The Best of Wonder Woman

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Wonder Woman:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rwqrasp45cfsxu9/AACi5mhCeheYFvp-L9juE0t5a?dl=0

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Manhunter:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/95ow9oxuqmqpytj/AAATTNYTazO7dWeISh8_m1Mba?dl=0

If he didn't fuck up Batwoman so bad, I'd love to see Andreyko on Wonder Woman

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>>91788520
Same. Though I overall dug Batwoman, despite the problems

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IMO Andreyko, at least here in Manhunter, is kinda like Bendis done right. The decompression isn't a big deal when you're genuinely interested in the story, like a good TV show.

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If you haven't read the rest of Manhunter, some of the things here might leave you a bit lost. But this arc was also kind of designed to be a jumping on point, since the comic was at big risk of being cancelled.

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And at the end of the arc it WAS cancelled. So at least half of issue #30 is devoted to wrapping up the whole run. And most likely I'll only be posting the Wonder Woman-relevant pages of that issue.

>>91788603
>since the comic was at big risk of being cancelled.
Bless Didio for letting it being uncancelled twice

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>>91788652
I still love how Didio went from being the pariah of all cape comics to being beloved in just a couple years.

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Funny enough, Manhunter as a whole is basically the polar opposite of Wonder Woman, yet Andreyko totally captured her personality better than Rucka IMO, which makes an incredibly interesting dichotomy between her and Kate.

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Andreyko also wrote the brilliant Wonder Woman '77 which we will eventually be reading.

And the even more brilliant Wonder Woman '77 Meets Batman '66, which is everything I dreamed it would be and more.

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>>91788673
Wait, is that an Adam Hughes reference?

I want to get the Trinity absolute edition for my collection, should I just get "Wonder Woman by Azzarello and Chiang", absolute edition or wait for another story to get an absolute? Like Morrison's year one?

>>91788673
>last panel
Lewd

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>>91788788
Unfortunately I don't think she's gonna get many Absolutes. I'm sure Earth One will get one, so it's just up to you for which one you like more.

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That's some Texas music!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YFCw-RB1bE

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Oh shit, it's Shaggy Man! Oh wait...

>>91788827
> I'm sure Earth One will get one
Hopefully, I kind wonder though since I haven't read either year one or much of Azzarello's run (only first arc), if it's worth picking up. Or just waiting you know.
>Unfortunately I don't think she's gonna get many Absolutes.
Travesty, the fact that GL has 4 fucking Absolute editions but WW only has 1 so far.

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>>91788932
Her strength lies in her long runs more than OGNs. I guess if Johns GL can get Absolutes, maybe Rucka and Perez will, too.

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Mmmm, guilty ham sandwich...

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When I was a kid, me and my grandpa would play Monopoly, and he'd always go "DEY FROZE MY ASSES!" whenever he ran out of money.

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God rest his zombie bones.

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This reminds me, I gotta get up with Better Call Saul's new season.

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https://youtu.be/h0Jdrwfibss?t=85

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I can't even choose an Always Sunny clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V74Jd6cdfYw

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Diana should be used to paparazzi by now

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I love World According to Garp.

My torrent of the movie has been stuck at 99% for over a year so I'll probably never get to watch it

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Are you Justice Experienced?

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She looks a little older than five here, but I'm no pediatrician.

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>Had it not been for the laws of this land, I would have slaughtered you

>>91788803
Everything about that fight is lewd

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>>91789457
Kate's lesbian dom lewdness + Diana's bondage lewdness = ultra lewd

>>91789324
I guess I'm lucky, because my longest running torrent was Season 2 of Miami Vice which sat at 99.8% for three months

Hey Tex.

>Manhunter
Oh, Kate Spencer, you utter train wreck of a woman. I kinda love her. She is such a huge pain in the ass, but I can't stay mad at her because she's still fucking great even though she kinda sucks. She's like a more mature Max Caulfield pushed through a filter of Ally McBeal. And it somehow works.

Pairing her up with Diana was an inspired move, since this arc brings out the best in both of them while acknowledging their flaws.

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>>91789501
I've got a thing for extremely obscure spaghetti Westerns so I have quite a few that have been in limbo for months or years with zero seeders.

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>Kate Spencer
>Cameron Chase
>Sasha Bordeaux

It's like the trinity of stronk female characters from the mid-00's, all that's missing is Kate Kane, Maggie Sawyer, and Renee Montoya and we'd have ourselves a Justice League.

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Ain't these tears in my eyes tellin' you?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUltrX-ICew

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Remember when Britney Spears was relevant

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Absolute Madmen

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This reminds me of all the great little shops and Easter Eggs in Arkham Knight.

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The word is "t'weren't"

>>91789567
Speaking of Maggie, I miss back when she looked like a butch lesbian, now she's just generic comic book pretty and I for one do not care for that one bit.

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>>91789809
You'd think Bennett would be all over that.

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You know Batman does this shit on purpose. He probably gets a kick out of it.

>>91789824
Maggie is in Supergirl

Julia is being used for that instead

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>>91789873
Oh yeah. Supergirl disappointed me pretty early on, has it gotten any better?

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Sounds like some of my mornings in college.

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And not from parties. Do I seem like a party person to you?

>>91789809
We can't have butches anymore, cause people will whine about Tumblr and what not.

Well okay, to be "fair", it's also because a butch character theoretically requires drawing something other than a generic supermodel figure, and I'm pretty sure most artists would respond to such a request with a gunshot to their own head.

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>>91789972
Funny that probably both people would whine about Tumblr and "Tumblr" itself would whine.

>>91789972
Which is ironic since the guy who created her and gave her that original butch appearance was sameface artist extraordinaire, John Byrne.

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I wonder if members of Checkmate just carry suitcases full of chess sets everywhere.

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I like the idea that Diana knows it was the shittiest thing ever that she had to do, and that it's alarmingly uncharacteristic of her.

See, that's an interesting way to deal with having a character in a contrived situation like that.

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When people ask shitty questions like "if you had to choose between someone killing your mom or your dad, who would you choose?" I just don't answer, because that's a situation that 1) will never, ever actually happen and 2) is just not a choice at all.

That's how I see stuff like what Diana had to do. She would never do it, but was in a situation where she literally could not do anything else, and so just has to deal with that. And deals with the feelings by saying "I can't spend time regretting it, because I did what I had to do, and what anyone else would do".

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And while I feel this wasn't really represented well in the comics, it's how I justify the story.

Why does everyone look like they have jaundice in this comic?

>>91789994
Nah. While butch lesbians(especially butch lesbian cops) are a bit of a stereotype, it's not like they don't exist. Plus they tend to be portrayed as far less obnoxious than their male counterparts, the flaming gay guys that only really exist in movies. So overall, I doubt the "Tumblr" crowd would have a problem with her. Shit, she'd be supreme waifu material really.

>>91790018
Byrne made her? That's vaguely uncomfortable.

Then again, he also made Cassie, and that's very uncomfortable.

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>>91790106
>I won't destroy that for an easy win
And I don't know if that was an intentional dig/lampshade of my theory that the whole thing was DC saying "one of the trinity has to kill someone" and Diana was picked because Superman and Batman were just too famous.

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>>91790217
I think actually there could have been some influence from David Fincher in that choice.

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>>91790235
From my experience on Tumblr, the social justice cult hates literally everything. It's like a contest to see who can be the most offended.

It's almost literally mirror /co/. No matter what you do, they won't be happy.

Butch lesbian, that's a stereotype. Hot lesbian, that's a stereotype.

That's why you just ignore Tumblr and /co/ and Twitter and do what you feel is right.

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>>91790268
I can't remember what it was, but something I read recently you could literally see Superman's dick. Like, not just a big bulge like in this page. Just straight up you could see his entire dick under his pants.

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Sorry but at this point I think I'm just gonna be skipping the non-Wondie related pages, because it's gonna spoil the whole thing for anyone who hasn't read Manhunter before.

>>91790387
In a panel of Spider-Man Reign, you could actually see Peter's wrinkly old man balls. Marvel had to recall that issue.

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>>91790439
Ahahaha I remember that.

>>91790327
>That's why you just ignore Tumblr and /co/ and Twitter and do what you feel is right.
You're alright, Tex.

>>91790387
>"I recognize that bulge!"

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I feel you, Kate.

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>>91790532
A gay friend of mine once told me that bulge analysis is a very important science, and you have to get good enough at it to do it inconspicuously.

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Big finish!

>>91790533
I have to say, Deathstroke did the "riding a light lance" thing better in the last issue

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Kids love Wonder Woman! Todd McFarlane said they love chains, but clearly they love lassoes.

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>>91790611
>Batdad and Superdad are incredible
>tfw still no Wonder Mom
We are being denied the best of all possible parents here

>>91790588
I started catching up on Deathstroke yesterday morning, holy shit what a fucking incredibly comic.

>>91790533
>"Up, up, and awaaaaay!"
I like Kate, but I will never be able to take the rocket stick thing seriously. It feels almost deliberately out of place. Is that it? Is this actually comic relief, and I'm just being a joyless asshole?

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>>91790638
So much of Katehunter is lampshading superhero stuff that I gotta think they're aware of the flying stick being pretty funny.

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Unfortunately skipping naked Mark Shaw sword fight.

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This is amazing.

>>91790611
Only gay kids tho.

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https://youtu.be/WTWdP5DMdsM?t=506

>>91790611
>Heck, even I get a little "Helen" around her.
Everyone is gay for Diana.

>>91790632
I was just gonna bring that up, actually. Why the hell doesn't Diana have a daughter? We need a mainline iteration of Lyta.

Err, that is Lyta, Diana's alt universe kid known as Fury, not Circe's daughter Lyta, though she should come back too.

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>>91790828
I would love having Lyta so much. I'd also be cool with a Wonder Boy because the obviously interesting stuff they could do with a literal male Amazon.

We're a tad too early in Diana and Steve's rekindled love, though.

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It's actually pretty bizarre that Wonder Woman is the only member of the trinity not to get a kid, considering Batman and Superman tend to be stuck in status quo limbo and Wonder Woman tends to get more shakeups to attract readers.

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Absolutely 100% not guilty!!!

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Spoilers: they did not have a next issue.

That's all he wrote, thanks for reading on this fine, lovely, abnormally cold Texas Sunday, folks!

Next time we will continue with our previously scheduled Rucka issues.

>>91790881
>We're a tad too early in Diana and Steve's rekindled love, though
It also doesn't help that Rebirth has yet to elaborate on whether Diana is a golem or not, though we can assume she'd still give birth like normal considering her body functions like a human's anyway.

Regardless, the other alt-Trinities have been getting good sales and positive press, so it may only be a matter of time for Jon and Damien to get a third playmate.

Though odds are even on that being Lyta(because Johns), or Cassie pulling babysitting duty.

>>91790984
Thanks, mang.

>>91790909
I would love to see Diana have a kid but I have a feeling that it would not go over well with a lot of her fanbase. I want to believe but then I get flashbacks to the reactions of Wonder Woman Earth One and Jill Thompson's Wonder Woman comic.

>>91792228
>reactions of Wonder Woman Earth One
They were mostly positive from what I remember, with people throwing out little nitpicks here and there.

I dunno, I'm a huge Wondy fan, and I love to see her have a kid. And again, they wouldn't even need to make up a new character, just pull Lyta out of the junk drawer.

>>91792297
I could have sworn that the Earth One comic was getting a decent bit of bad rep, maybe it was just on CBR.

>>91792297
>>91792486
Naw you're not mistaken, it definitely got some hate thrown its way.

>>91792486
>>91792523
Not really sure why. It was a good story that had balls enough to actually explore the Amazon's culture without demonizing them.

And this is coming from someone who usually hates Morrison and his bullshit. For once he managed to knock it off with the meta shit and write an overall solid piece.

>>91792669
There was definitely some vocal disappointment.

I think it's because it was hyped by some as something that would be Wonder Woman's defining story. And as we know, a lot of people have this idea of what Wonder Woman is, and that doesn't line up with what she actually is.

Unlike with All-Star Superman which changed a lot of people's minds on what Superman should be, I think these folks read Earth One and went "well this isn't what Wonder Woman is supposed to be, it's just the same problem her other stories have".

It's telling that a lot of comics sites were speculating that Earth One would "replace the Azzarello/Chiang run as the definitive Wonder Woman story".

I read part of the Perez Wonder Woman trade today and now I regret not paying attention to this.

>>91792669
Okay so here are two reviews and I'm gonna be biased myself and say that I'm linking the first one mostly to show the problems some people had with the book on release and the second because I think it addresses a lot of that from another perspective, was more like what I took from the book (but the author has definitely done a more in-depth reading than I did) and gives very just and due credit to the art & design:

comicsalliance.com/morrison-paquette-wonder-woman-earth-one-review/

comicosity.com/review-wonder-woman-earth-one-hc/

I kinda want to talk about review/criticism sites here but that's definitely not related.

I'm personally definitely there for any continuing WW Earth One stuff and would be very interested in anything else from Jill Thompson moving on the storyline from The True Amazon too. Neither of those were fast books but they both went and pointed to interesting places, and I liked how Thompson's one felt like it was rolling in the vein of ancient Greek hero origins.

Thank you

>>91794596
I totally loved both and definitely wanna see more stuff like them.

I actually wish Rucka and Scott's Year One wasn't just part of Rebirth because it would have been killer if advertised and sold as a standalone.

>>91794509
That CA review surprised me by how in-depth it is, though it's kind of annoying how the author seems to criticize aspects of the book simply for not aligning with her own personal views of feminism. It's silly because the author even admits to being aware that the book is rooted specifically in the HISTORY of feminism, not in modern feminist views.

I notice with both of those reviews that the book seems to really draw out the personal views of both authors, going really, really in-depth not only with their interpretations of the book's themes and what they mean in the context of comics and Wonder Woman but also their own opinions on, well, everything feminist or sexual.

To that end, I think Earth One must have been a success, because possibly for the first time ever, Wonder Woman tapped into peoples' most basic feelings and emotions dealing with sex and gender dynamics, and forced them to face and work through them directly.

Getting that from a superhero comic in this day and age is absolutely insane.

>>91788520

I think everyone is entitled to a bad run.

>>91797682
Well the authors of both articles are trans women so that's probably not a new thing or brought on entirely by WWEO.

>>91798026
... Huh. Well that certainly complicates my interpretation.

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Man. As we know, being Vanessa is suffering. But I forgot just how rough shit got for her by the end of Perez's run.

When I get to storytiming the rest of the run, there's gonna be some feels, so prepare.

>>91788430
was Morrison's run for New 52 ever good? i heard him talking about it on Kevin Smith's podcast and i loved his Batman run.

>>91800417
I believe you're talking about Earth One, which yes, is good.

But keep in mind, it's not just a regular superhero comic. It explores really deep themes of femininity and sex going back to the inception of the character. It's heady even for a Morrison comic.

If you want something a big more traditional, check out Rucka's Year One for Rebirth.

>>91800487
i like all the crazy thematic esoteric bullshit Morrison does and that's what interested me about it when he was talking about it. thanks, i'll check it out.

>>91790909
Problem with her being a mom is she'd be too good at it. Where's the tension? The drama?

Maybe have her and Hippolyta or Phillipus clash on how she's being brought up. Diana wanting her to have a more normal (at least in man's world) life, Phillpus/Hippolyta grooming her to be an Amazon warrior, if not another candidate for Diana's title.

>>91801054
Not really related but on family IIRC Rucka's Year One plot was supposed to involve her having a brother called Jason. Did that ever happen?

>>91801120
Nope, I think some other anon said in the last Rucka thread that that was something they were planning all the way back in 2006 that got abandoned.

>>91801260
It was definitely in the press stuff for Rebirth.

>>91801284
Did some research and yeah, I totally forgot but it was revealed at the end of Darkseid War and was referenced in DCU Rebirth. However so far it hasn't been mentioned or foreshadowed at all in Wonder Woman.

So I dunno what they're gonna do with it. It's probably just a floating point future plotline like the three Jokers and Imra being in Batman.

>>91801472
Also I found an interview where Rucka said that Diana was indeed on Paradise Island for thousands of years, which is different from Perez where she was straight up just 18 years old and grew up normally, and was also the case in New 52 except that other Amazons aged normally and had children too.

I'm assuming that Diana lost her immortality when she left the island and now ages normally? But AFAIK that isn't really explicitly said.

I'm hoping Rucka's last issues have him dumping the new continuity on us so we know what the fuck is happening.

>>91801625
Did you see the supposed "Rebirth" leak from BleedingCool? Here is the Diana part:

As for Wonder Woman and Jonathan Carroll, their respective beaus during the New 52?
Never happened. Lois and Diana are said to be close friends their whole life. Diana delivered Jon. There is the sense that the two Supermans had their lives righted after uniting. The “wrong” history like Convergence or the Diana relationship are gone. They both returned to the other what was missing.

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>>91802153
I don't believe that leak at all, but honestly I'd be pretty disappointed if they just retcon it all away, even if I didn't like it.

Can't say I can think of a single good story that actually was about Superman and Diana's relationship and didn't just have it as kind of there. And I bought every single issue of Superman/Wonder Woman. Begrudgingly.

It'd be weird for them to throw it all out considering this page. Why would they even have bothered if they planned to retcon like 90% of the New 52 anyway? It just seems a tad extreme.

>>91801625
Sure. I mean, it'll only have been 26 issues...

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>>91788430

>>91802269
You are a weird motherfu*ker Texas Anon, I would never touch a Superman/Wonder woman comic as a self respecting Wonder woman fan and having trouble about them retconning it? I was positively delighted that they did well I guess to each their own.

>>91788430

Great legs
Great shape
Unfortunately Wonder Woman was drawing as an anorexic nowadays

>>91790611
At that age I was in love with Lynda Carter
I feel sorry for the Wonder Woman kids fans today

>>91808566
At the time I just wanted to support Wonder Woman.

It was like "alright, this is my second Wonder Woman book, I guess". I also bought Sensation Comics and Odyssey of the Amazons, though the latter was so bad I dropped it after one issue.

>>91788507
I forget if it was Manhunter or a.different female Superhero who basically said they had a girl crush on Wonder Woman.
I think it was during WW's big 100landmark issue before Flashpoint rebooted?

>>91809096
I think you mean #600, but the only thing like that I can think of is that Kate and... other Kate (Batwoman) asked her to go to a bar with them, and Montoya was too nervous to talk to her.

>>91808995
Is Odyssey the new one coming out now? That felt like a pitch that stumbled upon the Amazons more than anything else.

>>91809866
It is. It's about some Amazons going around getting into fights.

>>91809893
Yeah, but it feels like it could be about anyone going around getting into fights if that makes sense? Like OK they're Amazons and they keep tussling with these other mythologies but they could just as easily be Valkyries or something else, I think? That's part of the reason I feel the comic is bad.

>>91803323
Bumo

WonderBump

>>91818501

>>91816738

>>91801625
I was kinda hopeful for the Argonauts. F.

Fantastic Force >>91821573 Storytime.