Lost city edition
This is a general about slave trainer games and the creation of games where you play as a male and dominate women. Discussion about games not being created here is also acceptable as long as it's related to the topic at hand(ie playing a male and dominating women).
If you're working on a game and want to list a pastebin here speak up please.
Major Versions of the game (BT is necessary for mods):Silver edition and Russian edition are the most active
Each of these is a standalone game, not a mod for any of the others. BASICALLY the links to download the games are in this pastebin.
Maverick wrote a guide for scripting. Shows how to write/structure scenes for coders. Good for idea-guys & script-writers:
Info on character generators:
Links to other games
Rogue-like by Oni
Witch trainer dress up thing(back by popular demand)
Korra Trainer/Breaking Bat/Incredibles trainer/Tifa trainer/Momcest trainer/Ben ten trainer/(Anon projects not related to Witch Trainer)
Contact info for major contributors:
Report & ignore shitposters, people that scream proxyfag/samefag/waifu/waifufag, people that post beast and hamplanet attention whores
Asami as Dom.
They could probably switch to be honest, but Asami has more scope for interesting gadgets and seems they'd be more comfortable with 'lifestyle' D/s stuff than Korra who'd generally top in bed.
Well Tropic, if you still read these things, I went ahead and donated to cap you off at $100 per month so you can pass your milestone. I played through your demo and actually enjoyed it quite a bit. Here is hoping for more soon.
With a note that I am not afraid to rescind my money if there is no progress by the time next month rolls around.
That is Akabur type thinking.
Donations are donations. The money I just gave him has nothing to do with purchasing more content and everything to do with encouraging him to continue working on it. So if it seems like he has stopped working on it to me, such as another two weeks of inactivity on top of the current 3 weeks of no progress, I wont be afraid to drop it like its hot.
True. Not exactly paying for a service. It's essentially tipping to help them out and show appreciation. If they're not doing what they promise, no point in actually tipping them, is there?
(not the Anon you asked)
The guy started the slave trainer trend that resulted in dozens of upcoming h-game project and mods, but yeah, fuck him amirite?
I understand why you might think that what he does is shit. There's not much CG, the writing ain't stellar and it feels like he's slacking off.
But his art is actually good, the writing is still better than 90% of the current english h-game production and he's one of the few that ends up actually releasing what he's been working on.
I'm not even pledging to him. But how full of shit do you have to be to say he's a jew and doesn't deserve a dime?
Akabur got all his ideas from Japan like everyone else and he didn't so much start a trend as he did cause a bunch of disgust that led to rivals. You didn't see this kind of proliferation in the wake of PT. If you want to keep falling for his scam after WT, you define the proverb "A fool and his money are soon parted." Was the fact that he's just now finishing his first popular game not a big enough clue? And you only need to take a cursory glance at his ask.fm to see what kind of an asshole he is. I bet you didn't play WT vanilla after waiting two months past the expected release date. I sincerely thought he had released a troll version of the game to screw around with pirates!
Are you kidding me with this shit? Fuck off, shill.
I did play WT the day it was released and I thought it was fine (not great).
I reckon it might just be me but I actually enjoyed the selling favours grind despite the lazy chibis thanks to the writing and their buildup. So the ending being the only scene with actual CGs didn't bother me that much.
If you can only get off to the CGs and can't be bothered to read the text than yeah WT is a fucking scam. But in that case why play a game? Just change your pledge to InCase or subscribe to fucking Jab.
The proliferation you mention is idiots jumping on the bandwagon thinking they'll make easy patreon cash (and some do). How many of them delivered anything past a shit and/or buggy demo? Even established CG artists like Sunsetriders7 are going up in flames because making a game is hard and in his case his scope is so absurdly big he won't ever deliver a final version. Not in a lifetime.
The only new guys I'm thinking of that are delivering are Marble Syrup and that's prolly because their games are the length of a couple Akabur scenes.
So maybe if Akabur wasn't close to being the only one that is actually getting stuff done, some of his pledges would be redirected to other devs and he would make a fair amont of money, rather than a killing.
In the meantime, complaining because someone has a monopoly when he has no competitors is the dumbest thing you can do.
>he didn't so much start a trend as he did cause a bunch of disgust that led to rivals.
He hit $10k a month easily with all that "disgust." The only disgusting thing is your jealousy and thirst.
>You didn't see this kind of proliferation in the wake of PT
Because he didn't have a Patreon, so none of the copycats could see him making money off his games. Once everyone saw him make $10k everyone jumped on the "proliferation" bandwagon. Look at this very fucking thread, notice how all the /stg/ games are on Patreon and not tumblr/blogspot anymore? Wonder why? (The answer is money)
No one needs to shill for Akabur, he's making his money. But you jealous shitters need to go too. "He's greedy! He's lazy! It's a scam!" As opposed to the "serious efforts" of every other content creator? What is TrainerFan getting $270 a month for? What is Tropic getting $100 a month for? You think anything they've made yet is worth a fucking penny?
Name one other western artist catering to your fetish faster or better than Akabur. That's right, there are none or /stg/ wouldn't be 75% about him and his games, and 25% about kids trying to be him. The first fucking links in the OP wouldn't be about Akabur if there was anyone other than him doing it. Grow up and stop crying.
Yeah, I love writing reports while I wait for Hermione to chill out! I didn't play that sad excuse for a game until BT. Fuck you.
Seven billion people in the world, a sucker is born every minute. I see you're one of them. Also, the disgust I was referring to was on the part of people willing to make games. And stop fucking comparing Akabur to anyone making less than a thousand dollars a month. Jesus Christ. For someone telling other people to grow up, you sure seem to have a shit sense of how little $270 or $100 really is.
I hate you more than I've ever hated anyone. You have no clue how this scene works and it's pathetic to watch you try to defend Akabur. It's like watching a rat trying not to drown.
The theft in their first unknown game is one thing, but keeping shitty cheatcodes and walkthrough for their $10 pledging patrons ? That's actual jew garbage. No wonder they make so much money.
Meanwhile the Bitch Trainer mod for WT/PT (entirely free and no Patreon-only content) starts off with a picture of the happy merchant as Akabur...
You can have your "dream sex slave trainer" game in your head all you want, but if the only people that are actually making the games are Akabur and a bunch of childish knockoffs, then yes, Akabur is less shit.
>b-but I deserve more! Akabur isn't my hero!
Irrelevant. Everyone sees him making his money, everyone has played the games he's made. If talented programmer/artist types want a piece of the action they can prove how much faster/better they are. Though if /stg/'s wannabes are any indication, Akaburs seat at the top of this thread is pretty safe.
>I see you're one of them
I've never given anyone a dime. Try again, faggot.
>was on the part of people willing to make games
Quit hiding, name names, shitbag. WHO was disgusted? Name one talented artist or programmer that was disgusted by Akabur. Oh wait, you fucking can't because that never happened outside your delusions.
>you sure seem to have a shit sense of how little $270 or $100 really is.
Buddy, $10k a month is fucking pennies. There's meme games on steam selling 100k at 5 bucks a pop. Kids over on /agdg/ are trying to be the next Risk of Rain or Undertale everyday, they're not interested in the pennies someone like Akabur makes. Your whole argument was "Akabur doesn't deserve money for what he does" yet people like Tropic and TrainerFan do?
>I hate you more than I've ever hated anyone.
I speak facts and reason, and your brain blows up. That's fantastic and really speaks to your maturity.
>You have no clue how this scene works
What scene? Dig through the archives. This "scene" is Akabur games, and everyone that thinks they're too good for them but can't stop talking about/playing them.
>and it's pathetic to watch you try to defend Akabur.
I haven't defended him and I don't have to do any such thing. Just fucking look at yourself.
You didn't understand my post one bit.
Just because other people are shit doesn't make anyone else less shit. It's the very definition of a failed argument to claim otherwise.
I also don't get where you are getting the second part from. I never said anything to the contrary. Akabur is shit, but he is still among the top guys in his field.
You do sound like some incredibly retarded fanboy trying to defend some genuinely shitty developer and asshole.
>I speak facts and reason, and your brain blows up.
>You didn't understand my post one bit.
I'm starting to think YOU didn't understand your post one bit.
Show me another game besides Akaburs that is a western "trainer" game. There's Akabur's "shitty" games, and then there's literally nothing.
>$10k a month is fucking pennies
Which uber rich hellhole you crawled up from? 10k is a month is pretty huge, especially in Russia where the USD skyrocketed in the last year to about 70 rubles.
I know, it's hilarious. See where that faggot said he "hates me more than he's ever hated anyone?" Little shitter should be on a T-shirt.
Simply stating the obvious caused him to melt the fuck down.
That doesn't make him less shitty though despite you continuing to claim otherwise.
One pile of shit doesn't magically turn not shit just because there is other piles of even more shit.
You just don't understand basic fallacies, do you?
Have you ever heard of hyperbole? Please continue to sperg out. This is better than television.
Fucking autists lmao
>just because there is other piles of even more shit.
No, you're not getting it.
There's Akabur's shit, and then there's a pile of farts. There's NO other pile. There's a stinky ghost, but no actual other products.
>broken dreams and make-believe
See the difference?
There is other games. Stuff like Bend or Break. You just ignore those.
And even if there were none, that would still not make his games any better.
Is a game automatically good just because there is no other game like it? No, so stop claiming it makes it less shitty.
The quality of your work does not magically increase because others are worse or don't deliver anything at all. You still can't grasp this very basic concept and I doubt you will, as long as this goes against the guy with his dick down your throat.
>claiming he isn't shit
>and how everyone else is worse than him
Everyone else clearly is. You can't be better than Akabur until you actually make something more than a proof of concept or half-baked demo.
Do you think I'm HAPPY no one is faster than Akabur? Do you think I'm PLEASED that no one else can make the types of games he makes? Do you think I want Akabur to be the only content creator dropping anything?
>You can have your "dream sex slave trainer" game in your head all you want, but if the only people that are actually making the games are Akabur and a bunch of childish knockoffs, then yes, Akabur is less shit.
>You can't be better than Akabur until you actually make something more than a proof of concept or half-baked demo.
You can, very much so. Quality of a game isn't just defined by it being finished. Your demo can be way better than Akabur's stuff and I would hardly consider his Witch Trainer anything more than half-baked either.
The only sort of good game he has done is Princess Trainer and that's it.
With the amount of money he gets every month, he could easily make decent games, yet he doesn't. If anything it makes him more shit than the others as a developer. Not saying it has impact on the quality of his games, but on the quality of him personally as a developer, just to add that before you try to read into this whatever you want again.
Never said better. All I said was there are others and your continuous claim that there are none is total bs.
It doesn't need to be better for his to be shit anyway, so it's not important to my point, but there being no other games seems to be your only point for claiming he is less shit. So even if that would be a feasible argument, it's still wrong.
>There is other games. Stuff like Bend or Break.
This game hasn't been finished. By contrast Akabur has released 2 finished games.
>And even if there were none, that would still not make his games any better.
If there were no other games then by default his games would be the best. That's what happens when you have no competition.
>Is a game automatically good just because there is no other game like it?
Yes. Shitty games on consoles sold well in the past simply because there was nothing else like them. People liked these shitty games because playing something was better than playing nothing.
>The quality of your work does not magically increase because others are worse or don't deliver anything at all.
Yes. By comparison you appear better because you've provided something.
>You still can't grasp this very basic concept
You are the one who has failed to grasp that without any other finished games to compare to Akabur's games he is automatically the best.
>2 finished games
You're really stretching the definition of that word. By Akabur's own admission in all three of his games, they're unfinished.
The best != not shit
When will you finally grasp this concept? You can be the best in a very narrowly defined niche and still produce shitty games.
Just because shitty games sell they don't magically get better either. They may be all there is, but they are still shit.
You really don't get how none of that is in any way related to the actual quality of work, huh?
>There's Corrupting the Priestess,
Finally. 30 posts later someone actually mentions a feature complete trainer game that isn't a tiny single scene demo/wip/proof of concept.
I actually love CtP. The world is fun, Alaine is written well and the story moves in a logical way.
1. The art isn't shit, it simply isn't there. Literally the only actual art of Alaine is the intro screen and some chibi sprites. No CGs, no interstitials, nothing. It's like everything that people complained about Akabur to the maximum.
2. The pacing is pretty slow. Like people complaining about the books in WT or the gold grind in PT, you have a similar grind in CtP that results in you blasting through weeks without reading the repeating info just to get to the weeks over. Fantastically, the story elements change based on rep so after each jump it's worth it to slow down and read the text again.
3. The formula is basic. Like PT, you start with no money and have to put your "slave" to work. Earning money and grinding rep unlocks seedier environments that allow you to earn even more. This is a cliche that will get very tiring if we get a dozen of these types of trainer games. I'm not saying it's awful, just very similar to what we've already seen.
If CtP had art, full portraits, CGs, etc, it would be a very strong competitor to Akaburs' work. As it is, it's still a compelling Trainer game, and I hope Pyorgara has learned enough to expand upon it.
>10k is a month is pretty huge
For a single kid scribbling porn, sure.
But you'd be hard pressed to pay a professional artist and a programmer to make games for you with 10k a month. And if indie game developers are dreaming of hitting the bigtime, they're dreaming of Notch money, not Akabur scraps. Toby Fox has probably made more off of Undertale so far than Akabur will make in a decade. And Fox can shit out Undertale 2 whenever he likes and watch it fly to the top of Steam's best sellers.
>You can, very much so. Quality of a game isn't just defined by it being finished.
Yes it is. A shitty game is better than a high quality demo. Even a game as terrible as Big Rig Trucker is superior to any game that was never completed.
>With the amount of money he gets every month, he could easily make decent games, yet he doesn't.
I wasn't aware that you were such an expert on how much games cost to make. Since Akabur gets $120,000 per year can you provide examples of other better games made with a similar budget.
>If anything it makes him more shit than the others as a developer.
Can you provide some examples of developers who've done more with less money or in less time?
Magic shop is unfinished but Witch Trainer did have a definite ending. Princess Trainer ended on a cliffhanger, so it's more like Akabur planned a sequel than didn't finish it.
Also remaking a game doesn't mean the original was unfinished. Especially since major companies keep remaking their old games.
>There is a game that is actually good
>"I actually love CtP"
>Doesnt bring it up himself, instead waiting for somebody else to bring it up.
Its not like this is a formal argument, you cockmunch. You get no points for anything. The fact that you waited for somebody else to bring it up is just proof that you dont give a fuck about the contents of the argument, you just want to argue.
>When will you finally grasp this concept?
We already have. You are the one failing to grasp the concept that without a better game shitty games automatically become the best game.
>You can be the best in a very narrowly defined niche and still produce shitty games.
No one is arguing against this. However you are failing to grasp that being the only person in this niche automatically makes your games the best regardless of how good they are.
>Just because shitty games sell they don't magically get better either.
If they sell then they're still better than any game that doesn't sell because it was never finished.
>They may be all there is, but they are still shit.
If you're trying to find the best game in a genre and there's only one shitty game available guess which one is going to win.
This game has charm, some feels and is in overall enjoyable. However its grindy as 'fuck'. Even after having gone back to the previous jobs with higher level, you have to constantly rush through weeks to make enough cash to pay for the outfits and repairs.
I spend 4 hours on this game before giving up. I like it, but most of it is filler.
>Also remaking a game doesn't mean the original was unfinished
it does when it's explicitly stated in the original game that it's unfinished. And there are multiple scenes in both PT and WT that say that.
It's cute how you are still trying to defend him.
>A shitty game is better than a high quality demo. Even a game as terrible as Big Rig Trucker is superior to any game that was never completed.
That just sounds desperate, like you are grasping at straws now.
The quality of the work itself doesn't change just because there is some final scene. A shit game will always be shit, no matter if it's finished or not, and a good demo is a good demo. There is demos out there longer than actual games.
>I wasn't aware that you were such an expert on how much games cost to make.
And you are?
I am not an expert on how much a game costs, but I know how much programmers cost (I am one myself) and how much artists charge for commissions.
If you need a programmer for Ren'Py you are either absolutely retarded or simply need him for some scripts that can easily be commissioned and don't require you to pay a programmer full time.
He could have also included more art in Witch Trainer by spending only the money he gets in one month based on how much commissions actually cost, especially since he uses modular assets.
I am only in planning stages (won't be a trainer), but I did some research on how much art would cost me. Yes, good art isn't cheap, rightfully so, but you can easily afford it with 10k a month.
And yes, everyone can easily find developers having done better games with less money or in less time, they are just usually not porn games. Simply check some successful RPG-Maker games on Steam done by teams without any money poured into it during development.
Corrupting the Priestess is pretty fucking great, if you like text-only games with a dash of art. Since I do, I'm pretty hyped for this guy's next game.
I'd even give him some money, if not for the fact that I really don't want to.
>You are the one failing to grasp the concept that without a better game shitty games automatically become the best game.
I do know that. I even commented on exactly that in the post you quoted me from.
However, you don't seem to understand that your game can still be shit despite being the best in a very narrowly defined niche. That doesn't change the quality of your game from shit to not shit.
>If they sell then they're still better than any game that doesn't sell because it was never finished.
They are only better selling, but do explain how that magically improves the quality of the game.
>If you're trying to find the best game in a genre and there's only one shitty game available guess which one is going to win.
Doesn't make the game any better though. A shit game is a shit game, no matter if it's the best in it's niche.
>The quality of the work itself doesn't change just because there is some final scene.
The quality changes if there is more than one scene, though. Demos like Bend or Break aren't even games, they're proof of concepts missing entire feature/concepts that turn a clicking slideshow into an actual game.
I don't know why you're arguing on behalf of these demos, even the people making them don't want you to judge them against complete games.
>Toby is living comfortably by now I think.
If I could write, art, and program an indie game, who would I want to be? Akabur and his piddly 10k a month? Or Toby Fox and his huge windfall? Everyone claiming that Akabur is some rich greedy jew has no idea how much money there really is in indie game development. If Akabur was really greedy, he'd drop the mature content and try to shit out some meme game on Steam.
Just because there is more of shit doesn't necessarily make it better either.
Bend or Break is definitely a demo, but it's still a game.
I never argued on their behalf though, that is you reading stuff into my post.
I simply said that there are other games and that Akabur's games are shitty and that he sucks as a developer. I never made any claim as to the quality of those other games existing.
But it's funny how you went from "there are no other games" to "don't compare them to finished games" because you see how that first claim was essentially bullshit when all you need to do to find more games is to go to the initial post of this thread.
>others making more money changes how comfortably Akabur can live off of his stuff
I don't really see where all that money he gets is going. There is definitely not going nearly as much towards new games as there could be while still living comfortably and setting enough money aside.
>I don't really see where all that money he gets is going.
Why should you? It's his free money, why would you give a fuck where it's going? If I had that cash I'd spend it on coke and guns.
He's claimed all along that he isn't taking cash in exchange for work/perks/updates. Like others, he calls it a tip jar.
I know you think you're being superdank posting that image, but he's 100% correct in his advice.
You shouldn't go into games, much less porn games, if you're into it for the money. Not only is there an endless number of ways to make more money in related fields, but for every success there's 10,000 failures on the side of the road.
And I'm particularly saddened that you think $8,800 is somehow a lot of money for an artist or game maker. The Five Nights at Freddy's guy probably wipes his ass with 8.8k gold plated toilet paper at this point.
It's exactly the reason why I don't give him any money (anymore).
I don't expect him to spend all of it on his games, obviously. I don't even see it as paying him to do what he does. But I do see it as paying him to enable him to do what he does and kind of expect some progress when he is clearly asking for money for his work.
This is not a "pay me to do nothing" kind of thing. People are giving him money for his work.
If some charity you are giving money to really doesn't do much but keeps saying "don't worry, we'll feed the homeless eventually", would you still give them money? I doubt it.
And you do know one of his goals on patreon stated he will make pateron a priority, posting lots of updates and sketches? So yes, he actually did say he is taking cash in exchange for work and updates despite calling it a tip jar.
>just because others make more, he isn't making a lot of money
You know the difference between Akabur and Scott Cawthon? Scott Cawthon sold a finished product and it caught on, he actually delivered stuff and didn't ask for money in exchange for doing nothing. You really can't compare someone making money of a completely finished game to what Akabur is doing.
No The Five Nights at Freddy's guy is an evangelical christian. Who genuinely believes god talked to him in his sleep and told him to make videogames as his divine mission (not a joke)
As a result he donates all of his money except for his frugal living expenses to charity and church tithe.
But he is a good person I guess.
>But I do see it as paying him to enable him to do what he does and kind of expect some progress when he is clearly asking for money for his work.
I've never given any of these guys money, but if I did, it would be because I like things they already did, not for stuff they may or may not do.
I'm ready to admit that I'm in the minority on that, clearly, seeing how most patreons haven't ever produced jack shit and are earning money just fine. But a few, like Akabur, actually have completed work they can offer up as a reason for you to tip them.
Take CtP. It's already "done" and released. If I subbed to him it would be for that game, not for anything he's promising to work on in the future. As such, I wouldn't be butthurt like you when he didn't deliver on some promise I never read.
>This is not a "pay me to do nothing" kind of thing. People are giving him money for his work.
And apparently those people feel that they are getting their money's worth. If you don't agree, you don't have to pay him, but the amount of whining about other people paying him has gotten pretty ridiculous. "How dare he collect money from people willing to give it to him!"
Thanks man, I don't really care about the money but the fact that you enjoyed it makes me happy
Sorry for the lack of patreon updates, I've been doing behind the scenes stuff while I wait for art assets so I don't think most people will care if I flood it with bullshit about python crap
But luckily due to blizzard-chan I get my violet clothing assets this week and I'll be able to make the next version of demo
also this is the clothing sketch i'll probably go with for violet
Belt should be lopsided though
Holy shit, really? Legit games in a culture obsessed with real pornography make more money? Stop the fucking presses and roll out the Pulitzer, we got a regular dynamo on our hands!
If you're the same stupid annoying faggot who's going on about how Akabur's games are the best because everything else is shit (it's hard to follow along with all the tl;dr and not giving a shit), then it doesn't surprise me that you think because 80,000 is a number, 8,000 isn't a big number. They're both big numbers, nimrod. You know how much money a month you get from a full time job paying federal minimum wage? Around 1k a month after taxes. Akabur's doing pretty goddamn well for himself. Plus he lives in Russia. 1 rouble equals 0.013 USD and guess what he gets paid in.
Saying Akabur deserves that kind of money for the amount of shits he gives about the people who give it to him is so buttfucking stupid, I'm surprised that anyone who thinks it isn't a full-blown homo. He has CONSISTENTLY shown a lack of regard for his fans to the point where he takes pride in it. I can accept that it happens, but do us all a favor and shut the fuck up about how good he is. One day soon, he'll be at the bottom of the barrel and you'll look like an even bigger fucking idiot.
You think PT:G isn't going to be the same shit? Top fucking kek
>Scott Cawthon sold a finished product
This is the only thing you said that means anything.
Akabur didn't, and possibly couldn't (legally) sell any of his works as titles on steam. For both the sexual content and copyright infringement, his current work can't be sold.
At any time he could move away from both of those obstacles and make content that would be Steam friendly. And VNs are catching on in Steam now so he could make a hit and do very well, probably better than what he's scratching up on Patreon.
>absolute no doubt complete beyond complete 1000% finished
Meaningless. The only thing that matters is getting paid and how. And there's tons of shit flat out killing it on Steam.
Not butthurt, just think he is a fucking jew and there was someone in this thread with Akabur's cock down his throat so far it almost came out the other end.
I can see your reasoning. But why would I pay someone monthly to keep working on his stuff like he promised when he doesn't follow through?
Or why would I pay someone monthly for something he has already done if he isn't creating anything new? In my opinion you just don't really deserve monthly funding for a one time thing. A one time thing warrants one time money in my opinion.
People are not just complaining about him making money (I have no problem with him making money), people are complaining about him not keeping his promises and others claiming he is some sort of god at what he does despite not delivering shit.
I never complained about Akabur up to this thread. Granted, I am not on /aco/ for long as of yet, but what is ticking me off are those fanboys, not him making money. I couldn't care less about how much money someone makes, but I do care about a dick of a jew being glorified.
>This is the only thing you said that means anything.
And it's basically all I said in that post and my entire point. So?
You are still trying to argue that just because someone else makes more or he might be able to make more (his games would most likely not stand a chance against actually good games on Steam), he is not already making quite a lot of money.
Just because Bill Gates made more money than Steve Jobs doing essentially the same thing, doesn't mean Steve Jobs didn't make a lot of money.
And no, it is not meaningless whether you actually sell a finished product or never finish a product and ask for money to work on them and then don't follow through.
Try to run an actual business like that and you'll see just how meaningless that is.
>You know how much money a month you get from a full time job paying federal minimum wage?
Why the fuck would I care?
If someone has ANY programming ability they will NEVER make minimum wage. Unless they're horrifically retarded that is, which you're giving that vibe off so perhaps I'm jumping the gun, you mongoloid.
>Saying Akabur deserves that kind of money
Here we go again. If a street musician puts his guitar case down and it's full of hundreds at the end of the night, who the fuck are you to say he doesn't "deserve" it? You can be jealous until your face melts off, but how can you say he doesn't deserve the tips people are throwing at him?
>One day soon, he'll be at the bottom of the barrel and you'll look like an even bigger fucking idiot.
Oh, I finally get it. You think you're going to take his money from him don't you. I was only half joking about the "you're jealous" shit, because I didn't actually think you were one of the wannabes. So tell me, tell everyone, what have you been working on. "Change my tune," show me your game. Stop the games, stop the run around. You wouldn't, no you COULDN'T be as mad as you are unless you thought his money should rightfully be yours.
So cut the crap, post your work. You can't just be a jealous shitter alone. If you're going to take his money away and put it in your patreon, you have to post your work. So where is it?
I'm going to chime in and say
If a company hands you 8,000 dollars lets say to work on a project, it's not justified to say I'm going to use 1,000 of it and the rest i'll put it in my pocket
Like it's not a job
It's people giving you money to work on an intended project
and their intent is that you use the money that they give you to work on that project
not to go spend it on an off brand android phone or to pay their rent
>BUT MAH TIP JAR
Tipping is stupid
>But why would I pay someone monthly to keep working on his stuff like he promised when he doesn't follow through?
Again, I don't pay anyone. But if you wanted a reason, it would be fairly straightforward. Since he can't/won't sell the games independently, his Patreon is how you buy/support them. So if you liked the games he's already made (I'm not saying you did, I know, everything he's ever done is 6 million holocausts, mememememe) then you would kick him cash on his Patreon.
Trying to pay someone online for something they say they might do sounds particularly stupid in my mind. But again, I don't pay for patreons at all, nor do I pre-order games, buy early access, or any of that other garbage.
I'm american you fuck
Tipping is fucking retarded because i'm basically paying some dip shit in a restaurant to not spit in my food because his boss doesn't pay him enough
How come I don't have to tip my garbage man?
Or my postman?
It originated because some fat fucking faggot decided he didn't want to pay his workers
And now people do it because its expected
and Fuck you
So you do admit there is no reason at all to pay him.
Btw., that "6 million holocausts, mememememe" part makes your otherwise sensible post sound retarded. You've gotta know when to actually do that shit.
Didn't get banned for too long yesterday?
At least it wasn't another 3 days for a bs reason.
Oh look, it's you again. The shitposter who demands everyone hand in their homework before they can join the classroom discussion. Where's your fucking homework, cunt? I've been working on mine all fucking day, just like last Saturday and the Saturday before that, etc. Know why I won't prove it? Because fuck dealing with judgement from /stg/.
As for the street musician, yeah, I can say he doesn't deserve it if he's shit or an asshole. I just did. So fuck off with that retarded argument. I just can't expect or demand anything of him, because he's only asking, not selling. Also Akabur deserves something, just not this much. Not that I expect anything of him. See how that works?
And you're missing the point. 8k a month is a lot of money. But you don't get that so I'm not gonna bother trying any longer. What a waste of time you've become for everyone today.
Really? What for?
I was there for all your posts yesterday and nothing warranted a ban of any sort.
I thought you were joking when you said it's really mods being dicks. I mean I have done some shit on other subs and never been banned.
>So you do admit there is no reason at all to pay him.
What are you talking about? I "admitted" that when I told you several posts ago how I don't have a patreon account and have never given any of these jackoffs a penny.
I'm telling you, in your specific question, when you've already admitted to giving him money in the past, "why would you give him money today." And the only answer I gave was that I, personally, if I would donate to patreons of people, I'd donate to those that have produced content I've enjoyed, NOT patreons of people who MIGHT produce content I MIGHT enjoy.
Now, I specifically left you an out for you to say "I've never enjoyed anything Akabur has ever made he's the worst shit." Becuase that's what we're doing here. But if you like PT, or WT, or even magic shop, and you give to patreons because you have the extra cash to throw at things, you would be giving it to Akabur for the enjoyment you've already received and for a length and amount comparable to that enjoyment.
>Know why I won't prove it?
You're consumed by jealousy and wont even take the first steps towards overcoming it. I'm trying to help you, spaz. Post your work, get some interest going, quit obsessing about Akabur and how much money/fans he has.
Focus on you and what you're doing. And the first step is to step up. Post your work. Show us what you've got.
>I can say he doesn't deserve it if he's shit or an asshole.
But who are you talking to, yourself, or all the smiling people that threw the money in? Crawl out of the hole you've dug for yourself.
>has a patreon
This is interesting. So how do you exactly see the money coming in from Patreon to you? If it's not a "tip," how do you see it? Do you feel you have a contract with the Patreons that support you? What is your financial obligation to them? How do you propose to reimburse them if you fail to perform?
I see it as someone paying for art assets and coding
Similar to how a publishing company pays a studio to work on something
It's not money that I have to go spend on a sushi dinner or to buy me a new pair of blue suede shoes
Any new games or updated versions of games worth checking out that have come out in the last 1 1/2 months? My pc died back in November and I finally got the parts to get it up and running again.
>Similar to how a publishing company pays a studio to work on something
Well, usually studios have a proposed budget to work under, with milestones and deadlines. And at the end of the day the publisher owns the work they've paid for.
Do you have any of those issues in mind for your project? Would you give any of your patrons that kind of influence?
I think of it like this
The budge is the amount I have at the current month
Milestones is what that proposed budget can finance in the month
And since I'm not charging them for the game the patreons can do it with it as they will
Heck if they feel like it take the build and try to sell it to some sucker
I won't stop you
their influence is about as much as activision gives to tony hawk
>posting work is a way to get results.
TrainerFan and Tropic both have patreons that are trickling in money and they've barely started. Artguy, TMP, and more get mostly positive comments.
But even negative feedback is important. Anything you post moves you closer to being a creator, and less of just a hater.
Interesting personal perspective, but I'm still not seeing it.
Everyone that drops cash on you is doing so with no real recourse to how you spend the money. You could actually spend it on sushi and shoes and there's jackfuckall they could do about it. And since you're not delivering an actual product in exchange for a fixed donation amount, there's no specific commerce going on other than just the donation.
It's a good perspective to have I suppose, but it would be like a waitress saying her tips are not tips but pre-agreed contractual amounts designated for the purpose of accelerated service. There's conceptually nothing different between your patreon account and a tip jar. At no point can you be held liable or need to justify how you spend your patreonbux.
But it's still nice that you think of it in a more traditional commerce like fashion. Perhaps that helps motivate you.
Oh, you. As much as I'd like to stress out that stg doesn't think I'm as good as the fbi's newest target, no thanks. You guys are a lot more forgiving of artists whose work you can't reproduce than writers whose work you think you can reproduce because there's a keyboard in front of you. I saw what happened to TrainerFan the other day, and I'm too fragile for that shit. I'll just keep mine under wraps and despise people who demand to see homework before you can participate in the classroom discussion, thank you very much.
People are not just complaining about him making money (I have no problem with him making money), people are complaining about him not keeping his promises and others claiming he is some sort of god at what he does despite not delivering shit.
Peopel complain about Akbur "not finishing anything," and yet unfinished or not, his games are still far and away the most content-rich games on this thread, probably the most content-rich porn games out there. I mean, if you don't feel they deliver "enough" then that's your business, but plenty of people have good reason to believe that they have delivered plenty of content to be worth supporting further development. That's not "being a fanboy," that's being appreciative of the work he's done so far.
>If a company hands you 8,000 dollars lets say to work on a project, it's not justified to say I'm going to use 1,000 of it and the rest i'll put it in my pocket
>Like it's not a job
>It's people giving you money to work on an intended project
>and their intent is that you use the money that they give you to work on that project
>not to go spend it on an off brand android phone or to pay their rent
Nope. Does not apply. He is a single person company. Any money he "pockets" is his salary as an employee of that company, and he can do whatever he wants with it. The only way he could get in trouble is if he made a stretch goal like "hit $5000 and I'll hire someone to code for me," and he then doesn't do that, then sure, promise broken, but otherwise, he can spend the money on whatever he likes. Now, if you don't like what he's been spending the money on, then you're free to stop supporting him, and that's the balance he has to take, but he never owes anyone anything that he hasn't promised to deliver.
>the most content-rich
Not even close
Akabur dosen't hold a candle to 90% of studio made japanese porn games
His only saving grace is that he isn't japanese and considered "western" despite being based in russia
>the most content-rich games on this thread,
>Akabur dosen't hold a candle to 90% of studio made japanese porn games
You see the mistake you made?
Yeah, Akabur's games aren't as feature-rich as the Japanese ones, and if you prefer those, play them, but his are easier to read. Personally I prefer to just view ripped CGs from the Japanese games rather than actually play them.
Well yeah it's justified. Or are you supposed to buy $8000 worth of hardware and software for every project you're hired on? Fuck no. You cover expenses to have what you need to be working, the rest is yours.
Why should your employer care about what you do with the money he's giving you? He's buying the time you spend on the project, and he can fuck right off if he thinks you're paying too much for your rent or that your phone is too expensive.
Here's a tip for you: "video games" != "machine-translated japanese VNs"
There's nothing to enjoy in "playing" this kind of VNs. Soon you'll be saying you played through HuniePop for the match3 minigame.
>hates on akabur
>wants to replace him
>"I'm too fragile"
>"I'll just keep mine under wraps and despise people"
So, let's recap:
1. You're a "writer" but you don't think your work is good enough (or will be received well enough) to show to anyone in this thread even though it's obvious you've been here for over a year.
2. You've been gnashing your teeth seething in a jealous rage over how popular and "rich" Akabur has become, feeling it should be you instead.
3. Now Akabur alone isn't worthy of your ire, even people that would ask to see your work during your jealousy fueled tirades against Akabur now land on your shitlist.
Son, I like you. You're like a old school comic book villain. Not a supervillain, of course, just some guy who's going to "show them all someday!"
But, yeah, sitting around, constantly flinging shit at Akabur, that's not the way. You've got to get your own game made, and in doing so you'll realize it isn't free, none of it. Akabur isn't some supergenius, but making games takes work and skill. You really should hustle as hard as you hate.
Finally, I hope you do finish your game, and I hope it's better than Akabur's stuff. Not only for your sake, but that means I get more and better games out of it. But again, that's not going to happen if you can't get over your jealousy. Godspeed, jealous writefag.
Hey guys, I posted a brief update on Momcest Trainer's blog at http://momcesttrainer.blogspot.ca.
>It's been quite a while since the last blogpost, so we wanted to reassure everyone that we aren't (quite) dead yet. Development entered a bit of a hiatus over the holidays, but it has since started to ramp back up.
>Since the last progress report, there have been many minor changes and a couple of larger ones. The programmatically generated masturbation diary text mentioned in the previous blogpost has had quite a lot of additional work put into it, mostly to add flavor and variety. The code was also refactored to support third-person text, so on schooldays during which random events do not occur, the son will now sometimes daydream sexual thoughts about his classmates, teacher, or mother. The sentences the generator spits out can still be a bit clumsy, but hopefully you'll agree with me that they're all at least somewhat erotic.
>Our artist's drawings are in the process of being implemented, and things are looking promising. Every morning, the mom picks out a semi-random selection of clothing to wear for the day, so as more art gets created, we'll start to see an exponential increase in variety as she mixes and matches articles from different sets. Each garment sprite also has a chance to get tinted one of several handpicked colors, hopefully adding to the diversity of her possible outfits. Tinting can be disabled for apparel that should not change colors (such as cosplay onepieces or leather wristbands). The idea is that players will eventually be able to unlock outfits in-game, which will then be added to the mom's pool of available clothing.
>Thank you so much for your support and interest!
I suppose I might as well post the other two screenshots here as well.
Wow what an actual good idea
Fuck me, I'm mad that I didn't think of it
+1 for you
I have encountered a better one.
Fifty bucks to enters the forum.
He's already in it, but there's been talk of replacing him with some sort of sex goddess because Pepe's become too mainstream for 4chan these days.
It's probably still going to be a while before we can release a demo. Lots of scenes still need to be written and implemented--we've been focusing on other things because not all of the mom's facial expressions are finished yet.
And thanks for the feedback about the tagline; you're probably right now that the game is more than just an idea.
there's a dozen translated VNs that might be worth playing... like, sengoku rance, sharin no kuni, grisaia, chaos;head, steins;gate, phantom of inferno, when they cry series, euphoria, divi-dead, bible black, discipline, starless, prison battleship, swan song... monster girl quest is a fun novelty, but furry is gross. ok that's 15++ as WTC is a series. still not nearly enough and many of these don't have porn.
machine translation/basic japanese gets you through 99% of nukige crap. if you wouldn't read it in japanese you wouldn't read it in english. case in point: japanese starless was boring and i've had english starless on my computer since day 1 and barely played it.
The character model is still off balance. Either her right leg needs to be out in front of her more, or the left foot needs to be straight down from her belly-button, but either way she looks like she's either half-way through a walk cycle or seconds from falling on her face.
I'm only flinging shit because you're sucking his dick so loudly. Otherwise, I wouldn't bother.
Little do you know, it was me, yesumregpb all along! tropic has the right idea but he's not the master shill himself
Or am I?
Nope, only for patreon.
There is this only for public : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjZq0kVM43E
They released a "demo" for patreon like, 4 week ago and said the demo will be out for public "Today or tomorow" every day, for 3 weeks straight.
Then they said they wanted their cg artist to make some images for one scene before the relsease of the demo. They want a completed intro.
Bu the CG artist was "ill" for 2 weeks and now they say he is a jerk because of some internal drama inside the team.
Meanwhile, they are still waiting for the cgs, and they are still saying "today or tomorow".
Well, last time was one week ago.
This thread is fun.
There is even someone who use akabur as an argument somewhere between page 15 and 20.
>I'm only flinging shit because you're sucking his dick so loudly.
Yeah, except you've been flinging the same shit for a year straight. That's entirely too long to be assblasted.
I want to see your game, and I want it to be good. Not because it's better than Akabur's, but because you really put work into it and make it your own. I want tons of games, and I want them all to be good and do well. You should want the same.
Violet clothing and facial expressions are done
Corruption clothing 10 - 50 will be up tommorow
>That's not "being a fanboy," that's being appreciative of the work he's done so far.
The guys going to great length to defend him whenever someone says he is shit I consider fanboys, not the guys just pointlessly throwing money at him on patreon. I don't think it's a wise thing to do, but hey...
However, at least one guy here had Akabur's dick pretty far down his throat and that's the guys I was talking about.
It still stands that he makes promises and doesn't keep them. That's simply not a person I want to conduct business with in any form, much less give him money for nothing.
But "most content-rich porn games out there"? Seriously? In what kind of world do you live? Are you seriously ignoring all those big titles made in Japan?
Oh, what about Unteralterbach? It's a community made project from Krautchan, so not even a commercial product. You can get it for free and there hasn't been any funding for it that I am aware of, ever. So they produced something with a ton more content and actual CGs (also better written in my opinion, but that's just an opinion) without funding of 10k a month.
And no, you didn't just claim "in this thread", your statement got a whole lot bolder right after the comma, no matter how hard you want to backpaddle on this.
>You cover expenses to have what you need to be working, the rest is yours.
But you also actually work and get the project done, that's the kicker. Akabur himself said nothing he did was finished.
But nor did he ever set a deadline. If he wanted to, he could keep working on this thing for decades and he'd still be delivering 100% of what he's promised. Not that I do believe the conspiracy theories that he's deliberately stalling this out, I think he'd like to move on to the next project as much as anyone, and that his cashflow would continue regardless, so he's just making PT:G as cool as he can make it. If enough people disagree with that philosophy then his cashflow would dry up, but apparently it's mostly just shitposters who don't pay him anyway, so why should he care?
As the guy you actually asked, cause I like his shit. I pirate all my porn, but not his. I've enjoyed his games and the genre he helped popularize. I guess I give him my money even though he does very little in a way that faces the end user in a rapid manner because I'm not Jewish enough to give a fuck about $10 a month.
>there will never be a star wars mindbreak slave trainer game
this will never not be sad
because most of the femdom is not a "real" femdom, that is female really being in charge, and more about pandering to male fetishes and will to being dominated but just that specific way they want. In a way even female dominas are subs, lel.
Have your context:
>Peopel complain about Akbur "not finishing anything," and yet unfinished or not, his games are still far and away the most content-rich games on this thread, probably the most content-rich porn games out there.
Yes, you did claim they are the most content rich games in this thread. But right after you claimed they were "probably the most content-rich porn games out there". The context does not change this statement to also mean "in this thread", if anything it clearly expands the claim to games outside of the thread.
So no, this was not about context, the meaning is still the same. This was about you making a claim so broad it just had to be bs.
I don't pay him anymore.
Yes, he never set a deadline. But he did say he was making patreon his absolute priority once a goal was reached (and it was and still is reached).
I also don't think he is maliciously stalling development. I rather tend to think that he is content with what he is making off of patreon and has gotten lazy.
But it still stands that you do eventually finish your projects. However, he said he wasn't going back to WT, leaving it unfinished.
I just simply think it might really help things along if other people would start dropping his patreon as well. He might see that he actually needs to show progress and post updates and it would probably help to move things along and then people should get back on it. But the way things are he doesn't have any reason to actually follow through with his promises or projects, because people apparently don't care and give him money regardless.
I am German, not an American.
And no, I do not. I only have one green plastic fedora from a carnival costume somewhere in my basement, I think. That is unless I already threw that out.
I don't happen to be one of those trilby wearing, atheist neckbeards, I was merely implying that edgy guy was, which you apparently didn't quite get.
THEN WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU USING THAT FUCKING STOCK FOOTAGE?! TAKE A SELFIE OF YOURSELF PROUDLY TIPPING YOUR OWN GREEN PLASTIC FEDORA AND POST THAT TO SHOW THAT INSTEAD OF THAT FUCKING STOCK IMAGE SO YOU CAN SHOW THAT YOU'RE BETTER THAN THESE NO-HAT OWNING LOSERS
>he cant handle the bantz
>on fucking 4chan
Too bad Hitler was an idiot when it came to military tactics. It's because of that we have to put up with Americans spewing their lack of culture everywhere they go. No wonder the better educated ones pretend to be from Canada.
His wife was supposed to do more art, but she got a job. They'd need to get enough backing for her to have the time to do art for their games full time. I think it was 4000 a month and she'd be able to quit her job and work with him full time?
>Yes, he never set a deadline. But he did say he was making patreon his absolute priority once a goal was reached (and it was and still is reached).
And that seems to be the case. I don't see him producing work for anything else. That doesn't mean that he cannot have a life, of course. No rational person would expect him to spend his every waking hour on the game.
And as for Witch Trainer, yeah, he said he never intended to finish it. There's nothing wrong with that, he didn't claim that he would finish it. It was just a project he was toying with and got bored with it and moved to something else.
So what project did he ever finish so far?
And no, I don't expect him to spend every waking hour on the game. But making it a priority is more than just not working on anything else. If that were the case, you could still call it a priority if he never touches his patreon and just sits around on his couch at home.
Making it a top priority is definitely suggesting there will be more updates than there previously were. There are not.
But I don't see why you (presumably continuously) defend him in the first place.
Are you throwing your money at him and can't admit he is a dick of a jew, or do you just have his cock down your throat for fun?
>So what project did he ever finish so far?
If he straight pulled the little scenes where he whines about being "rushed" and wanting to do more (Lola and WT's tutoring for example) you'd have really no idea where he wanted more content but gave up. Your only argument towards his games being "not finished" is him saying in-game "I wanted more content here but gave up."
Literally every game developer ever could say the same about their games. That doesn't make the games "unfinished" it makes them finite.
With the arguments you've given so far, all he would have to do to "finish" his game would be:
>Pull all the bottles with X's over them in Magic Shop
>Pull out Lola's quest line out of PT, delete the "extra room" from the shack
>Delete the phoenix and pull the events leading to the tutoring tease
If he did these things prior to release you'd have absolutely no way to know these features weren't "finished" unless you dug through the concept art. Is he liable for that too? Is any scrap of concept art proof that his games are "not finished" if it doesn't appear in the final product?
If that's not what you're talking about, if those aren't the projects and the "unfinished" state, and those aren't the features you're referencing, then explain yourself. Putting little signs in his games saying "I wanted more here" is stupid and fishing for complements, it's terrible design decision. But it doesn't mean the games aren't "finished." It him begging for compliments/encouragement/subs to "help" him expand his games.
>Making it a top priority is definitely suggesting there will be more updates
This is even more curious, how many updates qualifies a priority to you? Once a week? Everyday? Every hour on the hour?
The other anon is right, the fact that he's not doing his business on HU or some other site builds evidence that Patreon is his home/priority.
I never said he had to deliver a certain amount of content, but if something that was previously not a priority gets made a priority, I expect more rather than less updates.
He got lazy because he doesn't have a reason to work anymore.
And how about that one public favour scene on WT with his poor self insert saying he didn't write anything for it?
But yes, the creator saying something is unfinished makes it unfinished.
can someone post a hypno slave save so i see what (little) i am missing?
i know that it isn't a great game, but i'm curious and already downloaded it.
it's grindy, pathetic and russians are shit at everything they do. there's no sense or explanation behind 99% of it.
i realized my mistake of taking body/equipment level ups and that they were useless and put levels into servant upgrades, but all i was doing was increasing HP. eventually fox outleveled me and smashed 4 of my vitals before i even broke her armor. when you're winning, you can at least treat it as a task to get more XP. when you're losing you don't even get to learn anything from it and you lose all your resources. why bother? there's no coming back from that shit. fuck russia, fuck slavs. fuck aussies.
>trolling by OP
There's only about a dozen people that come to this thread regularly.
Every single one has a special flavor of autism that can be triggered by posting single words. OP might not be a troll, but you can assblast this entire thread with ease if you know what their delicate sensibilities are.
People keep obsessing about "finish." These are amateur projects by people having fun. Half the games on Steam never get "finished" and yet millions of people enjoy them anyway. Most MMOs are never "finished" and when they do that's a bad sign. The important thing is that he released "release ready" versions of both PT and WT, and while they both had room to continue growing, they were plenty of fun in and of themselves, and that's fine. I couldn't care less about him "finishing" anything, all I'd like is for him to continually product additional content.
>But I don't see why you (presumably continuously) defend him in the first place.
Because people are being asshats about it and I'm a contrarian. He's made some games that I enjoyed, he's inspired a lot of other artists that likely wouldn't have bothered otherwise. I don't think his desire to make a decent living off his work or for people to want to support his work are at all inappropriate. I think he's done a lot more good than harm, so I'm a bit tired of the constant shitposting, while accepting that it will continue regardless, because shitposters.
You're the only shitposter in this discussion, faggot. Could you please fuck off already? You are without a doubt the most ardent Akabur supporter this general has ever seen and all you've done is make us hate him even more. This isn't accomplishing anything except killing posts. It was fun for a day, now it's not. So fuck off with your bullshit. Nobody cares.
Adding content to a finished game is entirely different than never finishing a game by your own admittance.
And really, amateur project with 10k funding a month? That's not truly amateur anymore.
Saying what's shit about Akabur is hardly shitposting. But you do have his cock down your throat so far his balls are most likely preventing you from seeing that.
If all it takes to trigger your spastic ass is mild praise for Akabur, I'm going to come to this thread and do it all the fucking time.
You've got all the makings for a delicious lolcow.
I'm with you man. While I haven't payed anything to Akabur's Patreon, I thoroughly enjoyed both PT and WT, especially PT. WT could have been better with more CG but it had better gameplay mechanics than PT.
I look forward to PT:G I just wish he could finish sooner rather than later. Better he puts out something he's satisfied with though. Not like I have a choice anyways.
Other trainers aren't anywhere near as good in comparison in my opinion.
Then you're a shitposter who will continue to sabotage Akabur's reputation here. Good job? Not that he really needs your help, useless cunt that he is. As for me, I intend to start ignoring Akabur praise until PT:G comes out, starting now. It was fun yesterday, not today. Have fun with your futile arguments. I hope you get banned for it sometime.
>Then you're a shitposter who will continue to sabotage Akabur's reputation here.
OH NO!! WHAT A TRAGEDY!
Your extreme butthurt at the mere mention of Akabur or his work is plenty of entertainment and serves as a decent advertisement for his games.
Tell us more how you hate anyone that supports him or his work. I want to bathe in your tears.
>replying to yourself
Super nice dude
I couldn't say anything before because I got banned again but I really like the body of this one a lot more
Mostly because you know how to draw boobs and butts which my current guy can't do
Although I still like the other one's face more
Why do none of the princes trainer/bitch trainer links work?