/flt/ - Friendly Linux Thread

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What is Linux (or GNU/Linux for Stallmanists)?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux

Babby's First Linux (What distro to choose?)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

What software does /g/ recommend? (Please DON'T include the so called infographic [it's reddit-tier] -- refer all your recommended software here.)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software

Ricing on Linux (Make it good and functional or make it worse/puke-inducing like those at desktop threads)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux_ricing

A script designed to ease the transition from Windows to Debian
https://gitgud.io/Chocolate-Chip-Computing/DebianNewbieScript

Check out this page for any updates on the OP
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php//flt/

IRC No one uses:
irc://irc.freenode.org:+7000/FriendlyLinux

I just installed xubuntu and I really like it.

Does anyone know any recommended software to install or replace the packed-in stuff? Transmission and Libre are good but I'm unfamiliar with the rest.

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Is there a way to completely remove window decorations for a specific program on xfce or another de? I use keyboard shortcuts to make windows use a quarter or half of the screen and videos keep aspect ratio so the decorations waste space.

>>52296623
See the recommended software link here
>>52296024

>>52296668
Devilspie maybe

>>52296668
see
>>52296756
use

(undecorate)

Running arch here, xfce-power-manager and settings just don't run anymore I try to run them and a window pops up for like a split second and disappears what do

>>52297254
xfce-power-manager had been niggered up for quite some time since they've made it gtk3. It's not something I'd call stable software.

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>Manjaro

>>52297297
What would you reccomend as another power manager then?

Is there a wmctrl or devilspie equivalent for Wayland?

>>52297350
tlp :D

>>52297350
Well I know that mate-power-manager works just fine, but I have no idea how it would integrate with xfce

>>52297368
bruh wayland is only partially supported on gnome and even less on kde.
You won't get fuck shit if there's not a single distro that comes with wayland by default.

>>52296693
>>52296024
Thanks anon
but still, advice please:

X-chat, Hexchat or Smuxi?
Clementine or gmusicbrowser?
Do I need PlayonLinux if Hearthstone and Heroes of the Storm are the only Windows games I'll need access to?
Is Libretro all I need as far as game emus are concerned?

>>52297516
I'm actually running openbox

how do I easily automount my NTFS HDD? Debian here and manually mounting them each time I boot is such a pain.

>>52297876
>X-chat, Hexchat or Smuxi?
I was going to say xchat, but then hexchat is basically an improved version, and actually properly cross-platform.

>>52297876
Those are just opinions, you should just check them out yourself since it'll only take a couple of minutes.
Personally,
>hexchat
>mpd+ncmpcpp or lollypop for when I don't want to look like a sperg
>playonlinux are install scripts, but I think you'll need wine anyway so no harm in using playonlinux
>Probably, I prefer to use separate emulators but it should work fine. Check out /vr/s wiki on emus.

>>52297960
do you use startx or a display manager

if startx add to .xinitrc

if [ -z "$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS" ] && type dbus-launch >/dev/null; then
  eval $(dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session)
fi

>>52297960
how do you usually mount it?

if it's with ntfs-3g, you can change your fstab to automatically mount

>>52297999
I don't think I'm using any of that. I just installed Debian along with MATE.

Is there some software that will automatically do this for me?

>>52297967
Is Smuxi comparable at all? I'm mostly intrigued by the twitter feature it says it supports, but I don't know how customizable that is. Being able to see a txt feed of certain people's twitter posts sounds very appealing.
thanks anon
>>52297979
thanks anon

>>52297960
I just used to disks utility (gnome), clicked the partition and then the "cogs" menu to set it to automount at boot.

My fstab looks like
>/dev/disk/by-uuid/[uuide] /mnt/[name] auto nosuid,nodev,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 0

>>52298023
By the default file manager, I just try to access my HDD's and then I input my root password..

>>52298027
Mate should do it automatically, try Thunar-volman

>>52297876
weechat
cmus or mpd+ncmpcpp

>>52298095
Well, it didn't. I don't have Thunar installed, will definitely try out its volume manager. Thanks guys.

Also, why does ganoo feel smoother than Windows? Everything is snappy, from video playback to web browsing...

How do I install the tewie font?

I tried yaourt tewi
then fc-cache and restarting my wm
it downloaded but it wouldn't change

any steps I am missing?

on arch linux with the i3 wm

Just started using loonix a few days ago, so complete beginner here.

>>52298187
>on arch linux with the i3 wm
>complete beginner here.
Lmao why you people do this is beyond me.
Go figure it out yourself mr smarty pants, it's you who wanted to be the edgiest kid in school.

Good luck with arch.

>>52298184
add it to your autostart config as

 thunar --daemon

probably placebo, but also loonix usually isn't as power hungry as wangblows

>>52298229
not really trying to look cool here, just thought to give arch a try as I heard it's pretty easy to change it to your own liking.

Using i3 since people told me to try it.

>>52298275
Never underestimate how shitty NTFS can be on a hard disk. Quite randomly as well.

>>52298300
>I heard
>people told me to try it.
If people told you to eat your own shit would you do it?

Post the part of i3 config where you configure the font

>>52298187
the fonts are installed but you haven't implemented them.
in youre i3 config

font pango:tewi 9

or something similar

I've been trying to branch out to other distros besides the usual Mint/Ubuntu. So far, they all have one thing in common: they cannot recognize my monitor and thus run at 1152 x 864 or other 4:3 resolution. My monitor is 16:9 1920x1080.

What am I doing wrong to cause this? Both Debian and Trisquel had this issue. I've successfully install Slackware in a VM, but I imagine I'll have the same issue. I've tried a number of solutions online, but none have worked so far.

>>52298313
Thanks, I just realized I forgot about the config

I haven't changed anything in it since I was worried of breaking something

also thanks >>52298339


The reason I tried i3 is because I heard it was one of the most configurable window manager from loonix friends

I decided to use similar programs to them in the likely event I need help fixing a problem

Can't contact them at the moment.

>>52298187
move $FONTFILES ~/.fonts
mkfontdir ~/.fonts
mkfontscale ~/.fonts
xset +fp ~/.fonts
xset fp rehash
fc-cache -vf ~/.fonts

>>52298229
faggot

>>52298359
>they cannot recognize my monitor and thus run at 1152 x 864 or other 4:3 resolution. My monitor is 16:9 1920x1080.
It doesn't properly recognise your GPU.
Are you using a discrete graphics card?

>>52298391
It's not the most configurable, but the most easy to configure since it uses plaintext with bash-like syntax

Here, have a few snippets from my old i3 config
http://pastebin.com/zbicbZNj

>>52298410
I'm using a Radeon HD 6970.
I should note that it could not even detect how it was hooked up (DVI, HDMI, or DP. DVI, in this case).

>>52298532
did you install the AMD driver?

>>52298532
>I'm using a Radeon HD 6970.
Then you should install proprietary drivers for it.
But beware, AMD is really fucking shit at making drivers for linux.

Anyways, with a proprietary GPU and with no skills at all you should be sticking to *buntu/mint, because installing proprietary drivers is just enabling some stuff in the options.

I can't guarantee it will work though.

>>52298532
What does xrandr say?

>>52298582
I suppose not. Ubuntu and Mint both have Driver Manager, which automatically chooses open-source drivers for you. These have always worked great in the past.

Do I need to install them manually on other OSs? I guess that's kind of a dumb question.

>>52298674
Fair enough, though I have always used the open-source drivers on Ubuntu and Mint; they've worked perfectly there. Obviously, they can't hold a candle to their Windows drivers, but they work well enough for what I need them to do. Everything that may be GPU-intensive that I need to do, I need to use a Windows-only program, anyway.

>>52298689
From what I remember, it saw a display with a max resolution of either 1152 x 864 or 1024 x 768 and it was connected via "unknown". I can't remember the specifics, as this was already a couple months ago.

>>52298400
>>52298339

Did both of those, to no avail

Thanks anyway.

Could it be because I downloaded i3-gaps eariler?

What distro is better than Arch Linux?

Nothing really works anymore..

>>52298769
What kernel are you using?

uname -a

should tell you.

>>52298821
4.3.3

>>52298821
Sadly, this was already a few months ago, so I can't recall.

For which kernel should I lookout?

>>52298796
no, im using i3 gaps also
font needs to be set system wide. but i dont use arch so i dont know how
what terminal do you use?

>>52298896
Just don't use something that is really old.

>>52298902
whatever comes with default arch.

Only things I have configured is basic i3-gaps, doesn't even have custom colors or gap width changed yet.

>>52298911
Fair enough; I'll give that a shot next time.

Thanks for the help, /flt/.

Which is the best WM?

I'm a DE baby and want to pig on my big boy pants and delve into the wonderful of wm. My biggest foe in this little endevour is finding easy, ELI5-like like instructions and documentation on WM.

Can anyone help?

>>52298922
run to check if fonts are installed and post output

fc-list | grep ewi

>>52299021
There is no best WM.
Try them all, decide what fits your needs.
Babbys first wm would be openbox.
Babbys first tiling wm would be i3.

>>52299063
Openbox it is! Wish me luck! :-D

>>52299089
sent :)

>>52299100
Pardon?

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fc-list | grep ewi
/usr/share/fonts/misc/tewi-bold-11.bdf: tewi:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/misc/tewi-medium-11.bdf: tewi:style=Regular
/home/elijah/.local/share/fonts/tewifw-bold-11.bdf: tewifw:style=Bold
/home/elijah/.local/share/fonts/tewifw-medium-11.bdf: tewifw:style=Regular
/usr/share/fonts/misc/tewi2a-bold-11.bdf: tewi2a:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/misc/tewifw-bold-11.bdf: tewifw:style=Bold
/home/elijah/.local/share/fonts/tewi2a-medium-11.bdf: tewi2a:style=Regular
/home/elijah/.local/share/fonts/tewi2a-bold-11.bdf: tewi2a:style=Bold
/home/elijah/.local/share/fonts/tewi-medium-11.bdf: tewi:style=Regular
/usr/share/fonts/misc/tewifw-medium-11.bdf: tewifw:style=Regular
/usr/share/fonts/misc/tewi2a-medium-11.bdf: tewi2a:style=Regular
/home/elijah/.local/share/fonts/tewi-bold-11.bdf: tewi:style=Bold


>>52299056

>>52299108
Should be worth noting that neither my titlebar in i3 or my terminal font has changed.

>>52299221
needed it to know if fonts were systemwide installed or local

run and post output

cat ~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf

>https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_configuration#Fontconfig_configuration
is what im reading, since my system uses different metchods

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>>52299285
[elijah@sierramadre ~]$ cat ~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf

cat: /home/elijah/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf: No such file or directory

I do have fontconfig installed

>Friendly Linux Thread
There's not an ounce of friendliness in these threads.

>>52299405
I also have the .config directory, but not the fontconfig one.

>>52299422
Fuck you

>>52299405
>>52299440

gotta admit im starting to dislike Arch
you probably need to ask the faggots in the desktop threads

>>52299465
I'm thinking about trying Gentoo

I already tried gentoo in virtualbox for a few moments, but that led to a kernel panic when I was done

I did some searching and heard from some possibly unreliable source that I forget the name of that virtualbox sometimes has some problems with gentoo

changing fonts shouldn't be this difficult.

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Gentoo Linux. Using LXDE, if that's at all relevant.

**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC269VB Analog [ALC269VB Analog]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0


No sound when I hook my laptop up to the TV. All other forms of output work; in pavucontrol I can choose speakers or headphones but not HDMI.

Fairly confident this isn't a kernel issue, but all the googling I'm doing has failed me thus far.

alsamixer has no explicit HDMI bar, but it does have S/PDIF with no volume bar. I think it's an issue with ALSA; generally if ALSA works Pulseaudio works on top.

>>52298811
Everything still works.
And if you can maintain an arch install, you should be able to maintain any other distro.

>>52299504
I recommend trying it if you know what you're doing.

I went into it with no real knowledge of how to use linux and with the help of three guides fumbled my way to a working install in 15 days.

>>52299504
fuck it all, try

set font tewi

>>52297316
kill yourself frogposter

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>>52298811
Install Gentoo.

But first, let me check 'em.

Has anyone tried using solus project yet?

I've run it from USB but haven't committed to installing it yet.
mite b cool

>>52299540
I was joking about things not working. Everything works great, it just lost it's excitment. Whenver I install a new somewhat obscure OS I get a little rush of dopamine.

I need something else to move on to. Is Gentoo hard to install?

On average, how long does it take to install Gentoo Linux?

>>52299563
>63
time to kill yourself family

>>52299556
No errors when inputting that command, but I have the same font as default

I compared it by checking a screenshot I took before I even thought about changing fonts. (Screenshot was made a few hours into installation.)

>>52299533
Are the drivers for your graphics card installed?
And does it work on another distro? (Live usb if you haven't tested)

>>52299589
It's not measured in time, but in facial hair growth.

20-40mm

>>52299589
If you know what you're doing and can focus entirely on it, 20-30 hours.

If you've got a life, a few days.

If you don't know what you're doing, in my experience two weeks.

>>52299571
Takes a while but if you know what you're doing it's just difficult as opposed to the meme levels of impossibility people claim.

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>>52299607
I was checking the dubs of the guy I replied to.

But while we're on the topic, check these.

>>52299613
The video works fine, it's just audio.

Yeah, it worked with audio and video when I used to use Fedora.

>>52299661
>61
You're embarrassing yourself. Check mine instead.

>>52299612
sorry m8 i couldn't help

>>52299221
What terminal do you use?

>>52299755
Thanks for helping anyways m80

Will see about switching to gentoo in the future, was having second doubts about arch anyway.

>>52299638
It really helps knowing that gentoo install isn't just a meme, it's probably less difficult then I remember, since the kernel panic I experienced was possibly a virtualbox error.

>>52299783
Whatever is default

How sane is openSUSE compared to like the buntus or debian?

Its certainly a step below fedora, arch, gentoo and the lot right?

Just looking for an install and forget distro, curently keen on Ubuntu MATE but not a fan of apt

>>52299571
Find pleasure in other things then.
Try to see how long you can maintain a system without installing something new.
The biggest advantage to rolling release for me was no major upgrades.
On Ubuntu, updating between releases was a pain and it broke almost every time.
It was often faster to just do a fresh install. I kept install scripts around so reinstalling was quicker. On arch it still breaks from time to time but it is usually easy to fix and it doesn't happen all at once.
If this doesn't work, buy a odroid or rpi and use that to set up different things.
This way you can feed your addiction while having a functional computer.
And maintaining a server is a different kind of fun. You have to keep up with security news, configure a lot of things and keep it stable.

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>>52299751
> 51

B T F O
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F
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>>52299818
Okay, listen.

Terminal font is set with an ~/.Xresources file.
If you don't have one, you'll need to create it. Then add this.

xterm*faceName: tewi

Also, read this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/.Xresources#Xterm_resources

Title bar font for i3 is set in ~/.i3/config
with this line:

font tewi 10

or whatever.

Try these. If they don't work, let me know.

>>52299919
I need to add. When you've changed the X resources file you'll need to run this command: xrdb ~/.Xresources

And start a new terminal to see the changes.

>>52299919
Thanks m80!

This is great.

I'll restart to see if my changes stay.

>>52299856
I have never really found the love for opensuse. The one click install is a bit weird, they implemented a great KDE, but if you want to run mate then that is not a selling point.

as for apt-get, there are alternatives. Aptitude is a lot better.
Ubuntu LTS is hard to beat

>tfw too stupid for arch linux.

guess I'm stuck with linux mint for now.

>>52300017
Didn't stay, have to reuse the xrdb ~/.Xresources command

any possible way to script it at x startup?

>>52300073
Move onto Fedora or Debian if you want a step above babby's first gahnoo slash loonix.

>>52300101
Can you post the contents of your ~.xinitrc file?

>>52300152
I mean ~/.xinitrc

>>52300031
>Ubuntu LTS
Funny you mention that since I'm on 15.10, I've always found that LTS while usually nice is a bit too outdated for my needs.

I mean sure I could update the kernel myself but I usually cba. I'll try out aptitude.

>>52300152
>>52300163
Don't have one in home folder, but, the one in /etc/x11/xinit/xinitrc is just 2 words

exec i3

>>52300192
Alright.

I'll just give you mine. Save this as ~/.xinitrc.

http://pastebin.com/WQVJXZ9B

>>52300246
Thanks again m70 can't wait until I evolve into a desktop thread fag

Changing fonts is just the beginning

>>52300325
No problem dude.

How can I enable more comprehensive edge tiling in Ubuntu MATE?
Currently using Marco as WM and compton for compositing.

I can tile a windows to either side of the screen to take up half the screen, but I can't seem to able to get it to tile windows to a quarter of the screen by dragging a windows to a corner of the screen.

>>52300182
I prefer to use LTS + ppa for everything I want to be updated.
Systemd is a big reason to update though

So I am installing linux mint cinnamon 17.3 (I think) right now and planning to dual boot. I am browsing 4chan with mint currently, and I was wondering, what are the advantages to this over windows? I like the aesthetics just as much, though I prefer dark colors and not the silver default. The only notable difference for me is the interface and the boot up time being significantly faster.

>>52300391
compiz is pretty bloated, but I think it can do that job
more advanced would be using a tiling wm
even more advanced would be using hotkeys and wmctrl scripts

>>52300391
You can write scripts that set the placement and size of windows but it doesnt work perfectly.
I would use a better window manager.

>>52300421
I am getting an error while installing on my 10k mb free space partition that says "No root file system is defined," how do I fix this?

If I plug in my Debian install USB and select install will it wipe my HDD? Because that's what I want it to do

>>52299422
They used to be friendlier

>>52300421
Hard to summarize in a single post.
It is easier to automate.
Most things can be done from the command line which means it can be written in a file and run as a script. These scripts can be bound to hotkeys, menu entries or run with an interval.

Software management is a lot easier.
You install everything from a secure, trusted location. This means there is no difference to installing different things, no boxes you have to untick, just use the computer.

But if you only use a browser, why would you use non free software?

>>52300442
>>52300455
I'd really prefer to not bother with compiz, it crashes my session and doesn't run properly on Ubuntu MATE

Would openbox be a better bet?
Also since I started using compton I'm getting drop shadows where there shouldn't be any. Specifically around drop down menus.

>>52295996
lol manjaro

>>52300639
Since compton doesnt come with a manual:

compton -h

read this.
>>52300732
>he filled a captcha for this

>>52300751
damn rite I did

>>52300585
What do you mean by this?

>But if you only use a browser, why would you use non free software?

>>52300639
-C: Disable shadow effects on panels and docks
-G: Disable shadow effects for application windows and drag-and-drop objects

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>>52300778
Already set to true in compton.conf

>>52295996
I wan't to go back to linux but crunchbag which was my main is kill, what is a good replacement for it /flt/?
I want something minimalist that just werks, need to run eclipse, and masturbate furiously to Chinese cartoons, possibly flash games of the said chinese cartoons
>T...th.thanks

>>52300984
xubuntu
debian
pretty much anything

crunchbang wasn't very minimalist really

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>>52300984
https://www.bunsenlabs.org/

>>52300984
crunchbang is literally debian+openbox

>>52300751
>>he filled a captcha for this
I bought a 4chan pass for this

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>>52301099
>I bought a 4chan pass
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU GET OFF MY BOARD
REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>>/facebook/
>>>/9gag/
>>>/out/

>>52301194
dude calm down

cbs typing a captcha evry minute thats all

>>52301194
nice meme! keep it here >>>/r9k/

>>52301194
Take your cancer back to >>>/v/

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reminder

>>52300325
have fun being non-productive

I am currently using linux mint cinnamon 17.3. Whenever I click restart from log-in screen I get a black screen with cursor and the computer never restarts, so I have to hold down the power button to get out of it. Anyone know the solution?

>>52301317
Have fun with your ugly desktop.

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Who /p6/ here?

I've got a Toughbook CF-28 with an 800 MHz PIII-M and 512 MB of PC133 plus dock I was thinking of rigging up in the shed for shitposting, ebay/wiki surfing, and running X applications on a remote Solaris host (mostly spreadsheets and databases in StarOffice)

Does /flt/ think it would be up to the job with Debian or something similar?

>>52301392
>not a p4 2ghz

>>52297900

then I assume you are using tint2 or similar, as such you can pick and choose whatever power manager you like. Just give a few a go till you find one you like.

>>52301392
maybe for traveling? if the batteries are good?
http://www.android-x86.org/

>>52301478
Charging it right now to see if they are, picked it up for $5 at a recycler because I have a fetish for niche portables.

That's kind of a cool idea, I almost want to try it though I think I'd rather have the flexibility and better multitasking capabilities of a traditional desktop environment. Is there even anything out for x86 android that would allow forwarding X applications over ssh?

>>52301518
probably not, sadly

>>52301631
Did you delete it because you realized it was shit?

'Cause it's shit.

And you should regret posting it.

>>52301438
last P4 laptop I owned almost literally burned my house down
never again

>>52302378
recommend transmission with https://github.com/walshie4/Ultimate-Blocklist

>>52299886
So close

I'm trying to update a library using

$ sudo apt-get install libxcb1-dev

But i keep getting an error that says "E: failed to fetch" and "could not resolve"

What do

>>52302603
Are your repos all up to date? If it's the official repository, maybe it's down atm? Or your internet is buggered?

>>52295996
Have:
>E2180
>2x1GB DDR2-667
>Gigabyte G31 mobo
>640GB SATA 3.0gb/s HDD 7200RPM
>750GB SATA 3.0gb/s HDD 5400RPM
>PCI GT610 512MB DDR3
>PCI-E G210 512MB GDDR3

What should I build? The E2180 seems to pull too much power for file server or media server duties.

Processor doesn't have VT-x/VT-d either.

I do have a need for VPN access to my internal network, where should I start with building something that can do this? Or should I just use SSH?

>>52302378
whats you IP address so i can blacklist you from my bittorrent server

>>52301039
>Conky
Nice bloat

>>52301320
Can you reboot fine from the terminal?

>>52302517
What is this? I've never heard of torrent blacklists and the GitHub page doesn't explain anything.

>>52302874

Yea, rebooting anywhere is fine except for trying to reboot at log-in screen.

>>52302744
>didn't read anything
>post anyway LOOL

>>52300421
speaking of dual booting i'm trying to do the exact same thing with mint as well, however when i get to the actual install theres no option to do so. any help?

>>52303245
What do you mean? Did you install Windows first? Mint should detect it

the fuck does double middle click go to some other homepage (cant figure out which it choses) on my thinkpad and how do I disable it?

>>52303323
it probably pastes whats in the clipboard

>>52303315
windows came pre-installed
it was just recently that i got into linux, so i wanna install it onto my laptop, problem is theres only the option that completely wipes the drive and replaces it with mint.
any suggestions? clarification needed?

>>52303339
huh, that seems to be it

>>52303370
>pre-installed
Doesn't that mean that windows drives occupy entire hard drive?

>>52303323
Go to about:config and set general.autoscroll to true. Enjoy.

>>52303370
So it sounds like you are have a laptop, with Windows. You do not want to loose windows, you want to install Mint to dual boot.

Your frustration is that you are not seeing an option to dualboot in the mint installer?

I am pertty sure there is an option to dual boot, lat time I installed mint there was. You may just need to make some choices in the installer before you get it.

>>52303402
what should i do from there? is there any way that i can still keep windows and work on mint from a usb?
sorry i'm new to this and im just trying to learn and grow up

Is zsh actually good or just the ubuntu of shells?

>>52303435
You could try deleting D: drive, I guess?

>>52303446
It's pretty fuckin' dope. Very customizeable, very convenient.
Try it for yourself (and look at themes in oh-my-zsh), don't let any random faggot stop you with his nonsense and FUD.

>>52303446
I installed it lately, not even sure why. Looks really nice after customization.

>>52303422
exactly, thanks!
any idea what these coices would be? like what is a partition, etc?
any links i could go to for this? tried to sticky stuff already and it was really helpful but there was nothing on partitions

>>52303451
well, if it means cutting the umbilical cord then it has to be done

>>52303484
Your best and safest bet would be to shrink any of your Windows drives and using that as your Linux drive.
Search for Disk Management in the Windows search thing.

>>52303484
Just delete or shrink one of your partitions to make space for Linux.
Make sure to pick bottom option during installation (I think it was "something else")
Remember that you can have only 4 primary partitions, if you create 4 before using up all HDD space, remaining space will show up as unusable.
Mount the NTFS partitions you want to access from Mint with for example /windows/ (don't format them).
Create / partition, swap partition and I guess /home/ too.

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>>52303533
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux,
is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component
of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell
utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day,
without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU
which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are
not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a
part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system
that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run.
The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself;
it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is
normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system
is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux"
distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>52303484
Well, to try to explain most basically, a partition is a part of your disk that is treated sort of like a seperate disk unto itself.
Here are some resources taht may help clarify what is going on.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Partition

>>52303505
Is probably right. Windows has a disk managment utility. You can shrink your Windows drive, and then the Mint installer can take and cut up the space you have freed as it likes.

>>52303545
>1200x1200
>doesnt look like a square
What the fuck is my brain doing

>>52303545
I'm sorry, mr. Richard It won't happen again.

>>52303566
4chan extension that resizes images?

Why should I use a tiling WM?

Notes:
Mostly used to stacking WMs/DEs. Using Openbox right now and (mostly) loving it.

I used Awesome on my laptop (res: 1280x800) a couple of years ago, but 1) I was still essentially a Linux scrub and 2) it was only for like a day or less before I switched out of it. Now on a desktop with resolution 1600x900.

i3 has a lot of hype, but I'm wondering if I should really go through with it.

I just feel like I'm not the person who tiling WMs are marketed for, tbqh. Openbox fits my needs because it's simple as fuck, and I neither want nor need much out of a window manager.

The "demos" of i3 that I've seen haven't really changed my mind, but maybe the testimonials of /flt/ might. I dunno.

>>52303505
>>52303533
alright thanks a million
gonna try it now

>>52303566
>>52303583

It's literally an optical illusion.

Using a widescreen resolution will make square things seem taller than they are wide. I guess it's because your brain also thinks that a 16:9 monitor is squarer than it actually is, so it overcompensates with everything that's actually in it. Since we normally don't care about the exact resolutions of windows/pictures, it usually doesn't matter, but you get weird moments like this with square pictures.

>>52303505
>>52303533
wait before i go are there any dangers/ limits to how small you can make the drives?

>>52303606
you should start with bspwm or dwm, easily configurable and bspwm has very easy keyboard shortcut creation which lets you do things like ctrl+alt+f to open firefox etc,the basis of tiling wm's is saving screen real estate and exploiting the width of wide monitors to have everything at your immediate visual access. If you prefer openbox stick to it tho

>>52303606
I will not hurt you to try. You can download i3, or whatever, give it a little configuration, and commit to using it for a week or so. If you like it, stay, otherwise, fine.

I tried i3 and became enamoured with window managers, so I have not really ever looked back since my first few days (my first day was a different story). But they are not for everybody.

>>52299504
i didnt give the gentoo VB enough ram and it ran out of resources when compiling the kernel and just stopped wasted quite a bit of time

>>52303637
Not really. Just be realistic, 20GB for a linux system is a good starting point, but depends on how much you want to use it, of course.

Stupid question warning. But I'm running a Thinkpad X201 (Arch), and after updating to the 4.3 kernel, audio stopped working entirely (not playing, even though alsamixer reports 100% volume and no muting). I know I'm gonna have to post some terminal output here for diagnosis, but I don't know what to post for that. Any tips?

>>52303637

If you're using something with KDE, you ought to leave at least 35gb imo.

It says less, but I found less hassle with more room.

If you're not using KDE, then 20gb or so is fine

>>52303563
alright thanks for the help. you just saved me from another frustration.
i really should use google more often now anyways if im trying to learn

>>52303710
>>52303662
alright so i havent booted up mint again yet because im trying to re-size my (partitions)? windows is taking up almost the full terabyte, which it obviously does not need.
do i need to download a partition editior to resize?
i'm messing around on the disk manager but there doesnt seem to be any options for actually re-sizing.

>>52303856
I'd recommend you follow this: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/resize-a-partition-for-free-in-windows-vista/

Later on you'll be using gparted to do this, but not now.

>>52303856

In windows:

>disk management
type that in the search bar if you can't find it

then right click, and select shrink volume if I remember right

>>52303606
i dont know about other wm but im using awesome wm and enjoy it because of its nice integrated mouse support, if you want to resize a window you just mod+r-click it and it will dynamically size everything around the shape of the window. Do other WMs offer this functionality? the config is in lua which (to me at least) was a strange language to get to grips with at first

>>52303878
thanks

>>52303892
holy shit i feel dumb. i wanna say that i swear im trying but i don't know anymore. but we must learn. thanks for that

I'm a beginner. I've played a little with xubuntu before but now I'm actually going to run something through a vm on my main pc. I'm thinking of trying out debian.

Also, how much would I be able to fuck up my main windows os running pc through a vm? just so I know how careful I should be

>>52304046
If you've used xubuntu, why try Debian?? They're essentially the same thing.

Try something different like, Arch, Gentoo, Fedora etc..

>>52304046
Don't run NSA-grade malware in a VM and you should be completely fine.

>>52304046
If you are on a VM, it should be really difficult to mess up your main system unless you are trying to.

>>52304085
I heard running CryptoLocker in a vm can't spread into your main system

>>52304090
Only if you have folders mounted between systems with write permission.
Or if it is, as I said, NSA-grade malware.

>>52304059
Well cause I've only used a little bit of xubuntu. I mean I could go back to it but I was hoping to try something newish that isn't too complicated yet. Debian seemed like a good choice, but maybe not idk. Are they really that similar?

>>52304111
>NSA-grade malware
Care to elaborate?

>>52304090
>>52304111
>can't spread
fucked up and read it as "can".

>>52304136
I mean't to write *can

>>52304117
Debian is a bit more stable/secure but by default has packages that are, literally, decades old. You read that correctly, decades old.

So if you are going to use Debian, use debian testing.

>>52304130
If something can escape the VM sandbox, it must be a real fucking strong piece of software. Not many people or institutions have the kind of exploits capable of that.
Thus, "the NSA-grade".

>>52304154
Wow, didn't know it was that old. Maybe I'll just go back on Xubuntu then. It was pretty nice anyways.

>>52304165
The software engineers that word for the NSA are people too. Don't act like they're some 200 IQ level geniuses.

>>52295996
So what are some good sites to add to my RSS and some interesting mailing lists for an advanced user?

>>52304090
The odds that you will get cryptolocker on the VM are astronomically small. Don't go clicking suspicious links.

I do not know specifically about cryptolocker, but does it work for GNU/Linux systems?

>>52304130
I think what anon means is that, if you are being attacked by a dedicated and skilled adversary, they proabably can get through you VM and attack your main system if they want.

Odds are you are not in this position.

>>52304178
No, but they have a lot of resources, and if they are attacking you, they likely are attacking you specifically, not just anyone.

A typical malware distributor is probably looking to infect many computers and trick people into paying money. Or just going for the lulz. In either case, they probably do not care if one computer is resistant, they are looking for the vulnerable targets.

>>52304178
No, not all of them are. But it doesn't take a genius to force companies under your jurisdiction to insert backdoors into their software.
Guess what? That's what the NSA have been doing this whole time.

how do I make firefoxs bookmark window float in bspwm?

>>52304462
"Wingardium Leviosa!"

>>52304462
xprop + archwiki's bspwm wiki

>>52304516
thanks!

dell chromebook 11 arch linux install.
Sound on speakers don't work, but headphones do. I installed the alsa-utils package and pulseaudio. Here is my aplay -l:

**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: bytmax98090 [byt-max98090], device 0: Audio HiFi-0 []
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #
I ran alsactl restore, as I recall it being a fix. Here is the output:

alsactl: state_lock:125: file /var/lib/alsa/asound.state lock error: File exists
alsactl: load_state:1683: Cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for reading: File exists
alsactl: sysfs_init:48: sysfs path '/sys' is invalid

Found hardware: "byt-max98090" "" "" "" ""
Hardware is initialized using a generic method
alsactl: sysfs_init:48: sysfs path '/sys' is invalid

Found hardware: "HDA-Intel" "Intel Valleyview2 HDMI" "HDA:80862882,80860101,00100000" "0x8086" "0x0f04"
Hardware is initialized using a generic method


alsamixer showed a variety of devices such as headphones and speakers (which had no effect) but after following the wiki's suggested config files for chromebooks, alsamixer only shows spdif and spdif 1.

Any tips? and any explanation why this didn't work out of the box??? Thanks

cant get second monitor to get detected or for amdccc to launch on ubongo 15.10. is this a known issue? is there a workaround? is there a distro that is both new and has working amd drivers?

Hey friendly linux users! I work in IT and i've always used Windows: good thing is that my company does not force me to install Microsoft product, so.. I decided to go balls deep and installed Xubuntu on a small laptop. I'm connected to a remote desktop/ssh/telnet session for 90% of the time... Other software i use is mail client (exchange compatible). Is Xubuntu a good choice to start with?

>>52305193
sure why not

>>52305193
Xubuntu is great, also check out Linux Mint

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How 2 netflix?
Even this shit only shows up if I change the user agent, otherwise it's redirects to a netflix help site. Using Chromium.

>>52305304
Any reason to switch to Mint?
Also, I tried Remmina (because of a lot of remote desktop/ssh server and need to organize them) and export all my connections is pain in the ass. Do any of you know of a better remote connection manager (not only free as in free beer, commercial software are welcome)?
what about exchang compatible client? What's better between Thunderbird+plugin and Evolution?

>>52305389
Install pipelight

Don't fucking use Chromium you pleb

>>52304189
Anyone?

>>52298811
install gentoo

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>>52305411
Thanks man

>>52305571
Glad I could help, now uninstall Chromium botnet trash

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>lost my irssi config
I'm so fucking mad guys, I used it for so long I don't even remember how to do things in irssi without it, I don't remember how to write a config. I'm going to fucking hang myself now.

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So I'm the anon that installed linux on a virtual machine on PC but failed on his x220. It kept the USB media as the boot and my sda1 partition flagged as a non-boot partition.

These steps worked on the VM machine for windows and I even got a basic desktop enviroment up and running with xorg + openbox + xdfe? I think and some service command systemctl enable lxdm.service I think.

http://pastebin.com/jnSr6AWG

Mostly I'm posting this just so people can laugh at what a retard I am. Though telling me what I did wrong would be cool too.

>>52305972
>syslinux
Your fault. Assuming you are BIOS, use GRUB.

>>52305972
>>52306034
Yep, you should totally be using GRUB. Never had problems with it on my X220.

>>52306034
>>52306059

Is that literally the only problem? Just change like the last few lines to grub stuff?

pacman -S grub
man grub //read whatever for the update command
Is there a config file I need to alter to make sda1 the root? Will my partition scheme work?

>>52306090
You'd be better off reading this:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB

whats the best pre riced linux distro?

>>52306090
It's easier to pacman -S grub os-prober, and then grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

That's it!

>>52306130
>>52306101

Alright I'll try this right now thanks guys.

Hey, can anyone recommend a good program with a UI to change keyboard behaviour in ubuntu? I'm going to customize quite a bit and I'd like something that just werks.

>>52306525

Also, coming from mint I would like to customize unity to be more mint like wrt toolbars and stuff. Can anyone recommend a good way to customize unity? The config stuff seems really barebones

>>52306525
explain "keyboard behavior"
>>52306571
unity tweak tool for basics
anymore than that and i hope you like css

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What is the best vm program for running Linux on win7? I have Oracle vmbox, but I don't know if there is a better choice out there.

>>52306592

I worded it badly, what I want is to change a lot of keys, such as adding a lot of programming specific keys on the home row by holding down alt gr. "Changing keyboard behaviour" sounds a little bombastic in retrospect...

>>52306605
vmwareworkstation. Or hyperV if your windows version supports it.

Anyone know a good Gnome Shell theme for Gnome 3.18? I've tried:
>Arc
>Paper
>Vertex
>Xenlism

Anything better than these 4?

>>52306605
virtualbox is allright. Linux detects it and enables some kernel level guest system optimizations and a few distros automatically install guest additions and xorg drivers.

How do I make the button labels show empty space in XFCE? I don't want to see text, but disabling labels make the button to small

>>52306647
Would vmwareworkstation be better optimized, or should I stick to vbox?

>>52306617
oh key bindings and such. ubuntu might have one biltin otherwise check the package manager or someone else could give a recommend

does it feel better to use gentoo than to use arch, I love the freedom but could i be more free?

>>52306931
If you love freedom, use GNU Emacs OS.

>>52306953
>GNU Emacs OS
has anyone actually ever used the stallman reccomended distros? I love me some meme OS' but I had never heard of any of the GNU endorsed distros

Is it worth running Linux on one monitor and Windows on another? I want to keep Windows for my games and shit but do everything else on Linux.

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I FUCKING DID IT

I INSTALLED ARCH LINUX!

>>52306155
Btw

>ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Seattle /etc/localtime //I think this is wrong and I should pick Vancouver or Los Angeles or something.

This is wrong, there is no Seattle in /usr/share/zoneinfo/America.

Try to ls -l /usr/share/zoneinfo/America to see the cities.

P.S.: You can do the command post-installation, you won't have to reinstall just for it.

Hey, I just installed ubuntu, and then the lubuntu DE. In ubuntu I can add a norwegian colemak keyboard layout, but in the lubuntu DE this is missing and I can only get english colemak. Anyone know where I can get the missing keyboard layouts?

>>52307161
>colemak
use QWERTY you fuckface.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Keyboard#Change_Layout_Option

>>52307186

Its just a keyboard layout, I wanted to learn touch, and I googled which layout was least likely to give me CTS while I was at it. Anyways the issue is that lubuntu is missing several layouts present in ubuntu, and I want to acquire the missing layouts in the lubuntu DE.

>>52307048
did you do it the real mans way?

>>52307245
... blindfolded?

>>52307262
through the terminal mon, no architect

>>52306631
nope.go full arc.for now there is nothing better

>>52307245
I think so, I used the official arch ISO. The problem I was having was rather retarded (Iactually did forget to flag sda1 as boot) WHOOPSIE
anyway it works for the most part.

The problem I'm having right now is im getting
error getting authority: error initializing authority: error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1: timout was reached ect.

This is for trying to do sustemctl enable lxdm.service

I have xorg, lxde, lxdm installed.

>>52307311
See >>52307155

>download mint 17.3 rosa
>all the packages are from 2014

wtf?

>>52307334
>Mint
your fault

>>52307334
>downloaded debian
>got debian
>"wtf"

>>52307311
you can fix the boot thing by booting into another OS/live CD and using parted or Gparted to stick a boot flag on sda1 then chrooting into the arch filesystem after mounting the proper filesystems (boot, root etc) then running genfstab > /etc/fstab again

do you get anything when running $dmesg | grep freedesktop ?

i presume you are running this command as root, or if sudo you have added yourself to the sudoers list right?

wow OP
I love you
not cuz I care about manjaro
but you are triggering the manjaro-hate fags all around

>>52307367
I fixed the boot thing already. Actually I just fixed the problem dank!

>>52307286
That's sad really. I have a lot of problems with it.
>The "Show Applications" icon doesn't blend well for some reason. It does with other themes (like Paper and Vertex)
>Text is too small on the top bar
>The white they use is blinding
>The dark theme breaks Firefox (even with the theme)

All I want is Arc colors with Paper sized decorations.

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>>52307388
are arch users the austrailians of /g/? we have a lot of time on our hands clearly and seem to spend most of it shitposting

replies to last thread
>>52295175
use curl or provide wget binaries if you want macfags to be able to use it.

If you want them, I made Mac OS wget binaries at some point last year. I can share them. Just let me know.

I installed Fedora 23 on my second pc after making sure the wifi dongle I was using (Fritz!WLAN N v2, 057c:8501) was supposedly supported in the kernel

Everything seems to work fine, and after figuring out how to get it to stop mounting in cdrom mode, i even managed to see the available wifi networks.

However, once I tried to connect to mine, Fedora just straight up stopped working.
The screen freezes, my mouse and keyboard dont react, any key combination I try doesnt do anything. After rebooting everything is fine again until I try connecting again. This is 100% reproducable.

How the fuck do I fix my wifi?

>>52307425
wtf paper is way to big. I use full arc and it works fine for me. maybe you missed some updates?

>>52307434
>my favorite games ever
mah nigga.


>>52307566
sounds like a kernel panic, perhaps.
Never used fedora, but I'd first suggest updating your kernel to the latest available (or latest 'stable') over ethernet. Also, get a fucking internal card next time.

>>52307334
Use debian testing if you want up to date packages, or sid if you want cutting edge up to date.

I'm using mozc as Japanese IME.
When I start a program such as a browser as a different user, it does not work, i.e. I can't input Japanese.
Any help appreciated.

>>52307644
>as a different user
why the fuck are you running your browser as a different user?

>>52307644
ばか。
Don't run it as a different user then.

>>52307662
Tunneling traffic through VPN only as that user.

>>52307685
>not knowing how to configure an SSH tunnel in firefox

>>52307574
Looking closely at differences between Arc and Paper, Arc uses different window bar sizes for different programs. On Tweak Tool, it's perfect. On Firefox, it's too small for me.

I like the default sizes of decorations for Gnome. Arc changes that and makes everything smaller.

Also, your right. I'm using a version of the theme from 5 months ago. Going to try out the one from github.

>>52307685
run

firefox -P

and make a new firefox profile for VPN use maybe?

>>52307700
I've spent a total of like 10 hours with Linux.

>>52307713
I suppose I could try to do that.

>>52307748
SSH tunnel setup works the same in linux and windows.

http://superuser.com/questions/742884/how-to-set-up-http-socks5-tunneling-proxy-on-windows-using-freesshd/742952

>>52307775
Thanks, I'll look into it.

I've installed Arch a while a go and things work pretty damn well, but there is one thing that's bothering me.
Some characters like the face of this thing "¯\_(ツ)_/¯" and pretty much all Chinese and Japanese symbols appear as squares in all browsers, but I'm currently using Chromium. Do I have to install a special font or something to get them to work?

>>52307929
Try to install ttf-droid or ttf-dejavu

>>52307929
N O T O
O
T
O

And set the fontconfig.

Are there any good Slackware-derived noob friendly distros? I like how conservative and unintrusive Slackware generally is, but there's just too much CLI for my tastes.

>>52307705
they are called client side decoration and have nothing to do with the theme

>>52308031
I'm confused. Why does it make a difference. I'm using Fedora 23. Shouldn't 2 different gtk3 programs have the same window decorations?

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After months struggling with emojis, I finally got a decent one.
Thanks to the anon who suggested noto-fonts-emoji.
It should be added to the wiki.

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>>52308168
Sadly they do not. I've tried using GTK2 themes with GTK3 apps, they don't work unless the app provides a theme for both GTK2 and GTK3. IIRC, GTK3 uses CSS or something. Been a while.

Here's something cool for you. I modified the GTK2 'light themes' (Ambiance and Radiance) from Ubuntu 10.04 to include 12.04's GTK3 theme as well (which looks similar enough that I can deal with it). They changed a couple things in the 12.04 version, like close/open buttons, so I reverted things for consistency with 10.04 where possible.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/74519404/light-themes-mod.tar.xz

>>52308168
>>52308485
never mind that, misinterpreted that because you were too lazy to spell out 'two', so I read it as gtk2.

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>>52308485
P.S. accidentally uploaded a window screenshot instead of the full screen.

How many other people here use the MATE desktop?

If not, why not?
(I understand why not if you're an openbox or DWM ricer)

>>52308516
>>52308496
>>52308485
I now understand a basic understanding of client side decorations, but why does Arc decide to follow them while Adwaita and Paper seem to ignore them completely?

>>52308611
I don't use MATE because HIDPI support is not there. I kinda need it.

>>52307957
Thanks man, that worked.

So I installed Linux mint and it was successful for the most part, except the grub bootloader was not installed so I couldn't access the installed linux, I deleted blank label partitions on windows so hopefully it is gone. If I were to reinstall how do I make sure the grub bootloader is installed. I don't want to dual boot Linux I just wanted to experiment with it so I will just run it in a vm for the future, how do I install it with a vm

>>52303641
>>52303644
>>52303916

Late as hell, but thanks guys. Giving bspwm a try right now, and it's not too shabby. I'm definitely feeling more confident with this, at least.

>>52308721
Use VirtualBox and google a guide for Mint or Ubuntu.

In case you do want to dual boot, I used the following guide (since I have UEFI) and it worked flawlessly
http://www.techerina.com/2015/01/dual-booting-windows-8-and-ubuntu-uefi-using-rufus.html

cinnamon is really good

t. closed minded kde user

>>52308168
>>>52308031 (You)
>I'm confused. Why does it make a difference. I'm using Fedora 23. Shouldn't 2 different gtk3 programs have the same window decorations?

Some programs like nautilus,tweak tool and lollypop use new window decorations which are called client side decorations.they are bigger and have a different menu.they are not popular thiugh.

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>>52308835
>>52308835
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>>52308485
If I remember correctly, Adwaita only has a GTK2 theme, and was never updated for GTK3.

>>52308885
Adawaita was the fucking default theme for GNOME 3, how can it lack GTK3 theme?

>>52308810
Is it actually better than MATE?

I use MATE because:
a) I started with GNOME 2
b) doesn't require accelerated graphics
c) it has some nice themes.

>>52308900
Alright, I did say "if I remember correctly".
GNOME 3 is a complete and total piece of shit that I refuse to use, so I wasn't sure.