i am interested to find this girl who posted her self harm on the web there was a thread about it a while ago she had serious lacerations to her arms and legs and most recently face i am certain that she had a tumblr account anyone have any knowledge
What's the motivation here? Do people actually enjoy the sensation, or is it purely some Münchausen, attention-seeking thing?
im studying psychology and found it very interesting if you have anything more to talk about please do so thanks
Could be both. I know that when I was younger I would do it because I was batshit insane and performed a "bloodspill ritual" and would play with all the blood that came out and made these little totems with my blood.
>mfw i was fucking crazy
It would honestly never have occurred to me to do this while I was a teenager. I was too busy playing sports, getting high and hanging out with my classic bros. How do you even start?
I was the same way. I mean, it's not like cutting changed anything, I was still social with everybody and all that shit. I just decided one day that I wanted to do it. I'm pretty sure I had schizophrenia or some other condition for a while too, because I would always hear voices of people laughing and shit, which probably contributed to it. I really just did it as a hobby, I thought it was fun to play with the blood, and as I said I saw it as a sort of ritual so some satisfaction came with that too.
from someone who deals with people who struggled with alcohol drugs suicide attempts and self harm what is your main motivation
That's interesting. I know that schizophrenia often develops in men throughout their late teens or twenties. I suppose there's no reason why the brain's plasticity wouldn't also allow for it to disappear. I get the ritualistic thing. I had a phase of searching for 'rituals' I might try - in my late teens - because I think I wanted a sense of something 'transcendent'. Also, I'd probably been reading a lot of Lovecraft and Mencken around that time.
Anyway, good job on getting out of that edgy phase before it became permanent.
Jesus Christ, these poor people need help.
Attention whores, man. Some of that damage would be near fatal, require PT, and be bleeding a hell of a lot more than it is. Oooooooooh, look how dark I am!
Too clever by half, though. The skin is too tight to be real.
Haha yeah, I'm glad I'm not that edgy anymore. All the scars faded after about a year and a half (for the deep ones, most went away after a couple months), and I'm glad I'm not marked for life as edgy. Glad I never got to that crazy deformed limb stage.
I don't see how nihilism or cynicism leads to this 'aesthetic' cutting. Wounding yourself doesn't follow from 'live is devoid of meaning a priori' in any universe. I just can't imagine that many - indeed, the vast majority - would ever arrive at this conclusion if it wasn't a known phenomenon. It's like any 'meme' - just an expression of a basic desire to fit in.
Well now I know my intestinal fortitude is not what I thought it was.
I got to admit, the fatty tissue looked pretty god-damn cute.
Aside from that, the blood is an amazing color and a few of the photos actually look sexy.
>The rest just make her look like a granny though
At least they faded. I've still got a couple of marks from burns I got while working in a restaurant as a teenager. There's something vaguely ridiculous about a pizza oven leaving visible signs when intentional scratches weren't able to.
Cutting releases endorphins which makes you feel good. If you're seriously depressed, it can be difficult to resist the temptation of a quick high.
That's one reason, anyway. Of course it could also be a cry for help, or just a "special snowflake" thing.
Or maybe they do it because they like it, scarification is a genuine body mod, I can see why some people would think scars like that are beautiful.
soo...she's dead right?
i dont' get it. how can you do that to yourself and not die? she can't possibly be tending to the wounds herself, and if any professional were to see her they'd call the cops and she'd be put somewhere.
We don't know whether she used drugs or not. I'm assuming she did. Something to prevent her from going unconscious at least, because most cutters do it for the feeling. Using pills to take the pain away would defeat the whole purpose of cutting.
Unless she's just an attention whore. Which is probably is. Some show their tits to get that kind of attention, some dress in slutty clothes. She just fucked up her body in ways that can never be restored.
Each to his/her own eh?
Personally I used to cut because it was just fun, a lot of times it was a quick release of a lot of tension. Like if I was extremely stressed or anxious, one quick cut and everything sort of faded away with the pain. It's like something building under your skin and being released through a makeshift vent. Other times were because I liked the feeling.
>tfw loving parents read me Transcendental and Stoic school texts from infancy
>dat unbreakable foundation of fortitude, self-respect and dignity
Completely skipped the embarrassing-phase phase.
guess its beyond me, i just dont get it why do they need attention, personally never wanted none, sure got it some times but i dont crave it like a twilight vampire craves cock. well guess they just need some serious help am not here to judge it just plagues me why...
I remember when I was younger I did it because I was depressed and I wanted to feel something other than what I was feeling all the time. Pain distracted me from those emotions for a little while. I still have a few scars from it. I never posted pictures of it or anything because I didn't want to draw attention to myself. I felt like something was wrong with me because I was doing it and that made me feel even worse. Eventually I found better ways to distract myself, and talked to a lot of people about the issues that were keeping me depressed all the time. Plus I read a lot of books the insight into other peoples thoughts let me find my own answers to my problems. Now I'm a semi active Buddhist, I still read a lot, and I do still suffer from depression sometimes, but I'm able to get over it pretty quickly through meditation.
i get it everyone has problems and shit they have to deal with, but i also bealive that everyone can find someone to talk to and relate to, and letting shit out of you by talking with friends eases a lot of things
I find this whole thing psychologically fascinating, even though it's aesthetically and personally repulsive to me. It's a bit like the origin of certain fetishes. I often wonder how someone develops a scat fetish, for example.
I'm sure you're right. I suppose that's why, having read Emerson and Seneca, I never had any interest. I was always under the impression that self-pity was dumb and unhelpful.
i thought it was a troll then i saw the first 2 pics and i had to decide if i really want to see this or live happy ever after , i closed the tap
I never did it for attention, I hate the attention I get to the point that I hid during gym lessons and I always wear hoodies to cover even the faintest of scars. Some days I feel pretty confident so I can wear a tshirt, but mostly it's long sleeves and jeans
I'm with you in that fellow anon.
But then people come and "oh man, woe is me, my life is a misery, how would I cope with it, I need to cut myself"
Well, you can do what I do: masturbate. I'll open motherless now, it's better than cutting myself.
>tfw seven or eight years on this website have completely desensitised you to gore
you piss me off so much, if that is your goal you've achieved it gratz
i feel it is unnatural to hurt yourself it just goes against instincts. its not normal, something HAS to be wrong...
pitty themselves. hmh why should someone pitty themself, pitty imo is reserved for things you cannot change thats why you feel bad and 95% of the time you can change the shit you personally are in.
Is it really the worst you've ever seen? Shit dude, you haven't been here for long have you?
The ONLY thing that still has the capability to "shock" me or make my blood boil is animal abuse. Not the pics though, or the countless gifs that have been posted on here throughout the years. I'm talking about the shit some people do it shit-tier countries to get 'precious' fur, for example.
Everything else, meh. Blood isn't shocking. Shit used to be nasty, now I pretty much fap to it. Same goes for puke. The things /b/ was capable of..
4chan + being a paramedic prepares you for the worst.
The appearance doesn't get me anymore.
It's the smell.
Also, people with throat injuries trying to talk
If it's cut open you can see the throat undulate when they try to speak and it really puts a knot in my stomach when I see it
cause they find another way of relief, a more natural and sane way, like talking to friends
more options right here that go against my case but you know smokeing drinking and shit (i realise cutting is a way of relief i guess am just saying there are better alternatives)
Not that guy, but animal abuse boils my blood too. I think it's because - at the very root - it's a jarring expression of the fundamental dichotomy between 'innocence' and 'experience' (to use William Blake's terminology). The infliction of cruelty requires knowledge and forethought - the very things which any organism which merely experiences the world 'as it is' lack.
That's why cruelty to children and animals is so offensive. Not because of how it appears, but because the victim has to framework to even conceive of what's happening.
Been here for nearly a decade. People were occasionally polite or respectful then too.
>muh hate machine
>muh golden era /b/
It's all bullshit. There have always been different kinds of people on here. The only difference is none of them are producing new content now.
The thought of someone cutting themselves and taking a picture just freaks me out. Like cutting to the bone and trying to walk while all the fat/muscle/flesh is hanging out holy shit ugh. If she was dead that'd be tolerable. But being alive nope nope nope
so basically cuz they're defenseless? i find people suffering more shocking, taking their dignity and inflicting pain because of our/their beliefs is fucked up. senseless abuse is retarded i agree but i do get hunting for exmaple.
Pretty much what this guy said >>538370832
They are innocent beings. They cannot fight back like humans can, let alone comprehend what is happening to them or -why- it's happening to them.
>This is a good time to take some pictures
That's where you and I differ.
You start imagining all kinds of shit when you look at pics like that. I have little problem just blocking my imagination when I'm looking at disgusting things. It does get harder when smell is involved though, or a situation where -I'm- in.
>spent way too long on 4chan
>hang out with paramedics
>worked at a butcher shop
>seen every horrific gore video there is
>my reaction to this chick
I'm more fascinated that she hasn't been institutionalized. That and does she leave her residence to fetch food and shit? I imagine if some obnoxiously assertive white woman saw any of that she'd call the fucking cops.
Blood has a metallic smell to it.
A lot of it in one place becomes very recognizable to the nose.
Then there are other bodily odors, like exposed fat, that has a unique smell that I can't exactly describe.
Vomit is another big one, though it's a smell that's easier to get used to because you've probably thrown up a few times in your life at least
Blood? I don't see what's so bad about smelling blood...
Precisely his point. Hunting is a natural activity that arose from the need to eat. Most of the animals hunt. The poster you were replying to was talking about cold murder. Torture and creative ways of killing other than to feed themselves.
Shit can get nasty, I can tell you that.
I like the smell of blood, but that's just me.
I would love for some creepy girl like this to be my girlfriend. One morning I'd be waking up and she'd be cutting my leg in half. I'd freak out for a second, patch it up, and make violent love to her. Maybe I'm just attracted to those who are different from this extremely conservative world 4chan newcomers seem to be promoting. For bonobos, sex is the solution to everything. It's not incredibly ritualistic, but anything you (or I) can do to become more spiritually conscious and experience those emotions helps make life worthwhile. To have polarized opinions about how someone lives their life ignores everything that they like about it. I think that real cutters are more emotionally deep than the rest of us. They, like artists, are very emotional, and in my opinion the passion they experience is utopian, and therefore I encourage everyone to be more passionate for their own benefit.
Humting as a sport is fucking rediculous. There is NO need to kill animals just to entertain yourself. We've got so many things that can keep us busy already. Humans are spoiled as shit.
The only time I'd accept hunting is when it's ment for consumption and survival, just like nature intended it to be. Now you could say that most hunters eat what they kill but lets be honest, is it neccesary? We've got a shitload of meat in the stores already.
Its not really that bad anon. You just cut your arm with a small knife or whatever and then you just let it heal naturally. Its only a few hundred cuts to make it look like that. If you put neosporin on it, it usually heals back up perfect, its only when you dont that your body will look like that. It would only take like 30 minutes to an hour maybe to cut your arm like that. Usually with people who cause such massive trauma to an area, they are heavily tripping on endorphins and are actually feeling really awesome and hardly feel any of the pain at all.
also these are fake and may be mixed in with some actual small real scars, shes a good makeup artist, but most of these would be fatal and crippling cuts if they were even performed successfully, much less chop the shit out of your body and trying to do something as simple as standing up and taking a duck face picture in the mirror. You cant just machete wound yourself and not pass out from the immense pain and shock, much less do all the stitch work, clotting, etc, daily life movement required to FUCKING STAY ALIVE.
Fucking fuck shit fuck
Fucking what I thought I've seen it all
I feel like I finally delved as far into the depths of the web as I'm willing to go. Time to come back up for some fucking air and become a normal, functioning member of society.
Bye, /b/ros, it's been a good ride
So long and thanks for all the fish
>B folder is delete
Of course I don't hate a lion for killing a zebra. It's the way nature works, it's all about survival. We, on the other hand, came up with ways to have an unlimited supply of food/meat, without the need for people to hunt. People hunting for pleasure is an entirely different thing.
i did not specify which type of hunting yea, but consider the following:
if someone has to option to hunt, and it is in someway cheaper than stores (and enjoys it like some people enjoy cooking) why wouldnt they hunt for food?
An animal, an innocent, can conceive of 'hunting' insofar as it can conceive of hunger. The natural world obviously communicates that truth - you must 'hunt' to survive. But gratuitous killing of any animal (i.e. if it doesn't perpetuate the survival of another living thing) is wanton cruelty.
i knew a cutter who said the endorphins answer was total bull shit so i dont know what to believe now
>tfw our fucking dog scratched me on the wrist, it wont heal and it looks like a fucking suicide attempt that no one believes me about
Wild animal populations would sky rocket if they were no longer hunted, and then the majority of them would end up starving to death anyway.
Really, if we want to be proper here, hunting animals savs their species as a whole.
And if some people can enjoy themselves during the act, it's a win-win
>I'm pretty sure I had schizophrenia or some other condition for a while too, because I would always hear voices of people laughing and shit, which probably contributed to it.
For your own sake and for the sake of my ability to sleep at night at the very most what you experienced here was a psychotic episode.
Asides from the fact that Schizophrenia typically onsets during your twenties and that the condition does not just go away - contrary to popular belief schizophrenia's primary traits are NOT hallucinations but delusions. Typical examples of schizophrenic behavior could be more aptly described as dysphoric, asocial, confused, anhedonic, delusional, disorganized, apathetic, distant or paranoid.
Hallucinations are not by uncommon in schizophrenics but only because psychosis itself often arises in people with schizophrenia, thus it is the psychosis and not the schizophrenia responsible for said hallucinations.
If it's really to be able to provide yourself and/or your family with food, I have less trouble with it. If it's -only- for pleasure I feel like it's unnecessary. I can imagine the 'fun' in killing a big animal, of course. It's the feeling of power I suppose, a natural instinct we still got. It just got way too easy for us, now that we've got guns and all.
I read about this bitch a while ago, why the hell do people cut? I know a girl who was a 10/10, she was smart, popular, rich family and for some reason she was cutting.
Can anyone figure something out?
You're certain that's the case? I've seen hallucinations readily identified among the 'positive' symptoms of schizophrenia, without the psychosis caveat. I'm no expert, though. You're probably right.
>One morning I'd be waking up and she'd be cutting my leg in half. I'd freak out for a second, patch it up, and make violent love to her.
You're fucking retarded.
>You cant just machete wound yourself and not pass out from the immense pain and shock, much less do all the stitch work, clotting, etc, daily life movement required to FUCKING STAY ALIVE.
You cut that main line in your leg and you're fucked. You have maybe 15 fucking seconds to rip open that wound and clamp shut that artery before you lose consciousness and die. Good fucking luck doing that yourself much less another human being. You might as well be trying to tie spaghetti in a knot thats covered in grape jelly while jabbing yourself in the eye socket with a stick. Then IF you get to the hospital, most likely your leg will be amputated.
Everytime you hunt its for consumption. That going to a fenced in ranch and sitting in a treehide isn't hunting either. Animals all must be hunted now. It is a part of the lifecycle. You cant just stop killing an expected 30million animals and not expect the entire fucking ecosystem to collapse.
That is fucking appalling. Fucking seek help or kill yourself. For fucks sake...
I must admit, you do have a point. In a way, some species would be growing in numbers way too fast. On the other hand, nature has a way of 'fixing' her shit. Unless, for example, some retard released some kind of fast breeding animal into an area they're not supposed to be in, to get rid of another species. In that case, it has to be dealt with.
Holy shit did that make me feel uncomfortable.
I mean THE FUCK.
Could be either one. But most people that post pics are doing it for attention. I've known a couple cutters and they try to hide it not post it on fucking tumblr. I've also never seen any nearly as bad in this pic.
And that's the fundamental tension - between, as I said, 'innocence' and 'experience' - which animates any philosophy that makes concessions to nature. Romantic poetry and the Biblical story of Genesis are basically all about that. Should our 'superior intelligence' be curtailed by morality?
Clearly someone who lacks emotional inteligence here, guys. Its useless to argue with this kind of person, forget it. This fag will end his life on a taxidermied horse's cock. Forget it.
Yes, and wanton cruelty is one of the simple pleasures in life. You should ask yourself if your moral objections are really warranted. If people enjoy hunting and they can fit it into their schedule and all, why not? To people like me, you sound like some extreme Christian who hates pre-marital sex, but to you your moral perspective is justified because an animal is harmed. It matters to you, but not to me. Yes, we are all animals, but we are also all individuals with individual motivations and opinions. Though it may be unethical to kill someone who could be of some benefit to you, emotion wins over that primitive morality. If I got sublime pleasure from killing people, I wouldn't want you to tell me my actions aren't justifed. Of course they aren't justified all that well, but it's fun, and I don't want you taking away my fun.
Assuming this is true (which I don't believe, but in the off chance that it is), I have a few questions:
was she always like that? If not, when did she start cutting? What did she look like beforehand? Pics?
Again, I've been on here for a while. There was never a gore thread back in 2004 which didn't have plenty of reactions just like his. Stop imagining some golden-era /b/ filled with emotionless nihilists who hated everything. It was never like that.
Things like wild deer in North America have few natural predators anymore.
Mainly because of humans, because animals like wolves were fucking with our cattle so we killed them, but hunting in a case like this mainly helps to keep their population in check
Hallucinations can absolutely be positive signs of the presence of schizophrenia, but they are rarely actually stemmed directly from the condition.
There are without a doubt cases (almost always with only auditory hallucinations) where psychosis is ruled out, and hallucinations are attributed purely to the schizophrenia, this is generally because the patient is in a state where psychotic episodes cannot be observed (see: we can't tell when a episode begins or ends). This point is generally only reached because the patient is seriously disturbed (for lack of a more appropriate word) and antipsychotics have proven completely ineffective.
Whereas the more typical cases are what I described earlier where the patient has psychotic episodes and are referred to as schizophrenic, but treated for both schizophrenia and psychosis.
It's really just a jumble of semantics in that sense.
I'm not going to take away your fun, buddy. When it comes down to it, there are simply different kinds of people in the world - that's clear, I get that. You can get neurological and say that some complex cluster of 'mirror-neurons' in my brain naturally makes me abhor cruelty and that you might be lacking that same group. In the end, all generality is pointless. And, by extension, so is all communication which couldn't be completed with hand gestures.
i enjoyed the discussion with you, you made pretty good arguements, you go my respect for that. i am off to bad its 4am here. goodnight and cheers
heaven on the other hand can suck my dick he didnt even explain shit he just came and went: hurr durr u no sad for cute animals u r mentaly messed up hurr durr. back your shit up with facts and arguements i never argued with other posters anyways we had a civilized talk about our opinions.