Unpopular opinion/shit taste thread
>DC has the best line-up of ongoings it's had in more than a decade.
Which will probably come to an end soon.
>I've enjoyed all of the MCU films and shows. None of them have been terrible (and very few of them have been great) and I can find something to enjoy in each one.
Same with the Star Wars movies, the prequels were just 6/10
>JaneThor is a good concept and has great art. It could actually be a good series if it'd stop trying to be political.
>Silk and NuBatgirl are enjoyable series.
>I've enjoyed all of the MCU films and shows. None of them have been terrible (and very few of them have been great) and I can find something to enjoy in each one.
>Rey isn't a Mary Sue and those who think she is need to look up what the term means and watch the movie again
I love TTG too. Especially its version of Raven.
I dislike Danny Phantom mostly because Danny Fenton is an awful protagonist, boring with little personality. Yet every girl wants to fuck him for some reason, i saw this same shit in shows like Tenchi Muyo and Last Exile ( with similarly boring protags who women all want to fuck because they are the protagonist i guess)
Only reason people watch is for the females. Hartman should just make a show with a wide hipped female protag (That way if she is as uninteresting as Fenton was, at least you have fap material) or just draw porn.
>I like Mabel, even if I prefer her the least among the Pines.
>I want to see LGBT themes explored more regularly in comics/cartoons
I know what it's like to be considered weird and an outcast, so I instinctively sympathise with homosexuals
>The Dark Knight is a great film.
>Over the Garden Wall is painfully flawed, despite excellent elements
If you disagree with me
I really didn't like the comedic tone of the dialogue, it felt so out of place with the magnificent autumn mood it set up. It was really grating to just fall in love with an episode from the initial set-up, and then lose it whenever the protagonists, especially Greg, started talking.
I think DC turning Harley Quinn into their Deadpool is way better than what they were originally doing to her at the start of New 52.
Evolution is honestly my favorite incarnation of the X-Men...
I do consider it a guilty pleasure though
Grant Morrison's Batman is shit
I haven't been participating in Gravity Falls threads in a LONG fucking time, but I feel like the Mabel hate came out of NOWHERE. I remember early threads all about how people wanted to take her to "sweater town" or w/e.
>The Dark Knight is DEEPLY over-rated. People who say Heath Ledger's joker is the best ever while simultaneously claiming Leto's will be shit because it's "SUCH A DEPARTURE" are huge fucking hypocrites.
>People who can't just watch a dumb action movie and enjoy it on those merits are insecure faggots. Trying to apply "DEEP HIDDEN MEANING" to justify your like of cartoons/comics is for children.
Fairly Odd Parents is better than Danny Phantom and Im glad that one survived.
The show has never been worse than average and recovering from Season 9 is as simple as focusing on Crocker and Dad less.
People who take cosplay seriously are fucking ridiculous.
Youre playing dress up.
Soule's She-Hulk was a strong run, and Pullido's artwork was very fitting and well-crafted. He had a strong sense of narrative flow, nice consistent use of irregular paneling styles, and was able to shift into a delightful pseudo-Kirby for action sequences that really worked well. People who complain about it are the same kind of idiots who think that if a character's face looks a little bit off that the art is garbage.
Saga reads like a middle-schooler who just learned 'Fuck' and can't contain his excitement so he throws it in everywhere. So much of it really screams 'trying too hard' to look mature so that people who've never read comics can feel like they're latched on to something special, rather than something very mundane.
Being a floppy buyer with taste is the most nihilistic place one can occupy in pursuit of a hobby. You have to feel like fucking Atlas propping up good books since they'll invariably sell like shit and always be in danger of cancellation while straight up garbage sells well. It's awful and not worth it at all and the industry needs to change to meet consumer demands and not the other way around.
People who complain about how others are dress. Where they got their cosplay. Why their cosplay is so much better than whoever. How long it took them to make it vs buying it premade. Complaining about how someone having fun and having a half ass costume makes people who obsessed over the finer things make theirs look bad.
Cosplay is stupid as it is, but dipshits complaining makes it even more dumb.
Chuck Dixon is a talentless hack and his Robin is the reason I hate Tim Drake.
I never understood what's so special about We3 and why everyone treats it like one of the best Morrison's books ever.
Milligan's Shade the Changing Man > any run on Hellblazer
Chocolate was a better martial arts movie than Raid.
I don't mind dumb action movies as long as they're actually memorable. The problem is, they usually aren't.
>there are people who hate Grayson and think rehashing Dixon Nightwing is the only thing they should ever do with Dick
Oh it definitely did. That ship episode he was such a badass. Wolverine and the X-men would have been godtier if it was less focused on an amazingly-balanced and mature Logan, while Scott was throwing a hissy fit most of the series. There are some truly stellar episodes.
I love Evolution, though season 1 was shaky trying too hard to be hip (all them exposed boxers)... but I can't pick it or X-men 92 as my favorite, it's too apples and oranges. It'd be like trying to choose a favorite out of BTAS and B:BATB.
Yet we do the same thing about writers and artists here... It's all about what you invest yourself in and how petty/critical you want to be about it.
I do cosplay and yes when I see shitty ones I do laugh a bit, but the ones who are cosplay "celebrities" are pretty effing ridiculous. Soon Yaya Han will charge people to touch her cleavage in one of her intentionally-slutty costumes while simultaneously getting offended that she's being objectified.
Judd Winick's writing on Jason Todd is mostly mediocre. Grant Morrison is the only person to do anything interesting with the character, and that was by showing everyone what a stupid concept he was. Winick wrote Jason like a fanfic character, and Lobdell went further off the rails
Thing I hate most about cosplayers is they're always in the fucking way.
Stop trying to take group photos in crowded hallways and booths. No I will not stand there for forever like an idiot waiting on you to take a pic. I will walk through the goddamn shot.
And for the love of god get your 7 foot long foam sword out of my fucking face. Look at where you're pointing that goddamn thing. Chances are if you throw it on your shoulder you're going to hit someone who is walking behind you.
No matter how well crafted it was, Watchmen was a shitty story with weak characterizations.
The ONLY three comics in history to have reached the heights of other mediums quality wise are Little Annie Fanny, Archie pre-1983, and Carl Barks' Duck comics. Nothing else was ever operating at that level. The next closest is arguably Jack Cole's Plastic Man. And the best of the direct market era is probably Born Again and to a lesser extent the rest of Frank Miller's early works as a writer (namely DKR, Year One, maybe Ronin, and maybe the original DD run). The best of the 21st century are Planetary, Busiek's Conan, and Ennis' Punisher MAX.
The 80s was the best decade for cartoons in terms of characters and content. Animation quality is of secondary importance.
Jem is the overall best kids' cartoon of all time.
Akira is still the pinnacle of animation.
The Silver Age was garbage and never should have happened. The only people who believe otherwise are just romanticizing something that doesn't deserve it, or worse are in love with "camp".
Swamp Thing only works when it's about atmospheric horror. The New 52 version was never better than just OK and all the crap at the end that tried referencing Moore was ill-advised. Even Moore's run stumbled when he tried turning it into a supernatural romance book or a sci-fi comic.
Steve Gerber's Foolkiller is the best attempt at a "what if superheroes were real?" comic in history to this day. Everything else ends up being silly without trying to be. Gerber was the only one who ever understood how much it would destroy a person.
The only Hulk runs worth reading are PAD's and Pak's. There are other STORIES worthy reading, but those were the only consistently quality RUNS. Even World War Hulk was decent.
Mark Waid is a hack with a great Flash run, OK JLA, solid FF, a classic in Kingdom Come, and is otherwise mostly utterly terrible. His next best is actually probably his Legion stuff especially when Supergirl was on the team.
Image is one of the worst things that ever happened to the industry. They destroyed it commercially with the speculator bullshit and then they destroyed it creatively with the hipster bullshit.
The 80s was the peak decade for comics. Best decade for Marvel, best decade for indies, and probably the best decade for DC except maybe the 2000s.
IDW is the best current publisher in terms of sheer quality. The only thing limiting their appeal is that it's all licensed stuff.
Manga does a few things better than comics, but is overall an inferior medium that has never approached the quality heights of western comics.
Comic art now is worse than it was in the 90s.
The late 2000s was the best period ever for Superman. The 2010s is BY FAR the worst and has yet to produce anything worth reading with the character.
Marvel should stop publishing Punisher and FF and never acknowledge them again. Otherwise they'll just ruin both books like they already have with the rest of their franchises.
John Byrne's Sensational She-Hulk is the best superhero comedy ever and probably the most underrated comic ever. Both of his runs on the title deserve to be considered on par with the best comics of the last 30 years.
I like Young Justice season 2 more than the first. I see it's flaws but I still enjoy it more than the first. Not really sure why everyone considers it to be so much worse. Tim and Superboy are not just tolerable but actually enjoyable characters now
Having a daily thread/general for a show that people claim to only talk about to make fun of it only leads to attracting people who unironically like it and thus turn it into a shitposting thread and waifufaggotry and it should stop
>created the EPA
>ended the draft
>National Cancer Act
>economic policies that massively lowered the debt
>was trying to get the US universal healthcare years before Obama
>also universal income
>but MUH WATERGATE
If Nixon was around today he'd be decried for being insanely LIBERAL.
I have a special place in my heart for Quack Pack. I enjoy every minute of it's overly cheesy, pandering '90s goodness.
>Steven Universe has better comedy than Gravity Falls, though neither are particularly funny
>All Transformers media is shit with the exception of Beast Wars
>the MCU is pretty good, I've enjoyed every film on some level
>I like the noodle arm "tumblr" style
I honestly hate most superheroes. Every comic book writer seems to be playing the powerlevel game: more concerned of how OP their characters are than they are about the plot, characters or themes presented in their narrative.
Not only that, but they make their characters so ridiculously perfect, as well. Take for example Tony Stark: not only can he can build powered exoskeletons that can go toe-to-toe with the Hulk and Thor, literal godlike beings, but he's so intelligent that only other impossibly intelligent people can compete with him. The man alone can advance the technological development of humanity, if he truly wanted to, but can't because the plot won't allow it.
Everything is ridiculous in comics because low-level, more realistic characters share the same setting with beings who are literally godlike and larger than life that they must also reach a level of near or above superhuman levels.
It is like how Batman and Lex Luthor have to be the superhuman geniuses of the world because otherwise they wouldn't even come close to helping or challenging the Man of Steel.
Mainstream comics almost sounds like a really horrible fanfic that writers want to put their fetishes, political bias messages, or self-inserts into now.
>Mainstream comics almost sounds like a really horrible fanfic that writers want to put their fetishes, political bias messages, or self-inserts into now.
the thread is UNPOPULAR opinions. not FACTS
Homestuck really isn't that horrible aside from its sperglord fanbase
Tony Stark is able to:
>Create an anti-magical suit. No explanation of how this is accomplished.
>Figured out how to counter Spider-Man's Spider-Sense, no reason is given.
>Designed an armor composed of metamaterial to confront Magneto without comprising its durability, strength or other functions. Stark managed to defeat one of the most powerful mutants in the Marvel Universe.
>Developed the Endo-Sym: a cybernetically-augmented symbiote better than the original, being Immune to sonic attacks and having a psionic bond with it, all while still retaining the same functions as his previous designs.
>Tony oldest suits are decades, if not centuries, ahead of the rest of humanity. Keep in mind, these “outdated” suits can lift 100+ tons, move faster than Mach speed, survive nuclear explosions, and has the destructive power of several nuclear reactors.
>Writers are still not satisfied, continually upgrading this already OP character. Tony is not only given cybernetic implants, but is injected with the extremis virus, making him stronger than Captain America, and can defeat the Daredevil without needing to suit up. Stark can rival superhumans without even wearing his suits anymore.
Yet, people still love Stark, even on /co/, even though he's as boring and uninteresting as Superman or the Flash when it comes to real conflict. Tony can easily defeat almost any high level threat if he isn’t written to be stupid or the plot conveniently forgets his capabilities.
Tony Stark is way better as a character when his armour designs are actually grounded and limited to more realistic levels. Not some magical plot device classified as sci-fi but is pretty much magic in all but name. I think that's one of the reasons why I can tolerate Downey's Stark more than I can for 616's Stark. The live-action Iron Man hasn't approach the comic's level of "genius" yet. I even like the fact that he pretty much has to rely on AI for much of the grunt work.
I think Post-Movie Spongebob is not as bad as everyone says, there are many episodes I find enjoyable
This is going to get me into some shit, but I think Brave is actually a worse movie than Cars 2.
Cars 2 is complete crap, don't get me wrong, but Merida is so goddamn useless as a protagonist that I actually have to give Mater more credit for actually buckling down and getting shit done.
Mater at least fucking contributes, grows a little as a character, solves the problem and saves the day.
Merida does none of those things. She constantly needs others to bail her out, refuses to take any responsibility for anything, doesn't learn jack fuck or changes in any meaningful way, and doesn't even defeat the fucking villain. All of her contributions to the plot are negative and both nearly started a four way war and almost got everyone killed. Mater's only crime was he was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Plus, Brave is so fucking boring. Cars 2's plot may be retarded as fuck, but at least shit HAPPENS. Brave is a dumb cunt and a cartoon bear fucking around in the woods.
I'm not saying Cars 2 is a BETTER movie than Brave. It's not. It's a less crappy movie. It's basically comparing shit to diarrhea. But if I had to rank a worst Pixar movie, Brave wins the crown.
These. TTG! is actually fun and funny. It kinda sucks that DC Nation got cancelled and all, and I guess a 'real' continuation of the TT show would be fantastic, but TTG! is great. I love how it just doesn't give a fuck and it's nice seeing a different side of all the characters.
People hate Mabel? She's my favorite character in that show, although I haven't watched it in a while. I should really get on that.
Other opinions of mine:
>Danny Phantom wasn't that good most of the time and that's coming from someone who was super hyped to watch it.
>Kim Possible was almost always shit outside of A Sitch in Time.
>Comic books > manga
>Steven Universe genuinely has the potential to be one of the greatest cartoons of all time. It's already better than most cartoons that preceded it.
>A lot of 90's cartoons have aged terribly, like Dexter's Lab and PPG. Still enjoyable but they are a little dated.
>Toy Story 2 and 3 were both overrated to hell.
I don't like Gravity Falls.
And it's only because of the constant illuminati references.
I'm not trying to be satirical, I'm not trying to be one of those "10/10 illuminati confirmed" fucknuts, I'm serious.
The constant references to the Illuminati keeps me from enjoying the show.
The only reason Bill was created to give some sort of reason to why the illuminati symbolism was in the show.
I honestly don't get why so many people, on /co/ and elsewhere, claimed Bing-Bong's death brought them to tears. I can get why Riley's confession hit people, but Bing-Bong was annoying as all hell and his death was about as unpredictable as the sunrise. He was an imaginary friend and the whole story was about moving on from childhood.
>His next best is actually probably his Legion stuff especially when Supergirl was on the team.
My nigga. I didn't read all of it but Threeboot Legion was actually good.
I don't read enough LoSH actually. But I do like the team and that run in particular was actually really enjoyable.
>Manga does a few things better than comics, but is overall an inferior medium that has never approached the quality heights of western comics.
My nigga. Manga is completely overrated and comic book art is generally superior. Plus I dislike the b&w manga art.
>The late 2000s was the best period ever for Superman.
If we're talking '06-'10, you are spot-on or at least partially right in that it was one of the best eras for Superman. You had Geoff Johns' Action Comics, All-Star Superman, and Final Crisis, all of which were great Superman books.
>The 2010s is BY FAR the worst and has yet to produce anything worth reading with the character.
Kinda disagree with this since we got Morrison's Action Comics and The Multiversity, plus I've been hearing good things about Pak's AC run as well.
Nothing with a female protagonist has ever been good, let alone great. Women are inherently uninteresting so people should stop trying to push the "female protagonist" bullshit already. They're annoying as side-characters, as protagonists they're unbearable.
Oh, and Alien was garbage and the reason why no one takes horror-movies seriously.
>People hate Mabel? She's my favorite character in that show, although I haven't watched it in a while. I should really get on that.
Few recent episodes didn't really show her in good light.
No such thing as an inferior medium. Everything has its potential to shine
unless it's vidya.
>Otherwise they'll just ruin
You can't ruin Punisher because there's nothing to ruin. He's a shit character through and through and all his stories are juvenile revenge fantasy trash. Yes, that applies to everyone's beloved Ennis too.
By the way the only good things Ennis has done for Marvel were his Fury comics. Fury in general is a much better character with a serious potential for good stories.
Punisher was always shit.
>Nothing with a female protagonist has ever been good, let alone great. Women are inherently uninteresting so people should stop trying to push the "female protagonist" bullshit already. They're annoying as side-characters, as protagonists they're unbearable.
Don't be talking shit about muh Metroid, boy.
>Oh, and Alien was garbage and the reason why no one takes horror-movies seriously.
You think motherfucking ALIEN is the reason why no one takes horror movies seriously, and not the shlock that makes up the vast majority of horror movies? Sturgeon's Law applies more to the horror movie genre than anything else, considering how cheap and easy it is to make horror movies, not to mention some trappings of the genre. Only natural then that the vast majority of horror movies, even more so than other genres, would be shit.
Alien, on the other hand, stands out as one of the greatest sci-fi and horror movies ever made. Most people think so, buddy.
>Everything has its potential to shine unless it's vidya.
Metroid is shit. Deal with it.
>shlock that makes up the vast majority of horror movies
I don't fucking see how Alien is any different from say Friday the 13th shitty flicks, except for higher production values. Same bad writing, same lame attempts at being scary, same one-dimensional characters you feel nothing for, same shitty monster. The only reason it's still remembered is because feminists latched onto it because MUH STRONG WOMYN despite Ripley having no memorable personality whatsoever.
Carpenter's The Thing was what Alien should have been.
>Metroid is shit. Deal with it.
>I don't fucking see how Alien is any different from say Friday the 13th shitty flicks, except for higher production values. Same bad writing, same lame attempts at being scary, same one-dimensional characters you feel nothing for, same shitty monster. The only reason it's still remembered is because feminists latched onto it because MUH STRONG WOMYN despite Ripley having no memorable personality whatsoever.
Not the stellar art direction and visual direction, not the deliberate pace of the first third of the movie, not the part where they touch down on LV-426, which contribute to the movie's mood and atmosphere? Not the fascinating sci-fi world that it builds up with the androids, all the futuristic technology, the Space Jockeys, and the aliens themselves? Ripley's just the cherry on top and the cast was more memorable and likable than most other horror movies. The setup of Alien is a thousand times more interesting than most other horror movies.
>mood and atmosphere
There was none.
>fascinating sci-fi world
Where? All I see is generic sci-fi cliches everyone seen billions of times before.
>cast was more memorable and likable
>The setup of Alien is a thousand times more interesting than most other horror movies.
Oh, please. It's Jason X-tier.
Nah, the entire Alien franchise is just shit. Too bad people are idiots and hold Alien and Nightmare on Elm Street as horror masterpieces which is why no one sensible takes the genre seriously.
>Nah, the entire Alien franchise is just shit. Too bad people are idiots and hold Alien and Nightmare on Elm Street as horror masterpieces which is why no one sensible takes the genre seriously.
As opposed to what?
Like, out of an entire genre of mostly fucking shit, the few movies in that genre to not actually suck are somehow the reason why the genre is shit? What the fuck do you like then?
Nightmare on Elm street was only good the first time, and that's because of the idea behind it, which is why Alien is so fantastic.
What plebs like you, my sister, and her snapback-tier boyfriend seem to fail to appreciate is that if you don't, to an extent, imagine yourself in the movie or the situation in question, you're gonna think it's dumb because it's like someone describing a dream to you. NoES is based because being unable to sleep for fear of being in an inescapable sewer or whatever with a fedorafag that nobody else believes in is a damn scary situation. Alien is great horror because of a similar situation, except it's even worse: you're being hunted, you don't know what this thing looks like (til close to the end), the android tasked with protecting you is ALSO out to kill you, most of your friends have been fukt, and to top it off if you try to leave the ship (which seems to be the ideal hunting ground for this thing) you find yourself floating through space. If you use conventional weapons to kill it, it'll burn through the one thing keeping you from floating through space, or your shots will tear a hole in the hull with the same effect.
As opposed to The Thing, many of Hitchcock's movies and Eraserhead.
>are somehow the reason why the genre is shit
Yes, because they're no different from all the shitty horror movies yet lauded as something good.
>to not actually suck
>y-you just have to imagine yourself being there
Fuck off. That doesn't make the movie scary. Because guess what, you're not fucking there. You will never be there so there's nothing to be afraid of.
The Thing at least does its best to instill the sense of paranoia and a feeling of getting lost into you because Carpenter is a good film-maker. Cameron and Hack Craven who never made a single good film in his life are incapable of that.
NoES is scary only to retarded kids. Blame Craven for not being able to make it good. Then again, it's silly to expect much from Whedon of horror movies.
If there's a Japanese dub of a cartoon with English subtitles for a cartoon I'm watching, I would choose that over the English dub. Japanese VAs are just better, even its dubbed on Western cartoon or video game.
>listening to dubs
I just turn the volume off, read the subs and have some music played in the background. Fuck human voices unless they're vocals. I can't stand them, they're annoying.
Well hey man, to use your borderline autistic, "i skimmed and threw together a strawman really quickly" logic, you will never be in a room full of people that could be an alien, either :^)))
Alien the original is great in terms of set design, framing, and practical effects, and builds suspense well I don't see what there is to hate about it.
John Carpenter isn't that great, I mean not when compared to guys like Cronenberg.
Monty Oum was a shit animator and every single fight scene he's made is overdone to the point of boredom. He spends so much time making the characters ninja flip and snatch rockets out of the air when they should just be fucking fighting. It's like the idea of characters slugging it out in an actual fight without jumping and dancing at a million miles an hour was alien to him.
There is absolutely no suspense in the whole movie.
The other things are irrelevant. They are not even that great and all they do is show that the movie has higher budget than an average slasher flick.
You went full retard.
>LE AUTISTIC XD
Of course a faggot like you would defend a mediocrity like Wes Craven.
Oh and what is horror mister horror master, Strangers on a Train? Rope? Vertigo? Also the set designs and effects on Alien are that great, I don't give a shit who you think you are but they did an amazing job bringing concept art from guys like H.R Geiger and Moebius to life.
I thought that's just mediocre sci-fi like The Scanners.
I admit forgetting The Brood and The Fly, though. Those were legit good horror movies.
>H.R Geiger and Moebius
Nigger please. The movie wishes it looked half as pretty as the art of those guys.
Videodrome is obviously a body horror piece. Like I don't get how you could miss that. Also it's just Scanners. You also ignored the fact that I was calling you out on listing "many of Hitchcock's movies" as horror you like when most of what he did were thrillers and not horror movies. I mean you got the Birds, Psycho, and maybe Rear Window. The rest are mostly black comedies and crime stories.
Rick and morty is not funny, has never been funny and never will be funny.
It doesn't even have jokes, it's just unfunny riffing.
It's like the shitty filler from monty python but made into a cartoon.
>The Silver Age was garbage and never should have happened.
>An entire 20 years of history should have just never happened
You can't actually mean that. The reinvention of The Flash, Green Lantern, Hawkman, The Atom, and the Justice League never should have happened? The entire Marvel Universe never should have happened?
Mabel being unable to do wrong, or suffer their consequences, was always odd
When dipper was somehow in the wrong for trying to be confident with girls it felt way to hamfisted
When Mabel explicitly replaced her brother with a fucking 90's cliche, and refused to escape the open bubble, at literally EVERYONE ELSE'S EXPENSE, physically and mentaly etc, just because she didn't want dipper to grow up and away from her, and then he even promised to not do the one thing he wants, just to save everyone else, Everything peeled away and her pure evil showed
>When Mabel explicitly replaced her brother with a fucking 90's cliche
Yeah, that was really bad. Like, I could forgive her for throwing fit about thinking her brother is leaving because she loves him, but turned out she doesn't even love anything about him.
Morrison's Jason Todd was not that different from Winick's, except that he was actually more likable and a better person.
Rucka's Wonder Woman was boring.
Brubaker's characterization of Catwoman was insufferable, although the characters around her were okay.
She doesn't care about her brother
She doesn't care about her gruncles
She doesn't care about her town friends
She literaly knows that the world is false and at EVERYONE ELSE'S EXPENSE
Weirdmageddon Part1 literally makes Mable unforgivable tier
I don't even like Mabel, but the circlejerk about her being Satan is pathetic.
Firstly, Dipper regularly gets off with minimal reprisal for his actions which nearly get everyone killed (Summerween, Scary-oke, Dreamscaperers)
But your last paragraph is so wrong I have to break it down.
>Replaced her brother
Flat wrong. She fought for him stay, even as the Bubble wanted him to leave. She had a version of Dipper there because Dipper was not, and no sibling will ever regard the other as so perfect they want them exactly the same.
>She didn't want Dipper to grow up
This is so completely wrong it's laughable. Dipper's main character flaw is that he wants to skip the growing up portion of his life and just land at adult with no fuss. So he wants to abandon school at 13 and his family too? To do something he never indicated before the episode that he wanted to do? You know how I know she cares about him? Because when they show the flashbacks, she considers DIPPER'S bad day enough reason for her and brother to stay in the Bubble. If she didn't care, she wouldn't have played that memory.
>the one thing he wants
I'm convinced you haven't watched this show. Dipper has already explained that he wants to go to school and do a ghost show. He has NEVER indicated he wanted to live in GF, and has repeatedly said things to the contrary. Dipper realises what he does want is not to have his personality defined by Ford's projection. The only way he can fulfill the ghost show is if he goes with his sister to school. And he's not faking it either, seeing as MABEL TELLS HIM IT'S OKAY TO STAY IN GF WITH FORD, and he still says no.
Also, it's highly implied that she was under some form of hypnotic spell by the Bubble, considering that once she loses control over it, she immediately feels groggy, and has no idea what happened.
So yes, the Mabel hatred here is so over the top it borders on parody.
>DC has the best line-up of ongoings it's had in more than a decade
I'm like one of the 3 or so people who really enjoyed and looked forward to Doomed. Shame it's canceled, but at least there's still Teen Titans for me, which I also enjoy.
A pity about poor Roman, though. He and Reiser were such close buds, but he's now trapped in his own body and who knows if he'll ever get free, or if his and Reiser's misunderstanding will ever be resolved now that their own book has ended. :(
I really enjoy Cyborg and look forward to its next issues. I don't agree with the general notion here that it's "boring" or whatever, and I appreciate the introspection given to Victor throughout the first arc.
He went from being self-conscious about being a cyborg to being worried about how people would see him now that he has the power to turn himself completely human and back. I also look forward to Sebastian and Bobby's roles in the future, especially the latter, who know seems to have ended up with the same powers as Cyborg currently does.
>>Replaced her brother
>Flat wrong. She fought for him stay, even as the Bubble wanted him to leave. She had a version of Dipper there because Dipper was not, and no sibling will ever regard the other as so perfect they want them exactly the same.
You'd think fictional Dipper would be a little bit similar then, but no. He's completely different. There's not a single trait in Dipper that Mabel appears to like.
>>She didn't want Dipper to grow up
>This is so completely wrong it's laughable. Blah-blah-blah
He wanted to study supernatural. And here it is. His big chance. It doesn't mean apprenticeship is good for him, no. But it's not even part of the equasion. Mabel wants Dipper to be with her, not even considering what is good for HIM. Mabel has very poor understanding that other people are not her playthings.
>>the one thing he wants
>I'm convinced you haven't watched this show. blah-blah-blah
While it's nice of her to be so charitable (AFTER IT STOPPED MATTERING) this moment was a strange non-sequitor considering that she successfully held Dipper hostage and make him do what she wants she decided that he's allowed to have his own thing. He won't have it obviously. Mabel gets what she wants.
>Firstly, Dipper regularly gets off with minimal reprisal for his actions which nearly get everyone killed (Summerween, Scary-oke, Dreamscaperers)
This is true. But there's always a condemnation of his action in story. And he never does it in attempt to engage in something that is immoral to begin with.
I really didn't want Peter Parker to die and despite the sharing of memories and feelings, despite the promise of being a better Spider Man, that is still Doc Ock in his body. Spider Man still died at the hands of a villain. Nothing can change that fact. What was it all for then? I wish it hadn't ended like this. Would Uncle Ben be okay with it?
Captain America died like a pig. Of all the ways to be taken out, I would have least expected sniper fire to take down a hero of his magnitude.
The Superior Iron Man was a decent concept but had a shit ending and meh tier plot.
>>Most people on /co/ nit-pick shows too much, beyond the point of the actual '/co/' board.
I agree. Shame about this, really. Even in a thread like this that is meant to be "safe place", there far too many examples, especially the father down the page you go.
If you don't think that Mabel doesn't genuinely love her brother, you have crippling autism. I don't particularly like any of my brother's character traits either, but guess what? I still love him to death. And Mabel has admitted she appreciates his intelligence and being all-around nice and accepting.
The Supernatural will always be there, but his youth will not. He's only a kid for a short time, and Mabel has to keep reminding of this, and the show keeps reminding it's viewers of this. Yes, when Mabel was at an emotional weak point, having lost nearly everything in her life, friends, hope for the future, her pet soon to follow, she was desperate for the most important person in her life not to leave her. Any child would do the same, I did the same with my mother when I was scared, and asked her to help me through a trying time. He can always come back to GF, but the crucial life experiences of growing up at school WILL NOT.
And no it didn't stop mattering. Dipper could still have accepted the apprenticeship. Dipper DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT when he stopped and thought about it, so why are you blaming Mabel for him not doing it?
Dipper raises the dead because he wants to feel special. He sends the Trickster loose on everyone because he wants to try and stand around a party and do nothing. He dithers on letting a child see his family again because he wants to sit beside Wendy at a pool. He bullies someone to fit in a friend-group.
For Gods sake, she don't particularly like her, but Hitler she is not.
>I don't particularly like any of my brother's character traits either, but guess what? I still love him to death
Do you throw a hissy fit every time he wants to do his own thing though?
I'm sick of seeing worthless leech like Mabel being put on pedestal and Dipper's life being molded around her. Not even story of Stan, another person whose worthlessness and entitlement ruined his life deterred Mabel from this path. "Is it a good idea to spend my life with Ford" was never a question Dipper pondered, it was "What about Mabel's entitlement?"
Nor does Mabel. You're just picking one instance when she was at an emotional weak-point for something that Dipper didn't ultimately want to do. And yes, when I was having a bad day, I did get unreasonably angry with my brother. The rest of Dipper's "sacrifices" are from a neutral perspective, the right thing to do (saving the pig, letting a child meet his family, etc.)
I don't think you appreciate what an extraverted sibling can do for an Introvert. Not only has Mabel saved Dipper an equal amount of times as vice-versa (6 each) but she's genuinely helped him too, for example, by pushing him to talk it out with Wendy, and finally concluding that never-ending arc. Mabel gives Dipper a confidence push in social situations that my brother did for me, and for which I will always be thankful for. She is there when he's at his low points (Valentine's), and they share experiences together, and clearly enjoy playing together. That's not selfishness, that's love.
Dipper doesn't take it because he realises it's just like the Bubble; a fantasy that shuts him off from the rest of the world, and away from the pain of life and growing up. Those are his words. It has nothing to do with "I've got to make Mabel happy." That's your interpretation.
I actually agree that Bojack isn't that funny but I watched and loved the show for other reasons, namely the drama, character development, and character interactions. It's a pretty great character study but I'd be lying if I said that I found it hilarious. At best it's humorous at times.
Also Todd sucks. People hate on Diane, but there is nothing wrong with Diane. Todd on the other hand is a pointless waste of a character with nothing to contribute to the show. He's never been funny either.
>by pushing him to talk it out with Wendy
This didn't work, mind you. He couldn't talk to her like you would expect from a kid thrown into stressful situation without preparation. Go push hydrophobic people into pools or something, see them drown.
My parents dragged me to multiple social situations in my life I didn't want to go to. If I didn't, I would never have grown as a person. You need that push to grow socially. She was entirely correct to do so, AND EVEN APOLOGISES FOR MAKING HIM DO IT, while Dipper says it's okay because it was necessary, and he's right.
I don't remember him saying this, but even if he did, he was wrong. He couldn't talk to her, and he still couldn't until he thought she was dead.
Either way, this is not THE problem with Mabel. THE problem with Mabel is that SHE never has to meet adversity and grow as a person. Starting all the way back to Irrational Treasure every her delusion, selfish antic or immature stupidity was celebrated and validated.
The entire last episode outright had her main character flaw presented to her (fear of growing up/responsibility) before she realised he was right, and left with him, accepting the responsibility she had. Not only has she grown, she completed her arc, as did Dipper, who realised he shouldn't just skip out on the world as well.
The last episode was so crappily writing nothing was coherently presented to anyone.
Good case would be to show Mabel that she can't run away forever forever. Instead Dipper reassured that she doesn't have to run away from reality because he will always be her bitch.
How emotionally damaged are you to think being in a mutually loving, playful, supportive relationship (watch the flashbacks) with two characters who unmistakably cherish each other's interaction makes anyone a bitch? And the implication is that Dipper will be the one leading Mabel, so he would be the opposite of the bitch.
How much of a battered wife do you need to be to rationalize relationship where one side does whatever the fuck it wants and another apologize every time it goes wrong as loving and supportive?
No, Mabel does not always get what she wants (the Puppet Show springs to mind)
How can you honestly write the twins closer together? They bail each other out of situations regularly, and have quips with each other while doing it. They are each jealous of the other in some respect (one academically, one socially), but don't let it hold them back. The ending to Carpet Diem perfectly illustrates that they love each other to a degree most siblings do not.
Dipper is not made to constantly apologise, he just frequently does it because he's socially insecure, and it comes naturally. Mabel isn't forcing him to say it, and always says it's no problem.If she was DEMANDING he apologise, then that would be different, but she doesn't.
>No, Mabel does not always get what she wants (the Puppet Show springs to mind)
Notice how story made sure to devalue her love interest when she couldn't get him. Just so she doesn't have to actually sacrifice anything.
She didn't even bothered to learn that faking hobby to get a boy notice you might be wrong.
>Batman Begins is OK
>The Dark Knight is borderline unwatchable
>The Dark Knight Rises is so bad it is funny in parts
>Spider-man 1 and 2 are over-rated as fuck
>The best capeshit movies are Iron Man, X-men, and Captain America
>Avengers was shit
>Just so she doesn't have to actually sacrifice anything.
So, did Wendy saying she was never interested into Dipper undo all his sacrifces? No, because what's important was what the character THOUGHT they were giving up. Doesn't matter what he really was, the point was that Mabel desperately wanted him, put in a shitload of work, and gave it up for her brother's safety.
Okay, so when he gives up going to the party because he went trick or treating, is the universe bailing him out when it turns out the party sucks?
When he sacrifices the megaphone, is the universe bailing him out because Wendy immediately quits the job?
When Robbie gets Wendy because Dipper throws the ball, is the Universe bailing him out when they broke up?
These all seem like contrivances to award Dipper when he makes an altruistic decision, rather than genuinely sacrificing anything.
>Okay, so when he gives up going to the party because he went trick or treating, is the universe bailing him out when it turns out the party sucks?
This was hardly relevant because he didn't get to spend time with Wendy anyway
>When he sacrifices the megaphone, is the universe bailing him out because Wendy immediately quits the job?
This was just status quo
>When Robbie gets Wendy because Dipper throws the ball, is the Universe bailing him out when they broke up?
And, well, this was entire story about exposing Robbie's crazy plot.
Ultimately, what Dipper lost was still desirable.
>Manga does a few things better than comics, but is overall an inferior medium that has never approached the quality heights of western comics.
Except that's wrong you fucking retard. I would put Blade of The Immortal , 20th Century Boys and Akira up against the best comics from the west and they would compare quite favorably, but i doubt you've read any of it. Probably seen a vol of Naruto and now you think you're an expert.
Image comics was trash in the early 90's but in the last decade have been vastly superior to the big two and puts out the best and most creative , creator owned comics. Every thing else is just a load of bullshit that doesn't need even mentioning.
Mystique, or at least Mystique for the last 10 or so years, has always seemed like the laziest option when writers need a villain.
>She can be anyone so they can instantly say the villain was Mystique all along whenever they want
>gets vague power upgrade to be undetectable by Wolverine or psychics so she has super plot shield all the time
>her ideology is the vaguest to justify her being evil from 'I need the money to fund my bigger plans' to 'I do this for the mutants but not the X-Men mutants they don't count fuck those guys even if Magneto sides with them'