Yeah right, a 155cm asian girl (the physically weakest human race) can beat the shit of a tall big muscular aryan man.
There has to be a limit to this bullshit
I haven't seen this episode yet but she's wearing combat gear(the gloves especially) and appears to have just landed a fairly accurate uppercut straight on the dudes chin in a stance that would imply she's twisting her body to give it a bit more power.
That shit'll fuck you up if you're not expecting it.
Based on the guy's outfit, it's a fantasy setting. In fantasy, regular humans can kill dragons and giants, while being physically vastly inferior. Compared to that, a little girl beating a normal sized man seems simple.
Also, he has a sword but isn't using it, he's clearly a retard.
>Big guy who just wildly swings
>Small girl trained in CQC
Dude got fucked up, and rightly so. Autism strength doesn't cover defense, only offense. He probably would've given her a hell of a beating if he landed the blow though.
Holy shit, anon stop it with your autism.
Have you ever got your chin lifted in a fight?
No matter how big you are once your chin goes upwards you'll lose your sense of balance and is prone as fuck to takedowns
It's totally believable that a small well trained woman could beat a big guy who was not on guard against her.
lmao this nigga has never been hit with fucking hard knuckle gloves. Those things will fracture any bone in your body man
Do you know this emblem?
Of course she has it and a tactical gloves.
She's been through military training.
That faggot abuses girl rabbits.
Wonder why he lost.
Lol at people that think modern soldiers have more than two weeks of martial arts training. That dude has lived in a world of physical hand to hand combat since he was born. He could rip her in two.
>All these femlets acting like they could beat up a heavyweight boxer.
>making fun of JSDF
Better be ready for the beatdown.
I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as winning, is in fact, losing a shitload of people, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, suffering a minor genocide. Driving the enemy out of your country is not the only criteria that you should judge the outcome of a war by, but rather one priority among many, like for example protecting your people, your economy, your infrastructure and your quality of life.
What I don't undestand is people getting angry at this. What the fuck is wrong with /r9k/, they hate women and get triggered by everything they do and yet they insist on watching anime.
Just watched that episode. Once the fact that they enslaved a Japanese citizen was revealed, I started shaking with anger. Would've put a cap in that prince's skull if it were me and made the kind my bitch then and there. Fuck diplomacy.
Vietnam objectives: Drive out the Americans, reunite the country under glorious communist regime.
American objective: Depose communist government in north, reunite country under glorious puppet governm- democracy, yeah democracy.
Which side won?
Something to keep in mind here is that this was more of a political loss than a military one.
The American government might have wanted that war, but the American people didn't. Guess who comprises the US military? The American people. They weren't willing to risk getting shot over a war that they didn't want. This went double for drafted men. Commanders were pretty much forced under threat of a grenade flying into their tents in the middle of the night to behave like massive pussies and avoid pushing the assault. Pussy tactics don't win wars.
In a morden battle (aka. Shooting with guns). Bigger guys mean bigger targets for us. U just need to strong enough to take aim and pull the trigger. In hand to hand combat that mean ALOT of different
Nigga, she is a girl who spent a quarter of her life in training herself for combat; both physically, mentally, and socially.
The other is a guy who spent the entirety of his life indulging in luxury and other unhealthy practices.
Size matters not. Experience is the greatest compensator
SDF>Imperial Japan>United States of America>Feudal Japan>Other World Feudal English/Mediterranean>Present day Europe>Everything else not named>Australia
Asian here. My imouto is a bit shorter than that and she's recounted several incidents to me where she overpowered boys her age and older, in some cases supposedly better trained, than her at times. She doesn't have the control to get the most of out techniques but she really can pack quite a punch for someone only a little bit taller than Aoi Yuuki.
The smaller one was well experienced and equipped with weighted knuckles.
Size is all but just for intimidation. Everything comes in how full you can use your limbs
Joe Greenstein was just 5'4 in size but he once beat up 18 Nazis singlehandedly using only a baseball bat. They were so badly beaten that they cannot even testify to charge him of assault (they were the ones who attacked him)
>"martial arts" that rely on grapples and throws
I hope whoever was training judo as a kid got raped in their stupid asshole when they ran into someone who actually wanted to hurt them.
>allowed into the military in a combat role whatsoever
That's right, weaken your fighting forces from the inside goy. Workplace equality is more important than the security of your family and children.
I've seen plenty of people in real life knock others out through wrestling Tbh. Especially in a crowded area, if you can't wrestle you're getting slammed head first into concrete.
Japan had a long history of letting women in combat, even leading armies. Shit only changed when Confucianism arrive
>the only other martial art is karate
I'm more of a krav maga/muay thai/plain ol kickboxing guy.
All your training goes into the shitter when fight gets real anyway, so you might as well just memorize where strikes hurt the most and replicate them from training.
If this show had any realism to it her CQC training and CQC experience would both be subpar and the price would be an experienced brawler and she'd get her ass kicked.
But hey, it's a show about wanking to glorious Japan.
Muay Thai is easily the most effective granted you get a decent coach and you fight people who aren't keeping distance. If you've got someone standing in front of you and you're good at pulling people's heads down and elbowing/kneeing the shit out of them you'll do well unless you're fighting an inside boxer in which case you're getting punched right in the kidneys/solar plexis and going straight down.
Grappling is useful though, especially wrestling. BJJ if by some meme magic you end up on the ground is insanely useful.
Through joint training I can tell you Japan's CQC training is subpar as it is. Her opponent was a pussy noble though.
The only real bullshit in the series so far is Japan's """loophole""" allowing them to explore this land.
In reality the USA would likely say "Haha, no." and immediately walk all over politicians to get in there and exploit the fuck out of any natural resources they could find.
We already pretty much do that to Japan. It's terrible but we do.
The sheer number of white knights clamoring about for a literal fantasy anime character are nauseating.
/a/ really is reddit/tumblr.
Shame on you old folks for not standing up for the board.
Had Nixon remained president North Vietnam would have been detached from asia.
>She's been through military training.
This is kind of weird though, you'd expect the guy to have some kind of training himself. I mean it's not like martial arts are a 21st century thing or that they're limited to Asia.
maybe swordsmanship, but it diden't suprise me that the girl was stronger.
the 21st century world has more knowledge about different fight styles/technique than a world that lives around the dark ages
I once downed a kid downed a kid who was almost a foot taller than me while on a cruise ship. He was harassing another girl, so I gave him a good solid kick in the nads.
The girl told me to leave, that she would take him to the infirmary and cover for me, so I never did find out how seriously I hurt him.
>In reality the USA would likely say "Haha, no."
Gate was written at the time period of the Bush administration.
He was incompetent, Americans did not support him, and the entire world thought he was a joke.
It isn't really bullshit at the time of writing, since he wouldn't have been able to pull of such strong arm tactics on the Gate without a 9/11 to pull public opinion.
Bush was a lot more intelligent than he let on, similar to Trump, Jeb, and Bernie. Politicians can't get that far in on nepotism alone.
He would have pulled on America's heart strings about how those evil Japanese Nazi sympathizers were going violating all our agreements and how they were resurrecting Hitler's legacy and beginning the 4th Reich and then he'd have one our own ships in their ports firebombed and start pointing fingers.
>35 years old
>close combat training on NCO level
The logic of the anime is the usual Japanese tendency to play victimhood by pinning all the evils of WWII on the big bad US of A. Never mind the invasions, exploitation of the natives, and sexual slavery.
>If this show had any realism to it her CQC training and CQC experience would both be subpar and the price would be an experienced brawler and she'd get her ass kicked.
It has nothing to do with realism. She's a CQC nut and a lot more trained in it than the other guys in her unit. She didn't learn how to fight by joining the military, but by spending years training herself because it was her hobby.
Are you a fag?
The shape is to wield it on a horse.
>on a horse
Are you sure you're not supposed to use those recurve bows on horseback or plain shortbows?
Learn Japanese weapon history. Originally Samurai is heavy mounted archery.
6"6 bear here
back in my cage fighting days (high school bullshit, no were near professional) i encountered a 5"3 asian that wanted to fight me. he was a fast little shit and landed a lot of solid punches and kicks but they weren't really doing anything to me. it seemed like he was hurting himself more than me, it felt like i was being hit by a child, i finally caught the fucker and slammed him ending the fight.
im not saying you cant beat someone bigger than you but god damned there's a limit.
Even the strongest woman in existence would lose to a man the same size at her with no training, fuck off back to Tumblr you piece of shit.
I once slaped a bitch(a rather weaks lap i might add) and the impact of my slap made her hit the wall behind her breaking her nose,i'm confident i could probably knock a bitch like Ronda Rousey out with a single punch and if you don't think you could do the same then end your miserable fucking existence you pathetic cuck. The difference in muscle and bone structure is just too big, no matter how hard a woman traisn she will never be able to compete with a man that has no training
I really wish this shit was written by some smarter and for a more mature audience.
We could've actually had something special.
I can easily break your jaw using knuckle gloves with steel shot in knuckles.
What a lot of people in this thread don't seem to understand is that those gloves she puts on are basically the same as filling your boxing gloves with metal/cement.
And they're DESIGNED for the wearer's safety.
If done like in the OP picture you're probably looking at a fairly easily broken jaw.
Having had to deal with a friend of mine who had his jaw broken I can honestly say if it happened in a fight that'd be the end of it.
Even if you did manage to continue whilst dealing with the jaw the slightest knock to it again, let alone a punch and you'll be very quickly grounded.
given you had the same amount of training. I highly doubt that you could knock out Ronda Rousely, she would probably get you in an armbar and bend it in in the opposite direction till you tap out or end up with a broken arm. I will give you the male to female physiology superiority, but training is the ultimate equalizer given the situation.
>Anybody with training can perform at least somewhat adequately.
Well, all that people looks like they are someway trained warriors.
Shooting people that hides behind a shield thinking they will be fine...that's plausible, beating on cqc people, that are soldiers too, who has used melee weapons as only weapons all their fucking lives is simply plain bullshit.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the show, but sometimes it fucks so muchs its own premise that is hard don't criticize it: "Look how modern warfare would rolfstomp this delusional fantasy world" then you put a japanese midget girl beating several guys in melee combat exactly like usually happens in those delusional fantasy worlds.
Maybe as soon as he used the force of his knee to strike her in the back yes.
Using someones force against them is a thing. I'm a 120 lb lanklet and I can move shit if I put it's force+mine behind it. So I think a trained well-muscled grill could do the same.
It's all physics bro.
Incredibly unprofessional soldiers. Approval ratings or w/e is no excuse, they should have been punished severely for ruining any chance at genuine peace talks. Using military might to strong-arm them into peace is just going to make terrorists a very significant threat when they eventually get their hands on some guns (and they will). Just a fucking cop-out to say "ohhh, but we can't do that because Itami, our lord and savior who can do no wrong, was responsible for bringing back 1 person and maybe another".
There are some serious bullshit moments in this series.
It was pretty sweet seeing this scene get animated. Zolzal is a shit and deserves that and more.
It's a bit more brutal in the manga, too - Kurabayashi really enjoys it, and Itami enjoys watching.
Shit like this is why I can't watch moeshit that takes itself seriously.
No point in watching that trash, the cute slut will wins all the fights except the bullshit emotional/psychological one that will make her go forward in her determination.
The odd of the bitch beating the shit out of bad guy in anime is 99,999% so why are you even surprised (while in truth they should get BTFO and raped).
Hilarious lack of knowledge.
Yumi's shape allows a longer power stroke. They were better bows than famous English longbows.
Asian archers were generally superior. Mongol grip is better for war than Mediterranean grip.
90lbs yumi is equivalent to 115lbs european longbow.
where were you when the empire got raped by a small Japanese woman?
most nobles were not trained fighters or swordsmen back during their heyday. Hell most kings couldn't read back in the 1200's. The reality is most nobility have hundreds of soldiers in front of them, so why would they even need to learn how to fight or better themselves? Nobility saw melee and hand to hand fighting as beneath them, so i have no doubt that the Prince got his ass kicked. And yes just because you are small doesn't mean you cannot do damage to someone larger. Plus its obvious that Koboyashi was well trained.
Longbows were typically had around 180 pound draw weight, while yumis typically had around 100 pound draw weight. Pound for pound the yumi was superior, but when it came to actual usage longbows far outclassed them.
Most nobles survived battles because they could afford more expensive armor, and usually had a guard with roughly the same level of armor.
Highly trained nobles wasn't a thing outside of concepts like War Prince, because they where trained for it. And they was rare.
FUCK THIS SHOW I'M AMERICAN ONLY AMERICANS WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THIS IRL THIS IS PROPAGANDA *EAGLE NOISES*. NOW LET ME GO BACK TO WATCHING LITTLE GIRLS BE WITCHES, AT LEAST THAT'S REALISTIC
There's too big a difference between people who practice fighting all the time and those who don't.
Just step into your local MMA gym with a competent competitor and get shit on. The only way you'd beat them would be through a lucky punch or them getting too cocky and fucking up.
Ladies and gentlemen, your strongest soldier in the world.
>i'm confident i can knock out a bitch like Ronda Rousey with a single punch
Yume is the way it is because Japan doesn't have the better materials to make a better bow.
If you tried to make a yume in the 150 pound range it would lose strength very quickly.
They didn't us the superior Chinese/Mongolian composite bows because they couldn't make them.
Ahaha a fat weeabo thinking he can knock anyone out that traind in hand to hand combat.
Eat more pop tarts you huge slime.
America has a top tier military force that actually has decent training and force projection.
The JSDF is a welfare program disguised as a military force, with awful training, awful discipline, and generally incompetent people.
Kind of like how some WW 2 fiction have Soviets conquering all of Europe and not say, Italy. The Soviets could plausibly pull it off, the Italians not really.
Point being that you're gonna get thrown the same as that bitch ass because regardless of how much "weaker" she is she's been practicing that shit nonstop.
She's one of the few women who actually put in the effort of sparring men in mma, look it up.
You want to see her spar someone you'd tap out to in seconds?
Sure, she can't win fights against men in the top like weidman or cormier, but she can beat the shit our of your weak ass.
I don't think Japan has any capacity to project force in that situation. Calling this an apples to orange comparison would be the understatement of the year.
I have no idea what you're talking about or why you're talking to me about it. Are you mentally ill?
Ever tried to hit a women that doesn't just slap her hands around and instead fights with a technique? Doesn't matter if you're a stronger male if your female opponent is faster and knows where to hit you for maximum pain.
If you didn't train in hand to hand than you're just someone that throws random punches and kicks arround, similar to an ape or an angry kid. Maybe you're even trying to imitate that one guy in that cool karate movie which makes you even more retarded and predictable.
Nevermind if the female has knuckle gloves like in OP. Being hit with that is like being hit with a brick.
Lets see a pampered royal prince who probably has lackeys to do 90% of his fighting vs. a highly trained trained soldier whos already demonstrated an understanding of close quarters combat and just put on the equivalent of brass knuckles.
Sure she isn't nearly as big as him but the scale was still stacked against him by a long shot.
If the author isn't such a autistic faggot, the CIA would bribe half of those Japs guarding the gate, send agents and weapons in, set up training camps those Japs will have their own Afghan.
Materials and shit is just an excuse. The fact is, historically speaking, the longbow far outclassed the yumi.
We could make longbows and yumis out of space age material and test them against each other, but that would be largely pointless because historical context is what matters.
I just watched this scene. Her being able to defeat those people in a melee fight is absurd. Soldiers don't get that much training in hand-to-hand combat and melee weapons (let alone melee weapon vs. melee weapon), and warriors in a medieval society don't do anything except hand-to-hand and melee fighting. And they outnumbered her too.
Punching out the prince is plausible enough if he's stupid enough to underestimate her like that, and stand there like an idiot. If they were to actually fight then I don't see how she could stand any chance.
Like I just said, women are at a severe disadvantage even if they have training. That's just how it is.
BANZAI BANZAI BANZAI
Warriors in a medieval society would have spent their whole lives training in melee and empty-handed fighting. A modern infantry soldier, even if she's gone through additional training, is nothing compared to that.
They could simply pay the ransom, or even easier, Abe could just say he won't try to mess with middle east's politic and support ISIS's enemies anymore. It's not their business anyway.
No kidding, Yumi can launch an arrow faster than a longbow at equal draw weight, but only because it has a longer draw.
Longbows, not to mention Composite bows can be made much stronger and release the stored energy more efficiently.
Materials is the reason the Yumi is the shape it is thou. Without good hardwood like the welsh have, the Yumi needed to be really tall to give it the long draw distance without over-stressing the bow. Too long to be held with the arrow in the middle.
This. Only America is allowed to glorify itself.
There are limits to what a government is doing to do for the sake of one person. And if I remember correctly what case we're talking about, the guy went there on his off and tried to get involved with the fighting.
Seriously, what is it about this anime that makes americans lose their shit? Aren't they also ultra nationalists too? The whole American Bear didn't appear out of nowhere
Him being an arrogant asshole doesn't preclude him from being a well-trained and experienced fighter, and it's normal for a prince to have a retinue with him. Even knights had a retinue when they were out on the field.
>people don't fear terrorist and make fun of them
No one really cares about ISIS prisoners even you. Some retards even like teracts because of schadenfreude. You don't know them. They're foreign people for you. And those "japanese prisoners" were retarded. Google about them.
That's just pointing out that the real Japanese government doesn't give 2 shits if it's people get captured, and won't take that much of a risk to free them.
Dropping bombs on the enemy until they give them back is what the USA does.
That's why it was stupid to insert idol from Idolmaster to gain some IM audience bux instead going with what was in manga. At least manga Kurabayashi was looked like she could do it.
Their spies inside the gate could just sneak the JSDF's weapon and supply for the empire forces instead. Pretty easy considering the corruption inside Japanese forces.
They don't need to do it on a routine basis. Both in Afghan and Syria, rebels force only received their support irregularly. They're fighting a guerrilla battle, not a conventional one.
You know, ISIS have their own magazine called Dabiq. They have hot sales with discounts. No one save prisoners though
>only America has black people
Not really an unreasonable assumption.
>Generic JSDF riflemen > Delta, Spetsnaz, and Chinese SF
The JSDF in that scene were special forces. They train with American special forces and if I don't remember wrong Delta helped establish them. Granted, the scene had a pretty clear "NIPPON STRONK" vibe going on. Then again, how many American movies and shows have had the same vibe?
Japan doesn't have the capacity to project that kind of force.
The gate is located in the middle of Ginza. The CIA would need to get in undetected, go through the base on the other side undetected, and have enough weapons and supplies to support themselves, arm the rebels and get back. And then they would need to repeat this trick many times.
Not to mention even fucking Pina got actual military training when she started playing knights and little prince was in top 3 in succession and had led actual military campaigns. So he probably had some real training.
The whole scene is totally misunderstood by 99.99% of noguns nonmilitary fags
Its established earlier that the US couldn't put a spy satellite over Japan at the time for whatever reason. The Japanese have their own satellite over head and command is relaying enemy movement to the ground forces in real time. The Japanese knew ahead of time that other nation's operatives were coming, so the JSDF was already laying in wait. Everyone else walked into a trap.
All the other operatives had gear purchased from an airshit store, and they were waltzing right into a waiting trap, completely overwhelmed. You can't fight against superior information.
>Warriors in a medieval society would have spent their whole lives training in melee and empty-handed fighting
History student here, nope not at all. And knight fighting is nothing like modern martial art.
The only reason that bitch even won any fights is because she fought women physically weaker and smaller than her.I do body weight training on a daily basis around 6 feet tall and weight 190 pounds.
No matter how you autistic cunts think that simply training in a martial art makes you a fucking super human capable of beating people several times stronger than yourself, that's not how reality works, i actually with someone that won a national championship at freestyle wrestling and he couldn't take me down simply due to the fact that he weighted 40 pounds less than me and was around 4 inches shorter, go fuck yourself retard.
The UK is a part of America
Actually it's pretty correct choice even without propaganda. Even if you don't care about prisoners, you will show enemy how good your country. They don't know about real Japan. Logical choice
France is a part of America
This is actually the biggest one, considering France actually has a deployment in Africa and recruit extensively from their former African colonies for the Foreign Legion.
god damn it, the image didn't attach
They aren't huge, but they are mostly pretty big people.
Women are also less aggressive and violent and more squeamish.
The context of the scene is that there are black agents in Japan, and the PM (or whoever it was) figured they must be Americans. And it's a perfectly reasonable assumption even if it isn't necessarily accurate. Not many countries have the balls and resources to send armed agents to Japan to kidnap people, so that makes America the most likely culprit.
You'll meet lots of 6//10s and 7/10 sluts that you get a huge boner for because theres nothing else around. Pretty much all of them are lazy shit only there to collect a pay check.
>The gate is located in the middle of Ginza. The CIA would need to get in undetected, go through the base on the other side undetected, and have enough weapons and supplies to support themselves, arm the rebels and get back. And then they would need to repeat this trick many times.
You realize the easier way is to bribe some high ranking officers in the JSDF, right? Not that hard.
Yeah, while the government is doing its best to find anything wrong in the army to fuck them over, you really think they would slip that easily and fuck themselves over? No army in the world is that fucking dumb
Criminal conspiracies and clandestine operations on foreign soil are in fact kind of hard. Especially when the place you're trying to pass through is located in the middle of one of the biggest cities in the world in plain sight, and is probably the most interesting and famous location in the world.
The JSDF would because their personnel is shit tier.
Not to mention a bunch of JSDF forces have American advisers. How hard would it be to convince some grunts to do a thing exchange for loads of money.
What's with this "American movies also promote extreme nationalism" some weebs use to defend this show? Anyone knows that any US show trying to take this shit seriously would be heavily criticized and become a laughing stock.
>knowing anything about foreing countries
American media is full of patriotism and self-glorification, yet if Japan does it even once all the americucks lose their minds. That's the joke.
>w-we didn't lose ww2!
>w-we definitely didn't get fucked up by two nukes!
>the U.S. definitely didn't invade our country, defeat our military overwhelmingly, then make us do whatever they wanted for five decades!
nips in denial the show
It's not that bad, probably the best or second in NATO.
The French can at least run their own operations in Mali, and unlike most of other non-Anglo ISAF nations they actually leave the wire to go on patrols and stuff.
Outch, j'espère que j'aurai pas de problèmes dans ce genre. Mon dossier passe en commission à la fin du mois, si ça passe je pars pour l'école des sous-officier puis régiment de transmission!
Which popular American media states that they should unironically invade another country and take all the natural resources. Then include a scene about those dastardly Canadians, Brits, and Aussies sending SAS/JTF2/SASR to Washington DC, then those SF getting BTFO by the equivalent of mall cops.
Then the next scene has HM the queen (or Tony Abbot) slamming her fist down on the table going "damn those colonials".
The author on his blogs, and basically all of Japan.
He's enough of a nutjob that he thinks Japan should not have surrendered to the bombs and fought a "conditional peace" against operation downfall.
that's the Persian/Levant composite bows.
Mongol/Chinese/Steppes composite bows don't degrade nearly as bad from temperate humidity because they use a different technique.
But if you bring them to a place like Vietnam the bows start breaking down. The Chinese had a problem with that during their invasion of Vietnam.
People often use this kind of reasoning, but it doesn't work that way.
You could say that in fiction the rule is that the bigger the lie is the easier it is for people to believe. The closer you get to everyday reality that people are familiar with (or think they are familiar with) the more realism the audience expects.
It's also a matter of tone, so what might raise eyebrows in Gate won't even be commented on in other anime.
>Which popular American media states that they should unironically invade another country and take all the natural resources
Japan was attacked first, and without any provocation. They didn't even know this parallel world existed.
>equivalent of mall cops.
So one person, then.
All they need is the cooperation from people inside military forces and they can openly supply the locals. The JSDF is basically trained by the US and there're many US advisers in their force too.
Any bow is ruined by excessive humidity, that's why proper care and maintenance is necessary. If you use a bow in a humid environment, you must keep it in a protective case when not in use. A composite bow isn't going to disintegrate just by being in a humid environment.
>The author on his blogs, and basically all of Japan
I want to believe you. Start by posting sources from not only the author but all of Japan. Prove your claim. And don't skip a beat. I want all of their opinions.
I guess I just find the prospect of a trained soldier beating up some other soldiers realistic enough that it doesn't break my fantasy anime.
We already went through this when the manga scene first got translated. It's boring and annoying seeing the same mneh mneh muh superior body mass mneh mneh fucking women bullshit get trotted out, again.
Why is that some fucking retards think that weapons follow the same rules as unarmed fist fighting?
A fucking 12 year old could ground a fully grown man if she got to use a weapon and got a nice blow to the head.
Using knuckle gloves that are designed to create concussive force as to disorient or knock-out your opponent, taking an uppercut that clearly will knock out pretty much anyone.
Bone is heavy, lead or steel even more so. If you think you could take a clean punch to the jaw from a knuckle glove then you are fucking delusional.
i swear i could post a webm of Major Kusanagi kicking ass and frogposters would bemoan how feminist fantasies have been shoved into anime as if we haven't had badass butch chicks since the fucking eighties
This particular scene is plausible enough because the guy doesn't take her seriously and gives her a wide opening, but I suppose most people haven't watched the episode or the show and are just imagining what happens in the scene. If it was an actual fight--and people are arguing about as if it was--then she would pretty much have no realistic chance of winning.
>If it was an actual fight--and people are arguing about as if it was--then she would pretty much have no realistic chance of winning.
Prince fuck face obviously have no clue how to actually fight hand-to-hand and considering that she is wearing a weapon that will pretty much end the fight should she land one to the head she would have a decent chance of winning.
She crouches and pushes up with her legs as she drives the punch into the jaw.
She has clear momentum given to her by her legs.
Being hit in the jaw by steel from force given to you by your legs will completely floor you.
Even if he took her seriously she would have a chance, do you think prince was a fucking CQC master?
What do you want to talk about? How the US should help them from the start due to the Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security or how they violate their own constitution by invading a foreign land?
Then she would shoot him, wow.
>He's also substantially bigger and stronger than her. If they fought, he would win.
Mass means nothing when she is armed, her punches would feel all the same. I agree that if he landed a good blow she would also be out.
There are dragons, elves, harpies and all sorts of other monster girls, a nearly 1 thousand year old lolitia grim reaper, and people say this one tiny party is unrealistic. Am i the only one that thinks this entire argument is dumb and an excuse to hate on it?
I was afraid the long break would be bad. But I still love this show.
The punch has to connect with the target and it needs enough force to do damage. It should also hit the head, because bodyshots do significantly less damage. It's going to be really difficult for her since she's so short. That's why she used an uppercut.
Just because women in Hollywood movies can kick everyone's asses doesn't mean that's how it works in real life.
>The odd of the bitch beating the shit out of bad guy in anime is 99,999% so why are you even surprised (while in truth they should get BTFO and raped).
You should watch more haremshit. Strong Girls suddenly become useless against evil rapeface guys all the time so male MC can save them. Hell, it just happened in the latest episode of Bahamut.
Nigger, she punched him underneath the jaw are you seriously going to say that will not knock him down? Did frequenting /r9k/ actually damage your fucking brain or were you just born that retarded?
The scene where the prince was cowering a guy literally drops dead right next to him.
The next scene has a couple senators or bureaucrats on the ground next to the dead mooks.
Killing people while on a diplo mission is already shitty enough, killing royals and government officials is worse.
If the rest of the world knew about that Japan would be in a world of shit.
>The punch has to connect with the target and it needs enough force to do damage. It should also hit the head, because bodyshots do significantly less damage. It's going to be really difficult for her since she's so short. That's why she used an uppercut.
I'm not saying she would floor him immediately again, I am saying she would have a chance from either landing a counter-blow to the head or slowly whittling him down with placed body shots.
>Just because women in Hollywood movies can kick everyone's asses doesn't mean that's how it works in real life.
In real life I expect a CQC trained soldier to at least have a chance against a slightly less trained prince especially when she has the clear advantage of using weighted knuckle gloves.
They are very much a weapon as well as a defensive item.
Anon you are missing the symbolism here. The prince and princess are symbolic of political and military corruption. They exist to help make the JSDF look good in GATE.
Pina is the leader of a squad of females knights & calvary. They are highly trained, very well disciplined, competent, and have taken every chance they can to prove themselves. Pina and her squad are symbolic of what Japan wants everyone to think their forces are. Naturally, they immediately side with the JSDF.
The prince and his lackeys are loosely knit, don't communicate well, and only really have their funding and status going for them. Poor training, backstabbing, power plays, no discipline, and "comfort women" are the words of the day in the prince's circle. The prince is symbolic of what Japanese politics and military currently are.
The manga's progressed a lot since this happened. Just like with corruption in Japan the prince has become ignored and not dealt with in the least.
I already said this:
>This particular scene is plausible enough because the guy doesn't take her seriously and gives her a wide opening, but I suppose most people haven't watched the episode or the show and are just imagining what happens in the scene. If it was an actual fight--and people are arguing about as if it was--then she would pretty much have no realistic chance of winning.
We are talking about a hypothetical fight between the two, which is not what happens in that scene.
So you are saying that a punch does not need to connect, does not need force behind it, and/or that a tiny woman can easily punch a tall man in the head? And you also think you're some badass who knows anything about fighting?
Yes, she would have a chance. Everyone has a puncher's chance in a fight. Doesn't mean she's likely to win.
>In real life I expect a CQC trained soldier to at least have a chance against a slightly less trained
She's a small woman who's had some modern day CQC training for modern day engagements. He's from a medieval society where fighting with and without melee weapons is the norm, and he has presumably been training his whole life.
In real life, a female soldier would most likely lose to an average civilian man.
this argument is reaching nonsense point were everything is based on speculation and "what ifs".
>She's a small woman who's had some modern day CQC training for modern day engagements.
A person in the thread mentioned that she gained the CQC-badge, so I assume that she is better trained than your average soldier.
Fighting might be the norm but the theory around martial arts and CQC is superior to self-taught old combat styles.
>>In real life, a female soldier would most likely lose to an average civilian man.
In real life, no average man would defeat Ronda Rousey.
I was really sad they didn't include the winged lion metaphor from the manga.
>Fighting might be the norm but the theory around martial arts and CQC is superior to self-taught old combat styles.
People in the medieval (and antique) world fought for their lives in wars and skirmishes using melee weapons and their bare hands. Soldiers and knights/elite soldiers were trained to fight. It wasn't just some people flailing around with self-taught bullshit.
>In real life, no average man would defeat Ronda Rousey.
In real life, Ronda Rousey wouldn't defeat Superman or Godzilla. And what does that have to do with anything? Well, nothing. We were talking about a female soldier vs. an average man. And from what I've seen Ronda Rousey is mostly hot air and media hype anyway.
Are you talking about your own childhood and trying to project it onto me or something? I never said anything about my childhood or any other personal experiences I may or may not have had, I just made various factual statements that appear to have triggered your feminist sensibilities.
You are all VASTLY overstating the effectiveness of these gloves. And this is a heavier duty pair than she is using.
They are not weighted at all, but do protect your knuckles nicely.
A roll of quarters in your fist would make a more effective punching agent, however.
The worst part was, all you wanted to do was tell Karen you liked her, that you didn't care she was taller than the other girls. You could've been two of a kind, outcasts against the world.
But then she made you eat dirt and half a worm and now you're taking it out on anime girls.
Kuribayashi isn't Karen, anon.
>some modern day CQC training
She's a fucking expert fight junkie. Also what other anons mentioned about medieval CQC, martial arts have evolved a lot since then ditching out unnecessary shit and focusing on more direct efficient approach. The guy still have weight and strength advantage for sure and could win if lucky but she holds the edge in combat prowess.
mfw american flatbow is superior that either of them, and is in fact the basis for modern compound bows
Yeah, and Goku got taken out by a laser beam
The guy just wasn't prepared
>Also what other anons mentioned about medieval CQC, martial arts have evolved a lot since then ditching out unnecessary shit and focusing on more direct efficient approach.
Yes Anon, people who have to fight for their lives are all about unnecessary shit and inefficiency. That's exactly how it works. Well done.
>people who have to fight for their lives
Against equally badly trained people. If its not broken then don't repair it they say. Until they find people actually bothered to improve and polish how to beat down people on the following centuries.
Are you fucking kidding me? I came to this thread to read about how this psycho killer bitch waifu makes everyone's dick hard, and your seriously debating whether she can beat the shit out of some royal fuckboi? For real?
Drop this shit and lets chat about how fucked up it is that she (an otherwise normal girl) actually takes pleasure in murdering people and brutally beating others half to death. She actually waits for the chance to kill in cold blood. How hot is that?
It's not so much that the medieval ages didn't know how to fight, or used inefficient methods, its that they didn't have the benefits of globalization.
You can look at any sport or competitive environment for reference, even video games. Regional competition eventually creates a superior strategy that most people will catch onto, but it might be shit compared to other regions, which in turn is shit compared to some guy who has practiced in many places and taken the best bits of everything.
Why do you think no one beats koreans at sc2? If you want a decent training partner you have to move to korea. You'll never beat them training with NA players.
americans and japanese write this wish-fulfilment shit of killing romans because they didnt have culture 2000 years ago
Europe has been a battleground for most of its history, with its various peoples fighting against each other and external threats. This is how armor, weapons, tactics and fighting techniques evolved to where they are today. In the times before firearms, there was nothing but melee weapons and bows, and people did nothing but train how to fight with them, how to defend against them and how to design better ones. They also used grappling techniques and other unarmed fighting techniques where necessary.
But yes, obviously these amateurs knew nothing about fighting and just sort of flailed around until the other guy died. It's not like their lives were on the line or anything.
I can't understand how you people come up with this fucking shit.
>All your training goes into the shitter when fight gets real anyway
>so you might use your training
Some Judo would do a good job of rounding out your repertoire too, if you can get over the judo chop shaped rod up your ass.
But you're essentially saying melee combat and strategy peaked when Prince Asshole was a kid and thus it's absolutely impossible a special forces fight junkie from the future with both on and off the job training could ever win against him barring him leaving himself wide open. You're going out of your way to say nuh-uh, the girl can't be badass, stop laikuing your waifu.
In a melee weapon fight people from the present age would be fucked against warriors from medieval times.
In an unarmed fight I think the prince would win because of training and an overwhelming advantage in size and strength.
>complaining that GATE is pro Japan as fuck
>entire series is JAPAN CONQUERS FANTASY LAND BECAUSE JAPAN STRONG DESPITE JAPAN BEING TOTALLY USELESS IRL
It's the same as the movies where the US troops totally wipe out a Russian base without casualties.
Jingoism exist all over the world.
Bro. Did you even read my post? Europe is just another region. Yeah, they had some good shit, but guess what? They didn't have all the shit. This isn't hypothetical, its literally world history.
The greeks had a strong history of wrestling and boxing, and I'm sure pankration is a decent representation of what the better trained soldiers fought like. It's a damn good fighting style, but look at how MMA has turned out now that global fighting styles have been thrown together. Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and Muay Thai has definitively come out on top, and while wrestlers have a strong starting point, in the end they all have to train some BJJ to stand a chance. Rome did not have BJJ or kickboxing. You can wiki pankration to see the types of moves they used, and see the very big (and reasonable for the sitation) focus on attacking with punches. But what happens when you attack Anderson Silva with a punch? It doesn't matter how bloodthirsty you are, or if "your life is on the line", he'll counter punch your ass onto the floor, with a good chance of ending the fight right there. The kicks the romans used were mostly solid donkey kicks, and they all knew the importance of good kicks for winning a fight, but compared to taekwaendo or kickboxing? No. They simply did not kick at that level. I doubt any of them could even do a round house head kick, let alone a very solid and normal side kick to the head, and those kicks end fights instantly. And don't even get me started on takedowns, wrestlers know a few good trips, but they have nothing on the multitude of take downs and weight manipulation techniques Judo has been training for years. Judo practitioners will always land on top, and from the top they will submit you.
It's the same as our weapons, we just simply have more technology for our fighting. We don't have to "fight with our lives on the line" to become skilled, because there is a basically a flowchart of responses laid out for us on what to do in a fight.
The greatest thing that is overlooked is that when they affixed Bayonets, they can still shoot with the gun.
So if you fight right, you stab. If you fight wrong, you avoid fucking up by shooting.
That's a really nice story, but she's still most likely going to lose if she fights the prince.
>It's the same as our weapons, we just simply have more technology for our fighting. We don't have to "fight with our lives on the line" to become skilled, because there is a basically a flowchart of responses laid out for us on what to do in a fight.
Where did this "flowchart" come from? Could it have come from... combat experience? Could it be possible that medieval armies also based their training on combat experience? Hmmmmmm.
>but look at how MMA has turned out
There are things that isn't allowed in MMA, which cripples it as a combat art. All sports have issues like that.
Kendo is a obvious example, since you are restricted in how you are allowed to move and score points.
Wrestling is another, because of limitations to perform damage.
That said, Experience is important. And I don't think any martial arts outside of Military training focuses on how to do full transfer of ALL momentum.
Momentum transfer seem to be something that you just learn as a part on how to perform the moves.
After all, a Punch is only 200-400N. A full body punch can reach 2000-4000N, because of how it works.
>and the impact of my slap made her hit the wall behind her breaking her nose
Bullshit. If shes not a skeleton then thats about 120-130 pounds that you managed to make fly, literally fly as thats the only way her face can end up on a wall, with an effortless slap.
>The difference in muscle and bone structure is just too big, no matter how hard a woman traisn she will never be able to compete with a man that has no training
Muscles, structurally, are the same in men and women. The difference is in how fast muscle is packed. No average guy is gonna be able to lift as much as some as the strongest women in the world.
Sounds like a chick desu
>Most nobles were not trained fighters or swordsmen
Anon you went full pleb. Most nobles throughout history especially Europe were trained in the art of war and fighting it was common for them to know how to defend themselves and even lead armies.
>Amerifats butthurt that for once they aren't the super good and strong protagonists
Every single time
Okay, that's a completely unfair comparison to make.
Setting aside that this is set in a magical fantasy world with dragons, the JSDF were RIGHT THERE in the anime; and on "Japanese" territory.
IRL, the Japanese civilians were in Islamic State and need I remind you that there is no effective fighting force against ISIS on the ground in that country?
Seriously, your logic is terrible.
>Japan would foil the operation of US,Russians,Chinese etc intelligence operatives
They can't even stop the Norks from kidnapping their citizens and running pachinko parlors and game centers.
>all these butthurt manlets denying reality
When will you ever learn?
I think that's just because the author has no idea how any of these things actually work or would play out in reality so he made the show as far removed from anything real as he possibly could.
what's this bullshit a cyberized woman model wouldn't be nearly fast enough to get on top of a tank before it gets shot to pieces, and her arms would've broken immediately, she shouldn't have even been able to pull
Yeah like all of the stupid shit he does he counteracts with doing something great. I mean they still yell at his ass and give him to a paperwork position and cut his pay. They are not going to severely punish a dude who saved some japanese hostages.
My god, all these little shits taking a piece of fiction seriously.
>mfw some people don't know about the top-tier Gate waifus
It's one thing if JSDF obviously uses their advantages/strengths but to engage the notRomans at what they were trained for is just ridiculous. Picking a close quarters fight with some random mook Roman Legionnaire would not be fuck around shit these were professional soldiers. The fact that this guy is prince means he would be guarded by even superior soldiers of elite status such as the Praetorian Guard.
With steel laced gloves, expertise in cqc, and a wide opening, and you think she cant land a hit? Holy shit senpai, really? All she needs is reach and an opening. Not to mention shes quick as fuck.
they're the third foremost military power in the world after the US and Britain (if we disclude nukes, which is the smart thing to do considering Israel by itself has enough to destroy the world)
Real life isnt DBZ kiddo. Anyone quick enough can land a punch in a fight. The question is how much damage will result. Considering the fact shes a trained CQC nut and wearing steel laced gloves the fucker would get hurt.
Right like a bitch who can barely break two cinder blocks could hit a lifelong martial arts genius in real life Ranma would buttfuck her in one punch
Why are realistically superior martial arts especially involving most of the banned today in official sports moves (like elbows, palms, shoulders, hips etc) are so underrepresented these days?
I got these gloves, and they don't do anything magic to my opponents any more than my knuckles already do.
They only protect my own knuckles from getting fucked up nothing else.
Only because Ranma lets her.
Remember that chapter where Ranma got him/herself under the effects of a fishing rod that made him/her love Ryouga? Well, Akane had the bright idea of interfering, and Ranma nearly murdered her in a yandere worthy moment.
Ranma is really frightening when pissed.
It's a boring ass outdone cliche. It's just as boring as
>Enemy military commander who is confident and somewhat arrogant
The fact that he has these traits means that he is a complete incompetent oblivious buffoon.
these kicks should barely phase Futaba
>Does the military even teach CQC anymore?
Especially those in special forces and those meant for guard duties like royal guards.
I've served both in the Norwegian Royal Guard and Panserbataljonen, I was trained in CQC unarmed, weapon(with and without bayonette), and baton both of those places.
Even though those skills only were useful as a royal guard on guard duty, it's still taught in other combat units as a way to find those with the fighting spirit and it doesn't really hurt to know how to fight close quarter.
That move still suggests strength and skill the average joe wouldnt have. Which is the point Im trying to make against the anon who was shitposting about being able to knock rounda rousey out because he fantasized slapping a girl into a wall.
>The JSDF is so worthless and pathetic that their power fantasies include beating up on people who are a few notches behind them on the Civilization tech tree.
Oh right, I forgot that the JSDF can also fight Chinese, American, and Russian spooks at the same time because they're just so god damn heroic.
Knowing how to do some move, even if it's really fancy and difficult, doesn't translate into fighting ability.
As for Ronda, she bragged about being god's gift to humanity and the biggest badass to ever walk the planet and then got knocked the fuck out by someone who supposedly shouldn't have been able to defeat her. Fuck that asshole.
If you post the result of you getting uppercut by someone with no gloves as hard as they can so we can compare.
They're not intended to be more devastating than bare knuckles, only to protect your hands and knuckles.
If you really want to fuck someone up go buy a brass knuckle.
Will male JSDF soldiers get brides form the other world?
Will at least on JSDF female soldier find a man in the other world?
I dont deny that. Men will gain more muscle in a shorter amount of time training than men. But that anon clearly states that the average joe, with an average diet and no training or athletics, can effortlessly beat someone like that. That is bull. Women like that already have feats far above them.
It's symbolic you see it's not the Roman Empire for no reason.
It was the empire most tried to emulate even today we masturbate about it Eagles as heraldry,fasces etc
fanboy empires such as Holy Roman Empire
pretenders to their legacy such as Austria,Russian,Ottoman Empires etc
I dont know if an average joe could react to that. And the dude in the demo was striking at her. It wasnt slow demo shit, it was swift. Not saying she can beat top tier male UFC competitors, but I dont see how most guys can go against that.
>she bragged about being god's gift to humanity and the biggest badass to ever walk the planet and then got knocked the fuck out by someone who supposedly shouldn't have been able to defeat her
Thats apparently what happens when people get drunk on fame I guess. Look at hollywood.
Oh shit nigger what are you doing!?
Even MMA fighters get their ass kicked by marines trained in CQC.
Please don't compare people fighting in a sport to people who are trained to decimate the opponent.
Yes strength and overall build of your body matters, but the way you're trained for combat really matters if someone is able to defeat the opponent or not.