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Who hasn't survived the Jedi purge at this point?
>guards were actually sent out of the temple on some contrived pretext and felt it was safe after both Dooku and Grievous being murdered
>only a handful of Jedi and younglings left to protect the Temple on Coruscant
>"Just as planned." - Sheev
Will we ever get a Sith with a deeper motivation than 'I wanna be evil because it makes my dick hard'?
I hope so. I'd love philosphical Sith who takes the creed and none of the other bullshit.
Someone who could actually sit in a room, talk with a Jedi, and not have that end in lightning or lost hands.
The Sith shouldn't HAVE to revolve around Fightin' Jedi or slaves and tortures and wooh Spooky
It's about freeing yourself through power born of strong emotions, not exactly an evil basis, just a selfish one, and not even that if you try to teach it to other people who might be in a rough spot.
Kishi loves Star Wars so it makes sense to find some similarities between the characters.
oh man, this wil kill the thread
Sabine drew a picture of one in her journal.
Hmm, Good question.
>Will we ever get a Sith with a deeper motivation than 'I wanna be evil because it makes my dick hard'?
No, probably not because evil gets them in the mood to be rock hard. Being evil and spreading misery and anger is how they accumulate more power from the universe and the Force itself.
What the hell is a Delphidian?
You can tell different stories without having to shoehorn characters from the movies and feature tonne of Jedi. That's what a good writer would do, which the Rebels team aren't.
All the cameos so far have been pretty good.
Ahsoka needed to confront Vader.
Bail leads the rebellion so he and Leia were bound to show up.
Lando was great. Vader showing up was almost a certainty.
The only one that didn't deserve to be in the show was R2 and 3po.
I'm iffy about Ypda, but I'll let it play out before I criticize it.
Palpatine declared the Jedi enemies of the Republic (and then Empire) and by extension, the Senate. That was the whole public point of Order 66: Accuse the Jedi of starting an uprising against the Senate so they could take over, giving him legal reason to wipe them out.
>RLM will never do a Clone Wars Half in the Bag episode
We don't know anything about these guys. They could be:
>surviving Jedi who retreated and are regrouping for a retaliatory strike on the Empire that ends up getting them all killed
>long lost Jedi inhabiting an ancient temple who were discovered by our MC Jedi heroes
>some kind of Jedi worshipping cult using Jedi shit they've discovered and maybe even the Church of the Force mentioned as operating during the time of the Empire and who are looking for someone with the real Force to worship/lead them
Or dozens and dozens and dozens of other possibilities. These guys are almost certainly doomed to die, so not really sure why you're freaking out. The EU did the same thing, usually with Vader curb stomping them. That may even happen here, we just don't know yet.
>But there aren't any Jedi in Rebels
Kanan, Ezra, Ahsoka (inb4 "HURRRRRR SHE ISN'T A JEDI") and now like 50 temple guards, plus whoever the fuck that spooky guy Ezra is talking to is.
>All the cameos so far have been pretty good.
No, they've been shoehorned and serve no purpose other than fanservice.
>Ahsoka needed to confront Vader.
Ahsoka didn't need to exist either but whatever.
>No, they've been shoehorned and serve no purpose other than fanservice.
Do you honestly think seeing one of the prominent creators of the Rebellion, and one of the future leaders of it prior to it existing is shoehorning them in? The whole fucking point of the show is the lead up to the Rebellion that destabilizes the Empire.
>Wahhh I don't like anything deviating from my own story
>wahhh they can never use characters well known from the movies in this children's CARTOON. Children should never get to see someone from the OT in their cartoon.
Listen to yourself.
Brom Titus, will we ever see him again?
I hope not
If there were countless Rebel cells, why have them join Jimmy Schmidt's cell? Other than Filoni trying to elevate his special snowflake OC characters of course.
>Letting a hack butcher some of the most iconic characters in cinematic history
They basically do actually.
If it's Maul, then that's worse since he clearly should have been Vader's primary target once the Jedi Order was destroyed. And a Vader vs. Maul comic series would have been way better than Rebels.
>I was really, really hoping someone would shoot at him and he'd stop the bolt, then send it back at them directly.
>Kylo Ren tricks all the Resistance to shoot at him at the same time
>grabs all their blaster bolts
>collects the bolts in a huge mass over his head
>shouts "SPIRIT BOMB!" and then hurls the collected mass of blaster fire like a death star beam the rips entire planets apart
now this is fanwanking!.jpg
>They basically do actually.
did you not read/watch/play anything outside of the movies?
>master luminara is dead and her skull is mummified
>Supreme Leader Snoop
Alright anon, it's not like Jedi and Sith are actually factions made and ran by force users but doesn't always relate to all force users or anything.
it's not like there can't be people who use the force who aren't exactly affiliated with them or anything
I think his agitation with it is a little exaggerated, but he's right. Yoda in particular seems out-of-place and fairly contrived, as does Maul's hilarious survival and Ahsoka in general (though she's been around for awhile now and that can't be helped; I just hope her confrontation with Vader isn't stupid).
But this is what happens when you have an unnecessary prequel cartoon. Much like with TCW, you'll end up with a lot of stuff that feels forced or awkward in the greater narrative for the sake of recognition or fanservice or something interesting. Does that make for high-quality storytelling? Usually not. But that's neither here nor there, and it's a little late now. It's not as if we really needed VII or even the prequels for that matter either, yet here we are. Most anyone can do is try to enjoy them for what they are.
>Snopes proves the Jedi are an urban legend
>Luke winks out of existence
>If there were countless Rebel cells, why have them join Jimmy Schmidt's cell? Other than Filoni trying to elevate his special snowflake OC characters of course.
Do you think Bail, Mothma and Ackbar just woke up one day and decided "Rebel Alliance here we go" with no preparation for it? They had to work quietly under the radar with their own cells, at first, which don't get very far for sticking it to the Empire. Hera's entire character is about starting a cell and bringing others together because more heads are better than just a few. Ghost crew is on it's own as a cell until they find Bail one day and ally with him for support.
I bet you will cry if we see Ackbar or Mothma at some point in Rebels, because how dare they show up and attempt cohesion in rebel cells?
Oh fuck really? it's her mummified corpse? I thought it was just her head. Was she astral projecting or was it just a imperial hologram?
Also is the imperial inquisitor force sensitive and does the Emperor know about them or is it Vader's side project?
Bariss was no longer a padawan by then, Luminara had her knighted and thought she was ready. However, Luminara was obviously a bad teacher and it was stated somewhere that she basically stopped talking to Bariss after their time as Master and student was up so Bariss resented her for it.
>he clearly should have been
Explain how he clearly should have been Vader's target, then. Sidious already fucked with him enough that he is no real threat to anyone but himself. The Empire creates the damn Inquisitor program, of which Maul would fit right into, and yet you aren't upset about them existing alongside Maul while he is in hiding.
That's a running gag for the Jedi at this point.
Yoda's Padawan Dooku falls.
Kit Fisto's ex-Padawan turns out to be Leeroy Jenkins and gets Grievoused.
Ventress fell after her Jedi Master died while forgetting to tell the Council she existed.
Despite Obi-Wan's best efforts Anakin turned out to be a twat.
Anakin's Padawan broke his heart.
One of Luke's students betrayed his Order and got them all killed.
>Letting a hack butcher some of the most iconic characters in cinematic history
>trained under Darth Lucas
>crafted some of the best Star Wars moments since the OT
Hologram; were you not paying attention? There's also a scene where Sidious directly tells Vader "Dispatch Inquisitors [...]" so he obviously knows that they are an organization within his Empire.
>Was she astral projecting or was it just a imperial hologram?
I it was a hologram of her being led to her execution and the Grand Inquisitor(The Pau'an one) killed her himself.
>Emperor know about them or is it Vader's side project?
He probably knows, Vader can't really hide those agents himself.
Hologram to fuck with whichever Jedi falls for the trap in trying to rescue her. Her corpse is only preserved as it contains, somehow, her Force signature. It's like how they can leave imprints on objects or locations, well her body contains her residual presence. Enough to fool people with Force powers that she's really there.
>Maul and Savage
Were rivals attempting to undermine Sidious' absolute authority.
was getting powerful enough to take on the likes of Anakin, Dooku or Obi-wan. A clear and present threat to his power.
The inquisitors are not because their training is kept purposefully limited to keep them weak and manageable for him.
I suppose in anon's defense Savage was an Apprentice who tried to kill Dooku but I wouldn't count it because he was Talzin's weird trojan horse semi-mind controlled ... thing. Artificially imbued Force sensitive with anger issues who frustrated easily.
Palpatine immediately moved on to corrupting Dooku after Maul was cut in half. He wouldn't have accepted Maul back into his apprenticeship, since he showed very miserable performance against their sworn enemy, despite killing Qui-Gon.
>kill Maul and Savage and wanted Dooku to get rid of Asajj
All of them learned too much and became rivals to his strength. The Inquisitors have their knowledge controlled and curtailed by Vader and Sheev, they are barely trained and only know the basics of Force powers.
Inquisitors are like Paramedics, while Sith, like Vader and Palpatine, are fully trained doctors that went through years of medical school, there is a huge difference between them and their skill level.
He is still doing that. Or other Strong-arm missions for the Emperor. Inquisitors are the foxhounds, searching Jedi out and then, if they can't kill themselves, call in the hunter, Vader.
He's overseeing the Empire, making sure that it stays functioning. That's a bigger, more important goal than hunting down some magic monks that are too afraid to use their powers in front of people.
Any ideas why Disney is pushing KOTOR shit? Do they plan on reviving and canonizing the franchise with a film or remake?
>Taris mentioned in three canon sources
>"There's sometimes truth to legends" before cutting to a shot with a hammerhead ship
Since this stuff is appearing in so much media (movies, show, comic, books, background materials) I doubt it is just the work of some lone gunman fans up at Lucasfilm.
I think Disney's smart enough to know that KOTOR is both a valuable story-telling and money-making device because of its distance from the movies and Skywalkers, as well as the fact that it has a sizable, vocal following of fans that pay attention to it.
>Any ideas why Disney is pushing KOTOR shit? Do they plan on reviving and canonizing the franchise with a film or remake?
We don't know what their plans for it are. We will just have to wait until they announce something.
>Any ideas why Disney is pushing KOTOR shit?
They're not, Filoni and the LSG just liked KoTOR, and are canonizing what they liked, provided it makes sense.
They may make entire movies/games/comic/books in that era eventually, but I highly, HIGHLY doubt anything is in the works right now. They're just references and cameos from people who love Star Wars.
>I doubt it is just the work of some lone gunman fans up at Lucasfilm.
It basically is. A lot of people working on stuff (including members of LSG) are fans of KOTOR and they like incorporating pieces of it. Half of the stuff in your image is traceable directly to Pablo Hidalgo, for example. That's it.
No chance, they can't make the games canon without making a dozen other things canon that don't work with the new. It's just a case of them liking the look of KotOR's ships, weapons, characters, etc and grabbing some of those little details to use again. Revan and all the rest of the story is gone.
The EU gave Jedi lightsabers of pretty much any color. It wasn't until AOTC that Lucas decided Jedi should have green or blue lightsabers, with rare exceptions (Windu has a purple one per Jackson's request, because he wanted to be able to pick himself out in the crowd).
>Asking /swg/ if it would date aliens
You should know the answer to that question.
How in the hell did he get the job of writing canon Star Wars books?
It does though because of all the bullshit KotOR 2 pulled with Revan that led to TOR. And all the retarded power level, "MUH WOUND IN THE FORCE" GARBAGE. Also, KotOR 1 has Yuuzhan Vong references in it.
according to the wookieepedia all he did was tweet this
I'd love it if they bring inter dimensional plots into this.
the Luke we find in ep VIII's ending is actually GrandMaster Luke from Legends who finds himself displaced after he 'died' on his dimension
As a lesson on what happens when you resist, reminding them of the Death Star is probably not the wisest movie. I mean I'm sure you wet yourself while Vader is there but hours or maybe days later you remember about those pesky dudes on Yavin 4...
>Wendig was hired to write Aftermath after posting a tweet saying he wanted to write for Star Wars. In the tweet, on September 4, 2014, Wendig wrote: "Dear Internet: I wanna write a licensed STAR WARS novel. Please make this happen. *squeezes Internet hard enough to make wishes fall out*" The request was successful, and Aftermath was released exactly one year after the tweet, on September 4, 2015.
He wrote Blackbirds and Under the Empyrean Sky.
both of those books were ok sci-fi books. i have no idea why he suddenly turned into such a terrible writer. his star wars book reads like fanction that i wrote when i was 13 and thought fight club was the pinnacle of literary achievement.
it reads like a highschooler's fanfiction, jesus christ
>autistic as fuck
I wouldn't call his writing autistic, even though I know that's been 4chan's favorite all-purpose insult for quite some time.
It IS however indicative of someone who took a single beginning level creative writing course at a community college, then dropped out after the first few months while shouting, "This shit is easy! I'll make all the money!"
I don't own book capped from amazon sample
It introduces the SSD that we see Rey flying through in the Falcon in TFA. It also introduces the start of the political change in the galaxy that leads into TFA. The next two books will probably go over the Battle of Jakku, formal end of the Empire and start of the New Republic.
Sorry anon, but his books are going to be the most important to the new canon, no matter how awful they are written.
>will post Wendig's acknowledgements
You mean this?
That beverage Luke Drinks in the homestead.
In this instance, Wendig is being tryhard as fuck.
You should have seen the tirade wheb his books were being rightfully called shit. He blamed homophobia instead of acknowledging his mistakes like a grown up.
I did read Lost Stars, and you are an idiot for thinking that would be the only time we ever see the Battle of Jakku. Sloane having the last SSD in her command was a big fucking point of Aftermath, and yet in Battlefront we can see it crashing down, and we see it's remains in TFA. Try as hard as you want to think the Aftermath trilogy won't be important, but it will be.
George had no problem with Revan showing up in the Mortis Arc, what ultimately led to him and Bane being cut is that George didn't want any implication, even on something that could be passed off as a massive Force vision, as suggesting Sith spirits can manifest consciousness after death.
>Star Wars fan
>doesn't know what blue milk is
It wasn't exactly all that blue if that makes you feel any better.
You're not listening. Bane is still canon (though not the books or comics) because George Lucas created him. Revan is not. Revan was going to be in TCW BEFORE they wiped canon so Lucas was ok with it, but now that he and KotOR are not canon he wouldn't appear in Rebels like Bane could. This isn't that difficult to understand.
And? I have a problem with his characters and the way it's written, the background information is already being set in stone by other factors as well. This isn't like the old EU where something like the Vong will taint the whole canon. He's a one and done, books will be forgotten in time but the info will be repeated in better mediums.
new guns. They shifted around a bunch of things on in to make it look like it's been traded around and modified over at least a decade, if not the full 30 or so years since RotJ.
The canon wipe was after Lucas left so his opinion on the matter doesn't really matter, savvy?
Nobody is saying he is canon, beyond the people who keep crowing that KOTOR and TOR are canon anyway, but there are no apparent obstacles to using Revan if Filoni so chooses and can find a way to work him into the plot.
After all, Big Daddy Lucas was okay with the character in principal.
Or Twi'lek. You'd think with Cham on board there'd be more of them in the Alliance. Especially since they are also playable in Battlefront now, so even casuals know them.
I wonder who Mads Mikkelsen will play.
Bane is still canon because he was finally used in TCWs. Things Lucas thought up (fortunately) don't always wind up in canon. He's infamous for changing his mind. Rather like how Bane's appearance changed for his final appearance although his original aborted appearance in the Mortis Arc looked closer to the EU version. Things like Bane's lightsaber pike are not firmly established as canon as they only made it into the concept art. They were approved, but didn't actually make an appearance.
You'd be better off pointing out that even if Filoni manages to insert Revan into canon that wouldn't automatically validate KOTOR or TOR, it would only mean that Revan existed. Only what they actually put into the episode about him would be canon. Everything else would still be legends unless directly referenced.
This. They all also seem to have terminal brain cancer because they are still unable, after practically 2 years, to comprehend what is and isn't canon. It's just retarded, we should not still be forced to have the same damn conversation about how KotOR and Revan aren't canon with these people. Even in this very fucking thread it continues!
With how prosthetics are nowadays, realistic aliens shouldn't be that hard for Lucasfilm to create, look at the Face-Off television series from Sy-FY, they deal with making creatures of all types from only realistic makeup, and they use amateurs in the competitive game show.
>You'd be better off pointing out that even if Filoni manages to insert Revan into canon that wouldn't automatically validate KOTOR or TOR, it would only mean that Revan existed. Only what they actually put into the episode about him would be canon. Everything else would still be legends unless directly referenced.
Which makes sense. It's been 4000+ years by then. Shit gets kinda muddled over that timeframe unless there was always someone of Maz's race around to write that shit down and pass on in great detail.
>Geonosian Death Star plans
Hm, interesting connection if it pans out. I remember people were thinking the Empire's primary reason for genociding them was to eliminate any potential loose ends for the Death Star, but they also had those weird mine control worms, their droid factories, and their generally impressive knack for tech where weapons systems come in.
The Revan hate came about after fans rapidly hyped his importance to the franchise, having him go from your standard galaxy-saving PC to "ohmygod the most powerful Jedi/Sith who has ever lived, the real chosen one, the Sith'ari, perfect in every way", etc. I like Revan plenty, but his fanboys poisoned him for me.
And that's why they'll never do it because there's no way to separate those things. The minute they go "Here's Darth Revan" all anyone clamoring for that character to return will hear is "KotOR games are 100% canon" and there will be nothing Lucasfilm can do to get them to listen if they were to say the character is completely different or the events if the game didn't happen. It doesn't work. More than anything, Revan was a cipher for the player to experience the game, not an actual character and therefore he can never return. They are better off just making up some new characters.
>empire is incredibility xenophobic
No it isn't. Policy-wise, the Empire doesn't care who is in it's ranks as long as they are loyal, but the Empire isn't short of xenophobes though.
>The Empire isn't Xenophobic but it's #1 with Xenophobes.
im with you there anon. i loved Revan's story in the first KOTOR game, but since then all the fanboys just hype him up for no reason.
then you get the edgy teens who like him because he has a mask and dual lightsabers. i always ask people who champion him why they like him and can never get an answer that isn't "hes powerful and cool"
>Maz's people become Guinan's race
Eh... I don't know. Never was much of a fan of the El-Aurians. Now if we could get Malcolm McDowell in Star Wars, that I wouldn't mind. Or Morgan Shepherd. Or his son.
>And that's why they'll never do it because there's no way to separate those things.
They do that all the time. Hell, we're getting that with Hammerhead ships showing up in Rebels.
They're really good at tuning out the vocal minority. Sometimes I think they make changes just to fuck with people. Cue Moraband.
It's funny how even in the old canon people insisted that Palpatine hates aliens, yet his master was a Muun, his first apprentice was a Zabrak, and his best friend and most trusted advisor Mas Amedda is a Chagrian. It makes no sense to think that. And even now, despite the fact that we don't know if Plagueis was a Muun, the other two remain true.
Both books came out on the same day. It's impossible to say which one introduced it first, I will give you that. But you can't deny that it is more important to Aftermath Trilogy than it is to Lost Stars.
I can't wait for Disney to either say Revan won't and never will be canon or re purpose him into a completely different character with a new name.
how many molten assholes would that cause.
The hates aliens thing was from way back in the Thrawn Trilogy when there was next to no information on Palpatine (or Coruscant) so Zahn had to wing shit. Case in point: Coruscant being described with having mountains in the first book.
Taking and reusing a ship design is nowhere even remotely close to reintroducing a character. The ships just look neat and are a nice nod to the past for fans, nothing more. Adding a character named Darth Revan literally creates an expectation and the fans will not hear anything different. Also, as I said, Revan was a cipher. His character was whatever you wanted him to be while playing based on your choices. There is no way to bring him back, it does not work.
those are not KOTOR ships they are Thranta Class Cruisers. from SWTOR, the MMO
lower one is a Hammerhead Frigate/Cruiser, from Kotor 1&2
>Taking and reusing a ship design is nowhere even remotely close to reintroducing a character.
You are really underestimating the people who shout, "X IS CANON NOW!" just bust because Y shows up in a show or comic or novel.
>There is no way to bring him back, it does not work.
Sure there is, they could easily just mention the accomplishments he did regardless of the player's actual choices. Not that it's important that he actually is brought back or not, but it's not impossible.
Thank the Maker is better than 99% of Disney Wars EU
Probably because there is no EU anymore. Old EU is Legends. New material is One Unified Canon to Rule them All.
Leeland Chee felt a great dark shadow lift from his life the day this happened.
You know the whole reason the empire made the death star was because they couldn't enforce their will through the entire galaxy? Hence Tarkin's "rule through the fear of force, rather than force itself". By having the ability to obliterate an entire planet, they could force the galaxy to submit to their will without having to actually occupy them.
Fear still carried on even though the Death Star didn't. Alliance High Command was scared shitless when they stumbled upon the second Death Star's build site above Endor. They were so afraid that they had to immediately throw all of the rebel forces they could muster on short notice at it in vague hopes to remove it.
Yeah, it's nice how a Ford has always looked like a Ford, huh?
The hammerhead is so damn sexy, I love that orange and white color scheme. Fuck space Doritos.
Just as many, if not more Jedi survived in the old EU. Why is it suddenly terrible now? If it was always bad, why was it not worth getting upset about before, but it is now?
If no one answers these, we can only assume there is no concise response to be had beyond "muh eu".
I challenge the anon's of /swr/, why is this cognitive dissonance a thing?
Just the opposite. Lucas tried to get pretty much anyone he could to come in and filter his ideas, but they just kept telling him "Oh, no, George you're a visionary, you can do this on your own!"
Tarkin's plan failed because the Empire wasted valuable resources and personnel when the Death Star went up in flames as well as not keeping the Galaxy in line. The Empire put too much faith in a single egg, two exactly, and the Empire failed to get rid of the Rebellion and made the rest of the Galaxy even more sympathetic to their cause by destroying Alderaan.
KOTOR and TOR have the worst art design of anything star wars, mostly because of the implied stagnation which is shit. Apparently, making stuff look distinctive is too hard. Better make ships that look like star destroyers and corellian corvettes. Let's toss in some not-a-wings and not-destroyer droids while we are at it and a not-millenium falcon too!.
>implying anyone questioned George
That was the problem. Nobody did, everyone assumed he had it in the bag because he was known as the genius that gave the world Star Wars, were too intimidated to challenge him due to his status, or were just in it to ride the merchandise gravy train and couldn't have given a shit either way.
Because the old EU was a "take it or leave" buffet of cool things to connect to the movies. now there is only CANON and not.
Fuck you, the Harrower is a delicious ship and Sheev even threw props about it in The Book of Sith (when it was canon) as how it inspired the design for the ISDs (which ended up being twice the size of the Harrower).
Which is stupid as fuck.
>Starship design completely changes in a few decades within the movie-verse
>EU implies the same designs can stay relevant for hundreds of years
Fuck EU writers and their garbage.
I thought the Interdictor style was neat. Just would've been nice if it took hundreds of them to destroy Taris, instead of the Leviathan looking like it could take on an ISD from 4000 years later.
i think some people did, and when they lost their job they had to sign NDA's or whatnot and cant say anything.
I mean if i was one of the artists or VFX guys i would tell George when he's going overboard, the guy may have made star wars, but that doesnt mean he can be wrong [which he was]
I remember at the TFA premiere, Frank Marshall went up to Lucas and teased him about Jurassic World being the top movie of the year and Lucas fired back. People actually went "omg lucas lost his temper on that guy what a fucking pathetic autist cuck" without realizing the two were friends trading jabs.
No one cared who I was until I put on the mask
>>Starship design completely changes in a few decades within the movie-verse
Apart from the design skip between eps VI and VII, what are you referring to? The ISDs changed size but the shapes remained the same; the Rebel fleet was a hodgepodge of crap. Fighter designs changed wildly for the Rebels but not so much the Empire.
I think he's the exception that proves the rule, since even when he told him, Goerge still carried on with that shit.
There's a funny part in the Blu-ray commentary on Episode II where two VFX guys are talking about an error in the background matte during the scene where Anakin tells Padme he has to go back to Tatooine - one of them says something along the lines of "We kept that to ourselves, but I guess we can tell you now since he can't make us go back and change it," just for the other guy to reply "That's what you think," and they share a laugh.
And Ben is based.
>mfw Maul gets a cameo in Episode VIII
He's a great sound editor, but as a film editor he's always been kind of meh.
Also Burtt would always try to push sound effects over music. He's the reason the asteroid battle in AOTC has no music at all until the very end, he wanted the sound effects to do the work. It works at the beginning, when you have the seismic charges, but after that the lack of music starts to drag the scene down.
Yeah because their earliest cars totally had that.
Don't forget the retarded ones where the whole front end of the car is a door.
You know what would be better? If they just stole all designs for KOTOR, made a new story with their babby revan and set it all in a different era (say, a few hundred years before episode 1)
i think if more people actually talked up and agreed with people like Burtt George might have listened.
then again it probably would have had to of gone through that Lucas dick sucker Rick Mcallum before going to lucas.
>George when he's going overboard
Only people who don't understand the business or Lucas say this. You can count on fans who have never set foot in a studio to say shit like this. People assumed he had it in the bag and the entire reason Star Wars was successful was because Lucas pushed the shit out of technology. The problem is people got too ambitious.
>lost their job
Lucasfilm isn't Disney. If this were true Filoni and half the TCW team would've been terminated.
Yeah. Even if you don't recognize that guy, it should be pretty clear the two are just joking around. Some people are just so fixated on the idea of Lucas as this horrible humorless tyrant that they couldn't even see that.
That'd be fine. Could even put it right before Bane makes the Sith disappear.
>KOTOR happens 1100 years before the movies, basically the same plot, star forge, fight Malak, bang Bastila, etc.
>Sith Empire collapses, some band together in what eventually becomes the Brotherhood of Darkness, then KOTOR II happens and the Jedi start going extinct.
>Exile rebuilds Jedi, Republic slowly gets back on its feet, Brotherhood of Darkness shows up, reenacts SWTOR with a better story, until eventually the Jedi prevail, Bane lets the Brotherhood destroy itself, goes into the shadows and trains Zannah and starts the Rule of Two, Republic is either founded for the very first time or refounded into what we see a thousand years later in time for the prequels.
Why the fucksalt has disney NOT given these guys millions of dollars for a KOTOR era movie yet?!!?!?!?
>this show will never go full bad end with Ezra going full darkside with Darth Maul as his master
>the reason the crew isn't in the OT is because they all went their own way after they lost Ezra
>if phasma survives she'll inevitably do just as much fucking nothing as she did in TFA because DUDE MEMES LMAO
I just started the show. I just got to SPINNING.
How many more memes are going to show up in this show?
Well that's fucking stupid.
You might as well have had nothing but headcanon.
Oh wait now I get why so many eu fans are autists. It's not an issue of the stories being autist friendly, far from it, it's that the whole shebang was a headcanon buffet, which encourages fanfic mentalities and feelings of ownership which breeds entitlement, all of which is the signature of the Internet autistics. I've cracked the code /swr/, I fucking cracked it. Just in time for This Is Madness in a month, too.
yes and no,
KOTOR had a place in lore and logical Ship designs since all of their ships were designed and built by Republic Manufacturers, (Kuat DY, Corellian, MC and so on) but TOR fucked it up with the Sith ships, since they looked exactly like Kuat designs while being designed by an Isolated Empire's shipyard.
which would be a retarded explanation, Palpatine was not the lead designer of the Kuat Drive Yards.
Despite being complete shit in a lot of ways, the Prequel Trilogy still added a lot of consistency to the Ship history of Star Wars, with explaining that the Wedge Shape is a Kuat Drive Yard due to maximal forward facing firepower, it's a useful design, and makes sense if one manufacturer specialized on that design, hell even in the EU Kuat was building ships for the new republic following their base ship designs.
that's consistency in a universe, however, Bioware fucked that up with shoehorning the Harrower class in, which defies any consistency.
which also leaves the question why the fuck Kuat would build ships for the First Order in TFA, but I guess nothing matters anymore in TFA canon, it's all over the fucking place.
Just have to remove one stumbling block.
I don't get why people are upset about the Temple Guards.
1) There's plenty of Temples, even ones secret or lesser known, like the one on Lothal. The Temple Guards would be very highly trained, and no doubt likely to survive the initial purge
2) The Temple Guards we see in the trailer may not all be Guards, but perhaps a bunch of Jedi who have simply taken up the mantle for whatever the fuck spiritual reason.
3) My own personal prediction; They're just part of the vision. I suspect Ezra talking to Yoda and Maul are also visions and won't have any impact outside of the 1-2 episodes set in the Sith Temple. Meanwhile Kanan will talk to the Guardians, and Ahsoka faces a vision of Vader.
It's all gonna' be vision shit, thats my prediction.
The entire trailer gave off ethereal vibes.
My bonus prediction, one that I definitely didn't come up with by myself, but I think what we speculated on a few threads back about the connection to the Inquisitor, may come into play.
>stop liking what i dont like
>Temple Guards are a vision
People have said this before, but you forget that we also see the Inquisitors fight them. Unless they're somehow also involved in the vision, it's a safer assumption that the guards are actually physically real.
Question for the "rebels is ruining muh OT story cause they're doing too much stuff thus undermining Luke and co" people, how would you have wanted this series to go?
They just stay strictly small time and do nothing but interact with no name characters no one cares about? Do you realize that would be a shit show?
From a story telling perspective that would be awful, this is the shows chance to finally git gud. Stop being mad.
Finish reading, dingaling. There are autists in any fandom, but the old eu has a pretty fucking good amount even by those standards. It's not because I think it's shit therefore: only autists like it. It's that fucking organization of "pick your headcanon". I loved the Jedi knight dark forces series, republic commando and battlefront were the fucking best, all still fun too. But you can't deny there are a fucking gigaton of autistic fanboys who "reeee" everytime something even slightly goes against their taste. Surely you know what deviantart and Wookiepedia are?
It makes sense to me. The military generally stagnates during times of peace after all. Being relevant for hundreds of years kind of stretches my suspension of disbelief I admit, but then again lightsabers have changed little in thousands of years.
I wanna make WebMs for you faggots. What's generally a good resolution for the WebMs here?
He says, "I may have gone too far in places" then they break down the problems with the team. It's pretty clear with TPM they incorporated many ideas and tried to work through them all but the story still works.
And only TPM has these issues.
Why does everyone forget that the ship design in the actual KOTOR comics were some insane shit and not the generic OT designs the game chose?
Pic related made me tear up. Am I a faggot?
Do you get upset when every single 40K novel doesn't involve somebody 'important' like Calgar or Dante?
Maybe a bad example since 40K isn't nearly libcuck-friendly for /co/ but the point is the same, you have a huge fucking vast universe populated by all manner of characters and your fruitfly brain loses interest when one of the established """important""" characters aren't around.
>no name characters no one cares about?
How about they make characters that people care about, instead of shoehorning TCW/OT characters for an episode, use the quirk the character has and then call it a day?
You have new characters, use them. At this point Rebels has become The Clone Wars/OT show with some Rebels cast dispersed in-between. We have Commander Sato, who the hell is he? What's he fighting for? We don't know who he is, even though he's a Rebel Cell Commander. We have A-wing pilots that have some unique designs, but they have gone nowhere and we have no idea who they are as well. You mean to tell me Filoni and the other writers can't make some episodes that revolve around a rag tag team of rebel pilots? I highly doubt that.
We only have Konstantine, Titus, Kallus for the Imperial cast, what are they up to? What motivations do we have for them? I think Yogar is still alive after the Tarkening.
Yeah and that. Aresko, Grint ,Inquisitor and Tua were killed even though old scripts for them had them live. We could have gotten some stories out of them before they bit the dust later on, but no, let's just kill a handful of characters so a couple OT characters look all badass.
Rebels had a plethora of characters, but instead of using them and seeing the world through their eyes the creators have shelved them for TCW/OT characters, characters we already know about with the books, comics and other media released for them.
Forgive some people for wanting to see some new characters in a NEW show, but that's how some of them feel.
Oh lawdy speak of the devil.
Hail, Darth Edgeaze.
>AOTC is just a bad as TPM
From a film making standpoint? No. AOTC is simple and straight to the point. We jump right into the story. TPM felt like it was trying to cover too much ground in a short amount of time. It feels bloated compared to ROTS and AOTC
>he added shit like this because it was funny"
I never understood this complaint about the 3P0 battle droid. It's basically ROTJ and ESB scenes plastered together. It's even visually similar.
>The kids don't know who those characters are
this would be good if it actually made sense. that first paragraph doesn't even happen that way in the movie. 1/10 cuz i replied.
I'm not denying that but I'm just setting things straight here, if you saw the KOTOR ships alongside the ships from the OT you could clearly see how centuries have passed between them, unlike the games
The entire Horus Heresy novel series is as unnecessary as the Prequels. They even suffer the same problems, where the big bad went wrong because he was a whiny brat and his father figure was an idiot. In fact everyone is an idiot for plot convenience. Did Lucas co-write those books?
>The "show shouldn't exist" people are stupid though.
Yeah, that is retarded. I enjoy the show, but I just wish Rebels had new characters on both sides would get some spotlight instead of characters that are already known. That's all I want.
memes are the lowest form of entertainment now go start a bane thread I know you want to.
Protosabers are the shit. I'd love it they showed one on the wall of that dojo in Rebels.
Its true that the rebels cast has little depth and they should rectify that but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't excited for more Vader.
New characters are good only if they get development, otherwise give me the people I already care about. This was one of the problems with the PT, they add new people like Maul and and Qui Gon while doing little to make us care about them and giving us very little new information about characters we already love like Yoda.
HH is shit true but that isn't the point I'm making, those novels illuminate a specific event in the setting's history that concern those characters. They don't introduce new characters who run into 'important' characters out of nowhere on a consistent basis in a really forced manner. It's like if they had an Imperial Guard novel where out of nowhere they run into Grimaldus or somebody else of significance just to make the story suddenly seem "important".
the protosabers where first created in the 80s
>Its true that the rebels cast has little depth and they should rectify that but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't excited for more Vader.
I'm excited for Vader too, but yeah, the Rebels characters do need some more development. The mid-season trailer looked nice, but I'm holding my breath, I know better than to get too overhyped with a trailer.
Is she saying DAAARTH or NOOO or DEAAARGH?
I just heard a scream, which makes me hopeful for the Ahsoka suffering to come
There are important characters like Creed, and the Chapter Masters, certain Inquisitors, etc. The thing is that unless the story specifically focuses on them there's no need to jam them into plots they have little to nothing to do with.
>Is ANYONE in 40K 'important' though beyond The Emperor and Abaddon?
Most of the special characters are considered 'important', like Ragnar Blackmane, Commissar Yarrick and the like.
All I want is for them to be together again but it'll never happen.
>There's literally, figuratively, and conceptually nothing wrong with making love to your daughteru.
If possible, please never procreate and kill yourself.
>There's literally, figuratively, and conceptually nothing wrong with making love to your daughteru
YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE CHOSEN ONE /a/!