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Macross Delta? More like Love Live Delta. As a fan of Plus

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Macross Delta? More like Love Live Delta.

As a fan of Plus I'm disappoint.
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>>135586952
>As a fan of Plus
Opinion discharged.
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As someone who thinks the original Macross TV is the best Macross series, I'm fine with Delta. They just want to do something more light-hearted.
The only thing I didn't really like was the magical girl-esque transformations. Except for that the episode was cool.
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>>135586952
>As a fan of Plus I'm disappoint.
Good. Fuck Plusfags.
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>tactical sound unit

pffffffffthaahahaahahaha
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>>135586952
>As a fan of Plus I'm disappoint.

penguintruth, plz
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>>135589064

You wanna fight nigga
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>>135589064
>Never watch 7
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>>135590266
>I almost burst out laughing when the valkyries did their fucking synchronized dancing section.
>Sometimes I can't decide is Kawamori is a genius or high off his tits.

High. The answer is high. This is the same guy responsible for Aquarion.
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>>135587140
SDF was pretty light-hearted too, and also very silly, it's just that people conveniently ignore that.
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>I'm coming
What did they mean by this?
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>>135590645
An high genius, yes.
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Well, guess we'll see how it actually turns out.
Could go either way right now
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>>135590646
>it's just that people conveniently ignore that.

They would rather point out on focus strictly on the moments such as where almost all of humanity went extinct and that's it.

The truth of the matter is that the only thing people cared about at the very end of SDF (and I would say all of the other shows as well) was who Hikaru was going to fuck, fate of humanity be damned.
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>>135590773
>OP's pic

Shut up, Hikaru.

>>135590758
If that's what you want to believe.
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>>135587140
>>light-hearted
>>Magical girl-esque transformations

In Macross? Fucking eww
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GIRI GIRI AI
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>>135590929
>Magical girl-esque transformations
Shit gave me DtB2 flashbacks
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>expect more Seikan Hikou idol shit
>don't even get that

music was underwhelming as fuck, I thought lead girl VA was very expressive though, I liked her
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>>135587140
>More light hearted
>Idols are directly under fire, from peoples of their own race at that

What the hell.
I think you guys are getting seriously misguided by the pretty colors.
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>>135590947
>Best girl
>best voice

Mah niggah.
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>>135590646
pic related

This shit feels too mahou shoujo though
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>>135590728
>gets a hair erection
>heart becomes engorged with light
>starts ejaculating glitter
I think it's pretty obvious, anon.
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The fight scenes were alright but everything else was fucking awful. That fucking main girl is ALWAYS yelling. I'm so sick of that shit.

Otaku are fags and have ruined anime with this moe shit.
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so this anime is about cute girls doing cute things while singing and mecha battle? Want!
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>>135586952
As a fan of Love Live would I like it?

I also like mecha.
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>>135591056
Fucking bravo Kawamori
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>>135586997
>>135588666
This 2bh.
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At the theatrical screening, Kawamori said episode 2 would have a huge change in tone.

But I guess we can spend the next 3 months listening to Plusfag tears anyways.
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>>135591063
>samefagging
>muh otaku fallacy
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>>135591141
You even see it grow and lengthen steadily.
Fucking lewdest anime of 2015. And yes, it was 2015 when it aired.
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>>135591154
kawamori doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. "huge change in tone" might just mean they drop the sailor moon transformation sequence
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>>135586952
>As a fan of Plus
It doesn't take much to beat that piece of shit.
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>>135591203
>did several anime just to test ideas for Macross
>doesn't know what he's doing
Sure anon, sure.
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>>135591203
>kawamori doesn't know what the fuck he's doing
Considering how popular Frontier was, and how popular AKB0048 was, and how popular Delta will likely be, I'd say he knows EXACTLY what he's doing.

Lemme give you a protip, son: Plus and Zero didn't sell all the well. The best selling Macross stuff has always been batshit insane music magic with idols and planes and shit.
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>>135591095
It depends what you want to see.
Storywise SDF Macross is best of entrei franchise and Frontier has catchy songs.
Zero is for mecha/aircraft porn.
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>As a fan of Plus I'm disappoint.
Can we have actual Macross fans be the ones starting threads? Keep your disappointment for your blog and let us circle jerk to the new 7.
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>>135591219
>Plus is a piece a shit

Why does everyone criticize Plus now?

I thought it was just me.
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>almost 8 years since F
>during the adolescence of CG
>manage to make a worse looking show despite the fact

christ, Frontier was the 100million dollar summer blockbuster of anime, it just oozed quality, from the 10/10 soundtrack to the epic and cinematic fight scenes, to the well paced story(first half anyways)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1obTdLvPgQ
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>>135591317
It sure has flaws
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>>135590929
>>>light-hearted
>in Macross
The whole thing's light-hearted, what are you talking about?
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>>135591286
>Considering how popular Frontier was, and how popular AKB0048 was, and how popular Delta will likely be, I'd say he knows EXACTLY what he's doing.

Not that anon but I'm convinced now.
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>>135586952
macross was always idol shit, people just miss 80s pop and cels
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>>135586952
>As a fan of the most different Macross, I am disappointed in a typical example of a Macross series
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>>135591154
He also said all episodes up to 5 would be vastly different. My guess is that episode 2 is going to be battle-heavy and someone is going to day, probably that Herman guy from the fuccbois squad.
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>>135591342
The first episode isn't finished yet.
And the F movies look better than this.
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>>135591317
It's not bad as Zero, but it doesn't have much strong points either.
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>>135591435
Excellent. 10/10

>>135591440
>fuccbois squad

I almost spit out my fucking drink.
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>>135591463
>Zero
>Bad
Not THAT is the argument I don't fucking get. It literally had the best dogfights and the best visual in any Macross
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>>135591317
Myung was a slut bitch
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>>135591511
Read thread
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>>135591511
It's not kawaii uguu moe girls
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>>135591531
Indeed she was, but when Macross Plus first came out everyone praised it for

>the animation
>the artwork
>Yoko Kanno
>Dog fights

I guess after the hype died down, people saw it for what it really was.
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>>135591562
>delicious brown girl
>not moe
WHAT?
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>>135591440
Yeah. I wonder if each central character will bring their own distinct tone.
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>>135591562
I was just about to say this.
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Kawamori should've done another SUPER SERIOUS OVA in between Frontier and Delta, like he did with Plus between SDF and 7, or Zero between 7 and Frontier.

That way the "MACROSS IS NOT ABOUT MUSIC AND IDOLS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" faggots would've been satisfied, and we could have our dancing valkyries in peace.
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>>135591562
Mao is pretty moe to me
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>>135591511
What do you remember Zero's storyline?

All you remember is mech porn and that first episode dogfight what was reused in Sayonara no Tsubasa
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So who's watched AKB0048?

>>135591317
I think most people have always thought Plus to be "okay". Not worth arguing about. The problem is people who think Plus is the only entry in the franchise that mattered
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>>135591631
>REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>135591631
>Original OVAs
>In the late 00s-10s
Hahahahahaha
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>>135591750
>People who think Plus is the only entry in the franchise that mattered

There are people on this planet that actually think this.

Plus-fags can gtfo now.
Wow.
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>>135591711
It was re-used?
I don't think Zero's plot was so bad, and since the action and quality are so good I don't think it matter all that much if you didn't like it.
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>>135591631
Zero is closer to work example from Satelight what they can do.
Frontier looked good enough comparing with their later animated shows.
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>>135591795
>Gundam Unicorn
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I remember how excited plusfags were when the first key visual came out in September showing the VF31 and the Draken because this seemed like the second coming of Plus.

And then one month later they revealed the second key visuals with the idols and the long-haired pretty boys. Glorious.
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>>135591366
To a point, sure. Frontier definitely had a lot of light-heated moments, but this magical girl shit? It's Macross, not fucking Symphogear.
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wew what a pile of shit
Some music makes people insane and the only thing that can stop it is some mahou shoujo moe moe uguu uguu pop idol group. What a fucking interesting conflict.

And the CGI is horrendous.
At least Gundam Thunderbolt is good. They can somehow manage to create something good. Kawamori is just high on crack.
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>>135592031
Frontier also had transforming outfits and skirt boosters
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>>135592031
Macross always had the tech to pull off the magical girl shchtik. Those girls are probably trained like hell.
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>>135592031
Frontier also had a dying female lead

Probably still in a statis pod or some shit being a vegetable


Ranka a shit
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>>135592116
These sluts are shooting out energy shields with their face plastered on it
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>>135591862
Watch that movie right after Zero and you will notice how much stuff they reused.
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>>135592201
Fucking lewd pachinko machines
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>>135591052
>This shit feels too mahou shoujo
And Zentradi being pacified by song and dance isn't? This is still the exact same shit

>>135591631
>implying he'll ever listen to baka gaijins
Macross will never ever be marketed abroad so he doesn't need to give a fuck about making Macross serious.

Let's be honest for a second here: Macross is fundamentally stupid, and there's nothing worse than something stupid taking itself seriously. When something stupid doesn't take itself seriously and throws out great song and dance? It's a lot of fun.

>>135592031
>Frontier definitely had a lot of light-heated moments, but this magical girl shit?
Sheryl magically transformed during her stage shows; Ranka had her stupid magical girl mascot. This isn't a quantum leap.
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>>135592153
Which is more badass than anything Minmay or Sheryl or shit Ranka ever did.
Why aren't you even happy that they're part of the conflict now instead of being pure idol pandering?
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>>135592031
Remember when the first Macross teleported itself to Pluto and everyone there was trapped in space while being pursued by an overwhelming alien fleet and everyone in the Macross decided that the next best course of action was to put on an idol contest? Yeah.

Kyun kyun~
Kyun kyun~
Watashi no kara wa
Pairooootooooo~
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>>135592117
>no more galactic fairy
;_;
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>>135591795
>>135591865
>>135592280
A Macross 30 OVA might've satisfied the seriousfags.
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>>135592281
I'm just sad it's majority loli now
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>>135592368
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What's with all the fags that treat Macross so seriously anyway? I love it because it pulls off all the dumb shit with a completely straight face.

It's endearing.
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It's been one episode. Heck, it's not even the official first episode. While it's looking a lot like magic and AKB0048, give it a few more episodes. They had the dogfight and music on point and a love triangle is sure to surface in due time. If it ends up being an entertaining ride by the end, it's all good. It wouldn't hurt to be more alike previous Macross series but it hasn't strayed exceptionally far like people are claiming. Let it happen.
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>>135592584
>>135592584
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>>135592584
Have you ever seen SDF Macross?
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>>135592368
Picked up.
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>>135592808
not him but, he has a point, Macross has always had some tongue in cheek stuff thrown in just that in Delta it's more obvious
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>>135592808
Yes and it has dumb stuff too.
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I miss the days when Macross was serious.
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>>135592368
What?
They all have tits except for Reina.
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>>135593014
Dropped.
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>>135592080
Thunderbolt is garbage, tho.
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>>135592906
Frontier was and Delta seems to be boring end of Macross rides.
It always has been goofy and it should've keep going that way.
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>>135590646
>it's just that people conveniently ignore that

That is because the creator wants you to ignore it: >>>/m/13697420
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>>135593055


ZEON DID NOTHING WRONG
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deadite
Senior Member

Join Date: Apr 2010
This is the same franchise that gave you Valkyries dressed up as Zentradi and helping a Zentradi light a cigar with its gunpod. Also the same franchise which had Zentradi spies hilariously cross dressing.
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>>135592031
>It's Macross, not fucking Symphogear.
One of them better get turned on when singing during battles.
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>>135593223
Well we have already seen hair erections so it isn't a stretch.
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>>135593223
That would be the main character.
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I missed gg.
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I wonder if the love triangle will be between MC, New idol and green haired idol, or MC, New idol and Soldier Lady.
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>>135593426
Full harem would be better.
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>>135591317
I don't hate Plus, but iMacross has aways been silly and ridiculous and that's its charm, Plus is 2serious4me.
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Plus was the best macross

prove me wrong
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ITT: Fags that have never watched the original complain about how Delta it's nothing like the original
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>>135593481
Not happening as it is Macross. Though they are changing it up slightly this time round.
>Kawamori pointed out that the delta symbol in the logo is made of triangular symbols, to symbolize the three main thematic elements of Macross: music, a love triangle, and transforming fighter planes. However, he noted that the two symbols are split, and explained that this is indicative that the three elements will not come together as expected in the new story.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-09-27/macross-creator-kawamori-offers-details-on-macross-delta-anime-thunderbirds/.93436
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>>135590947
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>>135593426
It will be Hayate, Freyja and Mirage going by the cast listing during the ED.
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>>135592280
>And Zentradi being pacified by song and dance isn't? This is still the exact same shit

I actually argued in the last thread that singing in Macross serving as communication between 2 different species is not magical at all, considering music can communicate feelings even if they don't understand the lyrics. It makes sense for the pacifist message of Macross.

Now stuff like the Var syndrome and whatever the fuck Main girl species is, that's magic.

Spiritia and Song Energy never came back because they didn't make any fucking sense. If they're going to have music doing magic shit I hope they explain it well.

>Sheryl magically transformed during her stage shows; Ranka had her stupid magical girl mascot. This isn't a quantum leap.
Sheryl used Holograms in her concert just like the new girls, that's not magic, so no complaints there. Ranka had a Vajra as a mascot, iirc, and Vajra are not likely to appear in this series unless it's some sequel to Frontier.
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>>135593569
Almost every Macross has love triangle. That's why harem would be good change.
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>>135593619
Going back to the roots then.

It's obvious MC is going to join the Macross dancing team too, so I wonder if they're going to have one of the active pilots die or they're just going to have an extra pilot.
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>Macross will never again be ROCKING like Macross 7 was
why even live?
;_;
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>>135593718
Extra pilot promo poster has 5 VFs. His is the blue
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>>135593718
They will need an extra pilot when Freyja joins Walkure.
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>>135593718
They were already recruiting so I can see them having room for an extra pilot to go along with a new singer as well.
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She has no change, does she?
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>>135593533
ITT: Idolfags hijack thread and trying extrapolate their broken views of reality on oldfags

Macross was mech show with idols. Not AKB show with mechs.
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>>135593798
Wasn't grim reaper blue?

>>135593796
Rock went well with Basara, I can't see idols doing it well, and idols are better suited for modern series because viewers can relate better to the show that way.
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>>135593873
What do you mean?
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>>135593596
>Ami Koshimizu
>those characters
Well shit no wonder why
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>>135593890
/m/anchild please go and stay go.
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>>135593796
>Marcoss will never have a series about space pirates trying to get big off their mixtapes and flying stolen valkries
>you will never get to see space Kanye ntr an idol from a military pilot
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>>135586952
>There are retards that actually think idols are out in place in MACROSS out of all places

hahahahahahahaha. Delta had the best premier episode in a long, long while.
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>>135593890
Macross was a love triangle set on a war stage.

Literally from Kawamori's mouth.
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>>135593796
And you will never hear this song played live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmuMP_F_IMk
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>>135592609
>>135593362
>>135593873
She should've been full blonde.
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>>135593990
I hated 7's first half but that soundtrack was just GOAT
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>>135594052
Nah, she's cute m8
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Should I watch 7 after all? I heard it has no missile circus so I was never interested.
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>A civilization saved multiple times by idol singers
>Not venerate idols
People in Macross most likely treat idols akin to enlisting in the army to defend their freedom
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>>135593942
Symphogear shitter pls go away
>>135593962
Idols and love triangle don't makes old macross idolshit like Delta.
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>>135594158
Only if you're man enough.
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>>135594158
It's probably Kawamori's most politically charged series.

And by that I mean Basara goes full hippie most of the series, and the OVAs.

Still has some great songs and fun characters though.
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>the wings fold in
Neat.

>that timing on GIRI GIRI AI
Oh fuck, too good.

I, for one, thoroughly enjoyed the first episode of AKB Symphocross. Had a huge stupid grin on my face the entire way through.
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>>135593962
The old Macross had others to clean up Kawamori's ideas.
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>>135594248
I don't like the chubby VF.
Reminds me too much of a speedboat from Hydro Thunder.
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>>135594177
>Idols and love triangle don't makes old macross idolshit like Delta.
Point is, it was never "mech show with idols"
And this is the fucking preview episode, fuck off, Frontier and 7 also had plenty of episodes with the focus on the slice of life or the music.
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Mikumo dies, splintering the batoru aidoru group and Freyja has to aid in uniting the warring factions on her own.

This is what the fractured triangle represents.

Screencap this post.
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>>135594301
>Mikumo dies
NO
O
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>>135593891
Grim reaper is black and Hayate is being pretty heavily associated with the color blue.
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>>135594158
First half is dialogue heavy and sometimes it feels like there is fillers without purpose.
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>>135594248
Hhhnngg dem wings
My dick
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>>135594387
YES
E
S
THE PROTOCULTURE DEMANDS IT!
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Will Macross ever have a hot kickass chick again?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQNLbAmZUYg
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>>135591317

Contrarian /a/ bullshit is my assumption.
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>Soooo... this a Love Live! meets Macross? *sigh* Passing on...
>This Macross series is falling under the same AKB48 marketing model garbage that Japan otaku pervs have been buying into for years. It's really a pathetic state that Macross is in if they need to lean on that to sell a series.
>Wow, this is some hot garbage. Talk about taking an aesthetic too far. From the terrible CG to the hardcore pandering, it's like they've dropped all pretenses of this being a Macross show and have gone full "idol superheroes" like other shows. Stop hurting yourself, Macross franchise. We're worried about you. Come home.
>Macross went off the deep end after Macross II more than 20 years ago. Kawamori is a hack. He might be a genius mecha designer (praise where it's due), but he's the George Lucas of anime when it comes to storytelling. Macross simply has no future in his hands as a science fiction epic. And this new Delta does nothing but confirm it. At this point in time Macross is used to sell airplanes, loli figures and music cd's. The story went out the window ages ago.
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>VF-31
So is the YF-30 a completely new airframe or is it another variation on the YF-24?

Oh fuck, I can't stop listening to GIRI GIRI AI halp.
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>>135591398

If you actually go back and watch SDF Macross and even Plus it's far from just about idols and music exclusively. It's gotten more and more about that stuff over time though starting with Seven and the modernization of the franchise with Frontier which Delta looks about ready to fully complete
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>>135594223
>and the OVAs.
WOW WOW WOW
WOW WOW WOW
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>>135594662
Did you already nab the full version?

I told you it was good.
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>>135591581

That was back when Yoko Kanno was actually kind of remarkable. I haven't really been impressed with any soundtrack she's done since Rahxephon though really. It's not bad since then, just nothing really memorable.
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>>135594655
>*sigh*
Everytime

>>135594662
What model did Alto use at the end of the Frontier movies again?
>Oh fuck, I can't stop listening to GIRI GIRI AI halp.
I'm afraid I cCan't help, I have the same problem. Literally non stop today
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>>135592080

Yeah I find it hilarious that Satelights CGI actually seems to have regressed since Frontier. Then again a lot of things relating to anime have regressed since then.
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>>135594662
It's its own frame. The wings don't move and it has a pretty unique missile pod.

Macross 30 was pretty fun, if repetitive..
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>>135593055

okay. I can just say shit too. You're garbage.
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>>135594849
Would you recommend M30? How is it compared to the Frontier PSP games? I loved those
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>>135594842
They should have hired Studio Orange.
Also the idols don't mesh well when they are top of the mecha.
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>>135593890

Like I said music was always an aspect of Macross but it became more and more overwhelmingly about that from 7 on.
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>>135594730
My Nyaa-fu is too weak. In the meantime, I'm just repeating those two minutes of the episode over and over again. Got a link for it?

>>135594793
I thought it was the YF-29 Durandal?
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>>135594793
VF-19
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>>135594842
It's not finished and it looks good already.
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>>135594261

Kawamori is a fucking weird idiot like most of anime's key people nowadays. I don't care how much his stuff sells or doesn't which frankly since Macross Frontier it has not and I don't know if that was the 2008 factor and Bandai's marketing machine at the time or not.
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>>135594938
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7ej0h14jj3vlnwe/AACccv79qdacYV-3jJzp1pVca?dl=0

A kind anon uploaded it in a previous thread.

GIRI GIRI AI
IKENAI BORDERLINE
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>>135594655

But like in all honesty are you really surprised. With where the anime scene is in general right now I sure as hell can't be nor mad either. It is what it is and a sign of the times really. Straight mecha doesn't really sell anymore, it makes total fucking sense for Bandai Visual to play it further in the direction of pretty much their and animes most explosively successful franchise of the decade and where the trends are blowing. Music anime FUCKING sells and Bandai has all the right packaging styles to make Delta sell if they play their cards right which I'm sure they will. If they make it a straight mecha type series outside of an OVA format it's going to bomb, can't blame em'.
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>>135594938
>YF-29 Durandal
That's it, thanks
>>135594954
That's Isamu's craft. They looks pretty close though, that's also why I was confused and forgot the name of Alto's unit
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>>135592107
>Frontier also had transforming outfits
pretty damned sure those were LASER LIGHT SHOW EFFECTS and not clothing literally transforming into idol/battle gear

>and skirt boosters
and? booster packs are a lot more 'believable' than girls floating in the air
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>>135595090
I think those are MAL reposts.
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>>135594842
They said the episode was still unfinished
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>>135595186
Those are holographic stage suit disguising their actual combat gear.
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>>135595026
I'm conflicted. I haven't watched it yet so maybe it works better together with the episode.
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>>135595142
Funny that Bandai also sell VF-19 kits as Sayonara no Tsubasa variables. Movie has VF-27 and VF-29 versions.
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>>135595186
Doesn't it take place after Frontier? Technology son. I'm sure it'll be explained.
And they weren't floating.
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>>135594954
Basara pls

>>135595026
Thanks, bro.

>>135595247
I heard it without watching the episode and thought "meh" but now that I've watched it, it's a 10000/10 song.
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>>135595247
Listen to it in the episode for the first time. They did a good job with the music coordinating with the scene.
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>>135594793
Now that's an armpit.
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>>135595186
>and? booster packs are a lot more 'believable' than girls floating in the air
Im guessing he meant that this one has skirt boosters aswell.
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>>135594909
It's not bad. Beyond the main story progression structure you're given 3 large expanses of land to explore and lots of optional content.

It's repetitive, but if you like Macross and enjoyed the PSP games you'll probably still enjoy it.

Missile trails are fucking gorgeous in motion and GERWALK is still OP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg_znyNriqg

If you plan on importing it you'll find this helpful:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6r3Sy1LnkpxSGJxOUR4VFVac0k/edit
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>>135595280
And the inevitable dogfight in the finished episode will make it a 99999999999/10 song.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RevRXCfMzBk
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>>135595345
Thanks a lot man, I didn't know there was a translation, I'll definitely pick it up
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>>135595407
so is "Giri Giri Ai"
gonna be the OP or ED?
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>>135593641
>whatever the fuck Main girl species is, that's magic.
I thought she was a new alien species. How is she magic?
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What is that bouncy, brass band-style of GIRI GIRI AI called, anyways? It makes me think of Sublime, so what, ska jpop?
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>>135592315
All hail our queen!!
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>>135595345
>If you plan on importing it you'll find this helpful:
>https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6r3Sy1LnkpxSGJxOUR4VFVac0k/edit
OH god, this is exactly what I need. Imported it 2 years ago along with E.X. Troopers. Played it for a bit along with EX until I got completely hooked on EX. Played some other games after finishing it and when I finally came back to play M30 I had no idea what the hell I was doing because I can't read moon. Managed to play it by listening to the voices and pressing the shown buttons during the tutorial. Finally I can actually play the game.
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>>135595407
Walküre-Tang Clan ain't nuthing ta fuck wit.

>>135595661
Ska is my best bet.
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>>135595236

Points still stand regardless
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>>135595345
>https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6r3Sy1LnkpxSGJxOUR4VFVac0k/edit
Holy shit I've been missing out
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>>135595731
I can sort of do that sign.
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So what happend to her when she was younger? Looks like a fleet crashed and burned or something here.
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>>135595718
>along with E.X. Troopers.
My niggah. I'm still pretty mad the game bombed in Japan. What the hell.

Incidentally, Ex Trooper's chara designer is in charge of Delta
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>>135595661
Only thing that reminds ska is brass. It's just dance-jpop.
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>>135595407
The song is kinda meh.
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>>135595407
I cant wait for all the songs, Seikan Hikou and What about my star (Ranka's version) were fucking great aswell as others.

>>135595718
The game is great when you know what you are doing
Shame its not in english, won't be able to know about all the character interactions and how the story goes, gameplay is great and much more fun when you beat the game and can play as all the characters and use any vehicle including Zentradi mechs and Basara's VF.
The game is pretty easy unfortunately and you can save up missiles and spam special versions of them along with special attacks.
My major flaw with this game is the fucking music only plays when you use someone as an assist and it loops maybe once before stopping and the rest of the game is void of music.
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>>135595836
>I'm still pretty mad the game bombed in Japan. What the hell.
It's so damn good. Visuals and music is top notch and I love how arcade'y the gameplay it feels.
>Incidentally, Ex Trooper's chara designer is in charge of Delta
Sweet.
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>>135595718
I played (and cleared) the game when this this was still in its early days, trying to figure out what some of the optional missions wanted me to was borderline infuriating. Still, I managed to do everything.

Maybe I should boot it up and try out NG+

>>135595836
>Incidentally, Ex Trooper's chara designer is in charge of Delta
Now that you mention it I can see the striking resemblance. I didn't play EX Troopers but I always found the art and character designs to be really striking.
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>>135595267
there's only an 8 year gap between frontier and delta. but nice copout
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This is bringing back memories of when Frontier was airing and people thought it would be in a high school all series
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>>135595872
I hate delta idolshit from all my heart but don't even dare to say shit about GIRI GIRI AI or I will find you and abduct your fuckin cat. Don't try to cross borderline, фагит
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Honestly, the premise of this show pretty much guarantees idol-offs with dogfights. It's like combining the sing-off of the hospital scene in Frontier with the whole DOUBLE DAEDALUS ATTACK scene. Shit's gonna be so fucking cash.

>>135595785
It's really hard to get that degree of separation between the ring and middle fingers.
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>>135596117
Then they're using the same suit as Sheryl.
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>>135596117
They're also way, way further out in the Galaxy. Who knows what they found.
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>>135596084
Reminds way too much of EVOL
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>>135596160
>It's really hard to get that degree of separation between the ring and middle fingers.
That's why I said "sort of".

I seem to be able to do it a little bit better than you. Just a little.
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>>135596084
muh dick
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>>135596134

Yeah and somehow in the succeeding 7-8 years since anime has still barely managed to get itself back out of the high school setting on average. It's not as bad as it was during that period though....at least that I can recall.
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>>135595407
Are you ready to see fat otakus trying to make this symbol in the eventual live concerts?
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>>135595334

that episode had a lot of delicious armpits.
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Also, as Delta is only set 58 years after the events of SDF, there is a good chance that Max and Milia are still alive and kicking ass somewhere on the M7 fleet. Max would only be 74 years young.

Hikaru and the Megaroad-01 crew are probably still alive, too. I BELIEVE.
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>start playing EX Troopers after importing it
>suddenly surprise Miyuki Sawashiro
I was happy that day.
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>>135596377
I just did it.

What's so hard about it?
Do you faggots even do finger curls?
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Just watched the episode. I loved that, and i hated that..... anyone else massively conflicted?
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>>135596543
No, I just liked it
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>>135596525
>finger curls
what
I can bend my fingers 90 degree backwards without any kind of pain though
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>>135596543
Why anyone would let the parts they dislike get in the way of the parts they love is beyond me.
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>>135596492
I still need to finish it. Is there a guide somewhere? I never really understood what's all the shit you get from Akrids, what food does, etc
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Red is my favorite. Just sayin'
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>>135596543
I just hate that I have to wait until April for more.
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>>135593890
Or maybe the "oldfags" just had a misguided view of the series.
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>>135596638
The stuff you get from Akrids is used for upgrading your weapons and armor. I think, but not sure, that there's also a or two sidequest you use them in. And the food is for basic stuff like more defence/offence and stuff. I think.
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>>135594407
I was going to say the plane colors are associated with their respective idols, not the pilots.. but now I'm no so sure.
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>>135594177
The idols and love triangles were held to a much higher importance that anything else in Macross. The conflict against the Zentradi was really just a backdrop.
>>
DECULTURE
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>>135596695
Her wink here is the most precious thing in the universe.
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>>135591711
>What do you remember Zero's storyline?
stupid humans fighting over immovable object & alien artifacts relating to the creation of man? yes, i believe i do. pretty sure it implied aliens populated the stars with humanoids using mechanized robots that look like vajira queen. and that it took the greater part of a decade to show us a small glimpse of who those alien artifacts were based off.
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>>135594668
The only thing more important than idol shit in Macross is the love triangle, in fact from Kawamori's own words it's a love triangle set against the backdrop of war. Idolshit has been in the middle.
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Going to rewatch the whole franchise in chronological order.
Starting with the best
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The main character isn't going to be obsessed something retarded like muh sky again right?
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>>135596846
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>>135595186
Nope you can see it in the movies and in the TV series.

As for the skirts again refer to Sheryl and the boosters she had in her skirt.
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>>135597013
>mfw still like this shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbULPk2A5fI
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>>135597066
The sky was the best waifu you giant faggot
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Var Syndrome is horrifying when you think about it.What will happen if an entire planet gets infected with it?
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>>135596805
>this is what oldidolfags believe
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>>135597066
Hayate's problem seems to be that he can't figure out what to do with his life and he has essentially given up at this point,
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>>135597249
Kawamori's own words anon. Also SDF had more episodes dedicated to their love triangle and idol shit than it did with the Human-Zentradi conflict.
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Looks like her hopes left no room for dreams. Her going Ryusei Date over those mechs put her ahead for me.
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maybe those autists at bbt can finally approve more macross bluray releases
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>>135597066
I'm curious where they're going to go with his character. Alto was pretty well established by the end of the first episode. Hayate, we barely know anything about him. He's a talented slacker with no real goals or direction in life. He's almost definitely going to end up joining Delta squadron as Freyja's partner.

And if that ends up being his calling, what do you do with him then?
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>>135593873

She look perfect for me,, waaaaay better than crap ranka.
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>>135597455
I don't know, he seemed to be pretty in to those songs, maybe he becomes a crossdressing walkure member
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>>135597455
He'll obviously become super-competent because that was his true calling, while learning to care about others more
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>mfw space Islam illness
Maybe idols are the answer to ISIS
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>>135597455
>what do you do with him then?
Well it seems it will be all about dancing with the mech. Was also said that there was the colour of the wind while he was robot dancing in the dock yard.
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>>135597066
If you watch the episode, you would know that Hayate's problem is that he isn't obsess with anything, at all. Not even slightly passionate about something, that's why he is constantly demotivated and slacking. I'm sure this will change soon via magical singing, love and some innate piloting talent though.
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>>135593123
>>135593123
>killing half of the entire human population over "muh oppression"
>setting up fascistic regime that actually takes pride in oppressing its own citizens
ZEON A SHIT
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Is he wearing a fold crystal like Sheryl?
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>>135597455
I'm curious what is up with his pendant since he was clutching it the entire time when shit started going down.
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>>135597535
I think those mecha dance skills are going to score big points on his Walkure Dancing Valkyrie Troupe resume.
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>>135597535
>one episode where all the idol girls pilot the mech and the male pilots get mahou shoujo transformation into singing idols
Just one, I only need one
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>>135593890

That's what always gets me when it comes to mecha, the people that clearly have no fucking idea what they are talking about beaking off to people that do about well...shit they have no idea what they are talking about. It's extra great when it's about stuff like Gundam or Macross and they just post the stupidest fucking shit with their absolute fucking /a/ shitposting confidence letting everyone know they can summarily ignore them from that point on.
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>>135596972

Unfortunately yes. It's too bad romantic love triangles and angst bore the shit out of me and I've progressively lost interest in the franchise over time, especially as the average cast has gotten younger and younger so that it's teen romantic angst now for the most part.
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>>135597915
I have to wonder just how broken Hayate is going to be piloting wise because he seems to be the blue pilot of Delta as well.
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>>135594503
short hair.... Kill yourself..
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>>135594793
>I'm afraid I cCan't help, I have the same problem. Literally non stop today

im not the only one....I download the fuking MP3...
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>>135598048
>as the average cast has gotten younger and younger
But that's wrong
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>>135597915
>>135598074
He already noticed one of them was late during the mech synchronised flying sequence. So he shows he is pretty attentive to things.
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We should have a small scene of them watching a video of Alto-senpai's sick moves in his VF-25.
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>>135598048
Not they're about the same age. Ranka is the same age as Minmei she's just really immature so she seems younger. The only truly young ones were Mylene and Mao.
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I want more now, not in Spring.
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I'm fine with Delta's CG but I wish they go back to add more details
Zero still look better in 20fucking16
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>>135598701
They have something like 4 more months to polish it. This was just a preview and will probably have more detail added when it airs properly.
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>>135598701
You're not really proving your point since that screenshot looks a hell of a lot worse than anything from Delta.
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>>135597906
He is Sheryl's illegitimate child.
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>>135598760
Hopefully, but it's obvious they want the CG and 2D animation to blend well.
Which also mean the 2D actually hold the CG quality back.

In Zero they pushed the 2D animation and background quality to match the realistic CG. That couldn't have been easy.
Delta/Frontier and basically every modern anime all do the opposite and tone down the CG quality so it match the poor 2D animation.

I wish someone was crazy enough to do it Zero's way again.

>>135598906
Please
Delta isn't even trying to show any slow close up on the mech because it's even less detailed
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>>135599095
>Comparing OVAs to TV series
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Someone stop me from listening to Ikenai Borderline. I must have listened to it over 100 times now.
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>>135599159
I know, and yet Frontier's movies (MOVIES) aren't much better than the TV serie, let alone this
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>>135599216
It's been stuck in my head all day, even after listening to Fire Bomber which always cures my song fixations.
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>this W
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>>135599268
Why are her tits so big
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>>135599268
green a cute
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>>135599295
Consolation for green being a boy
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>>135599268
Can these bitches stop bullets without their magitech bullshit?

They have much to learn.
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>>135595818
N.U.N.S./Human-Zentradi alliance on a friendly cultural exchange visit to Winderemere?
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>>135597455
His true calling will end up being giving sexual gratification to aidorus.
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>>135599546
He'll be in for a rough time getting pegged by green
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>>135599546
But they need no man, just singing makes them literally cum rainbows
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i just wanted less idol bullshit. a character being an idol when they aren't a pilot was about as much as i could take

he could have made the robots into sentient singing machines and i wouldnt have given a fuck. but no they gotta go in for the idol crowd.

oh, well.
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>>135593873
>>135597502
She is cute as fuck!
I usually don't even like her type of characters, but she won me over completely.

Also, she reminds me of 2hu.
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>>135591930
Light novel.
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>>135596832
I laughed my ass off when he said that. God, this series is going to be a spectacular trainwreck.
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Don't mind the idols but if they could produce Valkyrie mounted barriers that could block missile barrages why didn't they give any to the poor grunts and ships in orbit?
Those poor Destroid pilots could sure use those tech.
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>>135599767
She really is. I usually like her type of character anyway, but she was much better than most.
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>>135599767
Her accent is super cute.
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>>135599340
Isn't this the Kirakira making a forcefield for her?
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>>135599711
>but no they gotta go in for the idol crowd.
The idol crowd is literally a third of Macross' audience
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>>135597256

Wait a sec... where is this from?
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>>135586952
I just rewatched Plus the other day after having not seen it in its entirety in a decade, it really is a Macross for people who'd probably not like Macross.
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>>135599896
I'm gonna guess it's experimental tech so it's expensive as fuck for mass production or at least reserved for elite units.
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>>135599896
How would they control them? This isn't Newtypes where they control that shit with their minds. The idols use their nails(?) or something to move them around.
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>>135599896
Why is the CG look so horrible?
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>>135600781
Pachinko music clips.
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=385129
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>>135599767
>>135599767
Yea the same with me... I pref girl like mikumo
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> all those allusions to Ranka
She's gonna lose hard, isn't she?
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>>135601827
She won my heart
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>>135601286
Episode is not finished
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>>135601827
This reminds me of the pizza episode of R2.
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>>135598404

Mylene was like fucking 14 and they do everything humanly possible to sexualize her. I've been rewatching the show and it's really noticeable. I had forgotten about the ridiculously oversized bodyguard in glasses that chases her around all the time.
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>>135601827
depends. mirage looks like female gamlin so if she's the other girl in the running freyja just might win.
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>>135601827
Her hair isn't green.
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>>135602106
14 years old is the perfect age to be sexualized, though.
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>>135602199
So how bad is she gonna suffer?

Or are they going to use the excuse that Mikumo's hair when disguised is green to make her suffer?
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>>135602106
He's so freakishly large
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>>135602106
>80s anime
>Not sexualizing the fuck out of 14 year olds
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>>135594662
The YF-30 and VF-31 are a new design. Arms fold on the outside of the legs, not inside. The way the entire lower body folds up is completely different. Cockpit stays level throughout transformation.
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>>135591317
Good visual, aesthetic and animation, but It's boring as fuck with a shitty story, same for the characters..
It's only praised because Watanabe is behind it.
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>>135602410
Beats me. But I just noticed something about >>135601827
Her hair isn't green. But her eyes are.
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>>135591342
Frontier was meh
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>>135601353

Nice!
I actually downloaded those but forgot to watch.
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>>135602949
It still had excellent production values.
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>>135596160
I can't do it at all without breaking my fingers in half. Damn.
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>>135602885
three old friends fighting over love along with a crazy ai, that shit was pure macross and it was awesome.

i don't know how you fags like one series but not another each one is awesome with a different mix of the three pillars that make macross.
>>
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>>135600945
2 seaters, the guy at the front pilots while the other one sing and dance to karaoke.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlBTIZrKy94
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>>135603589
not flying the Shinden 2.......
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>>135603589
>no AC ps4
WHY
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>>135603347
It doesn't help that Myung and Guld were super-unlikable. That entire relationship drama made me wish I was watching Kaifun, instead.

Honestly, Macross never really does love interest vs love interest clashes well.
>SDF: Misa and Minmei were mostly okay with each other
>M7: There was more relationship drama with Basara and that mountain than anything else.
>Zero: >implying anyone remembers anything about Sara and Mao
>Frontier: Sheryl and Ranka were literal besties.
If I wanted to watch two assholes fight over a stupid bitch in a really nasty manner, I'd go watch Maury.
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>>135603717
>Myung and Guld were super-unlikable
i never got that, myung obviously cared for both but wanted to be a big girl and tried to put them both behind behind her. both she and issamu loved guld enough to hide the the truth from him.

and poor guld couldn't admit to himself the horrible things he did, how could you not feel for the poor guy?

maybe i have a blind spot but i love plus, and not for the mecha, which is awesome, but for a very simple story between high school lovers thrown together again.

and a killer ai and music doesn't hurt either

flawed and tragic sure, but unlikable, i just don't see it
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>>135597455
Freyja is the piloto and he is the aidoru
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>>135601827
This one feels like she's going to win, since she's the one that can push MC's development most.

Misa won because she taught Hikaru to act like a fucking adult.
Myung ruined the fuck out of Isamu, but I guess he learned to be responsible or some shit.
Sara taught Shin to be tolerant.
Sheryl made Alto face his past and embrace his identity.
The mountain taught Basara to believe in the power of music.

I can't see what femGamlin is going to teach Hayate, so orange Ranka should win.
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>>135598070
So... He know the Force
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>>135604113
>Myung ruined the fuck out of Isamu, but I guess he learned to be responsible or some shit.
you are looking at it wrong, guld won because he could admit his past and commit one last heroic sacrifice
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>>135595026
Four hours late but thank you.

I hope my neighbours like this song.
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>>135594981
Since well before that, I'd say. His big hits are basically Macross entries plus Escaflowne, which is a long time ago. I don't think his recent stuff has had a real decline in popularity if you compare it to Arjuna or Sousei no Aquarion.
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>>135604113
>>I can't see what femGamlin is going to teach Hayate
Helping him find his place in the world by getting in a VF most likely
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>>135594981
>>135604536
Aquarion Evol did sort of okay. It was like an in-the-middle kind of success.

He didn't really make any major shows besides that and AKB0048. Most of the time he's been doing mechanical designs
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>>135604113
>I can't see what femGamlin is going to teach Hayate, so orange Ranka should win.
What do you have against Mirage? We barely know anything about her yet you' give her a derogatory nickname like she has anything to do with him.
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>>135596160
*tries short stubby fingers*
Dammit!
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>>135592700

That part was utterly ridiculous. I lost it.
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>>135604684
But anon, I like Gamlin, it's not derogatory.

>>135604556
I thought he was just going with Ranka too, considering he dances on construction mechs so might as well doing it in VFs.
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>>135592808
You mean the macross which had Hikaru flying on space with a frozen tuna?
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>>135592808
Have you?
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>>135595345

>PSVR
>Oculus Rift
>HTC Vive/SteamVR

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. GIVE ME A MACROSS GAME ALREADY!
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>>135604989
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>>135596543

The episode does grow on you, though the valkyrie sequence in front of the crowd with choreographed moves definitely made me cringe.

Giri Giri Ai is top fucking tier however. I'm hype for Delta, but have some reservations. I loved Frontier, especially Alto/Sheryl's development into the romantic ending that we got.

Also, Sheryl a Ginga Bishoujo.


I'm holding my breath, because I'm not sure if Shinku no Diamond Crevasse, Universal Bunny, and Pink Monsoon can be topped.
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>>135604989
>>135605023
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>>135604113

Freyja comes across as Sheryl and Ranka mixed into one character. Has the innocence of Ranka in some parts, and the confidence and drive of Sheryl.

I know why they did it, and she's an endearing character already. But, Mikumo & Mirage a best.
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>>135605023
Maximum lewd.

Man, nosecone art just ain't what it used to be.
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>>135605487
How can you even like Mikumo when she has 2 lines in the episode.

Mirage and Freyja are the only characters we actually know, and Freyja is the best.
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>>135605275

Without a doubt, the BEST.
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>>135605539

Because, I ship dark horse pairings. Always have, always will, even if they don't win.

Alto/Sheryl also solidified my belief that there's hope after all that confident, adult-like characters (body/mind/soul) can in fact win in an anime industry dominated by shitty archetypes.

Ranka a shit, Sheryl a best; Frejya pretty good.
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>>135591004
i agree, they really outta ramp up the music because this shit is turning into nymphogear
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>>135605645
Movie Ranka was pretty good. Sheryl did have a problem in both versions which was lack of character development, but she was still better than Ranka in the TV series.

I'm liking Freyja's expressiveness and confidence a lot, I'll probably end up liking her more than Ranka or Sheryl.

Also, in Macross you always have mature women winning (except 7, but it hardly had any romance), so I don't know what you found so special about Frontier.
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Was purple voiced by Ami Koshimizu?
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>>135605890
Yep.
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I enjoyed the first episode, but it didn't do it for the the way the preview episode of Frontier did. I hope over the next 4 months, gg decides to come back just for this show.
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>best episode of the TV series
>best opening arc of the first movie

>>135605769

I found Frontier special, because eight years ago I had just hit 20-ish. Therefore Alto/Sheryl's story was much more personable.

I'm not saying that Freyja is a bad character, I do like her. But I always liked chicks closer to the protag's age/slightly older winning. It's a simple preference. Freyja invokes closer to Ranka than Sheryl with her design.

It's, like, my opinion man.

That said, I liked the dog fighting in Frontier quite a bit. It's up there with Zero, for me.
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>>135592315
She still exists in my heart and on my desk.
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>>135605956

Frontier opened up like no other. Also, 25th anniversary. It was special.

>>135606007

Oh you FUCKER. Mine's from Itsuwari no Utahime, but I wanted the original so badly. Couldn't get my hands on it.
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>>135605769
>Sheryl did have a problem in both versions which was lack of character development
She had tons, going from haughty bitch singer to Ranka's mentor to flirting with Alto to getting sick with space aids and giving up all hope to singing to give hope to the people, fucking Alto and moving in with him to spend her last days in as much happiness as possible. That's a pretty dramatic character arc, most anime characters get way less development than that.
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>>135593641
>Now stuff like the Var syndrome and whatever the fuck Main girl species is, that's magic.
The Var Syndrome triggers extreme Misophonia in Zentradi, the idols play other sounds to neutralize it.

Windermere people are a different alien race.
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>>135606107

Winderemere is another Macross fleet, not an alien race. The intro literally defines this. What it doesn't show/tell is the history of Winderemere people that led them to become like they are today.
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>>135605958

I do think Sheryl was the best choice for Alto, but that has to do with the character, I don't really give a fuck about a character being an adult or a child as long as the ending makes sense.

What I meant is that I don't understand why Sheryl winning in frontier was so special for you when an adult winning happens all the time in Macross.
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>>135606107
Why are Zentradi always causing problems? How come they haven't been genocided yet?
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>>135593362
I didn't
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>>135606185

I literally told you, retard. I. Had. Just. Turned. 20-ish. It was. PERSONABLE.
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>>135606077
If you have $40 to spare. And let's not forget that Frontier's preview episode ended with Ai Oboete Imasuka. It truly was something special.
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So how many "love triangle" will be shown here?

The bishie squad plus Delta guys are enough for girls having their own triangle.
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>>135593873
Hayate is no prize anyway. She'll get to fulfill her dreams as a singer, that's good enough.
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>>135606171
>Winderemere
its a planet not a Macross Fleet. Something like 7
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>>135606090
>She had tons, going from haughty bitch singer to Ranka's mentor to flirting with Alto to getting sick with space aids and giving up all hope to singing to give hope to the people, fucking Alto and moving in with him to spend her last days in as much happiness as possible.
But that's not development though, Sheryl didn't have to evolve her character to flirt with Alto, mentor Ranka or searching happiness, she seemed capable of doing that from the start (and in fact she pretty much did a lot of that right away), and I don't remember her ever acting like a bitch.

She's a pretty static character that happens to have a lot of depth, which is different from development.
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>>135594158
It's the turd of the franchise
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>>135606007
Mine too sort of
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>>135606250
I wasn't asking again.

>>135606107
Isn't it a planet though?
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>>135606273

Also, dat glorious ending art.
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>>135594655
>*sigh*
all of my nope.
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>>135606372

>What I meant is that I don't understand why Sheryl winning in frontier was so special for you

>not asking

Jesus christ anon.
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>>135605912
Who Ami indeed. That's another iM@S x Macross connection, though loosely.
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>>135606415
I was explaining what I meant, not asking again.
Should've said "didn't", not "don't", but whatever man, why are you overreacting.

In any case, it was a comment based on this:
>solidified my belief that there's hope after all that confident, adult-like characters (body/mind/soul) can in fact win in an anime industry dominated by shitty archetypes.
Which didn't make any sense because it's not a rare occurrence.
I did read your reply saying it was personal, and I seriously don't give a fuck anymore.
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>>135606606

>should've said didn't, not don't

Yeah, that makes a big difference anon. Not like I can read your mind.
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Speaking of voices, are the idols other than Freyja using the same person for singing and regular character voice?
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>>135606651

Yes. Freyja's Seiyuu is also going to be singing/character double role.

Sheryl was the only one (to my knowledge) who had two people playing her part.

I hope Delta can top this.
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>>135606783
Fucking awesome, Ami has some real pipes on her then if Ikenai borderline is any indication. Great harmonization on the other's parts.
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>>135606441
Isn't Xenoglossia considered a horrible aberration and blight upon the franchise by most?
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>>135606783
Mylene and Basara.
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>>135606783
Mylene was voiced by both Tomo Sakurai and Chie Kajiura (singing)
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>>135606818

Also, her deeper voice really gets my heart going.
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>>135594158
NO seriously
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>>135605769
Don't speak about these shitty movies, thanks.
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>>135606907
Yes, but it's still a hilarious show worthy of being watched for the trainwreck factor.
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>>135606922
>>135606934

7 is the only Macross I haven't watched. I'll catch up on it before Delta officially airs.

>>135606953

The 2nd movie was a direct sequel to the TV series though.
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>>135606934
Well Tomo Sakurai did do the singing for the Minmay cover album so she technically counts
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>>135606640
Maybe you should calm yourself down though, I wasn't even trying to argue.
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>>135595407
/mu/ tier i guess
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>>135606907
Yes, but it could easily brushed off as the main time line idols doing a mech show. Or dismissed as something that was a Mai Hime show with iM@S tacked on last minute.
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>>135606953
>shitty
You mean improved right?
Because the second movie was a huge improvement over the second half of the TV series.

Alto and Ranka are both better characters because of that, too.
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>>135596377
>>135596160
wow i can do it
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>>135607115
>Because the second movie was a huge improvement over the second half of the TV series
Look I liked the movies a lot but this just isn't true aside from the music.
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It's been nine years! Nine! Since Frontier came out, and pixiv is still pumping out art for Frontier (mostly Sheryl).
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Very little fanart for this show despite being the best opening preview episode of the year.

I hope it picks up during Spring broadcast.
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>>135607217

Also, this came out just a few days before the preview cast.

>>135607242

It's barely been two days since preview cast. Give it at least a week.
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>>135597906
holyshit
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>>135606979
>>135607115
I literally facepalmed several times while I watched these movies. The false death of Sheryl was one of the worst things I've ever seen.
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>>135607095
I'd like to believe it would be similar to the scene from the actual im@s anime where they have the giant robot skit but perhaps that's too outlandish. Or maybe not, considering >>135606977. Onto the backlog it goes.
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>>135607414

Even so. The movies improved on areas where the TV series fell short. They were good as they are, and only, really, the second movie actually counts; as it gives explicit closure that the TV series failed to deliver.
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>>135607177
The only issue it had was butchering Mikhail and KlanKlan characters.

Otherwise, it solves the plot much more neatly than the TV series did, and Ranka matures much more. Alto is almost the same except for the whole extended ending sequence.

Of course I'm just talking about the second movie being an improvement over the last third/second half of the series, the start of the series was much better on the TV version.
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>>135607217
>that neck
Actually it hasn't been 8 years. Remember Frontier officially aired April 2008 and the pilot episodes hardly count. They had released Frontier's pilot episode on December 2007 to meet with the 25th anniversary.
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>>135603686
Dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zuBSUJfpBk
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>>135607527

April 2008 to April 2015 is eight years anon. In four months, it will be nine years. Might as well count it as nine at this point.
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>>135607490
It got rid of basically all the romance between Sheryl and Alto though. While her win was made explicit it never even needed to be said in the series because it was so blindingly obvious.
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>>135607635
Might want to recheck your math there.
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>>135604684
>Gamlin
>derogatory
But he was best boy.
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>>135607635
Anon your math please. It will be 8 years by this April.
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>>135606372
Yeah it's a planet. I meant the people from that planet, I don't know what to call them. Windermerian?
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>>135607690
He was such a bro. Great character development, going from total scorn for Basara to becoming his staunchest ally.
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>>135605645
>>135605769
Honestly that is what I love about Macross romance. The mature older woman wins the guy instead of the usual archtype.
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>>135607647
There was still some romance there, even if much less than in the TV series. It's a fair trade for all the improvements.

Sugita's character was a complete throwaway in the TV series, for example, so his whole arc being eliminated help to smooth the plot. The whole plot regarding the Galaxy is much more concise too. Alto picking a girl at the end also stopped all the arguing about who won (even if Sheryl was the obvious pick), and him going away with the Vajra reinforced the whole communication theme, making for a much better ending.

Only complaints I could have are missing Ozma's flashback episode and Mikhail and KlanKlan development.

Movie obviously works better after watching the TV series though, it's not something I would recommend as a stand-alone work unlike DYRL.
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plus>zero
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>>135607975

Yes, but Zero aged better. It's fight scenes are great, and some of the songs are top notch.
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>>135607975
Only barely, all the rest are better than either.
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>>135607905
It's nothing special, Myung didn't have competition, in SDF both were adults, in Zero they were both teens and 7 hardly had romance. Your statement would only be right if Frontier was the only Macross series.

Also adult women are not a fucking archetype, and neither are teenagers for that matter. You're using the word archetype wrong, for fuck's sake, most of the adult women in Macross don't even act the same.
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>>135607975
Zero had Roy being cool all over it, so it can't be worse than Plus.
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mirage or death
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>>135608314
Freyja best girl, Mirage can't teach Hayate to dream.
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>>135596394
>that episode had a lot of delicious armpits.
picked the fuck up!
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>>135608314
>Neither have green hair
Harem ending confirmed
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>>135608348

You don't know that. Look at that S class Zettai Ryouki. Made up of god tier dreams.
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>>135608314
Is everyone dead set on the other person in the triangle being Mirage because it's unlikely for it to be another member of Walkure or is there another reason? Mature contrast to Freyja?
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original fan and i hate the way this one looks . I will give it a shot tho.
please tell me its not shit
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>>135586952
Yeah I hear ya man. I swear to god to fucking hell with all this idol and moe trash. Its ruining good series by having it incorporated ie: Gundam, Macross, Yugioh, Bahamut, Durarara, Gatchaman, Aquarion, ect
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>>135608348
But the triangle actually it's Mirage and Hayate try to win Freyja bowl, i mean you see, Mirage save Freyja in first episode(even it end up just misunderstanding.)
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>>135608468

It's either Mirage or Mikumo being part of that triangle. Mirage is the more likely choice for that to happen, as she's met both Freyja and Hayate. It also stands to mention that Mirage has straddled Hayate.
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>>135586952
Why is purple so superior?

Why is she cosplaying Sheryl this hard?
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>>135608468
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macross_Delta#Main_Characters
see
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>>135608468
The other members will have their triangle mostly.
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>>135608468
Most of the other girls seem to be more mature than Freyja.

But actually, if you think about it, Mirage seems pretty childish, if business oriented, Freyja while goofy can probably act more mature, she certainly seemed so when talking with Hayate.

The only other character I could guess as part of the triangle is Mikumo, as that's only if they want to repeat Ranka and Sheryl again (only Freyja is already more tolerable than Ranka). I'd like it better if it was Mirage, not only it parallels SDF but both Freyja and Mirage seem like fun characters.
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>>135608563

>cosplay Sheryl

Anon. Frontier set the bar damn high for a female protagonist in Macross.
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>>135608468
The credits have Hayate, Freyja and Mirage separated from the rest of the cast during the credits like Alto, Sheryl and Ranka were during Frontier.
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>>135598070
whats this from?
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>>135608572
Japanese wiki only has Hayate and Freyja as main characters.
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>Windmere is a planet. You see it on the map at the start of the episode. It's where the Knights are from. Humanity tried to colonize it. The natives didn't take it too well.
Findamia is a mistranslation of Windmerian. Rogue, anti-colonial elements within the UN fleets provided the Windmerians with the materials and blueprints required to build their own Variable Fighters. The head of the Knights, Keith Aero Windmere, appears to be prince of the nation, fighting for his planet's freedom against what they perceive to be an aggressive alien conglomerate attempting to colonize their planet.

Can anyone confirm?
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>>135608610
Mylene is better than Sheryl, fight me.
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>>135608562
>>135608572
>>135608578
>>135608597
>>135608622
I was curious as to whether it would be Mikumo instead but all this evidence cements it as being Mirage, especially the credits details. Oh well. Interested to see how the triangle plays out this time.

Mikumo best Walkure and potentially best girl?
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>>135593619
Not-Sheryl will netorare both of them and make the MC her boytoy.
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GIRI GIRI AI!
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>>135593641
Or the Vajra could appear and do their own thing in the background until someone decides to shoot them and end up on the receiving end of the anti-ship cannons on every Vajra unit there.
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>>135608693
Take your half assed Sheryl clone with you and fuck off.

This is between Mirage and Freyja now.
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>>135608700
IKENAI BORDERLINE
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>>135608679
Why can't they accept and assimilate into grorious human culture like the Zolans did?

I mean, it would be pretty shitty to get conquistador'd all over.
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>>135608693
I bet there will be Mikumo bowl that one delta squad member and one knight trying to win her.
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>>135608711
That wouldn't make any sense, we already got antagonists in Windmere and whatever is causing the Var Syndrome, adding Vajra too would be a mess.
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>>135608738
I've looped it nonstop for literally 6.5 hours now.

>there are people not rooting for the superior Jenius entry
And Mylene doesn't count since she was at the center of the triangle, unless you count Basara as the center and then her love rival would be that mountain.
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>>135608761
>Implying she's not fucking the delta squad leader
Yellow VF pilots are alpha males, he deserves getting to fuck the best piece of meat.
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>>135608691

We need a Macross game where we can dog fight it out anon. When that happens, I'll fight you. I hope you'll live to see that day. I'm counting on this battle in the future.
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>>135608830
Basara was in the center of a harem consisting of Mylene, the mountain and Gamlin.
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>>135608830
>superior Jenius
Her skills are sub-par
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>>135608843
Don't you have pictures where she doesn't look like a slut?
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>>135608832
Well we know the Ace guy is fucking red.
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>>135608907
>Sheryl
>not looking like a slut
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>>135608962
Pick one and only one.
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>>135608918
Red best girl
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>>135608880
Says who? You saw how she was able to exactly match Basara, who is widely considered one of the finest valk pilots out there in a cutting edge machine.
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>>135608871
>Gamlin x Basara
Please don't slander Gamlin like that. He is pure and saves himself for Mylene.

But really, Gamlin is moe as fuck.

>>135608880
Go find a job, Hayate.

>>135609008
I'm pretty sure he was talking about Mirage.
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>>135608918
I just noticed Squad Leader was red and not yellow.

What the fuck were you thinking Kawamori.
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>>135605487
Nobody has anything on Sheryl, other than Mikumo that's it.
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>>135609008
I meant Mirage. I thought you did too.
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>>135608907

Both you faggot. Both. Only best girl can do both.
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>>135609042
It just means that he's not in danger of being pineapple'd.

What pineapple dessert will we get this series?
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>>135609066
Best girls aren't sluts, and she certainly dresses like one.

How many dicks she had to suck to become a star?
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>>135609029
>Go find a job, Hayate.
Don't feel like it
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>>135608691
I rather chuckle.
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>>135609110

Only one. Alto's. After all, he gave her courage to become the star that shined across the entire galaxy.
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>>135608693
Is she's anything like Sheryl, one of the Wind Knights will try to seduce her and she'll mind-break him into her team instead.
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>>135609184

>anything like Sheryl

I swear to god, Delta is going to divide /a/ right down the middle. /m/'s gonna probably lose it too.
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>>135609240
Implying it hasn't begun already
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>>135609240
/a/ loves Sheryl unconditionally tho. There is no dividing.
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>>135609279

Point.

>>135609306

>unconditionally

There's a handful of Rankafags on this board. Fucking traitors.
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>>135592808
"Hey, lets put on clothes on our robot and infiltrate the enemy base"
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>>135589064
Given the tech of the series, yeah ok... but back in the day, not as far fetched as you might think....

http://99percentinvisible.org/episode/show-of-force/
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>>135609337
2 tops. And other 2 as trolls.

BleachOD and Justavisitor, perhaps some other weirdo, I can't remember their names now.
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>>135609306
>/a/ loves Sheryl unconditionally
Dumb statements like this is why nobody likes Sherylfags.
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>>135593873
She's a bit overbearing but I like her tentacle/penis/heart-thing she sure as hell beats Ranka
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>>135609398

>cyan
>hair is green

Congrats on being retarded anon.
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>>135609398
The ones that don't love Sheryl yet, should learn to. Period
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>>135591342
>Frontier
>good CG

I love this meme
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>>135586952
that dancing is comedy gold
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>>135609457

You're the only one loving it. So all the more power to you.
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>>135596377
>>135594793
>>135590947
Is she the top dog? I like her already. I fear she will die on mid-season.
>>
>>135609457
>I love this meme
I love this meme
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>>135609539
They never assigned ranks but she acts like the leader or perhaps owner of the group. Looks rich.
>>
>>135586952
>Love Live Delta
nice
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>>135593955
>Delta had the best premier episode in a long, long while.
>DAT SHIT CG
>DAT SHIT DESIGNS
>DAT SHIT SOUNDTRACK
Yeah....no
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>>135607841
>tfw that ntr episode
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coY_7YFN0yY
>>
>>135609539
>I fear she will die on mid-season.

The only ones I'm worried about on jump are "Not Appearing in any promo art" Master Scar and Chuck Mustang. Dude looks like he could pilot Getter-3 or get Kakizaki'd.
>>
>>135608832
>>135609042
wasn't yellow in the original show the fat guy who didn't get to eat his steak? when was yellow an ace?
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>>135606077
>Frontier opened up like no other.
Jesus fuck it really did attract newshits
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>>135607115
>second movie was a huge improvement
>ALTO AND SHERYL KNEW EACH OTHER AT A YOUNG AGE
>Plot manages to make sense now due to how poorly developed it is
>Ending is still shit

Yeah...no
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Macross peaked far too soon as a franchise and hasn't recovered since.
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>>135603686
were you in a coma?
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>>135610042
>we have a denier
never stops being funny
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>>135607018
That's getting into weird territory, considering that Aya Endou was the singing voice for younger Sheryl.
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>>135607414
>The false death of Sheryl was one of the worst things I've ever seen.
That also happened in the tv series as well.
>>
>>135610144
Jesus fuck you Macrossfags are delusional
>>
>>135610220
kek
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>>135609851
Skull lead is yellow and black
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>>135610220
Frontier kicked the shit out of Monogatari, Zero and UBW.
>>
>509 posts

Last page. It's been a good thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmCHZNyava8
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Its been fun guys, SherylxAlo best Macross couple.
>>
>>135606331
Yes it is, character development also means the changes that a character experienced through out the course of the series. Sheryl experienced a lot of remember she at one point of time in the series hit rock bottom and had to re-evaluate herself which is when she decided to sing even during her final days. Also her flirting with Alto went through 3 stages.

At first she merely flirted with him for fun, then she realized that she had feelings for him she tried to play the whole thing off as a joke, and then she finally accepted how she felt about him. She is also the type of character that loves being in control, and also likes being strong. Her love for Alto is what allowed her to accept that it's okay to be vulnerable.
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>>135610465
Not-Sheryl x whoever-of-the-enemy-that-falls-for-her best Delta couple.
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>>135610493
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>>135610508
What if she's the one that switches sides?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALJRek80zXw
An old video that any Macross fan should have seen at least once. All these feelings...
>>
>A Jenius that's not an Ace
Insulting the franchise this hard, eh Kawamori?
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>>135610718
She might be a good pilot, but is just tone deaf.
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>>135610688

Hnnnng. This is so goood.
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>>135610688
>>135610905
I found a better quality here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSzBuSdtQTk
>>
reminder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5PO6tttHZQ
>>
>>135611023

>spent a fucking week to download the 1080p Bluray rip of that alternate ending concert
>drive fails the week after
>lose it forever

I have never hated entropy more in my entire fucking life.
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>>135610811
She's probably just subpar as a pilot though.
>>
Ranka founder of Walkure or I Kumiko is actually Ranka disguised in the image of a Sheryl like personality.
>>
>>135610811
Well, at the very least she doesn't seem to be musically attuned the way Hayate, Freyja and the Aidorus are.
She couldn't hear the Ver-inducing song.
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>>135611386
Kumiko is a Sheryl groupie obviously.
>>
>>135610390
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrxmmizdX9E
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>>135606192
This is not Robotech.
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>>135605023
>dat bullet
Every time.
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>>135606783
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>>135608750
Heh~ I'm guessing other more primitive Protoculture seeded races is one reason why the Galaxy Treaty which binds the NUN prohibits invading alien planets.
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>>135599853
Spot a newshit
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