/roids/ the steroid users general

Hypofag YGM
The tren is definitely overdosed

>>35594418
>bliss just under the skin
>running will get you tanned faster
Really? So I should swap cardio from indoor cycling to outside running to help tan?

Hey if I'm cruising on 300 Test E, should I just consolidate it into one dose a week instead of doing it twice a week?

>tfw haven't posted in forever and barely recognize anyone

A few months ago I ran a test cycle for 2 months. Gyno symptoms popped up so I started nolva 40mg and letro. Killed the gyno, finished the cycle and tapered off the letro. Stayed on nolva until pct and ran it through PCT too. My nipples are puffy now but no stinging or itching or anything like that. Is it probably rebound estro? My BF% is a bit high, but nips weren't like this until gyno symptoms popped up originally.

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>>35594446
But it's so easy because of light sensitivity anon!
At least I'm not an idiot who does MT2 while suffering acne lel
I'd be covered in semipermanent spots where pimples were

I really hope next month I can afford to run peptides and help heal the skin faster
If I can get nice smooth skin again, I can run mt2, get brown, increase my dosages a bit, bulk harder get bigger.
Then come winter I can cut with dnp and look gloriously shredded and brown

>>35594501
iirc the more you spread it out throughout the week the less hormone spikes you will have so the better you should feel all the time

So pinning once a week on test e would cause more spiking and is probably a bad idea

>that being said it is your body so up to you. Try it and see if you like it

Sup, Guys. I'm starting a cycle with Oxandrolone, what are your thoughts about Anavar?

>>35594526
This is funny, stupid endos have guys on TRT injecting like once every 2-3 weeks. Ridiculous

>>35594535
It is awesome.

>>35594535
Goals?

>>35594535
Love me some var.

Finishing up 5th week atm

>>35594549
Fat loss

>>35594501
Why the aversion to pinning? Literally takes a few minutes at most.

>>35594535
It's expensive and quite mild. None the less I love it. It always gets me looking more shredded then ever before and the jaw pumps are fun.
Hope your running a test base.

>>35594567
Any tips?

>>35594583
Don't run var for fatloss, it's effects on the physique are very subtle and only noticeable if your already very lean.
Run 200 test/week and do a PSMF diet with refeeds every 7-10 days until 8%BF.
From there you can add in other compounds, ie var.

Is this a bad cycle?

Week 1-12 Test E @ 600mg a week
Week 1-12 Mast @ 200mg a week
Week 1-6 Dbol @ 40mg a day

Why do I not get hard during the day anymore?

Srs. Haven't gotten a random boner in months. Don't even look at girls asses in public anymore. What can I do to change this low sex drive

My test levels are fine but

Is it time to pin

>>35594627
No, is that Mast E or P? Why are you adding the mast?

What is your day job brahs

>roids
Enjoy your osteoporosis, LOL

>>35594653
Mast P
To get more gains, and to use it for its AI-effects during Dbol

Is this dumb?

>>35594676
Hi, where has your "steroids are for manlet faggots" friend gone?

>>35594592
>Why the aversion to pinning? Literally takes a few minutes at most.

>>35594526
>iirc the more you spread it out throughout the week the less hormone spikes you will have so the better you should feel all the time

Okay cool I don't even know why I was doubting myself, was talking with a few other guys at my gym and they all were surprised I pinned twice a week at 300 while cruising. Glad to know I was right with my thinking

>>35594627
Looks good.
I'd try to extend it to at least 14 weeks if possible.

>>35594644
Have you started any new medications?
Have you put on weight?
Get a full bloodwork done. I'm guessing your estro is out of whack.

>>35594685
AI effects of mast are mild, especially at 200mg/week.
Make sure you still have an AI on hand.

>>35594685
As an AI yes, I don't think it's actually that effective. I think it's a good compound besides that.

>>35594694
He's at work

>>35594702
>Looks good.
>I'd try to extend it to at least 14 weeks if possible.
Thanks :)

>>35594702

No new medications, no change in sleep pattern, put on about 3 - 4 pounds this month lifting.

Just got a call saying my blood work is in and I'll get the paper by Friday. Doc said all my levels were fine on the phone but I think it just checked test not estro.

Any advice on what to look for? Next step?

Well fraud, you've given me advice on school, work, and qts before and most of the time you've been right.

>dated girl for three months
>she was leaving (travel) and I broke it up cause I don't believe in ldrs
>still talk often, and very fond of each other
>she is now in Singapore
>she knows I'm taking a month off of work
>told me I should Join her, even offered to pay my airfare and stay

Of course, I'd pay for my own trip, I'm no leech. Thing is I don't know if I should.

I could use the money and invest it, no debt to pay. Hell, I could buy stuff for that there race car. I just don't want to be clouded by how much I want to see her again (instead of waiting two more months for her to be back) or how much fun would it be to travel with her.

Then again, Singapore sound fun, and I love traveling. Plus, I can always make more money, but fucking living man... That's worth more.

What do fraud? Should I just buy 3k worth of test?

Anyone here with mental problems?
I suffer from anxiety and panic attacks, my doctor told me to start a new sport I'm gonna try skating, I heard it has lots of qt's so wish me good luck senpaitachi.

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>>35594736
Go for 2 weeks and not a month?
Show her you want to see her and spend time with her
Enjoy your travelling and adventure
But also have time to yourself that you need and save money because money is important

>>35594736
>>35594767
I agree with this. Go for a mean holiday and leave with no regrets of what could have happened if you didn't go

>>35594736
I've been there, you may or may not like it, cheap food, especially the hawker stalls gathered into a food court, nice satay.

Very humid and warms, whole country is small and almost entirely city, train network is great.

Lots and lots of big shopping malls, divided by floor into categories, like a particular floor may all be computer and electronic shit.. so you go to one place to compare and look for shit for example.

But you can always go with her to Malaysia or something for more country and nature shit, depending what you like, its just a hop over over the border.

Travelling and adventuring is awesome. My next trip is to Indonesia, volcanoes and tropical blue water beaches and shit.

>>35594458
Guy thinking in learning about steroids to use it. Do you always have to shoot it up your butt? Can it be a thigh instead?

>>35594730
e2 is high
150mg zinc for one week after that drop to 50mg

>>35594833
There's lots of pinning locations, glutes is an easy one though, quads/thighs is another location.

Subq works well too if you're doing test only.

>>35594833
Go to the reddit steroid sub wiki. Read about it there. iirc it covers the common pin sites and how to pin

>>35594767
>>35594805
Thanks m8s.

It's not Singapore its Thailand. Sorry.

My dad said the same thing. The limiting factor is I'm always feeling really guilty when spending money on myself. That and the fact that I don't want to bail on my family since we run te business together. I know you can't regret traveling.

>>35594833
http://www.spotinjections.com/index3.htm

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>>35594805
>>35594889
Exactly
Awesome holiday, but it isn't for too long
You don't regret not going and also don't regret being there too long
It's perfect

why does this entire thread feel like it's advancing the roid hivemind AGENDA?

what HAPPENED?

>>35594889
Thailand sounds interesting, lots of shit to see and do and travel to, its pretty cheap to get a bus to Burma from Thailand too from what I can see.

>>35594909
Whats the agenda?

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TFW injecting 3CC and have to take breaks every ML

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>>35594957
I have not seen this gif before... Is this... Is this ANOTHER new reaction?!

>>35594964
>Inb4 you snap the needle

>>35594980
>tfw it's nearly impossible to snap a needle

Try it some time, it's way more bendy than you think

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>>35594964

you should be taking about 1min/ml anyway to minimize the hydraulic cutting action causing trauma in the muscle tissue

>>35594977

special limited collector's edition brick doesn't give a shit 420 fuck the mods reaction gif

>>35595011
How many ml is 250mg test e

>>35595033
Depends on the strength of the test e

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>>35595033

>>35594596
It's my first run with it.

I was planning on running 80mg ed for four weeks but started at 60mg ed for 6 weeks instead.

It's been fantastic as well so I would say start out around 50-60mg as if it's legit it will do the trick. The people who tell you 100mg or bust have so weak as var.

I prefer to dose it twice daily as well. I take 30mg upon waking and another 30mg before my evening workout.

Assuming you're running test as a base as all cycles should have but if you're not I would recommend it.

Your dick will probably stop functioning if you don't.

>>35595054
Ok seems like standard is 250mg/ml. So i should inject in for 1min? I'm probably gonna pass out will have to get a friend to pin for me

>>35595089
Some weak as var*

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>>35595033
10ml.

>>35595096
>>35595075
This desu

>>35595033
there's normally 250mg/ml and it won't get any stronger than that. If you find some shit that says it has 300mg/ml its fake as fuck and the people who made it don't know shit about shit

so to answer your question:
1ml (probably)

>>35595096
>So i should inject in for 1min?
Nah, that's too long. Aim to inject all of the syringe in 10 seconds. You gotta press really hard on the plunger.

>>35595114
>If you find some shit that says it has 300mg/ml its fake as fuck and the people who made it don't know shit about shit
300mg/ml isn't fake.
Can't into basic chemistry.

>>35595096
>So i should inject in for 1min?

Holy fuck.. do more research before you do anything.. also, how old are you?

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>>35595011
>be at work
>brick post 2 new reaction gif
>best day of fraud in many month
>next day
>phone ring
It anon, Brick post new reaction
>rush to computer
>see dicks on fan
>pass out from excitement
Brick post so many gif

>>35595129
Yea ok m8, good luck

>>35595133
What if he is here doing research right now?
>>35595096
Go to steroid dot com or the steroid sub reddit wiki and read everything you can

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>>35595114

you really have no fucking idea what you're talking about, you should probably quit while you're ahead and stop embarrassing yourself

>>35595133
I have not planned on starting pinning untill next february so havn't looked into the practical stuff like needles and etc. 20

>>35595146
>what is EO
You're dumb.

>>35594964
>injecting 3CC

Short esters, not even once.

>>35594828
She already went to Malaysia. I might head to Vietnam afterwards. Indonesia is on my bucket list.

>>35594908
What about the girl stuff? Isn't it a bit retarded following her? I'm almost positive that I'm doing it because I want to, but there's this nagging like... If she wasn't there id spend the next to months cutting, working out and working.

>>35595134
12/12 story
>>35595146
>>35595114
I think you could be retarded friendo

>>35595181
Still happens with long esters bruh.

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>>35595182
You can't work out while on holiday?
It's okay to like a girl
But don't go there just to see her
Go there because you want to travel
Mate if I could afford to travel I'd take every chance I got

>>35595184
Sometimes it just comes to me
Like the universe is telling me what to write

>>35594843
>>35594847
>>35594890
Thanks for the help

>>35595182
It's a great excuse to have a holiday and travel? From what you have shared the only downside is not being home to help the family with the business. Could they handle it for 2 weeks while you go off and have fun?

>>35595196
Not if you're blasting reasonable amounts :^)

>>35595213
I don't think I'm doing it for her, but she is a great motivation. If she wasn't there is put it off. Hell, if she hadn't invited me I wouldn't even be considering it.
>>35595246
That and the money thing. Yeah of course they can.

>>35595114
Really now?

I know a reputable source who offers 300mg/ml and even 500mg/ml.

>Well fuck
I sent this pic
>>35594977
To my gf and now she wants a pair of those jeans because booty
The fuck if I know where to find them!

>>35595388
>500mg/ml

300 shows up sometimes but 500 is either under-dosed or will put you in a wheelchair from the PIP.

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>>35595394

wr.up jeans

>>35595302
Think about the opportunity. Will you ever have an opportunity like this again? What opportunities are you going to miss out on?

Which are worth more to you?

>>35595213
She has to be using melanotan 2.

Been curious on trying it myself.

>>35595408
Haven't had the 500 but have no reason to think its underdosed.

From what I've heard it does have a bite to it.

I'm used to using test prop and tren ace ed so I'm pretty much immune to pip unless I have a bad pin.

Got some 200mg/ml prop coming in that I hear has a hell of a bite. We shall see.

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>>35595463
>Got some 200mg/ml prop coming in

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>>35595410
Well then

It's funny, I would never spend this much on clothes for myself unless it was shoes
But I will gladly buy these jeans in a heartbeat lel

>>35595423
It's great stuff
Seriously buy at least 3 vials of it and spend the first 2-3 weeks only injecting the absolute minimum
I can't remember the dilution off the top of my head, but I was doing 1standard unit for weeks because it made me feel so sick

Built up slowly to injecting something like .5mg daily
Fucking great tan, only problem is it made my arms super brown because I wear shirts at work
Plus my stretch marks are really dark now

>>35595408
oH reallLY NoWWww!?!

I knOW a profeSSIONal juicers who tAkeSS 1200mg/ml even as hiGH AS 2ml/ml

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> on phenibut, finasteride, aromasin, anavar, clomid
> popped a bunch of Iron pills, cialis+dapoxetine, vardenafil, and try out new anti-migraine, sumatriptan
> snort some copulin and female pheremone snake oil
> feel bleh, shouldn't have done this post-workout
> dizzy, dropping phone and shit, go lay down
> suddenly have tourette's, talking to myself, can't talk without extra "shit piss dick fuck nigger fuck..."
> wank, dick hurts, porn is boring, have first leg-shaking orgasm but wasn't that great
> feel really good after though, pass out
> wake up hour later, migraine is gone, feeling cuddly as fuck, still dizzy, high as a kite
> go eat
> looking at a dick just now and kinda wanna suck it

Triptans lol. I've been feeling girly lately, started doing face clay and Harmon's Beauty store feels lile a candy store. Moiusturizer and exfoliation every day. Wearing pink, cute flair, hit on by 3 women and 2 guys today.

And omg, I can row using a pull-up bar now. I do a 180 degree hanging leg raise then I pull myself straight up towards the ceiling. Fuck olympic weight lifting, gymnastics is the good shit. I'm going to do press-ups on hanging rings someday, the master exercise. 100% straight I swear.

>>35595518
Your posts are always entertaining to read

>>35595499
Noted.

Gonna give it a shot this summer. I'm pretty pale do it'd be nice not melting in the sun for once.

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>>35595408
>>35595463

probably a 250/250 enanthate/undecanoate with maybe 50/50 oil/eo if you even need that much eo

multiple esters should hold decent especially with an added cosolvent

pip would come from hormones not being cleaved by esterase as fast as the carrier is absorbed, hormones crash in reduced fluid volume, bam pip

>>35595518

nigga you crazy

>>35595490
Tony pls

>>35595499
>But I will gladly buy these jeans in a heartbeat

*whip cracking*

>>35595595
>implying that he isn't buying them so he can look and feel up dat ass
If I had a gf that wanted those jeans I would by them

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>>35595555
I know a few people like that
You gotta start small and get used to it
Also try to avoid too much exposure or not enough

Basically just see what your skin is doing and act accordingly
Not hard stuff
Although it does tend to make your dick hard....

>>35595595
>>35595606
Pretty much this lel
I sent her the link and she told me to fuck off

>you have car parts to buy! I can pay for them myself
>yeah but you're poor it'll take forever
>and what about all the shut you have to buy? Remember how you're trying to set up that crap so you can make money?
>but babe.... Booty

I don think she's feeling it kek

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>>35595540
>>35595563

<3

My insecurities vanished on Jan 1st, I feel so free, zero anxiety, flirting with everyone. Ya'll niggas think I'll get any bitches with this gay ass Tinder profile? Forehead is cut off to fit TL;DR bio. Second pic is my butt (and back).

>>35595715
>American Psycho.jpg

>>35595715
i'd get rid of everything apart from the 6'2/230lbs/gymnastics

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>>35595715

Here's the butt pic.

> inb4 implying I give a fuck

>>35595690
Haha yeah I read it can have some interesting sexual side effects

I was planning on pinning it before bed so I don't walk around with a random boner during the day

>>35595751
Smile into the mirror in your butt pic.

>>35595715
guys taking selfies come off as creepy
get someone to take some candid photos of you at a beach or something, not shirtless selfies in your gross bathroom(?)
and have at least one photo with you out with other people so you look like you have a social life

also you bio is too long and your trying to hard, rewrite it but keep it under 5 lines this time

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>>35595768
Before bed is good way to do it
That way you can fall asleep and not feel like shit

>>35595793
>>35595751
Wait is this for straight or gay hook ups? That could change things.

>>35595849
It's Tinder, not Grindr m8

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>>35595735

I'm taking that as a compliment as Patrick Bateman is exactly what women want.

>>35595747

I'm only interested in weird girls though.

>>35595793

I'm shit with pictures, m80. I hike, stalk bears, and scale cliffs in the summer but I do it either in gym shorts, beach bum clothes, or naked. That's as good as it gets.

I read the Tinder tips and shit but that whole manipulating women with the illusion of a man they've been socially conditioned for... just isn't my nature. I can get bitches in RL with my newfound chill.

>>35595849

No homo.

>>35595912
You can fuck dudes off tinder no problem.

>>35595943
Hiking pictures work. Also sentences don't work on tinder for some reason. They just want shit like

If you like my butt maybe you'd like me too :)

Outdoors. Hiking. Med Student. 6'2/230. Gymnastics & Lifting.

Or idk maybe I'm fucking wrong.

>>35595797

Was responding to you as well in >>35595943 (m80)

> when you finally realize m80 = matie

>>35595943
Man all these people with their tinder rules.

Butt pic looks good I think grills will dig it or bring it up and boom conversation
The clay face pic is a bit weird, maybe have it but not as your first pic, idk?
Bio seems fine too

My tinder is a pic of me and 2 friends (guys) a cool scenery pic at the beach of me and my sister (makes me look huge) and a selfie of me chilling in the sun. My bio is kind of the same theme as yours I guess. It works for me pretty well. Girls ask about the pic with my sister asking about where it was taken quite a bit

Anyway that's my 2c for what it's worth

>>35594765
We don't talk about that here

>>35596016
Only rule for tinder

Be attractive

>>35596037
Fuck.

>>35596037
RIP finding my tinderella

Thinking of picking tbol + test over dbol + test on next bulk. Much less bloat etc. Thoughts?

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>>35595979

Nah, you're right, I was already considering minimizing but read some jack ass saying that Tinder bios should give an impression of who you are.

>>35596016

Your pics imply you're an interesting chill dude and have a life. But, yeah, guys trying to manipulate girls into having sex with them with Tinder rules is so basic.

I'm probably just going to wife the pharmacy girl, pretty fucking sure she wants the D. Girl works full time and then literally spends all her free time in an exotic pet shop, playing DOTA, or doing /cgl/ shit. Also, I have a pharmacy fetish.

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the real dream is marrying a research md/phd doing work on male hormone replacement and contraceptives

good career, have to be pretty sharp and have an inquisitive mind, plus you could get her to source you pharma tren e

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>>35596098
>>35596155
Don't even know what my dream girl would be.....
One that has brains and doesn't act like an idiot

My life is so weird.

My ex, unknowingly, has been flirting with my fuck buddy's ex boyfriend.

>>35595499
What concentration are cyclefags test and tren?

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>>35596262
That's weird

>>35596271
I don't talk about sources
So I have no idea who that person is or anything about them

But I can tell you that I use 250TestE and 200TrenE

I have about 50pieces 20mg anavar and 50pieces 20mg proviron from a friend that was throwing this out because he's quitting or whatever.

Any point in eating these alone?

t. total steroid newbie

>>35596286
No. read about steroids on steroid dot com and the steroids sub reddit wiki

when the fuck do you take sarms

heard before training, in the morning and before bed like when the fuck do i take it

>>35596307
Can't ya just give me a quick explanation on why I should throw these out then?

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>>35596313

you take them and throw them in the fucking trash with the rest of the garbage

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Did I make it bros

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>>35596165

Dream girl...

> under 35% body fat
> sexually attracted to me initially, 'personality' being extra credit
> good mommy material, births aryan children
> open-minded about human experimentation and using clomid to have twins
> crazy but ussually nice, non-abusive
> is a challenge to dominate in bed
> doesn't go in bathroom immediately post-sex or uses phone at table
> has some kind of life pursuit or passion

That'll do.

>>35596343
LOL
>>35596320
They are good things to use just not on their own. They have specific uses and just taking them "because" is not one of the uses
(I feel like there is a way you can take anvar on its own but I can't remember)

I was think to myself in the shower: I wonder how someones test would look if they ran LGD and DAA together for a long time. Theres some guy on reddit who's been on LGD solo for like 6 months. Just question I ask myself sometimes.

So theres undoubtedly some people here who are browsing for SARM info or are here to ask about them. Out of that group, theres a small percentage of you who are yolotards who are willing to risk a little extra health for a little extra gains. Not here to judge. Just consider it.

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>>35596358
>open-minded about human experimentation
Lold at that.

>>35596358
>doesn't use bathroom immediately post sex
This was always strange to me when I was with my HS gf. Every single time she did this. Like I get that she doesn't want a UTI or whatever but damn let me cuddle for 5 mins. My dick is still 3/4 hard when you get to the bathroom

>>35596419
I think that means butt stuff.

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>>35596358
Interesting list
I've never really thought about the qualities I like in a woman

>>35596450
Only qualities I have ever really thought about are
>I think she is pretty as fuck
>we get along like a house on fire

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>>35596423
Usually my girls do it cuz I came inside them and it starts to drip out and they don't want to be lying in cum when they go to sleep

>>35596471
Both make sense

>>35596358
>using clomid to have twins
wut

>>35596485
That's the reason my girls said. One also said orgasms make her feel like she needs to pee so there's that

Another quality for a grill is
>needs to be independent of me and not rely on me for everything all the time

>>35596488

Twins reduce the cost per child in terms of time and money. I want a small army.

Clomid is medically used by women to have twins, triplets, even quintuplets.

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ideal grill
>must be fit
>anywhere between shredded and pic related for bodyfat
>has to have depth
>srsly no boring bitches
>idk why bitches have trouble finding hobbies
>pick up a cookbook or something
>can't be addicted to social media the more disconnected the better
>must be open to trt cause I ain't ever coming off
>has to have really laid back personality

>>35596523
>Clomid is medically used by women to have twins, triplets, even quintuplets

Is that a fact? I didn't know there was any drugs that did stuff like that. I have to do some research now m8, got any sources on it?

>>35596537

Wikipedia, octomom, it's fairly mainstream.

>take my 12.5mg pharma asin for the day (split into two doses of 6.25mg)
>estro still seems high end
>on 500mg test, cutting

any harm in just popping 0.25mg adex right now to try and get it down a notch more?

>>35596625
Are you fat?

>>35596632
about 12%

>>35596649

christ on a cross you aromatize like a motherfucker

>>35596625
Lower your test rather than raising your ai.

>>35596687
this is true

>>35596694
had it at 250mg for a long time coach and felt weak/low libido/tired

500mg is the sweet spot

>>35596625
I thought mine was high, had it tested & it was actually crashed. Your "feelings" are subjective, blood work is cheap & objective.

>>35596720
you don't say? I guess I don't really know what the psychological effects of low estro are. I've just been feeling bitchier and having a soft penor ocassionally when I need it rock hard

>>35596713
Did you try 375?

Idea girl qualities

>must be fit
>or at least not fat and be lifting and dieting her way to fit
>must not be a moron
>preferably a few similar interests to me
>must have similar political, social, religious views
>independent
>not controlling or clingy (I don't want a girl that calls and texts all night when I'm out with friends)
>must be willing to accept she isn't perfect and everyone has room to improve
>hobbies (goes hand in hand with independent)
>similar sexual tastes
>can take over planning shit for us to do if I don't feel like putting in effort sometimes
>open to steroids use
>doesn't have bogan piercings or hair dye

That's all I can think of right now.

>>35596713
Is your test pharma or ugl?

>>35596738

My estrogen should currently be zero and feel great aside from joint pain.

>>35596750
negative

>>35596763
ugl as fuck

>>35596355
>nodelts

why are you faggots so obsessed with girls and relationships

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>>35596355
this is "jacked as fuck damn bro do you take steroids!?" for normies but pretty goddamn tame around this board

I'm now a "big guy" in person for normal folk but I'm in same boat, means nothing in bodybuilding

>>35596825
>noarms

>>35596786
Drop your ai
Lower test to 375

You shouldn't need an ai at that dose given how lean you are now

>>35596855
Not always the case, some people are just more prone to aromatisation.
I take 6.25mg aromasin ED on only 200 test (both pharma) just to keep my estro within range.
I'm not fat either, ~10% bf.

>>35596908
I think this is the case, even though I am a humble servant of the prophet dhb. maybe I just need to tank it with letro to make sure for once in my life that I'm definitely low-low

>>35596786
Test is probably underdosed. For most guys 250mg test puts you at the high end of normal so you shouldn't be feeling shitty, unless you took too much ai while you were on 250 and were experiencing low estro sides

>>35596939
definitely possible; I was taking 0.25mg adex while cruising for a while because fuck estrogen lol

test could also be underdosed but from what I've gathered my ugl shit puts guys bloodwork way up there so unless I was selectively scammed I think we're ok

what kind of test dosage/other drugs would I be looking to go from DYEL to ottermode/shredded as fuck in a short time span? Like 6 months.

>>35597004
Mdma as a preworkout

>>35597004
Run tren and anadrol, as much as you can handle

Example

500 test
750 tren
100mg anadrol every day

Quick nasty blood pressure boiling gains

>>35597004
400 test 200 mast will get you there quick and shouldnt cause too many sides

>>35597020
probably a bit much for someone with a goal of ottermode desu

>>35597051
DYEL to instagram ottermode body in 6mo? Implying that's easy to do. he needs a lot of hormonas to pull that off

>>35596855
>>35596908

I got sore sensitive nips and hard ball behind nips on 500mg Test E, probably about 12+ weeks in though, ran no ai or serm on it, at about 12% bf as well at the time.

>>35597004
Whatever increases your appetite. Eat big lift big then fast towards the end of it to get bf down.

can we have a discussion about whether a test base is necessary? has anyone on here run no test before?
considering running 500 tren and 20 sd with no test base because fuck

>>35597051
Would you still need estrogen blocker like that aromasin shit people talk about?

Depends on the steroid, and whether it can replace test or not. Tren was being looked as a HRT iirc, so it may be viable.

I've done halodrol on it's own - terrible depression.

LGD on it's own - quite good.

Tren I've only combined with test.

>>35597122
Yes you should always have an AI incase you need it to stop gyno

>>35597103
>crashing your natural test production
>not wanting to replace the test that your body normally has
What part of this seems like a good idea?

>>35597147
So you only take the AI when gyno starts to develop? I definitely need to read up more on this

>>35597175
Then or if you start showing sides of high estrogen
Good sources to read up about everything >>35596307

>>35597137
What do you think of a testosterone/anadrol/LGD-4033 combo?

>>35597175
I had asin and toremifene from southern sarms, they didn't do anything to help on my 500mg cycle when I need them (meaning bunk), so I had to stop, then it went away.

>>35597201
I'm not sure anon, I'm actually thinking of the same thing myself desu for my next cycle, just not sure what oral to stack with, I want to bulk so maybe dbol or anadrol. Theory is the LGD will be much more effective than it is on it's own hopefully.

I'll be running my LGD for longer, after I drop the other oral. Want to gain some serious mass then PSMF at some point in after the other oral is dropped.

I've never tried anadrol, or dbol.

>>35597193
Thanks man, appreciate it.

>>35597069
500 is a bit high for no ai

>>35597254
Had an ai, it was bunk sadly.

Craving carbs rn so bad holy shit hold me

>>35597254
What are your thoughts on running tren without a test base?

>>35597051
Hey just one last question, but how much total test/mast would I need for a 6 month (total time period, accounting for time off cruise) would I need? And the amount of money I'd be looking to invest? Thank you man

>>35597371
Why don't you take my advice you pussy boi, that guy doesnt even have a cool tripname, baka baka

>>35597380
well okay let's say I do go off your advice. What would be the cost of those drugs? ty family

>>35597371
~$300usd for the roids
~$50-$75 for pct/ai
~$25 for pins

>on PCT, 2nd week
>nolva 20mg ED
>nuts have already returned to a seemingly pre-cycle
>libido is decent already, too
>feel like a faggot 90% of the time, actually want to cry at least once a day

I guess my e2 is high? should I up the nolva or add arimidex to the PCT? or is feeling like this completely unavoidable? First cycle btw

>>35596758

replace
>must not be a moron

with

has better career chances then i do, because whos gonna pay for my grave if i overdo it?

Guys who's used EQ here? Rate it and your experience on it.

How is the pip/injection? Similar to test? I hate injecting tren I find it rather painful vs test.

>>35597438
Just continue with your nolva protocol

>>35597438
upping nolva wont help with the mental issues
you can add adex but your estro is just going to rebound when you come off it, thats why its recommended to use aromasin during pct
id just megadose zinc to lower estro, having 0 copper will be shitty but no where near as bad as high estro

>>35597004
Test/tren/mast

>>35596839
Dont you like girls m8?

>tfw your gym is empty so you dance and song along with Justin Bieber playing on the gym radio

IMO his new album is alright

>>35597527
Liking girls is for faggots

>>35597540
Well shit
Guess Im a fag

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>>35597518
>>35597522
I'm already taking zinc at 30mg a day, split into two doses (30mg on an empty stomach makes me want to vomit). What would be a "megadose" for you?

won't be adding an AI then

>>35597554
You are only 2 weeks into pct.
you should pct for 4 weeks.

Feeling kinda shit on pct is normal

>>35597554
150mg/day
if you can get asin i would run that instead though, 6.25mg/day

>>35597574
dude has high estro, he needs to get it down regardless otherwise once he comes off the nolva his going to end up with titties

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sicccckcunt checking in boys.
How's everyone doing? So I've been running a bit of cheeky tren ace and heading into competition in 9 weeks for mens physique, any suggestions on competition protocol? When should I add in mast and drop the test? Up the tren to 100 mg ED at any point or nah?
Love you brahs

>>35597580
He is not taking any aromatasing conpounds anymore.

Should balance out by itself imo

But ya, suppose a suicide ai might help

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>>35597629

>>35597447
I'm never taking eq out.

At a low bf it gives a similar a "pop" similar to tren's.

Also tfw you poop but you're also hard af

>>35597629
Hey looking good mate. I don't think there has been any competition guys in here in a little while, so you would probably know best 2bh. Best of luck to you and hope you find out what will work for you best

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>>35597655
aw man, fair enough boys! Good to check in and see there are still some fine little mummas being posted up ;)

>>35597629
I'm about 16 weeks out.

100mg seems like a lot. I'd keep it where it's at. Add in mast soon so you can play around with it.

I'd drop all oils a week out to drop excess water and avoid any "bee stings". Proviron and Adrol for dryness and fullness.

>>35597702
I think all oils add a little water. Everyone's different but tren causes my cortisol to sky rocket and gets me a bit puffy.

>>35597649
what dose do you like it at?

>>35597740
400-800mg generally.

>>35597649
kek at that poop feel

What do I need to inject for this mode?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFuAI9tRV7Y

>>35597786
Post a pic.
Cant see vids now

>>35597661
What tren dose you on?

ded

>>35598317
Never

>>35598343
Kinda is.
I wana bump with b8 but cant, im on my phone

>>35598350
Bump with dumb shit

>>35598378
Is front loading a tan a good idea? I haven't been for like 3 weeks so I'm thunking if I go every day for like 4 days I'll be good again

>>35598457
Yes

>>35598457
it could be extremely painful

>>35598527
Why?

>>35598533
A burn

>>35598541
Neh I'm lucky in that I don't burn. I'll frontload it

>>35598378
If I have hairy legs should i shave my hairy leg to pin in said hairy leg?

Am i gonna get an abscess if i pin through a hair follicle?


>>35598527
Your a big guy

took me like 20min to do my first inject of my new cycle l o l

pinning eod, o well tren should be worth it right guys!

>>35598674
>If I have hairy legs should i shave my hairy leg to pin in said hairy leg?
I shave little squares on the spots I'm currently rotating

If anybody asks just say it's for ECG suction cups due to tren&clen heart

>Am i gonna get an abscess if i pin through a hair follicle?
No, but I've pushed a hair in with the needle and worried about it for a week

>>35598705
>If anybody asks just say it's for ECG suction cups due to tren&clen heart
The perfect alibi.

>>35597629
Start mast as soon as possible.

Too much tren can cause you too look flat, play around with dosage and find out what works best for you.

5 weeks out add in the following; 25mcg T3, 50mg winstrol, 50mg proviron, 50mg var. If your looking flat add drol or sdrol.

2 weeks out drop oils.

>>35595413
Fuck, the money. Guess I'm investing.

Just shaved my boipussy /fraud/ you want to see?

>>35598996
Might as well really, not much else cracking off today

>>35598996
Do it

What is the ultimate enhanced-cruise/light-permablast for good looks, good feels and gradual gains for a near-DYEL who followed /fraud/'s advice and cut down to 7% BF?

>>35599179
Test tren mast

How do I into lowering BP quickly? My dick is acting funny and I'm trying to get laid tmw night.

>>35599179
This is hit or miss with everyone, but I stand by it and will do it when I stop caring about my blood pressure.
250 test (test u or dec would work great here)
400 eq
proviron
You can bump it either one to 375 test or 600 eq or both. This is a slow year long gains blast.
If you hate eq and I don't blame you
350 test
350 npp
350 mast
Mast keeps bloof down, hard dick, good feels.

Just my opinion I'm sure some guys will give you more crafty cycles. 250 test and proviron alone you can grow on and feels good year round with practically no sides.

>>35599179
I plan to permacruise on the following once I'm done with bodybuilding.
250 test 400 mast 25 proviron

Feel free to add a low dose of dbol for good feels and to keep you looking full.

>>35599210
Donate blood or perform bloodletting at home, it's simple to do.
Or pop some cialis.

Does sust interact well enough with npp? Didn't wanna run deca and figured sust would be better than e or c.

Prop100 was also almost twice as expensive as E250, Does this sound right?

What makes it worth the price tag? Less sides from shorter ester? Faster clear times?

>>35599286
Care to share your DIY bloodletting procedure?

Needle in vein sitting in bath?

>>35599336
sust+npp works.

you figured wrong, sust isn't better than e or c, just more expensive.

prop is more expensive because raws are more expensive.

>>35599349
Presumably with the blend of prop in sust it would be faster acting initially than e or c? That wouldn't be better with short ester nandrolene?

And worse case wouldn't the ideal pin frequency be more similar?

Sust and npp is alright to pin MWF? Or is this suboptimal?

>>35599342
18g butterfly needle with tubing feeding into an old protein shaker cup.
Wouldn't draw more than 500ml at a time.
Have someone with you in case you pass out.

>>35599394
That works. Just watch your other hormones since they'll fluctuate a little.

The problem with sust is the short ester fluctuates a lot if you pin infrequently, the long ester takes a while to kick in, and it all clears out at different rates. If you look at it on a graph its all over the place. e or c is more stable, you get the same amount of test, and its cheaper and easier to find/make typically. if you want to speed things along just use prop on top of you e or c.

imho.

>>35599275
Do you order locally or overseas? i am looking to get some cheap dbol.

>>35599286
Arg, can't donate or get pills by tmw ;_;

Cmonnnn penis, don't embarrass me

>>35599275
Proviron on top of mast? Is prov really that good?
FWIW I've used pharma proviron in place of an AI as it was all I had access to and it fucking worked to reverse early gyno on beginner blast. To those who bash it for that purpose, it could work if you're somewhere near the bitch-tit threshold

>>35599265
I'm liking both stacks, it's too bad mast is so damn expensive. Haven't tried EQ so not sure whether (or why) I'd hate it

In light of these suggestions I'm thinking something like...
250 test
300 deca
300 mast
on/off babby dose dbol (like 20mg)
100mcg GHRP-6 every night
Caber (for deca and I think ghrp)

yeah buddy

>>35599535
Gl

>>35599558
If you can avoid the caber do it. Prami too. Dopamine agonists are fucky caber isn't good for your heart.

>>35599487
Steroids locally, everything else overseas.

>>35599571
Glad you mentioned this, thanks

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>>35599433
But to be fair pin frequency would be an issue for npp alone, right?

Given I can draw npp and sust together and it will work out to be like 1cc MWF, that shouldn't be to bad?

Pic is more or less what I'm looking at, test fluctuation for sust is 50mg/day+- between peaks while test e is 25mg+-.

Is the difference too large to justify using sust for the faster uptake?

>>35599665
Argh, npp drops off after 8 weeks though

I have a blood test I haven't claimed yet. Should I use it at the end of this blast (I'm on week 10 of 12-16ish (haven't decided)) or once I start cruising?

>>35599665
NPP is a single ester so just pin properly and you'll be fine. If you're pinning sust more than twice a week it shouldn't be a problem either. Most people don't though which is why j mentioned it.

>>35599706
Cruise. During blast your values are high. During a cruise you'll know where you need to improve your health if anywhere and act appropriately

>>35599799
Thanks mang!

And lastly caber on hand necessary for 300npp/week if I'm popping .5arim eod?

>>35599847
On hand yes. Only use as necessary though. Be preemptive with your estrogen though.

>>35599799
Good point thanks

In for patiently awaiting this weeks flash tren sale and blast tren @1g/week for the next 9 months

Not sure if my dick is ready again

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>>35599349
>prop is more expensive because raws are more expensive.

fuck are you smoking

>>35600697
dank kush fag blaze it #420

No but seriously am I wrong?

i will have a african baby to trade in about 3 months.

Make me a offer.

>>35601041
Its a boy btw

You can teach it tricks and shit.

>>35600918
Pre-mixed Sustanon raws cost slightly more than the single ester components, yeah.

Prop costs more though because vial price isn't a straight conversion based on raw price, it's materials and time invested as well.

>>35601172
Which is to say, Test P raws don't cost more than Test E raws.

Feeling like death today asian girl woke me up at 535 to go workout then could not flal asleep till like 12pm last night. Fuck me bruhh

How much does synthetic t raise blood t?
Let's say I do 500 test e/ week.
How high would the blood t be after a few weeks?

>>35601210
You know what will make her happy?

A qt baby all the way from africa,,,

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>>35600918

this is about the average price you'll see from china, me and chem know a couple that are cheaper but less well-known to the average small-time ugl or homebrewers

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>>35601370

whoops, didn't notice

>50g/100g/1kg

>>35601216

Im wondering the same thing. I'll work out the math in a bit, for now you can try to find a graph for trt doses compared to serum test levels and make an assumption (im pretty sure its not linear)

You guys are usually more helpful than anyone else on the board so I'll ask you

My dead has gone down by like 80 fucking lbs, meanwhile all my other lifts are going up, I have been cutting but it shouldn't drop THAT much at the rate I'm going at, which is especially evident given the status of my other lifts. Wtf is the problem it's honestly humiliating and making my blood boil.

Inb4 up dose, natty for now

>>35601419
How frequently do you dl?

>>35601419
Weird, I hit a new dead PR during my cut.

Try eating 20% of your carbs pre-workout

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>>35601408

not only is it non-linear, it also varies from person to person

fucky shit even when you don't have to make assumptions about ugl dosing

>>35601419

isolate variables between pre-cut and cut, adjust until your dead responds

BAM, SCIENCE

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>>35601452
>Weird, I hit a new dead PR during my cut.

doesn't count when your pr is my warmup :3

>>35601370
The less-known price on bricks of TE is hilarious.

>>35601370
>>35601172
Alright take note guys. Test p raws are less than test e raws. I was wrong before. I retract my previous statement

>>35601468

Mirin 4 pl8 warmup :^)

Ima hit 450 by the end of my bike mark my words

>>35601419
You're cutting. It's probably glycogen depletion killing strength.

Personally squat and dl has always suffered on a cut for me. I'm a huge fan of low carb cuts so it's to be expected.

As other people mentioned if strength matters to you consume all carbs preworkout.

>>35601439
1-2x a week

>>35601453
Tru, will try to think of differences between than and now

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>>35601403
>$2/gram test
>avg

>>35601452
Yeah i have before, but idk what's going on right now

Lately I've been lifting fasted with a pwo, maybe I'll have to give it a try and see if it makes a difference
I was riding my bike a lot to and from work recently due to car trouble, so that could be it, though i still don't see any reason for it to drop that fucking low

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>>35601370
Sheerly out of curiosity, whats the difficulty level of homebrewing? I mean would you require some sort of scientific background?

Whenever I hear of someone buying raws themself I immediately think of pic related.

>>35601548
>Lately I've been lifting fasted
You're glycogen depleted.

Glycogen = strength

>>35601525
Ooh okay.
Thought it might be cns related

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>>35601471

ikr

like holy fuck, a THIRD less per key?

min $7k profit per even with insane discounts

>>35601502

last pr was 570, should hit mid 6s at least if not 7 by the time I'm done

esp since I'll be bulking, squatting twice a week, and doing targeted assistance work for my off the floor in addition to my normal deads session

>>35601554

can you measure things and combine them while observing a really dumbed-down version of sterile procedure? it's like baking with an extra step or two

Whats your fastest growing body part?

>inb4 dong

Mine are my legs by far. I cant do hypertrophy for legs or else ill rip my pants in a month, so I stick to power exclusively

>>35601562
Then why would I be gaining strength in all my other lifts?

>>35601554
its literally koolaid

>>35601578
Same, squat is easy mode as fuck, still skyrocketing throughout my cut, meanwhile my Bench is moving slowly as fuck.

I attribute it to skateboarding all the time as a kid

>>35601554

Dude its like making a cake

Unless you catastrophically fuck up the basic instructions, its gonna be a cake

>>35601568
If i don't have to measure in freedom units, sure.
Don't you need like a round beaker and a bunson burner and like some kind of centrifugal spinner? Oh and one of those swirly glass tubey things that I always see on tv that I think maybe collect evaporation?

>>35601584
Many possible factors.

Easiest explanation:
Less muscles used.

Deadlift uses more muscles than any other lift. It's going to suffer the most.

>>35601578
Mine is delts prolly

>thank you bases androgen receptors

>>35601630
Makes sense I suppose

I will try eating a ton of carbs pwo next time and let you guys know

Thanks

So much more helpful than plg, the people you'd expect to have a lot of insight on this lel

>>35601568
Jesus christ youre strong. Must be a bitch to unload the plates tho kek

>>35601650
Your on a cut and you asked plg for advice?

Do you see the flaw in your logic?

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>>35601620

look I'm all rah rah 'merica, but jesus christ the imperial system is fucking retarded and I'll freely admit metric is so much better and less football bat retarded

if you're going like crazy cheap you can get a setup going for like under $100

>>35601658

I really don't look like I move that much weight do I

>(p) = projected
bench: 375(p)
squat: 485(p)
dead: 570
ohp: 225

>Must be a bitch to unload the plates tho kek

you have no fucking idea, shit's terrible

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>>35601675
>Your on a cut and you asked plg for advice?
Kekd

>>35601675
Lel
Yeah I see it now

>>35601742
>>35601742
>>35601742
New thread homos