
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>>52495388
The guy is still a hack though, none of his designs are really noteworthy and his circlejerking on GH is unwarranted. Just the alignment of the Whitefox legends makes me cringe.
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>>52495494
He's in his 50s and is a pretty cool guy with a real job outside this hobby.
He isn't in this for the money.

Stop hating T3o-senpai
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>>52484823
>>52495388
>>52495434
What keyboard is this? I like the layout. Looking for something minimal that still has the direction keys.
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>>52495685
Maybe try reading
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So I just checked out hasu's controller.

I can see absolute endgame ahead of me. ABSOLUTE ENDGAME.
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>>52495272
I hate the hhkb layout desu

>>52495388
This layout is shit too, the space between control and the arrow keys really kills it
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>>52495749
90$ meme
At least put a bluetooth dongle and a battery in the case while you are at it
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>>52495886
Zozzled at the wanting a wireless keyboard
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>>52495886
my computer already gets funky with bluetooth sometimes, and a 12 hour battery doesn't really seem worth it.

I mean, even if I'd use it for traveling I could just get one of those extendable cables. I'm mainly interested in controlling my mouse through my keyboard. Imagine how comfy that'd be.
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Have memes gone too far?

YES/NO
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>>52495945
Just get a trackball if you want maximum comfy

>>52495992
I don't understand why anybody over the age of 16 would want a keyboard like this
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>>52485012
Pic of the mousepad, please?
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>>52495361
Alright then, if the keys were green, would it still be a ripoff?
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>>52496011
I already have a magic trackpad. I just want to keep my hands on my keyboard as much as possible when doing stuff.
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>>52496026
Meta keys is same symbol
Legends centered
Etc.

Green would at least trying to fool you, but this is just in your face
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Friendly reminder to strive for efficiency
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>>52495992
I don't think I could even use a backlit unironically
let alone that abomination
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>>52496109
>media consumption device for anything other than media consumption with an attached meme keyboard
>efficiency
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Got myself a Corsair K70 w/ Cherry MX Brown switches for xmas. It's my first mechanical keyboard.

I'm never going back.

What's a good portable one? Preferably w/ Brown switches so I don't piss too many people off.
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>>52481913
where did you get one with a white case? it's perfect
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>>52496239
A pok3r with clears.
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>>52496188
>i7 surface
>media consumption device
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>>52496253
Widebasket on ebay
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>>52496109
>somehow managed to make a hhkb ugly
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>>52479153
I have a predicament. On my local craigslist there is an ad for 6 non working model m keyboards for 75 dollars. I feel like I can get at least two of these running. Should I pull the trigger and buy them?
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>>52496350
Of course you should, fixing stuff is good.
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>>52496257
You're right, it doesn't even succeed at being a media consumption device. It's an abortion that can't do even that properly let alone be able to do actual work.
>using shit hardware with a midget screen for any actual work, especially in a home/office setting where space and portability is not a concern

I literally threw up everywhere
I know you're poor and try to hide it by buying a meme keyboard but you should at least try next time.
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>>52496350
>paying more than 10USD for cum encrusted ancient yellow keyboards to get hipster credits on reddit
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>>52496255
Thanks
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new thread

>>52496465
>>52496465
>>52496465
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>>52496080
http://www.quadibloc.com/comp/kyb03.htm
That's been the standard for some time now, though. I'd understand if he was pissed because they were using some logo or trademarked key, or maybe even if they used the same layout as the WhiteFox (barely reasonable, but still reasonable), but to get upset that two of the key clusters that most frequently have changes in colour are blue, and the legends are centered - it's just nuts. It's hard to find a set of keys that aren't centered nowadays, and the meta symbols used more frequently than ever.

The dude's a nutjob, he's kind and he's a joy to talk to on the forums, but a clear nutjob. He should find a better way to profit off of this, he's clearly talented, but he has no idea how IP works.

I genuinely think he's gong to start targeting two-tone keysets that look "too similar" to his Granite set. I'm willing to bet he'd even find a way to get PMK to stop selling the DSA Stock sub in the granite colour palette.
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>>52496404
12.50 for a cum crusted keyboard isn't that much. Especially if the parts alone could go for double or triple.
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>>52497245
Can't read. Never mind
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