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Guess I'll reiterate the issue I was working on last thread.
How2 connect my laptop to my TV with HDMI on Gentoo?
On Fedora it would have two displays, the TV and the Laptop.
Now it just has the laptop and the function key to switch the displays just turns the screen off. TV gets no signal.
Have an intel i915 video card.
xrandr says there's an HDMI output but I tried to switch with it and it just made my desktop 1920x1080 and it took a while for me to fix that.
>xrandr says there's an HDMI output but I tried to switch with it and it just made my desktop 1920x1080 and it took a while for me to fix that.
what did you actually tell xrandr?
also post output of xrandr
> xrandr --output HDMI1 --mode 1920x1080 --left-of LVDS1
> Screen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 1366 x 768, maximum 32767 x 32767
LVDS1 connected 1366x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 344mm x 193mm
800x600 60.32 56.25
DP1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
HDMI1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
VGA1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
VIRTUAL1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
Yeah, HDMI1 is disconnected because I don't have it plugged in ATM. It doesn't work when it's plugged in; I'm not retarded.
When it's plugged in it says HDMI1 connected.
It also lists a shitload of resolutions and framerates, same as LVDS1.
If anyone can help, I'd appreciate it.
Screen blinked, mouse is way more sensitive and can go offscreen.
I'm hopeful; My sister is using the TV now but I'll check the inputs in a sec
Aight, it's got input but it's tiled in 1366x768 squares. I'm assuming I just have to specify resolution in the command?
Fuckin' A, thanks mate!
Don't know what sort of funny pictures you like, but here's one from my folder.
>VM install goes well
>,arch isn't do bad
>try it on the x220
>EVERYTHING HORRIBLY WRONG
>uunexplainably just doest want to use sda1 as the boot drive
>insists on keeping my USB as the boot device even when its removed
>no WiFi. wifi-menu can't set anytthing up because of service errors. If I try to .Service anything the program throws a fit.
Is there a super minimulist distro that wpmt rape me? Preferably with open box or some other mainly terminal.environment.
thanks, heres are script for alternating both and on monitor#!/bin/bash
xrandr | grep $EXTERNAL_OUTPUT | grep " connected "
if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then
xrandr --output $INTERNAL_OUTPUT --auto --output $EXTERNAL_OUTPUT --auto --right-of $INTERNAL_OUTPUT
xrandr --output $INTERNAL_OUTPUT --auto --output $EXTERNAL_OUTPUT --off
then call the script when necessary
>insists on keeping my USB as the boot device even when its removed
Did you set the boot flag in parted/gparted on the partition you want it to boot?
Did you switch boot device in the BIOS?
I've never had wifi issues on my X220, so I can't help you with that one.
I was following directions from a video that worked on my VM on my PC, I'm just going to trying to understand the beginner guide again. I really font want to give up on running arch just because I'm having trouble setting it up.
> being this friendly
Holy shit. I wish there was some way I could adequately thank you.
If you need someone who knows how to get pictures off an apple or Android product, I'm your man.
Okay, here, is what I'm greeted by.[ 0.0254191] Ignoring BGRT: invalid status 0 (expected 1)
:: running early hook [udev]
starting version 228
:: running hook [udev]
:: Triggering uevents...
ERROR: device '' not found. Skipping fsck.
ERROR: Unable to find root device ''.
You are being dropped to a recovery shell
Type 'exit' to try and continue booting
sh: can't access tty: job control turned off
> no sound over HDMI
> HDMI codec enabled in kernel
> snd_hda_intel module
> Sound on speakers and headphones perfectly functional
> Check pavucontrol, no output available for HDMI
> check aplay -l**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC269VB Analog [ALC269VB Analog]
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
Googling around but not finding anything good Can anyone help? This is the last issue I need to fix before I can call my Gentoo install complete. On a laptop, if that matters.
I think you are right. Originally, I hadtitle Arch Linux
Now I havetitle Arch Linux
options root=PARTUUID=<insert> rw
where <insert> is the UUID of the root partition /dev/sda2 in the previous image. Now I get a somewhat different error: it's the same as my original one, but instead of '' it is '<insert>'
1. Setting up email in thunderbird.
2. "Unknown certificate" shows up.
3. Sha1 and MD5 checksums do not match while referencing other websites that display SSL certificates.
4. cancels fetch mail action.
I'm just trying to setup p0p3.
Anyway to verify the checksums of the SSL certificate?
am I being duped into accepting a SSL certificate?
pic semi-related - was a question I asked a few days ago and no one gave me a fucking answer.
I was happily dualbooting Windows 10 and Ubuntu 15.10 when I tried to 'upgrade' the W10 partition to the November 'Threshold' update after burning an ISO. Before it completed, I was thrown into grub_rescue with no possible way to boot to either partitions.
I used the Boot Repair disk (on a flash drive) and was able to successfully complete the upgrade.
The boot repair process seems to have wiped out grub -- I don't see it at all during boot -- and Windows sees my Linux partition as Free Space (pic related). Is there any way to recover my partition losslessly?
tou need to reinstall grub to MBR.
ive done similar with lilo so it is doable
let me go find some wikis
also do you still have the ubuntu install disk/jump drive? you will need it to mount and fix
Thanks. I don't have the W10, Ubuntu or BootRepair disks anymore. I should get them in a couple of days, hopefully this thread or the next one will be alive by then.
I look forward to your wiki links.
So I've been looking into Puppy Linux and one of the most controversial aspects of it is that it logs you in as root by default. But is it really such a stupid idea? Their manual (http://barryk.org/puppylinux/technical/root.htm) contains a bunch of interesting arguments about this and it runs internet applications as a pseudo-sandbox under a separate unprivileged user (spot).
Can a more advanced Linuxfag explain me some of the potential vulnerabilities/security holes that arise from such a setup, on a one-user home computer? (except for one's own stupidity in taking root lightly, obviously)
What is your choice of music player /flt/?
Is there even a media player with built in audio normalization or do you use different method to deal with that? If the latter, then how? It's really starting to piss me off how all my music has different volume.
There are a few homebrew solutions that can situationally lower the privileges (anti-sudo basically), for example http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=70111
What if I ran suspicious programs under that?
i have this in my .bash_aliasesif ! $_isroot; then
alias sudo='sudo '
alias root='sudo su'
alias reboot='sudo reboot'
alias halt='sudo halt'
alias pacman='sudo pacman'
alias vim='sudo vim'
why does it not work? vim wont edit files with sudo rights and pacman does also not work.
I can't get my wireless card to be recognized on Debian 8.2
I'm a complete linux noob and I can't seem to figure it out. I've logged on root, seemingly added a non-free repository, ran apt-get update, and I'm not sure what to do from here... If i could get wi-fi working I could troubleshoot the rest without trying to go back and forth between unplugging my computer to plug the ethernet into my thinkpad.
I know I'm an idiot for going into debian first but I wanted to 'learn' abit and I liked debian's approach
1. Check if $_isroot is actually declared anywhere
2. Check if bashrc loads bash aliases
3. Quick fix:
Savealias sudo='sudo '
alias root='sudo su'
alias reboot='sudo reboot'
alias halt='sudo halt'
alias pacman='sudo pacman'
alias vim='sudo vim'
into your ~/.bashrc
Additional, to load the aliases and function files, save this into your bashrc:# If there's a .bash_aliases file, enable it.
[[ -f $HOME/.bash_aliases ]] && . $HOME/.bash_aliases
# If there's a .bash_functions file, enable it.
[[ -f $HOME/.bash_functions ]] && . $HOME/.bash_functions
what I remember is it told me I needed nonfree drivers for my WiFi and that I could insert media to find them. I opted to just skip that because I didn't have any removable storage handy anyway.
Thanks for the help.
That line in my .bashrc was already there.
I found my mistake, i forgot a space after sudo vim and sudo pacman.
Still changed it a bitif [[ $EUID -ne 0 ]]; then
alias sudo='sudo '
alias root='sudo su'
alias reboot='sudo reboot'
alias halt='sudo halt'
alias pacman='sudo pacman '
alias vim='sudo vim '
It also named said drivers in the same message. Not sure how to check them past the installation in the system itself, but you can probably just look them up by your wireless adapter or whatever.
I'm not very excited about XFCE so I can't recommend xubuntu, but it isn't any worse than any other *buntu essentially. I'm a LXDE/LXQt fan.
You don't have much to lose, burn that shit on an USB, try it out for 30 minutes and decide whether it's for you.
The IRC channel is totally dead. No activity for a week, about 20 lines over the last month.
People get in here or recommend a channel or network that might actually be helpful.
so should I just drag my face through debian for a few days until I "get it" or can I learn sufficiently with xubuntu?
clearly this shit is easier, I'm on the live CD now and shit actually just works, amazingly enough
use which ever you prefer, i'm just giving a heads up.
since *buntu is based off debian, theyre almost interchangeable. but *butnu is usually a better starting point for new linux users.
i just prefer to have all my stuff working and not have to 'fix' things right after an OS install
>change to linux
>using i3 and am comfy
>realize linux for me is might as well be windows but with a tiling wm and some extra complications when installing stuff
not sure what i expected, cant go back to non tiling ever though
>Install OpenSUSE with KDE
>Only stable KDE aside from Arch, works with no freeze and glitches
>Kubuntu niggers absolutely blown the fuck out
>File-picker memers also absolutely blown the fuck out by default
had a much harder time installing drivers for windows 7 than for linux mint
>mfw finally clean dual-boot
I have Arch linux with KDE. I installed firefox using pacman, and I can launch it from the directory, but why isn't there a menu icon for it?
I am entirely new with linux.
Catching up on last thread
with some window compositors, shaders will work, I think. Not certain though, because shaders are stupid.
Just like windows, if you have admin privileges and you don't pay attention there'll be hell to pay.
Things in a distro and its package manager are just about always safe, and I can vouch for basically anything open source being safe that I've had to compile (emulators, ffmpeg, etc)
>Loonix wiped my 1TB disc
>I tried to duel [sic] install dumbass
You clearly didn't pay attention during setup then.
That's for a local tty and it doesn't capture the font or color of a monochrome CRT real terminal.
Okay thanks, it appeared. There's probably a reason it isn't automatically put under the 'internet' submenu, right?
Also this one has been bugging me for a long time. There should be a GUI for networkmanager but I can't find it anywhere. I've installed all the packages but it's like it still doesn't exist even though it says it is! I don't have a problem using wifi-menu but ther has to be a reason it's not working for me.
The second option, I have xubuntu iso and a dvd, now I just burn the iso to the cd? or am I supposed to click some boxes other ten just regular burn it?
I did look around but since I can only spare one dvd I can't afford to mess this up.
Also can someone tell me how installed programs work while using a live cd, like if I install wine then where does it go? and what happens to changes made to hard drive(deleting, moving files etc), if I can make any that is?
I am not an idiot but given lack of knowledge about subject I am pretty much a normie.
if you type nmtui into terminal and press enter, this should appear.
>I did check if I had plasma-meta and it says so.
then you should have the network icon in the system tray.
>So I search nmtui, it finds it and I launch it, nothing happens.
it's actually a TUI; not a GUI. it runs in a terminal.
Reinstall as in the whole system or what? I just installed it.
>using the ugliest and worst DE since the early 2000s
And to clarify, KDE is ugly because -- at this point -- it's basically a patchwork of ALL of the GUI features of Windows, OS X, and GNOME =<2. Even worse is the fact that it's by far the most bloated and memory-intensive DE there is by default.
And even worse than that, default KDE apps are garbage.
I don't really care about DEs, but Konqueror is fucking sweet. It's the only program from KDE I use. I wouldn't mind replacing it with something else, but nothing comes close.
Hey! I'm planning to get a Home Server (with Debian) soon, and I wondered why anons are using their home server for.
Since there's not /hsg/ I came here to ask to you, friendly folks. Thanks.
Oh boy you really don't mean you don't know KDE is the most customisable DE, do you?
I've had freezes in kubuntu but on Opensuse it us very stable
Don't care, I'm not a screen fetch whore
>What is Kate, kdevelop, k3b....
I like KDE very much, it's like windows but without all the unnecessary features. If I could run battlefield 4 using arch/kde I would stop using windows.
Sure maybe the apps could be better but I can live with installing a bunch of programs to replace default apps, that's what I've been doing for 20 years now.
Hey, it's the first time I install Linux Arch in a Virtual Box and I think something went wrong (picture related). What should I do? Can somebody help me out?
My home server is also my gaming desktop, actually. I don't get a lot of traffic. I do have an old IBM xSeries 236 upgraded to two 3.6GHz Xeons (netburst, it's a space-heater), but since it draws exponentially more current than my normal desktop does, that server's just been mining digital currencies all winter for warmth. Not gotten anything, but it's a great way to avoid having to fix my radiator. (also got an audio amp and a 20" CRT TV in my room)
I though SSH server was implcit because I though 90% of people will use ssh to manage its server and you need the ssh server. . .not?
That's a fucking great use, anon. Good job.
I forgot to add VPN, damn. Thanks anon. On a side, some newbie good rtorrent tutorials? Got to set it up, but DHT doesn't work for some reason.
Well, yeah. I use it sort of like a website, though.
There are a number of things a little like that. There is one person making an sshchan service, which is pretty comfy if I may say so myself.
debian stable with backports
using it mostly for storage and accessing that storage over the network/internet using smb, ftp and a web interface.
I'm interested in a solution for this >>52291400 problem on linux. Plebian here.
accidently and by being dumb i installed spyware and malware on wine. reimage and some shitty aps. Does it compromise my security? Does it autoboot?
Should i give a fuck about it. Whats is woring a saw .exe running as a root.
Running scripts that have to be always online (with an off-site server ready to pick up the work in case of a power loss).
It's a RPi currently, but I'm planning on buying something dedicated later.
OS is Arch in both places.
GPG encrypted emails, but that requires the platform to be NSA-free (you and your friends will have to run Linux/BSD, libreboot and open hardware).
If you want to chat with your friends, NSA will probably get the messages anyway if they want to.
signal (libresignal if you don't have google apps)
kontalk (android only)
other xmpp services/clients
telegram is better than nothing but their homemade encryption makes people skeptical
I understand how GPG works, actually maybe the best idea, since nobody is using some obscure messengers anyways, but 2 things:
so this means there are still NSA backdoors when using Linux?
All that it implies is that Linux doesn't guarantee safety. A proprietary bootloader or some hardware 'feature' in a chip (like the infamous Intel killswitch) may compromise your security. Mind you, this is going full tinfoil.
Please avoid using the term “google” as a verb, meaning to search for something on the internet. “Google” is just the name of one particular search engine among others. We suggest to use the term “search the web” or (in some contexts) just “search”. Try to use a search engine that respects your privacy; DuckDuckGo claims not to track its users, although we cannot confirm.
What would be the difference between sshd and sshchan?
How do you redirect smb and ftp thrhough router? I tried a couple of times but I didn't get it.
That's an interesting setup.
Why kind of scripts are you running 24/7?
bump the polls
>Why kind of scripts are you running 24/7?
I guess you can call them "web scrapers" for some personal projects. I don't want to miss any data, so that's why I run a VPS alongside my local RPi, just as a safety measure.
When does it make sense to create multiple Virtual Disks in a RAID5 array?
My first instinct would be to just have a single RAID5 VD and just create multiple partitions on that, but my PowerEdge R730 came with five Virtual Disks by default so I'm wondering what's a good reason for such a setup.
I have ten 1TB SATAs and I'm using RAID5 with a hardware RAID controller.
So the network manager issue still remains unsolved
That sounds really cool. I will look foward to it.
I don't know why but looks really nice to me to see someone who bothers to take all the measures to be safe.
>so this means there are still NSA backdoors when using Linux?
Of course they are you dumbass, they're platform independent because they're embedded in the hardware.
RdRand is compromised.
Intel Remote management.
>How do you redirect smb and ftp thrhough router? I tried a couple of times but I didn't get it.
with smb, you don't. bad idea.
for ftp, you need port forwarding for both the port your ftp server is running on and the passive ports it's using. for example, with proftpd you'd set ports like this:Port 1234
PassivePorts 42000 42100
and then forward the 42000-42100 range from your router.
you might also need this, with your IP:MasqueradeAddress 22.214.171.124
As a Mint babby, you already used Debian because Mind is a fork of Ubuntu, which is a fork of Debian. For advanced and bleeding edge fresh stuff go Arch. Nobody is using Fedora, except the one guy who will reply now.
So I have a problem I never found a solution for:
tl;dr compton issues
I want two things at once:
- clean region selection when usingimport screenshot.png
- no tearing when watching movies
Only one thing works:
- clean region selection using --backend xrender
- no tearing using --backend glx
Maybe old, but shit still works like it should.
For the last year I've had no luck booting any linux installation from a usb (old laptop).
While a CD/DVD disc works just as God told it to work.
Also make sure the iso isn't damaged, run a sha256sum on the file and compare with what the distro's download page says
I've been trying to install Linux Mint alongside Windows. I've tried this distro on a VirtualBox and it works fine. But when trying to install it with an USB my BIOS just hates me. I can either get to grub menu if I boot in EUFI mode, or to simple installation menu if I boot in Legacy mode, but in either one if I choose to run the OS or to check the disk I just get a couple generic errors and weirdest graphical artifacts. It works just fine on a different PC. I think the Compatibility mode option did work, but I just ended up with a command line; I don't know what to do with it. Web searches doesn't really give much.
What else can I try? Do you think I should just stop trying to make it work on this PC? It's an old 2010 motherboard but it runs other shit like Windows just fine.
All I can think of right now is connecting the monitor to the motherboard integrated gpu instead of the actual gpu.
I am trying out Mint today as the first linux distro I've used in 10 years. I like the interface and how resource friendly the system is. I am wanting to do a dual boot with win7. I have 40gb win7 partition on my ssd and want to devote the other 80gb to Mint. The installer keeps asking me if i mean to install without swap space. Is it critical that i do? Should i create a third partition on my drive for swap space? If so, how much? I'd appreciate any help.
>hould i create a third partition on my drive for swap space? If so, how much? I'd appreciate any help.
How much RAM do you have installed and how much RAM do you usually consume?
You expect to use more RAM than you have? Then you need swap, or otherwise something resource-eating will get killed by the system.
Swap could be of any size you want it to be. Half as much RAM you have is a common choice.
Important thing: things could get real slow if you put swap on a slow drive (read as: not an SSD). When things get moved to swap they need to go out fast, or the system will be choppy during those periods.
Thanks. I actually took a shot in the dark and ram so I have 8 gig swap. It's unlikely that I'll use that much memory.... but I suppose too much never hurts. I did put the swap on the ssd though
for the future reference
like seriously forget about it
this are some lame ass niggers that keep talking about swap the size of ram without mentioning that its only for hybernate bullshit
Why do distros store packages as binaries instead of source code?
Building binaries for Linux is a major pain in the ass because you have to support lots of different distros as well as lots of different architectures.
Is there any good reason not to store packages as source and then have the package manager compile them locally at install time? The only good reason I can think of is that installing from source would take a lot longer, but seeing as its a one-time affair that isn't a big deal.
(By the way, the reason I ask this is because for Haskell packages installed through cabal, it looks like cabal compiles from source, although I haven't been able to verify this so I could be totally wrong.)
don't let me fuck this up, /flt/
how do I add my own user to the sudo group and why is itroot ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALLinstead ofroot ALL=(ALL) ALL?
>and then have the package manager compile them locally at install time?
You mean every single person who ever wants to install the package.
If you really want to you always have the option of downloading the source and compiling it yourself.
But for any non-trivial project that is going to take a considerable amount of time. Why should I wait 5 minutes to compile something that is going to be functionally identical to a ready made binary?
Also, if you actually compile with optimisation levels as high as package managers, it's going to take longer than you expect.
If you trust a distribution to put together a good OS, why wouldn't you also trust them to compile software well?
Because it takes a shitload of time.
Sure, small packages compile crazy fast, 2 minutes and you're done.
But let's imagine you get an update for a behemoth like firefox?
With a PC that's few years old, 1h+ of your life gone because mozilla fixed a spelling error or some shit.
If you want a source based package management there's Gentoo for you.
Yeah, that might be the case. When you actually install, do double-check /etc/fstab and the whole grub configuration, I spent a while before realizing that I had grub.cfg in the wrong place.
The good thing about it is that you can fix anything with the install CD.
What is a task-manager like tool for Linux Mint?
As a scrub I feel somewhat uncomfortable having to search for processes with ps aux | grep eclipse each time something dies (yes eclipse I'm looking at you, stupid piece of shit) - and kill-9 random process ids that look like they got something to do with eclipse.
If you can name a valid reason why you'd want to use swap space rather than just be unable to load another program when free RAM runs out I'll give you $300.
Oh and assume no SSDs because that's still fucking stupid, unless you want to destroy your limited number of writes.
Do you have any idea how fucking slow swap space is?
If anyone is configuring their own machine, from scratch, they probably have at least 4GB of RAM.
If you need more RAM, then get more fucking RAM.
>inb4 muh photoshop/video editor
Any heavy duty memory user will just create it's own fuckhuge temp files, or will require it's own scratch disk.
HDD swap space is a remnant of the 90s
The one and only: https://github.com/hishamhm/htop
I did quite a bit of research on this not long ago and it seems like EncFS is still the way to go. There's also eCryptFS which is pretty much the same thing but I found EncFS easier to use.
There's also an Android app for EncFS.
>not using wizard mode vtop
I am trying to write a shell script to pull all the links from an html link, and wget the linked documents.
Using grep I can trim the page to the links that I want, but I am unsure of how to effectiley remove (or ignore) the < href=... stuff out of the way.
Any tips? Or should I go to the programing thread?
Swap is the last resort so that your system wouldn't go killing processes left and right when you go over the RAM limit for whatever reason.
>get more ram
What if I physically can't? No more slots, or just an embedded system -- doesn't matter, "moar ram, faggot!" is just not how it works.
Any actual arguments against swap?
Nobody said swap was rainbows and unicorns, but not having it is a very real problem.
grep is more powerfull by using the -P, --perl-regexp flag.
while :; do
printf "Updating ... \r";
wget -qO - "$1" | grep --color=auto -Po 'i.4cdn.org/\w+\/(\d+\.(?:jpg|png|gif|webm))' | uniq | xargs wget -nv -nc;
printf "Idle ... \r";
Did you even read the thread? He created it before he read what I posted.
Still, there's no actual problem with swap, even if there's 8GB of it.
I have 8GB of swap too. Before I could upgrade to 16GB of RAM, I saw the swap usage go all the way up to 6GB a couple of times.
>inb4 literally why
Because some stuff needs to sit in the background while a heavy task is in the RAM.
Ain't nothing wrong with that. But just use htop for any actual practical purpose, except for when you want some CLI eye candy.
No, the last resort is programs just running out of memory.
What do you think happens if something tries to malloc and there's no free RAM? BSOD? kernel panic?
No, it just fails to malloc anything, and the program should be able to deal with that.
In most cases, it'll just kill itself.
Relying on slow as fuck swap when really you want to reduce your RAM usage to within reasonable limits is not the right solution.
Come the fuck on, it's useless shit for ricers so they can show off in deskshit cirklejerk.
Noone besides them uses. top/htop/pgrep/ps + whatever your DE ships with works just fine and already exists on your system.
>I'd rather let my work go to shit because program killed itself after an unsuccessfull attempt to get some memory rather than just wait a little longer for it to finish and make use of slow swap
Read this: http://sed.sourceforge.net/sed1line.txt
Sed is the ultimative tool, can fully replace grep, head, tail, cut, etc. Never forget you can also chain like this: sed 's/cuck/CLUCK/g; s/^/start/'.
You will definly fall in love with sed when you're into shell scripting.
iftop. There are billions more, look up "network htop".
>Relying on slow as fuck swap
That's your problem, mate. I put my swap on an SSD, I just wait five seconds when the system needs to offload a gig or two.
This guy gets it. I couldn't phrase it better.
okay so i'm fairly certain that xorg is breaking my trackpad and keyboard and i have no clue how to fix it
kb/m is fine in grub but when i load to my display manager, they don't work. a usb kb/m works fine.
I'm really enjoying my numix circle icon theme, but I can't stand how the pause/play/previous/next buttons look in my Banshee player.
Is there any way to make Banshee pick default Mint icon theme icons rather than those? If not, what would be the best way to deal with this?
It turns out I was wrong and using the wrong command -- both machines' roots had bash as the login shell.
So I still don't know why .zlogin is working on Fedora but not Debian. Does the DE somehow have to do anything with it?
Actually, that sort of is what I am doing. Basically I was wanting to be able to pull website indexes, which hold links to articles, and then run an html to text program on the individual pages that I grab, and dump them out for later perusal.
Is there a good reason that using curl for this is better than, say, wgetting an article and passing it off to a python html2text program?
curl is wget, wget is curl.
Just use what fit's better.
wget -qO - is the same as curl
curl -O is the same as wget
Choose what you like.
(use wget, it's GNU)
>Using 2 tools for one task is 1 tool too much
No. That's stupid. You can do anything with bash, so why use another language in one project? I hope you just realize that your argument is invalid.
Fedora for sure
>dpkg is pure fucking trash
>first to introduce new technologies
>packages as close to upstream as possible, little to none distro specific bugs
>production oriented distro used by companies like redhat.
>after reevaluation becomes RHEL/Centos (rhel 7 is fedora 19 for example)
Enjoy you're broken dependencies because debian's maintainers are too fucking incompetent to make a package manager that works properly
Let me rephrase. Aside from the DE, is there any need for a relatively new user to use a distro other than ubuntu? Or is it best to stick with babbies first until I can actually use the OS properly?
You have to really question why you're using Linux in the first place.
What are you trying to get out of it? No, seriously, ask yourself this question. I have no idea why you're using Linux, and there could be literally dozens of answers.
For an absolute beginner -- for someone who doesn't even understand computers all too well -- there's no real reason not to use an LTS version of *buntu.
But for a Windows/OSX migrant, what's making you move (besides price)? What interests or excites you about what you've seen in Linux?
IMO, among the "noob friendly" distros, your mileage will not vary by much. They'll all likely use slightly different kernels and have different software packed with them, so certain things may run better or worse. It's impossible to tell without booting up a Live environment.
Beyond that, though, there's almost no difference. If you have to choose, pick whatever has documentation that you can follow and that makes sense. Otherwise, pick what looks nice by default.
>Or is it best to stick with babbies first until I can actually use the OS properly?
You will not hear that often but it's never a bad idea to stick with babbies like *buntu, Mint, Fedora forever.
Once you're proficient with the OS, it will only make managing the babby OS even easier.
I don't get why would you want to make anything harder.
GNU/Linux distributions are very similar, and on each one you can achieve the same results.
That's what I did.
Started with debian as my first distro, found my way around it, moved to *buntus for a while and landed on babby mode Fedora I don't plan to leave.
Can you create custom browsers for 4chan like Clover except for Linux? How would you go on to make that?
Structural things (like package manager) aside Fedora's and Debian's non-free policy is different and this difference is the biggest when you're installing it.
Debian just says "no" to proprietary software and (more important) firmware. And while it does maintain a non-free repository containing all binary blobs stripped from it, it's not enabled by default.
It's a pain in the butt when you're trying to install debian on a laptop and your ethernet and wlan doesn't work because the manufacturer doesn't give a shit about making them open source.
On fedora the situation is similar, the repositories do not contain non-free software.
With the exception of firmware, which is allowed, so if hardware has support for linux kernel, it should work right off the bat.