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Unpopular opinion/shit taste thread

>DC has the best line-up of ongoings it's had in more than a decade. Which will probably come to an end soon.
>I've enjoyed all of the MCU films and shows. None of them have been terrible (and very few of them have been great) and I can find something to enjoy in each one.
>Same with the Star Wars movies, the prequels were just 6/10
>JaneThor is a good concept and has great art. It could actually be a good series if it'd stop trying to be political.
>Silk and NuBatgirl are enjoyable series.
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I never really liked Azula.
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>>78826667
Whoa there, buddy

>>78811662
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I think it would be pretty funny if Donald Trump becomes president.
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Teen Titans Go! is super fun and deserves more respect from weirdos like us~
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>>78826751
why did you link to an archived thread?
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>>78827811
I would laugh my ass of from my new house in Canada if that happened.
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>>78827944
Obviously, it wasn't archived when I linked it.
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>I've enjoyed all of the MCU films and shows. None of them have been terrible (and very few of them have been great) and I can find something to enjoy in each one.

This. Also

>Rey isn't a Mary Sue and those who think she is need to look up what the term means and watch the movie again
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I think Green Lantern is easily the most consistently good long-running DC series.
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I ship Scott and Ororo. Wish they become official, only to see reaction of Stormfags.
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>>78827914
I love TTG too. Especially its version of Raven.
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I dislike Danny Phantom mostly because Danny Fenton is an awful protagonist, boring with little personality. Yet every girl wants to fuck him for some reason, i saw this same shit in shows like Tenchi Muyo and Last Exile ( with similarly boring protags who women all want to fuck because they are the protagonist i guess)
Only reason people watch is for the females. Hartman should just make a show with a wide hipped female protag (That way if she is as uninteresting as Fenton was, at least you have fap material) or just draw porn.
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>I like Mabel, even if I prefer her the least among the Pines.

>I want to see LGBT themes explored more regularly in comics/cartoons I know what it's like to be considered weird and an outcast, so I instinctively sympathise with homosexuals

>The Dark Knight is a great film.

>Over the Garden Wall is painfully flawed, despite excellent elements

If you disagree with me that's fine.
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>>78828264
What did you find flawed about it?
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>>78828304

I really didn't like the comedic tone of the dialogue, it felt so out of place with the magnificent autumn mood it set up. It was really grating to just fall in love with an episode from the initial set-up, and then lose it whenever the protagonists, especially Greg, started talking.
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Prequel is shit comic and katia is shit generic looking character
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>>78827811
I kinda want him to win for the keks.

Like, I'm pretty left near center.

But his presidency would be a constant source of entertainment.
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>>78828056
I didn't really like Rey's character, but with a little development, I think she'll be kind of interesting. Especially once the EU is allowed to touch the new era.
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>>78826667
>DC has the best line-up of ongoings it's had in more than a decade.

That's pretty much a fact.
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>>78828264
>The Dark Knight is a great film

That's not even really debated. Even critics sometimes call it one of the top films of the last decade.

Now, if you mean Dark Knight Rises...
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I think DC turning Harley Quinn into their Deadpool is way better than what they were originally doing to her at the start of New 52.
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>>78829352
I should hate Batgirl and Starfire, yet I find myself loving both.
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>>78829419
Lupa is the only reason why I'm liking Starfire so it's a shame she's leaving after this issue.
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Evolution is honestly my favorite incarnation of the X-Men...
I do consider it a guilty pleasure though
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>>78829555
Evolution IS best xman cartoon, anyone who tells you otherwise is wrong
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>>78826667
I really like the current Green Arrow run.
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>>78826667
Grant Morrison's Batman is shit
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>>78829555
Pretty much my favourite version of X-men as well.
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>>78829555

But does Wolverine and the Xmen (an objectively worse show) have the best Nightcrawler? This is a question we must debate.
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it's impossible to make a "mutant" comic like Inhumans or Xmen that isn't total shit
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>>78826726

If this wasn't a safe environment I would call you a fucking moron.
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I think the coloring in Karnak is great, it gets the tone across and has a nice style.
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>>78826667
Lol I was trying to understand you until you said sequels were 6/10

Gg made me reply
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>>78830726
Shut up cat strangler.
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>>78828264

I haven't been participating in Gravity Falls threads in a LONG fucking time, but I feel like the Mabel hate came out of NOWHERE. I remember early threads all about how people wanted to take her to "sweater town" or w/e.
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>>78829419
I don't like Batgirl, but I do enjoy Starfire.

Starfire is a qt and I want to hold her.
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>The Dark Knight is DEEPLY over-rated. People who say Heath Ledger's joker is the best ever while simultaneously claiming Leto's will be shit because it's "SUCH A DEPARTURE" are huge fucking hypocrites.

>People who can't just watch a dumb action movie and enjoy it on those merits are insecure faggots. Trying to apply "DEEP HIDDEN MEANING" to justify your like of cartoons/comics is for children.
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>>78826667
Fairly Odd Parents is better than Danny Phantom and Im glad that one survived.

The show has never been worse than average and recovering from Season 9 is as simple as focusing on Crocker and Dad less.
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People who take cosplay seriously are fucking ridiculous.

Youre playing dress up.
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>>78834030

Define "Serious"? I just dressed up for fun, but wanted it to look like the show.
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Soule's She-Hulk was a strong run, and Pullido's artwork was very fitting and well-crafted. He had a strong sense of narrative flow, nice consistent use of irregular paneling styles, and was able to shift into a delightful pseudo-Kirby for action sequences that really worked well. People who complain about it are the same kind of idiots who think that if a character's face looks a little bit off that the art is garbage.

Saga reads like a middle-schooler who just learned 'Fuck' and can't contain his excitement so he throws it in everywhere. So much of it really screams 'trying too hard' to look mature so that people who've never read comics can feel like they're latched on to something special, rather than something very mundane.

Being a floppy buyer with taste is the most nihilistic place one can occupy in pursuit of a hobby. You have to feel like fucking Atlas propping up good books since they'll invariably sell like shit and always be in danger of cancellation while straight up garbage sells well. It's awful and not worth it at all and the industry needs to change to meet consumer demands and not the other way around.
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>>78834118
People who complain about how others are dress. Where they got their cosplay. Why their cosplay is so much better than whoever. How long it took them to make it vs buying it premade. Complaining about how someone having fun and having a half ass costume makes people who obsessed over the finer things make theirs look bad.

Cosplay is stupid as it is, but dipshits complaining makes it even more dumb.
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Fanart shouldn't be legal to sale.
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Chuck Dixon is a talentless hack and his Robin is the reason I hate Tim Drake.

I never understood what's so special about We3 and why everyone treats it like one of the best Morrison's books ever.

Milligan's Shade the Changing Man > any run on Hellblazer

Chocolate was a better martial arts movie than Raid.
>>78832726
I don't mind dumb action movies as long as they're actually memorable. The problem is, they usually aren't.
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>>78834508
We3 is entirely a vehicle to demonstrate Quitely's fine-tuned mastery over visual storytelling.
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>>78834508
>mfw there are people who consider Dixon's Nightwing to be the pinnacle of Dick and believe DC should just have Dick's book be like that
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>>78834606
>there are people who hate Grayson and think rehashing Dixon Nightwing is the only thing they should ever do with Dick
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>>78834428
It isn't
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I like that cocky bitch America Chavez. I think she would work as a multiverse hopping solo act that rarely comes to the 616.
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>>78834328
> Defending Soule and Pullido
My man.
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>>78829555
Not my favorite xmen but has the best version of certain characters.
Mystique
Jean
Quicksilver
Tabitha Smith( 2nd best now after reading Nextwave)
Scarlet Witch
to name a few.
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I liked old copy of death stroke better than ha ha bi guy deadpool
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>>78830307
Oh it definitely did. That ship episode he was such a badass. Wolverine and the X-men would have been godtier if it was less focused on an amazingly-balanced and mature Logan, while Scott was throwing a hissy fit most of the series. There are some truly stellar episodes.

I love Evolution, though season 1 was shaky trying too hard to be hip (all them exposed boxers)... but I can't pick it or X-men 92 as my favorite, it's too apples and oranges. It'd be like trying to choose a favorite out of BTAS and B:BATB.
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The Timmverse jumped the shark with The New Batman Adventures and was mostly mediocre with a couple of decent episodes here and there, and only kind of recovered with JLU
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>>78834393
Yet we do the same thing about writers and artists here... It's all about what you invest yourself in and how petty/critical you want to be about it.

I do cosplay and yes when I see shitty ones I do laugh a bit, but the ones who are cosplay "celebrities" are pretty effing ridiculous. Soon Yaya Han will charge people to touch her cleavage in one of her intentionally-slutty costumes while simultaneously getting offended that she's being objectified.
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>>78837314
Most people here would agree with you.
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Judd Winick's writing on Jason Todd is mostly mediocre. Grant Morrison is the only person to do anything interesting with the character, and that was by showing everyone what a stupid concept he was. Winick wrote Jason like a fanfic character, and Lobdell went further off the rails
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>>78826667
Gravity Falls feels really randumb to me. I feel like Hirsch wanted to make an animated adult show but couldn't, so he settled for mediocre comedy.
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I liked STAS more than any of Batman's DCAU shows.
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>>78837556
>"effing"
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>>78834393
Thing I hate most about cosplayers is they're always in the fucking way.
Stop trying to take group photos in crowded hallways and booths. No I will not stand there for forever like an idiot waiting on you to take a pic. I will walk through the goddamn shot.
And for the love of god get your 7 foot long foam sword out of my fucking face. Look at where you're pointing that goddamn thing. Chances are if you throw it on your shoulder you're going to hit someone who is walking behind you.
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No matter how well crafted it was, Watchmen was a shitty story with weak characterizations.

The ONLY three comics in history to have reached the heights of other mediums quality wise are Little Annie Fanny, Archie pre-1983, and Carl Barks' Duck comics. Nothing else was ever operating at that level. The next closest is arguably Jack Cole's Plastic Man. And the best of the direct market era is probably Born Again and to a lesser extent the rest of Frank Miller's early works as a writer (namely DKR, Year One, maybe Ronin, and maybe the original DD run). The best of the 21st century are Planetary, Busiek's Conan, and Ennis' Punisher MAX.

The 80s was the best decade for cartoons in terms of characters and content. Animation quality is of secondary importance.

Jem is the overall best kids' cartoon of all time.

Akira is still the pinnacle of animation.

The Silver Age was garbage and never should have happened. The only people who believe otherwise are just romanticizing something that doesn't deserve it, or worse are in love with "camp".

Swamp Thing only works when it's about atmospheric horror. The New 52 version was never better than just OK and all the crap at the end that tried referencing Moore was ill-advised. Even Moore's run stumbled when he tried turning it into a supernatural romance book or a sci-fi comic.

Steve Gerber's Foolkiller is the best attempt at a "what if superheroes were real?" comic in history to this day. Everything else ends up being silly without trying to be. Gerber was the only one who ever understood how much it would destroy a person.

The only Hulk runs worth reading are PAD's and Pak's. There are other STORIES worthy reading, but those were the only consistently quality RUNS. Even World War Hulk was decent.

Mark Waid is a hack with a great Flash run, OK JLA, solid FF, a classic in Kingdom Come, and is otherwise mostly utterly terrible. His next best is actually probably his Legion stuff especially when Supergirl was on the team.
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Image is one of the worst things that ever happened to the industry. They destroyed it commercially with the speculator bullshit and then they destroyed it creatively with the hipster bullshit.

The 80s was the peak decade for comics. Best decade for Marvel, best decade for indies, and probably the best decade for DC except maybe the 2000s.

IDW is the best current publisher in terms of sheer quality. The only thing limiting their appeal is that it's all licensed stuff.

Manga does a few things better than comics, but is overall an inferior medium that has never approached the quality heights of western comics.

Comic art now is worse than it was in the 90s.

The late 2000s was the best period ever for Superman. The 2010s is BY FAR the worst and has yet to produce anything worth reading with the character.

Marvel should stop publishing Punisher and FF and never acknowledge them again. Otherwise they'll just ruin both books like they already have with the rest of their franchises.

John Byrne's Sensational She-Hulk is the best superhero comedy ever and probably the most underrated comic ever. Both of his runs on the title deserve to be considered on par with the best comics of the last 30 years.
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>>78826667
Rick and Morty sucks
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>>78837556
I think people overreacted on Yaya about the make up thign.
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>>78837681
I don't think anyone has ever said otherwise.
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Ninjago is the best action show on CN to date.
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>>78838839
>Comic art now is worse than it was in the 90s.

This. The only reason people don't notice is because coloring has gotten a lot better with computers.
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>>78829298
Dubya is praying for Trump to win so he can go down as the second worst president in history

>muh Nixon

Aside from the Watergate thing, Nixon was bretty ok
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>>78829400
[Agree Strongly]
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>>78839473

>Dubya being anywhere near the worst

James Buchanan says "Hi."
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>>78839473
You're delusional if you believe anything in this post.

But it doesn't matter because it's off topic. Take it to >>>/pol/
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>>78829555
This isn't an unpopular opinion

>>78829663
Neither is this among batfans

Love the man's Superman. He needs to be kept away from Gotham with a restraining order and a flamethrower
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I like Young Justice season 2 more than the first. I see it's flaws but I still enjoy it more than the first. Not really sure why everyone considers it to be so much worse. Tim and Superboy are not just tolerable but actually enjoyable characters now
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>>78839564
>Neither is this among batfans
Not sure if retarded or delusional. Taste aside, it's an unpopular opinion.
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The nuhumans have been mostly great.
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>>78839601
whoops I meant Dick

tim is okay
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>>78826667
The Vision is alright, but vastly overrated. Art is not very good.
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Having a daily thread/general for a show that people claim to only talk about to make fun of it only leads to attracting people who unironically like it and thus turn it into a shitposting thread and waifufaggotry and it should stop
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>>78839525
>created the EPA
>ended the draft
>National Cancer Act
>economic policies that massively lowered the debt
>was trying to get the US universal healthcare years before Obama
>also universal income
>desegregation
>but MUH WATERGATE

If Nixon was around today he'd be decried for being insanely LIBERAL.
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>>78826667
Superman should get his trunks back
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>>78839507
>Not Andrew Jackson, the slaughterer of Indians and the man who nearly destroyed the country's economy because of his hatred of the national bank.
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>>78840554

Buchanan literally lost half the country. Whatever Jackson's morals, he kept the U.S one entity.
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>>78840554
>Hating on Andrew "Cane the Assassin" Jackson
What are you? A commie faggot?
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I have a special place in my heart for Quack Pack. I enjoy every minute of it's overly cheesy, pandering '90s goodness.
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Marvel hasn't gone full SJW, and it's two big failures in that department were Silk and Whor. The rest is tolerable.
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>>78826667
i dont think star vs the forces of evil fanfiction is good ennough to be enjoyed
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>>78826667
>Steven Universe has better comedy than Gravity Falls, though neither are particularly funny
>All Transformers media is shit with the exception of Beast Wars
>the MCU is pretty good, I've enjoyed every film on some level
>I like the noodle arm "tumblr" style
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>>78841058
the comedy in SU is in the characters
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>>78829400
Where were they taking her at the start of nu52?
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>>78826667
I honestly hate most superheroes. Every comic book writer seems to be playing the powerlevel game: more concerned of how OP their characters are than they are about the plot, characters or themes presented in their narrative.

Not only that, but they make their characters so ridiculously perfect, as well. Take for example Tony Stark: not only can he can build powered exoskeletons that can go toe-to-toe with the Hulk and Thor, literal godlike beings, but he's so intelligent that only other impossibly intelligent people can compete with him. The man alone can advance the technological development of humanity, if he truly wanted to, but can't because the plot won't allow it.

Everything is ridiculous in comics because low-level, more realistic characters share the same setting with beings who are literally godlike and larger than life that they must also reach a level of near or above superhuman levels.

It is like how Batman and Lex Luthor have to be the superhuman geniuses of the world because otherwise they wouldn't even come close to helping or challenging the Man of Steel.

Mainstream comics almost sounds like a really horrible fanfic that writers want to put their fetishes, political bias messages, or self-inserts into now.
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>>78841383
>Mainstream comics almost sounds like a really horrible fanfic that writers want to put their fetishes, political bias messages, or self-inserts into now.
the thread is UNPOPULAR opinions. not FACTS
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I cried throughout the good dinosaur and it has been the only pixar movie to make me cry. that and I fairly enjoyed the good dinosaur, i thought it was a good movie.
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>>78841500
don't be butthurt >>78841383 he has a point
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Homestuck really isn't that horrible aside from its sperglord fanbase
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>>78841584
>>78841500
I was agreeing with him.
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I like Legend of Korra, as a whole, more than AtLA
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>>78841383
Tony Stark is able to:
>Create an anti-magical suit. No explanation of how this is accomplished.
>Figured out how to counter Spider-Man's Spider-Sense, no reason is given.
>Designed an armor composed of metamaterial to confront Magneto without comprising its durability, strength or other functions. Stark managed to defeat one of the most powerful mutants in the Marvel Universe.
>Developed the Endo-Sym: a cybernetically-augmented symbiote better than the original, being Immune to sonic attacks and having a psionic bond with it, all while still retaining the same functions as his previous designs.
>Tony oldest suits are decades, if not centuries, ahead of the rest of humanity. Keep in mind, these “outdated” suits can lift 100+ tons, move faster than Mach speed, survive nuclear explosions, and has the destructive power of several nuclear reactors.
>Writers are still not satisfied, continually upgrading this already OP character. Tony is not only given cybernetic implants, but is injected with the extremis virus, making him stronger than Captain America, and can defeat the Daredevil without needing to suit up. Stark can rival superhumans without even wearing his suits anymore.

Yet, people still love Stark, even on /co/, even though he's as boring and uninteresting as Superman or the Flash when it comes to real conflict. Tony can easily defeat almost any high level threat if he isn’t written to be stupid or the plot conveniently forgets his capabilities.
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Kevin Smith is the greatest autour of all time.
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>>78842082
I miss the days of modular armor. It was cool without being OP
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>>78844486
Tony Stark is way better as a character when his armour designs are actually grounded and limited to more realistic levels. Not some magical plot device classified as sci-fi but is pretty much magic in all but name. I think that's one of the reasons why I can tolerate Downey's Stark more than I can for 616's Stark. The live-action Iron Man hasn't approach the comic's level of "genius" yet. I even like the fact that he pretty much has to rely on AI for much of the grunt work.
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I think Post-Movie Spongebob is not as bad as everyone says, there are many episodes I find enjoyable
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>>78826667
the "bop" should never have been put in the "bop shoo wop shoo wop"
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New 52 Nightwing was better than Grayson.
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I really dislike Ross' art. Too close to the uncanny valley for me.
On the other hand, I really like Ramos' art. And I really liked Ramos/Slott run on ASM.
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>>78840554
Jackson was doing God's work, son.
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>>78849150
I personally find Grayson to be rather boring and roundabout. But fuck Nightwing's setting and awful rogues all the same.
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>>78841263
Scantily-clad boring generic psychopath.
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>>78840554
>the country's economy because of his hatred of the national bank.
But he was right. In the end, the Federal Reserve did end up destroying the American economy.
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Spider-Gwen's costume is an ugly piece of shit with an atrocious color scheme.
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>>78838839
On the matter of unpopular opinions about She-Hulk.
Louise Simonson's She-Hulk > Byrne's She-Hulk.
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>>78828108
that show is painful to watch. And the only time I've ever watched it is while babysitting a 9 year old.
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>>78832641
There was always some derision toward her undeserved status of moral centre of the show, but last few episodes were straws that broke camel's back.
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This is going to get me into some shit, but I think Brave is actually a worse movie than Cars 2.

Cars 2 is complete crap, don't get me wrong, but Merida is so goddamn useless as a protagonist that I actually have to give Mater more credit for actually buckling down and getting shit done.
Mater at least fucking contributes, grows a little as a character, solves the problem and saves the day.
Merida does none of those things. She constantly needs others to bail her out, refuses to take any responsibility for anything, doesn't learn jack fuck or changes in any meaningful way, and doesn't even defeat the fucking villain. All of her contributions to the plot are negative and both nearly started a four way war and almost got everyone killed. Mater's only crime was he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Plus, Brave is so fucking boring. Cars 2's plot may be retarded as fuck, but at least shit HAPPENS. Brave is a dumb cunt and a cartoon bear fucking around in the woods.

I'm not saying Cars 2 is a BETTER movie than Brave. It's not. It's a less crappy movie. It's basically comparing shit to diarrhea. But if I had to rank a worst Pixar movie, Brave wins the crown.
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>>78827914
>>78828108
These. TTG! is actually fun and funny. It kinda sucks that DC Nation got cancelled and all, and I guess a 'real' continuation of the TT show would be fantastic, but TTG! is great. I love how it just doesn't give a fuck and it's nice seeing a different side of all the characters.

>>78828264
People hate Mabel? She's my favorite character in that show, although I haven't watched it in a while. I should really get on that.

Other opinions of mine:
>Danny Phantom wasn't that good most of the time and that's coming from someone who was super hyped to watch it.
>Kim Possible was almost always shit outside of A Sitch in Time.
>Comic books > manga
>Steven Universe genuinely has the potential to be one of the greatest cartoons of all time. It's already better than most cartoons that preceded it.
>A lot of 90's cartoons have aged terribly, like Dexter's Lab and PPG. Still enjoyable but they are a little dated.
>Toy Story 2 and 3 were both overrated to hell.
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Both Teen Titans and TTGo! are obnoxious unwatchable garbage.
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I don't like Gravity Falls.
And it's only because of the constant illuminati references.
I'm not trying to be satirical, I'm not trying to be one of those "10/10 illuminati confirmed" fucknuts, I'm serious.

The constant references to the Illuminati keeps me from enjoying the show.
The only reason Bill was created to give some sort of reason to why the illuminati symbolism was in the show.
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>>78826667
I honestly don't get why so many people, on /co/ and elsewhere, claimed Bing-Bong's death brought them to tears. I can get why Riley's confession hit people, but Bing-Bong was annoying as all hell and his death was about as unpredictable as the sunrise. He was an imaginary friend and the whole story was about moving on from childhood.
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>>78838423
>His next best is actually probably his Legion stuff especially when Supergirl was on the team.
My nigga. I didn't read all of it but Threeboot Legion was actually good.

I don't read enough LoSH actually. But I do like the team and that run in particular was actually really enjoyable.

>>78838839
>Manga does a few things better than comics, but is overall an inferior medium that has never approached the quality heights of western comics.
My nigga. Manga is completely overrated and comic book art is generally superior. Plus I dislike the b&w manga art.

>The late 2000s was the best period ever for Superman.
If we're talking '06-'10, you are spot-on or at least partially right in that it was one of the best eras for Superman. You had Geoff Johns' Action Comics, All-Star Superman, and Final Crisis, all of which were great Superman books.

>The 2010s is BY FAR the worst and has yet to produce anything worth reading with the character.
Kinda disagree with this since we got Morrison's Action Comics and The Multiversity, plus I've been hearing good things about Pak's AC run as well.
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>>78852653
maybe because the general audience of a children's movie would be that of people that would cry easily to that kind of thing.
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Harper Row is a better character than everyone in the Batfamily outside of Dick and Damian.
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>>78852565
Psst. Freemasons aren't the Illuminati.
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>>78826667
I'm ok with all the Adventure Time episodes, even the crappy ones.
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Nothing with a female protagonist has ever been good, let alone great. Women are inherently uninteresting so people should stop trying to push the "female protagonist" bullshit already. They're annoying as side-characters, as protagonists they're unbearable.

Oh, and Alien was garbage and the reason why no one takes horror-movies seriously.
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>>78852831
They're a branch of the illuminati, dipshit.
I have better pictures, too lazy to post.
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>>78826667
Disney-owned Star Wars is shit
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>>78852487
>People hate Mabel? She's my favorite character in that show, although I haven't watched it in a while. I should really get on that.
Few recent episodes didn't really show her in good light.
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>>78838839
No such thing as an inferior medium. Everything has its potential to shine unless it's vidya.

>Otherwise they'll just ruin
You can't ruin Punisher because there's nothing to ruin. He's a shit character through and through and all his stories are juvenile revenge fantasy trash. Yes, that applies to everyone's beloved Ennis too.
By the way the only good things Ennis has done for Marvel were his Fury comics. Fury in general is a much better character with a serious potential for good stories.
Punisher was always shit.
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>>78852880
>Nothing with a female protagonist has ever been good, let alone great. Women are inherently uninteresting so people should stop trying to push the "female protagonist" bullshit already. They're annoying as side-characters, as protagonists they're unbearable.
Don't be talking shit about muh Metroid, boy.

>Oh, and Alien was garbage and the reason why no one takes horror-movies seriously.
You think motherfucking ALIEN is the reason why no one takes horror movies seriously, and not the shlock that makes up the vast majority of horror movies? Sturgeon's Law applies more to the horror movie genre than anything else, considering how cheap and easy it is to make horror movies, not to mention some trappings of the genre. Only natural then that the vast majority of horror movies, even more so than other genres, would be shit.

Alien, on the other hand, stands out as one of the greatest sci-fi and horror movies ever made. Most people think so, buddy.
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>Everything has its potential to shine unless it's vidya.
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>>78853214
>He thinks anything other then a novel can be good
Even novels are not good to be honest
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>>78853270
Metroid is shit. Deal with it.
>shlock that makes up the vast majority of horror movies
I don't fucking see how Alien is any different from say Friday the 13th shitty flicks, except for higher production values. Same bad writing, same lame attempts at being scary, same one-dimensional characters you feel nothing for, same shitty monster. The only reason it's still remembered is because feminists latched onto it because MUH STRONG WOMYN despite Ripley having no memorable personality whatsoever.

Carpenter's The Thing was what Alien should have been.
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Beast under his cat or Bendis forms makes him a cutie for me to ignore the shit he's done.
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>>78853435
>Metroid is shit. Deal with it.
Pic related.

>>78853435
>I don't fucking see how Alien is any different from say Friday the 13th shitty flicks, except for higher production values. Same bad writing, same lame attempts at being scary, same one-dimensional characters you feel nothing for, same shitty monster. The only reason it's still remembered is because feminists latched onto it because MUH STRONG WOMYN despite Ripley having no memorable personality whatsoever.
Seriously?

Not the stellar art direction and visual direction, not the deliberate pace of the first third of the movie, not the part where they touch down on LV-426, which contribute to the movie's mood and atmosphere? Not the fascinating sci-fi world that it builds up with the androids, all the futuristic technology, the Space Jockeys, and the aliens themselves? Ripley's just the cherry on top and the cast was more memorable and likable than most other horror movies. The setup of Alien is a thousand times more interesting than most other horror movies.
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>>78853621
>mood and atmosphere
There was none.
>fascinating sci-fi world
Where? All I see is generic sci-fi cliches everyone seen billions of times before.
>cast was more memorable and likable
Stop lying.
>The setup of Alien is a thousand times more interesting than most other horror movies.
Oh, please. It's Jason X-tier.
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>>78853797
This is bait.
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>>78853852
Nah, the entire Alien franchise is just shit. Too bad people are idiots and hold Alien and Nightmare on Elm Street as horror masterpieces which is why no one sensible takes the genre seriously.
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>>78853936
>Nah, the entire Alien franchise is just shit. Too bad people are idiots and hold Alien and Nightmare on Elm Street as horror masterpieces which is why no one sensible takes the genre seriously.
As opposed to what?

Like, out of an entire genre of mostly fucking shit, the few movies in that genre to not actually suck are somehow the reason why the genre is shit? What the fuck do you like then?
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>>78853936
Nightmare on Elm street was only good the first time, and that's because of the idea behind it, which is why Alien is so fantastic.

What plebs like you, my sister, and her snapback-tier boyfriend seem to fail to appreciate is that if you don't, to an extent, imagine yourself in the movie or the situation in question, you're gonna think it's dumb because it's like someone describing a dream to you. NoES is based because being unable to sleep for fear of being in an inescapable sewer or whatever with a fedorafag that nobody else believes in is a damn scary situation. Alien is great horror because of a similar situation, except it's even worse: you're being hunted, you don't know what this thing looks like (til close to the end), the android tasked with protecting you is ALSO out to kill you, most of your friends have been fukt, and to top it off if you try to leave the ship (which seems to be the ideal hunting ground for this thing) you find yourself floating through space. If you use conventional weapons to kill it, it'll burn through the one thing keeping you from floating through space, or your shots will tear a hole in the hull with the same effect.
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>>78854174
As opposed to The Thing, many of Hitchcock's movies and Eraserhead.
>are somehow the reason why the genre is shit
Yes, because they're no different from all the shitty horror movies yet lauded as something good.
>to not actually suck
Kek.
>>78854278
>y-you just have to imagine yourself being there
Fuck off. That doesn't make the movie scary. Because guess what, you're not fucking there. You will never be there so there's nothing to be afraid of.
The Thing at least does its best to instill the sense of paranoia and a feeling of getting lost into you because Carpenter is a good film-maker. Cameron and Hack Craven who never made a single good film in his life are incapable of that.

NoES is scary only to retarded kids. Blame Craven for not being able to make it good. Then again, it's silly to expect much from Whedon of horror movies.
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>>78826667
If there's a Japanese dub of a cartoon with English subtitles for a cartoon I'm watching, I would choose that over the English dub. Japanese VAs are just better, even its dubbed on Western cartoon or video game.
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>>78854667
>listening to dubs
I just turn the volume off, read the subs and have some music played in the background. Fuck human voices unless they're vocals. I can't stand them, they're annoying.
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>>78854556
Well hey man, to use your borderline autistic, "i skimmed and threw together a strawman really quickly" logic, you will never be in a room full of people that could be an alien, either :^)))
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>>78853936
Alien the original is great in terms of set design, framing, and practical effects, and builds suspense well I don't see what there is to hate about it.
>>78854556
John Carpenter isn't that great, I mean not when compared to guys like Cronenberg.
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Monty Oum was a shit animator and every single fight scene he's made is overdone to the point of boredom. He spends so much time making the characters ninja flip and snatch rockets out of the air when they should just be fucking fighting. It's like the idea of characters slugging it out in an actual fight without jumping and dancing at a million miles an hour was alien to him.
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>>78854865
>Alien
>suspense
There is absolutely no suspense in the whole movie.
The other things are irrelevant. They are not even that great and all they do is show that the movie has higher budget than an average slasher flick.

>Cronenberg
>horror
You went full retard.

>>78854807
>LE AUTISTIC XD
Of course a faggot like you would defend a mediocrity like Wes Craven.
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>>78854970
>Videodrome
>The Brood
>Not Horror
Oh and what is horror mister horror master, Strangers on a Train? Rope? Vertigo? Also the set designs and effects on Alien are that great, I don't give a shit who you think you are but they did an amazing job bringing concept art from guys like H.R Geiger and Moebius to life.
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>>78854970
>defending Alien and only mentioning NoES like once
>"ur defendin the guy i dun liek..."
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>>78855151
>Videodrome
>horror
I thought that's just mediocre sci-fi like The Scanners.

I admit forgetting The Brood and The Fly, though. Those were legit good horror movies.
>H.R Geiger and Moebius
Nigger please. The movie wishes it looked half as pretty as the art of those guys.
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>>78829555
That was such a fucking good show.
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>>78841647
Never seen LoK but I never found AtlA all that good.
To me it's nothing but generic fantasy setting, dull characters, generic bad guy and ugly anime-esque art-style style.
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>>78855263
Videodrome is obviously a body horror piece. Like I don't get how you could miss that. Also it's just Scanners. You also ignored the fact that I was calling you out on listing "many of Hitchcock's movies" as horror you like when most of what he did were thrillers and not horror movies. I mean you got the Birds, Psycho, and maybe Rear Window. The rest are mostly black comedies and crime stories.
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None of live-action superhero shows is even remotely good.
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>>78856253
Nothing is good. Nothing at all.
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>>78856261
Nothing matters.
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Rick and morty is not funny, has never been funny and never will be funny.

It doesn't even have jokes, it's just unfunny riffing.

It's like the shitty filler from monty python but made into a cartoon.
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I still think /co/ is love, and disagree that it was "never love" or "good".
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>>78856293
This. Same for Bojack.
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>>78856305
Good is an illusion and so are pants.
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>>78853435
Dude, feminists didn't give a fuck about Alien back then. Or movies in general for the most part.
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Not /co/, but I never liked Buffy.
It felt too smug, always trying to look more clever than it actually is.
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>>78856305
Then you are a fool.
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>>78826726
Azula is an extremely over rated character

>TLoK>Atla and it is not even close
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>>78838423
>The Silver Age was garbage and never should have happened.
>An entire 20 years of history should have just never happened
You can't actually mean that. The reinvention of The Flash, Green Lantern, Hawkman, The Atom, and the Justice League never should have happened? The entire Marvel Universe never should have happened?
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Depeche Mode peaked with Speak & Spell and never achieved that level of goodness again.
Wait, wrong board.
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>>78852268
this

Mabel being unable to do wrong, or suffer their consequences, was always odd

When dipper was somehow in the wrong for trying to be confident with girls it felt way to hamfisted

When Mabel explicitly replaced her brother with a fucking 90's cliche, and refused to escape the open bubble, at literally EVERYONE ELSE'S EXPENSE, physically and mentaly etc, just because she didn't want dipper to grow up and away from her, and then he even promised to not do the one thing he wants, just to save everyone else, Everything peeled away and her pure evil showed
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>>78856358
This is what happens when you watch Joss Wheadon.

I didn't actually watch Buffy. But I watched Firefly and it was kinda bad.
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>>78856582
>When Mabel explicitly replaced her brother with a fucking 90's cliche
Yeah, that was really bad. Like, I could forgive her for throwing fit about thinking her brother is leaving because she loves him, but turned out she doesn't even love anything about him.
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Morrison's Jason Todd was not that different from Winick's, except that he was actually more likable and a better person.

Rucka's Wonder Woman was boring.

Brubaker's characterization of Catwoman was insufferable, although the characters around her were okay.
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>>78856598
She doesn't care about her brother
She doesn't care about her gruncles
She doesn't care about her town friends

She literaly knows that the world is false and at EVERYONE ELSE'S EXPENSE

Weirdmageddon Part1 literally makes Mable unforgivable tier
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>>78833823
I hate how aggressively unfunny they made Dad and Crocker in new FOP. They went from being the best characters on the show into Cheese-tier annoyances.
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>>78826667
I really hate regular show.
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>Most people on /co/ nit-pick shows too much, beyond the point of the actual '/co/' board.
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>>78841647
This.
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>>78856582

I don't even like Mabel, but the circlejerk about her being Satan is pathetic.

Firstly, Dipper regularly gets off with minimal reprisal for his actions which nearly get everyone killed (Summerween, Scary-oke, Dreamscaperers)

But your last paragraph is so wrong I have to break it down.

>Replaced her brother

Flat wrong. She fought for him stay, even as the Bubble wanted him to leave. She had a version of Dipper there because Dipper was not, and no sibling will ever regard the other as so perfect they want them exactly the same.

>She didn't want Dipper to grow up

This is so completely wrong it's laughable. Dipper's main character flaw is that he wants to skip the growing up portion of his life and just land at adult with no fuss. So he wants to abandon school at 13 and his family too? To do something he never indicated before the episode that he wanted to do? You know how I know she cares about him? Because when they show the flashbacks, she considers DIPPER'S bad day enough reason for her and brother to stay in the Bubble. If she didn't care, she wouldn't have played that memory.

>the one thing he wants

I'm convinced you haven't watched this show. Dipper has already explained that he wants to go to school and do a ghost show. He has NEVER indicated he wanted to live in GF, and has repeatedly said things to the contrary. Dipper realises what he does want is not to have his personality defined by Ford's projection. The only way he can fulfill the ghost show is if he goes with his sister to school. And he's not faking it either, seeing as MABEL TELLS HIM IT'S OKAY TO STAY IN GF WITH FORD, and he still says no.

Also, it's highly implied that she was under some form of hypnotic spell by the Bubble, considering that once she loses control over it, she immediately feels groggy, and has no idea what happened.

So yes, the Mabel hatred here is so over the top it borders on parody.
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>>78826667
>DC has the best line-up of ongoings it's had in more than a decade

I'm like one of the 3 or so people who really enjoyed and looked forward to Doomed. Shame it's canceled, but at least there's still Teen Titans for me, which I also enjoy. A pity about poor Roman, though. He and Reiser were such close buds, but he's now trapped in his own body and who knows if he'll ever get free, or if his and Reiser's misunderstanding will ever be resolved now that their own book has ended. :(

I really enjoy Cyborg and look forward to its next issues. I don't agree with the general notion here that it's "boring" or whatever, and I appreciate the introspection given to Victor throughout the first arc. He went from being self-conscious about being a cyborg to being worried about how people would see him now that he has the power to turn himself completely human and back. I also look forward to Sebastian and Bobby's roles in the future, especially the latter, who know seems to have ended up with the same powers as Cyborg currently does.
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>>78854556
Hitchcock was more of Thrillers then horror, despite dabbling in both and being closely linked
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>>78860260
>>Replaced her brother
>Flat wrong. She fought for him stay, even as the Bubble wanted him to leave. She had a version of Dipper there because Dipper was not, and no sibling will ever regard the other as so perfect they want them exactly the same.
You'd think fictional Dipper would be a little bit similar then, but no. He's completely different. There's not a single trait in Dipper that Mabel appears to like.
>>She didn't want Dipper to grow up
>This is so completely wrong it's laughable. Blah-blah-blah
He wanted to study supernatural. And here it is. His big chance. It doesn't mean apprenticeship is good for him, no. But it's not even part of the equasion. Mabel wants Dipper to be with her, not even considering what is good for HIM. Mabel has very poor understanding that other people are not her playthings.
>>the one thing he wants
>I'm convinced you haven't watched this show. blah-blah-blah
While it's nice of her to be so charitable (AFTER IT STOPPED MATTERING) this moment was a strange non-sequitor considering that she successfully held Dipper hostage and make him do what she wants she decided that he's allowed to have his own thing. He won't have it obviously. Mabel gets what she wants.

And lastly
>Firstly, Dipper regularly gets off with minimal reprisal for his actions which nearly get everyone killed (Summerween, Scary-oke, Dreamscaperers)
This is true. But there's always a condemnation of his action in story. And he never does it in attempt to engage in something that is immoral to begin with.
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I really didn't want Peter Parker to die and despite the sharing of memories and feelings, despite the promise of being a better Spider Man, that is still Doc Ock in his body. Spider Man still died at the hands of a villain. Nothing can change that fact. What was it all for then? I wish it hadn't ended like this. Would Uncle Ben be okay with it?

Captain America died like a pig. Of all the ways to be taken out, I would have least expected sniper fire to take down a hero of his magnitude.

The Superior Iron Man was a decent concept but had a shit ending and meh tier plot.
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>>78857212
>>Most people on /co/ nit-pick shows too much, beyond the point of the actual '/co/' board.

I agree. Shame about this, really. Even in a thread like this that is meant to be "safe place", there far too many examples, especially the father down the page you go.
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>>78860578

If you don't think that Mabel doesn't genuinely love her brother, you have crippling autism. I don't particularly like any of my brother's character traits either, but guess what? I still love him to death. And Mabel has admitted she appreciates his intelligence and being all-around nice and accepting.

The Supernatural will always be there, but his youth will not. He's only a kid for a short time, and Mabel has to keep reminding of this, and the show keeps reminding it's viewers of this. Yes, when Mabel was at an emotional weak point, having lost nearly everything in her life, friends, hope for the future, her pet soon to follow, she was desperate for the most important person in her life not to leave her. Any child would do the same, I did the same with my mother when I was scared, and asked her to help me through a trying time. He can always come back to GF, but the crucial life experiences of growing up at school WILL NOT.

And no it didn't stop mattering. Dipper could still have accepted the apprenticeship. Dipper DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT when he stopped and thought about it, so why are you blaming Mabel for him not doing it?

Dipper raises the dead because he wants to feel special. He sends the Trickster loose on everyone because he wants to try and stand around a party and do nothing. He dithers on letting a child see his family again because he wants to sit beside Wendy at a pool. He bullies someone to fit in a friend-group.

For Gods sake, she don't particularly like her, but Hitler she is not.
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>>78838423
>Animation quality is of secondary importance.


Stiff animation wasn't the only problem in the 80's.
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>>78860865
>I don't particularly like any of my brother's character traits either, but guess what? I still love him to death
Do you throw a hissy fit every time he wants to do his own thing though?

I'm sick of seeing worthless leech like Mabel being put on pedestal and Dipper's life being molded around her. Not even story of Stan, another person whose worthlessness and entitlement ruined his life deterred Mabel from this path. "Is it a good idea to spend my life with Ford" was never a question Dipper pondered, it was "What about Mabel's entitlement?"
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>>78861111

Nor does Mabel. You're just picking one instance when she was at an emotional weak-point for something that Dipper didn't ultimately want to do. And yes, when I was having a bad day, I did get unreasonably angry with my brother. The rest of Dipper's "sacrifices" are from a neutral perspective, the right thing to do (saving the pig, letting a child meet his family, etc.)

I don't think you appreciate what an extraverted sibling can do for an Introvert. Not only has Mabel saved Dipper an equal amount of times as vice-versa (6 each) but she's genuinely helped him too, for example, by pushing him to talk it out with Wendy, and finally concluding that never-ending arc. Mabel gives Dipper a confidence push in social situations that my brother did for me, and for which I will always be thankful for. She is there when he's at his low points (Valentine's), and they share experiences together, and clearly enjoy playing together. That's not selfishness, that's love.

Dipper doesn't take it because he realises it's just like the Bubble; a fantasy that shuts him off from the rest of the world, and away from the pain of life and growing up. Those are his words. It has nothing to do with "I've got to make Mabel happy." That's your interpretation.
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>>78856306
I actually agree that Bojack isn't that funny but I watched and loved the show for other reasons, namely the drama, character development, and character interactions. It's a pretty great character study but I'd be lying if I said that I found it hilarious. At best it's humorous at times.

Also Todd sucks. People hate on Diane, but there is nothing wrong with Diane. Todd on the other hand is a pointless waste of a character with nothing to contribute to the show. He's never been funny either.
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>>78861345
>by pushing him to talk it out with Wendy
This didn't work, mind you. He couldn't talk to her like you would expect from a kid thrown into stressful situation without preparation. Go push hydrophobic people into pools or something, see them drown.
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>>78861706

My parents dragged me to multiple social situations in my life I didn't want to go to. If I didn't, I would never have grown as a person. You need that push to grow socially. She was entirely correct to do so, AND EVEN APOLOGISES FOR MAKING HIM DO IT, while Dipper says it's okay because it was necessary, and he's right.
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>>78861847
I don't remember him saying this, but even if he did, he was wrong. He couldn't talk to her, and he still couldn't until he thought she was dead.

Either way, this is not THE problem with Mabel. THE problem with Mabel is that SHE never has to meet adversity and grow as a person. Starting all the way back to Irrational Treasure every her delusion, selfish antic or immature stupidity was celebrated and validated.
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>>78861960

The entire last episode outright had her main character flaw presented to her (fear of growing up/responsibility) before she realised he was right, and left with him, accepting the responsibility she had. Not only has she grown, she completed her arc, as did Dipper, who realised he shouldn't just skip out on the world as well.
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>>78862117
The last episode was so crappily writing nothing was coherently presented to anyone.

Good case would be to show Mabel that she can't run away forever forever. Instead Dipper reassured that she doesn't have to run away from reality because he will always be her bitch.
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>>78862169

How emotionally damaged are you to think being in a mutually loving, playful, supportive relationship (watch the flashbacks) with two characters who unmistakably cherish each other's interaction makes anyone a bitch? And the implication is that Dipper will be the one leading Mabel, so he would be the opposite of the bitch.
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>>78862413
How much of a battered wife do you need to be to rationalize relationship where one side does whatever the fuck it wants and another apologize every time it goes wrong as loving and supportive?
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>>78862480

No, Mabel does not always get what she wants (the Puppet Show springs to mind)

How can you honestly write the twins closer together? They bail each other out of situations regularly, and have quips with each other while doing it. They are each jealous of the other in some respect (one academically, one socially), but don't let it hold them back. The ending to Carpet Diem perfectly illustrates that they love each other to a degree most siblings do not.

Dipper is not made to constantly apologise, he just frequently does it because he's socially insecure, and it comes naturally. Mabel isn't forcing him to say it, and always says it's no problem.If she was DEMANDING he apologise, then that would be different, but she doesn't.
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>>78862724
>No, Mabel does not always get what she wants (the Puppet Show springs to mind)
Notice how story made sure to devalue her love interest when she couldn't get him. Just so she doesn't have to actually sacrifice anything.

She didn't even bothered to learn that faking hobby to get a boy notice you might be wrong.
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>Batman Begins is OK
>The Dark Knight is borderline unwatchable
>The Dark Knight Rises is so bad it is funny in parts
>Spider-man 1 and 2 are over-rated as fuck
>The best capeshit movies are Iron Man, X-men, and Captain America
>Avengers was shit
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>>78862815

>Just so she doesn't have to actually sacrifice anything.

So, did Wendy saying she was never interested into Dipper undo all his sacrifces? No, because what's important was what the character THOUGHT they were giving up. Doesn't matter what he really was, the point was that Mabel desperately wanted him, put in a shitload of work, and gave it up for her brother's safety.
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>>78863042
No, similar situation would be if Wendy was revealed to be bitch or undesirable in different way. She was not.

She's still desirable. That puppet guy was rendered undesirable.
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The old Teen Titans cartoon handled some things better than the comic it was based on.

STAS was a better series than BTAS.
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>>78863085

Okay, so when he gives up going to the party because he went trick or treating, is the universe bailing him out when it turns out the party sucks?

When he sacrifices the megaphone, is the universe bailing him out because Wendy immediately quits the job?

When Robbie gets Wendy because Dipper throws the ball, is the Universe bailing him out when they broke up?

These all seem like contrivances to award Dipper when he makes an altruistic decision, rather than genuinely sacrificing anything.
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>>78863232
>Okay, so when he gives up going to the party because he went trick or treating, is the universe bailing him out when it turns out the party sucks?
This was hardly relevant because he didn't get to spend time with Wendy anyway
>When he sacrifices the megaphone, is the universe bailing him out because Wendy immediately quits the job?
This was just status quo
>When Robbie gets Wendy because Dipper throws the ball, is the Universe bailing him out when they broke up?
And, well, this was entire story about exposing Robbie's crazy plot.

Ultimately, what Dipper lost was still desirable.
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>>78838839
>Manga does a few things better than comics, but is overall an inferior medium that has never approached the quality heights of western comics.

Except that's wrong you fucking retard. I would put Blade of The Immortal , 20th Century Boys and Akira up against the best comics from the west and they would compare quite favorably, but i doubt you've read any of it. Probably seen a vol of Naruto and now you think you're an expert.

Image comics was trash in the early 90's but in the last decade have been vastly superior to the big two and puts out the best and most creative , creator owned comics. Every thing else is just a load of bullshit that doesn't need even mentioning.

>>78838423
So edgy
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Mystique, or at least Mystique for the last 10 or so years, has always seemed like the laziest option when writers need a villain.
>She can be anyone so they can instantly say the villain was Mystique all along whenever they want
>gets vague power upgrade to be undetectable by Wolverine or psychics so she has super plot shield all the time
>her ideology is the vaguest to justify her being evil from 'I need the money to fund my bigger plans' to 'I do this for the mutants but not the X-Men mutants they don't count fuck those guys even if Magneto sides with them'
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