/flt/ - Friendly Linux Thread

What is Linux (or GNU/Linux for Stallmanists)?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux

Babby's First Linux (What distro to choose?)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

What software does /g/ recommend? (Please DON'T include the so called infographic [it's reddit-tier] -- refer all your recommended software here.)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software

Ricing on Linux (Make it good and functional or make it worse/puke-inducing like those at desktop threads)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux_ricing

A script designed to ease the transition from Windows to Debian
https://gitgud.io/Chocolate-Chip-Computing/DebianNewbieScript

Check out this page for any updates on the OP
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php//flt/

IRC No one uses:
irc://irc.freenode.org:+7000/FriendlyLinux

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friendly reminder

>>52308825
Under themes like Adwaita and Paper, all window decorations are the same size. I have no idea why.

My biggest problem with Arc isn't that, but I wonder what sets Arc different from Adwaita in terms like this. People say client side decorations, but how can themes overide this?

>>52308859
come on dude :/

>>52308913
Hey spamming this shit in every single thread. Just dont reply.

>>52308859
I need that rebuttal pic, where did that guy go?

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>>52308859
Reminder that you're wrong

>>52308908
Arc looks like what is intende to be.old decorations are smaller with file/properties wtc.
Paper forces the old ones to be bigger so they fit.But its wasted space if you think about it.

>>52308923
I never understood shitposters desu

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Friendly reminder to use Fedora.

>>52308932
>muh games
>windows 10 is shit
>your numbers a wrong because I says so!

Cool opinion piece. Do you work for Gawker?

>>52308962
Friendly reminder to not listen to some dude on /g/ and instead figure out which distro you need by looking around on google and basing your decision on what kind of user you are.

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>>52308925
I've still got it. Don't worry. Glad I took the time to write that up.
Raw text:
http://pastebin.com/8Cz70F2t
see >>52308932

>>52308810
Is it actually better than MATE?

I use MATE because:
a) I started with GNOME 2
b) doesn't require accelerated graphics
c) it has some nice themes.

(repost from last thread: my modified ubuntu 10.04 Ambiance/Radiance themes with some GTK3 support added)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/74519404/light-themes-mod.tar.xz

>>52308962
Fedora's not my cup of tea but I appreciate it.

>>52308974
Windows 10 is shit. That's not debateable. It invades your privacy, and you can't even disable automatic updates via registry in the home edition.
When I'm forced to use windows, I'm sticking with 7. I stuck with XP pretty close to the end.

>>52308941
I like the "wasted space" because it creates a "unified experience" (for lack of a non-buzzword). I big complaint about windows 10 is that certain UI elements cannot conform to a standard. It would be nice to avoid that.

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Just a friendly reminder.

>>52309044
My biggest beef with windows 8 and up is that it's impossible to change the fonts the UI uses through non-arcane binary-stored-in-registry entries.

My next biggest beef is privacy invasion, followed by 'cloud integration'.

Why do you guys reply to that windows shill in every fucking thread even though he posts exactly the same thing every single time? It's not like he's open for debating that shit neither, he just responds with greentexting and memes like a /v/ermin he is.

>>52309076
I'm posting the exact same thing every time too (well actually, someone else posted my rebuttal last thread). I can go as long as he can.

>>52309076
Also, It's mainly so linux users know that the points in the list are all debateable (even if he himself won't debate them).

Linux is not as bad as that list makes out.

>>52309070
My biggest beef (for my laptop) is HIDPI support. I'm okay with shit HIDPI support so long as it's readable. In Linux, it is, or you can make it to be readable very easy. In Windows, it isn't readable worth a damn. I love how half of my programs are a blurry mess. Thank you Microsoft!

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>>52309109
>>52309083
>>52309076
>>52309063
>>52309004
>>52308974
>>52308962
>>52308961
>>52308932
>>52308925
>>52308923
>>52308913
>>52308859

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>>52309044
Just so we're clear left is new decoration and right is old. So your problem is that the old ones are smaller in arc? The thing is they are smaller but they take more space than the new ones when you show File/Edit menu. I think it has to be this way. Paper looks very weird on my machine desu. I think it's also deprecated

>>52309123
To me it sounds like you need glasses. However, yeah, that's a real problem now.

Of course, on windows 7 and lower, it's a piece of cake to fix fonts.

M$ just loves removing functionality though. Even 7 is missing the MIDI mapper that they took out after XP. Real pain in the ass for MIDI enthusiasts.

>>52309156
I love how you call it deprecated while it is still under development.

>>52309180
Oh my bad. Thought of another theme.

>>52309156
I'm using GNOME and my Paper theme has circle icons for windows in Firefox and Libreoffice. Why is yours different?

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>>52308932

>>52309156
Paper looks correct for me.
It shouldn't be this way, plus the default theme does it correctly.

>>52309226
Check on your icon theme
You may have installed the Paper icon theme as well.

Also, does the Paper Cursor theme do anything?

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I like Kubuntu but I can't stand APT, are there any RPM based distros that just work without too much configuration? I liked opensuse but the multimedia codec support was terrible and confusing. Korora seems like a good choice but I'm not sure, any opinions on it?

>>52309276
>can't stand APT
for what reason?

>>52309226
>using GNOME
*wince*

>>52309255
Sorry, my last post was confusing. I'm talking about titlebar buttons (minimize, maximize, and close).

>>52309252
You only have to read it if you feel like it. I'm not going to say you have to. But I read through the anti-linux guy's "reminder" to write this, and his is at least as long. My font's just larger.

Still, if you want to know why linux compatibility is nowhere near as terrible as he says, read it.

>>52308859
adobe flash has always been garbage, this is why nobody uses it anymore.
Switchable graphics have been fixed, for several years now.
keyboard shortcuts work better than on any OS out there
There is easy ways to install software not in the repository, but the solutions wary depending on the distro
No I don't play games.
Microsoft office works fine
>crucial windows applications
File sharing is easy on linux. There is several good options actually.
mounting an android phone works fine but most people prefer to use networked transfer
>advanced things like rules for when to switch graphics, nonstandard display settings and multiseat setups require configuration.
Boo hoo.
The fact that you can configure those things from a readable config file is awesome compared to the most basic things you have to configure through the registry on windows.
Don't know about iphones, but since you can manage all other e-gadgets over networked applications, the only one you need physical access to is printers and I have yet to encounter a printer that didn't work on linux. (with way less configuration than on windows)

The only valid point was that some applications don't work.
There are replacements for for those mentioned but as long as nobody wants to pay the same amount of money for the development of free applications as they pool into proprietary applications, they will not be as good.

>>52309276
Fedora KDE Spin is probably a better shot.

>>52309307
What's wrong with a riced out Gnome?

>>52309276
Korora is for Fedora what Manjaro is for Arch. Don't bother.

On fedora you just enable rpmfusion free+nonfree and install media codecs. It doesn't ship with multimedia codecs due to legal issues (Fedora belongs to redhat and as a US based company it has to acknowledge retarded American patent law).

>>52309298
dpkg/apt breaks dependencies a lot.
At least in did on wheezy/jessie. It's a rather mediocre package manager.
I have to admit, rpm/yum was good but slow, but since dnf replaced yum, it's a godsend.

>>52309298
APT's Inconsistant command syntax, the lack of delta packages, dpkg is slow and loves to break shit. I also like the OBS.

>>52309400
>APT's Inconsistant command syntax
tried aptitude?

>>52309395

Thanks for the advice.

>>52309400
aptitude, debdelta, dpkg recently got an update that made it way faster. http://openbuildservice.org/download/
works on everything, install debian testing.

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>>52309422
>aigh senpai let me fetch a frontend to a frontend to my package manager
>this will surely solve all our problems.

>>52309472
if he doesn't like inconsistent command syntax, what's wrong with using aptitude?

Friendly reminder to not fall for the arch meme

>not using synaptic

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>>52309495
if you doesn't like inconsistent command syntax, why not just go for a better package management system alltogether if you are going to learn a new tool anyways?

>>52309527
guix will take some time to be finished anon.

>>52309527
>if you doesn't like
don't*
fuck i'm dumb

>>52309537
güd mëmë

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>>52308835

>>52309648
solid chuckle

>>52309276
I use chakra.
It is an arch spin where the repository is focused on kde. It is pretty good.

>>52309527
Exactly my logic.
>>52309677
Eh. I don't like arch for a variety of reasons, I try to stick to distros that comply with the LSB.

>Ubuntu LTS
>Archfags shill a new good program on /g/
>apt-get no results
>search hours for a PPA
>last build 4 years ago
LTS never again.

Please don't shill babby linux'es. Babby wants working shit, not packages from 1992.

>>52309864
what software anon?
PPA are not exactly a hard thing do get into, you just provide a source and they compile shit to make it accessible to everyone.

Similar to Fedora's COPR buildsystem

>>52309864
This is why I'd suggest Manjaro (at least until noobs feel save enough for Arch if they want it plain).

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>>52309901
>Manmeme
Shit distro built on top of a shit distro.

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>>52309901
>defending security meme

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>>52309914

>falling for a years old meme

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>>52309936
>can't even maintain its site properly

>>52309953
>>52309936
>>52309914
>>52309913
>>52309901
http://archive.is/JeOLo

I memorized the URL.

>>52309864
>using meme programs that non-productive desktop ricers use

>manjaro
>

>>52309966
oh my god

>bug on forum website, SSL expired, some webdev, who has nothing to do with distro deveopment gives shit advice.

Wow it's fucking nothing.
>implying other projects don't have any bugs, did shit before

Hurr durr Manjaro a shit, but still suggesting fucking Amazuntu for babbys first linux? The fuck?

OH YEAH THEY REMOVED IT AND IT WAS ONLY UNITY

What a bunch of meme posters.
>>>/r9k/

Come back when you know what you're talking about and dont need to parrot /g/ - Random memes

>>52310124
t. buttblasted manjaro dev

Just stop, you're only making it worse

>>52310124
/g/ hates manjaro because muh sekrit arch club
manjaro opened the door for newfags, 1337 /g/ doesnt like that
the end :^)

>>52310124
I think you're the only one who takes the >manjaro meme seriously here

>>52310124
>SSL expired, some webdev, who has nothing to do with distro deveopment gives shit advice.
SSL cert expired and the team behind the project allowed this extremely bad advice to be posted on their front page. Your realize setting your clock back doesn't just "fix" that site right it also can potentially break thousands to millions of others and compromise the security of your users right?

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who /slack/ here?

>>52310221
Once you go Slack, you never go back.

>>>/linuxquestions/

>>52310221
go to bed grandpa, you'll get tired

>>52310213
>the team behind the project allowed this
you quoted, but didn't read
impressive

>>52310221
slack is for people born in 1950

>>52310184
>/g/ hates manjaro because muh sekrit arch club

arch has a shitload of documentation on it, and has highly active forums. it is a famous distribution, right up there with Debian, Ubuntu, and Mint. anyone who thinks it is a secret club is an idiot.

>manjaro opened the door for newfags, 1337 /g/ doesnt like that

manjaro defeats the whole purpose of arch, that's the problem. if you want a user friendly distribution, then go with one that has rightfully adopted such reputation. if you want a more, not advanced, but intermediate distribution, then go with arch. manjaro is just an awkward compromise desu.

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How come, every time when nobody is asking a linux related question, /flt/ starts to bloody murder itself?

>>52310272
No I read his comment but I don't agree with it the project's maintainers should be the ones green-lighting these posts to the front page. If they allowed that post that just make them look really ignorant. If they don't filter their posts to the front page and just let some indian web"dev" to post whatever shit he wants to the front page that could be worse.

>>52310327
I'll be honest, /flt/ is pretty much the only reason why I still come here.
/g/ is fucking doomed and I absolutely despise all those fucktarded consumer-oriented bullshit repeated over and over and over again by bored /v/irgins.


I have nothing to do at work for most of the day, so I just keep it open in the tab, hoping I could help some poor soul so he could have the "Oh my GOD this is great" moment we all hope for when installing linux for the first time.

>>52310376
sharing >the "Oh my GOD this is great" moment
Same here.

Old /g/ has already moved to /tech/ and /lain/, everything left is consumer advice and memes.

When is Wayland going to have sticky keys, and who the hell is supposed to implement them anyway, say, in a wayland-wlc-sway setup?
My keyboard is broken, mostly with modifier keys not working when pressed at the same time as some other keys (not all, though). I use sticky keys as a fallback for that.
In any case, seems like no Wayland for me yet, unless I'm willing to use everything in a XWayland setup.
In fact, when does Wayland get suitable for practical use anyway?

>>52310441
*sticky keys as a workaround for that
Let's note that they're also actually comfortable as hell, so I'm not willing to part with them at this point anyway.

So this is VIM related, it seems linux clipboard management is kina strange... how can I set up VIM and urxvt to copy paste like a human bean?

>>52310468
this is related section in my Xressources
URxvt.clipboard.copycmd: xclip -i -selection clipboard
URxvt.clipboard.pastecmd: xclip -o -selection clipboard

URxvt.keysym.Shift-Control-C: perl:clipboard:copy
URxvt.keysym.Shift-Control-V: perl:clipboard:paste


works inside urxct but not in VIM

>>52310468
Ctrl+Insert Shift+Insert, or select the text for copying and use your middle-click for pasting.

>>52310500
This seems to work to paste something to VIM, thank you, but how to copy something from VIM and paste it somewhere else?

>>52309864
arch is the best beginners distro there is. spend a week at most in a live USB environment to learn the command line, then just go balls deep into arch.

best way to learn linux imo, and there is an infinite amount of resources to refer to.

>>52310468
I just mess around with highlighting/middle-clicking, ctrl+c/ctrl+v, and ctrl+insert/shift+insert.

Something eventually works.

Shift+insert seems to get the job done m ost of the time. If you've highlighted something in the terminal, middle-clicking somewhere else will paste.

>>52310526
What about "+y and "+p? Or do you mean that you want just to use "normal" y and p?

>>52310327
Usually it's some sperg trying to shrill something.. On his case it's some butt blasted archfag.

>>52310441
On a related note, how close is KDE to supporting wayland?

>>52310672
5-10 years

>>52310701
Somebody please tell me this is a troll.

>>52310441
>In fact, when does Wayland get suitable for practical use anyway?
It's still like 4 months till Fedora 24 release. It's scheduled to be the first major distro that comes with Wayland as a default display protocol.

Even though Gnome 3 and default gnome3 applications support wayland, everything else will require XWayland compatibility layer to be used.

The sooner we ditch X for Wayland, the better, but we still have a long time before it gets fully adopted.

I would consider X to be obsolete when RHEL adopts it as default and Nvidia/AMD having proprietary drivers for it.
Till then, it's all beta testing and getting it "to work"

>>52308900
Alright, I did say "if I remember correctly".
GNOME 3 is a complete and total piece of shit that I refuse to use, so I wasn't sure.

>>52310735
It is. Kwin already has partial support for wayland and its one of the main focuses right now. Wayland by default should come sometime in the next year or two

>>52309367
>What's wrong with riced-out GNOME?
riced means non-functional, so GNOME 3 by default is riced.

If I build a PC and use the stock cooler, 6 months down the road, would I be able to replace the cooler with a better one? Or would removing it damage the CPU?

>>52310770
>Even though Gnome 3 and default gnome3 applications support wayland, everything else will require XWayland compatibility layer to be used.
Wait a minute, don't you mean qt5 and gtk3?
I thought these were the ones that were independent of both X and Wayland.

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What games are you guys playing?

Just bought Saint Row 4 and KOTOR 2, but I think I'm going to play Borderlands 2 tonight. Need to finish at least the main story

What releases/ports are you looking forward to this year?

Inb4 >>>/v/
Not starting a Linux thread there...

>>52310831
That has nothing to do with linux but you can replace a cooler whenever

>>52310831
I think you meant to ask it in >>>/sqt/

No, absolutely not.
Just be careful, avoid electrostatic charge that wrecks havoc in delicate electronics.
Also make sure to have thermal paste (a small tube of 5g will last you for many uses) , it's a good practise to replace it when taking off the radiator.

Common sense anon

>>52310831
You'll be able to replace the cooler just fine, as long as you don't do something stupid and use superglue instead of thermal paste.

>>52310860
http://redeclipse.net/

>>52310875
>>52310873
>>52310867
yeah my bad wrong thread, but thanks anyway

>>52310860
KOTOR2 is brilliant. As long as you use Content Restoration Mod and accept the fact it isn't fully done anyway. Still, it's brilliant.
I mostly play Crypt of the Necrodancer, emulator stuff, occasionally Kerbal Space Program and my dorm neighbor recently hooked me on Minecraft on his heavily modded server.
Also, remember running Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri for a game once.

>>52310860
World of Goo
Puzzle games (like tis 100
and n64 emulator (zelda and mario64 pretty much).

I use a ps3 controller for the emulator, the fact that it works right out of the box on linux is kind of nice.

But I play games very rarely

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>>52309395
I've had broken dependencies in apt only when I was a complete fucktard noob.

Not had it happen in about 3 years.

>>52309505
>I'm ascared of the CLI
>I don't know how to apt-cache search

>>52309864
>not knowing how to compile a fucking program

>>52310376
Consumerism is a disease. This is true.
Behold, my laptop of 8 years. Still works fine.

>>52310831
You can change coolers without damaging the cpu. Just turn the PC off while doing it. Also pay attention to the thermal paste. Sometimes it sticks to the old cooler so it might need to be replaced.

>>52310881
Interesting. I'll check it out. I'm really looking forward to the new Unreal Tournament

>>52310860
Elona

>>52310860
this year i am waiting for witcher 3, no mans sky (murray pls gibe GNU/Linux support), kingdom come - deliverance, planet nomads and ark survival.

>>52310953
>witcher 3
Same. I have a key from when I bought my GTX 960. Wondering if it'll work for a Linux version because I never redeemed it. On the plus side, if they take forever, I'll have a Pascal card by then

>>52311037
gonna play this with free amd drivers no matter what. do you have the steam version or the gog version?

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>>52310937
>Behold, my laptop of 8 years. Still works fine.
Same here, 8 years, still going. Last year replaced the dead battery.
I think It'll probably serve 2 more and maybe I'll replace it with something newer.

It just looks like trash, grey silver painted with shiny silver doesn't work well in the long run.

If I could get my hands on on some space-efficient, used office prebuilt for cheap It would be great.
I would add an SSD to boot the OS and call it a day

>>52308859
nigga who tf gives a shit about this? truth is some people like using Linux, some like using Mac OS, some like Windows why tf you think some shitty lil numbers gonna change their opinion? It aint a logical decision, it's a feeling you get when you use the OS, and some numbers aint gon change that familia

Can anyone help me? I get this message when I try to start mpd.

fatal_error: Failed to create pid file "/home/bj/.mpd/mpd.pid": No such file or directory

>>52308859
Nigger if you have the balls reply to your posts instead of dropping a spam and running away like a little kid

>>52311098
You have to create every file/directory that you list in the mpd settings. They can (and should) be empty when you first create them, but you DO have to make them.

>>52308974
>My number is right because I said so

>>52310530
>arch is the best beginners distro there is
When I started I couldn't figure out how to compile a program or why gcc couldn't find a header (I didn't have a '-dev' version of a package installed). I was around 12 at the time, but it's NOT a good idea to start with arch. I could barely figure out Ubuntu (which was not total shit back then).

>>52310831
It won't damage the CPU. You'll want new thermal compound though.
I just use stock - the i5-3350p's stock fan is pretty quiet and the CPU itself runs pretty cool anyway (69 watts TDP).

>>52310860
Quake (1), Pokemon Blue, Castlevania III, Parasite Eve, Star Wars Battlefront (the old one, not II and not the EA one), since it works in Wine really well and you can configure your /etc/hosts file to do multiplayer without gamespy.

I've played Red Eclipse some, of course. Was pretty good too. I just never got bored playing Quake.

>>52311079
Neat. Mine's a Dell Latitude D630, btw.
I can see yours is Fujitsu, I've never had one of their laptops but I've heard they're pretty great.
...is that a 4:3 screen? What resolution?
I've also got a Latitude D610, which is older by a year, but runs at a lower temperature and has a parallel port (great for old legacy DOS programs and hacking). It has a 4:3 1024x768 screen.

I love 4:3, personally. Wish they made larger resolutions of it.

There's a desktop 1:1 1920x1920 LCD out there (EIZO), but it costs big bucks.

My latitudes both came from my old high school - I was friendly with the IT department and they let me pick up a stack of broken laptops. I swapped parts until I had several working ones.

>>52311152
Which numbers are wrong? I don't remember giving specific numbers, just saying that the claim that "almost all" devices did not have software support in linux was wrong.

>>52311053
Looks like GOG

Is it advisable to enable ufw on Mint?

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>>52311191
pic related

>>52311191
>I can see yours is Fujitsu, I've never had one of their laptops but I've heard they're pretty great.
Well, I can't tell but from my experience, fujitsu's consumer models are higher quality than consumer models from toshiba or dell or hp
Its an Amilo Pi2530.

>...is that a 4:3 screen? What resolution?
16:10, 1280x800, so pretty weak. I hope to replace it with a desktop monitor, at least a HD one.
3:2 would be the perfect ratio tho.

>My latitudes both came from my old high school - I was friendly with the IT department and they let me pick up a stack of broken laptops. I swapped parts until I had several working ones.
bought it used, 500GB drive full to the brim with westerns and spaghetti westerns.

By far the biggest culprit with this device is the fact that originally it shipped with Vista.
And because some retarded deal between intel and Microsoft, it requires AHCI drivers to be installed.
So in order to install XP on it I had to make a custom installation ISO with nlite.
And in order to install 7 I had to take another fucking computer, put the HDD, install windows, use regedit to enable AHCI mode and then put the HDD back in fujitsu.

Linux doesn't have this problem fortunately.

i'd like to switch from windows to linux but i can't get my usb 4g modem to work
where should i ask for help

>>52311384
>Well, I can't tell but from my experience, fujitsu's consumer models are higher quality than consumer models from toshiba or dell or hp
Good to know.
I think the latitude counts as a business model - not consumer. In any case, aluminum frame/casing, a trackpoint clone, serial port on the back, IEEE 1394 port on the side, and an almost thinkpad-tier keyboard (and it has the nice normal-positioned navigation key cluster). I love it.

I had an inspiron 1420 at one point (consumer dell), it died about a week after the warranty ran out. Never again.

I thought it was 4:3, must be your lens or something.
My D630 has a 1280x800 screen as well, but I think it may be possible to get a 1440x900 screen in there, based on the way my controller board looks.

>500gb
nice. Mine's a lowly 120. I've got ~6 TB total of hard disks in my server desktop though, so that's where I hold most of my stuff.

>By far the biggest culprit with this device is the fact that originally it shipped with Vista.
Ah, yeah. the AHCI thing. My laptops have a BIOS setting to switch to IDE emulation - it's what I used when I needed XP.
Now it's debian sid only, though.

>>52311519
Phone tethering's a safer bet, I think, but I've only ever tried expresscard modems. Maybe USB is a bit better. Sorry I can't help more.

>>52311519
Are you sure it's not kernel drivers?
I'm using a USB 4G modem too, and once I took care of the drivers, it basically started to manage it all by itself.
Mine used Wimax drivers, I think.

>>52311618
>Are you sure it's not kernel drivers?
i don't know what that means

are there any ideal, convenient setups for playing doom+wads? i play doom a lot on windows with gzdoom, but haven't yet got it on linux.

>>52311655
Basically, drivers.
It's just that drivers are technically part of the kernel. It's just that not all of them are included by default.
In any case, what kind of modem do you even have? Also, try searching for "wimax" in your package manager.

>>52310937
>linux newfriend thread
>insulting newfriends
Please leave, thanks.

>>52308839
>>52308835
Add "pci passthrough" to the wiki

How do I end ncmpcpp?

>>52311816

pkill ncmpcpp

>>52311704
>what kind of modem do you even have?
huawei E5372 "mobile wifi"
it's connected to 4g, plugging it in usb starts charging its battery and lets the computer use the internet connection
it shows up as an ethernet device in windows when the drivers are installed
>try searching for "wimax" in your package manager
i don't have internet connectivity on the computer i want to install linux on
i'm in a ubuntu live session and haven't installed it yet since i don't know if i'll get the modem to work

>>52311874
Type "lsusb" in a terminal, and post the output.

>>52308859
Your answer is Ubuntu

>Stability with feature freeze
>Upgradeable with backport PPAs

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>>52311693
There's shitloads of ports of the original doom engine on Linux.

Hell, the actual source code released by carmack under GPL which all doom engines and clones in existence was a Linux version.

If you want to play vanilla doom1, doom2, hexen heretic try chocolate-doom port, it should be in every distro's repositories by default.

For more advanced functionalities and modern WADs there are other ports as well.

What is a Linux native game with decently good graphics? I have a VMware VM going and I want to test the 3D capability? I can't get Steam to start for some reason, Google tells me it's because of their packaged libs. So it'd be nice if it was non-steam.

>>52308932
Linux haters blown the fuck out

>>52311994
Well, you could just download some casual shit like dota, try out different graphical presets and check the framerates you're getting on them to determine what kind of performance you're getting.

That's at least what I would do.

>>52311823
thanks.

>>52311943
>Bus 001 Device 005: ID 12d1:1506 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. Modem/Networkcard

How do I mount a windows partition as read-write in the "mount" command?

Need to put some important files in my window$ drive before I uninstall arch and unironically install gentoo

>>52312102
What distro?
Does network manager show anything?

>>52311948
>shilling Amazuntu
fuck off

>>52312168
-rw flag

Or if you just need to do a single operation, just use root account to copy the files

>>52312195
>fuck off
fixubuntu.com

>>52312217
Kek, so we are doing the windows thing now?
>install shitOS
>things to do after install: remove shit
Jesus christ.

>>52312102
Try out installing wvdial, or modemmanager, or usb_modeswitch if the ones before don't work.
You would need Internet to download these, though.
Apparently many Huawei models work both as USB stick contatining (useless for you) Windows drivers, and as modem, but it seems your Linux correctly detects it as a modem. usb_modeswitch is supposed to "flip" the internal switch, but not sure if actually the problem.
I don't actually have any idea if what I just said was good advice. It's just what Google said. Might be worth a try.

I've thinking of using a Linux distro for my new PC, but one of my friends said Linux is shit for gaming. Can I game on Linux?

ProTip

Always create a large ntfs-formatted "media" partition if you're dual booting. Linux and Windows will both be able to write to and read the shared partition.

You'll also want to use the following variables for NTFS:

rw,iocharset=utf8,big_writes

>>52312202
Still read-only

even in root.

>>52312327
What do these do?

>arch is for webbs
>shillng spywarebuntu
>fedora has no packages
>free as in freedom distros don't work
>lossing shit when someone mentions manjaro
something is wrong on this board

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>>52312326
Hello friend.
I made a special flowchart that hopefully will help in clearing all your doubts whether you should or should not use Linux on a desktop computer.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask, we're here to help you.

>>52312329
You're using ntfs-3g as a driver, right?

>>52312343
>>arch is for webbs
neckbeards

>>shillng spywarebuntu
just flip the switch

>fedora has no packages
install rpmfusion

>>free as in freedom distros don't work
well, if you're dedicated to freedom you should start with the hardware.

>>lossing shit when someone mentions manjaro
fuck off manjaro dev

>>52312352
I'm definitely not a hardcore gamer, and would certainly like to learn something new.

>>52312357
Unsure,

still kinda new to this whole linux thing

Heard Gentoo is more stable than arch and want to try it

Heard the impossible installation process for gentoo is just a meme

>>52312377
Just dualboot

>>52312377
then have fun. you can game on GNU/Linux but you can't play every game in existance.

>>52312386
gentoo is a source based installation with a source based package management.

Installing packages isn't like in binary based distros where you just download the package and it installs.

On gentoo you download the source code, compile on your machine and then install.

Every
single
one.

So good luck anon, depending on your PC, firefox can take up to 2 hours to compile

>>52312377
Look up the games you play/want to play and see if they have SteamOS/Linux support. Simple

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>>52312190
latest ubuntu downloaded from their site about an hour ago
>network manager
what's that

>>52312318
i did "usb_modeswitch -J" with the device and re-plugged it
now it shows my ISP and "LTE" in this dropdown but won't connect to the internet
the wlan from the device still works though but my desktop doesn't have that

>>52312270
Use kubuntu, then.

Personally, i use Antergos and Manjaro.

I started out using Ubuntu then Linux Mint. Then, i wanted free internet so i started cracking with BackTrack3.

Then i tried some other distros like Elementary OS, until i reached Arch Linux and fell in love with the AUR.

So, there you go, I'm not some Ubuntu fanboy, I just recommend noob distos to Linux noobs.

>>52312420
K looked up how to fix the read only

sorry for bothering anyone

anyway, I already tried the gentoo install in a vm at one point

It was difficult, but not meme difficulty.

>>52312452
>I just recommend noob distos to Linux noobs.
see
>>52309864

Didn't this used to be called the Friendly Unix Thread?

My server's boot drive is failing, I'm going to take the chance to be rid of the Debian meme forever and install FreeBSD.
Am I to understand that I can only mount an ext4 filesystem as read-only on FreeBSD? The only information I could find regarding the matter are forum posts form 2011, and a lot can happen in 5 years.

>>52312420
Well, technically, nothing stops you from installing binary packages in case you have them.
I'm not sure if portage holds binary packages somewhere in a mirror either since I never used the feature.
In any case, while some packages are really heavy, most of them have a binary version as a separate package, and if you try to leave the heavier ones for night with --keep-going parameter, it's not actually that noticeable, since most packages compile in a minute or two on my i7. Libreoffice and llvm are the worst exceptions, really; even the firefox is not actually that bad, but libreoffice compiles for hours. Kinda tempted to use binary version from now on.
Oh, also you can use whatever other package manager you want there too, but in this case it would hardly be gentoo. Half the Gentoo is just the portage and the system it brings.

>>52310881
Everyone keeps trying to revive the classic arena shooter but it has failed over and over again.
Accept it, the new genre is dead.

>>52312497

unix == linux

>>52312505
>quaranteed replies

>>52312340
Sorry if this reply is slow, I'm posting on Android

rw,iocharset=utf8,big_writes

These varibles make a ntfs partition:
>readable and writable
>Use utf8 encoding for filenames
>Enables big, concentrated writes which lowers CPU usage on Linux

>>52312498
*most of them have a binary version
Meaning, almost all of the heavier ones have. Firefox, Libreoffice and Icedtea, for example, but no llvm or lvm2 or mesa.

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>>52312447
bruh

Is there a media player for Linux that automatically adjusts volume like mp3gain ?

>>52311948
>stability by requiring an erase and fresh install every few months
meanwhile, my rolling release install from three years ago still runs, and the one time I tried upgrading to another version of Ubuntu (by changing my sources.list) I ended up with a system that couldn't even start X11.

>>52311994
w/o steam? I don't know. What distro is this that can't handle it?

Oddly enough my problem is the reverse: my packages are too up to date for vmware to be able to run on my Linux host.

>>52312168

mount -o rw /dev/sdWhatever /mount/point

or if it's already mounted at for example /mount/point, you'd do

mount -o rw,remount /mount/point

Everyone wants noobs to use Arch Linux but even i had trouble with Arch as a beginner so i can't recommend it.

>>52312618
mpv has a plugin for it iirc

>>52312538
i didn't have to set up the connection like that in windows
the device's wlan is working so it is already connected to the internet

>>52312654
>>mpv has a plugin for it iirc
can confirm
>drc

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>install Ubuntu
>cant find any firewall online
>feel naked

>>52312716
iptables

>>52312662
the modem also showed up as an ethernet device in windows even though it's connected via usb
i don't know how to make it do that in ubuntu though

>>52312625
Stock xubuntu. It complains it can't start the video driver, then complains it can't start the software fallback. using the open-vmx packages. May try the vmware tools ones.

>>52312716
ufw

>>52312996
ufw is total shit

Anyone set up the unified AMDGPU kernel driver with Powerplay support for newer AMD cards?

You need to reconfigure the 4.5 kernel and install the latest mesa and llvm.

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMDGPU-PP-4.5-Steps

There's a PPA for ubuntu 15.10 for the latest mesa and llvm

https://launchpad.net/~paulo-miguel-dias/+archive/ubuntu/mesa/

Guy who will install gentoo here.


Should I use the minimal install cd, the hybridiso,
OR install the "system rescue cd", which is sometimes used to install gentoo.

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This is a fresh debian net install with only SSH and System Tools installed. No GUI, no nothing.

Why the fuck is 1.6GB already in use?

>>52313143
post output of free -h

Can I have a quick resume on how works startx, initx and their differences?

I got (after try a lot) to put a DE as I wanted from having nothing (old debian version, no GUI at all, just terminal) and I had to use the defaults conf files, although I read lots oof times I should use my home's.

Thanks mates.

>>52313143
NSA

>>52308835
Looks like I went balls deep.

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>>52313253

>>52313315
the fuck

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>>52313463
yeah I have no idea.
I set up a media center with Plex on it and it idles at 90% memory usage. Granted thats only got 1GB of memory on it so I thought it was all the extra services I didnt need, so I threw this onto a VM with only SSH and it's still going nuts.

is it possible to directly save my torrents from my raspbian torrendbox to my centos homeserver?

I have no idea how to address the folder ;_;

>>52313666
Share a folder on your centos box and use NFS.
Or use Samba. I personally find Samba way fuggin easier to set up and use.
Then just mount the remote folder and default your storage to it.

>>52313527
>VM
Where the fuck do you think it's going to cache shit?

>>52313713
Onto swap, like it would on a physical machine?
This is literally running nothing. This is screenshots of the VM itself, not me running a VM on that machine.

>>52313831
What does

cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness

return?

>>52313884
Thread doesn't belong on page 5 so bump

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I am getting random crashes while watching videos in ubuntu. The whole screen goes red and the computer hangs completely. I don't have this problem on dual booted windows.

Suggestions? Buy new video card?

>>52314082
Here is my ancient video card:

root@x1x-VirtualBox:~# lshw -c video
  *-display               
       description: VGA compatible controller
       product: Juniper XT [Radeon HD 5770]
       vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
       physical id: 0
       bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
       version: 00
       width: 64 bits
       clock: 33MHz
       capabilities: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
       configuration: driver=radeon latency=0
       resources: irq:31 memory:d0000000-dfffffff memory:fbbc0000-fbbdffff ioport:b000(size=256) memory:fbba0000-fbbbffff

I want to edit some android kernel files and I'm using Sublimetext3. Loading the entire kernel as a project, in the defconfig file there are flags like
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ=y
and then in the source files it should only enable any code inside #ifdef CONFIG_CPU_FREQ and gray out the others. Is this even possible? Is there a a plugin for Sublimetext or any other C editor that can do this?

>>52313255
Can I have a friendly reply, please? I would like to understand a little better this two things.

Something weird is happening to my wired internet connection.

-Was using ubuntu mate, internet worked fine.
-Format and Install xubuntu, connection is slow, webpages take a few second before they start loading.
-Format and reinstall ubuntu mate again, the problem still persists.

What the fuck did I do by installing xubuntu? Any idea?

>>52314143
maybe your older drivers were better?

>>52314137
just use startx if a fucking display manager is not haxxor enough

How do you customize where packages are installed or is this something I should do?

I don't want every app I download to go to places where I would forget them. I'd rather keep them in a single /apps directory and add them to my path. Should I manage things this way, if I should what is a sane way to do this?

>>52314334
when you "./configure" you add the new install path as a parameter and after that "make install" copies the binaries to that path.

>>52314334
when you run a the configure script you can set the location with --prefix= option

Your package manager usually installs to /usr/bin (--prefix=/usr)
If you want a separate directory for the applications you've compiled use --prefix=/usr/local/

>>52314334
packages (or at least symlinks to them) usually end up in /bin or /usr/bin, both of which should be in your path.

Worst case if you remember part of a package name you can just grep those two folders.
Usually tab autocomplete is good enough.

>>52314366
I'm rather inexperienced and couldn't follow that. I'm using yum and I couldn't find a config file for it under ~/.config , should I just create one?

>>52314334
If you're talking about the binaries, just mv them to your /apps directory and add /apps to your PATH.
If you're installing from source, use --prefix=/apps in when you ./configure and read up a little bit about the FHS.

I'm using NordVPN but I have the problem that it sometimes disconnects

Is it possible to cut internet connection entirely evey time it does this so that I don't torrent with my own public ip? Or are there any other things I can do to prevent this?

Also what do I do against evil chinese bots that want to acces my server? install fail2ban?

>>52314429
>in /bin
run

file /bin

friend

>>52314430
>yum
you are doing wrong. In Tux land it's 3 steps to install any program.
./configure
make
make install

>>52314493
In your dreams.
>implying every linux program uses Makefiles

>>52314488
>or symlinks to them
Can you read?

>>52314185
I just want to understand things, not helping with rice or some shit. What does each package and no more.

>>52314536
>install Linux
>use it as Windows
cool story bro

>>52314334
>>52314436

Also
>Should I manage things this way
Not really, unless you have a specific need to do so (no write access, for example.)
Since you're doing it just because you're likely to forget, you probably shouldn't. Read the FHS article on Wikipedia, and use man "program" if you find yourself forgetting where config files are stored.

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This empty command terminal launches and returns three empty lines after post and before my os loads. It started happening after I installed linux and now I cannot seems to remove it or figure out what it is. I have reflashed my bios, formatted my hard drives and installed mint17.2, debian 8.2 and windows 7. Does anyone know what it is and how to remove it?

>>52314576
>installing everything from scratch, even large packages such as firefox
If there is a botnet in there, you're certainly never going to find it all by yourself.

If you don't trust a distro to make clean packages, why the fuck to you trust them to make a clean OS?

>>52314614
Maybe I'm talking out of my ass, but I#m going to out on a limb here and say it's just your bootloader, and you shouldn't worry about it unless it takes a particularly long time to exit the state.

>>52314488

derp@localhost:~$ file /bin
/bin: directory

Did I miss something, do we put files in things other than directories now?

Absolute beginner
Buying a craptop and installing Gentoo. Any basic things I should get immidiately after installing? I want a decent work machine to learn from

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>>52314675
>/bin: directory
it should be a symlink to /usr/bin

>>52314763
Are you retarded or merely pretending?

>/bin: Essential command binaries that need to be available in single user mode; for all users, e.g., cat, ls, cp.
>/usr/bin: Non-essential command binaries (not needed in single user mode); for all users.

I don't think you should be arguing with the FHS.

>>52314756
>installing Gentoo.
Don't actually do this.

While Gentoo does have its benefits, the whole reason behind "lel install gentoo" is that -- because it's a source-based distro -- you have to build every package by yourself, and it takes a shitload of time for very little benefit.

If you want to "learn" the hard way, go with Linux From Scratch.

>>52314763
Found the arch user

>>52314827
Not him, but Arch just symlinks both /bin and /sbin to /usr/bin and both /lib and /lib64 to /usr/lib

>>52314763
What fucking distro are you using that /bin is a symlink to /usr/bin? /bin is for executables available in single-user (rescue) mode. /usr/bin is where your self-installed programs go, available in multi-user mode.

>>52314864
Thank you friend

Are there any timers for linux that have milliseconds? I want to test input lag.

>>52314870
You wouldn't be recommending meme distros that break standards now would you?

Nsnbrnw. Xenwb r ncbrlt qitlr tl l

>>52314884
Come back when you give up

>>52314930
cthulhu fhtagn

>>52314945
I'll be here. I'm majoring in cs so i don't think that I'm too dumb or weak willed

>>52313255
Bump

man

>>52314997
>>52315023
forgot muh shift+ins

"You may want to add android-studio/bin/ to your PATH environmental variable so that you can start Android Studio from any directory."

I'm trying to download Android studio for linux. What does this mean exactly and how do I do it? Sorry I'm a noob

>>52315087
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Path_%28computing%29
export PATH=/path/to/whatever:$PATH

Anyone familiar with i3? If I have a terminal window open and I run a windowed application like a web browser, it opens in a separate window. Is it possible to make it run in the same window as the terminal that opened it?

>>52315087
Basically android studio is a bloated piece of... well it's not the worst IDE in the world, and it's better than any other option for developing for android but anyway.

Usually packages are put into /usr/bin, which is in your path, so if you type a program name the terminal knows to search in the folder than contains most of them.
Android studio is installed wherever you like really, but to avoid fuckups thats either in your home directory or maybe /opt.

It won't be in your path though, so in order to start it up you have to remember exactly where it is if launching from the terminal.
However, if you add the directory to your path, you can just start it up with ./studio.sh from anywhere you like.

You add things to the path like so:

export PATH=$PATH:/wherever/you/installed/it/

This will only apply to your current terminal, so you'll need to add it to a startup script to be permanent.

To be completely honest, you'll probably want to change directory into where studio is located when you use it anyway, so I never actually bothered with this myself.

>>52315261
What do you mean the same window?

Oh I understand. Press Win+W to have the tabbed mode.

>>52315261
No? How exactly would that work?
Terminal emulator is one application, a webbrowser is another.

>>52315329
I was thinking some way to push it into the background or something. Tabbed mode works, but I didn't want a bunch of useless terminals open just being used to run applications.

Maybe a better question would be if I can run multiple programs as background processes from one main terminal? I'm kind of new to Linux.

Does anyone know a good software for enabling various backgrounds in gnome?

>>52315592
dmenu

>>52315592
bruh just fucking win+d or alt+d depending on what you choose to be your modifier key.

And if it doesn't work, install dmenu (it should be a dependency of i3wm tho)

>>52315592
>Maybe a better question would be if I can run multiple programs as background processes from one main terminal? I'm kind of new to Linux.

$ myprog arg1 arg2 </dev/zero &>/dev/null &

>>52315669
>>52315743
>dmenu

Holy shit, so that's what that's for. Perfect.

>>52315835
>>52315592
You can send any program into the background by adding a "&".
Example:

urxvt &

urxvt is now sent to the background.
You can check for background jobs via
jobs
Then you get something like:

[1]+  Running                 urxvt &

You can bring it back by calling it's ID:
fg 1
Then you can close it as usual via CTRL+C

>>52316108
Oh, seems I misread the question. Well... nevermind.

Guys, whats the go-to music player to install in a fresh Debian GNOME setup? I don't want any strange function, just something straight forward. I wanted to install the eOS default player but he isn't available in the Jessie repositories yet.

>>52316935
You can use mpv as music and video player - if you just want to play something. For more jazz and GUI, check the installgentoo wiki.

What's the best distro for an old PC? Also, what's the best Desktop?

>>52316935
Clementine or Rhythmbox.

>>52316962
Since you can do everything you want on every distro, there is no "best" one.
You can install ubuntu, remove untiy, install i3 as hard example.
Good for older PCs is not to use heavy DEs like GNOME or KDE; choose something lightweight like Openbox or a tiling WM. The distro doesnt matter; they all run perfectly on old hardware.

>>52316935
DEADBEEF

>>52316999
I heard ArchLinux is the fastest distro(by best I meant fastest here), Is it just a meme?

>>52316958
>>52316971
>>52316999
Welp, 3 different suggestions in 3 posts.
I actually have mpv installed, how can I manage playlists if it doesn't have a GUI?

>>52317070
get deadbeef, it's the foobar2000 for lunix

>>52317050
arch is not the fastest, it's the most lightweight because all you get after a fresh instastall is a commandline.

>>52317070
create pls or m3u file and
mpv muh.m3u

>>52317070
Our wiki is NOT a meme!
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software#Music_players

>>52309953
Epic counter argument
>>52309966
How much did distrolet (antergos) shills pay you for this?

>>52317070
Trying out Deadbeef right now.

I like that it's very dependency-lite. Besides the music format dependencies, it pulls almost nothing else. If you already have a music player, you'll probably just need to download/install the actual Deadbeef client and you'll be good to go.

How do I get infinality/better font rendering in Arch?

So. I can't get rid of Windows because of gaming and because i most use some software that won't work on Linux for my job. Is it still worth to dual-boot?

>>52309953
Its funny how the installation wiki of antegos is a broken page since 3 years and no one memes about it
I gues the manjarofags are not as much in the edgy teenage stage as the antergosfags.
Kororra went down atleast 3 times
Even mint went down a few days ago

>inb4 mint
Just deal with it. If you are not exclusively using Mint or any other practical distro you are a college student or a typical NEET

>>52317756
Yes, you have to dual boot for those stated reasons

>>52317719
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Infinality#Installation

I won't go into the details, but essentially:
1) Add the infinality repositories listed in the link to /etc/pacman.conf
2) Add the key ID to pacman's keyring
3) Refresh the databases with "pacman -Sy". You should see the infinality repositories listed
4) Install, via pacman (so, pacman -S), infinality-bundle, infinality-bundle-multilib if you're on x64, ibfonts-meta-base, ibfonts-meta-extended and ibfonts-meta-extended-lt.
5) Restart Xorg (either by killing and restarting it or just rebooting).

>>52317719
http://www.freedesktop.org/software/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.html

I can't stop distro-hopping.
I'm able to get shit done on pretty much any distro now, and I have no real reason to use one over the other.
Which should I use?

http://strawpoll.me/6486691

>>52318068
Gentoo

>>52318068
>http://strawpoll.me/6486691
>Go to strawpoll
>MFW no TempleOS

>>52317821
>>52317859

Thanks!!

>>52318068
Install arch, don't fall far the memes
If you are going to pick the only OS you'll use, rather pick any LTS distro

>>52317798
What i meant to ask is if it's really worth instlaling Linux if i'm using Windows so much anyway. What would be a advantages of doing so?

>>52318068
install gentoo, nerd

>>52318143
nice face
I agree though, he should've put TempleOS there

>>52310124
>some webdev, who has nothing to do with distro deveopment
I think you need to look at who Phillip Muller is.

>>52318184
>templeos
>gnu/linux
wouldn't tell terry that

>>52318324
only terry can guide us to god

why does my terminal not use Crt+v Crt+C?
My arrow keys also do not work. Can I change/fix that?

>>52318469
tried properties?

Hello /g/ I need your help.

My debian installation is taking forever to boot because it hangs for several minutes on "A start job is running for Create Volatile Files and Directories" I have tried googling the problem and most forums came up with the working solution of deleting and re-creating the /tmp directory:

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=118008

Thing is, I keep getting the "cannot remove /tmp' device or resource busy" error. I have tried lsof and umount as listed in this forum: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/11238/how-to-get-over-device-or-resource-busy
but none of that worked either.

This is my output for df:

Filesystem     1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1      117913932 111901208         4 100% /
udev               10240         0     10240   0% /dev
tmpfs            1630924      9984   1620940   1% /run
tmpfs            4077308      1232   4076076   1% /dev/shm
tmpfs               5120         4      5116   1% /run/lock
tmpfs            4077308         0   4077308   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
tmpfs             815464        16    815448   1% /run/user/1000

pls help

>>52318499
haha thanks

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>>52308835
Why the hell is my shit in firefox so fucking small? I changed literally all settings in preferences and nothing helps except the zoom keyboard shortcut but I have to do it every time.

>>52319167
nevermind I fixed that shit.

>>52318553
bump

>>52318469
Ctrl-V and Ctrl-C have fairly standardized meanings for terminal programs that predate Windows entirely. Usually you want Ctrl-Shift-C and Ctrl-Shift-V for copy and paste.

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How do I add the KDE menu to cairo-dock?

So I just installed arch on my odroid X and I want to use it for airplay audio from my iphone
Ive installed kodi and followed this guide but im stuck
http://kodi.wiki/view/AirPlay
how do I get airplay to work? people online said it should just werk™ but it isn't

>>52311771
>calling my past self a complete fucktard

>>52313143
>1.6GB in use
This site could help explain things. It's using RAM you aren't for disk catching. Linux will fuck off and let you use that space if you start approaching 100% usage.
http://www.linuxatemyram.com/

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Reading this, it's quite entertaining

>>52314102
If it didn't do it before and you haven't messed with your X server recently, it may be time.

I'd like to change my SO. I'm currently dual-booting Windows/Linux. Distro is Debian 7.9(wheezy) with KDE. It's quite fucked up, lots of issues(some that I could solve) and is not nice at all.
What does /g/ suggest?

>>52320578
If you feel comfortable enough with Linux, make the jump to Arch

>>52314614
could be you have the 'quiet' option in your linux boot. Remove that from '/usr/share/grub/default/grub' or manually remove it by entering the 'EDIT' mode in grub when you boot.

If you change the config file, to make it permanent run 'update-grub' afterwards.

>>52314870
>Arch just symlinks both /bin and /sbin to /usr/bin
dear LORD, that is terrifying. Debian at least got one thing right: It kept the single-user mode holy.

>>52314763
I am so sorry you have to live that way, where if a sh update breaks then you're SOL.

/g/'day lads

I'm trying to make my own commands for terminal and have a little trouble. I've created this at ~/bin:

#!/bin/bash 
alias alt='ls -alt"
echo " text is here"

I type in the file name 'lalt' in as a command and "text is here" comes up fine but when i type alt nothing happens. Do i have to put the alias command in .profile or am i being retarded and missing something?

>don't care about being bleeding edge, want something that I can set up and then not mess with
>...but not quite as old as Debian stable, that's just a bit too old
>it's a plus if it comes in an Xfce version

what distro do I want?

>>52316958
or mplayer because it doesn't confuse a simple media player with quicktime for linux.

>>52320612
So recently i've been trying to get into using the web crawler framework scrapy. I use pip install scrapy and it goes fine but when I try to run the command scrapy startproject tutorial it tells me that scrapy isn't installed at all.

Why would that be?

>>52320628
Osx

>>52320588
I do feel comfortable with Linux. Should I jump to the latest Arch or just a stable version?

Also, how do I list the installed packages on konsole? I'll probably install all the build-essentials+opencv+matlab and some latex editor. Thanks in advance

>>52320612
Save aliases into ~/.bashrc.
Restart Terminal.
If you have lots of aliases, it's a good idea to use ~/.bash_aliases.

>>52320634
>mplayer
The day when you read the source of this thingy, you will see why mplayer2 and later mpv was born.

About IceCat browser, what's the difference between these two releases:

icecat-38.5.2-gnu1.tar.bz2                    2015-12-26 05:49
icecat-38.5.2-gnu1.tar.bz2.sig                2015-12-26 05:49

icecat-38.5.2.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2      2015-12-26 05:49
icecat-38.5.2.en-US.linux-x86_64.tar.bz2.sig  2015-12-26 05:49

I'm on limited data cap so if I can save 180MB I wouldn't mind it, but I guess there's a reason why that pack is so big? I installed OpenSUSE last week and I want to try some FF alternative for once, this looked nice.

About OpenSUSE, I used the version that comes with Gnome DE but I think it was a mistake, it looks very minimal, can I install another DE without reinstalling OpenSUSE from scratch?

I wanted to try Cinnamon though I cannot download it from the Linux partition because I didn't fix internet for it yet and I don't plan to use internet on Linux till I feel safe enough (I probably left some backdoor-tier settings enabled).

How should I go about installing Cinnamon manually? terminal or something else? I'm on dual-screen setup if it makes any difference.

Also about the OpenSUSE, I changed the root password from terminal and it works well, but it still keeps asking the old password on the user login screen. How do you change the login password?

Last but not least question: opinion on OpenSUSE distro?

>>52320677
>Should I jump to the latest Arch or just a stable version?
What? There's literally no such thing as "stable Arch", it's always latest.
You download a monthly snapshot, update the packages, you got yourself the latest Arch.

Next thread: >>52320725

>>52320697
The reason i mentioned .profile was because there is no .bash_profile or .bashrc listed when using ls -a, nethier is .bash_aliases but i imagine that's something user created. I've added the aliases to the end of .profile though and still nothing. On Mint, Cinnamon 17.3

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>>52317111
damn small linux is smaller.

Still, point taken, arch is relatively small.

>>52317756
Dual boot for learning.

>>52318068
Debian sid. I'm not taking a poll. Use debian.

>>52318469
Last I checked, outside of windoze 10 ctrl+c in a windows comand prompt was 'abort' as well. Not even sure how you abort programs without doing a ctrl-break in 10 now.

anyway, ctrl+c and ctrl+v have ascii control sequences in linux/unix that go all the way back to the first terminals.

Copy/paste is usually ctrl+shift+c and ctrl+shift+v.

Pictured: my old terminal, on right. Model IBM 3161.

>>52320578
Debian sid and do it right from the start this time. Wheezy is pretty outdated now.

>>52320628
Debian testing or unstable.
Not out of date, XFCE's an option.

>>52320713
they both forked mplayer - they did not start over. They inherited whatever bad code mplayer may have.

>>52320714
One's a signature file, one's the actual tarball with the program inside.

Try MATE, it's awesome.

Anyway, if you want to get a DE and don't have any internet connection, good luck. Either build from source copied via flash drive, or set up internet first.

>>52320763
What does the IBM run?

>>52320763
>>Debian testing or unstable.
>Not out of date, XFCE's an option.
eh, that's what I kinda suspected. testing it is then I guess. ty anon

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>>52320763
>One's a signature file, one's the actual tarball with the program inside.
I forgot the size, pic related.

>Try MATE, it's awesome.
It it compatible with OpenSUSE?

>Either build from source copied via flash drive, or set up internet first.
I have some experience with compiling stuff in MinGW, is it the same? are there any things I've to know beforehand or can I just ./configure, make and install my way into it?

>>52320778
It's a terminal, it runs whatever the computer it's connected to is running.

Are you unfamiliar with what terminal windows on linux actually do?

Terminal windows like rxvt, gnome-terminal, mate-terminal, xterm, etc. are all actually terminal emulators - they pretend to be real hardware devices made in the 1970s through the 1990s that connected to either a modem or another computer via RS-232 serial cables and provided many users access to the same central computer (this is called a 'time sharing' system). The terminal has very little processing capability of it's own, it acts as an interface between a user and the server/host he is connected to.

I can play text based games with it, like Rogue and Zork, but only because I compiled programs for my desktop PC it's connected to.

>>52320837
OpenSUSE? ew. I wouldn't do it, but yeah, it should be. It's open source and linux-based after all (It's been ported to cygwin's X11 environment too, actually).

It's extremely similar to mingw, if you used the MSYS environment. I actually started there, too. Built ffmpeg.

If you have required package dependencies, just ./configure, make, make install should work.

If you don't have a configure file, try running libtoolize and autoreconf first.

MATE from source is kinda painful and has lots of dependencies, though, so I'd get internet working before ANYTHING ELSE if I could afford it.

>>52320886
Opinions on manjaro?