i am interested to find this girl who posted her self harm on the web there was a thread about it a while ago she had serious lacerations to her arms and legs and most recently face i am certain that she had a tumblr account anyone have any knowledge
>>538362768 Could be both. I know that when I was younger I would do it because I was batshit insane and performed a "bloodspill ritual" and would play with all the blood that came out and made these little totems with my blood. >mfw i was fucking crazy
>>538363469 I was the same way. I mean, it's not like cutting changed anything, I was still social with everybody and all that shit. I just decided one day that I wanted to do it. I'm pretty sure I had schizophrenia or some other condition for a while too, because I would always hear voices of people laughing and shit, which probably contributed to it. I really just did it as a hobby, I thought it was fun to play with the blood, and as I said I saw it as a sort of ritual so some satisfaction came with that too.
That's interesting. I know that schizophrenia often develops in men throughout their late teens or twenties. I suppose there's no reason why the brain's plasticity wouldn't also allow for it to disappear. I get the ritualistic thing. I had a phase of searching for 'rituals' I might try - in my late teens - because I think I wanted a sense of something 'transcendent'. Also, I'd probably been reading a lot of Lovecraft and Mencken around that time.
Anyway, good job on getting out of that edgy phase before it became permanent.
>>538364738 Haha yeah, I'm glad I'm not that edgy anymore. All the scars faded after about a year and a half (for the deep ones, most went away after a couple months), and I'm glad I'm not marked for life as edgy. Glad I never got to that crazy deformed limb stage.
I don't see how nihilism or cynicism leads to this 'aesthetic' cutting. Wounding yourself doesn't follow from 'live is devoid of meaning a priori' in any universe. I just can't imagine that many - indeed, the vast majority - would ever arrive at this conclusion if it wasn't a known phenomenon. It's like any 'meme' - just an expression of a basic desire to fit in.
At least they faded. I've still got a couple of marks from burns I got while working in a restaurant as a teenager. There's something vaguely ridiculous about a pizza oven leaving visible signs when intentional scratches weren't able to.
>>538363895 soo...she's dead right? i dont' get it. how can you do that to yourself and not die? she can't possibly be tending to the wounds herself, and if any professional were to see her they'd call the cops and she'd be put somewhere.
>>538366176 We don't know whether she used drugs or not. I'm assuming she did. Something to prevent her from going unconscious at least, because most cutters do it for the feeling. Using pills to take the pain away would defeat the whole purpose of cutting.
Unless she's just an attention whore. Which is probably is. Some show their tits to get that kind of attention, some dress in slutty clothes. She just fucked up her body in ways that can never be restored.
Personally I used to cut because it was just fun, a lot of times it was a quick release of a lot of tension. Like if I was extremely stressed or anxious, one quick cut and everything sort of faded away with the pain. It's like something building under your skin and being released through a makeshift vent. Other times were because I liked the feeling.
>>538366861 guess its beyond me, i just dont get it why do they need attention, personally never wanted none, sure got it some times but i dont crave it like a twilight vampire craves cock. well guess they just need some serious help am not here to judge it just plagues me why...
I remember when I was younger I did it because I was depressed and I wanted to feel something other than what I was feeling all the time. Pain distracted me from those emotions for a little while. I still have a few scars from it. I never posted pictures of it or anything because I didn't want to draw attention to myself. I felt like something was wrong with me because I was doing it and that made me feel even worse. Eventually I found better ways to distract myself, and talked to a lot of people about the issues that were keeping me depressed all the time. Plus I read a lot of books the insight into other peoples thoughts let me find my own answers to my problems. Now I'm a semi active Buddhist, I still read a lot, and I do still suffer from depression sometimes, but I'm able to get over it pretty quickly through meditation.
>>538367506 i get it everyone has problems and shit they have to deal with, but i also bealive that everyone can find someone to talk to and relate to, and letting shit out of you by talking with friends eases a lot of things
I find this whole thing psychologically fascinating, even though it's aesthetically and personally repulsive to me. It's a bit like the origin of certain fetishes. I often wonder how someone develops a scat fetish, for example.
>>538367580 I never did it for attention, I hate the attention I get to the point that I hid during gym lessons and I always wear hoodies to cover even the faintest of scars. Some days I feel pretty confident so I can wear a tshirt, but mostly it's long sleeves and jeans
>>538367894 pitty themselves. hmh why should someone pitty themself, pitty imo is reserved for things you cannot change thats why you feel bad and 95% of the time you can change the shit you personally are in.
Is it really the worst you've ever seen? Shit dude, you haven't been here for long have you?
The ONLY thing that still has the capability to "shock" me or make my blood boil is animal abuse. Not the pics though, or the countless gifs that have been posted on here throughout the years. I'm talking about the shit some people do it shit-tier countries to get 'precious' fur, for example.
Everything else, meh. Blood isn't shocking. Shit used to be nasty, now I pretty much fap to it. Same goes for puke. The things /b/ was capable of..
4chan + being a paramedic prepares you for the worst. The appearance doesn't get me anymore. It's the smell. Also, people with throat injuries trying to talk If it's cut open you can see the throat undulate when they try to speak and it really puts a knot in my stomach when I see it
Not that guy, but animal abuse boils my blood too. I think it's because - at the very root - it's a jarring expression of the fundamental dichotomy between 'innocence' and 'experience' (to use William Blake's terminology). The infliction of cruelty requires knowledge and forethought - the very things which any organism which merely experiences the world 'as it is' lack.
That's why cruelty to children and animals is so offensive. Not because of how it appears, but because the victim has to framework to even conceive of what's happening.
>>538369609 The thought of someone cutting themselves and taking a picture just freaks me out. Like cutting to the bone and trying to walk while all the fat/muscle/flesh is hanging out holy shit ugh. If she was dead that'd be tolerable. But being alive nope nope nope
>>538370832 so basically cuz they're defenseless? i find people suffering more shocking, taking their dignity and inflicting pain because of our/their beliefs is fucked up. senseless abuse is retarded i agree but i do get hunting for exmaple.
You start imagining all kinds of shit when you look at pics like that. I have little problem just blocking my imagination when I'm looking at disgusting things. It does get harder when smell is involved though, or a situation where -I'm- in.
>spent way too long on 4chan >hang out with paramedics >worked at a butcher shop >seen every horrific gore video there is >my reaction to this chick
I'm more fascinated that she hasn't been institutionalized. That and does she leave her residence to fetch food and shit? I imagine if some obnoxiously assertive white woman saw any of that she'd call the fucking cops.
>>538371632 Blood? I don't see what's so bad about smelling blood...
>>538371668 Precisely his point. Hunting is a natural activity that arose from the need to eat. Most of the animals hunt. The poster you were replying to was talking about cold murder. Torture and creative ways of killing other than to feed themselves.
>>538370159 I like the smell of blood, but that's just me.
I would love for some creepy girl like this to be my girlfriend. One morning I'd be waking up and she'd be cutting my leg in half. I'd freak out for a second, patch it up, and make violent love to her. Maybe I'm just attracted to those who are different from this extremely conservative world 4chan newcomers seem to be promoting. For bonobos, sex is the solution to everything. It's not incredibly ritualistic, but anything you (or I) can do to become more spiritually conscious and experience those emotions helps make life worthwhile. To have polarized opinions about how someone lives their life ignores everything that they like about it. I think that real cutters are more emotionally deep than the rest of us. They, like artists, are very emotional, and in my opinion the passion they experience is utopian, and therefore I encourage everyone to be more passionate for their own benefit.
Humting as a sport is fucking rediculous. There is NO need to kill animals just to entertain yourself. We've got so many things that can keep us busy already. Humans are spoiled as shit.
The only time I'd accept hunting is when it's ment for consumption and survival, just like nature intended it to be. Now you could say that most hunters eat what they kill but lets be honest, is it neccesary? We've got a shitload of meat in the stores already.
>>538364318 Its not really that bad anon. You just cut your arm with a small knife or whatever and then you just let it heal naturally. Its only a few hundred cuts to make it look like that. If you put neosporin on it, it usually heals back up perfect, its only when you dont that your body will look like that. It would only take like 30 minutes to an hour maybe to cut your arm like that. Usually with people who cause such massive trauma to an area, they are heavily tripping on endorphins and are actually feeling really awesome and hardly feel any of the pain at all.
>>538363895 also these are fake and may be mixed in with some actual small real scars, shes a good makeup artist, but most of these would be fatal and crippling cuts if they were even performed successfully, much less chop the shit out of your body and trying to do something as simple as standing up and taking a duck face picture in the mirror. You cant just machete wound yourself and not pass out from the immense pain and shock, much less do all the stitch work, clotting, etc, daily life movement required to FUCKING STAY ALIVE.
Of course I don't hate a lion for killing a zebra. It's the way nature works, it's all about survival. We, on the other hand, came up with ways to have an unlimited supply of food/meat, without the need for people to hunt. People hunting for pleasure is an entirely different thing.
An animal, an innocent, can conceive of 'hunting' insofar as it can conceive of hunger. The natural world obviously communicates that truth - you must 'hunt' to survive. But gratuitous killing of any animal (i.e. if it doesn't perpetuate the survival of another living thing) is wanton cruelty.
>>538363989 >I'm pretty sure I had schizophrenia or some other condition for a while too, because I would always hear voices of people laughing and shit, which probably contributed to it.
For your own sake and for the sake of my ability to sleep at night at the very most what you experienced here was a psychotic episode.
Asides from the fact that Schizophrenia typically onsets during your twenties and that the condition does not just go away - contrary to popular belief schizophrenia's primary traits are NOT hallucinations but delusions. Typical examples of schizophrenic behavior could be more aptly described as dysphoric, asocial, confused, anhedonic, delusional, disorganized, apathetic, distant or paranoid.
Hallucinations are not by uncommon in schizophrenics but only because psychosis itself often arises in people with schizophrenia, thus it is the psychosis and not the schizophrenia responsible for said hallucinations.
If it's really to be able to provide yourself and/or your family with food, I have less trouble with it. If it's -only- for pleasure I feel like it's unnecessary. I can imagine the 'fun' in killing a big animal, of course. It's the feeling of power I suppose, a natural instinct we still got. It just got way too easy for us, now that we've got guns and all.
>>538372818 >One morning I'd be waking up and she'd be cutting my leg in half. I'd freak out for a second, patch it up, and make violent love to her.
You're fucking retarded.
See: >You cant just machete wound yourself and not pass out from the immense pain and shock, much less do all the stitch work, clotting, etc, daily life movement required to FUCKING STAY ALIVE.
You cut that main line in your leg and you're fucked. You have maybe 15 fucking seconds to rip open that wound and clamp shut that artery before you lose consciousness and die. Good fucking luck doing that yourself much less another human being. You might as well be trying to tie spaghetti in a knot thats covered in grape jelly while jabbing yourself in the eye socket with a stick. Then IF you get to the hospital, most likely your leg will be amputated.
>>538373068 Everytime you hunt its for consumption. That going to a fenced in ranch and sitting in a treehide isn't hunting either. Animals all must be hunted now. It is a part of the lifecycle. You cant just stop killing an expected 30million animals and not expect the entire fucking ecosystem to collapse.
>>538373837 I must admit, you do have a point. In a way, some species would be growing in numbers way too fast. On the other hand, nature has a way of 'fixing' her shit. Unless, for example, some retard released some kind of fast breeding animal into an area they're not supposed to be in, to get rid of another species. In that case, it has to be dealt with.
>>538362768 Could be either one. But most people that post pics are doing it for attention. I've known a couple cutters and they try to hide it not post it on fucking tumblr. I've also never seen any nearly as bad in this pic.
And that's the fundamental tension - between, as I said, 'innocence' and 'experience' - which animates any philosophy that makes concessions to nature. Romantic poetry and the Biblical story of Genesis are basically all about that. Should our 'superior intelligence' be curtailed by morality?
>>538373821 Yes, and wanton cruelty is one of the simple pleasures in life. You should ask yourself if your moral objections are really warranted. If people enjoy hunting and they can fit it into their schedule and all, why not? To people like me, you sound like some extreme Christian who hates pre-marital sex, but to you your moral perspective is justified because an animal is harmed. It matters to you, but not to me. Yes, we are all animals, but we are also all individuals with individual motivations and opinions. Though it may be unethical to kill someone who could be of some benefit to you, emotion wins over that primitive morality. If I got sublime pleasure from killing people, I wouldn't want you to tell me my actions aren't justifed. Of course they aren't justified all that well, but it's fun, and I don't want you taking away my fun.
Again, I've been on here for a while. There was never a gore thread back in 2004 which didn't have plenty of reactions just like his. Stop imagining some golden-era /b/ filled with emotionless nihilists who hated everything. It was never like that.
>>538374496 Hallucinations can absolutely be positive signs of the presence of schizophrenia, but they are rarely actually stemmed directly from the condition.
There are without a doubt cases (almost always with only auditory hallucinations) where psychosis is ruled out, and hallucinations are attributed purely to the schizophrenia, this is generally because the patient is in a state where psychotic episodes cannot be observed (see: we can't tell when a episode begins or ends). This point is generally only reached because the patient is seriously disturbed (for lack of a more appropriate word) and antipsychotics have proven completely ineffective.
Whereas the more typical cases are what I described earlier where the patient has psychotic episodes and are referred to as schizophrenic, but treated for both schizophrenia and psychosis.
It's really just a jumble of semantics in that sense.
I'm not going to take away your fun, buddy. When it comes down to it, there are simply different kinds of people in the world - that's clear, I get that. You can get neurological and say that some complex cluster of 'mirror-neurons' in my brain naturally makes me abhor cruelty and that you might be lacking that same group. In the end, all generality is pointless. And, by extension, so is all communication which couldn't be completed with hand gestures.
>>538375290 >>538374293 >>538366428 i enjoyed the discussion with you, you made pretty good arguements, you go my respect for that. i am off to bad its 4am here. goodnight and cheers
heaven on the other hand can suck my dick he didnt even explain shit he just came and went: hurr durr u no sad for cute animals u r mentaly messed up hurr durr. back your shit up with facts and arguements i never argued with other posters anyways we had a civilized talk about our opinions.
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