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>>19597273
how do wizards fix a broken arm? they cast it

>>19597292
moar

>>19597273
But you still have a thread on page 3: >>19588035

Why make a new one???

>>19597273
To clarify its meant to link to the top of the thread: No.19588035: Not to any specific post, first time starting a thread, sorry.

>>19597295
It past the bump limit, so it was only a matter of time, anon, until a new one was made, how long do people usually wait, past like 5 or 6?

>>19597315
They wait until it's gone.

>>19597323
Usually? No, they wait until about 350 posts.

>>19597323
oh sorry anon, I'm not a regular so I don't know general policy.

Anyway what type of magic do you want to discuss? What spells you been casting lately? What potion have you been brewing?

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>>19597294
Im making these up on the spot so they'll take some time but ok.

Why won't wizards take reptiles with them on trips? because they cause things to dragon

>>19597348
Fantastic.

Knock Knock
Whos there?
Witch
Witch who?
How witch I know....

>>19597348
A Wizard walks into a bar with his pet Unicorn, which goes and lies down. The bartender says "Hey pal, you can't leave that lyin' on the floor!" The wizard says, "That's not a lion."

behold what omg has become!

>>19597273
Wow freemasonry watch got DMCA'd by OTO

http://freemasonrywatch.org/minerval_crowley.html

Lmfao the Picatrix suggest you dress up like a jew to invoke Saturn because it's "familiar" with them.

There are also all these cool bead-making instructions taken from Aristotle, but they involve literal pieces of lions' brain and melting very toxic chemicals.

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I would recommend this book anyone interested in becoming a wizard. A fascinating and well-researched history that you should all should borrow or read. Its chapter on Enchonian should silence doubters or at least give them something to think about.

Anyone here wanna talk about the formula of ALIM as relates to XI? Or point me to a good source, if not? Thanks.

>>19597370
>Lmfao the Picatrix suggest you dress up like a jew to invoke Saturn because it's "familiar" with them.
seems like david icke was right after all

>>19597364
>behold what omg has become!
Is that meant to be a good thing or bad thing?

My sarcasm detector is in the shop...

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>>19597355
my brain hurts now

How does a wizard browse the web while drunk? he uses his scroll bar

>>19597405
>fuck off
What happened to being polite and not rude?.
Also google is your friend-try there.

Anyway also recommend by others https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2463640.Wizards

>last book
from the sounds of it you were always cheap/lazy.

>>19597403
well i'd rather have an omg jokes edition than omg "lets debate race jews and politics" edition

>>19597428
Agreed. I'm sure everyone is tired of the same tactics and debate, time after time after time.
>>19597422
How many witches does it take to screw in a bulb? 13 if she coven busy.

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>>19597439
What do you call a famous witch? An Alister

Sup /omg/. Any recommended reading on hedge-crossing and general hedge witchery?

>>19597459
https://www.google.com/search?q=hedge+trimmer&rlz=1C1GIWA_enUS610US610&oq=hedge+trimmer&aqs=chrome..69i57.2217j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

>>19597273
Anyone else use birthstones or talismens to enhance and protect their aura?

>>19597469
try your google-fu anon, Im not here to hand hold you. Why not try borrowing it like I suggested? I'm sure your local library will have a copy.

Does Crowley/Thelema have anything to offer for a Christian Hermetist neophyte?

>>19597442
cause there is an entire board dedicated to political postings and people should try and contain/restrict it to that one place, instead of bringing it up on every freaking board possible.

>>19597459
The Power Classes Vii Hedge Wizard - XUANQI CO UK getting started ...
xuanqi.co.uk/the/power/the_power_classes_vii_hedge_wizard.pdf

>>19597459
https://twitter.com/hedgerowwizard?lang=en

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What time did Alister Crowley wake up every morning? At Dawn

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>>19597459
http://hedgewitchforest.com/

http://www.angelfire.com/folk/greenwitch/sacred.html

Hope these help you-it should at least start you.

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>>19597635
castle walls, clothes, even skin
are hedges protecting others
from you

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Is following a JoS-style summoning without a circle or traditional call safe?
I doubt a spirit would kill or life-ruin for a polite calling, right?

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>>19597385
I'm thinking about buying it because I couldn't find it anywhere... Is this a good one as well? Community seems to like it.

>>19597702
I wouldn't recommend it.

>>19597385
To that anon, who wanted a dog, its going cheap second hand online, would cost you about five pound in total, are you really that cheap.

>>19597767
It's a translation of a famous book for witch hunters, if that's your subject then yes, for historical thoughts about the subject, witchcraft, of the time, it would be invaluable.

>>19597822
Meant pdf.

>>19597702

Depends on the spirit, depends on their mood, depends on you. Belial or Asmodeus would fuck your asshole sideways given half a chance, for luls. Overall, I strongly advise against it unless you've already managed to accomplish K&C of the HGA and are fully capable of handling your shit.

I want to make an elexir with Alchemy, and have a question - in the stage of separation, do you add two parts spirit to one part ingredients? Some sources say 1:1, some say 2:1.

I am only superficially familiar with the subject, maybe I should read more, but physical work is interesting.

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>>19597767
I would recommend the recent complete translation of the Maqlû Text by Tzvi Abusch, not to be confused with the book written by Joshua Free.

Pic related, some of the source material.

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>>19597389
kek

if you have the understanding the XI degree folder in the Mega is probably a good place to start
>>19597653
Is there a good archive of the Hekate Station docs anywhere? I had a bunch saved but the website I got them from disappeared

>>19598072
>recent complete translation of the Maqlû Text
Link?

>>19598191
>>19598072
HOLY DOGSHIT AFTER LIKE FIVE FUCKING YEARS DELAY TZVI ABUSCH AND BRILL FINALLY DROPPED VOL. II OF THE MESOPOTAMIAN ANTI-WITCHCRAFT TEXTS.

I'm having a moment, pardon me.

>>19598191
https://www.amazon.com/Witchcraft-Maql%C3%BB-Writings-Ancient-World/dp/1628370815/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1505518976&sr=8-1&keywords=maqlu

>>19597389
ALIM is essential to Kenneth Grant's work, but be careful

Also read what the guardian of Qoph has to say in A Gathering of Masks

As for the XI degree I've come to the conclusion that there is probably no living Thelemite who really understands this degree and its implications, at least in the Caliphate OTO. If there is work being done on that level it is almost certainly never going to be spoken of openly

>>19598210
>$263.00
Man fuck Brill.

>>19598217
I think he split up his studies:
http://www.brill.com/products/book/magical-ceremony-maqlu

>>19598210
>ANTI-WITCHCRAFT
I always viewed that as a poor translation, considering "Magician" was a title of one of the many priestly classes that comprised the clergy of the time.

>>19598260
They're using the anthropological "harm" meaning.

>>19598273
>They're using the anthropological "harm" meaning.
I know, but I think many practitioners will be triggered by the title. So I added a little context in order to clear up any confusion.

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>>19598232
>shopping on Brill directly.

>>19597367
Not surprising.

I was threatened with legal action for publishing K's article on my blog (which hasn't been updated in ages), as well as (entirely legally) posting some of my exchanges with FSR Akhem Sekher.

The delusion of some people...

>>19597459
Mad Diviner, IIRC, had some articles on that. Might want to check it out.

>>19597556
A little bit. Not too much. The biggest part would be the Enochian, and perhaps a bit of a different light on the Qabalah of it all.

>>19597702
>JoS
>wannabe 14/88 satanists
Please. You'd have a better time trying to fuck a goat.

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>>19598429
>I was threatened with legal action for publishing K's article
Theletubbies claiming copyright? Nah, couldn't be.

>>19598443
Yeah, it was about libel, because they obviously didn't have a massive fuck-up with murder, rape and child molesters associating with their reps.

>>19598449
Honestly why are they such cucks about suing for libel?

More important question, can I get a word on what astrological coordinate system the author of the picatrix is using? Surely some kind of sidereal? But which one?

May not be the right place to ask but is rebuilding / recharging a sigil a bad idea? I made a command a few weeks ago that worked, but I'd like to reissue it now for another run of the same task. Should I be making a brand new sigil or can I redraw the first and repeat the whole process?

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>>19598612
>why are they such cucks
You'll figure it out eventually.

>>19598612
Because the Thelema of Crowley is long past. I imagine the only people who join now are egomaniacs or sycophants. Anyone with sense or genuine power probably leave soon after joining, if they join at all

What do the three dots represent beside A.'.A.'. ?

>>19598681
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therefore_sign

>>19598681
They mean "Sensitive information redacted".

>>19598632
Arabic sidereal.
You'll get more insight from the Islamic Golden Age's grimoire systems which are a pain in the ass to get into.

>>19598690
This is a thing but it turns Ayn Rand into an initiate.

Those dots had been used in Freemasonry to delete sensitive info for generations.

>>19598690
I've taken a mathematics class in my life, the use is clearly different.

>>19598697
Thanks monkey man

>>19598702
What are those three dots arranged in a triangular pattern?

The three dots (or three points) were formerly fashionable in Masonic writing instead of the usual periods after initials. The practice was apparently started in France by the non-recognized Grand Orient of France in 1774 and Masons were sometimes called 'Three Point Brothers'. The usage became popular in the US and is seen today in some Scottish Rite documents. Any significance they had two hundred years ago is now long lost.

In Masonic traditions the symbol is used for abbreviation, instead of the usual period. For example "R∴W∴ John Smith" is an abbreviation for "Right Worshipful John Smith" (the term Right Worshipful is an archaic title just as "Land Lord" is and indicates that Brother Smith is a Grand Lodge officer).

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>>19598697
>"Sensitive information redacted"

>>19598697
I'm coming to the conclusion that nobody knows what exactly is going on with the Equinox ritual so I'm thinking we should do a more formal Q and A session to elaborate on your ritual script on the slack.

>>19598711
I've heard them referred to as "Honor Points"

>>19598697
>Arabic sidereal.
Is that the one that bisects the chart with the positions of Aldebaran and Antares? It's like I wish this stuff was standardized, but at the same time the wealth of diversity in systems is kinda thrilling

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>>19598711
>Masonic
>Masonic
>Scottish Rite

I thought you were a fucking scholar, Ape? I haven't visited /x/ in a bit. Is this your new irony?

Also,
>shopping on Brill
Are you a fucking cryptoshill now. Ape?
Did someone give your ass tenure? WTF?

>>19598751
>I wish this stuff was standardized
>unique to YOUR locale
>standards
Are you okay?

>>19598744
I was gonna collate replies a bit either tonight or tomorrow depending on how much homework I finish before I pass out for the night.

I mean it's a pretty simple operation, unless we're still having issues setting a date in stone.

>>19598751
https://www.facebook.com/IslamicOttomanAstrology/
https://books.google.com/books/about/Albohali_Arabis_astrologi_antiquissimi_a.html?id=-NZYuJsX9HQC

>>19598760
>Did someone give your ass tenure?
Oh man I wish.

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>>19598783
>83
>>Oh man I wish.
>83

Keep at it, bro.

>>19598783
Everyone is up on Slack btw, someone has mistaken me for you so I'm just going to casually impersonate you and field their questions.

Just kidding I explained that we're distinct human beings. But I did field questions! So I know folks have them.

Everyone seems down for Friday night- our one Italian br. is going to have to stay up late to do it but he seems willing.

That book is in Latin so it didn't exactly answer my question but the fb page is sick

>>19598832
Shit I didn't realize I was odd man out still.

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>>19598768
What I meant was, for the purposes of studying astrology, I wish humanity would have somehow stuck with a single mode of dividing up the ecliptic. But the diverse reality is both obviously inevitable and sort of awesome, so I'll survive .

>>19598857
You and Palochan are the only delinquents, I believe

>>19598876
>single mode of dividing up the ecliptic
It's based on your locale. Shit like that cannot be universal upon a sphere.

>inb4 Flat Earth "Theory"

>>19598897

Sorry, can you say more about what you mean? This is one of those situations where I can't tell if I know way more than a person who is saying something I find confusing, or way less lol.

In sidereal Astro for example, one system makes the zodiac by drawing a straight line across the ecliptic between Antares (Scorpio) and aldeberan (taurus) and divides up the rest of the circle from there. Another uses Spica as its initial marker (and some other star, I can't remember). That's what I mean, there're several different ways.

The tropical astrology just said "ok fuck that, it changes all the time due to precession and that's confusing as hell" and decided that instead of all this, we'll just unmoor the system from the physical locations of stars themselves and just make the Spring Equinox each year the zeroth degree of Aries. So it's linked to the movement of the earth around the sun, rather than the movement of the earth in relation to distant stars

>>19598960
There's even a system that divides the ecliptic based on the physical size of each constellation, not giving a shit that each of the constellations are vastly different in size, which is kinda cool. So smaller constellations get less than their "allotted" 30degrees of the 360degrees in a circle- they get the exact amount they literally take up on the ecliptic, and bigger constellations get more. So like Virgo is humongous and gets a shitload of space on the wheel. That's got nothing to do with your location on the globe, it's entirely about how astrologers in the region, or school of astrology, elected to divide up their wheel. It's a pain in the goddamn ass to be honest. I remember when I only thought there were two methods...such simple, pure times

>>19598960
>>19599023

Won't even pretend that I know where you're coming from regarding astrology.
So just some random ramblings from some random chan poster..
I look at it (dividing the ecliptic) the same way I look at the numerous house systems, some are more 'useful' or 'relevant' to the subject of the query. For example, I use the equal houses for elemental (FWAE) related, Kotch works best for me when I do a natal chart, Placedus for 'worldly', et cetera.

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>>19598960
>>19599023
>>19598960
Following Astrology is pointless unless you're looking at the literal sky above you.

Astrology is the personal "objective" truth of the "Luminaries" influence upon your existence, and the center of YOUR influence.

>>19599035
>numerous house systems
All based on locale. The Luminaries above you currently change if you move location. Their influence over you changes too, based on the luminescence upon your birth.

>>19598612
Well, you know, because they don't have proper lineage?

>>19598656
Doesn't matter. It's sigils, not rocket science.

>>19598711
So does the symbol numerate to 0, 1 or 3?

>>19598832
There's a Slack? I WANT FUCKING IN.

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>>19599073
>because they don't have proper lineage?

For fuck's sake, just read the texts? Truth cares "FUCK ALL" about lineage.

>You're just being ironic though, right?

>>19599097
>You're just being ironic though, right?

More like playing on the CS thing from last thread, but yeah, call it irony if you like.

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>>19599099
93, Frater!!!

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>>19599109

93/810

>>19597829

And for actual information on witchcraft, it's worthless.

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>>19597385

This one is probably a little better.

>>19597635

Garbage.

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>>19597459

Eric Devries, Hedgerider: Witches and the Underworld
Veronica Cummer, To Fly By Night
Harmonia Saille, Hedgeriding
Harmonia Saille, Hedgewitchcraft

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>>19599158

Oops, forgot another really good one.

>>19598681

They represent the three supernals and are meant to indicate that the user gets their orders from a "higher source".

>>19599189
People claim this (based on esoteric French freemasonry) but I've never seen any actual evidence or documentation that this is the case
>>19599123
Nothing mentioned in these threads is worthless provided you actually do the work. Idly whining about other people's esoteric systems actually is worthless though

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>>19599035
For sure I agree with you totally. I'm still turning this over in my mind so disclaimer this is like an uninformed opinion still, but Tropical astrology (the one where the ecliptic is divided by anchoring zero degrees Aries to the spring equinox) is related to the state of "coming to be an passing away"- it's inherently more solar and transitory because it's root is the earth's travel around the sun and the rising and falling of the sun's journey towards and away from the pole star. Sidereal astrology is more stellar inherently and like "far reaching" in nature because it's anchor points are the position of the earth relative to distant stars. So it naturally has more...span, more distance to its capacity. Idk just half thoughts.

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>>19599229
>it's
Wut are apostrophes

>>19599229
Astrology has been described as being as much science as art. The science part is of course the math, the art part being learning both what 'works' and how to interprete. And that only comes from the experience of testing many charts with many 'systems'.
God speed. It's a life long journey.

>>19599296
>interprete
please ignore that last 'e'.

>>19599213
For you: http://www.constellationsofwords.com/Constellations/Barry_Long.htm

Grains of salt, etc.

>>19599353
Ape, in your Saivism folder the file Self-Realization-in-Kashmir-Shaivism--The-Oral-Teachings-of-Swami-Lakshmanjoo-by-Lakshman-John-Hughes has only one page. Any chance you can upload the full pdf?

>>19599366
http://www.academia.edu/3637600/Foreword_to_Self_Realization_in_Kashmir_Shaivism_The_Oral_Teachings_of_Swami_Lakshmanjoo

>>19599366
>>19599371
Fuck that's just the forward.
Hold up there may not even be a full copy online.

>>19599229
>>19599237
https://www.academia.edu/3795912/The_Transmission_of_Astrology_into_Abbasid_Islam_750-1258_CE_

>>19599353
This is sick

I've never heard of this Barry Long character before

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m fucking fw local chaote changes the lbrp because he doesn't want the crowd to think it's "weird and religious" but causally announces on the fb event that "we may be summoning a demon, so look him up."

>2017
>being this reactionary against the religion of your parents

I just read a post from the Mad Diviner where she says after a small argument with another occultist, he started accusing her of "astrally attacking" him and causing him to be depressed and his plants to wilt.

Does ridiculous, petty shit like this happen a lot in occult communities?

Am I best off just learning what I can from books and personal experience, hanging out in /omg/, and otherwise hanging out with normies and keeping my spiritual and magical practices to myself?

>>19599636
It's way too new agey for my tastes.

But I've never seen a breakdown of the implications of Draco that solid from someone just floundering before.

One wonders if he was familiar with the Black Brick, as much of this is tied to the "Tree as the stellar sphere" concept.

>>19599727
What do you make of the bigger piece this is a part of:
http://www.constellationsofwords.com/Constellations/Draco.html

>>19599396
This article is making me stressed out honestly because it makes me realize that I could academically pursue "historical astronomy" (aka astrology) for like... a living and that idea sort of unsettles me because it seems really ideal.

http://www.demetra-george.com/Transmission_Western_Astrology.pdf

>>19599779
Solid resource, used it for early DBoE research.

>>19599813
>tfw no PhD programs in astrotheology
Some dudes have made their bones in Archaeology, and in history w/r/t Inca.

I'll see you guys in the AM.

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>>19599703

Yes, that type of thing is common. ***ALL*** occult related communities degenerate in to radicalization, social jockeying, blind conformity, and toxicity. Learn what you can from books to and use experience/experimentation to develop your own methods/knowledge; Do not ask questions of a metaphysical nature of other men for we will only give you subjectivity painted as objectivity rather than objectivity; Let your own light illuminate your path rather than following a Will-O'-the-Wisp through the swamp we traverse. Mindfully observe and learn from those who you come across whether they be occultist or civilian, not their words, which oft ring hollow, but, their actions -- Their carriage.

Has anybody here actually done advanced operations like rising the kundalini fully or done magic while astral projecting?

>>19599829
It helps to have a frame of reference

I've personally found that other people's delusions are more obvious than my own

>>19599917
doing magick while astral projecting isn't really all that advanced

>>19599727
His death article is way better than your typical new age flotsam:
http://www.barrylong.org/statements/what-it-is-to-die.shtml

>Recurrence is not the same as the widespread eastern belief of personal reincarnation. Recurrence produces Self-knowledge which is not accessible to the mind that believes or remembers. Self-knowledge is a totally impersonal and vaster thing than reincarnation. All personal traits the person identifies with die with the body, whereas Self-knowledge persists as the guiding light in the unconscious behind the existential scene.

>>19599967
tfw can't even astral project

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What philosophies are good to understand the cosmos and the all?
I guess neoplatonism and hermeticism. Anymore?

>>19600199
>All personal traits the person identifies with die with the body, whereas Self-knowledge persists as the guiding light in the unconscious behind the existential scene.

I find this a contradiction.

Any reason for occult books to finish paragraphs/chapters with a hexagram?

>>19599296
>And that only comes from the experience

I'm so intuitive and smart I'll have a person mapped out in less than five minutes better than any birthchart - but having looked at them side to side I can affirm that they are legit, but to truly understand a chart you need to keep every >planet>house>sign in mind and compare them to each other to see how they overlap and scope the person from all interlacing points, to do so you have to know the symbolism of the archetypes, to get a feel for how the different planets and in their various positions work with each other.

> Tat. Tell me, O father: This Body which is made up of the Powers, is it at any time dissolved?
>Her. Hush, [son]! Speak not of things impossible, else wilt thou sin and thy Mind’s eye be quenched.
>The natural body which our sense perceives is far removed from this essential birth.
>The first must be dissolved, the last can never be; the first must die, the last death cannot touch.

What did he mean by this? I am a brainlet and a noob.

So, turns out reed grass seeds can be boiled to produce an entheogenic drink. Has anybody done this, and if so, how potent was it?

>>19599703
>Does ridiculous, petty shit like this happen a lot in occult communities?
Yes, unfortunately.

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>1. Is all will working magic?
>2. Why or why not?

>>19597459
Green Witchcraft I, II, and III as well as Grimoire for the Green Witch, all by Anne Moura.
I'm a big fan of her work.

>>19597767
the witches hammer is just a salem witch hunter bitching about how witches are to blame for his tiny penis.
not even being an ass, that's literally what it is.

>>19598697
>They mean "Sensitive information redacted".
https://hermetic.com/crowley/libers/lib242
amazing

>>19600930
i think it was written/compiled before salem but yeah you're right

>>19600926
can these be found online?

>>19597273
What reasons would a person have a caduceus tattoo other than occult related reasons? Are there any?

>>19598022
Spirit IS an ingredient

>>19598219
Who do you reckon the ""youngest" or most-recently-living Thelemite was who fully understood XIth, whether or not they had actually gotten that degree.

>>19601201
cause they think it looks cool?

>>19601229
Word. I saw this gorgeous young lady last night with a rather large caduceus on her forearm. I REALLY wanted to go up to her and start talking Hermetic Metaphysics, but I didn't want it to turn out that she had no idea what a caduceus actually was.

>>19598711
Little known fact, those three dots actually represent the symbol representing "pawn shop"

>>19597348
First one is pretty good ironic face Anon.

I just wanna clarify, LAHeSS is NOT me playing around with letters or something. Totally different person. Not that anyone asked or cares. That is all.

>>19597273
Haha dude I love the way you linked the previous thread.
>"You can fuck off to /pol/ too"
Lilly

>>19597273
Does anyone know if the Rosicrucians were actually guilty of any of the things they were accused of? I mean, they WERE Rosicrucians...

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*reads pastebin*

So who have you guys summoned lately?

>>19601315
what were they accused of?

>>19601340
Sodomy and different sexual acts as part of ritual, and probably also a host of nonsense

>>19601328

Astarte, and Yahweh.

>>19601374
>Yahweh
Lel
By the way, the other anon never responded to me, who said they had summoned Luciguge in a ogetia discussion, as to whether they were implying to have summoned him thru Lemegeton methods?

>>19601201
It's also a symbol of medicine?
They could be a doctor or a nurse or something.

>>19601401
Sure...I mean, I guess that's one way to go about it. My least favorite reason people give for getting a tattoo is "it looks cool." That's how my Mexican brother-in-law ended up getting a Yakuza tattoo.

>>19601405
>least favorite reason
Same here anon, same here.

>>19601405
>>19601408
Word. And i'm saying this as a person with a significant amount of ink on their skin

>>19601413
Oh yea, I'm no purist.
I don't mind tattoos, but god damn that shit is going to be there until that body rots, it should mean something.
I'd rather see Ötzi charcoal dots than one of those cheap meaningless little things that came out of one of those common tattoo books (or whatever those collections are called, the stupid little things that every roasty or chad gets).
To be more on topic to the thread, do you know of any data on the efficacy of those dot-ring charcoal tattoos that the copper/bronze aged peopled used?

>>19601435
None, unfortunately. Wish I did. What I'm interested in is whether Crowley had any (he doesn't in any pic I've seen) and who came up with the "Adeptus Tattoo" or whatever they call it that goes over the heart?

is there a way to download the entire library?

i am a novice in this field and wanna have it backed up just in case

>>19601435
I gotta say, I never looked or acted like what they call a "chad" nowadays, but I did have multiple girlfriends, frequently 2 or 3 at a time, and that sort of thing...does that make me a chad by association? I'm not sure I fully understand how this works.

>>19601438
>Adeptus Tattoo
I've not heard of that. I'll give the lore a looky-loo.
Do you know of any resource that clearly and precisely details the method for doing those charcoal tattoos? I mean, enough so that a person who knows basically nothing about the practical hands-on skills involved in tattoos could figure out what's being described?

>>19601452
>wanna have it backed up just in case
Save the link. It's gonna be a massive undertaking to download the whole thing. It's not going anywhere and people do have torrents, but the torrents are static and only "good" until the next update

>>19601461
A chad is a king of the physical who looks down upon the more emotional and introspective "beta".

>>19601461
I just mean the dude-bro stereotype with stupid 'tribal' tats or whatever. Chad might not be the right word for that.

>>19601465
I dunno. The only thing I can think of is modern acupuncture and that field may have something to say. I feel like you could combine acupuncture techniques with tattoo equipment and geomantic figure and construct a similar system, but that's just me speculating.

>>19601470
I see. Well I want you to know, I fucked Chad's girlfriend.

>>19601473
I hadn't even thought of that.
It's at least researching from a hypothetical standpoint.
Thanks anon.

>>19601471
Ha yeah. My favorite is when they can't identify the origin of the symbols in their own tattoos!

>>19601483
For sure

Hey /omg/ getta load o THIS guy:
>>19601498

>>19601374
Thanks for answering. Can I ask how long you've been practicing this? Have you gained any tangible benefits in your life or any kind of mental benefit?

>Do you believe in one Gnostic and Catholis Church?
>"I Do."
>Do you accept hymaneus Beta as its Sovereign Patriarch?
>"I-uhh...well, see, it's, uhh...I...Uhhmmm..."

https://pastebin.com/vcUGFerb

is the information posted here truth or cosplay?

>>19601774
>https://pastebin.com/vcUGFerb
Schizophrenia and NewAge cancer

>>19601778
GIve him a chance, at least he is on the good side.

>>19601784
>"My mother has fully activated clairvoyance and can visually perceive up to 12D with her eyes closed"

No.

>>19601799
>He doesn't perceive the universe in glorious HD 12D

>>19601824
Unfortunately :'-(

>She was a victim of Satanic Ritual Abuse as a child, and witnessed countless abuse and murder of children in ritualistic settings. This was done by a local group of ‘satanists’ or black magicians, controlled by demonic entities, and was connected to certain local power structures. I say with certainty that these groups exist worldwide and go to the highest levels of authority in Government, Military, Church.

She comes from a religious background and has always understood the truth in the message Jesus, despite dogma attached by the Church. I was raised in this environment, so I understand this perspective as well. Religion has twisted the truth of the original teachings of Jesus (Oneness) and caused much superstition and fear. Much of Religion is concealed dark ritual masquerading as truth. The Old Testament is especially deceptive, Lucifer and other negative ETs are the various angry and jealous gods of those stories. The God that Jesus spoke of is God-Source, who we can never be separate from. Concepts of hell and sin are to create fear and mind-control.

I was also an atheist/agnostic for many years of my life, so I understand how many people might approach this information from different sides. I was awakened to the truth that God is Love, and Source of All, not a personification or anthropromorphized individual as has been portrayed. There are individual ‘creator beings’ which assist in cosmic creation, but this is a very big subject.

Why doews everyone who ever claims SRA seem to have multiple mental illnesses and is a super Jesus freak? It's almost...almost like the only common thread among these accusations is the nature of the self- proclaimed victims.

>>19598219
What is, in your opinion, the best source for reference to the XIth, outside of the degree papers themselves?

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Im trying to summon satan at a crossroads near my house. I tried to just go there at midnight and pray, but that didnt work. Any suggestions?

>>19601905
Not sure that's a thing. try the Grand Grimmoire, that's the closest thing I know of to what you're trying to do.

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>>19601905
>streetlights

>>19601837
>Why doews everyone who ever claims SRA seem to have multiple mental illnesses and is a super Jesus freak? It's almost...almost like the only common thread among these accusations is the nature of the self- proclaimed victims.
I mean we proved the vast majority of that panic to be empirically false in the late 80's but that doesn't stop the Pizzagaters from clinging to 'em.

>>19601907
Ok I will give this a try. Thanks for the advice

>>19601765
Well, unfortunately he IS the head of the EGC.

The good news is there are a dozen other GC outfits within and beyond Martinism.

>>19601939
But we know Crowley was murdering upwards of 150 children a year, so of course there was some basis for it ;-)

>>19601948
Oh, I know. That's just an awfully shitty thing to "accept"

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>>19601950
We also all know the footnotes in that particular chapter, where it shows his diaries CLEARLY indicate he was speaking on having cheeky wanks.

Clearly, though, that information is offensive to your agenda.

>>19601957
>that information is offensive to your agenda.
>"your agenda"
Which is sarcastically claiming Crowley has the highest body count of all time, three times over?

>>19601969
>sarcastically
Unfortunately in an age of irony poisoned millennialism, a smiley face rarely cuts it for denotation.

>>19601973
Ha I suppose so. So, was he referring to masturbation for the fun of it? Or 150 incidents of VIIth type work?

Anyone have some recommended reading on Thelema, besides things like The Book of the Law, obviously.

>>19601980
All the Holy Books, for one.

>>19601978
Probably both given the regularity.

>>19601980
see
>>19601988
The Black Brick.
Magick in Theory and Practice.
Magick Without Tears.
AHA.
Commentaries on L, published or not.
For basic learning.

Libri O and E and Israfel for basic practice.

>>19601988
>>19602010
Thanks.

Does the Cultus Sabbatai have any relationship with the reptilians that Icke talks about? Why would people want to contact them?

>>19602010
Why is the rose inverted in Crowley's unicursal hexagram? Someone claimed at one point that it was a printing error, but I don't see how a single printing error could account for it.

>>19602070
*In the book of Thoth deck

>>19602070
>rose
Because it's not a rose, it's a peyote button.

>>19602057
Maybe :^)

>>19602057
no the cultus sabbati is some gay larpers from england
icke shit isnt real

>>19602106
Oh? How come it's upright sometimes, and other times inverted? Is the symbolism essentially that of the rose, though? It looks awfully similar to the rose of the rose cross, and it has the 5 'petals' which is not particularly characteristic of peyote.

>>19602106
>>19602106
>Because it's not a rose, it's a peyote button.
I'm not sure if I'm missing something here, but how does that explain its positioning? Like, if it were a rose it would be upright, but since it's a peyote button it's inverted? Is this some kind of symbolism thing that's flying o'er my head?

I'm looking for a charm that would ensure a successful hunt, anyone know of one?

>>19597273
i have many emotional blocks that wont let me truly feel the moment when i am with the girl i like, is there any book/practice that could help me?
i assume some kind of yoga but i would like a recommendation if possible

>>19602223
Are you certain of your marksmanship, and just want to ensure that you will actually have an opportunity to kill something?

>>19602106
>Because it's not a rose, it's a peyote button.

Alright, at what point does drug use somehow become occult and spiritual?

You seem to knock drug use for enlightenment so at what point does it become a worthwhile endeavor? With ritual? Having the heritage for it? Doing it the traditional way?

>>19602229
Hathayoga I guess. Maybe start doing LBRP twice a day. That should help, if it's a spiritual type thing. Especially in addition to the yoga.

>>19602260
Whoah. How did we go from symbolism to this? How did you arrive at the conclusion that Crowley included it in order to glorify it as a spiritual substitute for actual praxes? Because THAT's what Ape is opposed to, if my understanding is correct.

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>>19602057
>reptilians

>>19602267
My point is Crowley used drugs in some form of spiritual practice. Ape comes across as being opposed to drug use for spiritual practice but is willing to admit it can be used. So what qualifies drug use into true occult practice?
Peyote has a very long standing practice.

>>19602281
Like I said, there is a difference between using drugs in combination with ritual, yoga, etc. and thinking you are achieving samadhi when in reality you're just tripping your balls off. Crowley knew where that line was, if we are to go by his diaries. New Agers and 4chan memers such as yourself don't seem to understand, as evidenced by your second questioning after I laid it all out.

>>19602252
Exactly this, more for stalking my prey and finding it/ it finding me.

>>19602289
>Crowley knew where that line was, if we are to go by his diaries.

Quotes please.

How can you discount other people's experiences on drugs just by saying 'hurr durr drugs'? You haven't been there. I doubt you've done ibogaine. You don't know what people have experienced. You're just being a judgmental prick. Big surprise, who would've known in the occult you'd find a bunch of pretentious dicks. And if you think that drug use cannot lead to visionary and liminal experiences you are sorely mistaken. Especially if it happens long after the drug use during sober times.

>>19601250

She was probably a doctor or nurse or something

>>19602351
>You're just being a judgmental prick
That's a lovely strawman you've constructed. I think you are just further illustrating Ape's point, not only about the dangers of believing you are achieving samadhi every time you trip, but what kind of people use drugs as a substitute for work, or what kind of person one can become from doing so, at the very least.

>>19602351
OK. I'll play. Post your journal from one or a few experiences where you feel you induced samadhi by drugs alone.

>>19602351
>>19602360
Also, I don't think ANYone ever said you *can't ever possibly* achieve samadhi by ;just' tripping, just that it's incredibly rare, most people who claim to have probably only reached low level dhyana at most, and that it's not good to rely on drugs as a substitute for work. And if you have a problem with any of these, then maybe you should pause and reflect.

>>19602371
Furthermore, many people who claim to have achieved samadhi while on drugs have never even achieved it without taking mind-altering substances, so they don't even have a baseline reference. It's hard to take the claim of drug-induced samadhi seriously when someone has literally no point of reference.

>>19602376
Even more, THIS is why people who have experienced samadhi are very skeptical about people who claim they achieved it thru drugs alone. ESPECIALLY considering how it seems like about 90% of people believe this, at MINIMUM, the first time they try psychedelics. Some continue in the illusion indefinitely.

>>19602381
what about smoking weed? its pretty good for meditation and visualization

>>19602360
>not only about the dangers of believing you are achieving samadhi every time you trip

At no point in my life have I ever claimed samadhi on every single trip. It is incredibly rare to experience samadhi while tripping but I have on multiple occasions experienced samadhi in the following weeks after drug use.

>>19602381
>THIS is why people who have experienced samadhi are very skeptical about people who claim they achieved it thru drugs alone.

If you think there is a 'you', if you think there is 'drugs', if you think it is a 'trip' it is not samadhi.

Opinions on Eshelman and Shoemaker lineages?

>>19602402
I don't understand what's so difficult here. this isn't rocket surgery, anon.

>>19602267
>How did you arrive at the conclusion that Crowley included it in order to glorify it as a spiritual substitute for actual praxes?
>>>19602289
>Like I said, there is a difference between using drugs in combination with ritual, yoga, etc. and thinking you are achieving samadhi when in reality you're just tripping your balls off

>>19602360
>what kind of people use drugs as a substitute for work(...)
>>19602371
>Also, I don't think ANYone ever said you *can't ever possibly* achieve samadhi by ;just' tripping, just that it's incredibly rare, most people who claim to have probably only reached low level dhyana at most, and that it's not good to rely on drugs as a substitute for work.
How many different times and various ways must I say it before it becomes comprehensible?

>>19602407
>"If you think there is a 'you', if you think there is 'drugs', if you think it is a 'trip' it is not samadhi."

>>19602363
>Post your journal from one or a few experiences where you feel you induced samadhi by drugs alone.

>>19602407
If you're going to say anything more on the subject, please do this: >>19602418
first because you sound like you're just regurgitating shit you've read and heard and I'm kinda tired of this circular stuff.

>>19599127
Haven't read it so wouldn't know, wizard a history is good tho.

>>19599130
Why don't you try posting a kink or book instead, you know actually try and be useful?

>>19599703
I recall reading that Dion Fortune got into a similar magical rivalry along with a few others from that period.

>>19602422
>first because you sound like you're just regurgitating shit you've read and heard and I'm kinda tired of this circular stuff.

No thanks. I know my experiences. I don't share them. That diminishes them largely. 4chan is not the place for discussing these things that are largely undiscussable and indescribable.

>>19601973
The smiley face clearly indicates that he was being funny/cheeky and you age bashing the youngestsers with buzzwords means nothing.

Millenials don't get humor?

OK grandpa..

>>19602223
There is a story in wizard a history about a guy who made a pact with the devil for a charm to aid hunting but he didn't complete the pact so it didn't work.

>>19602450
> I don't share them
Nope, just discuss them ceaselessly on Himalayan Yak Milking VBulletins.
>That diminishes them largely. 4chan is not the place for discussing these things that are largely undiscussable and indescribable.
Bottom Jizzle.

>>19602461
I actually got his point and thought it made sense, because when I put myself in his shoes as much as is possible, I realized I wouldn't have known how to take my comment, either.

>>19602450
>>19602487
What's more, I think it's interesting, not only how you responded, but that you didn't respond at all until prompted a second time one the same matter. And for something you seem so passionate about, it seems rather odd- considering you managed to respond to every single other post.

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Can anyone identify the groups

>>19602351
Are you supposed the kind of person who's attracted to "enlightenment" are preachy shitheads who latch onto any reason to feel above others?

>>19602106
>maybe
How come sometimes you'll give these long replies and other times just give a one word answer. Is it cause the subject doesn't interest you? Or because you don't know enough about it to answer it? Or because you've answered it so many times you can't be bothered to write up a long reply?

>>19602530
Are you supposed to sentence?

>>19602492
So you thought you'd join in on his millennial bashing huh? He adds smiley faces to his own humorous comments but when someone does the same he doesn't get it. Seems forced to me. He must have realized it was a joke but just wanted an excuse to bash (much like me, I hear you say).

Just annoys me when he jokes and kids in the thread but can't or won't take it from others.

>>19602550
>So you thought you'd join in on his millennial bashing
I'm not certain where I did that. Can you please point it out to me.

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How do familiar work?

What Demon should I summon to cause a break-up?

>>19602740
1. Read "Cunning Folk and Familiar Spirits."
2. Read more "practical" works, with a grain of salt, using what you've learned.
3. ???
4. PROFIT!

Years ago, I was into Asatru, but then I (1.) had a kind of crisis of faith and (2.) was put off from much of the community by the huge "white nationalist heathen" presence.

I spent a while not believing in much of anything, but at some point came across Grant Morrison's work, read a bunch of his comics, did a few sigils with pretty good effects. Didn't do much of anything for a while.

Then about a year ago, the depression that I'd had for years kind of came to a head, while I was reading the Principia Discordia for shits and giggles, and I decided to say a prayer to Eris for help, as much because the Principia said not to as anything else. And the thing is, I had a moment like an hour later where something in my brain just switched and, while I wasn't 100% better, I've been able to make progress since, and I couldn't before. It was also after this point that I worked up the courage to start seeing a therapist, and that helped quite a bit as well.

I've been praying to Eris pretty often, though not all that consistently, ever since, as well as saying a quick "Hail Eris" to myself when I see a 13 or a 23, and trying to take things a bit less seriously and enjoy myself more.

About a week ago I stumble across a page on traditional witchcraft, and end up reading a page discussing hedge witchery/hedgecraft. I read a book on the subject, and am about to start another. I'm thinking next I'll read a book on Seidr, and soon I'll try it (I know it's supposed to be "womanly" and shameful for men to do it, but whatever, Odin did it).

So today, I'm listening to music and suddenly I start having images in my mind of (what I recognize as) some of the Aesir. And I feel like I pushed them away and rejected them, and I want to reconnect with them, but also the whole "reconstructionist pagan" bit feels just as contrived and bullshitty as neopaganism.

I want to honor the Norse gods. But I don't want to stop praying to Eris or do rituals that mean nothing to me.

Advice? Overall.

>>19602848
Summon the demon of getting over it. I expect you'll be able to look him up in your grimoire of choice.

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Ape did you hear about the 'sceptic' podcast that did a mini investigation of the OTO?
http://ohnopodcast.com/investigations/2013/8/1/ross-and-carrie-go-oto-part-1-nudity-and-dark-rituals-edition
I enjoyed listening to it. It's nice to hear normies that aren't freaked out by the gnostic mass.

>>19602252
Asking again, anyone know of a charm to aid in hunting, more for stalking and finding prey rather then marksmanship.

>>19602473
Know the name of that story?

>>19603200
Contact Artemis.

>>19602533
I think his answer was clear enough.

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Hey /x/, what should I be reading for information/analysis on Orphism? The library doesn't seem to have anything about it specifically. Unless I'm just fucking retarded, which would honestly be par for the course.

>>19603785
Algis Uzdavinys

>cant stop thinking about the gym receptionist
>literally dream about her

how do I make her fall in love with me? she's good a top tier ass lads, made for sitting on my face
pls help

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>>19604438
try asking if you to can make things "Work out"

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>>19597273
93 11 23 31 418

Haha, sup guys, just dropping some knowledge in here, everything you call magick, all the tons of volumes of "knowledge" comes down to basic self-delusion and self hypnosis.
I don't just mean one form of it, I mean all forms. Magick isn't real in the physical world. It's just for nutters that want something to do. There is no end game, there are no benefits. All the "search for the greater good" and "my HGA" is simply self improvement. Go join some religious sect instead. It's the same exact nonsense.

Have fun with your curses and your HIGHER PURPOSE. Dorks.

How to charge a sigil with negative energy fast.

Accoding to yoga and spiritual theory, the tips of your fingers are always discharging the energy of your body that no longer is wanted inside it. It's a constant cycle of energy, so basically, the energy that has absorbed bad shit and needs to go, goes away from the tip of your fingers.

Therefore, when you make a sigil, you can charge it quickly albeit negatively, by putting the tips of your two index fingers against the sigil, as if you were double pointing it.

Now now, apparently, astral fingers work, so if you visualize or tactile image your fingers on top of a sigil, it will work too, this would be useful in case of an astral or imaginary sigil or in the case of a computer generated sigil.

What do you think? It's cheap negatively charged energy.

>>19604708
>He thinks there is such a thing as negative energy.

Motherpeace is hiring.

>>19604720
There is, that's why it's cycled, its a bit like breathing, the parts that you do not want, get expelled out.

>>19604724
No sir.

>>19604720
The universe is literally about 73% dark energy you dildo.

>>19604438

Tried and true honey jar. Ain't no need for fancy bullshit when the old tricks still work. Make sure you don't stank/spill your sketti, and chat the bitch up. Instead of talking to pussy like you want inside its guts, talk to it like you already been in its guts, breh.

>>19604708
The tips of the fingers must be together when you are doing it, and your mind must be empty of thought for best results.

If you know how to rid your system of negative energy and you're attuned to feeling energies, you can test it in yourself, just place dem fingers in a chakra and void your mind of thought, watch it be filled with shit you don't want.

>>19604728
>"Dark" energy
LOL

>>19604742
You're fucking stupid.

>>19604738
>Void your mind of thought
Look it's baby's first magick trick.

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>>19604742

>>19604747
>hurrr, I was told to meditate to prepare for magick, so in a case of negative energy natural excretion from the body I was surely assumed to void my mind.

>Remember asking for help here
>Everyone said the best thing you can do for magick practice
>Is meditate
>Just meditate for hours each day
>Literally sit/lay/whatever still and breathe while thinking about nothing
>This will surely unlock the secrets of the universe
LOL.

>>19604759
You know, meditation has been proven by science to enhance the mind, all you're being told is to enhance your mind and spirit.

Fedoras are a special kind of retarded.

>>19604765
Please, enlighten me, oh great one.
How does thinking about nothing, enhance your magical skill? Go ahead, I'm waiting.

>>19604767
Meditation is thinking about nothing WHILE focusing your attention on a meditation object.

Alone doing this enhances mental clarity and your powers of concentration, which will be used to make magical operations.

Also if your focus of attention has any spiritual value, like for instance, your ajna chakra, you will be filled too with spiritual energy.

>>19604767
Only part of your consciousness constitutes your immediate awareness, by calming the ripples in the pond to say, the water becomes transparent. The rest of your consciousness fills in and is able to sort and compute in ways you're not normally using your brain while awake. Extended use creates a more whole and cooperative mind. If you want to be healthy, you ought not only to explore the external world but your internal as well.

>>19604770
Mantra is only one method of meditation, just letting go and not focusing on anything particular can be just as fruitful depending on what works for you personally.

>>19604779
I didn't say mantra, I said meditation object.
It can be a mantra, it can be your breath, it can be a chakra, it can be a projected image in your mind...

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What does this figure represent? I know it's supposed to be philosopher stone, but what's the meaning behind it's geometry?

>>19604839
It doesn't matter. It means whatever you want it to mean. Magick isn't real.
A CIRCLE has no points. a TRIANGLE has THREE!!! A square has FOUR! and then there is ANOTHER CIRCLE!!!!

whoaaaaaaaaaaa

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>>19604913
Shills don't deserve human rights.

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Anyone read this? It has good meditation techniques.

>>19605053

Nine syllable meditation is pretty great. Like getting energetically spitroasted by archangels.

>>19604913
why would you even come to this board anyway?

>>19604767
Mindfulness meditation involves letting thoughts come, observing them, and letting them go and returning your thoughts to your point of focus (often the experience of breathing).

This is a useful skill for everyday life, because it can allow you to observe your own thought patterns rather than getting caught up in them and the emotions they cause. This can help you think your way out of depressive mood swings, for example.

It also helps you realize that your thoughts are tools, things that you use to reach other ends, and not the entirety of what you are, which is valuable in understanding what it is that you really want.

Finally, it lets you clear your mind of distractions and focus on the task at hand, which is valuable for both magical and mundane things.

That's just the kind of meditation I do. There are others, and I'm sure that some do and some do not have anything to do with getting better at magic.

>>19605053
hate break it to you dude Ashida Kim is bs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WvgT-R5g1g

>>19605194
There are books in Ape's library that talk about contacting spirits from Atlantis. What's your point?

Yeah, ninjas are bullshit. The meditation techniques are still valuable.

>>19605194

>bs can't be used for magical purposes even if you understand the mechanics of magic

Son, it's like you don't even fully grasp the Chaos Framework. A rose by any other name is a rose. You can junction shit together to make anything work if you're a *competent* wizard, not just an armchair sage.

>>19605211
>You can junction shit together to make anything work

Jajajajajaja!!11!!!!

Oh lord...

>>19604759
>while thinking about nothing
~t. has no clue how to do yoga

>>19605477
What is in your opinion the best method of meditation?

>>19605477
Hey, Ape. You ever done Seidr or any other form of traveling the spirit realm? Any advice on the matter?

>>19605504
Hathayoga, Shiva Samhita, Rajayoga.

>>19605541
>Seidr
From my experience you can PROBABLY do that without travelling to Elphame. Knots and weaves of Fate get anchored to geolocations and you can screw with them where the the barriers are thin.

My advice for that in particular generally just boils down to "Fey are dicks. Beware."

>>19597273
I want to develop the ability to bend the will of some people, in order to acquire currency. Is Paimon a good choice for it?

https://youtu.be/9cty6GjiAu4

So that CS thread finally got a reply.

Shanti Oates who wrote that article refuting Howard on the Clan of Tubal Cain, is writing a book with actual citations and research on the timeline of the Clan as a response to folks like me going "Wait but where's your research, your article just says things that anyone who wasn't intimately involved can't verify".

Keep your eyes peeled around the usual publishing houses.

>>19605588

Yes. Pieman is a good choice for mindslaving bitches.

>>19605552
Thanks. I'll be careful. I think fey are exactly who I need to get in touch with, though. Evidently a familiar spirit (generally a faerie or spirit of the dead, though the line was often blurry) is a large part of how cunning folk learned their craft.

>>19605666
It's all fun and games until a Landvættir replaced your firstborn with a doppelganger.

>>19604573
kek

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>>19605676

>>19605676
We'll now first born can't die from god using his first born spell. You should be more thankful for this loop hole can't kill first born body if second born is living in it. Can't kill second born body because it is second born body your welcome.

>>19605676

Crushing fae puss and fucking with noobs is worth that risk.

>>19605676
I appreciate the words of caution.

>>19605761 here. Also no worries, I never get anything right the first time anyway.

>>19605737
You're a big guy

Lol @ the guy from three/four days ago claiming that the Temple library was his.

>>19605791
I must have missed it. Was it on another thread?

i really like to meditate in nature it makes me feel refreshed and energized

can i do something to give back? i feel like i'm only taking, maybe water some trees or something?

Is there any value in Brahmacharya? When I go at least a week without fapping, I feel godly, so perhaps there is something to this.

Crowleycucks need not respond.

>>19606318

Flogging the bishop depletes qi. Fucking a wimmin only slightly depletes it since you're mostly exchanging qi through your funbits.

Fucking (to orgasm) = Okay
Fucking (without orgasm) = Best
Fapping (to orgasm) = Not Okay
Fapping (without orgasm) = Okay

>>19606333
Thank you. That was very scientific.

>>19605552
is the shiva sanhita a good start? dont see another hathayoga book in the libray

https://twitter.com/pookleblinky/status/909512124241780736

>>19606643
>blowing on nintendo cartriges

MAN, THOSE WERE THE TIMES

>>19606651
>dendyfag talking about nintendo carts
You could be 12 for what that's worth

>>19606660
I could also be 50.

Still, there were times before. Now there's no times.

>>19606683
You're like 24 accounting for the prenatal diet of vodka postnatal diet of vodka and memes.

>>19606683
>I could also be 50.
No. Fifty is me.

i was reading some goetia about pacts, im really interested in make contact with higher spirits. Anyone willing to help me?

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Well now I gotta buy a new copy of Scarlet Gospels.

>>19607675
What's dat?

>>19607675
Instead of wasting time on crap like that, how about you expand your Vaishanava folder.

>>19607962
>Vaishanava
Zozzle.

>>19607884
Clive's new(ish) Hellraiser novel in limited edition signed by Doug Bradley and Clive himself, super limited edition, going for about a grand a pop. Two left this morning, I imagine they're gone already.

>>19607978
Hmmmmmm, pin-ape. Ape of pin. The pin of thoth.

Imagine what pounding hundreds of nails into your face could do for your wizard rep. The young-uns would form a line to your front door with precious loosh in hand ready to make sacrament.

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>>19608191
Kirsty=Best Pinhead.

>>19608292
I am loving the shading on that line art, really good illustration. Have not checked up on the Hellraiser franchise in some time.

>>19607675
Some great package design too! No doubt, that is going to be worth some money in comic book land in the coming years.

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>>19608347
>Have not checked up on the Hellraiser franchise in some time.
She wasn't The Flayed One for long....abdicated to Henry.

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>>19608404
>>19608347
tl;dr
Elliot splits off from the spirit of the Flayed One, uses his gained knowledge to attempt to brute force into Quiddity because he's a cunt.

>>19608404
>>19608444
Ok, I am sold. Very good stuff.

>>19607675
Grabbing two copies of this if I can still find it.

>>19608444
Cant even make a crack about you pounding nails into your face without you getting doubles and making me spend cash.

FFS, what kind of fez wearing simian lodge magic is that anyway.

>>19608515
Warning; it's VERY clear that Scarlet Gospels was HEAVILY edited and redacted. At least a quarter of the book is gone, maybe more, considering what Clive promised (more LeMarchand history, in exile at a French African prison camp, the recovery/placement of the Graal in a Cornwall tin mine, Christ at Golgotha) and what's actually there (A taxonomy of Hell, more action, Pinhead's death).

I think much of this is because of how much of the original Scarlet got covered in the comics, and therefore needed cut out of the novel. The comics and novel exist in different timeline tracks (Clive has always said that each novel he writes, even sequels, are both interconnected, but in their own self contained timelines).

how's the larping going?
cast any lightning bolts yet?

>>19608580
But that's a level three spell and I spent my slot on Slow because damage spells are trash.

>>19608580
>cast any lightning bolts yet?
just the one in your ass...

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>>19608624
not that anon, Butt why?

322nd post! My favorite number :3

which is superior, krishnamurtis :
>enlightenment is a meme, spiritual teachers are deluded stuck-up hypocrite fucks, just live like an animal and fuck lmao

or :

>some bald british guy and a russian lesbian grandma say you should worship their specific rehash of a dead polytheistic religion because qabbalah ancient secrets triangles and 23 or whatever

now obviously i've reduced both options to absurdity, but i'd really like to know what you guys think about these two choices, and U.G. and his "teachings" in general

surprised my thread lasted this long.

See Selah, my teaching career came along just fine in the end


:)

>>19609805
Both kinda miss the point, as there's a third option: live your life.

The key to spirituality (I hate that word, let's put it as "personal philosophy"), at least for me, is that it's there to support one's earthly endeavors.

There's very little that spirituality can accomplish in bringing about success or financial security - and while I appreciate the efforts of people who choose that path, I do believe they're in vain.

At the end of the day, certain models go too far, and in many ways I feel people go too far in that direction, instead of doing something useful.