Cute girl edition
>Rebels Mid-Season Trailer
>New Rebels Clip: (Princess Leia CONFIRMED, New Episode Airs January 20th)
>Star Wars Canon Guide:
>Download links: (Books, Comics, Rebels, Films, etc)
>Newest Rebels Recon Episode:
>The Clone Wars Legacy Content:
Old bread http://boards.4chan.org/co/thread/79023352/
I fucked up the links lmao
Anyway. Will Ezra turn to the Dark Side or will it turn out to be a dream?
I think he will turn and hurt someone in the Rebels crew. Kanan? Zeb?
It depends on his character, and as we've seen, and if his rudeness to Leia is an indication, [spoilers]he might stay that way
>'Ahsoka, why did you leave?'
>'Did you know... what I've become?'
Don't kill her, Vader.
>>'Did you know... what I've become?'
Fucking chills everywhere
New update on the Databank:
"The Z-6 Jetpack was the preferred jetpack of Mandalorian commandos across the galaxy, from the more organized sects like Death Watch to the outliers on the fringe, like Jango Fett and Boba Fett."
Jango and Boba are Mandalorians again. Now everyone can stop worrying. And by "everyone", I mean no one.
Captain Rex is going to die in this series. His era has come and gone, and its time to pass the torch on to the next generation of soldiers.
The new trailer looks awesome. Hopefully it won't be like Season 2a were all of the good stuff from the trailer was in the first three episodes. Season 2 has been nothing but disappointing since after the two part Clone episode
What race is the new Inquisitorius?
I think he looks like either a Fosh or Kaleesh
Trandoshan is my bet.
Against what Lucas/Filoni said, and what Pablo tweeted just weeks ago? Nah, just seems like someone overlooked poor wording.
For one thing, Jango and Boba aren't Mandalorian commandos, a commando is a special forces soldier. The Fett's aren't in any kind of military group, they're just Bounty Hunters.
I'll fess up and admit I am wrong if the upcoming Concord Dawn episode changes anything though, but I am honestly not holding my breath.
I bet the Wook is using this is absolute concrete proof though, huh?
Snoke could be human who got deformed by meddling with the dark side.
I'm not sure if this is true or just speculation by fans but is it true that use of the dark side causes deformities?
I'm not saying Erza is Snoke but it's interesting to speculate about his identity.
>>"For anybody in Star Wars, I think one of the questions you’re going to get asked is 'Is that Snoke?' It's one of the mysteries right now. So, anybody could be seen as Snoke," he says, while volunteering his own crazy theory into the mix, involving the surly droid from Rebels. "Maybe Chopper’s Snoke, you know, and his hard drive gets uploaded into the mind of an organic being. Chopper seems kind of evil at times."
Post your reaction when it's revealed that Chopper is Snoke
>I'm not sure if this is true or just speculation by fans but is it true that use of the dark side causes deformities?
No, not necessarily. Neither Dooku nor Kylo Ren looked deformed. Snoke was probably badly injured by someone, but he's probably not human.
Pablo said in the december recon thingie that Zeb is the 'presumably' last Lasat, so I just figured.
Can you imagine? The third Inquisitor is a Lasat hottie and together Zeb and her could repopulate the planet etc. pp, but she's evil(tm).
He also put on some Stormtrooper armor before they were caught, which is another potential connection.
I got nothing then. It may just be a new species, or another TFA design.
I also wanna' know what Sarco is.
In TCW, Filoni has already done this!
Remember that big ass hologram that was ruling a planet and R2 discovered it was just some droids behind it all along?
JJ you fucking hack! Filoni and George did the big "Wizard of Oz" twist first!
I'm deeply suspicious that his EU name Nik Sant is actually Saint Nick because of his white beard.
Woah... Now I wanna' see his face, I'm a sucker for creepy eyeless things.
Funny, I... Don't remember saving this picture...
Don't move. Sit there, staring at this screen...
As someone who has never watched this series I have a few questions, if some anon would be so kind as to answer:
1) is it any good at all? I love Star Wars but have an autistic disgust for the prequels. If this could somehow convince me to actually give a shit about Anakin, boy that'd be great.
2) So does the alien chick die? I mean she has to die, right? Otherwise, in TFA,
Luke being the last jediis totally pointless. But also, isn't she the protagonist? So how are they supposed to kill her?
1. pic realated
2. she will most likey die yes, hopefully by vader.
besides, she's not a jedi nor sith so luke would be the last jedi anyway
At least the Lego version of Rex will be easy.
They will die anyway since they are the villains. But I fear that the producers of Rebels are too afraid to do what must be done to make sure that Luke's arc in the OT isn't ruined.
>Obi-wan turns Vader to the light side in rebels season 3 and it ends with him going back to the dark side.
>this will explain the "Obi-wan once thought as you do" line when Luke tries to turn him.
That doesn't change the fact that she's not a jedi, nor is she considered apart of the Jedi order, she's just a neutral force user at this point, what she does with her powers doesn't make her Jedi nor Sith.
Well I will agree that even in the rough you can still find diamonds. Even the worst episodes offer something. Meebur Gascon brought us Gregor, Clone Bromando. The Artoo/Threepio adventures in diversion gave us poor Wolff's headache over droids and some people really liked that magic fairy frog lady. And they murdered that one meebur gascon sized thing.
And at the very least the worst can actually make you appreciate the good even more.
But then the purpose of the chart is to whittle it down to the generally accepted gems because there are some people who refuse to watch anything else. That's who the chart was made for. People who would never watch it all (especially if it's a Jar Jar episode).
During Return of the Jedi Darth Vader talks about Obi-wan trying to turn him back to the light side because there is good in him.
Nothing like that happened in Revenge of the Sith.
There is some room to have Obi-wan/Vader scenes in rebels.
That's not what this conversation is about and you know it. Aside from Tarkin's or Yoda's words about the Jedi being completely extinct, there is no logical reason why they wouldn't have been in the OT to help Luke and the Rebellion if Ahsoka, Kanan and Ezra were still alive during Luke's training. On the contrary, there is no reason to keep them alive. It would just be forced fanservice, like keeping Han alive would've been only to give us a later reunion. It wouldn't be good storytelling.
>Nothing like that happened in Revenge of the Sith.
Exactly as it did here? No, but that doesn't mean Obi-Wan didn't try to talk some sense into him multiple times throughout their encounter on Mustafar. You really need to learn how to examine dialogue. Not everything needs to be literal.
Her root training is still a strong Jedi foundation and she certainly still affiliates with them. And at this point you can self-identify with the Jedi. It means very little. There is no Order, no Council, not even any temples left that aren't abandoned (except for apparently this one with some kind of Jedi cultist dudes). It's Filoni's main point on Luke being called the Last of the Jedi. He's the only one left with two direct links to the Order, chosen by fate, the Force, and the Grand Master of the old Order.
Not really arguing with you, more curious in exploring this situation. Seems that now that TFA is out the periphery materials will start exploring some of its foundation. One of these, I suspect, will be a broader exploration of the Force, including ancient aspects, which we've seen and will see more of in Rebels, and modern interpretations. Namely the way the Rebel Alliance says, "May the Force be with you/us". It makes sense that facing such a massive, unrelenting foe as the Empire certain Rebels who know the Jedi exist still trust in the Force, while others just need to believe there is something mystical backing them up, giving them an edge over their enemies. Times may be rough now but it will see them to deliverance, even by miracle.
I suspect the comics may start to explore this, especially this Church of the Force that existed as an underground faith during the Dark Times of the Empire. I wonder what this church does. Do they wear necklaces bearing the symbol of the Jedi Order secreted on their person and kiss them before battle?
Every time someone says that Ahsoka, Kanan and Ezra should die in Rebels, some fanboy mentions how they are totally not real Jedi which would imply that they could still be alive during the OT. But that would be dumb.
They wear the guard masks and yellow blades, but no clue. The Jedi Temple guards, after all, had their own foundation in ancient traditions/dress of the Jedi Order. These can look like them and not be survivors from the temple. Hell, they might not even have any connection to the Jedi Temple on Coruscant. Imagine a remote temple still in operation, sequestered from the rest of the galaxy for hundreds or even thousands of years until discovered by the Rebels. That's a possibility, at least.
At any rate the temple guard were already very, ahem, cult like. Their masks hide their identity as they are considered as sacrificing their own interest in self in favor of the Order. It's considered quite an honorable profession, the ultimate symbol, in some ways, of devotion to the Order. "Cult" is an unflattering word for it, but that's rather what it would look like to outsiders. They take the notion of service to the whole over self much farther than the other Jedi.
No one's saying Obi-Wan did a good job of it, but it is there. You just decided to skip over every other piece of dialogue where he's trying to reason with Anakin - though much of it is chastisement.
They could have been guarding outpost temples. The Jedi used to use satellite temples, like those on Lothal, so that Jedi would have places of worship (they can mediate anywhere but temples are founded on areas exceptionally strong in the Force which amplify the experience), camaraderie, or access to kyber crystals.
The fact that this temple was overlooked by the Empire is odd. Maybe that lends credence to the idea that these are a splinter group that even the main Jedi forgot about, or these are Jedi who retreated from active temples to ancient, forgotten ones. Maybe they built a new temple for themselves. Or maybe they are survivors of the Jedi who have rededicated themselves to some ancient, martial form that finds it's same roots in the philosophy behind the Temple Guard. Maybe when they Jedi were at war with the Sith, before the reorganization of the Republic 10000 years ago (mentioned in some detail in the Tarkin novel) the Jedi's more militaristic incarnation appeared very much like the temple guard. That would be interesting. After the supposed ancient defeat of the Sith the Jedi rededicated themselves to peacekeeping, foreswearing their warrior days against the Sith.
Vader thinks Obi-Wan was there to kill him and he drew his lightsaber first then cut him to pieces.
20+ years later how does that change into him remembering Obi-wan saying things like "I feel the good in you, the conflict." and acting like Luke?
Seems it's mostly a practical thing, too, and a clever one. Showing Jedi wearing face concealing masks means they can show a large number of different potential characters without having to design and animate individuals. It's basically Jedi version of Clone or Stormtroopers.
Seeing how poorly they designed Yoda...I really hope that Yoda is somehow a placeholder but it probably isn't.
This is one of the most underrated scenes of the entire franchise.
People don't realize how much of Vader's entire character comes from this one scene.
Hell, the entire story of the prequels is built around it.
>It is... Too late, for me... Son...
There's way too many to name just one though.
>"Not as lucky as I am, to have a brother like you"
>The Umbara reveal
>Anakin trying to reason with Ahsoka in the sewers
>Ahsoka leaving the Jedi Temple
>Anakin vs Obi-Wan
>Luke blowing up the Death Star
>"I am your father"
>First time I watched the Blu Rays and heard Victory Celebration at the end of my 6-movie marathon
All of these have gotten very strong emotional responses from me.
Bonus mention to
Isval'sdeath in Lords of the Sith, that was chilling.
>>First time I watched the Blu Rays and heard Victory Celebration at the end of my 6-movie marathon
I'm mostly an unaltered purist, but the Victory Celebration and montage LITERALLY makes ROTJ a much better movie.
Ending on a high note is SO important, and Yub Nub a shit.
I wonder why Luke seems surprised when Vader orders the search for Luke's companions. Surely he knew that his bluff about being alone wouldn't be believed. Was it because Vader asked that they be brought before him rather than summarily executed?
Might not even be what Vader said but maybe something Luke felt. When he said he sensed the conflict in his father, maybe this was one of those times if he sensed Vader's reluctance towards wholesale slaughter. It's possible, at least. Vader does seem changed after ESB. He doesn't murder Piett or even threaten him after the latter swore the Falcon was disabled. He went very easy on the dude overseeing the Death Star's construction, using the Emperor as a threat over any threats of his own.
I'm not sure if it is the "most" emotional scene in Star Wars, but I certainly think Han's death scene is the best emotional scene in the franchise. Many characters have been killed off in Star Wars and killing off the "mentor character" in the first part of a trilogy is like a tradition, but Han Solo was one of the most beloved characters in Star Wars and now we saw him being killed by his own son. The scene had probably the best acting in all of Star Wars, the cinematography and the subtlety were amazing and Kylo's "Thank you" was just the perfect icing on the cake. This scene will certainly become iconic and Kylo's deed will haunt him for the rest of his life, no matter what's going to happen to him in the future.
Other than that, I'd say the burning homestead in ANH, "I am your father", Luke almost killing Vader in ROTJ and the funeral pyre on Endor were also very emotional scenes. Then there are Obi Wan's "You were my brother" on Mustafar and Fives's death, if we want to include prequel content too.
Man, the music is so weak though... That just sounded like an extremely watered down version of this:
>there will never be a Star Wars soundtrack as perfect as Episode III's again.
Why go one...
It's been talked about before, at some excessive length. Sadly a lot of the archives of these threads seem to have been lost when the old archive shat its pants. I seem to recall the old archiver saying he'd lost months worth of threads even with backups.
Anyway some of the highlights I recall is that they wouldn't have sent Kanan or Ezra or especially Ahsoka anywhere near Endor. Even Luke was risky as he said when he was sure he and Vader were sensing each other. There's no reason the Ghost couldn't have participated in the later space battle, just off camera, or since it's such a big galaxy with so many imperial targets they could have had other business.
My personal favorite Bad End scenario is that the Rebels actually do survive to the OT. They follow through a separate mission to save the children of the Force from the Empire and train them in secret for the time when Luke can defeat Vader and the Emperor. They set up a new secret temple in the one place where it can be protected by their greatest supporter ... Bail Antilles and Alderaan. Just a few extra voices crying out in terror and suddenly silenced.
But even if they do survive, say the above scenario happens only they are on a more remote location, maybe another ancient, forgotten temple, they'd still get Bad Ended by Kylo Ren.
Pottery, irony, whatever.
>Surely he knew that his bluff about being alone wouldn't be believed. Was it because Vader asked that they be brought before him rather than summarily executed?
No, it's rooted in the previous movie and the Emperor's comment upon his arrival at the Death Star II:
"And now I sense you wish to continue your search for young Skywalker."
From there on, much of Vader and Palpatine's dialogue revolves around whether or not Luke will come to them. Luke senses Vader aboard the Executor upon their arrival on Endor, saying that he was endangering the mission and shouldn't have come. As long as he stayed on Endor, he was endangering the group and the mission. Luke went to Vader knowing that Vader was only really there for him. Vader's saying to bring the rest of Luke's friends to him was obviously passing Luke's bluff, but it was also returning the Empire to its mission onworld. A Rebel strike team had penetrated the shield and landed on Endor and were still unaccounted for. They were a risk so long as they were free to roam
>goes there to kill him because he's fallen to the dark side
>calls him sith
>draws lightsaber first
>Vader thinks Obi-Wan was there to kill him and he drew his lightsaber first then cut him to pieces.
Yes, they did, you ignorant slut.
I think VII's soundtrack suffered a bit from the different orchestra, but it was still very good. I didn't like it when I watched the movie for the first time, but now I think at least Rey's and Kylo's theme are worthy additions the the rest of the saga score.
Kylo's theme gives off some fallen angel vibes which I think is perfect for a conflicted villain and a dark Jedi.
VII's soundtrack is MUCH better on repeat viewings. I was surprised how much more impressive it sounded after being initially underwhelmed too. The main problem is that it doesn't have any truly unique, instantly catchy themes like the prequels had, apart from Rey and Kylo's themes, of course. It complements the movie well, but it just didn't have that edge to put it over to greatness.
I love all the art and tone of Uprising but the actual game isn't very fun to me.
Meanwhile I love Galaxy of Heroes. I'm terrible.
Yeah, the soundtrack wasn't worse than any of the other six. It was just more subtle and more in the background. I mean just try to watch the Throne room scene or the battle between Darth Maul and Qui Gon/Obi Wan without the soundtrack. It would be boring and awkward as hell.
>I mean just try to watch the Throne room scene or the battle between Darth Maul and Qui Gon/Obi Wan without the soundtrack. It would be boring and awkward as hell.
No way. The Theed reactor is an arresting visual even without the music.
The whole duel sequence or the energy fields/generator pit duels at the end? If the former, I feel Duel of the Fates contributes a critical piece to the whole there. Without it, the duel just wouldn't work as well. Arresting still, but you'll always feel as if something is missing. George was perhaps the perfect collaborator when it concerned John Williams.
The silent generator pit sequence was perfect, though, just with that ghostly ambiance.
>How so? Do we expect Han's ghost to appear and do this dance?
Maybe in front of Kylo to piss him off even more? That could be great.
No, I meant the lyrics. Han was supposed to die in Empire, but he survived the carbonite and got his "happy end" with Leia. Now he's finally dead and will never come back again.
I hope someone realizes what a rich gap there is between RotJ and TFA at the ground level.
>Now he's finally dead and will never come back again.
You say that but you have no idea. Wait for the Filoni cartoon set in the TFA era where Lando discovers his "brother" on a junk world locked in a cyborg exoskeleton and takes him back to Leia so she can return his sanity. Then together they decide to rule the galaxy as Smuggler and Gambler.
it is but i imagine that section is off limits til the sequel trilogy comes out in full so the movies can draw whatever they want from it and the intervening fiction doesn't need to worry about dodging events or retconing stuff
Anyone who thinks Ahsoka will die in Rebels better prepare their anus for maximum firepower when Darth Felon'i and his dark cowboy hat give us a new cartoon set after the fall of Luke's order that has old Master Tano leading a scrappy group of surviving padawans against the naughty First Order.
After all, there were people who swore she had to die in TCWs since she didn't show up in Episode III. Gird your colon, you're going to feel like the sarlacc has had it's way with you for a thousand years when Filoni is done with you.
Because it's the easiest and frankly cheapest way to drag Obi-Wan into Rebels. Maybe even Luke too if Maul senses that the boy is somehow important to Kenobi. As long as Luke doesn't know who rescued him exactly (something that happened in the comics) they're fine.
Of course there is nothing to suggest Luke and Obi-Wan never met before ANH. In fact Luke recognizes him. Maybe from the stories, maybe he actually saw him. As long as the acquaintance isn't too deep and certainly no training.
It's still debatable. Dooku had only been using the dark side for ten or so years, and Kylo probably less than that. And there's always the theory that Sheev's face had already been degrading, he was just using some force trick to hold it together (which is why the lightning didn't melt Luke's face). And he would've likely taught Dooku that trick.
There are other characters like Talzin that are a little more sketchy, but if Snoke was using the dark side during the Clone Wars, then that's a good 50 years of evil. I can buy that rotting your flesh over such a long period a lot more than Bioware's "I kicked a puppy, now my face has instant-villain-herpes."
The Jedi dojo has to be a vision. Pretty sure Vader v Asoka is a vision as well. They won't really face each other til the end and he will kill her.
Honestly I think most of the Vader appearances here are visions.
>Of course there is nothing to suggest Luke and Obi-Wan never met before ANH. In fact Luke recognizes him. Maybe from the stories, maybe he actually saw him. As long as the acquaintance isn't too deep and certainly no training.
Are you retarded? its common knowledge that Luke knew Ben his whole life. Obi Wan was there to watch over him and with Luke always going off on his own on Tatooine, im sure he met with Ben and heard stories plenty of times
Every time I play battlefront, I remember why I never play shooters. Fucking camping faggots hiding at the back constantly shooting you with pulse rifles, boba fett constantly hiding up and sniping you, explosive shots everywhere. We need better Star Wars games.
>After all, there were people who swore she had to die in TCWs since she didn't show up in Episode III.
The difference is that Aksoka's death in TCW would've basically come out of nowhere. She would've died because of order 66, not because her personal arc would've required her to die.
Now they're building up her death scene as the final conclusion to her character arc similar to what Abrams did with Han Solo in VII. It's her destiny to confront her old master and we all know how this is likely going to end.
Not sure about some of the ideas people have regarding the Rebels cast or any surviving Jedi in the OT era. Does Leia knowing of other Jedi matter? Not really, she knew about Obi-Wan after all. That was the reason she went to Tatooine.
As far as the comics are concerned they won't interfere with the ongoing cartoon, so you'll never really have any more than vague references at best. Aftermath mentioning that Wedge was recruited into the Alliance by Fulcrum, for instance. Or probably just a rebel group since the Alliance as a collective organization doesn't even exist yet in Rebels.
Meanwhile Obi-Wan and Yoda won't mention any other Jedi to Luke because they aren't part of his path. Luke is supposed to allow for the Return of the Jedi after he faces Vader alone. Even they weren't going to help Luke in his last trial. In the latest comic Obi-Wan even used his ghost whispering to Luke prior to ESB to tell him that it was too soon for him to be dicking around in ancient Jedi Temples. Ghost Obi-Wan and Yoda (and technically Qui-Gon) are all on their own time table as their own part in Luke's destiny. Luke isn't mean to become some kind of proxy Jedi General and his training is meant to come at very certain times.
And frankly even in Rebels it's clear that neither Kanan nor Ezra expect Ahsoka to do more than be an ally. Rex stepped in on the boy's training, but Ahsoka is leaving them to their own devices - for now.
If there are ever any interactions during the OT between Luke and the Rebels we'll probably never know, and we certainly won't know until Filoni is ready to tell us. And Filoni barely says any secrets, not even to those people working with him. Just ask Freddie Prinze.
Well it's clear you've never read the comics or even watched ANH. Luke knows OF Ben, we don't know that the know each other and Ben didn't even share any secrets of Luke's past until after the sand people attack. In the comics he rescues Luke after the boy refuses to put up with thugs sent by Jabba to collect "water tithes" and Luke doesn't know who saved him. Later on we're supposed to get more insights from Kenobi's journal that details why Uncle Owen won't let Luke be trained and refuses to even let the two interact. Owen doesn't want Luke anywhere near Kenobi.
Obi-Wan was Luke's secret guardian his entire life and did things for Luke that are only being discovered now after Ben is dead. Luke, however, is more pissed that the journals don't share any Jedi secrets or training.
Actually people were saying that she had to die before Episode III otherwise how do you explain her absence? Barring that they were sure Order 66 would get her.
Turns out neither happened. And yes, people were upset.
Filoni expressed possibilities, anon. He does not share his secrets, however. Take nothing for granted.
The largest thing protecting the Rebels is that they are on DisneyXD where things can't get too violent. Also there is absolutely no way in hell, barring the extremely unlikely mid-story cancellation, that the end game for Rebels will be everybody dying or an evil, corrupt Ezra. They won't do a kid's show with a Dark Side ending as canon.
Yes, but it's confirmed that Kylo Ren is 30 years old. They made him look (and act) younger to illustrate his vulnerability. He will probably look older and "more mature" in the next movie.
That's not how it works. The Jedi ones do die. Hera, Sabine, Zeb, and Chopper could very well live and it would contradict nothing. But Ahsoka, Kanan, and Ezra will not. Yoda knows of Kanan and Ezra, he would not say what he says to Luke if they yet lived. Not would Leia call Obi-Wan her only hope. It's not complicated and there's only one way about it.
>Not would Leia call Obi-Wan her only hope
Leia witnesses first-hand that Kanan and Ezra are actually weak as fuck and can't do anything useful for her. She then goes looking for Obi-wan to be her only hope for getting shit done.
>Yoda knows of Kanan and Ezra, he would not say what he says to Luke if they yet lived.
Yoda tells Luke what he fells Luke needs to know. He didn't tell Luke about his sister or father right away either.
Put it this way, Yoda knowing about Ezra and that the boy has his own problems actually makes it unlikely Yoda will throw him anywhere near Luke's destiny. Luke had enough shit going on and one helluva challenge in his future that ultimately he had to face alone. Remember that there was at least one other Jedi when Luke faced Vader in ESB, Yoda himself, but Yoda stayed out of it and barely anybody questioned a much more seasoned and powerful Jedi Master is staying out of things.
There is no reason for their paths to converge. As for Obi-Wan and Leia, her dad sent her after a high level member of the old Jedi Council during what they knew was their darkest hour against the Death Star. He easily trumps Ahsoka, Kanan, and Ezra in terms of providing hope against such a trial.
As it turned out there was an even greater New Hope that neither Leia nor Bail knew about who saved the day.
>but Ahsoka is leaving them to their own devices
I figured it was because Kenan had a more complete training than Ahsoka and as such, it would end with him teaching her if she started talking Anakin philosophy out of her ass.
That's not how it will go and you know it. They are weak as fuck, but that's beside the point. By the time ANH begins, it will be 5 or so years later, which means they wouldn't necessarily be weak anymore and very experienced with rescue missions in Imperial ships I might add. Which means they're dead.
Ahsoka has more complete training than Kanan. She was Anakin Skywalker's own padawan through much of the Clone Wars. Kanan got a crash course at the very end, then stopped using his Jedi powers for years as he had to abandon what he was as Caleb and truly become Kanan.
Ahsoka, however, has expressed that she feels that he is more Jedi than she is at the moment. Whether this is in terms of old rules, since last we know she was kicked out of the Order, or something to do with the separate path she is on. Who knows. Filoni works in mysterious ways.
No. Stop grasping at straws. You're being more autistic than bible thumpers trying to turn what's written in the bible into "interpretation" when there's no room for it. Yoda told Luke the truth. He didn't need to know about his father and sister, it was dangerous knowledge, but there was no lie in telling him that he was the last Jedi.
No, they don't breath in space, anon. We've seen several on camera asphyxiations, even clone/stormtroopers who have backup oxygen takes for ~twenty minutes are still ultimately vulnerable to vacuum. The Stormtroopers even have their own space equipment for duty outside of ships/space stations.
Rebels Recons say otherwise. Ahsoka has followed a more spiritual path than a warrior one and she handled the two Inquisitors by herself, only needing an evac when their stormtrooper backup arrived.
The clones didn't seem to care when Anakin and Ahsoka got them killed by the dozen. I doubt the rebels give a fuck when Ahsoka sends a hundred of them to die wherever.
And again, wielding a lightsaber may be all Ahsoka is good for, which is like 0% of jedi philosophy.
>there is a lot of philosophy to being a jedi
Literally all we see in terms of training is "This is my lightsaber. It is my life..."
Jedi and Dagobah Yoda have fuck all to do with another.
Killed all the heroes the kids are attached to? Wow, then what are they going to do with the rest of the season? Guess we're watching the Ghost Show in that recent trailer since they're all dead.
Hera bosses him around. Ezra he can prank but also they go on wacky adventures without telling the others. Breaking all the rules.
Remember that Chopper is like a cat. Sometimes they show love by bringing you things they've killed or just randomly inserting their claws into your arm.
Why isn't anyone talking about the yellow TIE Fighter?!
Yes yes, we know you're autistic anon. Stop being proud of it. Pity you aren't one of those savant types or you'd have been able to follow this simple conversation back to the point where it would have been clear people were talking about the deaths of all main characters, or at least main Jedi. Killing side characters in non-gory deaths is one thing. They couldn't even say the inhabitants of Tarkin Town were all killed, only that they were relocated before their buildings were torched. The final episode of Rebels isn't going to just end with the Ghost exploding and everybody dying. If you can't figure that out it's just your inability to understand emotions or empathy or other human beings in general.
Most every episode of TCW that had Jedi outside of Anakin and Ahsoka went over jedi philosophy to some extent. The genosis arch with Barris and Luminara, the episode with Sinube, the arch with Aayla, the Krell episodes, Any time Plo shared screen time with Ahsoka and many of Obi-Wan's appearances.
The fact that most of the series is the retard show: starring lightsabers, anakin, ahsoka and a bunch of jobbers might have fucked with your perception of things.
The latest season features people getting turned into cards forever, and begging for their life on their knees as it is happening. Also the genocide of an entire world, while the people doing the genocide turn it into a sport.
Maybe. Shattered Empire showed that Naboo was completely demilitarized by the Empire, though, so I can't imagine they would ever be protected by anything other than standard TIE fighters and other Imperial ships, which forbid unique ornamentation or paint jobs by regulations.
Of course he missed the old stash of Naboo fighters left over from The Phantom Menace which still manage to kick TIE Fighter ass.
That show is still going on? Trading card/battle deck games were never my thing, but that actually surprises me. Pokemon, of course, is eternal. Not even fire will scrub it clean of this Earth.
I think so? There were a couple of different versions of Maul's survival and eventual death in the EU, some of them even What Ifs. I don't feel like pulling up The Wook which of course will have every Legends aspect covered in ridiculous details.
It's obviously tactical genius Meebur Gascon in droid battle armor based on some of Grievous' anti-Jedi capacity.
I want this just so we can hit nuSW for cribbing from the EU again, specifically Dark Empire, Young Jedi Knights Season 2 (wait, wasn't that a fake clone emperor? CHOPPER!!!) etc etc etc...
Snoke looks like a bomb went off on the left side of his face. Torn flesh, collapsed and missing bone, a big split in the skull, ear torn to a nub, it looks like it was all one thing on that side of the body. Maybe a fire instead?
I'm pretty confident he took a lightsaber to the face.
My theory is
Snoke is strong enough with the dark side that he is capable of a superpowered version of force heal, and can survive wounds that should kill him 10 times over including powerful explosions and fires. I'm waiting for the heroes to fight him and gawk when someone runs a lightsaber through him to no effect.
I get the impression that it's meant to be like he's basically this ancient, rotting corpse yet somehow still alive. Like the dark side is all that's keeping him from death, similar to Darth Sion. His skin is icy white like the color of a dead person's after their blood drains away.
Galaxy of Heroes is the shit. Just get on daily to get your drops, and then do daily activities, if you play it right you can sim the majority of them in about 5 minutes.
Don't do like I did and focus on getting cool characters, just upgrade those you have and characters will come in steadily.
Yeah I'm can play it for like half an hour every morning and get what I want, then recap in the afternoon.
I'm on the path to getting Darth Vader and Count Dooku without paying for anything.
Uprising would've been amazing if it had been a true Diablo style PC game. It is hampered by extreme repetition, no variety, and all the other cancerous sins of a mobile game and as a result isn't fun to play because the grind is too absurd and the gameplay too simple. It's motivated by greed, not the desire to be a good game, and it shows. Galaxy of Heroes is better because it is a mobile game that isn't pretending to be more and is more respectful of the player's time.
I'm going with the "took a lightsaber to the face but survived thanks to dark side hax"
It's surprising how hopefully the TCWs ended considering it was about to enter Episode III. The series finale on CN wasn't planned as the series ending until the Disney sale but however bittersweet it ended with Ahsoka leaving, walking down the stairs in nearly the same shot that Anakin would later walk up them during Operation Knightfall. As Ahsoka left the sky was apparently late evening, showing that she left before "nightfall".
The actual ending they managed in season 6 on Netflix somehow ended on an even more hopeful note and reiteration that through the coming darkness they must never lose hope. It took over twenty years for that hope to present itself but it still happened.
Vader is the endgame for doing the achievements, I play it on my lunch at work and get most of my shit done. I bought 2,800 shards when Kylo Ren was being touted big, and I got a Resistance Pilot and character shards, I was fucking fuming.
Galactic War is the dream when you have enough characters, you can just auto every match and complete them all in about 10 minutes and get ~400K a day.
What I found interesting about Snoke is that he acts kinda like a father figure to Kylo and Hux. Sheev has always been an asshole to his apprentices and servants, but the First Order leadership looks almost like a dark side family.
No problem brother.
Too big to post on 4chan in fact.
I was thinking about splitting it into two parts so that it can actually be posted here.
The first being Clone Wars -> Rise of the Empire
and the second being Galactic Civil War -> New Republic Era
What do you guys think?
It's hard to find anons who went from TCWs to a first time viewing of the movies, but it has happened. There's also anons who admit when they first saw the Prequels they didn't know Palpatine was Sidious, that Anakin became Vader, or that the Clone Troopers become the first Stormtroopers.
Only reason they didn't is because the main cast was already too old. If Lucas had made the sequel trilogy 20 years ago like he should have, it would not have taken place 30 years later.
Based on the titles and what we know so far, the Aftermath trilogy is only going to cover, at most, 2 years after Endor. That still leaves tons of time for more trilogies.
I dunno, it actually worked quite well for Luke througout IV, V and VI. And that's only mostly because of the car accident Hamill was in.
Currently watching the Overlord episode of Clone Wars.
What in the FUCK is this? This is really out there even for star wars.
>this is the future
Rian Johson, Writer/Director of Episode VIII reteweeted this.
Ah yeah, the Mortis arc... You're in for a ride.
Oh... Oh dear... It's a fun picture, but... I feel uncomfortable.
Aftermath Trilogy is books, the first one is out and it's pretty controversial. In that it's badly written and nothing interesting happens in it.
Though the events within allegedly actually happened, keep in mind that it's been treated as a sort of shared Dagobah cave/Lothal Temple experience, even in universe. Just watch till the end.
>Daisy will never wear a Slave Leia type outfit ever
Just die in my sleep already
It's an awesome arc about the nature of the Force. I always really liked how it felt almost like a stage play about the chosen one prophecy that the characters accidentally stumbled into. Personal favorite, a lot of people hate it though.
>Are inquisitors Sith too?
To be fair, the inquisitors aren't trained as sith. Ahsoka and Kanan were trained as Jedi. They just didn't finish. But the inquisitors know shit about the sith religion, while Ahsoka and Kanan know a lot of jedi teachings. As such they are incredibly dangerous to Sheev and Vader.
Obi-Wan and Yoda, powerful jedi masters, survived as long as they did by disappearing. Ahsoka had disappeared too, but now, she, Kanan, and Ezra are operating out in the open and the hammer is coming down.
A better counter example would be Maul, who was actually trained as a sith. And who yes, I fully expect to die regardless of any "but I'm not a sith anymore" shenanigans as the prophecy must be fulfilled.
Is this a stealth FinnxPoe thread?
Yeah, shit fucking sucks that Kathleen Kennedy, Carrie Fisher, and Disney have gone full feminazi and purged that outfit from all merchandising and condemned it as being worse than Hitler or some shit. Which is pretty rich coming from Carrie considering how much of a notorious, drug addicted slut she always was. I mean, for fuck's sake, her advice to Daisy was "don't go through the cast and crew like wildfire". And yet a sexy outfit is somehow too terrible to be spoken of ever again.
And most of this philosophy centres around the symbol of their order, which is a sword. They explicitely wrote in the destiny arc to explain why War Leader Yoda != Dagobah Yoda.
>literally this retarded
Not killing the MCs has fuck all to do with "kids show" or not, you autistic twat. If it shows war crimes and people die left and right, odds are, it doesn't fall into the "kids show" cliche.
>Carrie Fischer has gone full feminazi
Kathleen Kennedy is the best thing to happen to Star Wars since 1998.
Fuck no. She's a cancer. Only JJ, Kasdan, and the story group are keeping that retarded cunt in check but she's 100% the reason why Rey is a Mary Sue and Star Wars isn't allowed to be a boy's franchise anymore.
A true SW fan would never agree with you
Anything you can share to back that up, or are you just going to repeat that statement over and over with different wording? I ask because it could save us 50 useless posts trying to find out the old fashioned way.
I don't inherently doubt it, but at least give examples.
>Fuck no. She's a cancer. Only JJ, Kasdan, and the story group are keeping that retarded cunt in check
She assembled the story group in 2012, then JJ, Kasdan.
>but she's 100% the reason why Rey is a Mary Sue and Star Wars isn't allowed to be a boy's franchise anymore.
There's only five times as many male characters as female in Star Wars now, what a Feminist takeover!
;__; Next it'll be castration camps!
I really like Darth Vaders SWR design. I mean, obviously they didn't actually change his original design, but I love the way they interpreted it. I always thought the red eyes from A New Hope were cool and I actually think the thin blades look nice.
I don't have the time to google shit for you, nor is it my job, but just look at any interview she's done in the past year of two. She's lost it and has decided that Star Wars needs to be a feminist franchise. It's not a secret.
>A true SW fan would never agree with you
Only a Sith deals in absolutes.
I wonder if one of the reasons Rey is so good with the Falcon is because it's considered so old. A lot of their tech has upgraded after the Empire and the newest ball droids don't even have attached heads, it's all wireless with completely sealed bodies to avoid dust and particulates gumming up their inner workings. For instance when the Falcon loses power briefly Rey starts to tell him how to fix it and then he suddenly seems to remember it himself. Something between old age and not having been around the Falcon for a long time.
That and, let's be perfectly honest, Han and Chewie's track record with repairing the Falcon was never all that great. They even played it for laughs several times in ESB with tools falling on Han's head and Han stealing Threepio's repair instructions pretending they were obvious all along.
And only a libtard tries to fix something that's not broken.
>I don't have the time to google shit for you, nor is it my job, but just look at any interview she's done in the past year of two. She's lost it and has decided that Star Wars needs to be a feminist franchise. It's not a secret.
One day the ratio of male to female characters will be 1:1
Truly, a femnazi holocaust.
Next time they might even add a black woman!
>And only a libtard tries to fix something that's not broken.
The original Star Wars films were edited by Marcia Lucas, and only as good because of her influence over George to correct his storytelling limitations.
She can already pull a decent Jaina off.
>Is Kylo's mask airtight like Vader's was?
It's makes a hiss and a pop when it's taken off, so for sure it's sealed.
>I'm guessing the rest of his suit isn't spacesuit-tier based on how thin it is.
I assume it filters out smoke like the stormtrooper masks.
One of the things I liked in TFA was Old Han's kinder side was standing out. OT Han could dismiss others, Luke as a farm boy, Leia as a snobbish princess. Instead when Rey shows her relative ignorance/naiveté over how green worlds can be he doesn't belittle her. He also gives Finn some sound advice on women. He's much less prickly or standoffish (at least after his initial intent to just jettison the two in a pod) and just generally fatherly, but in a wounded sense that becomes clear.
It's a nice touch and development of his character.
According to Pablo the cosmic Force is on siesta until Finn and Rey wake it up. Qui-Gon acts like the living Force is the moment so does this mean that the ability of even Snoke and Ren to sense the past and future are stunted? Even owning Vader's helmet it may not be possible for him to sense anything of what Vader really was.
Also not sure what the cosmic Force being asleep means for the ghosts.
George must feel a little salty that in his original script, Finn was Sam, the son of Han & Leia, and Kylo Ren was a Jedi Killer, but not anyone's son.
>Kylo Ren was a Jedi Killer, but not anyone's son.
If it was indeed in the Lucas script for episode VII you can bet in the script for episode VIII he turned out to be someone's kid. And then someone loses a hand.
The pottery wheel must turn.
Sounds good, i'm just checking it right now, i think the only thing wrong is Weapon o a Jedi, it's definitely after the first two volumes of the comics, Luke is already aware of some of his Jedi powers and is able to fight against Sarco, while in the comics he's still everybody's bitch, it might be before Vader Down, since we haven't seen Luke do any Jedi stuff in it
I'm currently watching The Clone Wars, and I'm really enjoying it. The Battle of Umbara is fucking nuts right now. I've been following this guide (pic related), so are there any S6 episodes I should skip? Are there any Jar Jar episodes I should steer clear of?
It's possible. The dynamic of the Cosmic and Living Force intrigue me greatly, but it turns out the more we find out about it, the more questions seem to open up. Very interesting.
>Also not sure what the cosmic Force being asleep means for the ghosts.
Force Ghosts are as they are because they exist in the Living Force. They manage to retain their identities after death by rejecting the collective oblivion of the Cosmic Force in favor of being a part of the Living Force and thus on the living plane. Unfortunately, the relationship of the Living and Cosmic Force seems to be one of symbiosis:
>All that surrounds us is the foundation of life, the birthplace of what your science calls midi-chlorians, the foundation of what connects the Living Force and the Cosmic Force. When a living thing dies, all is removed. Life passes from the Living Force into the Cosmic Force and becomes one with it. One powers the other. One is renewed by the other.
So the Cosmic Force powers the Living Force, which in turn renews the Cosmic Force. The Jedi are taught to use the Living Force, whereas the Sith and any other Dark Side dedicants fuck with that balance by exploiting the Dark Side of the Living Force, which while part of the Force, is not the true nature of the Force, which exempts it from the natural cycle. With the Jedi [still] gone, the Dark Side remains the dominant Force in the galaxy, albeit at a much weaker scale compared to when the Sith ruled the galaxy. Regardless, because the Living Force is not in use, the more fantastic phenomena that is usually granted by its usage (Force Ghosts, looking into the past and future), are stunted. You can still use the powers, sense people's presence, and your consciousness can still pass into the Cosmic Force, but you shouldn't expect to become part of the great equation in the moving of someone's destiny any time soon. It's a guess.
God, this is exactly what I've been hoping for when it comes to the Force, I'm so tingly
I don't think Carrie hates it actually, she may have said some things in the past but keep in mind she's bipolar and has gone back forth about allot of things in her comments over the years.
As for the scene I don't think it was bad honestly. It made sense in the context of the movie and she rescues herself for gods sake, the OT never made Leia out to be helpless.
That said I can understand Disney not wanting to sell that as a toy to kids but to condemn that part of the movie is beyond retarded. It was not sexist at all.
no, but seriously, all they need is for her to dress up like that, and watch all these normies love her 10 times more, without realizing that She's mirroring popular(only hated by people who think Caedus should've won) EU character.
I agree. I saw TFA for the second time last night, you hit the nail on the head.
Also noticed a bunch of other stuff I missed/forgot-from the first viewing
>Rey is almost certainly lukes kid, too much hinting and implications going for it
>Snoke's music isn't the same as the opera scene music from episode 3, there's no deep voiced background vocals, and the tone is a bit different. He also has very thin fuzzy patches of hair, ruling out him being a muun
Everything else felt better this time around. Less feelings of "oh this is stolen from x-scene from x-movie", but maybe that just comes with multiple viewings. Rey didn't feel too op, at least not for a Star Wars protagonist.
Seems largely intimidation, yeah. Maybe also for some self-psychological ploy, a distancing of yourself and your emotions from your actions. Dooku and Sheev were very much about making their real face into a mask. Both were the diplomatic, urbane old men of their respective sides but total monsters beneath the surface.
Maul is an unknown, really, because we don't really know what the plans for him were in the Clone Wars although he knew about them as far back as TPM when he "died". The old TCW threads had some speculation that he would never have been the public face of the CIS as Dooku was and could be. Maul's role was played out by himself when he made his criminal empire. He would rule from the shadows using weak minded and corruptible proxies. Frankly it fits. It's just hard to imagine Darth Maul's face as being accepted as the face of freedom from Republic oppression and corruption. Possible, I guess. Dooku was certainly a good second replacement.
First of all, Caedus should have won. Second, Jaina only became a shit character because of Mary Sue syndrome that cranked up to 11 out of nowhere mostly because of Karen Traviss but then continued with other writers who wildly differed in their writing and characterization of her. Just look at the Fate of the Jedi series. She's like a completely different character every other book and entirely unlikable throughout. It's unintentionally bipolar as fuck.
Maybe dressing nice for a high class location in the galaxy. Something slinky but not as revealing as a slave bikini. I'd love to see at least once a James Bond grade casino scene in a Star Wars movie. Everyone all dressed up nice and getting a sense of the atmosphere of rich leisure in the setting before the blasters all draw and sabers come out.
>Nice robot legs, asshole.
>nice robot everything, loser.
>This is all because of that traitorous douchebag Kenobi!
>Wait wait, you hate Kenobi, too?
>Yeah, you too?
>Fuck yeah, I hate that bearded fuck.
>Well what the fuck are we fighting for? Let's go track him down and kick his ass!
>Fuck yeah, bro!
And then they went off to find Obi-Wan Kenobi.
That would be interesting like some kind of rich persons ball, maybe the imperial elite gathering together for a party.
Then Sheev comes and totally kills the atmosphere. Creepy old guys tend to kill the room you know? Then again this is Sheev we're talking about, maybe he'd be the life of the party and Vader is the party pooper.
Seems more like the ghosts are cosmic Force. They become one with the Force just as everyone else but they can retain their sentience. This seems to be why they are outside of the bounds of normal time and space. Qui-Gon existed where they were the past and future were all the same. He also showed that they can manipulate the real world, as he levitated objects next to Yoda, but they are still limited in how much they can interfere. They seem bound, whether by actual limitations or just by principals, from interfering too much or in too hands-on ways. They're like the will of the Force itself, they can aid events but people still have free will. Events must be decided by the living even if the dead can offer guidance. The Force can call to Rey in Maz's castle but she's free to say, "Augh, fuck that, I'm going back to my lice filled hovel on Jakku!"
As for the living and cosmic, Jedi and Sith use both, and something the younger ones struggle in finding a balance between them. You have to remain mindful of the living, the now, and through it connect with people and events surrounding you, but the cosmic tends to be more spiritual since it is beyond the material universe. It's how they can sense the future and past, seems to be where their visions come from as opposed to their "spider sense" for attacks or when major shit happens like Alderaan exploding which comes through the living Force.
Not 100% sure, of course. It's all pretty wild. Plus I don't think anyone can say whether the ghosts, even if part of the cosmic, were limited when the cosmic went dormant since they have wills of their own. At the very least Obi-Wan definitely spoke to Rey in her vision so they are definitely still active. Somewhat.
Hell Leia's first act after being rescued on the Death Star was to rescue her rescuers. Similarly Rey freed herself but there is no indication that she could have found a ship to get off Starkiller Base, especially when Ren hunting her. She got lucky that Han's presence suddenly distracted him.
I think Sheev always planned to replace Maul or at least he never intended him for any public position.
Either Sheev would have killed Maul himself for Dooku or he would have kept them both in different roles.
Yea honestly I don't think Star Wars has ever really been sexist but then again complaining about non issues is the bread and butter of modern feminists.
Regardless I like Rey. She's cute and she's a good character IMO so I'm happy with it even if they did put her in just for muh girl power.
Honestly I think a more feminine version of the ROTJ Luke outfit would work breddy well, except maybe in a dark brown instead of #BLACKED.
She has no tits, but her legs/ass are aight
She was a Sith that seduced a bunch of young Jedi and then she killed them. WHY DIDN'T THEY MADE IT LIKE THAT?
You rock, anon. Good to see we can still have serious discussions that don't turn into shit slinging.
I wonder how ghosts even work. Thinking about it thanks to the OT fans took them for granted but then it turns out they're still one of the biggest mysteries in Star Wars and the Force. Even season six didn't really go into details about the actual process leaving it offscreen for qui-gon's training of Yoda. I think all we know is the Sith can't do it because they're too obsessed with the material world, and one of the major tricks to doing it is knowing yourself, your true self, and then letting go.
It's not bait, I'm just putting that out there.
I know it triggers you guys, but...
snoke = deformed clone body
the body hes using is a quick fix while his permanent body has been growing at a normal pace for 20 years.
mark my words we will see snoke die the next movie and sheev reborn.... sheev reborn looks like general hux thats weird
People like to live in home, even if that hope turns out to be a lie.
I meant to say this a week ago when I finished rewatching TCWs season 6. Can't say what they'll do now Lucas is gone but the heavy suggestion is that Sidious was outright lying to Anakin. Suddenly Sidious talks about the secrets to saving anyone you care about, the one thing beyond all others that can be used to seduce Anakin? And Sidious kills his master without bothering to learn the secret for himself? In fact Sidious goes from telling Anakin he is the only one who could give Anakin the power to save Padme but when Anakin is corrupted suddenly he says, "We'll find the secret together."
Curious (or not considering poetry is always involved) this very much mirrors Sidious' attempt to break or corrupt Yoda in the very last episode of TCWs. Appearing as Sifo-Dyas he claims he alone can tell Yoda the true identity of the Sith Master, but also that the Sith Master knows the secret Yoda is seeking. Truth is Sidious doesn't know shit about what Yoda is doing on Moraband, he just knows Yoda must be searching for something. Sidious/Sifo-Dyas uses the same, "Join me and together we'll know the secret."
It was all a lie. The Sith can't learn the secret to life after death because the only shown method is beyond them.
>Rey is a classy lady.
come on anon. She grew up in garbage. She lived in garbage. She does have that core world accent; I'll give you that. But in terms of high class, she would be lower than street rat Ezra.
You've seen her table manners.
My father just got into Star Wars thanks to TFA. But now he says he prefers the lightsaber fights of the PT over the OT and TFA. Does he have shit taste?
I don't see what the issue of the prequel fights are. They look cool, and these people aren't normal beings holding swords. The force makes them have super abilities, it makes sense they can jump around.
>arguing with friend over the fact that Kanan, Ezra and Ahsoka count as Jedi
He claims that since Kanan and Ahsoka were only Padawan learners they dont count as Jedi and the only "real" Jedi were Knights and Masters.
We haven't argued this hard over a fictional thing since Mass Effect and whether synthetic sentience counts as a soul.
To paraphrase Mr. Plinkett, the main problem was that they made the fights more about the lightsabers than the characters fighting. The stylish combat is cool and all but with a lack of emotional involvement they get boring fast.
Eh, the fights in the PT aren't nearly the worst things about them. They just don't manage to justify all the other horrible things in the movies. If he likes them, it's totally cool. If he likes the characters, dialogue, and plot, I'm sorry, but your father may have shit taste.
Kanan is most certainly a Jedi.
Ezra and Ahsoka are in a very greyzone, but I'm sure we'll touch upon that soon enough.
I've got a feeling Ezra is going to be done with the Force Business when Rebels comes to a close.
Remember that when Ahsoka was a padawan, she said she was a Jedi and people called her a Jedi. She was just a student. However, she did -leave- the order, so no, she is not a Jedi.
Kanan was a Jedi, however. And Ezra is his padawan. But now the Jedi Order itself is gone, so it would likely be more appropriate to call them Jedi-in-Exile.
He missed that one, then. The lightsabers are an extension of their body. It's the point at which their argument moved beyond mere words to actually trying to kill each other. It was a fight with all their skill, with everything they had, like their attempts to Force push each other that ended up throwing the both across the room. The saber was no less a part of Anakin than his own cyborg hand when he was trying to strangle his best friend and brother.
Whether it worked or not, that's up to the individual, but the intent wasn't even subtle.
Damn, just saw the Mid Season trailer. Finally a non Anime show i can enjoy and follow till the end.
This lady explains that, even if you do see the fights as over exaggerated, that's not necessarily a bad thing, it doesn't detract from the artistic merit.
Also, screw it, I like the prequel fights, especially the ones in TPM and RotS. Seeing Jedi in their prime was cool.
No, it's not a lie. It's a lesson. Palpatine told Anakin everything he needed to know about the dark side and he instead heard only the part he wanted about keeping people alive. The power was real, Palpatine may even have known some of it, but it's an ironic story about a man who was so obsessed with finding ways to prolong his life that he failed to see the real danger right underneath his nose. And no amount of power to stay alive past your natural life's length can protect you from a Lightsaber to the back. There's also a strong implication that Anakin was created using that very same power, so it's definitely not a trick. The secret is in the telling. And in that same way, Plagueis IS dead and is not Snoke because it is counter to the point of that story.
Are they going to Malachor V in this?
>Lots of Sith holocrons and Dark Side power shown in trailer
>The Ghost flying above a planet that looks just like Malachor
>Ezra finds a cross-guard Saber like Kylo Ren's. The art book for TFA states that the cross guard blade comes from a special crystal found only on Malachor
>Hammerhead class starships showing up, a signature KOTOR design
>"There's always some truth in legends" before immediately cutting to a hammerhead warship
Not to mention Raktlata Prime on that TFA Galaxy map and Taris showing up in Aftermath. Whatever is happening I think Disney is priming us for either a KOTOR remake or a KOTOR movie adaptation. The Lucas story group has yet to dive into tales of the ancient old Republic and the way I see it is KOTOR, with its big fanfare, is a perfect place to start exploring that era in the nucanon.
...dude, you're saying "the PT fights were supposed to be fights". Except as >>79045197
said, they look absolutely nothing like people >actually trying to kill each other .If they were meant to convey the intent to kill, they fail completely.
Even your average viewer can tell when someone's swinging to miss. It's why people stopped doing it after John Wayne and Captain Kirk. Apparently, Lucas never got the memo.
Yeah, the way I see it Ezra could probably get away with giving up the Jedi business and live a normal life, but for Ahsoka and Kanan who were raised and trained as Jedi they still count as Jedi even if he's in exile and she had left the order before hand.
Basically if it follows the Jedi philosophy like a Jedi, swings a lightsaber like a Jedi, uses the force like a Jedi, fights for good and just cause like a Jedi, then its clearly a Jedi even if it didn't pass trials.
Also, considering that KOTOR shit has shown up in cross media content (Rebels, TFA, Aftermath) it seems this is a general disney push and not just guerilla war by Kotor fans working on Disney projects to get stuff into canon.
I don't think there was ever an implication, only a line people connected and turned into a theory they've refused to let go ever since that Snoke could create life with the Force.
There are far stronger implications, rooted in the Prophecy of Balance itself, that it was never the Sith but the Force itself that created Anakin. Given what happens this will always make more sense than Plagueis fucking with his chemistry set and suddenly BOOM a random chick on Tatooine is knocked up in an experiment that ends up boomeranging back and taking out Sidious and the Sith.
Also Sidious outright said that Plagueis could save others, just not himself. Given Sidious never showed this power he either, a. was lying or b.was actually stupid enough to kill his master before learning these secrets.
Then there is the fact that twenty+ years later the only interest/obsession we see Sheev use is his need to solidify his own power. He never makes one overt mention of any life extension research either before he corrupted Anakin or afterward. That's a pretty damn major implication right there.
Something did happen to it though, it's just not been revealed yet. From the wook
>"At some point in galactic history, Taris suffered from a devastation of some sort, resulting in the surface being littered with ships, many buildings being destroyed, and the atmosphere becoming largely polluted. Although the city ultimately maintained its status as a major urban world, many of its population resorted to living in makeshift homes, many of which were old shipping containers."
Malak leveled the city but the planet wasn't blown up like Alderaan or something. 3000 years later it could have been nice rebuilt.
We don't know for sure, though. It is only mentioned in passing and no one goes on its surface in the book.
Also, you may be getting Taris mixed up with Telos IV which has never been mentioned in any new Canon materials yet.
>Vader goes to a planet to check out some mysterious dark side activity.
>Gets there a finds out some cultists have cloned Maul since they think Vader is an inferior apprentice because he used to be a Jedi.
>Maul clone shit talks Vader about being a machine
>Vader wins and pottery takes place
>Sheev kills the cultists and acts like he had no idea they cloned Maul. Sly son of a bitch.
Sorry, but you simply missed the point of that whole scene and are just making things up. It's not that complicated, Palpatine didn't make up any of it. The ability that he spoke of is simply not something that can be done easily or quickly, it is likely a ritual similar to what he does in TCW to attack Yoda from across the galaxy. You couldn't use it in a fight to keep yourself from dying because it's not like a Force push or something. It is also very visually telling that he is in fact older than he should naturally be by RotJ. He looks like he's well over 100 years old. It's going over your head if you think that's coincidence.
Not every anon is the same anon. 4chan Protip #1.
You're reading into the scene exactly what you want to see and basically succumbing to Sidious' lies just like Anakin did. So good job? You'll make a fine Junior Sith Apprentice.
Sith are known for lies and manipulation. Even their truth telling is manipulation. Just look at Dooku. He tells the Jedi what he knows they won't believe just to rub it in their face.
Also you are contradicting yourself. If Sidious looks so ancient twenty years after the Clone Wars does that in any way suggest that he has the secret to extending life after death or that he's decaying? Because looking over 100 years old by ROTJ hardly lends itself as evidence, and in fact provides a solid counterpoint.
In no way does that contradict it. It's not to make yourself look younger, it's to stay alive well past the point at which you'd naturally die of old age. Sidious is keeping himself alive with the Force by that point, the very techniques he tells Anakin about. Fucking idiot. You can stop samefag shitposting any time now.
You further missed the point because Sidious specifically says he could keep others from dying and even points out the irony that he couldn't prevent his own death. Nothing there implies Plagueis knew how to extend his own life, the only thing we know (if we take Sidious's words as fact) is that Plagueis could cheat death within others.
The way I always saw it, Plagueis DID have a way of cheating death but not for himself, which is why Sidious saw no value in that power and never sought to learn it. In Sidious's mind that power is useful only if he can grant himself immortality, and being able to extend the lives of other people or prevent their deaths is useless to him because he has nobody he needs to keep alive, everyone is expendable and replaceable to him.
>Plagueis could cheat death within others.
Doesn't sound like a very Sith thing to do, unless they're trying to create some form of unkillable army of Force mutated slaves. But frankly droid armies are probably still easier. The Nightsisters could make zombies out of corpses but it's never made clear this in anyway is the actual awakening of the souls of their dead sisters and not outright making Force puppets form dead bodies. They also didn't save the nightsisters from death. I think in the episode (been awhile since I saw it) the zombies were considered a minor annoyance compared to the pressing need for Grievous to hunt down the head of the Nightsisters who was using the Force to attack him. In that case the zombies unfortunately provided the trail for Grievous to find the source.
Go back and read all my posts you complete fucking retard, all of this started as me refuting the idea that Snoke is Plagueis because it makes no sense given the information and point of the story. You absolute fucking embarrassment, just stop posting.
Maybe Plagueis wanted to be killed to finally become immortal. Isn't it true the Sith can't become ghosts after death, only Jedi can? Well, Plagueis became one.
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>Doesn't sound like a very Sith thing to do, unless they're trying to create some form of unkillable army of Force mutated slaves
I think Plagueis probably did want to use it on himself, but he either couldn't figure out how to do that or there's something in the death cheat trick that makes it impossible to use on oneself.
>The way I always saw it, Plagueis DID have a way of cheating death but not for himself, which is why Sidious saw no value in that power and never sought to learn it.
That doesn't really make much sense, though. That sounds like a step in the right direction, and could even be manipulated to your benefit if you could somehow empower someone else to keep YOU alive using that power even if you can't use it on yourself. Someone you've manipulated or seduced into obsessing over you being immortal or imagine some standard horrific experiment where they hook a Force user up to a machine that forces them to use their powers to preserve your life. That sounds like something the Sith would do.
At the very least if it were true it would mean that Plagueis was close to an answer. However Sidious then kills him and proceeds, despite telling Anakin that it's their #1 goal, to do absolutely nothing about. Not in the movies or the comics or the novels. In fact, it's telling that this plot point is dropped once Anakin is turned into Vader. Because Vader has already lost everyone he would have cared to save, thus the lie and manipulation was no longer needed. All that Vader had left was dominating the galaxy and bending it to his will, the way he felt it should have been done all the way back in AOTCs.
>However Sidious then kills him and proceeds, despite telling Anakin that it's their #1 goal, to do absolutely nothing about. Not in the movies or the comics or the novels.
Actually, current canon has been pretty clear that finding the secret to immortality is Sidious's number one objective and spends almost all of his free time researching that.
Can a girl Jedi make his Padawan have sexy time with her?
This whole "save someone from death" is a plot point that only shows up in Episode III while being conveniently the only thing that could convince Anakin to betray his friends and Order, and it's dropped after Episode III.
Qui-Gon said there are no coincidences with the Force, but at the same time there is nothing that ever suggested the secret was real. Sheev even contradicts himself, telling Anakin that he has the power to save the one Anakin loves to make him attack Windu and then afterward showing he doesn't actually have that power and that it's a secret they can find together. It was just a way to seduce Anakin and a lever to make him obey Sheev's will. When it's no longer needed anymore the entire plot point is dropped.
The Tarkin novel explicitly says that Sheev is obsessed with finding that secret, which is why he leaves Mas Amedda and the others to actually manage the Empire so he can spend all of his time trying to figure out how to become immortal.
>Actually, current canon has been pretty clear that finding the secret to immortality is Sidious's number one objective and spends almost all of his free time researching that.
In what? The only time it may have come into play with Doctor Cylo's memory imprint technology on duplicate bodies neither Sidious nor Vader show any interest in the technology for live preservation. Hell, making a copy of themselves after the die probably wouldn't be of any interest to Sheev because it would be the copy that survives, not his true self. In the EU it was his own "soul" inhabiting clone bodies, but that isn't how Cylo's technology works.
>The ancient edifice known as Maz’s castle sits on the shore of a lake on Takodana, a site rumored to have been a battleground for the Jedi and Sith.
So as far as I can see this is the basic wing setup for our new yellow TIE Fighter in the trailer.
True, its value is mostly in using it as bait for Anakin, but part of Sidious's MO is using half-truths and not always blatantly lying. That's why I theorized that Plagueis may have come up with something and Sidious might be somewhat truthful about it. This is a way of reconciling the idea that Plagueis learned something, but then Sidious didn't also learn it from him. If he saw no value in the technique, he wouldn't give a damn, but the knowledge that such a thing was possible ended up proving useful in luring his golden boy to his side.
As far as why it's dropped after Episode 3 (which is only partially true since the novels have shown Sidious still trying to figure out how to cheat death, at least for himself), it's a bit of a moot point since after Padme dies, Anakin loses interest in figuring out how to stop others from dying because he now has nobody he'd want to use that power on anyway.