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Cheating
Frauds
General

>to gf or not to gf, that is the question

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>>35582410
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>roids
Enjoy your osteoporosis, LOL
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faggots are for manlet steroids
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>>35590225
>natty
Enjoy your death by natural causes
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How long is/was your longest cycle?
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>>35590248
Dont even know
Its been soo long ;_;
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>supposed to lift at 7p
>qt3.14 got held over at work till 7p
>needs picked up
>women killing my gains
>y am i even trying
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>>35590263
Aren't you worried you may have fucked up your natural test production for life?
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>>35590264
Guess you could say,,, she needed a lift
XD
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>>35590272
Its 2016
Who cares about natural test production any more?

srs btw, just pin test 4life
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>>35590272
It'd be a greater concern if supplementing it weren't so retardedly easy, and beneficial, and if it were even a slightly likely possibility.
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>>35590213

I'm new to this whole sterons thing. Would this retarded for babbys first cycle?

I already have a good size I enjoy but can't for the life of me cut down properly. I seem to go from looking decent but soft to dyel. I figured this cycle should be good for moderate gains and keep me full while being lean.

Or should I just stick to putting on mass?
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>>35590284
Do you believe it's highly unlikely to get permanent shutdown?

>>35590282
Why don't u use a tripcode? and do you really think you will have the same mindset in 10 years time?
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>>35590285
You shouldnt taper down test
Bold is way too low and should be ran for longer if you wana run it (imo)

Primo 2 expensive and 2 often faked to be worth it imho

But you do you
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What's testosterone?
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Trying to do a nice cut and harden recomp. Tren-e 600, test e 250, t3 100mcg , mtren 1mg. How does that sound for 3 months?
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>>35590328
Testosterone is a steroid hormone from the androgen group and is found in humans and other vertebrates. In humans and other mammals, testosterone is secreted primarily by the testicles of males and, to a lesser extent, the ovaries of females. Small amounts are also secreted by the adrenal glands. It is the principal male sex hormone and an anabolic steroid.
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>>35590324
You do you babby boo
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>>35590313
>Why don't u use a tripcode?
I use to.
Just cant be bothered now.
No one ever pretends to be me, and if you frequent fraud you'll know its me by my style of posting.

>mindset in 10 years
Idk honestly.
Kinda just wana live in the moment
yolo, you know?
And the worst case senario is just having to take a injection once a week

To me it is worth it
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>>35590285
Llywellyn's example cycles are all crap.
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>>35589933
>>35590347
Thanks MT
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>>35590324
money isnt really an issue... i'm willing to pay a bit as long as it's not bunk

but a "cutting" cycle wouldn't be retarded for a first one? and thanks for the feedback, i'll look into upping EQ
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>>35590331
T3 is p high mang

But yea, looks fun overall, just kinda sketch about 3months straight on mtren tho
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>>35590356
I figured... everywhere else people are talking about up to a gram of primo.... not sure if trolling or...
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>>35590368
>cutting" cycle wouldn't be retarded for a first one?
Steroids are /way/ more effective at building muscle, than burning fat.

They just happen to have fat burning qualities.

You could prolly do a decent recomp tho, if diet is on point
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>>35590354
How much do you normally use?
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>>35590368
>as long as it's not bunk
theres your problem
also the whole cycle is retarded
id do 350 test prop with 350 mast prop if i wanted to do a cutting cycle while keeping sides low
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>>35590392
>They just happen to have fat burning qualities.
Are we really going to get into this again.
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>>35590407
>normally
~400mg trenE
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>>35590420
god pls no

Les just leave it
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>>35590409
Mast over tren?
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>tfw you will never fuck 15-16 y.o.s
>too awkward throughout high school
>finally become social and start getting laid afterward
>get gf
>now I'm too old even in their eyes/:
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>>35590453
if you want low side effects, obviously yes
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>>35590425
you pin tren a or e? why?
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>>35590468
What if it was just about results not sides
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>>35590460
why not? do you look old?
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>>35590473
tren all the way, the more the better
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>>35590479
600mg tren e and 250 test e with 100mcg t3, that good for a cut stack?
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Using roids for cutting with a dyel body is just a waste.

I lost zero muscle while cutting(low carb) natty, using only food. Showed pic

Food makes you shredded and big goddammit.

And go off cycle in a while. YOU'RE NOT LOSING ALL THE GAINS. I showed numerous pictures. On and off cycle.

Don't yolo with your health.

Allah
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first blast coming to an end, gonna cruise until the next one, what do you recommend for a mass blast? this one was 500mg test e/wk for 16w. i'm thinking npp/deca, but shouldn't npp be pinned EOD? for 16 weeks that can become annoying i'd guess. or is tren bulking better?
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>>35590460
>tfw you will never fuck 15-16 y.o.s
/you/ will never :p

>>35590471
Mostly E, cuz cheaper per mg and less frequent pinning
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>>35590494
idk if i would run the t3 that high but sure
ill be running 750 tren 250 test for my next blast, probably going to add in a replacement dose of t3 as well (~20 µg)

but if you feel fine with running t3 that high its probably fine, youll burn fat faster for sure
>>35590504
everyone doesnt have the same genetics
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Hey frauds, I'm about to start my first cycle, 400mg test e per week for 13 weeks. I'm planning on pinning on Mondays and Thursdays for convenience's sake. I'm also take 30mg var per day for the first 4 weeks (and some at the end too so I can finish the cycle and go straight onto pct).

Anyway if I start the var today how quick will it crash my test? I'll be fine to take 2 days worth before the first test pin without suffering low test?

Thanks guys
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>>35590504
Wtf.
Why did you change your name?
Youre masstest no?
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>>35590535
>be fine to take 2 days worth before the first test pin without suffering low test?

Rofl
You'll be 100% fine doing that, srs
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>>35590477
No I actually look pretty young for my age

Soon to be 22, I feel like if I hit on any girl that young she's just be creeped out though.

Suppose I could always just try the oldest trick in the book: lying
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>>35590535

It takes like 2 weeks for test-e to kick in anyway. Two days is fine.
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>>35590213
is it normal for incline bench to wreck my shoulder joints? did it for the first time yesterday and don't know if it'll get better or i should stop
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>>35590535
Your balls will turn to raisins & you'll die.
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>>35590558
I'll smash a 15 yo for you bro
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>>35590550
>>35590559
Thanks guys that's what I thought, but now it's finally time to start I was nervous. Gonna start this shit up.
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>>35590567
Your form is fuckt.
Nothing you do in the gym should "rek your shoukder joints"
Cmon
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>>35590567
Are you 1R maxing?
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>>35590573
You lose your virginity yet?
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>>35590602
Where have you been?
Smashed x2 allready
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>>35590588
nah. only other thing i did that could've hurt it was lateral raises but i do those all the time and never have trouble
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>>35590264
>supposed to go lift with gym bro at 11AM
>get there on time
>he has to leave 5mins in to go talk to crazy ex and current woman
>says he'll be back at noon to spot me on bench for 1RM
>doesn't get back til 1PM
>at least the jesus dude wasn't there

God damn women trying to steal my gains through proxy (is that what that means?)

Anyways hit 345lb bench and failed 355 so it's safe to say I'm back to where I was before getting sick last week

Roll of shame with 355 tho cause no spotter

>women are a fucking meme anyway

Also pic related happened today and pissed me off like wtf how do you forget what you were talking about 10 minutes ago when it's literally still in front of your face. I told her to go back and reread the messages and she still didn't know what I was talking about
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>>35590623
either a) she's dumb
or b) she's a bot
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>>35590623
She could have cleared her msgs.
She prolly didnt, just saying tho
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>>35590635
>bot
Kek this is my cheer partner from last year
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>>35590623
>>35590635
>>35590641
Update: it was autocorrect. I don't know what she tried to type but it wasn't encephalitis
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>>35590623
>we learned a(bout) encephalitis today and did some stretching
is that like enchiridon?
>You act like i know what that is
it was a joke lol what's your thing?
>lol my thing with what?
Encephalitis

so she said she learned about encephalitis and you asked her what her thing with it was
... what the fuck were you talking about cheerbro? what "thing"? how did you expect her to respond?
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Sorry for posting in the wrong thread but i think you can answer my question.

Cutting on chicken breasts+salad reporting in. What supplements should i buy for sustainin or achieving skin/mood healt gains. Can't think of anything but flaxseed oil+optimen. Should i buy Q10+l-carnitine for a big heart? ZMA mb? Or something else. I don't need any cutting advice [spoiler]i've read the sticky and have successful cutting expirience 110->75 myself[/spoiler], physical and mental (cognitive especially) health is my main concern.
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>>35590716

Fish oil, maybe a multi vit. Don't bother with anything else.
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>>35590735
flaxseed oil > fish oil, m8
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>>35590716
oil supplement is a good idea
vitamin d3 is always good
coq10 is good but unnecessary if your cholesterol and bp is fine
stimulants (ec is probably the best bet) will help you with the lethargy
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just had my SAP exam

i think i did pretty well

feels good man
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>>35590568
Hopefully they'll stop being in the way of my clean and jerk then. Don't like the sound of the dying though.
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I eat PBnJ while watching cheerleading shit streamed to my TV. GOML boys

>>35590705
Hey, fuck you buddy
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>eat bad-normal carbs (rice, bread, pasta, etc)
>get bloated like the michelin man
>eat really good carbs (beans, lentils, peas, etc)
>get lots of gas and in some cases bloat cause of so much gas and I can't just fart anywhere


Just can't win bros, ima stick to just protein and fatty stuff.
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>>35590609
I remember you said you fingered some girls butthole but I left for a while after that sometime around where the pedo was hanging around and everyone left
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>>35590533
Genetics don't matter if you don't wanna be a ifbb pro. Nobody over here got enough mass to lose everything.

>>35590538
Who's Masstest kek.

>>35590797
Good job. Boss life is almost there buddy
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>>35591029
yes, genetics matter
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>>35591029
I live in sweden and see enough of this muslim shit can you please change your name
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>>35590985
Defaq?
Ive never fingered a butthole lol
I put my penis in one tho.

Syeah, smashed analgirl and festivalgirl (girl I met a at a week long party vestival, as the name implies)

>>35591029
>Who's masstest
A big guy 4 u
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>>35590363
>needs 4 fucking pics to drill a hole in a fucking pvc pipe

lmao
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>>35591060
Ah so you did smash festival girl
Good stuff

>healing acne is a bitch
Itches constantly
Dry as fuck skin
Constantly bumping it or stretching causing it to break and bleed
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16.30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quESXOkrsfo

piano is fucking CRAZY
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posting so pics get organized
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>>35591092
Fucked her right in the vagoo

Lol, her cousin walked in on my naked butt
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>tfw dick is cut the fuck up from too much wanking

Tren pls
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>>35591151
Did her cousin like what she saw?

Would have been funnier if she walked in on you balls deep
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>>35591151
*raped her right in the vagoo

african please
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>>35591038
Of course they matter it's the most important factor in bb, but everyone over here can achieve a good looking physique. Even with mediocre genetics, you can go off cycle without losing all the gains.

We all know most use it for the mental aspects.

>>35591044
You can't stop us. We will breed with your kind. Rape your daughters en sisters.

Genocide is upon us
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>>35590225
learn to distininguish anabolic steroids and corticosteroids, pleb
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>>35591177
Find yourself a nice slut man

>>35591184
It was around 5am
Her cousin (older, was suppose to look after her that weekend) walked in on me on top of her

Gave a look of dissapointment and irritability and just said "Really, festivalgirl?"
And walked away

>>35591188
Bleh
Still counts
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>>35591092
Youre shedding Manlet, is first stage of snek
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>>35591086
He needs to tie two knots as well
>something something steroid user stereotypes
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>>35591194
how would you know what others can or cant do?
the fact that you were able to get a good physique natty doesnt mean that you just "trained really hard and did everything right", it means you did a good job of training and eating right while having good genetics
a "good looking physique" wouldnt be just that if it was easy, or even possible, for everyone to do

but sure, look down on everyone else if it helps you feel better about yourself
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>>35591215
HA!.. HA HA
That is heaps better
Why on earth would she be disappointed? Her cousin was getting it in kek

>>35591222
I am actually lozard ppl
We rule the world
I will show my final form soon
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>>35591029
>Good job. Boss life is almost there buddy
thanks bro

i'm very motivated now to go even harder for my school chit

gotta get all those fancy certificates and then get myself a well paid job with a company mercedes

yeaap yeaap
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>>35591259
That night morning was soo full of lols man.
I had trouble getting my dick hard at 1st
Told her to like try and wank it sonit gets hard

She was like lolno, then I just told her kk going to the bathroom to fix my broken dick.

I still thank allah to this day I got it to work
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>>35591293
What?? She wouldn't touch your dick to try get it hard? Was she fuckin 12?
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>>35590285
If I were you I'd pin Test-E and Tren-E

That's what I'm doing now and I'm primarily trying to cut

I'm pinning 750 test and 500tren per week and taking a low dose of t3 to keep my metabolism upa and help me lose fat
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i ordered all this pct stuff because i decided i need to come off after 3 years of gear before i fuck myself permanently (if not too late already)

but watching this piano series makes me wanna blast like never before and get huge
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>>35591258
Wow, i didn't know you gonna be all defensive and shit. Relax buddy

I'am just telling that losing all your muscle when you go off cycle is just a myth.

Why would i look down on ppl. I try to help ppl, instead of looking down on them ratherly.

I think you're misinterpreted my point. You seem like a cool kid, because you're always helping ppl, so i see no reason to attack you.

>>35591265
Good job breh, i hope you achieve your goals.

Respecting the dedication.
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>>35591326
Idk mang
She said something like "yeah I dont do that"

Idgaf tho, her vagoo was nice and I got to play with her boobies. So tsall good.

She's 18 btw*
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Get email from manager

>hi manlet, why hasn't this been brought on to charge yet?
Because it requires action from federal employees before I can act on it
>oh well what's wrong?
Not really relevant. All we need to concern ourselves with is that we can do it yet and the commonwealth will take care of it
>oh but like how long before it gets done?

I fucking fuming
Fucked if I know bitch it isn't my job to know. There's some fuck knuckle in an office, paid by the government who's job it is to deal with that.

It's taking all my strength to not abuse her via email
She won't shut the fuck up about it
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>>35591333
Trips confirms it, dont go off.
Sell the pct and buy more gear / hookers
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>>35591400
So basically she's a little prude
At least you got to smash and play with boobies
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>>35591395
im not defensive, im just mad at you because you keep trivializing other peoples problems just because you havent faced them yourself
like you just told a guy who has tried to cut several times but keeps losing signifcant amounts of muscle each time that he "doesnt need steroids to cut" because you did it and that we dont need to b&c and that we should just look at your pics to see that everyone can do what you do

dont do that, its disrespectful and very unhelpful
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>>35591423
nah man

i think i really need to come off before my body is shut down PERMANENTLY (if not too late)

i still want the option of walking away from all this stuff
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>>35591440
>So basically she's a little prud
I really dont get it.
I only met her this holiday.
Had to tell her more than 10 times to take her panties off before she eventually did it.

>>35591458
Well goodluck.
Hope you do well with whateves you do
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>>35591492
are you calling a girl you raped a prude
is this real life
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>>35591492
>>35591492
if i dont see any improvement in my hair from coming off completely for several months i will probably say fuck it and never come off again
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Spent the weekend with the fuckbuddy. Went to Portland and then she promptly thanked me when we got back by squirting all over a new jacket I got myself.

Her coworkers won't stop buggin her about me either. Feels good being high value.
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since marc lobliner disabled the comment section on his videos his rating are down the drain

lol

nobody watches anymore

he's becoming totally irrelevant

how much longer before he turns the comments back on and gets owned harder than ever before?
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>>35591454
It's just my view aka my opinion.

When ppl say things like: 'why not pinning and feel like god all the time'. It's not because of keeping the gains.

Nobody over here is big enough to lose any gains.

I'am just telling what i experience. At the end of the day you gotta do what you want. It's your life breh. I have no benefit with this? Oh yeah, i want all the gains for myself. Kek

You're mad because I am telling the truth. It's cool.
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>>35591518
Jerr pls
I never said she's prude
Pls

There is still a chance she'll go to a /close/ by uni.
Which will be cool.


>>35591520
I srsly doubt hair will inprove. Sorry.
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>>35591492
I've known a few girls like that
Slutty as fuck, talks a big game, want the D
But when it comes time they get timid as fuck and it's a big deal just getting their pants off
Fucking annoying
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>>35591546
>Spent the weekend with the fuckbuddy
that sounds like a girlfriend. Not a fuck buddy
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>>35591557
>I srsly doubt hair will inprove. Sorry.


some pros who destroyed their kidneys or went to prison got a lot of hair back after going off

craig titus not being one of them
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>>35591520
why don't you just get a hair implant if it is so important to you?
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>>35591591
fuck off troll bait
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>>35591558
After like 10 times of telling her to take it off / trying to pull it off she was like "ummm Ive been very lazy lately,,,"

aka not shaved.
Told her straight idgaf.
Then she said it again, then I was like "look, I know what you are saying. Idgaf"

Wasnt even really hairy tho, weird.
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>>35591551
>It's just my view aka my opinion.
well my view is that youre being a dick, and im just telling you that youre not only a dick but also wrong
>You're mad because I am telling the truth
no, your anecdotes are not objective truths
>Nobody over here is big enough to lose any gains.
how would you know? because you didnt lose all your gains when you came off? guess what, everyone isnt you
people are different and you dont seem to realize that
>I'am just telling what i experience.
no youre telling other people what to do based entirely on your own experiences even if they provide you with information that directly contradicts what youre saying
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>>35591454
And me saying that if i can do it, everyone can do it. Is that negative? That's a motivation imo.

What do i need to say the next time?

Iammmm the best. I have the besttt genetics yeeeyy. You need steroids, but i don't. Looll. Loserssss.
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>>35591582
Haven't you ever spent the weekend with a buddy? Why should it be different with a fuckbuddy/

>>35591614
What about hair transplant surgery?
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>>35591614
?
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>>35591639
no you just dont have to be an asshole about it
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>>35591615
i love nigresses with hairy pussies

i hate those razor pimples bitches always have from shaving irritation

makes me think of dexter jacksons neck
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>>35591582
Maybe.

I'm definitely not interested in that though, but she could be. I'll just keep making her squirt and making her give me dope massages.
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>>35591666
>i love nigresses with hairy pussies
no thank you.

It wasnt really hairy, donno how fast you guyses pubes grow but it was like mine if I didnt shave / trim for like a week.
So yeah, really not that bad
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i refuse to believe there are still people who believe hair transplants are not a fucking troll

show me one successful result from someone with severe hairloss

just one!!!

it's a fucking joke, just spreading around some leftover hair over the bald head, most of which is even rejected by the body and doesnt stick
then you're left with a ton of little scars (fue) or a massive scar (strip)

fucking trolls

>in b4 you post hollywood actors wearing wiggs and believe they are transplants
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>>35591639
tfw need steroids
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>>35591711
that would be pretty hairy then probably close to a 1cm
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>>35591714
http://www.buzzfeed.com/kimberleydadds/42-celebrity-men-who-are-less-bald-than-they-used-to-be#.vpMlJX3Pm
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>>35591615
haha that's all it wasn't? What an idiot.
At least it wasn't that bad
I make the missus shave regularly because it's pretty bad when she doesn't.
She's even talked about just getting it lasered off

>>35591652
No, no I have not.
The only time I've spent the weekend with a female friend we ended up fuck ohhhhhhh

>>35591666
Disgusting on so many levels

>>35591701
Sounds like a decent arrangement
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>>35591631
Are you even serious? Kek. I need to type everything on my phone. I can't react to everything properly.

We all know that most ppl over here think it's all about muhhhh tren. Muhh nectar. Who needs food?

But if you want to be a asshole about it, it's okay. I thought you were different . Too bad, you're just some autistic frustrated kid.

When iam on a pc i will discuss this further with you if you want. By the time just breathe easily and count to ten, to ease your ass down
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>>35591724
Prolly around there.
Idk.
Didnt /feel/ very bushy.
Idk.
Not like I inspected her vagoo, I just shoved it in.

>>35591740
Yeah lol.
Then next she was like "-_- soo,,, you got a condom?"
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>>35591738
that page

>obvious wigs
>growing out balding hair and styling it
>transplants with unimpressive results

what else?
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>>35591750
lol ok, you dont get what im saying
whenever you reply to someone in these threads, youre replying to a person
if a person tells you that he keeps losing muscle when hes cutting and you reply with "nobody in these threads is big enough to lose muscle, you just need to cut normally" how does that help him?
just reflect on that, im going to bed now
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>>35591788
honestly what the fuck is wrong with you and your mentality you should see a shrink
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accidentally posted in the stale bread

>>35589347
If you have a Droid, it's called Snapprefs bruh. Auto save anything and everything, and they'll never know you saved it.

anyways
sup brehs
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>>35591824
mentality?

i'm just in touch with reality, if you get fooled by obvious wigs that's a problem of yours not mine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHnlxTxq74g
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hi fags, can someone link me thread where some elite powerlifters (dan green, zahir etc.) cycles were posted, cant find it through google
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>>35591791
Do i speak to a person? I wasn't aware of that. Thank you for the clarification breh.

Yes, i know what you're saying. I get your point.

I'am just saying that most over here can cut over here without losing muscle. I always state to use the gear to gain muscle,instead for cutting. Unless you're bnc for years and got enough mass to be able to lose muscle.

How is that not helping? Iam saving him money and telling him to be more efficient
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>>35591758
Oh god
Every time
Every time that happens I'm like "ah shit I knew I was forgetting some things. Sorry guess we can't do anything."
Then just roll away and don't touch them

Every time they come crawling over and start rationalising it away and saying nah it'll be okay haha
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30 celebrities who wear hair pieces

get a clue morons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItEk6Orazz0


lol @ idiots who think it's hair transplants!!!
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Tfw cap is loose and it leaks tren ;_;
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>>35591874
Lol.
Im too thirsty to risk it lol.
I had one in my wallet, thank god

Think I wana yolo that preg chick without one tho, just cuz she cant get x2 pregnant
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$1.5 billion dollar lottery brehs. Better get your tickets.
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>>35591901
I haven't used a condom in like two years lol. I haven't pulled out with my last two gfs either, and neither one used birth control.

Kinda thinkin' I had low T and a naturally low sperm count, and then the 'roids just made the sperm count even lower 'cause muh LH and FSH
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>>35591921
Wow, poverty resolution image my b.
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>>35591921
dont bother ive already got the winning ticket
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>>35591900
>cyclefags gear
I'm watching you boo
Also he still slinging?
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>>35591947
Arent you scarred of gegging trapped?
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>>35591901
lel Iv only used a condom a handful of times in my life
Somehow always gotten lucky when fucking sluts and never gotten a disease
Never used condoms with any gf, always came inside the last ex and in gf
But both are on top of birth control so low risk there

>>35591900
Email him and send the pic
Guarantee he'll sort something out
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>>35591851
Try /PIG/ (I would be interested to see how they react, I'm pretty sure they would remove your post)
There is some cycles we thought of earlier in the thread if you look through it from when someone else asked
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I'm using EQ for the first time, is the blood clotting a real concern or is that a fringe and overblown thing?

Running TestE 600/wk TrenE 400/wk and EQ 500/wk. Totes excited brahs
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>>35591740
It's really not bad. She's a pretty busy girl, but I just tell when I want it and she moves shit around.

I told her I'm coming over Thursday night and she asked "oh yeah? I work Thursday 5-10" and I said "so? I'm coming over Thursday night" and I just got an okay good and a smack on the ass.

I dont get the issues you guys have. Ladies generally do as I tell them.
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this is so sad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCJd0Wr9sm4

wearing a wig is so embarrassing

i prefer to be bald than wear a wig

sm h

that's not life
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>>35591865
your reply made it sound that you were trying to make a point regarding the "culture" in these threads (that drugs are everything) rather than help the guy you were replying to

>I'am just saying that most over here can cut over here without losing muscle.
so what? that guy doesnt give a shit about what most people should be able to do

>How is that not helping?
hes asking about a solution to a problem and youre telling him that "most people" (meaning you, since you only go by your own experiences) dont have that problem and advise against finding a solution
not very helpful, just rude

and the whole thing about how most people "dont need" to do steroids to reach their goals just because you got big and lean without steroids
it isnt "motivation", its just bragging
at least thats how most people who read it interpret it (going by how popular your posts about how you looked natty were)

its nothing personal dude i just dont think youre being as helpful as you think you are, theres nothing wrong with giving harsh truths but you have to make sure theyre actually true first

legit going to sleep now, will read your reply in the morning if you leave one
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>>35592032
should still beed yourself
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I don't remember Netflix having such a garbage selection of things to watch

What should I watch on Netflix
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>>35592074
glitter force
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>>35592074
Netflix is pretty aids
Just pirate imo

And idk what are you into?
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>>35592038
Staying up past 10 to get sex
That sounds truly exhausting
Although I suppose I always have to be up early for work maybe you don't :^)

I have no desire to tell girls what to do (for the most part) because I have no desire to plan dates and go do shit.
It's generally boring and I'd rather do something we both enjoy, rather than visit places or do activities just for the sake of doing them.
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>>35591967
This is the only problem ive had with him

>>35592004
Ill give that a go wasted like 1ml and got tren all over my hands
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>>35590473
250mg Test E
500mg Tren E
30mg Halotestin ED
1mg Metribolone ED
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>>35591558
picking up club sluts with platinum blonde hair perfectly tan skin wearing three bras got the fucking tattoos and shit and your just like yea this girl is fucking dirty im gonna do horrible shit to her then u get her home and shes like i dont usually do this like your hands are cold lets just cuddle. fucking shit bitch i just wanna fuck you. its like false advertising.
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>>35590460
Im honest with my age and some 15 yo's want my D, even though I'm 30. :/
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>>35591947
>I haven't pulled out with my last two gfs either, and neither one used birth control.

you're dumb and lucky
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>>35592051
How often? I'm running that shit for 10 weeks Once every 5 weeks during and 5 weeks after straight? The baby aspirin thing do anything? I've read a lot of conflicting stuff haha. I appreciate the comment.
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Are any of you guys on any specific diets on/off cycle? I keep hearing about all these bodybuilders that try to either cut all carbs or cut all fats from their diet to prepare for a competition- anyone got xp with that crap? All the actual info I find is completely conflicting.

Or do you just count your calories/preotines and eat whatever?
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>>35592097
No man Netflix is my only option
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>>35592107
How did that even happen?
The stuff is always wrapped in bubble wrap and inside baggies tight as fuck

>>35592117
kek that's why you get brutal and kick them the fuck out
Or if you're at theirs you leave
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>>35592074
the vampire diaries, it sounds gay as fuck but it is good
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>>35592140
probably just towards the end
maybe the beginning and the end if youve been on roids for a while before

baby asprin is a blood thinner, so itll help but its magnitudes weaker
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>>35592146
Ya its always takes me forever to unwrap the vials from all the tape. Guess its just one of those one ina thousand things
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>>35592106
Work at 1145.

Shits never boring for me because I tell them what I want to do. I figure if they don't like it they'll speak up.
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>>35592170
word, thanks a lot brother, much appreciated. i'll get drawn like week 7 and 14 then. I'll pop the aspirin too, can't hurt right haha.
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>>35592149
this. but just like supernatural, it starts strong but gets repetitive
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>>35592046
Yes most use gear over here, but don't eat enough to make use oug of it properly. I still say that, but that's something else. Most know this, but rather don't say anything about it, because they know it's the truth.

You think i only got this because my genetics? You don't think i need to eat 7 meals a day and train my ass of 5 times a week. If you say something like that , you're really ignorant and a joke.

You're no different than those natties that say to us: ohhhh it's all about roids. He just injected and got muscle. Everyone can do that.

Because most ppl in cbt that are natty look bigger than most ppl over here? That's why iam saying that.

I never Bragged about anything. You don't even know the definition.

If i want i could, but iam not like that. I rather share my experiences to help ppl achieve their goals, instead of being autistic and jelly like you.

I hope you wakeup tomorrow and realize you were autistic about this.

I have no problem to discuss about this further. No problem at all
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>>35591994
nah bruh. I'm fearless
One of them had two kids so I'm assuming she's incredibly fertile. If I didn't get her pregnant, I really think there might be something wrong with me hahaha.

Kinda gives me some feels because if I ever actually want kids, that may mean I'll have some difficultly/be unable to.
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>>35592187
Damn nig unlucky

>>35592189
Well 99% of women like men taking charge
So you're gonna keep winning
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>>35592259
The guys who actually are smart about gear here don't ever post cbt for the most part. I think that gives a perception of a bunch of dyels talking about gear but thats probably only 90% true.
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I fucked up the first pin I did on my own and I can already feel that tomorrow Im gonna have some gnarly pip

Fuck I guess learning is a process boys
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>>35592320
They don't post pics because they know ppl are going to say :

>dyell
>roiding for this
Etc

Ppl have to do what they want. I just don't why ppl use gear and don't maximize the gains and eat properly.

Yeahhh, but you got genetics. That's unfairrr.. he's cheating. Life's unfairrr

No you're just looking for a way out.
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http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/BackGeneral/LVCloseGripBentOverRow.html

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/BackGeneral/LVBentOverRow.html

which one? also how much you think i can do on tbar row if i dumbbell row 90lbs? just double? or would it be more or less?
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>>35592320
It's because they don't commit to the diet and schedule too. Juice isn't a magic bullet, and that's something that isn't emphasized enough. You have to exceed your usual macro, effort, etc. to make use of it
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>>35592404
>They don't post pics because they know ppl are going to say :
>>dyell
>>roiding for this
blame the fake natties in the fitness industry for that, not anons on 4chan
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>>35592320
>The guys who actually are smart about gear here don't ever post cbt for the most part
pretty much sums it up
There's a fair few trips and some anons who are fucking sick kents brah
But they don't post pics
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>>35592331
Welcome to the fraud life brother

Rip in pip
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What stack did Thomas Jane run for The Punisher?
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>>35592404
I think its mostly doxxing. For example albfag posted a few a while back and he's definitely maxing out on his gear. We talk diet here nearly as much as gear.
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2015 cycle results. i'm pretty pumped about my results and i fully plan on doing another in 2016. thanks /roids/
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>>35592331
Who has been pinning you? How did you fuck it up?
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>>35592428
I've literally never gotten my diet on point. It's so fucking hard because of how very little I'm actually home. I do what I can to eat the healthiest fast food I can, and I eat restaurant shit like grilled salmon, etc whenever I can afford the time and money.
Just fucking sucks having no time to nail down body. I feel like all the gear I've used in the past two years has been one huge fucking waste.

I know my first round was. Gained 30 pounds in three months of 500mg test e + two 4 week dbol cycles, and then I lost all of it due to a car accident that I was lucky to survive back in 2014. Kept me out of the gym for a few months mainly due to no vehicle anymore.
My exercise schedule after I got my new wheels was so inconsistent after that. I'm finally just now getting back on point with it. If I could just nail down my diet, shit was be cash bros.
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>>35592453
What the fuck is this
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>>35592430
Just start with a decent base and enough knowledge about diet and training. You will be fine.

>>35592446
Just make a screenshot and change the size of the picture. Also remove recognizable elements. Nobody will doxx you. I have Instagram, but nobody doxxed me while iam the most hated.

>>35592453
This is what i mean, smhhh
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>>35592465
Bro, get into meal prepping. I cook twice a week total and it's made my diet sooo much easier to maintain. When you're food is always ready and on hand you cant bullshit yourself out of being diligent with lazy ass tired excuses.
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>>35592457
That guy could get a much better chick, just from looking at his ass you can tell he's good looking
>no homo
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>>35592487
some would call it bait
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>>35592320
>90%
That's still like an A-.
I'll take it.
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>>35592502
Yeah, I have a buddy that does that. I tried it once, but I was so sick of grilled chicken by the end of that week it was unreal.
I don't know enough about nutrition to plan a week's worth of tasty food with some variety lol. I wouldn't mind making the same meals each week. Just need a little nudge in the right direction as to some alternatives to grilled chicken and rice 4 times a day every day
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>>35592502
>>35592538
Where do I learn to meal prep?
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>>35592538
I pretty much eat the same shit I just use different sauces
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>>35592538
You can pay people to do your nutrition then pay people to do your food.
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>>35592550
Just cook in bulk, and divide it into tupperware containers.
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>>35592538
Look I feel you bro. I don't know how to cook shit, never have, never will. I've been lifting for 5 years and only did the plain grilled chicken bullshit for the first two. Get a sous vide, that shit will make cooking and prep a cakewalk. Get a zojirushi rice cooker (or any of those fancy ones that keep shit fresh for days) and you can throw any grain (rice quinoa etc) or veggies in there and streamline that. Get some sushi grade or high quality fish from restaurant depot or some place idk where you live; you could get a huge salmon or tuna and pre-pack that shit and eat it raw or with a little bit of sauce.

I went from disgusting grilled chicken every day to alternating days of chicken, steak (sous vide or on a grill,) fish, chicken, steak, fish, etc. Shit never gets boring, just change up the veggies, grains, or sauce every now and then.
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>>35592457
Chem did my first pin to show me how/where

I fucked it up when I put it in the glute and dropped the syringe when the needle was all the way in. So it kinda dangled. I also pinned virgin muscle so that too
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>>35592538
Salmon, other fish, lean meat, cottage cheese, pork, Turkey etc etc.

Rice, potatoes, spaghetti, oats etc.

You know how to inject gear but not the basics about nutrition. Smhh

You can use different spices like: cayenne pepper, pepper, different spices for chicken etc without salt(bb friendly)

So many options.
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>>35592584
Virgin muscle and a dangling syringe? Have fun with that for the next week.
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>>35592538
here's a lifehack but don't tell anyone else about it: plan out 10-12 different meals with good macros and write down how many calories it's got. (if you're autistic then you can write down how many exact grams of fat and carbs and protein it's got too, but if it has bad macros then it shouldn't be one of your recipes anyways..) just pick a meal that's close to how many calories you have left and make it and eat it
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>>35592581
>eating food cooked in plastic
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>>35592629

shit's delicious bro. locks in all the juices and seasoning and flavors and shit. you do you tho.
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>>35592605
Its not autistic. Its really, really easy on your nutrition if you have 4 or 5 meals with very similar macros for dinner, lunch, and breakfast that you can rotate. It makes it a breeze and you can prep them in advance.
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>>35592641
i'm not saying it's not delicious, i'm saying that it's terrible for your hormones. have you srsly never heard about that?
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>>35592553
what do you eat, and what sauces do you use?

>>35592560
a buddy of mine owns a store similar to nutrishop/gnc and works as a personal trainer. Pretty huge, but natty. I was thinking about seeing if he'd build me some kind of nutrition plan. I know he charges clients $30, but we're bros so he may do it free/discounted. Hope so anyway.

>>35592581
I'm gonna have to look some of that shit up 'cause that sounds cash af. Is salmon safe to eat raw? 'Cause I love the shit out of it, but when I tried to start meal prepping some of that, I was told that it goes bad if you throw it in a fridge right after cooking it. Never thought about trying it raw tho.
All in all, thanks for the tips bro.

>>35592587
yeah bro, it's a lot easier to juggle blasts, cruises, and know the pros and cons of artificial hormone use and how to put it in your body than it is to figure out this and that about calories and macro percentages and shitlike that. I've used MyFitnessPal to calculate calories and shit in the past, but that shit turns into a pain in the ass sometimes.
tl;dr I'm a lazy fuck who wishes food cooked itself

>>35592605
I'll look into this. At the very least, I could use the list to meal prep and shit. I work around 12+ hours a day 6 days a week so add the gym to that and any time with my lady, and you can see why I'm literally never home for anything but sleep.

I'll take all this advice and get my shit sorted out. Thanks guys. You're like the gainz fairies 'cause of all the gains I'll make from an improved diet lol.
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I hate meal prep
Cuz food tastes like shit when you have to warm it up again
Chicken all dry and nasty
Rice is too soft

Shit just isn't fun
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>>35592688
brine chicken. 1 minute rice cups.
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>>35592584
I think I probably would have recommended quads for a first pin. It's allot easier to see what you're doing and avoid fucking up.
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>>35592538
Same, I'm so sick of McDonalds for 3 meals a day on my McBulk
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>>35592641
I just throw my shit in a crock pot and leave it alone until I get home from work
>>35592688
Heat it up in a covered pan with a small amount of butter or water instead of the microwave
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>>35592712
Thats terrible for you.
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>>35592671
if you're using anything with a plasticizer, yeah i've heard about it increasing estrogenic activity. you can find safe bags on google with just a minute's worth of time. i've used the foodsaver bags the entire time with no estro issues.
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>>35592712
This has to be bait
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>>35592712
bruh I did that on my first blast. Went from just under 160lbs to a whopping 195 in 12 fucking weeks.
I was a little fluffier than I'd have liked to have been, but I was still only around 15% bf which wasn't bad at all for a 30lbs jump.
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>>35592681
I don't even count anything. I just estimate everything. Old school bb method, but it works.

>>35592688
You're not gonna make it with that mentality. The more you put in it, the more results you get.

Before dieting i always stagnate and had shit results.. But your geneticsss
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>>35592701
>>35592714
how do I do these things at work with only a microwave?
I eat 3 meals a day at work, so I can't have decent food because it always tastes like shit once warmed back up
The other 2-3 meals are fine because I can make them fresh at home
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>>35592747
Well I'll have to try that then. This shit has helped more than y'all know.
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>>35592681
yeah, you can cook salmon and store it (not right away like you mentioned,) or eat it raw sashimi style. i prefer it that way desu. good luck with your gains bro. make sure to include veggies (easy af to make) and some grains or some shit too. then do all your research before following what any of us faggots on here say. you got this!
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>>35592750
No idea, I don't own a microwave.
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>>35592750
Buy a couple of glass bowls that have click on lids. Put meal in bowl. Put bowl in microwave. Like some one said above ad some water or butter to stop it drying out ez pz
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>>35592604

put that on top of a 22g syringe lol

Its actually not as bad as I thought it would be
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>>35592778
thanks dude! Lookin' up some recipes with raw salmon atm plus the rice cookers and sous vide and shit right now.
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>>35592712
>>35592733
That's pretty much what I did my first natty bulk.
I was pretty rolly polly by the end though.
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>>35592766
Don't rush things. Just find out what suits you.
Try to eat 5 meals first with good nutrition. You can up the food when you stagnate.

Vary with different kind of carbs, spices, protons

I also thought like you before. I will never go without dieting anymore, because its more effective than anything. When you experience those crazy gains you will think the same, trust me
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>>35592793
I'll have to locate some
Being able to eat food that isn't dry as fuck would be great
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>>35592750
Brined chicken holds more water in it so heats up better in the microwave. The 1 minute rice cups are similar. If you didn't already know the actual waves sent by a microwave make water molecules move and heat up so thats why even water distribution heats up nicer.
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>>35592794
I pinned with an 18g still attached once. I know the feeling
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>>35592733
>>35592797
>>35592725
>>35592716
I need to cook in bulk like others said, otherwise pita with full time work.


I put on a little fat, not that much though, but I just avoid the sugary drinks.

Post work out I've recently been doing 2 big scoops of peanut butter with table spoon, 3 scoops wpi, 1 scoop casein, 1 banana, 2 eggs, 500mL of milk.
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>>35592814
Oooooh fuck. Might as well have took the needle off the syringe lol
>>
long time natty about to cycle cardariena and LGD (SARMS). what should I excpect?

inb4 do s4 don't wanna go blind
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>>35592833
Thats a good way for rectal delivery desu. Mucus membrane would absorb and cross over oil soluble compounds. But don't do tren like that cause it burns.
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>>35592813
What the fuck is a 1 minute rice cup?
I buy bags of rice and cook it on a stove
You saying I've been missing an easy way of doing this all along??
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>>35592851
cardarine scares me. I don't want cancer.
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>>35592851
Wtf is Cardariena?

LGD is pretty great, I like it. I like the convenience of it. I've done test, and test+tren before, I want to try combining it with test and possibly dbol. Some people say they get lethargy and stuff due to low test while on it.. I haven't noticed, but I'm usually tired in the week anyway from having to work full time and getting up early. Recovery even without any form of pct is fast (unless you add a steroid).
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>>35592864
get a fancy jap cooker. you can load it up and it stays fresh for like 4 days.
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>>35592810
That's what I do anyway and it's never too dry. Usually I put it in for a min, give it a mix then another min until warmed through and it's pretty good. I use glass because fuck plastic and the lids can be left half on which I think helps
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>>35592864
Yes. Just pop it in the microwave for a minute. Those are the cheap ones. You can find some really nice jasmine rice bags that make 2 cups. Those are very good but its too much rice for my meals. You can keep a bunch at work. The brand is Minute
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Anything interesting happen in the last three weeks?
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>>35592814
>18g

Breh I know a horse trainer who pins his horsies with 19g lel

how did it feel?
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Guys. These tren sides are doing a 180.

A separation diet seems to really speed up digestion on tren. Worth a shot if you get stomach probs with tren.

And increasing test and DHTs = better mood. More test = thicker and more estrogen though obviously.
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>>35592903
Did you import your var and mk677? Last time I got mk677 it got seized.
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>>35592852
>cause it burns
:^)
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>>35592933
Try it if you don't believe me
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>>35592922
Var is private local source
MK677 is imported from the tropics
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>>35592949
Ahh, I bought 1g of the powder directly from the U.S. got it once, was good, second time, seized.
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Soo, thinking about tren. mg for mg is it really that much more potent than testosterone?
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>>35592880
cardarine is the common name for GW 501516
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>>35592868
>implying

it gave cancer to mice after a very prolonged high dosage. alot of compounds do that in those conditions
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>>35592983
Gw has conflicting reports, but there's plenty of alternatives so no need for a risk, though it does also improve cholesterol ratios.

>>35592982
For muscle gains, yes.
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I'll give you everything you'll ever need and I'll turn you into a monsta. I think I'll add lgd low dose through my whole cut cycle.
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>>35593015
Add it to what specifically?
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>>35592805
I'm sure bro. I'll do that and try not to rush stuff. I know I've missed a fuckton of gains through shitty eating and missed macros.
>>35592831
I used to carry a thing of peanut butter to work with me and snack on it during the day. Nice source of macros imo. I feel your pain tho. 60-80 hour work weeks fucking suck. I was working a 40 hour job, but I took a paycut and increase in hours to take this job because I got fucking tired of working nights. Completely destroyed my mind and body.
>>35592864
pic related
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>>35592994
Which compounds?
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>>35592976
Sucks dude, customs is a gamble.

>>35593015
I've been considering picking up some LGD or RAD and running it alongside my blasts just to see what it's like.
What dosage of LGD are you considering using?
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>>35593011
what alternatives?
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>>35593037
off the top of my head, protein found in meat, and studies doing high dose prolonged exposure are the basis of all the vegan psuedoscientific bullshit
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>>35592889
Buying even more cooking equipment
Gonna need to throw half the shit I don't use that's filling my kitchen up

>>35592899
Glass will probably be tempered and won't break in my backpack when riding
Or tank bag when I get one

>>35592902
I wi do some searching
See if we have similar product here

>>35592903
Not really
People banned for dumb shit
Natties who think you can get big without gear talk shit
All the same thing really
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>>35593095
Yes but thats true. Its like a 17% increase or something. Very small but its not at all psuedoscience and its also not a PED which was what I thought you meant by compound.
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what dating website should i use to get laid? tinder won't let me make an account since it wont let me verify using my trackphone
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>>35593117
Since you're already getting some new kitchen stuff watch this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNrw2YzCUyY
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>>35593079
caffeine, like EC stack, DMBA
What do you want to use it for?

Formoterol for example I think is stronger then clen, there's some studies behind it, including the latest cachexia conference.

Latest study showed it has something to do with activating leucine, reversing muscle wasting, apparently it inhibits the enzyme that limits leucine metabolism, thereby increasing protein synthesis, another study said it increased strength etc.

Sounds useful whether cutting or bulking, either way.

It's an asthma/respiratory medication that's inhaled, so it should be on some pharma site somewhere. I'd look for one that has it on it's own, not mixed with any anti-inflammatorys etc.
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>>35590213
Guys
Test-E
Aromasin

Nolvadex
HCG

am i good to go for my beginner cycle? i just wanna pin 500mg /week.
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>>35593178
you think ephedrine is safer than cardarine? you're insane
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>>35593242
yes
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>>35593242
Why has hcg hit /fraud/ so much? I don't get where this love or even it being so well known has come from
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>>35593363
what is another way to come off?
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>>35593257
It's an example. Better than cancer in every organ as a potential risk/side. Don't know if it'll do that in humans or not, but still.
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>>35593408
there's no cancer risk in cardarine you retard, stop spreading misinformation
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>>35593242
Aromasin is a very powerful AI.
I'd say too powerful for a simple 500mg test e cycle

HCG is a very powerful Test booster / PCT drug, too powerful for a simple 500mg test e cycle.
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>>35593443
Ignore this.
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>>35593443
>>35593449
uuhhhh
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>>35593443
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>>35593442
>no cancer risk

kek. Okay, those rats got no cancer.
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>>35593395
Nolva
Clomid
Torem
stacking test supps (zinc daa etc)
Time

Not commenting on how effective all these methods are but there are plenty of tools in the arsenal for bringing back natty test.
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>>35593515
>worried about cancer

I bet you're one of those fucks who doesn't eat bacon
>>
http://anabolic.co/anavar-cycles/

>Anavar + Dbol

What?
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>>35593522
On the topic of cycling

Go to reddit and look for this thread
/no_sperm_low_test_urology_appointment_tomorrow/

There's I reason I always tell you guys NEVER use deca if cycling. He's got about year ahead of him before things turn around.
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>>35593567
>All that sodium

Enjoy your bloat kek


I eat bacon, but that is not in the same category of causes cancer simultaneously in all organs, if that applies to humans, which we do not know if it does, hence it's a pretty big risk to gamble, you could just PSMF on tren or something.
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>>35593593
What's wrong with Deca?
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>>35593593
Anything else to avoid while cycling?
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>>35593604
Hey now, a bit of bacon bloat every few months is good

I actually don't really understand using anything other than dnp to cut
If you're gonna use something why use stuff that's been shown to be dangerous?
Dnp is relatively speaking, not very scary and there is even research to try create a less dangerous version of it specifically for weight loss
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>>35593624
It's in your system for a LONG time, and deca shuts your test down 100% if there's even a tiny bit left in your system.
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>>35593628
pedestrians
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>>35593669
To add to this any cars that could open a door on you

Cars in general too
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>>35593654
Is your opinion based on more than one reddit thread?
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>>35593624
Extremely long Ester more suppressive compound.

Metabolites can linger for ATLEAST 8 months after last injection.

If it's injected into scar tissue RIP you're in for a bad time. Slow absorption + long Ester is bad news.
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>>35593651
>not scary

Accidentally your dosage or accidentally a whole alcohol
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>>35593515
>citing and misrepresenting a bad study
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>>35593698
I was planning to bulk on Deca, what else is a possible substitute (not tren)?
>>
>>35593691
http://www.ergo-log.com/decacycle.html
>>
Never done a cycle yet, but what is the best needle? I got a few 25g 1" lying around.

Also, is it true do quads injections hurt like hell?
>>
>>35593651
>dnp
> not very scary

literally 2/3 of all /dnp/ general is people figuring out how not to die from it
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>>35593719
>GSK discontinues research due to risk

Okay m8.

>>35593725
Dbol
>>
>>35593725
NPP. Same compound different ester.
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>>35593750
That's because people are stupid
They read it's good to cut with and buy a heap and start taking it then over react when they feel warm
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>>35593708
I don't know how anyone accidentally any dose though
Got caps
Got marks on syringes

>>35593750
Well that's pretty silly given it isn't very toxic in terms of poisons
Brick even did the math for us once and the average person would need to eat over a gram every day
>>
>>35593725
If your heart is set on nandrolone then go with npp not deca.

The best option for bulking is 50 drol 50dbol with some test prop.

What's wrong with tren?
>>
>>35593753
>Dbol

I was planning on 4 week kickstarter dbol alongside 600mg test C and 400mg Deca

Can I change deca with.. idk, Masteron?
>>
>>35593753
>This is mainly based on a study in which rodents who were subjected to GW developed cancer during the clinical trials, which is partially true. Though, the information these people tend to leave out is under what conditions were these rodents developed cancer during the study. This argument is either because they are repeating something they read online, or realized if they cited the actually study their argument would lose all validity. The study, that is so often referred to, subjected rats to supraphysiological dosages of 10mg/kg of body, or to put that in perspective, a 200lb man (roughly 90 kg) dosing around 900mgs of GW-501516 per day. These doses defy any sensible logic and, therefore, hold no standing at the suggested dosage of 20mg a day.
>>
>>35593785
See >>35593782
>>
>>35593782
>What's wrong with tren?
I just feel like that's a leap from deca, I'm not very experienced and tren is too hardcore
>>
>>35593753
>GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) has discontinued its research on an antibiotic co-developed by Anacor Pharmaceuticals after some patients were found to have built resistance to the drug.

it wasn't even because of the cancer faggot
>>
>>35593727
thank you, interesting read.. but makes me scared to do deca, I don't want to now lol
>>
>>35593820
No tren isn't a hardcore aas. It's just another compound. If you're ready for nandrolone you're ready for tren.
>>
What's better;

Tren Hexa or Tren Ace?
>>
>>35593878
Depends on how often you want to pin it and how much you want to pay
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>>35593869
Alright, what would you consider a "moderate" 2nd cycle? just dbol and test?
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>>35593820
Hardcore?

Just jab 400 a week if you are scared of it
You'll find pretty quick that it's awesome
>>
>>35593906
Dbol and test was my first cycle

Test dbol and tren was my second
>>
>>35593924
How are you going to escalate now, you've already done the most beneficial drug (tren)?
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>>35593800
Where are the lower dosage tests showing safety? Where is the "okay it's safe several orders of magnitude above your planned human dose, you can move onto human trials in phase II"?

LGD-4033 found toxicity in primates occurred at 75mg/day/kg but not lower doses, even obscenely higher than we use, they've moved onto human trials after satisfying safety.

Gw didn't satisfy safety iirc, where are the doses below showing safety? I haven't seen that.

If I remember correctly, ALL doses tested did it, and 5mg/kg was the lowest tested.

The cancerous dose actually comes close to normal human doses after conversion.

You didn't convert the dosage.

Which means a 72mg dose is the equivalent for a 90kg man, not 900mg.

>Tongue Cancer
>Thyroid Cancer
>Skin Cancer
>Testicular Cancer
>Stomach Cancer

and others.

This doesn't sound like it'd be unique to rats, like because of the digestive or urinary tract etc like it is with that particular artificial sweetener.

>Males were given 0, 5, 15 or 30 mg/kg/day for the first 6 weeks of the study.
For the remainder of the study males were given 0, 5, 20 or 40 mg/kg/day. Females
were given 0, 3, 10 or 20 mg/kg/day for the entire study. GW501516 produced test
article-related neoplastic findings in multiple tissues at all doses. Increased mortal-
ity was seen with females given GW501516 at all doses and uterine endometrial
adenocarcinoma contributed to death in a high proportion of these animals.

All doses. 5mg/kg and 3mg/kg. Lower doses weren't tested, but these are too close after conversion to the values you would use, that and you simply don't know at what dose the cancer doesn't occur.
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>>35593958
Adjust how much I use, try something different. Be on for longer. There are a lot of options

It's not like you use tren and that's it no more gains for you
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>>35593996
5mg in males and 3mg in females.

https://www.antidoping.ch/sites/default/files/downloads/2014/2009tox.pdf
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Any experiences with EQ? Effects - side effects?
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Rate this retarded cycle:

>600mg Test C w1-12
>50mg Dbol w1-6
>250mg Test C w12-24
>400mg Primo w12-24
>50mg Win w18-24

Thoughts? I basically want to bulk for 3 months, then cut and be ripped during summer.
If this is retarded, please explain why
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>>35593996
a..are you retarded?
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Wanna know what sucks about having a chest that looks like I survive the Chernobyl disaster?

I can't go to the beach to tan
Perfect fucking weather
The accutane means I burn quick as fuck
So 20 minutes in the sun makes me brown as zyzz

What's the point of lifting if I can't get tanned?
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>>35594090
Nice counter argument anon.
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>>35594137
Back yard? Quiet area at the beach? Swim?

There are ways. Plus no one will even think about your skin once you are put of sight. So pic related
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>>35594082
Primo is hard to find legit and expensive. You'd be better off with tren if you're into that. Realistically, you'd probably be too fat for winny coming off a 12 week bulk. Just my 2 cents.
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>>35594167
Obviously I just tan in the back yard but there's something about being able to go to the beach and chill which makes it better
Sadly there's no discreet part of the local beach because it's one esplanade mother fuckers everywhere unless I wanna go to a scum beach

I usually mow the lawn and weed shirtless
But it is a bit of a pain
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>>35594187
Price is not really an issue, but yeah ok. I might have to consider Tren..
Thanks!
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>>35594199
I do my yard work shirtless in stubbies. Got a good (for my pale skin) tan on my back, arms and back of my legs. The rest is still blindingly white
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>>35594225
Yeah I got a pair of them mint short running shorts
No clue what they're called
I just wear them when I go for a run or do yard work
Problem is its infrequent enough that most of my torso is pale
Not blinding
But pale

I dunno what it is about my stomach but it just wants to be white as hell
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>>35594289
I just don't have the patience to lay on my back for long enough to tan. It's my free time I would rather do something than just lay there
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>>35594369
Yeah that too
I dislike lying in one spot sweating my balls off and then hardly changed cour anyway
It's actually bliss just under the skin which helps you get a better tan
So really running round shirtless would get you tanned faster
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>>35594199
dont try to tan on accutane you dummy
get rid of acne, hop off tane, get rid of scars, then you can tan
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>>35594458
>>35594458
>>35594458
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