>>109012633 Brazil-fag here. School is such a lax environment here that you can do anything in class and not get called on it.
I used to play MTG in class, while others played cards and even domino. It wasn't all that bad, even. In some places students will smoke pot during class, but it's not like you can call those places school anymore.
>being late for class apparently makes you a delinquent >having bad grades will fuck up your resume for the rest of your fucking life >girls cannot use colorful accessories >individualist is kinshi >you have to wear your uniform at all times, even on days off >summer homework >student council somehow has powers that over-rule teacher and staff >you need permission for HAVING A JOB HOLY SHIT >what you do outside of school somehow reflects on your school >you have to clean the fucking toilets HOLY SHIT >you are expected to arrive earlier in order to clean the school COULD THIS GET ANY WORSE?!?! >you aren't allowed to be in relationships >surveys for what you want to do in the future >ribbon/tie colors indicate which year you belong to >disciplniary comitees WHO THE HELL THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA?! >dying your hair is frowned upon, makes you look like a delinquent >if you skip class, people you don't know will be forced to go to your place deliver the printouts you missed(surprisingly lax) >everyone has a booklet with the phone number and address of their school mates
>>109014132 >schools are never locked, and sneaking inside is easy >for that matter, none of your personal belongings that stay in school are safe either, and anyone can probe your stuff >the teachers/staff can breach your privacy at anytime for whatever reason, to probe your belonging(I am not even a FREEDOM type of person, and I think this is outraging) >you are not allowed to bring anything to school that isn't school related >NO RUNNING IN THE HALLWAYS >students may abuse their senpai previleges at anytime, at any place >you are NOT allowed to ride a motorvehicle to school, even if you have a license >people die/go missing during the rush to get the most popular pan
>>109014391 >there is always that one student who gets 100s and then there is another that gets near 0s That's not so surprising though, my sister's average of all grades in four years of high school was about 95 or so. And I had a friend who struggled to get two digit grades during the entire first year.
>>109013211 Respect of what? America's not a particularly nice country.
The pledge of allegiance was initially nothing more than a ploy by a flag salesman to sell more flags. But, with the rise of the Red Scare and McCarthy-ism, it became and remains to this day a means of social conditioning and the instilling of petty jingoism.
That may be all well and good outside the West, but it's just not the done thing in first world countries, and frankly we all regard the Pledge of Allegiance to be kinda creepy and fascistic.
>if a school is girls only, then they are all gay >if a school is guys only, then they are all delinquents >if a school is co-ed, all the girls are in love with the most average, unnoticable guy there who is also the only guy at the school who isn't actively seeking a girlfriend
>>109012633 The pledge is only done in elementary school. Middle and high school we never had to do it. Strictly speaking, the pledge isn't mandatory, you don't have to participate. But it'd be pretty unusual for a kid around 10 to go against the grain that hard. Where as in middle school you'd have smug tweens refusing to do the pledge on principle, so that's probably why they don't bother with it past elementary school.
>>109015253 Where did you go to school? It might be because I live in a very liberal part of the country. I mean, after 9/11 happened in middle school, they did drape a huge American flag in the main hall, but we still didn't do the pledge every morning. Much less in high school.
>>109015175 >>109015258 This. Discipline is one of the most important things a school thought to kids, but nowadays it's all thrown to the garbage because of the "muh individualism and special snowflakes" attitude.
>>109014891 I miss teacher respect. Sadly, many teachers in the US are there because they can't do anything else, don't really try to do a good job, and thus don't demand respect. Places where teaching is respected feel more civilized.
If you're good a memorization, you're a god. Cram school is shit. Being a transfer student is like being handed a popularity grenade you're legally allowed to throw at any time. If you speak any English, you're automatically everyone's best friend. Field trips are the best times to sneak off and make out. No one looks good in school uniforms, or else everyone looks amazing in school uniforms. People give a shit about clubs there. Every girl is either an aspiring waifu or a slutty whore.
>>109015387 It's called a physical exam, you have them in America as well, but they're not mandatory and are typically only performed as-needed and on your own time, visiting a doctor of your own choice.
I never had to get a full physical while in school because I never did anything that required it. My brother played on the school football team so he needed to do a full physical exam and get a signed permission slip from the doctor saying he could play.
I do recall doing some hearing and vision tests in elementary school, which is how they found out I needed glasses, but all my weighing and measuring was done with our family doctor, not at school. I think the reason for this is old fashioned American prudes.
>>109015556 >fighting That's not really violence, no, what I meant was the school shootings and stabbings that happen every week or so in the burgerland. Also, I think the students are not dumb or cocky enough to smoke weed at their schools, they do that at their home, at least that's what they do here.
>>109015780 Damn, that's disgusting. I really wish that education systems worldwide would go back to the olden days when discipline mattered and teachers and principles still instilled fear on students. Now we are raising a generation of nothing but degenerate scum.
>>109015767 They didn't give a shit what religion you were, you had to go by their rules and follow their beliefs. It was a very, very heavy Christian school. Like we got taught that evolution was wrong, had an actual lesson on the Bible that we got exam'ed on and once a month we'd have to dedicate 5 hours on a sunday to a ceremony at school. It was a shit.
>>109015780 Lol I used to hotbox in the school bathroom I remember a lot people were crying about my class because we all went and smoke cigs/joints in the bathroom and that became a fucking gas chamber.
>>109015904 This is funny. Just last year I was walking to my car (I went to a highschool) and a kid drove by yelling "you wanna buy some weed?!" at me. I live on the west coast so it's pretty much the status quo.
>>109015954 >algebra and theoretical subjects they're never going to use and no time learning practical based vocational subjects. Unless your idea of vocational subjects are limited to flipping burgers and standing in front of the cash machine all day, those stuff do matter.
>>109015957 But it's totally voluntary, again, you can choose to just not stand up and say the pledge. Hell, I did a roman salute to the flag and said "Seig Heil" to the flag when we were done and no one bats an eye. It's not like it's some sacred event. >>109015904 Nah, drugs are pretty neat.
>>109016140 You can stop treating people like deadbeat scum without shouting at and beating them for being deadbeat scum.
A little bit of fucking respect and sincerity goes a long way. Building a good relationship with your pupils, and telling them of your disappointment when they do wrong is often more effective than trying the throw them through their school career. Because if you do, they will hate you for it. And some will break, a frightening prospect for a country that already has so many school shootings.
>>109016226 I wish I didn't watch the anime before playing. However I was an idiot who couldn't figure out how to change system local or whatever and I ended up watching the anime. Some day I'll play it again. After I finish the three I'm currently playing...
>>109016348 I think a big problem is that US schools are just too big for teachers and principles to build relationships with their pupils. In those number their inevitably going to be treated as a problem that need solving, rather than an actual person.
>>109016348 The average high school students are like a pack of dogs you see, the teachers need to show absolute authority over them, else they think they are on equal level and start abusing the respect their teachers show them.
>>109016473 Indeed. My IB Biology class was designed for 10, maybe 15. We had more than 30. Pretty crazy. Also we had more middle schools and elementary schools being built, but no high schools. Where did they think that the children will be going? I don't know.
>>109016355 And a wooden boat big enough to hold a pair of every species on earth is plausible? It being built by a family of goat fucking shepherds in the middle of the desert with no prior experience building ships is plausible? YEC requires a lot of suspension of disbelief
>>109016616 Exactly. I see this in my own school. In Scotland, we merge middle and high school together into secondary school. The form one classes usually have 30 kids in them, and can be pretty rowdy, and unfocussed. But, for example, my Advanced Higher Classics class (in Sixth year) had 7 people, and we got on fantastically with both our classics teachers.
>>109016746 Because god gave him the ability to do it. When it's a matter of faith you can't argue with logic, the same goes backwards. That's one thing people will never understand: Faith is something personal and that should not influence your every day life or even your decisions and logic isn't something you should use to chose what you believe or how you feel about something.
>>109016928 >That's one thing people will never understand: Faith is something personal and that should not influence your every day life or even your decisions and logic isn't something you should use to chose what you believe or how you feel about something.
>>109016639 Well, my experience was that even though teachers acted with utmost respect towards pupils and treated them like equals, they still acted like total assholes and ignored every rule. I do understand your reasoning but you expect too much from an average teenager. The kind of educational utopia you describe could only work if the parents thought their kids of stuff like human relations, respect, honor, empathy etc., just being a proper human being. They do not, however, most of the parents are either lazy dipshits (a bimbo who got pregnant right after high school and a meat-brained jock) or too busy working their ass off and fucking their neighbors to give two shits about their kid. So, the teenagers end up learning nothing of life, they don't know the concept of mutual respect, thus they act like cocky faggots if you do not instill fear and very clearly show that their actions will have grave consequences.
>>109017016 N-No, I thought about it when I realized that deeming people "stupid" because they have faith in something is retarded and that I'm not a special snowflake But I'll check it out, thanks anon
>>109016704 Because I love discipline. I like to think that hard work bears fruit and people should always try to do their best but what I see IRL contradicts that so much. I feel disgusted sad and enraged.
>>109016810 I do not browse /pol/. I do not have racist beliefs. I do not believe in any religion. I just believe in order and discipline.
>>109017106 I usually shat in the teacher's bathroom until they brought me to the headmaster for it. I just said I had to shit and I'd rather be suspended rather than have to shit in a bathroom without locked doors and where most of the doors were ripped open, he told me to go shit in the handicapped bathroom and so I did for the last 2 years
>>109017261 I wasn't edging, anon, I didn't swear in front of the headmaster, I just explained to him, calmly, why I couldn't use the public bathrooms and that I won't shit in a place where people can hear me or smell my shit. And there were no toilet paper in the bathrooms either.
>>109016639 Have you never gone to school? Teenagers are total pieces of shit. My best teachers were the ones most disliked by the class for being "annoying", "lame" or "strict"; while the ones who kept trying to be "friends" with the students ironically had no respect from anyone in the class. With these teachers' complete refusal to instill any kind of authority, the students just did as they pleased, classes were shit and the subject was always late. You're not supposed to like the teacher; however, you are supposed to shut the fuck up and let him do his job.
>>109017516 You need to be strict, yeah, but treating them like a pack of dogs will only get you hated and if you got a problematic class it won't be fun. You need to have a balance between being an asshole and being a pussy
>>109017516 Weird because in highschool everyone in my classes paid attention, but some of my teachers were pieces of shit for indoctrinating us and saying bullshit that I called them out for. My english class was a class where we covered rhetoric but our teacher never let us really discuss anything and if anyone had a dissenting opinion, she would tell us to stop discussing whatever article/political comic/book we were discussing.
I personally really liked my private school, except that they taught us FUCKING SIGN LANGUAGE for our mandatory language, holy shit, I have never once used it, and it kept me from getting a straight A honor roll
>>109018127 >>109018127 In my highschool, commons was the lunchroom and if you had that for study hall at the beginning of the day, you could show up late and skip it, and if it was the last period, we could just leave early.
>>109018127 No. The only bit of freedom you have in American high school is lunch. We also had a study hall class at my school, but seniors could opt out of it for early release instead, provided they had good grades and had permission from their parents.
In study hall though, you just sat in a normal classroom and did homework/reading/some other quiet activity.
-Exams are much more important, you take an exam to get into highschool.
-"Intelligence" and good test scores seem to be big social bonuses there. Like "wow what a hot guy check out his TEST SCORES". Test scores are also posted in the hallway so everyone can see what hot guy got the best test scores.
-They wear uniforms.
-They eat a lunch and giving a lunch to a qt boy is considered a way to flirt.
-They have special kinds of shoes to wear inside and shoe lockers (you can put stuff in there to flirt like a note to set up a "confession"
-People hang out on the roof? I am assuming this one cannot be true IRL though.
-Kids stay with the same class all year. THey are numbered (grade level)-(class). Like 3-2 is 3rd year of highschool/middle school class #2.
>>109015778 >random girl brings lunch for you, genuinely neither of you know why she doesnt even fucking know you >never bring lunch ever again because someone will always make food for you >magic fucking seat
-Smoking is apparently akin to a crime against humanity. -The school can decide on parts of your life OUTSIDE the school (like whether or not you can have a part time job).
And the best: -Apparently you can't get out of your school in Japan, until the final bell rings. Like, you want to grab a lunch at a nearby snack-bar or pizzeria in town? No you're forced to either bring your food or eat at the cafeteria. What the shit.
>>109019027 Brazil-fag here again. My Highschool actually had a school festival, but it is a very uncommon thing. It had all the usual games like scavanger hunts and sports competitions. It was cash.
I suppose it's normal for schools in many countries to have clubs, but compulsory attendance and the level of dedication you see in anime shouldn't be common anywhere else.
>>109018966 Girls cooking for you is flirting anywhere in the world.
>>109018952 I can appreciate Japan for trying to highlight intelligent people. Unfortunately, school grading systems aren't very accurate for measuring real intelligence.
Wearing uniform is pretty common around the world, too. I though it was weird when I was living in Canada and uniforms were only for solemn occasions.
I bet roofs were common places for hanging out, until kids started jumping off them. My guess is that it's a novel thing from old visual novels/games/anime that doesn't exist IRL, but people still enjoy. Correct me if I am wrong.
>>109017740 Do they still do that? Back in elementary school everyone was forced to do it until one day when all the kids just stop giving a fuck and don't even bother saying anything. After that my school haven't played any pledge of allegience then. That was when I got to like...4th grade.
>>109019198 >Apparently you can't get out of your school in Japan, until the final bell rings.Like, you want to grab a lunch at a nearby snack-bar or pizzeria in town? No you're forced to either bring your food or eat at the cafeteria. What the shit.
I thought that was normal, with schools over at America. Save for a few schools I remember but students, usually the seniors, always fuck up and make it so the entire school would stop letting kids out anymore after they do something seriously retarded, like going outside and throwing rocks at stores.
>>109014132 >everyone has a booklet with the phone number and address of their school mates >you need permission for HAVING A JOB HOLY SHIT >girls cannot use colorful accessories >having bad grades will fuck up your resume for the rest of your fucking life >NO RUNNING IN THE HALLWAYS
>>109019743 >I thought that was normal, with schools over at America. Save for a few schools I remember but students, usually the seniors, always fuck up and make it so the entire school would stop letting kids out anymore after they do something seriously retarded, like going outside and throwing rocks at stores.
How is it the responsibility of the school what you do outside?
Here the instant the kid steps out of the school grounds he can do whatever, it doesn't matter until he comes back in for afternoon classes.
>>109020014 Who wwould be responsible then? You can't blame a kid because the kid doesn't have shit to give. Parents who left their kids at school? The schools responsible for letting them go while under their watch.
>>109018127 Not where I went to school. Though the school is shit but everyone here thinks its the greatest thing because it had a movie made about how we let blacks play football way back when. We did have the option for study hall and basically that amounted to me and my friend bringing cake to the lonely ara ara milf teacher so that she let us play on our PSPs.
>The schools responsible for letting them go while under their watch.
"Their watch"? What? The school isn't a fucking daycare center. They have nothing to "watch" they're here to teach things to kids who attend classes, what the kid does outside their grounds isn't their problem.
>>109018127 Not exactly, we had a small "senior lounge" outside the cafeteria that only seniors or people they invited could use. We had 9 equal length periods in one school day, one of which was used for lunch (and the entire high school got one of 4 periods in the middle of the day). If you had enough credits, you could opt to take an "option" class, which is basically study hall, but you could really do whatever the hell you wanted. Sometimes I went to hang out with my friends during lunch, sometimes I went to another class that had a teacher I really liked. I probably could've left early, but I never felt like it.
>>109018127 We had 8 periods in a school day, and one of them was a free period where you could go wherever (I went to the library to read manga on the computer or read) and a lunch period. No commons area though or anything.
Hey do you want to be a bully? Do you want to be rewarded for being a bully? Join the Student Council.
Also, if a girl manages to talk to you at school ever, shes been in love with you since you were 4 years old when you shared your ice cream cone with her or something when she dropped hers by accident.
>>109014132 >>109014463 According to my mum who went to school in 11 land almost all of this is true. In her school it was against the rules to have a job but she went on a exchange program to the United States and came back the teacher accused her of having a job and slapped her in front of the whole class. She didnt even get a repermand for doing it and didnt appligize after it was found out that my mother was in America after all. So yeah fuck that shit. Also another thing is the PTA has the power to quite litterally expel any teacher/staff from a school on the fly. But holy shit they are like the Gestapo. >be 16 >visiting grandparents house >taking a walk down to train station >See PTA parent from high school >"where is your uniform dont you go to school?" >say nope in casual tone >gets irked starts yelling about me not being in school >demands I tell the name of the school I go to >straight up in English tell her "West Orange High School happy now bitch"? >look of confusion >start talking back to friend in english about what a bitch she was >laugh and go to train station and then to the middle of nowhere fun place nipland is.
>>109029566 Nope, My mom lived in the same apartment when she studied in America the 2nd time. And then my dad moved to Japan with her when she went back. He fixed cars back then and became a forman for a repair shop. Its funny because he nearly shat himself when he saw his first GT-R since he never saw such a thing. Now he restores 30s era Fords and one he worked on managed to win AACA 28B class.
Is Japan the only country which randomly shuffles classes every year or is it more widespread? It never seems to get mentioned in these threads and its one of the most bizarre things about Japanese educational system to me. Why would you do that? Doesn't it negatively affect socialization?
>>109030612 It's not that we didn't do shit, it's that what we did was useless. There were these writing assignments we used to do, five paragraphs long: one opening, three body, one closing. I did at least one every year from 2nd grade until I graduated. That's right, the same goddamn assignment for ten years. Fuck Florida.
>graduating year >had faggot teacher i fucking hated >has a colostomy bag >on the last day of school first thing in the morning >put ex-lax in his coffee >skipped the rest of the day and played video games
I wish I knew what happened. I hope he fucking shat all over himself. Stupid faggot.
>>109031051 I was a pervy 4 year old. I always used to watch when my mom would exercise to this tae-bo tape. There a girl in the back with huge boobs bouncing like crazy. I was totally rock the entire time. When I was in kindergarten my teacher had huge titties too. They would bounce around when we did jumping jacks every morning. Shit was so cash.
>>109027968 Virginia Beach. I got nearly beachfront property, can see the ocean from my front deck and can walk to it in less than 2 minutes.
The food is great, the people are nice, and the 3DPD is surprisingly non PD compared to the rest of Virginia.
Apparently we also have one of the best education systems in the US despite it being terrible. My mother was a teacher, special education, and it was pretty fucked up administration treated those kids.
Yeah, the educations not to bad. Lots of poor people, predominately black make for some education hurdles. I'm a product of the norfolk school system. There is a lack of quality private education though within the area I feel. There's a couple of catholic schools, but nothing really historic and competitive other then Norfolk Academy in my area. they are probably only competitive at spending money
>Those kids are fucking monsters. >The schools reputation actually matters. >lolis everywhere . >90% of the teachers are rapists unlike in the Us where its around 97% >they get served food in class >A mech can show up and start wrecking the city and you'll still be required to show up to school > Penis inspection day isn't administered isn't everyday when you take gym by your coach
Like how rural schools in Japan can be really fucking dirty.
I don't understand the point of wearing indoor shoes when your squatting toilet bathroom is the single most vile area in the entire grounds, nor the point of hiring custodians when they literally walk past trash in the hallways enka and not giving a shit.
>>109019033 It was real sugar and not corn syrup, their cans are made of steel. It is funny how these two things make such a huge difference in the taste. When my older brother came to visit he found a beer vending machine and still claims it was some of the best beer he had ever had in his life. LOL at the fact he was only 19.
At the american private school I went to, a few Japanese kids got in with scholarships/connections and some of them wore their own custom made school uniforms. Most of the kids I went to school with were Japanese and their rich parents bought them into the school. One kid in my grade was something like a fourth cousin to the emperor's family. Once the Japanese kids found out they treated him much differently, just because he was related to royalty. Many Japanese boys and girls would become Idols and a few had promising music careers and were famous, they were all very humble about it though. Or they came to the school because they were Idols and their agencies wanted them to have a higher class image. My younger brother along with many other white and half/white (mostly light hair kids) had child modeling careers. The modeling agents often had to be forced off campus because they would aggressively try to get parents to get their kids into modeling. One of the rich kids I babysat lived next to a Japanese rockstar and a few times the roads had been barricaded to prevent fans from swarming his house. Because I was white the cops/security let me through. My younger brother got lost while riding the subway. (He is a fucking airhead) My mom had to go through about 3 hours of interrogations at the police station before they would release him back to her. The police had literally nothing better to do in Japan because crime was/is so low. Many kids had bodyguards, or drivers that picked them up from school everyday.
>>109018127 Nope. My elementary school had a after school gym thing that 0.5% of students were chosen for because of excelling grades+behavior. I was in it, but hated it since I didn't even like any of the things to. All I did was play that pool game with the red/white bumpers. It was broken too.
>>109036618 continuing The kid of the voice actor for yoshi road my bus. We would sometimes see the voice actor at the bus stop. The father of another girl that road my bus owned or worked for a company that took care of American celebrities (or other English speaking celebrities) that came to Japan. The girl would often tell stories about when she met celebrities like Kevin Bacon or Denis Leary. I remembered when she remarked Denis Leary was actual very polite. And she couldn't bring herself to speak in Kevin Bacon's presence. She had a celebrity signature notebook she was filling. In my PE class during swimming they taught us Cruise Line safety procedures. Such as turning our jeans into a life preservers, ways to preserve body heat in cold water, and practicing falling into water from high heights. During spring and the cherry blossoms falling the whole mood of the country was different. I remember watching all sorts of anime when I lived in Japan. I would not want to move back there unless I was paid a shit ton of money to do so.
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