Everything you need to know about Magic

what about the magic between that of man and a non-demon? Is that still DARK?

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>>19535565
>Magic
Show me some magic tricks anon

>>19535595
Humans can't perform Magic, only by the aid of demons they can.

>>19535621
You need to believe; I won't do Magic because it'll damn my soul forever.

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>>19535626
did you know magic with C is street magic Mr. magician ?

>>19535639
Magic, Magick or any name you want, it is the same thing

>>19535565
Questions

Where is the demon? (Where does it exist "physically"?)
How does it "send" these powers to the man?
Is religion necessary in any way?

>>19535626
>You need to believe; I won't do Magic because it'll damn my soul forever.
What do you mean, "damn your soul"?

>>19535565
you don't know shit about anything, stop fucking confusing people

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>>19535648
No it isn't you sperg, your hollywood bullshit isn't magick
>>19535669
This.

Philippians 4:8
Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is fair, whatever is pure, whatever is acceptable, whatever is commendable, if there is anything of excellence and if there is anything praiseworthy—keep thinking about these things.

We become master of discerning good from Evil by studying the good, not evil.

>>19535665
OP means like circulating karma.
He does "magi" to you, "magi" shall return to him.

>>19535665
1- Demons are the children of Satan, this is the reason why they are powerful but there is way to defeat them. They live in every place where humans don't ( seas, deserts, forests, abandoned places etc) yet they have an oath to not physically appear to humans and they can't break it.

2- The demon and the human for a contract, the man will do something evil ( sacrifice an animal, don't clean your body, destroy an holy book or place etc ) and in return they use they power to fulfill the human's wish, the type and shape of this power is unknown but you can feel it

3- Yes it is, but remember that there is only one true religion and demons are tricky

4- when you make deal for the demon, you are 100% going to hell

>>19535669
Please be a good lad and give something true and useful then

As a child we fear demons. As adults we look in the mirror and see them. Magic exists within you anon.

>>19535675
Magic won't give you superpowers, if you believe this you are an idiot

>>19535694
Sometimes evil seems to us good, be careful

>>19535711
They exist anon, not in the stereotype way though

Movies like LOTR and The Ring refer to a ring with occult power and theyre supposed to be allegories on reality. What is the ring ?

>>19535727

Also the opera Der Ring by Wagner. That song by Johnny Cash "Ring of fire". It's often mentioned.

>>19535727
Rings are powerful tools in Magic because they are personal and symbolic

demons love metals like gold and silver, this is way they love rings.

>>19535725
This is true until you reach enlightenment. Choose the path of obedience or the path of ego. Eventually you will find out that it is all the same. We are all the same energy intertwined in the web of existence. You are god, just as you are a demon. As is your neighbor, who must then be you.

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>>19535712
When did I say that spergo ?

>>19535565
All bullshit, but I'm sure you believe you have real information.

Magic is real.
Magic does not come from a higher plane.
It is not evil or good, it is merely power.
The energies present in this universe are infinite in form and variety.
Discarnate intelligence is the most common form of life in the cosmos.
The disembodied ones can be communicated with.
There is a divine creator; it is nothing like what is conceived of in any human religion.
The path of wisdom is the same as the path of magic.
What you do with magic, magic also does with you.
Demons are not as you imagine; these are predatory discarnate intelligences, and the strong-willed may overcome them.
Magic has many types but they are:
1. Pattern manipulation
2. Perception manipulation
3. "Spiritual" entreaty
4. Secret communication
5. Fortune enhancement (luck manipulation)

So my question is, why do you think you know magic, when you explained it completely incorrectly? Who taught you these fictions?

t. Working Wizard

>>19535743
No, I am not a God nor a demon, I am human

when you die, the overlay in your eyes is removed and you can see demons

enlightenment IS when you enter heaven, there we can see God

>>19535754
A-anon. Did the path of magic 'craved' by anti-christ?

>>19535754

>Magic is real.

Never said it isn't

>Magic does not come from a higher plane.

I said Magic comes from demons who live here in Earth so ...

>It is not evil or good, it is merely power

It is evil because the demon would do Magic only when you do an evil act

>The energies present in this universe are infinite in form and variety.

We can never know so I don't know

>The disembodied ones can be communicated with

No you can't, they exist but can not be reached

>There is a divine creator; it is nothing like what is conceived of in any human religion

Agree, we just don't agree who he is

>The path of wisdom is the same as the path of magic.
Wisdom comes from God, not demons
>What you do with magic, magic also does with you.

Agree

>Demons are not as you imagine; these are predatory discarnate intelligences, and the strong-willed may overcome them.

They are the same as us but with power, they have body, mind, will, but as well as we they can be defeated
>Magic has many types but they are

Not exactly but you are close; and Magic can't change Fate

>So my question is, why do you think you know magic, when you explained it completely incorrectly? Who taught you these fictions?

Why you don't think you are the incorrect one here?

When I kill women God rewards me with colored lights in my head.

>>19535833
Really bro?

>>19535781
Your arguments are literally nuh uh because I said this. Are you autistic by any chance?

>>19535754
I believe you. What are some good books to start with?

>>19535565
Lawofone.info
Has positive magic and exercises, like seeing the creator in everyone, the self, and everything (since all is one) or protective things with salt, water and garlic.
>http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?q=Salt

>"I can do magic!"
>"Look at all these things I know about magic!"
>"No, I cant do magic. It says it on the rules. I know I can do it tho. No, ive never done it."
>"No, you cant see it."
is your girlfriend from Canada, too?

>>19535565
>>Magic is an agreement between a man and a demon

No, go away christian, your religion is wrong.

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>>19536447
It will never be me.

What does magick grant you?

>>19535565
You don't know shit about shit.
Next time learn a bit before spouting bullshit. Depending on tradition it isn't a way to contact demon but unite with god and everything in between too. Most often however is to increase spiritual authority, become aware of ne's soul and then able to use it to affect the reality in accordance with one's will. In fact most traditions don't deal with any external entities, including demons at all and many of those which do consider demons, angels and whatnot merely a mental constructs when aspirant judges their own morality and explores their own psyche.

>>19536447
Not him but we literally have fucking occult and magic generals here with links to whole library of works, including beginner ones. Two most famous works seem to be Initiation into Hermeticism by Bardon (hated on /omg/) and Isreal Regardie's One Year Manual.

>>19536609
Revenge, love, power etc but with your soul as price?

>>19535754
>oh you
this is the truth but it's obscured by games and allegory
tell me more, I'm thirsty today

>>19535833
>>19535845
>magic detection
psychopaths out, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>>/pol/

>>19536772
Thanks I've heard of those and will look into them. I wanted to ask him specifically though because those threads are inundated with BS that will just be a waste of time, and he seems to have a clue about magick that actually works.

>>19535565
>Magic
So, are you zoroastrian or greek?

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>>19535565
>waaah magic is evil
I'll bet you haven't even studied it.

>>19536984
Muslim

>>19536419
>All bullshit, but I'm sure you believe you have real information.
Exactly the same argument given to him.

>>19535565
Well if you define magic that way of course it's dark. Just remember that's not what most people mean when they say magic.

>>19535707
What is the problem about go to hell, there you can do more magick than ever

>>19537000
Heretic

the problem with hell is that it is entirely subjective, the people I would put in hell are not the people you would put in hell. Knowing this, it completely destroys the concept because it's completely arbitrary and could change on a whim, not exactly horrifying

>>19537162
I forgot to mention that it takes advantage of dumbfucks who make the mistake of typical mind fallacy all day every day

>>19535707
Are you retarded? Where do you think demons get their power? Humans are actually more powerful than demons, demons simply USE the energy/power of humans to perform feats/tricks that humans don't know how to do.

Humans are powered by source energy, we have a direct connection to "God" or the All That Is, the Universe, etc, energy flows through us. Humans have the ability to direct that energy however they see fit, and some of those ways are magical.

The power of focus, intention, creativity, thought projection, etc, can all be honed to magical levels in humans.

So how exactly is all magic dark? If you're making contracts with entities and demons, performing sacrifices, dark rituals and blood magic, then yeah, that's dark, but if you're simply using the power between source/God, the Universe/nature, and yourself, it's not dark.

>>19535565
>not working with the magick of the holy spirit to forward the Lord's aims
It's like you're not even trying to not be a sinner.

>>19535737
Uh, or metals are natural conductors of energy and magnetic fields, thus potentiating the magnetic field/aura of the wielder. You don't have an understanding of the basics and you think you can tell people what's up in here?

It's not all about "muh demons". People who spout off about magic and power being attributable to only demons has a lack of understanding of the natural and inherent laws of the Universe.

What is the diffrence to magic and miracles?

If a hindu God does a mirical is it magic?
If Yahova does miracles is that magic?
If Zeus does miracles is that magic?
If a spirit does a miracles is it magic?

>>19536994
>Implying Constantine isn't pure evil

Christian propaganda.

Neo-Jews are upset that their religion is dying.

>>19537418
Just because he's a prick doesn't mean he's evil.
>>19537357
Anthropologically speaking, it's all magic.

>>19537477
There's a trail of corpses in his wake says otherwise.

>>19537526
Everyone has the right to pick another path, you need only want for it and it becomes possible. Unhappiness is a state of mind you can choose to be happy if you want to. Their is always something you are good at you just need to sit and think about it for a while then do that. Just make sure it's not hurting people just teach them to be strong.

>>19537418
Constantine is anything but! You faceless apparition

>>19537694
See: >>19537526

>>19537813
you'll never have true harmony, death must be administered to the select few

>>19535595
what the fuck do you a think a non-demon is ? a demon lying to you into thinking he's not a demon ?

>>19535565

Congratulations! I never thought I'd see a worse magic thread than the magusitis support group in /omg/, but you've really come through, Anon!

>>19537827
N-no plz kindly escort yourself out.

What if I use magic for a good cause? Like protecting people?

>>19535565
>In order to defeat the enemy, you must first know the enemy

I suppose you would know a lot about magick then. What is the very first ritual most initiates learn?