Is Trump being president proof that the illuminati don't exist?

>>19508693
Trump built the time machine before the illumnati could stop him

>>19508693
It's proof memetics are Real.
Illuminati aren't into politics btw

>>19508700
Jared Kushner is a parasitic being that hitched a ride on the time machine and is sucking the spirit of humanity from Trump. Trump can't directly attack him without risking the very time that we live in.

I would say yes but the fact that he's doing jackshit means the Illuminati does exist.

trump victory is part of the plan

>>19508785
This. Trump is on it 100%.

>>19508693
Nope

>>19508693
>is the rich businessman wallstreet president with his jewish masters and banking insider cabinet proof the illuminati don't exist
yeah sure

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIOpbZSyfoE
nope

>>19508800
Let's be honest, it was better than the alternative.

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>>19508770
^THIS^
Trump making it to the end of his presidency without dropping dead, being assassinated, impeached, or arrested would be proof that the Illuminati don't exist (anymore).

He is literally an asshole narcissistic 1%er billionaire and he is STILL not corrupt enough for "them".

>>19508800
nice dub dubs fren
if only trump was an androidy
we could take over his mindboidy
then we would ALL get to be president
won't that be a funny youtube comment?

>>19509247
This

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>>19508693
first off the Illuminati does exist to claim they don't would show incredible ignorance. They are a real documented historical organization that was booted from numerous European nations and even written about by George Washington. Claiming they don't exist is like claiming the NY Yankees don't exist. Second what does Trump have to do with it? How is him being president disprove anything? He either is beating them for the time being or one of them as controlled opposition

>>19508702
Underrated post
Remember the date anon

he's a meme president voted in by 4chan's secret service aka the mossad

>>19508693
>"A multi-billionaire property developer being the president and appointing big business leaders as the heads of government proves the illuminati doesn't exist, right?"

>>19510247
He's not a billionaire. He's a millionaire sure, but he doesn't make nowhere near that much money.

t. person who processed his insurance payments and claims

>>19510255
In terms of cash and assets, sure. But the guy is worth billions. All about perspective, I guess.

see past the games . they had him elected for the purposes j of divide and conquer . they aren't able to rule america without q race wwar

>>19508693
what if thats what the want you to think

I would argue the opposite, that Trump is one giant, fifth dimensional distraction technique being deployed by the Illuminati.
The alternative is that the Illuminati is actually weak and powerless and unable to properly control the American election system.

He's president because they allowed him to be

I like how everyone who talks about the illuminati assumes that the illuminati thinks the way they do.
Almost like they're saying "if _I_ was illuminati, here's is what I'd do.".
That's where their thinking breaks down. By definition wouldn't illuminati be aware of things other people aren't? How could we ever understand what the illuminati think about anything?

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Nigga you are currently witnessing Trump's rebellion against the Illuminati.

Most of the military, police, FBI, and NSA are now on his side.

>>19508693
trump's daughter is their earth goddess. jared is part of the illuminati. he's the antichrist.

>>19511304
This

Likely a plant to galvanize the voter base for next election cycle to get one of their own in. Betting its Zuckerjew or Chelsea Clinton.

>>19511304
They allowed him to be President because there was such widespread support for him that rigging it for Clinton would have resulted in civil war 2.0, which the Democrats wold almost surely lose.

So they let him win the EC but lose the popular vote so that they can cry Russian collusion and get him impeached. It won't save their asses though.

>>19511877
lmao

he's a plant dude

>>19511877
>such widespread support for trump
>loses the popular vote

wow
he's literally Illuminati too you smuck.

>>19511885
He belongs to a secret society of some sort, that much is true.

Have you considered that there may be a secret society civil war going on?

>>19511910
>agrees that Illuminati decides all our Presidents
>thinks that losing the popular vote indicates lack of support for him

If the results are rigged they aren't indicative of the populace's actual opinion.

>>19508693
It doesn't matter who is in the White House. Trump isn't a revolutionary and will for the most part continue the policies of previous administrations.

>>19511915
the populace's actual opinion is that trump needs to go

>>19509247
No shit. Cancer is better than AIDS.

>>19511930
Apparently not lol

>>19511939
>implying the whole point of this thread isn't complaining about the illuminati
>implying trump isn't illuminati
>implying /x/ has unique opinions

>>19511945
>implying trump isn't illuminati
I never doubted that. There's an Illuminati civil war going on.

what do we even know about the Illuminati's true motives? Couldn't' they actual;ly be trying to look out for the good of humanity?

>>19511954
Truth is that they have multiple factions and multiple motives.

Some of them think most of humanity is irredeemable and needs to be exterminated to help them ascend to a higher dimension.

>>19511954
good of themselves is the most likely motive. A better way of phrasing your question may be "what most benefits the Illuminati?"

>>19508693
>muh drumpf is le good
>constantly throws the 666 sign in every speech
>evidence of being a 33 degree mason
He is one of them, fool.
Read:
http://watchmanscry.com

>>19508693
No it proves that the whole hierarchy of the "elites" known as Illuminists is at war with itself. Trump and Hillary are both connected with the cabal but there is a schism going on

>>19512054
Or that what ever they have planned will unfold with either candidate. The fact that he won electoral but not the popular vote is just a way to push "he's not our pres." which seeds dissent among the populous.

>>19512054
I highly doubt Trump is an illuminist. He's like an inversion of being illuminated. That man wouldn't concern himself with trying to understand it. He's like a caricature of the ignorant masses if they had won the lotto. He was summoned by the masses to cause chaos.

Being elite is not the same thing as being an illuminist. You only see if you're called to it. It can be right in front of you and you could still not see.

Only the illuminati should be leading humanity.

>>19512785
If they're that bad ass, how do we know they're not and we're just to dumb to see it?

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>>19508693
If anything it's proof that it does exist and everything is going according to plan

Or, just a wild theory here, if your that powerful a society and you see that the peons are waking up, why not give them someone so divisive, so easy to make seem like an idiot to some and a genius to others?
Think about it....what if they are all on the same side? Hilary, Trump, May, Corbyn,
That German one.......
How clever a plan is that if everyone is being played at the same time, and Trump is in on it all? To keep us from opening our eyes further? Kinda makes sense

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>>19511756
>most of them are on Trump's side

Dude when even /pol/ starts turning on him- it's too far gone.

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>>19513137
You're on the right path

>>19510068
Lluch Sanctuary, 23rd September, 3:33am UTC

>>19510255
You're fired.

>Part of the rich elite

>Not Illuminati

Do Trump supporters actually believe this?

>>19513398
Trump supporters don't know the rich elite planned with Trump for him to play the populist savior so that their plans could continue while keeping the masses in the dark. So far it has been relatively successful.

>>19511911
This

>>19508693
It proves the Illuminati cannot control free will and never will

>>19509561
Everyone who runs for President is narcissistic. Trump isn't special in that regard.
>1%er is an insult

>>19513137
>why not give them someone so divisive, so easy to make seem like an idiot to some and a genius to others?
That was always the plan. The left appeals using linguistic warfare and right uses efficiency. The two sides speak completely different languages. One language is used to control animals and the other to keep humans happy. Unless you kill all animals or humans you need to frequently alternate between the two.

>>19508693
On the contrary, it proves that they're fucking incompetent.

People want to believe in the Illuminati because the truth, that nobody controls the world and all is chaos, is actually scarier.

>>19514282
this x1000000
nothing maters. do what you have to to make yourself happy

>>19509561
Or maybe the illuminati is bound by rules and Trump has something on his side. But it's not like he can just ride in and start firing everyone.

>>19509857
cringe normalfag

>>19508693

Aliens are real, disclosure is coming one way or another.

This is were the ruling factions are mostly focused on. Trump is barely in the radar because he can be easily dealt with.

I love all the trumpeters are defending him as if he isn't "elite" or that he is some savior.
>>19513137
This guy might just be right. Two candidates that appeal to polar opposites. No matter who wins, half the people lose.

>>19508693
The Illuminati definitely exist, they're a highly documented organization. Whether or not they have their hands in everyone's business is the question.
And for your question, OP, who's to say it's not them playing the long game? Or they just really didn't eant the Clinton family to be in power again.

>>19516553
>highly documented
Sauce?

>>19516563
Literally just google Illuminati history, and nowadays their presence is somewhat of an open secret. I'm fairly aure they're less powerful nowadays with all these other organizations that sprung up un their wake.

>>19516579
I didn't make the claim. you did.
You provide the sauce.
>inb4 flat earth tier muh satanists

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>>19509857

>>19516553
The Illuminati existed at one time centuries ago. Now it is just a 2spooky4u boogeyman for people's personal problems. You shouldn't blame other people for your problems, especially if said people don't exist. Nobody is out to get you.

>>19516585
Rilly nigga? Unless it's your first time posting here, this shit is common knowledge.
http://people.virginia.edu/~sfr/enam481/groupa/illumhist.html
https://www.gaia.com/lp/content/what-is-the-illuminati/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati

Illuminati doesn't exist. If you've ever actually worked in politics you know it doesn't exist. These fuckers genuinely can not agree on anything. All elite groups are run by some of the biggest egos on the planet. The idea that they could all put everything aside and agree on even one issue is astounding.

The real secret is that the world is scary and random and no one knows anything. No one knows the future and no one knows tomorrow. No one. Hindsight makes everything seem obvious but it's all bullshit. There is only chaos. Order is a lie.

>>19516599
So there was some rationalists hundreds of years ago?
Ok...
What does that say about today? Anything?

There's no organisation running everything yet. Lots of groups are trying their hardest to become one though.

>>19516579
>saw "Illuminati" symbolism in a rapper's music video
>it's an open secret, guys!

>>19516595
>>19516603
I don't, they're a real legitimate organization. Thry're much less of a thing nowadays with the Masons, Bilderberg, Golden Dawn and all these other ones about now. They're not evil child sacrificing devil worshipers, they're a political group with their hands in some people's business.

>>19516615
There doesn't appear to be any evidence of such a thing, anon.
It's comforting to think that there's some uber-elite group of super genius wizards running the show, but all evidence suggests otherwise.

>>19516621
They're not running anything tho, it's a bunch of people helping eachother out by supporting their businesses and preferred candidates and shit.

>>19516601
I say this as a Freemason also. Was talking to my grandfather the other day who's been a member for decades and he said that the Freemasons as an institution today are harmless. It's a brotherhood so they look after their own, but even then it's not as if people in it just go around telling everyone their a member. My dad's been a member for around 8 years now and he said it's only come in useful once and that's when someone in senior management found out he was a member and gave him support in a promotion he was already applying for and likely to get.

The power is non-existent outside of whatever power the individual member has, and they wield that with or without Freemason membership. There's no agenda anymore.

They did absolutely used to run shit back in the day though. I'm talking 2017, and in 2017 there's nothing. They've already achieved their aims decades ago.

>>19508693
Nah, just that they miscalculated. But trust me, they never lose.

>>19516628
>they're not running anything
Then why call them "the illuminati"?

>>19516628
>They're not running anything tho

So this super secret organization of which there is no evidence of even existing isn't much of a threat to you then.

Like any hard truth, all of us must eventually accept that nobody is running the show and that any secret society which actually exists, such as the Masons, doesn't actually impact your life.

>>19516636
Because they're the Illuminati doesn't mean they run EVERYTHING. They might just run or have people with their hands in businesses like Comcast or Viacom and such. It's like how it's fairly easy to become a Mason, but far more exclusive and on a higher level.

>>19516692
>more exclusive and on a higher level
Howso?

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>>19508693
>the illuminati don't exist

>>19508693
He's proof that they do. Both sides are from the same bush. Funny enough that's why they elected bush, they needed someone dumb to blame for all the shit done during his presidency and blaming it on his supposed incompetence was damage control. Same with Trump. politics is a game of volleyball where the goal is for both sides to never drop the ball.

>>19509247
>directly electing the rich instead of their paid shills
>"""better"""

He has strong ties to Russian central bankers. Anyone who thinks he's anti-establishment is dumb as shit. Same as people who were won over by Obama's charisma and promises of change, while continuing the Bush legacy practically unhindered. Persona and lofty speeches are winning over the public since overt career politicians became suspect, but the outcome is the same.

Also, Trump is a peso just like the Clintons and the British royals. Look at the comments during his Miss Teen America pageants. Other allegations have also been made. The guy is a fucking creep.

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>>19518058
>tfw the illumination hits

>>19518123
*pedo not peso, lol

>>19508693
You kidding? I would almost say the opposite.

If they exist then our political system is a gameshow basically. The more people buy into the idea that they have power and the more passionate they are about politics then the more they waste their efforts on the gameshow rather than seeing what's really going on.

Younger generations are usually the most rebellious and likely to see past the curtain right? So what did they do, they let Trump run wild and he got tons of young people hooked on politics for life.

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>>19511756
>Mother Jones

>>19516601
This is the only correct post in this thread. Humans don't like to know it but the truth is no one runs this world. It's just disarray.

>>19511304
>>19511756
>>19511911
>>19512054
idiots

>>19516615
>>19516628
>>19516692

I think you don't have a single idea on what you're talking about